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General advice

Hi CommanderWaterford,

Welcome to Wikipedia! Just in case: Please have a quick look at WP:PAID and WP:COI; if either applies to you, please say so. I can then provide more specific advice. If you have edited under a different name, or on a different Wikipedia (German?) before, please also take a moment to disclose this. If none of this applies, you can freely ignore this message. Do feel free to ask any questions that arise, though, for example at the Teahouse.

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Will ignore it, look at my other contribs. --CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, thanks for the clarification. It may sound strange, but I did, and that's what made me send the message. Just in case. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:25, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

? ~ ToBeFree Sorry, but I think you have me confused with someone else. I don't get paid for this article, I was noticed about it this morning. Furthermore, I am not German nor member of the german wikipedia although I speak it almost as a native. --CommanderWaterford (talk) 13:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I have misinterpreted this completely. Thank you very much for the clarification, and feel free to remove the strange advice. The seemingly random welcome messages made me incorrectly raise an eyebrow. Welcome to Wikipedia! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:44, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

I see, a sheriff :), watching everyone newbies log?! Not my first time contributing for Wikipedia, long time ago and I really encourage new users to participate, that's it, you should do it the same way, not contributing to the german edition?--CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

New pages, mostly. Not specific users. When I notice interesting page creations, I have a short look at the other edits. Of course, encouraging new users to participate is a good idea. User:HostBot does so in most cases, but if you notice a constructive contributor, welcoming them is perfect. And welcome back to you then! If you had a registered username and remember which it was, you may like to point this out on your user page. However, you are not required to do so unless there had been problems with the old account (see WP:Clean start). If you did not have a registered username and contributed as an IP address, you are never required to disclose the address (see WP:LOGOUT), and probably don't remember it anyway. Regarding the German edition, I do! See de:Spezial:Beiträge/ToBeFree for my German Wikipedia contributions. They just have less work for me to do than the English Wikipedia. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: DreamLab (App) (May 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AaqibAnjum was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 16:20, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, CommanderWaterford! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 16:20, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

May 2020

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Cemetery of San Fernando, from its old location at User:CommanderWaterford/sandbox. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. KylieTastic (talk) 10:13, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks KylieTastic but I submitted for review for publishing ?! CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Forget it, got it. Thanks. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Cemetery of San Fernando has been accepted

Cemetery of San Fernando, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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The article has been assessed as B-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a fantastic rating for a new article, and places it among the top 3% of accepted submissions — major kudos to you! You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Zanimum (talk) 14:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: DreamLab has been accepted

DreamLab, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Sulfurboy (talk) 03:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for creating Arco de Isabel II which I’ve just reviewed. Happy editing! Mccapra (talk) 15:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

	Maspalomas Lighthouse
	Many thanks for extending the article about Maspalomas Lighthouse, much appreciated...Jokulhlaup (talk) 10:54, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Ways to improve Nacional III

Hello, CommanderWaterford,

Thank you for creating Nacional III.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

There are two references, but one is filmaffinity and the other is a blog. There are better sources out there.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Eostrix}}. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~. For broader editing help, please visit the Teahouse.

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Eostrix (talk) 12:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello CommanderWaterford, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your additions to Pancho Amat have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

@Diannaa:, sorry but I think you are somehow wrong - this was a text translated 1:1 by the spanish article, it was marked as a translation and I do not see any copyright violation at all, furthermore you do not mention what exactly should be copied from. CommanderWaterford (talk) 13:40, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

The place where I found the similar content was https://dreamcatcher-events.com/tommyemmanuelsguitargetawayhavana. It's a promptional blurb of the type provided to performance venues by a musician's publisher. So I suspect that the material was added to the Spanish article by someone with a conflict of interest. Your translation must have come out similarly to the publicist's version for that reason.— Diannaa (talk) 13:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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GOCE May drive article list

Since the backlog is very low, any article you copyedit should be from the backlog (I see you've marked some as *O) or from the requests page. Many of the articles you're counting are not marked *R, so where are you getting them? The drive is limited to articles from the backlog or the requests page. All the best, Miniapolis 23:27, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Just a note to clarify, CommanderWaterford, please only mark entries in your section with *R when the article is the subject of a request at the GOCE's Requests page. If you're uncertain of the Drive's instructions, feel free to ask at its talk page. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 23:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Guys, I am working on articles which are listed under "Wikipedia articles needing copy edit" listed in the upper right corner of the current drive, I thought these are "requested pages", mea culpa, my fault. Will correct it. CommanderWaterford (talk) 06:48, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hitler's prophecy copyedit

Although I appreciate your effort, there are some issues which you should be aware of:

• It's important to pay attention to MOS:ENGVAR; in this copyedit you changed some American spelling to British spelling despite the fact that the article uses consistent American spelling.
• Please be careful not to modify direct quotes, as you did at least three times in the edit. (See MