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Just a barnstar thingy

		The Special Barnstar
		Your much appreciated contributions of vast importance and boldness have aided Wikipedia in providing free, high-quality knowledge and facts to any person from anywhere in the world, ~~save for China, Myanmar, N. Korea and Turkmenistan and some other places~~ not to mention your personal rules of Wikipedian etiquette which is cool and all, but I have never seen a userpage in which I completely agree with every single quote (and I mean all of them!). You (and your userpage) are purely awesomesauce! Anonymous 7481 (talk) 05:11, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

WikiCup 2021 May newsletter

The second round of the 2021 WikiCup has now finished; it was a high-scoring round and contestants needed 61 points to advance to Round 3. There were some impressive efforts in the round, with the top eight contestants all scoring more than 400 points. A large number of the points came from the 12 featured articles and the 110 good articles achieved in total by contestants, as well as the 216 good article reviews they performed; the GAN backlog drive and the stay-at-home imperative during the COVID-19 pandemic may have been partially responsible for these impressive figures.

Our top scorers in Round 2 were:

The Rambling Man, with 2963 points from three featured articles, 20 featured article reviews, 37 good articles, 73 good article reviews, as well as 22 DYKs.
Epicgenius, with 1718 points from one featured article, 29 good articles, 16 DYKs and plenty of bonus points.
Bloom6132, with 990 points from 13 DYKs and 64 "In the news" items, mostly recent deaths.
Hog Farm, with 834 points from two featured articles, five good articles, 14 featured article reviews and 15 good article reviews.
Gog the Mild, with 524 points from two featured articles and four featured article reviews.
Lee Vilenski, with 501 points from one featured article, three good articles, six featured article reviews and 25 good article reviews.
Sammi Brie, with 485 points from four good articles, eight good article reviews and 27 DYKs, on US radio and television stations.
Ktin, with 436 points from four good articles, seven DYKs and 11 "In the news" items.

Please remember that DYKs cannot be claimed until they have appeared on the main page. As we enter the third round, any content promoted after the end of Round 2 but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed now, and anything you forgot to claim in Round 2 cannot! Remember too, that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (except for at the end of each round, when you must claim them before the cut-off date/time). When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Judges: Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:27, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Hall v. Decuir

Just stubbed this—had been on my to-do list since your work on Justice and Jurisprudence. Will probably be building it out over the next while, but thought I'd mention it in case you were interested. Hope you're well; I'm back to active editing at least for a bit, after a couple months where life got in the way. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 03:24, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

AleatoryPonderings, I'm absolutely interested in helping out on that one! Looks like an important article. Let me know what I can help with, happy to work on expanding it but don't want to step on your toes, as it were. I've created Seth Newhouse, but my draft on the 1885 Electoral Franchise Act is lacking, well, everything, if you are interested. Regardless, good to see you around. Do you have access to The Journey to Separate but Equal: Madame Decuir's Quest for Racial Justice in the Reconstruction Era? Seems to have just been published last month (!), so that's exciting. I have a lot of books that mention the case, on a search. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:34, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Eddie891, Feel free to add as much or as little as you like—would not be stepping on my toes in the slightest. The 1885 statute looks like a fun research project too; I'll have a look at the sources you found and might pull something together in draftspace, or another stub, that we can work on whenever convenient. I don't think I have access to that book but yes, it's a crazy coincidence that it just came out! Seems like a lot of the research on the case has been within the past few years or so, for some reason. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 16:40, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

The funny things one finds looking in old online books: right after the bill was passed at 1:00 in the morning on 4 July 1885, Richard John Cartwright said "It is the 4th of July, a fitting day to disfranchise your countrymen." (Draft:Electoral Franchise Act, 1885 is now reasonably put together.) AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:24, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

AleatoryPonderings, very nice work-- sorry I'm less than super active atm, finals are hitting me hard. I'll try to take a look over both articles this weekend, but unfortunately no promises. I will definitely be free to work on them by mid-May. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Eddie891, No worries whatsoever. Unlike finals, here there is of course WP:NODEADLINE. I just finished my own and that's why I suddenly have time to dig up 19th-century legislative minutiae … Best of luck! AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 00:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mississippi–1955

On 5 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mississippi–1955, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Langston Hughes allowed his poem "Mississippi–1955", written in response to Emmett Till's lynching, to be republished in all newspapers that wanted to? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mississippi—1955. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mississippi–1955), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

The Sweet Flypaper of Life

Thank you for including a redlink to The Sweet Flypaper of Life in your edit from a month ago at Mississippi-1955. I was inspired to turn it blue! I welcome your input if you would like to help at the new article (it's my first) and leave you with my gratitude if you decline. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 05:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Firefangledfeathers, great work! I've added some content. I think it would be a good WP:DYK nomination, too. Nicely done. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Heads up

Someone (not me) has brought one of your AfD closes to deletion review: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Gower (5th nomination) is at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 May 5. Cheers—S Marshall T/C 16:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

S Marshall, thanks for letting me know, I'll keep an eye on it. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

Following an RfC, consensus was found that third party appeals are allowed but discouraged.
The 2021 Desysop Policy RfC was closed with no consensus. Consensus was found in a previous RfC for a community based desysop procedure, though the procedure proposed in the 2021 RfC did not gain consensus.

Technical news

The user group oversight will be renamed to suppress. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.

Arbitration

The community consultation on the Arbitration Committee discretionary sanctions procedure was closed, and an initial draft based on feedback from the now closed consultation is expected to be released in early June to early July for community review.

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DYK for Beverley Manley

On 8 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Beverley Manley, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Beverley Manley was a prominent activist for women's rights in Jamaica while her husband was prime minister? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Beverley Anderson-Manley. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Beverley Manley), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for László Bogdán

On 13 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article László Bogdán, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during his fourteen years as mayor, László Bogdán transformed the town of Cserdi in what was known as the "Cserdi miracle"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/László Bogdán. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, László Bogdán), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Cserdi

On 13 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cserdi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during his fourteen years as mayor, László Bogdán transformed the town of Cserdi in what was known as the "Cserdi miracle"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/László Bogdán. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cserdi), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gigantic prime

A pure technicality - nothing in mainspace turns on this - but why did you close this AfD as a redirect, not a merge? There were more merge opinions than redirect opinions, and no delete opinions after Trovatore first wondered about possible other homes for this material. — Charles Stewart (talk) 14:47, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Numerically, delete and redirect !votes (functionally equivalent) had the most support (and to my eyes the best thought out rationales). The users who commented in favor of deletion before are competent users who probably thought through their comment before posting it-- AGF leads me to assume the Delete !voter's considered ATD's before !voting. Indeed, at least David was later pinged by yourself, and is fully capable of changing his vote. The later two users commenting for redirection specifically eludicated why they felt a redirect more beneficial than a merge a mention is all they deserve and never had widespread adoption within mathematics. Two of the three 'merge' !votes lacked comparable rationales. Hopefully that helps explain somewhat. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:31, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, that is defensible reasoning. I've listed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Titanic prime. — Charles Stewart (talk) 05:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. I see no problems with the structure and the prose is fine, With the many dozens of edits made in the past month it looks like you've addressed this.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 18:52, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Twofingered Typist, thank you very much for your ce! Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:19, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 3

Discontent Content Issue #3

Welcome, subscribers, to the third Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

Articles in this category are those that need to be brought up to a minimum quality standard. Some will be stubs; others will be longer articles that nonetheless have significant concerns putting them far below B- or C-class adequacy.

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Gambling in Nevada: An unusual move -- a redirect? But if you look at the history, you'll see why. This sweeping and expansive topic about the home of Reno and Las Vegas was recently converted to a redirect due to its almost complete lack of useful content. Nonetheless, this subject is bursting with potential and can have a full article written about it.
SpongeBob SquarePants: Original Theme Highlights: This recent AfD survivor was the first soundtrack written for the popular series. More unorthodox, for a children's animation album, it features songs by Pantera and Ween and was given a vinyl re-release in 2016 for the...ironic market? Certainly some market. There's a fair amount of coverage here to write a solid article on.
Death by misadventure: A surprisingly major topic to be a one-paragraph stub, this is a legal and colloquial term both. The article is currently sourced in whole to a single page in a single book!

Category 2

Articles in this category, while in better current shape than Category 1, are still missing something. They have the potential to be truly high-quality content, and may have been at one point. With work, they can be brought up to dizzying heights.

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

Rope (film): Hitchcock's classic attempt to shoot an entire film in a single shot, Rope is both a significant note in cinematic history and, in recent years, conceptualized as an important piece of Hays Code-era gay cinema. It's a good watch, and the article should be just as solid. Currently it's a C-class with some unsourced content and an overreliance on block quotes.
Rachel Pollack: One of the major occult writers of the 20th and 21st centuries (a book of hers is prominently involved in my quixotic "bring the Major Arcana to FT" plan), not to mention a significant fiction and comics writer collaborating with names such as Neil Gaiman and Grant Morrison, Pollack's article has quite a bit of room for improvement to quality-assessed levels. Though her article's lead is short and the work as a whole underreferenced, plenty of opportunities exist to improve it.
Narrative paradigm: Despite this article's High or Top importance across multiple wikiprojects, it's in a sorry state. Perhaps unsurprisingly, it was subjected to a WikiEd course some time back. Significant potential lies within the idea that all human communication is narrative; the article must be accordingly strong.

Category 3

Articles in this category have been assessed through a content review process in the past, but may require work to be brought up to current GA/FA standard. Editors can help bring them to a level where the star or plus near their names can once again shine.

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Jaime King: This GA on a famous model of the 1990s has been recommended for GAR. Unreferenced sections and low-quality references are a problem for this BLP.
Dartmouth College: This FA is at FARC and on the brink of delisting, but the issues mentioned -- accessibility, WP:LEADCITE compliance, and overreliance on primary sources -- are far from insurmountable, and an editor could certainly polish off this star.
Tamil language: Another FARC, this is the native language of 75 million people (including my own stepmother) and the language of one of the world's great classical traditions. It's afflicted by a lack of sourcing and particularly issues with inline citations.

Letter from the Editor

This issue's subscriber suggestion, again from BOZ, is:

Dice: This former GA was delisted in 2009. It's a big topic to a lot of different subjects, and deserves a top-quality article.

This is ridiculously late, and I apologise -- I've been writing articles :) I've also, excitingly, landed a couple 'real publishing' writing gigs, which I'll be plenty excited to talk about when they're published. Due to the current increased amount of writing I have to do on a regular basis both on- and off-wiki, I'm planning to drop this down to monthly so I can spread out my responsibilities a bit.
Vaticidalprophet 09:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

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Positioning theory

Hello Eddie891, I hope everything has been going well at your end. I came here because I needed your advice. There is an image on positioning theory, which was uploaded by the editor who started the article (Ping: Itsjessjj). It is captioned as "Positioning triangle adapted from Van Langenhove & Harré (1999a p.18)", and licensed under CC Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0). My understanding of copyright law is limited but would one not require the permission of Van Langenhove and/or Harré in order to upload this material on Wikipedia? Or is it okay to upload a specific excerpt from a paper for illustrative purposes (but this would require a different license)? I would appreciate your input on this. — The Most Comfortable Chair 08:56, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Although, maybe I am interpreting the meaning of "adapted" too conservatively here? My first impression was that the image could be a screenshot of the paper, but on second thoughts, it just might be that the editor drew it themself. — The Most Comfortable Chair 13:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

The Most Comfortable Chair All is well over here-- winter is finally over, and I've found some really rewarding articles to work on. My initial understanding was be that the image is "adapted" in the sense that it's Itsjessjj's own work based on the content of the paper-- as you note in your second comment. If this is the case, I think it would be fine given it attributes the source. If it is a screenshot it would be copyrighted and could not be uploaded under CC BY SA 4.0 without the authors themselves releasing it. It's unfortunately hard to tell without the source at hand. Nikkimaria may be able to advise and correct if I've given you completely wrong information :P (image copyright isn't my strongest suit, either). Great to hear from you and take care, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:30, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I read Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln recently, and it was a great read. I learned a lot. Thank you for your response, it has been reassuring. My concern stemmed from the image's summary, which attributed the work to Van Langenhove & Harré, dated 1999 (summary of the other image in the article for comparison). That could have been a misunderstanding on Itsjessjj's part, so I will leave them a message. Thank you again, and have a nice day! — The Most Comfortable Chair 16:40, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

The Most Comfortable Chair Yeah, it's hard to tell whether the image is an adaption or copvio without access to the source. The summary would suggest it's taken directly from it, but the title suggest it's an adaption. I'm glad you enjoyed WW and AL-- I'm slowly working it up towards FA, though I've been informed by an editor I greatly respect it needs significant work. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:19, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

To be honest even if the triangle was in fact a screenshot of the source, I would be inclined to say it's below the threshold of originality. I wouldn't anticipate it being a copyright concern either way. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:16, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

All the best with the FA preparations; I am working on William B. Jordan for the same. Thank you for clarifying that, Nikkimaria. — The Most Comfortable Chair 04:56, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021

Your Military History Newsletter

Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results
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DYK for Fish kick

On 26 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fish kick, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although some sources have cited the fish kick as potentially the fastest way for humans to swim, it has not been widely used in competitive swimming? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fish kick. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fish kick), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pueblo speech

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Pueblo speech you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tkbrett -- Tkbrett (talk) 01:40, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Eric Carle

On 28 May 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Eric Carle, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Step hen 02:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Pueblo speech

The article Pueblo speech you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Pueblo speech for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tkbrett -- Tkbrett (talk) 01:41, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

May thanks

Thank you for improving articles in May! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

See my talk today, - it's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true, and that the picture is shown on the Main page on a meaningful day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:18, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 4

Discontent Content Issue #4

Welcome, subscribers, to the fourth Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

Articles in this category are those that need to be brought up to a minimum quality standard. Some will be stubs; others will be longer articles that nonetheless have significant concerns putting them far below B- or C-class adequacy.

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Lineage (anthropology): A shocking subject to be a sourceless stub, this Vital 4 obviously has so much more to write about than its three sentences. In this state, even a basic improvement would do a ton.
Police memorabilia collecting: Survived AfD not long ago, with plenty of sources given in the discussion to use in the article. "Further reading" may in particular be of use.
Koror City: Palau may be a small island nation, but having its largest city by far be a stub is unacceptable. (We've managed to write much more about it over at Wikivoyage, where it's guide-class and about to make a Main Page appearance.) Vital 5 with a healthy couple hundred pageviews a day, the widespread use of English in its native land makes it a more accessible topic than editors afraid of working in countries they're unfamiliar with might worry.

Category 2

Articles in this category, while in better current shape than Category 1, are still missing something. They have the potential to be truly high-quality content, and may have been at one point. With work, they can be brought up to dizzying heights.

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

List of premature obituaries: A former FL, an eccentric and popular topic, and a refreshing change from the sports statistics and "list of awards received by X" that populate FLC. This list was demoted in 2009 for sourcing concerns, which even at the time were mentioned as potentially fixable.
War: Let's just jump straight into the Overtopics, shall we? This Vital 2 really shows what "Top-importance to the whole encyclopedia" means. Currently B-class -- more B- in my estimate, maybe -- it stands out that non-editor readers on the talk page have qualms with the scope, in particular omissions they expected to find.
The Picture of Dorian Gray: Once GA, now C. ~~Still relatable.~~ This seminal work of literature can certainly be returned to where it was.

Category 3

Articles in this category have been assessed through a content review process in the past, but may require work to be brought up to current GA/FA standard. Editors can help bring them to a level where the star or plus near their names can once again shine.

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Byzantine Empire: From the metapedian perspective, this is perhaps our most important FA -- the oldest, promoted in 2001 (older than some of this newsletter's subscribers!), to retain FA status unbroken to the present day. Speaking exopedianly, it's still decidedly vital, with nearly three million page views in the last year. FAR was suggested late last year; it hasn't been brought to the chopping block yet, but an article this important both inside and outside of the project deserves to remain in top shape.
Underoath: This GA is recommended for GAR, with complaints about long-unaddressed maintenance tags and sections in dire need of updates. The article gets hundreds of views a day and is translated across plenty of projects.
Acute myeloid leukemia: Medical articles aren't scary! Really! They're not! If I can work on them, so can you! That aside, this FA was given a FAR notice in January. There are sourcing concerns, conveniently assisted by sources left on the talk page. Non-editor readers on the talk have raised concerns about inaccurate prognostic statements.

Letter from the Editor

This issue's reader suggestion is brought to you by Sennecaster:

Margery Wolf: Perhaps the fastest GA delist known to the project, this article was delisted two days after promotion upon discovery of foundational copyvio. Though it was reduced to just four short paragraphs, the sourcing obviously exists to create a high-quality article.

Yes, I know I said I was going to switch to monthly. Let's just go "Vat doesn't really Get Time" and run with it.

The Core Contest is on its last day of entries, and I've picked articles here with an eye to that. It's the first time it's running since 2017, and I for one am looking forward to overhauling Prehistoric religion. If you feel inspired by anything here, get in there quick!
Vaticidalprophet 17:06, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Museum of French Art

On 31 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Museum of French Art, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Museum of French Art once exhibited Napoleon's penis? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Museum of French Art. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Museum of French Art), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—valereee (talk) 12:03, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Results of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chuggaaconroy

TL;DR: I would like to restore the YouTuber Chuggaaconroy’s Wikipedia page as I have found several new sources that hopefully should be sufficient enough to establish his notability, and I would like to ask if the original article can be draftified/userfied for me to edit it.

Hello Eddie891, I'm PantheonRadiance. I'm messaging you today to discuss the circumstances surrounding the Articles for Deletion on Emile Rosales-Birou (Chuggaaconroy), a popular Let's Player and internet personality. Due to school obligations, I never got the chance to participate in this discussion, and I wish to discuss this with you now. Since the Deletion Review stated that I should discuss with the closer first, I have three points about the AfD I wanted to talk to you about.

1: One of the participants voted Keep, citing an article from the New York Times which mentions him. However, another user argued that the article didn't count because it was a trivial mention. From what I understand about a trivial mention, this is erroneous; as opposed to a basic one-sentence mention, there were four paragraphs dedicated to talking about Chuggaaconroy, from his start on YouTube as a kid, to the content he produces along with his subscriber and view count, his contact with YouTube itself and his videos containing occasionally rough language, and how his videos were discovered through the site's recommendations. From Wikipedia's policies the subject doesn't have to be the main topic of the article so long as the coverage of it is reasonably in-depth. The Sydney Morning Herald also published the same article too.

2: In addition to the rebuttal, two other participants stated that they couldn't find any reliable and significant sources on Chuggaaconroy, so I spent the past month looking for various other sources. Along with NY Times, he has also been featured on Wired, The Atlantic, the Irish Times, Independent.co.uk and even Nasdaq - all of them reliable outlets. For Wired, there were three articles which mention Chuggaaconroy - one which significantly goes in detail on his YouTube career along with some details on his personal life, one mentioning his revenue hit and content ID claims, and one from 2010 on his YouTube partnership with The Game Station/Polaris. The first article especially qualifies as in-depth coverage, and coupled with the two smaller mentions, these should contribute to his notability. Here are the rest of the articles.

The Atlantic mentions him as an example of a Let’s Player who has made a living off of his YouTube videos, citing his subscriber count as of March 2014, him living in Atlanta, Georgia and the approximate salary he makes from his videos.
The Irish Times article which talks about family-friendly gaming channels cites Chuggaaconroy as an example of one whose content is oriented for younger audiences not into Minecraft, the games he plays and his sub/view count.
An article from Independent mentioned two videos from his Super Luigi Galaxy series (Episode 29 and 30 [Part ⅓]) as one of the most-viewed of the week in October 2010, placing it at 8 and 9. There was also another one which listed one on his videos again, showing how his videos have received coverage from the outlet. These two articles should at the very least partially demonstrate his notability as a popular gaming YouTuber.
Also, this 2013 Nasdaq article mentions his view/subscriber count, his content related to Nintendo-based Let’s Plays, and a picture of a tweet from one of his fans, showing him as an example of a Let’s Player affected by Nintendo’s (old) content ID policy.

Admittedly the Atlantic, Irish Times, Independent and Nasdaq sources are a bit scant, but when combined with the NY Times and Wired articles they should establish him as a notable YouTuber. If not, then…

3: Out of curiosity I also searched his YouTube channel name on Google Scholar and managed to find a few scholarly articles which go into detail about the Let’s Plays he produces along with his influence.

This scholarly article comes from the University of Brasilia and goes into great detail on his video and commentary style. Specifically it states that Chuggaaconroy makes LPs of games at least two years after release mainly of Nintendo games, how he typically goes into research and production on each game he makes a video series on, and how he takes the time to show 100% of the game content available (all bosses, items, quests, Easter eggs and so on). It also lists his subscriber count as of 2017 (1.1 million) in comparison to other Let’s Play channels.
The second article can be used to create a section for "The Runaway Guys," Chuggaaconroy’s collaborative YouTube channel with fellow gaming personalities Jonathan "ProtonJonSA" Wheeler and Timothy "NintendoCapriSun" Bishop. This article from the Lapland University of Applied Sciences specifically talks about the Thrown Controllers game show which the group holds in conventions like MomoCon, Pax East and Magfest. Admittedly, these two articles are written in Portugese and Finnish respectively, but according to Wikipedia sources do not have to be in English as long as they’re reliable.
The third one “Beyond the Classroom Walls” is admittedly a trivial mention, but it does mention him as one of the most notable Let’s Players alongside mainstream personalities Markiplier and PewDiePie, showing that he does belong in that category of influential Let’s Play channels. Perhaps if his article got restored, this can also be used as a source for the Wikipedia article for Let’s Plays - in which he should be included. There was also a fourth scholarly article which merely cites the first episode of his Majora’s Mask series but other than citing it as an example of a game he played, there isn’t too much.

4: And finally, here are a few miscellaneous sources from Reporter, Sequart, Mashable (situationally reliable), STLMag ("There was this YouTuber I found, chuggaaconroy…"), and Examiner.net (not ".com"). Some of these sources might not be the most recent, but I think WP:NTEMP should apply here. In total, I collected about 30 good sources which I saved and archived, but I think you've seen enough.

So with these sources, I would like to ask if there is any way the article could be restored, or at least draftified/userfied, so that I may rewrite it using both the old sources in the original article and these aforementioned ones previously unused (and clean up the article in general). I tried the absolute best I could to find as many reliable sources as possible, and I really hope these would be enough to prove his article deserves to be restored. If not, then I understand; thanks in advance, and sorry for making you read so much, I'm still kind of new to this lol PantheonRadiance (talk) 20:34, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

PantheonRadiance, I've restored the article to Draft:Chuggaaconroy. I'd suggest adding the sources you found and going through the AFC process... This is not an endorsement of notability. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:19, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it. PantheonRadiance (talk) 04:53, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

why not deleted ?

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Rahul_Easwar

The article needs to go through WP:Afd rather than being prodded because it has already been nominated for deletion before. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:47, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 21

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past four months (February through May 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 21st issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Scripts Submit your new/improved script here

New scripts

Alexander Davronov's HistoryHelper helps to copy diff links from the history display of a page
Aseleste's Purger makes it easier to purge or null edit a page
Awesome Aasim:
- CatMan adds a category manager to simplify interactions for adding and removing the categories of a page
- redirectcreator allows for easy creation of multiple redirects
Bop34's EasyDesc adds a link to the top navigation bar which allows you to add a short description without opening the edit menu
BrandonXLF's NullEdit adds a portlet link to perform a null edit on a page
Chlod:
- FoldArchives collapses archived talk page threads in order to reduce screen space
- GoToTitle converts the page title into an input field for navigating to other pages
- UserHighlighter adds highlighting to links to the userpages, talk pages, and contributions of administrators and other user groups as well as tooltips to indicate which groups a user is in
GhostInTheMachine:
- NoEditSummary adds a warning if an edit will be saved without an edit summary
- SortWhatLinksHere sorts the links shows on Special:WhatLinksHere
- WatchlistTidy moves the "new updates found" timestamp block from the bottom of the filter block to the top of the filter area on the watchlist
GorillaWarfare's curlies simplifies converting curly quotes to straight quotes while in the source editing mode
Nardog:
- AutoSectionLink corrects the /* section link */ every time you hit "Show changes"
- AutoTestcases autofills "Preview page with this template/module" with the most relevant /testcases page that exists
- SortCentralAuthByEditCount sorts the list of local accounts on CentralAuth by edit count
Novem Linguae:
- CiteHighlighter highlights 1800 sources green, yellow, or red depending on reliability.
- NPPLinks adds WP:BEFORE Google search links, copyvio check, duplicate article check, and other links to the left menu.
Ritenerek's goce_nav adds a link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors to the navigation menu
Suffusion of Yellow:
- filterDiff: Adds a "Show changes" button to the filter editor.
- filterNotes: Parses filter notes as wikitext (so links are clickable), and signs and dates new comments for you.
- filterTest: Adds a "Test changes" button. Opens Special:AbuseFilter/test with what's currently in the edit form, not with what's saved in the database, so you don't have to copy-paste your changes.
Terasail's COI Request Tool allows users to reply to, close or remove conflict of interest edit requests

Updated scripts

Twinkle has a number of improvements, including that most watchlist defaults now make use of the new temporary watchlist feature. Other changes include rollbacks treating consecutive IPv6 editors in the same /64 range as the same user, adding a preview for shared IP tagging, a preference for watching users after CSD notification, and for sysops, the ability to block the /64 and link to a WP:RfPP request, and new copyright blocks default to indefinite.
Wikipedia:Shortdesc helper now v3.4.17, changes include minor fixes and preventing edits that don't change the description.
BrandonXLF's CitationStyleMarker now recognizes WP:CSLSA and WP:CSVAN styles, in addition to WP:CS1 and WP:CS2
Joeytje50's JWB now version 4.1.0, includes the ability to generate page lists from the search tool, major updates to the handling of regular expressions, the storing of user settings, the addition of upload protection, and an option to skip pages that belong to a specific category, among other changes. See User:Joeytje50/JWB/Changelog for a full list of recent changes.
User:SD0001/deleted-metadata-link.js – updated to include a link to snippet of deleted content, instead of just metadata.

Miscellaneous

Wikipedia:User scripts/List has been revamped to make it easier to find scripts suited for your needs. If you know of a cool script that is missing on the list, or a script on the list that is no longer working, please edit the list or let us know on the talk page.

Pending requests

A request for a script to help admins posting "recent death" items to Template:In the news
A request for a script to warn users about syntax and template errors
...and many more, all available at Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests

My apologies for this long-overdue issue, and if I missed any scripts.
Hopefully going forward we can go back to monthly releases - any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 13:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Hall v. Decuir

On 3 June 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hall v. Decuir, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in Hall v. Decuir, the Supreme Court of the United States "all but endorsed segregation"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hall v. Decuir. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hall v. Decuir), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Babel Proclamation

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Babel Proclamation you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tkbrett -- Tkbrett (talk) 20:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project

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		On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the WikiChevrons for participating in 15 reviews between January and March 2021. Peacemaker67 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 23:08, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for William Henry Ellis (businessman)

On 6 June 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William Henry Ellis (businessman), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that William Henry Ellis spearheaded a plan to colonize Black Americans in Mexico in the late 19th century? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Henry Ellis (businessman). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, William Henry Ellis (businessman)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Babel Proclamation

The article Babel Proclamation you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Babel Proclamation for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tkbrett -- Tkbrett (talk) 02:01, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021).

Administrator changes

Ashleyyoursmile • Less Unless

Husond • MattWade • MJCdetroit • Carioca • Vague Rant • Kingboyk • Thunderboltz • Gwen Gale • AniMate • SlimVirgin (deceased)

Guideline and policy news

Consensus was reached to deprecate Wikipedia:Editor assistance.
Following a Request for Comment the Book namespace was deprecated.

Technical news

Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.

Arbitration

After a Clarification request, the Arbitration Committee modified Remedy 5 of the Antisemitism in Poland case. This means sourcing expectations are a discretionary sanction instead of being present on all articles. It also details using the talk page or the Reliable Sources Noticeboard to discuss disputed sources.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:45, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Asfaw Yemiru

On 12 June 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Asfaw Yemiru, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Asfaw Yemiru's school educated over 120,000 Ethiopian students? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Asfaw Yemiru. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Asfaw Yemiru), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Ann Russell Miller

On 14 June 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ann Russell Miller, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. TJMSmith (talk) 19:11, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Paani Project

Hi Eddie, I noticed you closed this as delete without explanation, yet there was a unanimous chorus to keep the article. Don't you think the deletion at least deserves an explanation? The result seems rather far from "delete". Thanks, Brycehughes (talk) 14:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it was a misclick. I've amended accordingly. Sincere apologies and thanks for all you do. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The Sweet Flypaper of Life

On 18 June 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Sweet Flypaper of Life, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Roy DeCarava's photos of Black Harlem life later included in The Sweet Flypaper of Life were rejected by at least two major publishers before Langston Hughes wrote the book's accompanying text? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Sweet Flypaper of Life. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Sweet Flypaper of Life), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—valereee (talk) 00:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Have a very happy birthday on your special day!

Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:48, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 5

Discontent Content Issue #5

Welcome, subscribers, to the fifth Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

Articles in this category are those that need to be brought up to a minimum quality standard. Some will be stubs; others will be longer articles that nonetheless have significant concerns putting them far below B- or C-class adequacy.

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Isolar – 1976 Tour: A substantial musical event for one of the most influential albums of its era, but with a rather spindly, table-focused article (I also note no one seems to have given post-inflation numbers for any of the figures).
Occultism (Islam): "Major topic that's a literal stub because it's about something outside the comfort zone of the average editor" of the day. Esotericism in one of the world's major exoteric religions is, of course, something which can be written about extensively.
G & G v Wikimedia Foundation Inc: Going meta for a moment...This is an interesting case, and it's a shame we discuss it only as a paragraph. It would be fascinating to read further on this topic.

Category 2

Articles in this category, while in better current shape than Category 1, are still missing something. They have the potential to be truly high-quality content, and may have been at one point. With work, they can be brought up to dizzying heights.

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

Misophonia: A concept, symptom, or disorder -- no one's quite yet drawn the borderlands -- where people are unusually upset at noises such as chewing sounds. The idea may sound odd, but it does distress people with it and those around them. The subject is very popular, with Half Million Award-tier page views, but the readers are served by a rather weak article.
Sparks (band): This eccentric, creative band was a GA long ago, but delisted in 2010. Though undersourced, the article certainly has potential to return to its old status.
Han Xin: One of the great military leaders of ancient China is graced by a massively undersourced article. Several sections have none at all.

Category 3

Articles in this category have been assessed through a content review process in the past, but may require work to be brought up to current GA/FA standard. Editors can help bring them to a level where the star or plus near their names can once again shine.

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Wind: This FA is on a huge, important topic, but its star needs some polishing. FAR notice has been given for significant uncited passages. To quote the talk page, the article has good bones, and it can certainly be restored to modern FA status if anyone is able to work on it.
Jeopardy!: The article for perhaps one of the most famous game shows of all time is at GAR for citation issues. Most of the issues brought up can be fixed quite easily, such as locating page numbers.
French fries: Tasty, but needs more sauce. The GAR discusses unsourced sections and unreliable sourcing; I also notice some pretty blatant prose issues and a spindly lead.

Letter from the Editor

This issue's reader suggestion from Sennecaster:

Maasai people: The Vital 4 article for this major East African ethnic group was recently significantly reduced due to copyvio. It needs urgent work to restore cored-out content, but the references are still available in the article to simplify the process.

One topic I've been broadly thinking about lately is the concept of GA sweeps. There hasn't been one in well over a decade; discussion of a new one is traditionally stymied by the sheer number of GAs that would need sweeping, considering there are over ten times as many as there were at the last sweep. Nonetheless, there's no dispute that many GAs don't really count as 99.5th percentile articles, or even decent-quality articles (whether one's own personal reading of WIAGA is closer to the former or the latter, and how different those things are, is an exercise for the reader).

I've been brainstorming ideas, and I've been wondering if we can tackle the problem with limited-scope sweeps. One idea would be sweeping popular or vital articles -- those that get enough views to make up a significant proportion of the "GA experience" to readers. Another would be focusing on shorter GAs, which might trend towards a less in-depth treatment of the topic than could really justify the rating. There may very well be a path here to maintaining GA standards, and either of those would have the benefit that they might be more likely to encourage people to work on rather than simply delist articles -- popular topics with lots of interested parties willing to help, or smaller topics that don't seem like too big a challenge to pick up.
Vaticidalprophet 04:16, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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Followup

FYI, Andrew Guenther closed no consensus. --- Possibly ☎ 04:42, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

thanks for the update. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:35, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Final Call for Candidates for AffCom - June 2021

This is an update from the Wikimedia Affiliations Committee. Translations are available.

This is a final Call for Candidates for the June 2021 Affiliations Committee election.

If you are interested in running, please post your application and follow all four steps on the nomination page by 30 June 2021 23:59 hours UTC.

If you know somebody you think may be interested, please share this with them and encourage them to consider it. If you have any questions about this process or the requirements, please email affcom@wikimedia.org before the application deadline or reach out to any of the current members.

On behalf of the AffCom elections committee,

--- FULBERT (talk) 14:37, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXII, June 2021

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Speedy deletion nomination of Francisco Mujica (disambiguation)

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A tag has been placed on Francisco Mujica (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either

disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
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June thanks

Thank you for improving articles in June, with some impressions of places, flowers and music for you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

added: missing SlimVirgin, and RMF festival opening --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

GAN Backlog Drive - July 2021

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DYK for Wanamaker expeditions

On 2 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wanamaker expeditions, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the third Wanamaker expedition, led by Joseph K. Dixon, travelled at least 20,000 miles (32,000 km) and visited 89 Native American tribes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wanamaker expeditions. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Wanamaker expeditions), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph K. Dixon

On 2 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joseph K. Dixon, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the third Wanamaker expedition, led by Joseph K. Dixon, travelled at least 20,000 miles (32,000 km) and visited 89 Native American tribes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wanamaker expeditions. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Joseph K. Dixon), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

WikiCup 2021 July newsletter

The third round of the 2021 WikiCup has now come to an end. Each of the sixteen contestants who made it into the fourth round had at least 294 points, and our top six scorers all had over 600 points. They were:

The Rambling Man, with 1825 points from 3 featured articles, 44 featured article reviews, 14 good articles, 30 good article reviews and 10 DYKs. In addition, he completed a 34-article good topic on the EFL Championship play-offs.
Epicgenius, a New York specialist, with 1083 points from 2 featured article reviews, 18 good articles, 30 DYKs and plenty of bonus points.
Bloom6132, with 869 points from 11 DYKs, all with bonus points, and 54 "In the news" items, mostly covering people who had recently died.
Gog the Mild, with 817 points from 3 featured articles on historic battles in Europe, 5 featured article reviews and 3 good articles.
Hog Farm, with 659 points from 2 featured articles and 2 good articles on American Civil War battles, 18 featured article reviews, 2 good articles, 6 good article reviews and 4 DYKs.
BennyOnTheLoose, a snooker specialist and new to the Cup, with 647 points from a featured article, 2 featured article reviews, 6 good articles, 6 good article reviews and 3 DYKs.

In round three, contestants achieved 19 featured articles, 7 featured lists, 106 featured article reviews, 72 good articles, 1 good topic, 62 good article reviews, 165 DYKs and 96 ITN items. We enter the fourth round with scores reset to zero; any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (one contestant in round 3 lost out because of this). When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

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Your GA nomination of The Hill We Climb

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Hill We Climb you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of BennyOnTheLoose -- BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project

		Military history reviewers' award
		On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the The Milhist reviewing award (2 stripes) for participating in 6 reviews between April and June 2021. Peacemaker67 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 00:32, 3 July 2021 (UTC) Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste `{{WPMILHIST Review alerts}}` to your user space

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Administrator changes

Trialpears

AGK • Eliz81 • Mulad • ThaddeusB • Vianello • Who

Lacrimosus → Ikuzaf

Interface administrator changes

Ragesoss

CheckUser changes

AGK • DGG

Oversighter changes

AGK

Guideline and policy news

Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

Technical news

IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration

The community authorised COVID-19 general sanctions have been superseded by the COVID-19 discretionary sanctions following a motion at a case request. Alerts given and sanctions placed under the community authorised general sanctions are now considered alerts for and sanctions under the new discretionary sanctions.

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Your GA nomination of Pacific Salmon War

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Pacific Salmon War you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 15:41, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pacific Salmon War

The article Pacific Salmon War you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Pacific Salmon War for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Eddie891:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 1800 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

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Requesting evaluation of The Great Gatsby FAC nomination

Hello, Eddie. As you graciously assisted with the Peer Review of The Great Gatsby article, I was hoping you might weigh in with your opinion—whether pro or con—on its ongoing nomination as a Featured Article Candidate. Right now, the article's nomination has been languishing as very few editors have volunteered an opinion. As any Wikipedia editor can participate in a review of a FAC nomination, it would be appreciated if you would contribute an objective evaluation of the article. → Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/The_Great_Gatsby/archive2 — Flask (talk) 19:54, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Everett report

On 15 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Everett report, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the 1920s Edward A. Everett, with help from his stenographer Lulu G. Stillman, concluded that the Iroquois had been defrauded of their land, but their report was "buried" until the 1970s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Everett report. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Everett report), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Lulu G. Stillman

On 15 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lulu G. Stillman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the 1920s Edward A. Everett, with help from his stenographer Lulu G. Stillman, concluded that the Iroquois had been defrauded of their land, but their report was "buried" until the 1970s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Everett report. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lulu G. Stillman), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Edward A. Everett (New York politician)

On 15 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Edward A. Everett (New York politician), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the 1920s Edward A. Everett, with help from his stenographer Lulu G. Stillman, concluded that the Iroquois had been defrauded of their land, but their report was "buried" until the 1970s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Everett report. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Edward A. Everett (New York politician)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eric Anthony Abrahams

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Eric Anthony Abrahams you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Wasted Time R -- Wasted Time R (talk) 10:21, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Library ancestry.com

Dear Eddie,

I hope you enjoy your vacation and that you're the right person to ask this. On May 11, you confirmed my application for ancestry.com. On May 26, I received a log-in by mail. However, the log in information in the mail didn't, and still doesn't, work. Has anything gone wrong our do I still need for to wait for Ancestry to do something?

Best, --Linseneintopf (talk) 16:21, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Linseneintopf, unfortunately there is a known issue with ancestry accounts not working as they should. We have reached out to Ancestry, but as far as I know have not heard back. I will update you when I know more, sorry to give such an unsatisfying response. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:55, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Hill We Climb

The article The Hill We Climb you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Hill We Climb for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of BennyOnTheLoose -- BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:41, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eric Anthony Abrahams

The article Eric Anthony Abrahams you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Eric Anthony Abrahams for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Wasted Time R -- Wasted Time R (talk) 23:21, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Frances Spatz Leighton

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Frances Spatz Leighton you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tayi Arajakate -- Tayi Arajakate (talk) 10:41, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pacific Salmon War

The article Pacific Salmon War you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Pacific Salmon War for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 19:41, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Proposed Women in Green Editathon

Hello Eddie -- With the goal of helping to progress the WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) women’s rights-themed GA nomination goal for 2021, I’m proposing that WiG hold a special editathon event in the fall (maybe October/November?). I can assist with logistics, but I need to know how much interest/support there might be from WiG participants first. Please let me know what you think in the talk page conversation! All the best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 01:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

William B. Jordan

Hello Eddie891, how are things at your end? Life became incredibly busy for me — unexpectedly at that — and I have been trying to manage a multitude of different things at once. But they are going smoothly thus far. In the midst of all that, I forgot that I nominated William B. Jordan for a peer review. I have followed how you have approached articles that you have worked on, amongst other things, to write Jordan's article to the best of my abilities. But I am not sure where it would stand in the context of a future featured article nomination because of my lack of experience in the area. I hold your content work in high regards, and if you could find the time to have a look at it, I would greatly value your inputs at the peer review. Sincerely. — The Most Comfortable Chair 07:26, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

July corner

June continued ... last year's flowers match the image on the user page nicely, see? - DYK that her last reply to me was in a thread Green for hope? - The DYK set in honour of Yoninah appeared yesterday, including Psalm 85, with the kiss of justice and peace - we wrote that together.

Fourth of July: Brian's birthday, remembered in gratitude for his unfailing inspiration and support - remember the Chapel - the missed - the music? - Can I interest you in a user's first FAC, Carillon? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

More music: 2 songs, the morning song - about rising from being down, in more than one sense - is a GA, - there should be more given my initials, but I also want to care for articles of those who recently died (now Esther Béjarano), and psalms in memory of Yoninah, - more missing than there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

+ more music, cello sonatas and a new song about a feast - a dear family member remembered today when she would have been 122 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Frances Spatz Leighton

The article Frances Spatz Leighton you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Frances Spatz Leighton for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tayi Arajakate -- Tayi Arajakate (talk) 14:01, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Frances Spatz Leighton

The article Frances Spatz Leighton you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Frances Spatz Leighton for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tayi Arajakate -- Tayi Arajakate (talk) 15:41, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Mirza Abad, Chakri

Howdy - I just grabbed your name from the top of the recently active admins list :) Could I ask you to help put a stop to the ongoing edit-warring at Mirza Abad, Chakri? The entire history of that thing consists of Haseebmirza306 placing uncited material and everyone else reverting it back to redirect. Mulitply warned (half their talk page is about this) but entirely oblivious. Don't know what's indicated here, a page ban comes to mind (which will probably result in them creating a spelling variant, but may be worth a try)... Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:22, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, Elmidae, that's not really in my area of expertise and I'm unfortunately not the person to be handling that-- I just don't feel I have the necessary knowledge. Apologies and I wish you all the best, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:49, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

August Editathons at Women in Red

Women in Red | August 2021, Volume 7, Issue 8, Numbers 184, 188, 204, 205, 206, 207

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Discontent Content Issue 6

Discontent Content Issue #6

Welcome, subscribers, to the sixth Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

Articles in this category are those that need to be brought up to a minimum quality standard. Some will be stubs; others will be longer articles that nonetheless have significant concerns putting them far below B- or C-class adequacy.

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Floating match on card: This famous magic trick is a microstub with an empty section and no meaningful discussion of its methods or effects. Some useful information is available on the talk page.
Erotic horror: A significant literary (or, well...look, you know) genre with significant academic and critical coverage, which you wouldn't know from reading its three-sentence article.
Black ribbon: Currently in poor shape, with unnecessary lists attracting spurious examples, this article nonetheless has potential to cover a coherent topic on a sensitive subject.

Category 2

Articles in this category, while in better current shape than Category 1, are still missing something. They have the potential to be truly high-quality content, and may have been at one point. With work, they can be brought up to dizzying heights.

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

Violin: This twice-candidate at GAN has good bones, but suffers from expanses of uncited content (and indeed expanses of "people slapping CN tags on literally every sentence"). Much of this information should be citable, and potential exists for this article to stand tall amongst other core music articles.
Art museum: Though this looks a little underrated as a soi-disant "Start", it's nonetheless an important cultural article with significant improvement potential. This was a former candidate for the Team-B-Vital campaign ran by members of the Wikimedia Discord to bring Vital Articles to B-class status, and while not selected, it has strong potential for anyone interested in working on it.
Grocery store: Daily life has always been one of Wikipedia's coverage gaps. Though this topic is something virtually anyone deals with on a regular basis, the article struggles with cleanup tags, sandwiching, and the weird fear of prose that drives people to put everything they can in a list. With hundreds of views a day, readers deserve an article with a stronger core.

Category 3

Articles in this category have been assessed through a content review process in the past, but may require work to be brought up to current GA/FA standard. Editors can help bring them to a level where the star or plus near their names can once again shine.

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Slackers CDs and Games: This GA hasn't had significant content edits since 2008. As much of its content references then-recent controversies, it needs a good look for updating.
Potential superpowers: GA with a multiple issues template, with concerns of outdated information, lack of citations, and potential OR.
Alzheimer's disease: This major medical FA is at FAR due to outdated information, an unfortunately common scourge of medical articles over time. Such an important article needs people willing to get it in good shape.

Letter from the Editor

After my prior thoughts on GA sweeps and their viability, work is beginning to break down what parts of the backlog can be tackled. Planning is beginning at User:Vaticidalprophet/GA reform and its talk; feel free to give your opinion, participate in current GARs, and assess articles. The current plan is to look at GAs with outstanding cleanup tags as our first priority.

Sorry for the delay this time around -- I've been having A Month healthwise. I expect to maintain this at an approximately monthly schedule and will try not to let it slip further. I'm enthused by the work going on at GAR lately and hope to work something excellent out of it.
Vaticidalprophet 01:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021

Your Military History Newsletter

Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results
Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content
Book review: Peacemaker67 and Nick-D on World War I

The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here.
If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Harlem

Thanks for making the page on Harlem by Langston Hughes back in February. Completely shocked we didn't have a page on it for so long especially when similarly notable poems had pages way back in 2006. Guess it just goes to show there's still a lot of work to do on wikipedia. Paragon Deku (talk) 23:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Paragon Deku, that means a lot! It was a pleasure to write, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Administrator changes

BusterD

Kees08 • Nickshanks • Protonk • Schissel • Ultraexactzz • Wknight94

CheckUser changes

TheresNoTime

Oversighter changes

TheresNoTime

ST47

Guideline and policy news

An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news

Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

Arbitration

Following an amendment request, the committee has clarified that the Talk page exception to the 500/30 rule in remedy 5 of the Palestine-Israel articles 4 case does not apply to requested move discussions.

Miscellaneous

You can vote for candidates in the 2021 Board of Trustees elections from 4 August to 17 August. Four community elected seats are up for election.

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First year as an admin!

Wishing Eddie891 a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 17:25, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

August thanks

Thank you for improving articles in August! I try, today DYK for a GA by a banned user. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda! Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:22, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

September 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | September 2021, Volume 7, Issue 9, Numbers 184, 188, 204, 205, 207, 208

Online events:

New: Women writers & their works
Contest (Jul/Aug/Sep): Latin America contest
Continuing: Women's leadership & empowerment | Olympic & Paralympic Games
Women's rights | #1day1woman

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021

Your Military History Newsletter

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Book review: Hawkeye7 on Commonwealth armies and an Australian spy, Nick-D on the American Revolutionary War and RAAF mine laying
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DYK for Mary Cutts

On 30 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mary Cutts, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mary Cutts was told that her memoir on Dolley Madison needed more emphasis on "important men and masculine subjects"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Cutts. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mary Cutts), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Narayana Verlag

Hey Eddie891, I noticed you closed Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Narayana_Verlag. This isn't a formal objection, but I do think it may have been appropriate to relist the discussion instead, since I do think the possibility exists of their being German-language sources that establish notability, and that's a pretty quick close by modern AfD standards. Anyway, thanks for closing it and helping out at AfD! Suriname0 (talk) 15:49, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

You know what, strike this comment; your actions are perfectly in line with WP:NOQUORUM. I think I'm just too used to AfDs that last for 3-4 weeks. Suriname0 (talk) 15:57, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:58, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pompey stone

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Pompey stone you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 20:22, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

WikiCup 2021 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished with over 500 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants, The Rambling Man and Epicgenius, each scoring over 3000 points, and six contestants scoring over 1000. All but one of the finalists achieved one or more FAs during the round, the exception being Bloom6132 who demonstrated that 61 "in the news" items produces an impressive number of points. Other contestants who made it to the final are Gog the Mild, Lee Vilenski, BennyOnTheLoose, Amakuru and Hog Farm. However, all their points are now swept away and everyone starts afresh in the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 18 featured articles and 157 good articles. Bilorv scored for a 25-article good topic on Black Mirror but narrowly missed out on qualifying for the final round. There was enthusiasm for FARs, with 89 being performed, and there were 63 GARs and around 100 DYKs during the round. As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it to the final round; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. For other contestants, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pompey stone

The article Pompey stone you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Pompey stone for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 16:22, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

Jake Wartenberg

Emperor • Viridian Bovary

Ashleyyoursmile → Viridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

Feedback is requested on the Universal Code of Conduct enforcement draft by the Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee.
A RfC is open on whether to allow administrators to use extended confirmed protection on high-risk templates.
A discussion is open to decide when, if ever, should discord logs be eligible for removal when posted onwiki (including whether to oversight them)
A RfC on the next steps after the trial of pending changes on TFAs has resulted in a 30 day trial of automatic semi protection for TFAs.

Technical news

The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

A request for comment is in progress to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the Arbitration Committee election and resolve any issues not covered by existing rules. Comments and new proposals are welcome.

Miscellaneous

The 2021 RfA review is now open for comments.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pompey stone

The article Pompey stone you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Pompey stone for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 07:41, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Watauga Falls

Thanks for adding the info to the Watauga Falls page. I was thinking of merging the Watauga Falls page into Falls Creek (West Branch Delaware River tributary). Do you think thats a good idea as well? Thanks -420Traveler (talk) 16:39, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I think it's better to have them as separate pages, mostly because the infoboxes on separate pages are already so much longer than the content and it will show up higher on gsearch results, but am not wedded to the idea. Use your best judgment, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:03, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Fold3 subscription

Hi. I am having issues with the Fold3 subscription that you have approved. The account with Fold3 is (still) showing as expired, and I am not sure of the pathway to get this reviewed. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:22, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi, @Billinghurst, I'm looking at your application and it does seem that I approved your Fold3 application. However, I'm also seeing an application that's marked as invalid and gives me an error message when I try to pull it up. What do you see when you open your interface? Let's take this conversation over email, if that's OK with you... Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:37, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Done and sent you a link to a phabricator image of the account screen. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:47, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mary V. R. Thayer

On 6 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mary V. R. Thayer, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mary V. R. Thayer was briefly arrested on suspicion of spying after abandoning a 1929 business trip in the Soviet Union to explore the Caucasus? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary V. R. Thayer. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mary V. R. Thayer), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Reply-link officially superseded by DiscussionTools

Hi! Reply-link has officially been superseded by mw:DiscussionTools, which you can install using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. DiscussionTools, developed by the WMF's Editing Team, is faster and has more features than reply-link, and it wouldn't make sense for me to keep developing reply-link. I think the Editing Team is doing amazing work, and look forward to what they can do in the future. Thank you for using reply-link over the years! Enterprisey (talk!) 06:11, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Improper termonology at close

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DokuWiki is not a "speedy keep". There is nothing speedy in a discussion that lasted 22 days. The proper close terminology is "withdrawn by the nominator". Can you adjust the wording? TIA. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Sure although I’ll note both WP:WITHDRAWN and WP:CSK#1 support closing withdrawn nominations as speedy keep. It’s just odd for someone to withdraw that far into the discussion, I think. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 11:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

@Eddie891 Thanks. I couldn't withdraw until one delete vote was withdrawn, and that took a while. A technicality, of course. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:54, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eric Anthony Abrahams

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Eric Anthony Abrahams you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 20:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eric Anthony Abrahams

The article Eric Anthony Abrahams you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Eric Anthony Abrahams for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 21:01, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nomination period closing soon

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are still open, but not for long. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! No further nominations will be accepted after that time. Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:42, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eric Anthony Abrahams

The article Eric Anthony Abrahams you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Eric Anthony Abrahams for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:41, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election voting has commenced

Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Appropriate questions for the candidates can also be asked. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:38, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

Hello Eddie891,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.

Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.

To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent to 827 users. 04:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

A quick thank you!

Thank you for awarding me my first barnstar! Here's to many more red links turned blue :) Unexpectedlydian (talk) 10:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Pompey stone

On 18 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pompey stone, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Pompey stone was believed to date to the early 1500s for over 70 years before it was revealed to be a hoax in 1894? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pompey stone. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Pompey stone), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

James Longstreet FAC

Hello. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/James Longstreet/archive1 is in need of additional reviewers. It requires a source review and at least one additional general review. If you are interested, please feel free to leave a review of the article. Thank you. Display name 99 (talk) 21:07, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I'll try and take a look shortly, though I'm about to become very busy IRL... Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:32, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Much appreciated. Display name 99 (talk) 17:13, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Just reminding you about this. I'm not sure if you got my ping on the review page. Thank you. Display name 99 (talk) 11:28, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I just haven't been in the right frame of mind to review a lengthy FAC... Hopefully I will have some comments ready to publish tomorrow Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:58, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Hitler-fighter articles need help: Erhard Auer & Münchener Post

Erhard Auer was the Editor in Chief of the Münchener Post, it was shut down by Hitler in March 1933 immediately after he became the Reich Chancellor. Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party called the newspaper and its editors "Giftküche" (The Poison Kitchen) and "Münchener Pest ("Munich Pestilence" or "Munich Plague"). Hitler considered the paper one of his most vexing public adversaries, and the paper was the target of libel actions by the Nazi Party. The paper was one of the few early warning voices regarding the dangers posed by the rise of the Nazi Party, although their warnings went largely unheeded at the time. Auer was imprisoned in the Dachau concentration camp and died 20 March 1945. The first book written on Erhard Auer and the Münchener Post was in 2013, in Brazil. .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 19:46, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Altars for Peace

On 21 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Altars for Peace, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that four Altars for Peace, fashioned out of large trees by George Nakashima, have been placed on different continents? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Altars for Peace. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Altars for Peace), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Question about an AfD

Hello Eddie, I'm reaching out to you for admin advice on an AfD that seems to have been taken over by multiple single purpose accounts WP:SPAs, sock/meat puppets, block evasion. There is a lot of behavioral evidence. I am unsure whether to post a formal request on ANI, or open a SPI, or just wait and hope an admin intervenes at the AfD. As a regular editor, I'm not sure if I'm permitted to strike-out sock !votes. I'm also not sure whether filing a SPI is the correct thing to do because I'm pretty sure, based on behavioral and formatting evidence, that the IP SPAs might be the article creator (who is blocked), and I am hesitant that might formally "out" them in a SPI report. I am hoping you have a moment to please advise me with the proper route to take. Thank you in advance. The AfD is: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rockin Rose - Netherzone (talk) 14:43, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Netherzone, I agree that there are a suspicious number of seeming-SPA's on this page and you'd probably be justified bringing this up at ANI or filing an SPI. However, I'm unfortunately not super familiar with those specific procedures so can't give you the definitively correct answer, sorry. Cheers, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:42, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Eddie, I posted on ANI and the problem with the AfD has been resolved. Netherzone (talk) 00:41, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Four Award

		Four Award
		Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln. — Bilorv (talk) 23:09, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Bilorv! Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:33, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lost Tribe

Did you mean to close with an outcome of merge to Matt Darey? Thanks. --Michig (talk) 06:45, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for noticing that-- Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:33, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021

Your Military History Newsletter

Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results
Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content
Book review: Hawkeye7 on Australia and the UK in Iraq and Afghanistan
Op-ed: Nick-D on writing about military procurement

The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here.
If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 14:01, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Lekanbam on User:Lekanbam (16:18, 24 September 2021)

Format to upload my details --Lekanbam (talk) 16:18, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Lekanbam, I'm not sure exactly what you're asking for help doing. Can you be any more specific? If you're looking to create an article on yourself, that is strongly discouraged because it poses a conflict of interest. Regardless, an article you create must meet the general notability guideline or a subject-specific notability guideline, with significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. If you're looking for information more broadly on writing a Wikipedia article, I'd recommend reading your first article. Let me know if you have more specific questions I can answer. Thanks and best wishes, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:27, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting period closing soon

Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche will be closing soon. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:32, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 September 2021

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DYK for Bob Zellner

On 28 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bob Zellner, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that civil rights activist Bob Zellner was arrested at least 25 times and severely beaten on several occasions for his activism? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bob Zellner. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Bob Zellner), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Prison education at FAC

Hi Eddie891. You may recall you commented on the peer review for Prison education back in 2018; thanks again for your help in improving the article. No pressure, but I just thought I'd let you know the article is currently nominated for FAC. See here. If you would be wiling to take a look at the article again I would very much appreciate it, and do let me know if you'd like me to comment on something in return. Cheers. Damien Linnane (talk) 00:08, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Damien Linnane, I do remember this. I'll take a look in the weeks to come, it's an interesting topic. If you're interested, I'm looking for someone to copyedit/leave comments on the talk of This Dust Was Once the Man ahead of an FAC-- I don't think it really needs a full PR because it's just so short... Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:29, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Eddie891. I went through This Dust Was Once the Man and made some small changes. The only thing I'd change from here is introduce Drum Taps as a collection of poetry, for readers not already familiar with Whitman's work. I.e, change 'were all written as sequels to 'Drum-Taps' to 'were all written as sequels to Whitman's poetry collection Drum-Taps'. Let me know when it's nominated for FAC and I'll happily support it. Cheers. Damien Linnane (talk) 03:28, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for 1911 Capitol fire

On 29 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1911 Capitol fire, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1911 fire at the New York State Capitol destroyed over 700,000 items held by the New York State Library, creating a "hole in [New York's] cultural heritage"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1911 Capitol fire. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 1911 Capitol fire), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Dinah John

On 29 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dinah John, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Dinah John was one of an estimated fifteen Native American women from New York state to serve in the War of 1812? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dinah John. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Dinah John), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

October 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | October 2021, Volume 7, Issue 10, Numbers 184, 188, 209, 210, 211

Online events:

New: Women in STEM
New Contest (Oct/Nov/Dec): Women in Oceania contest
Continuing: Women's rights | #1day1woman

Special event:

12 October: Ada Lovelace Day 24-Hour Global Edit-a-thon

See also:

Women in Green Good Article Edit-a-thon

Other ways to participate:

Join the conversations on our talkpage.
Help plan and coordinate future events.
Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications.
Follow Women in Red on social media:

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--Rosiestep (talk) 01:35, 29 September 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Promotion of Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln

Congratulations, Eddie891! The article you nominated, Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Congrats. I do remember the promise I made to review this, and didn't fulfill, so feel free to come calling for your next FAC. –♠Vami _IV†♠ 00:14, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

@Vami IV, I have nominated This Dust Was Once the Man for FAC, if you're interested... Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:55, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

September songs

Omas gegen Rechts - enjoy strong women! I thought of Yoninah on the first day of Rosh Hashanah. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

today: the day of bold red and black, for Dante who died 700 years ago, and Peter Fleischmann who died recently, leaving us films full of vision. Dante: just heard Inferno, imagined by a woman, the main character both speaking and singing with an inner 4-part voice! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:31, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for improving articles in September, - a good harvest! On Peace Day, Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Today: a woman in red (back to the beginning of the thread), two who died under "in memoriam" and LouisAlain missed - my first editnotice read: "Every editor is a human being" which is quoted from a comment by Geometry guy in a 2012 discussion on WP:AN. --

20-minute article assessment volunteers

Hi Eddie891 -- I'm just checking in with volunteers for the WiG Good Article Editathon (starting tomorrow!). Are you still set to help out with the 20-minute article assessments? You can watchlist the requests page here. Basic plan: as requests come in, volunteers will mark the request as "in progress," leave their comments on the talk page of the article, then mark the request as "done". We'll be aiming to identify any major issues in articles and suggest priorities for the editor to work on. If you have any questions/concerns, just let me know. Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 18:41, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes I am Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:56, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).

Administrator changes

Blablubbs

Alvestrand • Black Falcon • Deathphoenix • Dppowell • Mark Arsten • JGHowes (deceased)

Oversighter changes

Callanecc

Mkdw

Interface administrator changes

Galobtter

Guideline and policy news

Following an RfC, extended confirmed protection may be used preemptively on certain high-risk templates.
Following a discussion at the Village Pump, there is consensus to treat discord logs the same as IRC logs. This means that discord logs will be oversighted if posted onwiki.

Technical news

DiscussionTools has superseded Enterprisey's reply-link script. Editors may switch using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features.

Arbitration

A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.

Miscellaneous

Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:03, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project

		Military history reviewers' award
		On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the The Milhist reviewing award (1 stripe) for participating in 3 reviews between July and September 2021. Peacemaker67 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 03:47, 2 October 2021 (UTC) Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste `{{WPMILHIST Review alerts}}` to your user space

Moved

Hello, i have saw delete the article instead reback the article, i have reason here the article is now ready which is now expand as well thank you HurricaneEdgar 13:30, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

That's not an admin action, virtually anyone can move the page if they desire to. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:32, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

oh, ok thank you. HurricaneEdgar 13:33, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Anup Shukla

--45.112.40.4 (talk) 14:04, 4 October 2021 (UTC) respected Eddie891 I believe after reading the deletion policy that Anup Shukla article was unfairly deleted, can I ask the administrator who deleted the article for a fuller explanation. because this article Anup Shukla exists for the last 8 years.

Hi IP, the article was deleted as a result of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anup Shukla, where the general consensus was that the subject does not meet our notability guidelines, specifically NBIO and NACTOR. The only opposition came from your IP address, where you said the article should not be deleted because it had existed for eight years and been edited "by many verified users." However, neither of those are valid reasons for an article to not be deleted. The subject must meet a relevant notability guideline. I'd suggest reading those pages over if it's still unclear, and if you have any further questions let me know and I'm happy to clarify as possible. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

RfA 2021 review update

Thanks so much for participating in Phase 1 of the RfA 2021 review. 8 out of the 21 issues discussed were found to have consensus. Thanks to our closers of Phase 1, Primefac and Wugapodes.

The following had consensus support of participating editors:

Corrosive RfA atmosphere
The atmosphere at RfA is deeply unpleasant. This makes it so fewer candidates wish to run and also means that some members of our community don't comment/vote.
Level of scrutiny
Many editors believe it would be unpleasant to have so much attention focused on them. This includes being indirectly a part of watchlists and editors going through your edit history with the chance that some event, possibly a relatively trivial event, becomes the focus of editor discussion for up to a week.
Standards needed to pass keep rising
It used to be far easier to pass RfA however the standards necessary to pass have continued to rise such that only "perfect" candidates will pass now.
Too few candidates
There are too few candidates. This not only limits the number of new admin we get but also makes it harder to identify other RfA issues because we have such a small sample size.
"No need for the tools" is a poor reason as we can find work for new admins

The following issues had a rough consensus of support from editors:

Lifetime tenure (high stakes atmosphere)
Because RfA carries with it lifetime tenure, granting any given editor sysop feels incredibly important. This creates a risk adverse and high stakes atmosphere.
Admin permissions and unbundling
There is a large gap between the permissions an editor can obtain and the admin toolset. This brings increased scrutiny for RFA candidates, as editors evaluate their feasibility in lots of areas.
RfA should not be the only road to adminship
Right now, RfA is the only way we can get new admins, but it doesn't have to be.

Please consider joining the brainstorming which will last for the next 1-2 weeks. This will be followed by Phase 2, a 30 day discussion to consider solutions to the problems identified in Phase 1.

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Question from Rgarcia002 (23:00, 9 October 2021)

hi eddie, i want to create a strong bio for my knowledge panel on google. --Rgarcia002 (talk) 23:00, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Rgarcia, It's not recommended (in fact: strongly discouraged) to write an article on yourself, I'd recommend giving WP:AUTOBIO a careful read before proceeding any further. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from Shamnas Rufaidh (04:01, 15 October 2021)

How to delete my Wikipedia account completely --Shamnas Rufaidh (talk) 04:01, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, @Shamnas Rufaidh, I'm sorry to hear that you want to completely delete your account. Is there a specific reason? Perhaps you just need a break from editing. Regardless, your account cannot be completely deleted. However, you can indicate your retirement from editing or request a courtesy vanishing of your account. Hope this helps, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln scheduled for TFA

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of Standard Galactic Alphabet. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. I translated the page in from the Nederlands wikipedia and added a few citations and clean up. The page is notable. It has an omniglot entry. The script itself is still being used in video games, and is an important part of video game history. The article needs to be filled in a bit, but there is tons of information on it, so this shouldn't be difficult.

To see the article in Standard Galactic Script, see Standard Galactic Alphabet in SGA. Mechachleopteryx (talk) 01:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from CoRoverChatbot on Draft:CoRover: The world's first human centric conversational AI platform (17:05, 17 October 2021)

Having a bit of trouble uploading my company logo, any idea how to go about this? --CoRoverChatbot (talk) 17:05, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

I'd recommend reading the relevant guidelines on editing with a conflict of interest first (hint: it isn't really recommended) and there's various steps that must be taken to disclose it Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:36, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grange Industrial Estate (2nd nomination)

I'm unsure were the redirect outcome comes from? Only a single editor suggested this but then rationalised it with what is essentially a delete argument. Besides, the suggested target offers nothing helpful and the delete consensus seemed fairly solid. The new target doesn't even mention the industrial estate. I do favour appropriate alternatives where viable but there wasn't a case made here. Please can you reconsider or explain? Thanks. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

the article does mention a ‘Grange’, and someone looking for it would likely appreciate a redirect to the local area. Redirects are cheap and I didn’t see a convincing rationale for why deletion would have been preferable to redirection- as they are fundamentally similar outcomes. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:48, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

There was no rationale offered for redirection, at all. Grange is merely mentioned as a single unlinked word. I agree with the concept of "cheap" redirects, but if this was in any way appropriate, it would have been supported as such. Just seemed a bit of an inattentive conclusion to me. I'm also a firm believer in closure rationales being offered where the closer does not actually close in accordance with consensus. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:14, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

I don’t see why redirection is such an issue here and I figured most editors could figure out the connection between a redirect to the larger geographic area without explicitly stating it. Again, redirect and delete are essentially the same in that the article isn’t around any more. Here, I didn’t see a reason why deletion would have been much better encyclopedic outcome. If you have a greater problem with my closure, DRV or RfD are the places to take it. If you have a broader issue with my competence as an admin, that’s a discussion we can have. Best, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:58, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

I guess it's more the principle. I perhaps just expect some closure rationale if a concluded outcome isn't consistent with a discussion. It isn't a competence issue, sorry if you felt that. It's also not a significant enough concern to press for review on, though it's a good idea to be mindful about explaining actions if it isn't evident from a discussion (not that you need me to say that). Thanks. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:29, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough, I'll take that into consideration going forward. Also, Teaching grandmother to suck eggs is a new phrase to me, hadn't heard it (to remember) before! Best, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:37, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for May Childs Nerney

On 23 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article May Childs Nerney, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as secretary of the NAACP, May Childs Nerney has been credited with "laying the fundamental groundwork" for "the most powerful organization battling racial injustice"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/May Childs Nerney. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, May Childs Nerney), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Shemer's Hebrew translation of "Oh Captain, My Captain"

I understand and support your reasoning for reverting my edit here. ^[1]

As a relatively new editor, I am still struggling with the correct way to create links to the Hebrew Wikipedia article^[2] for this poem which includes discussion of the poem itself, Shemer's translation and several earlier translations that were not as popular in Israel. I could not insert it as an internal link to the English Wikipedia. My attempt to add it as an external link resulted in a warning so I removed the "circular" link. The more I read about it - the more confused I get. I am now wondering if I should instead do something through WikiData instead but I have no experience with this and would appreciate some guidance

My statement that the translation which does not mention Rabin by name is performed in yearly memorial services is mentioned in the Hebrew Wikipedia article. I can personally attest that this statement is true and that these performances are so common that any limited sample of quotes not do justice to the phenomenon. The youtube link I provided shows Rabin's widow and granddaughter in the audience at one of these performances - which is notable in its own right. An album compilation of songs to commemorate Rabin is titled "רב חובל" (Captain) after Shemer's Hebrew translation which is included^[3]

The poem does not mention either Nelson or Lincoln by name but is clearly applicable to both. It certainly could not have mentioned Roosevelt, Kennedy or Rabin by name when it was published - but the fact that it was (and still is) used to commemorate fallen leaders is a powerful testimony to its lasting power and popularity.

I would appreciate it if you could help me phrase an appropriate way to mention how the poem is being used as yet another "elegy to a fallen leader". Annette Maon (talk) 13:39, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

References

^ "O Captain! My Captain!", Wikipedia, 2021-10-18, retrieved 2021-10-19
^ "הו רב חובל", ויקיפדיה (in Hebrew), 2021-02-25, retrieved 2021-10-19
^ "אמנים שונים | רב-חובל - לזכרו של יצחק רבין". דיסק סנטר (in Hebrew). Retrieved 2021-10-19.

Hi, @Annette Maon It must be frustrating to find something you know to be true and not be able to include it. However, wipedia is not a reliable source, so in order for a claim to be included in an article it must be cited in a reliable secondary source, not a separate language Wikipedia article. Similarly something that is "obvious" to you is, unfortunately, generally not acceptable in a Wikipedia article unless you can find a secondary source establishing such a connection. To me, I don't think it's particularly necessary to mention that the poem doesn't mention Rabin by name, because if it's a translation of course it wouldn't-- the original poem doesn't either. Can you find any sourcing discussing the other translations? If so, we can add mention. Let me know if this makes sense or not Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:55, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. I am well aware that something that is "obvious" to me or something I can "personally attest" to does not make it acceptable in the Article. That is the reason I said it here on the talk page. I am also painfully aware that Help:Interlanguage links can not be as easily inserted as internal links and are not acceptable as external links. I am still trying to figure out which of the instructions at Help:Interlanguage links are appropriate in the context and would appreciate guidance.

I agree that it is not necessary to mention that "the poem doesn't mention XXX by name" not only because it is a translation of the original which did not mention Lincoln by name but because it would have been impossible for Whitman to mention Roosevelt, Kennedy, Rabin, or Robin Williams before they were even born. The point I was trying to get across (not very successfully) is that the anonymity of the captain allows the poem to refer (without any adjustments) to leaders other than Lincoln and Nelson. If Whitman intentionally crafted the ambiguity and the nautical imagery in the poem to accommodate both Lincoln and Nelson - that can explain the lasting power which keeps the poem immortal.

BTW, the phrase "Although no direct reference to Nelson is made, the parallels are unmistakable" is an exact quote from the only source I could find^[1] that mentions Nelson.

OK, Annette Maon, I think you're asking two different questions, correct me if I'm wrong. 1) you want some clarification on how the poem has been applicable to other national leaders. I edited the first sentence of the 'in popular culture' section to read The poem, which never mentions Lincoln by name, has frequently been invoked following the deaths of a head of state. and added as it never mentions Lincoln, it has been invoked upon the death of several other heads of state. to the lede How does that sound to you? 2) I think you want more of a mention of Horatio Nelson's connection. Unfortunately, we'll never know whether the ambiguity was intentional on Whitman's part-- and I'm just not seeing enough analysis of it that would merit more than a couple of sentences. The very problem is that I've only been able to find that source too. If it really was "unmistakable", one would imagine more sources would describe it. This might sound kind of stupid, but I'm dead serious: If you think there's this completely missing connection, write about it and submit it to a respected literary journal. If it gets published, then we can add more of a mention. Sorry not to have a better answer for you. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:14, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks User:Eddie891. Your edits clarified the use of anonymity and improved the flow in the "popular culture" section. I agree with you that without a respected publication in a serious journal we do not have justification for more text on Nelson. I am surprised that I can not find more on Nelson. I found several comments in online discussion that express certainty by specific individuals about the reference to Nelson . It is not just the nautical illusion but the reference to the crowds celebrating on the shore that brings Nelson to mind much more than Lincoln. It seems obvious to me (and some others) that the poet uses Nelson's historically well known dramatic death as the basis for the metaphor that he applies to Lincoln's more recent assignation. Still I agree that until someone can find these arguments in a reliable secondary source, my personal views do not justify including them in the article. This does seems to be a "completely missing connection" in the literature and may be an opportunity for someone to get published, but as I have no interest in doing it myself, I guess we'll have to leave it at that.

I am still wondering what would be an appropriate way to apply the instructions at Help:Interlanguage links to mention the Hebrew Wikipedia article. I assume that since you have not replied to that yet, it may not be in your field of expertise or interest. I would appreciate a pointer or ping to someone who might be able to help.

I also wonder if the two links I provided (to youtube and the title of the song compilation) are enough to justify a few more sentences about Shemer's translation still being used in yearly memorial services decades after Rabin's assignation. Many school children in Israel (and some of their younger teachers) were not even born when Rabin was assassinated. They associate the song with Rabin and some are not even aware of the reference to either Lincoln or Nelson. Since I do not have a secondary source for that last statement, I do not expect it to be included in the article. I do believe that placing an expanded reference to Shemer's translation and music in proximity to "some people, maybe even most people, now associate Whitman's verse first and foremost with a movie rather than a poem" would enhance the article. Annette Maon (talk) 05:09, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

That's an interesting point. I haven't responded to your point about the interlanguage links because I can't really think about a time when it would be appropriate to link another language article where an English one exists. If there's suitable content to mention, it should be added to the English article. Are there reliable Hebrew sources that discuss this connection? If so we can look into expanding a mention on the English Wiki. Sources for content don't have to be in English. Similarly, the youtube link and song compilation are both primary sources that aren't super helpful in establishing that some content should be included. Sure they can verify it, but if it hasn't been discussed elsewhere (for instance in newspapers), why does it merit inclusion in a tertiary encyclopedia? We cannot mention every single time the poem has been read, or else the article would be almost un-navigable. I'd like to find some more reliable mentions of the translation, I just haven't been able to. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:46, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

References

^ "Whitman, Walt | Searchable Sea Literature". sites.williams.edu. Retrieved 2021-10-20.

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October songs

Thank you for improving articles in October, and even a FA! - Today: see yourself, read about a hymn praying to not be on earth in vain, about a comics artist whose characters have character (another collaboration of the "perennial gang", broken by one of us banned), and in memory of the last prima donna assoluta, Edita Gruberová. I had to go to two grave sites last week, one who died now, one who died 10 years ago, so standing upright and in black seems appropriate. More colours - but subdued - can be had on hikes, - click on songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

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Question from Simeonjakobwollman (19:41, 3 November 2021)

hello where do you live?, Ilive at Hillcrest colony,sk. --Simeonjakobwollman (talk) 19:41, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I'm from Central New York. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:03, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

TolumiDE

Hi, I'd like to see this article that you deleted a few weeks back. thanks--Wikitikitengo2 (talk) 03:00, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Samuel Scoville

Long time, no "see". Came across this forgotten author while digging through a biographical dictionary. Thought it might be up your alley—my sense is that there's lots of coverage lying around but I haven't dug through all of it yet. No obligation, of course; just thought I'd mention. Hope you're well. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 14:54, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, @AleatoryPonderings, it's great to see you around and hear from you. I'm remarkably busy this weekend, however this does seem both very interesting and something I'd like to work on. I'll try to check in in this coming week. Hope you're well and thanks for bringing this over. Cheers, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:23, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

No worries! There is, of course, WP:NODEADLINE—just thought it might be of interest. Best of luck with all the busy-ness. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:27, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks, Victuallers, this means a lot! Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:39, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

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Question from GunderM (00:05, 9 November 2021)

how do I save my edits as a draft? --GunderM (talk) 00:05, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, @GunderM, and good question! If you're trying to draft an article, I'd recommend using the WP:ARTICLEWIZARD to write a draft article that is not reviewed until you're ready. If you want a place to test editing, you can use your sandbox, explicitly for this purpose. I hope that's helpful! Best, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:40, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

This Dust Was Once the Man

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November songs

That's an excellent prospect, but first today: thank you for Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln, and your efforts to make the relation a featured topic, including When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:58, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

thanks, @Gerda Arendt, beautiful image! Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:55, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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Ancestry.com

Hi Eddie, just wanted to ping you on my Ancestry account. I've clicked on "extend." Thanks, Coretheapple (talk) 21:41, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

I haven't gotten any report of this request, curiously. Have you heard any further update? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

No I haven't heard anything further. I extended (in the "My Collections" page of My Library ) a few days ago, and just tried again. I received no message indicating that I had previously applied to extend my subscription. Perhaps it didn't go through last time? Coretheapple (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Responded via email. I've seen no request on my end-- perhaps Nikkimaria or Samwalton9 (WMF) may be able to advise further? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:53, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, that would be appreciated. Unfortunately I am still barred access though my account works. Apparently I am not the only user affected, though I and another editor apparently are among the first to have noticed. Coretheapple (talk) 17:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@Coretheapple: I don't see your renewal request anywhere, could you try clicking Extend again? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:38, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@Samwalton9: I did so again. Since I've clicked on "extend" at least 2-3 times , I suspect that there may be something wrong with that button. Coretheapple (talk) 22:04, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

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How do I write my own article? --Gman the great (talk) 13:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, @Gman the great, for your first article I'd recommend that you use the WP:Article wizard to draft it through the articles for creation process. It has a great walk through. If you have more specific questions, don't hesitate to reach out. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:44, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Question from Adamshahwikieditor on Afridi (16:03, 27 November 2021)

How do i remove an old incorrect picture and change it with an accurate on

on infobox --Adamshahwikieditor (talk) 16:03, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, @Adamshahwikieditor, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do. If you click on the 'edit' tab, you should see the infobox. If it's source editing, you should see something like

{{infobox ethnic group
:| group            = Afridi
:| native_name      = {{Naskh|افریدی}}
:| native_name_lang = ps
:| image            = Group of Afridis at Jamrūd, 1866 WDL11469, crop.png
:| caption          = Afridi tribesmen photographed by [[Charles Shepherd (photographer)|Charles Shepherd]] at the [[Jamrud Fort]] in [[British Raj|British India]], 1866
:| pop              = ~450,000<ref name="India">[http://www.khyber.org/tribes/info/Afridi__Iranica.shtml Afridi demographics in Pakistan and Afghanistan] The excessive figure sometimes mentioned in Afghanistan reflects in a particular way the Afghan claim to [[Pashtunistan]] and actually represents an estimate of the whole of the Afridi tribe on both sides of the frontier.</ref>
:| region1          = {{flag|Pakistan}}
:| pop1             = ~440,000
:| region2          = {{flag|Afghanistan}}
:| pop2             = ~10,000
:| ref1             = <ref name="AfridiPakDemo"/>
:| languages        = [[Pashto]]
:| rels             = [[Sunni Islam]]
:| related          = [[Khattak]]s{{·}}[[Orakzai]]s{{·}}[[Wazir (tribe)|Wazir]]s{{·}}[[Mehsud]]s<br>and other [[Karlani|Karlani Pashtun]] tribes
:}}
:

The |image= parameter is the image, and |caption= the connected caption. If you do change the image, I recommend explaining why, as well. I hope that is helpful. Best, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:13, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

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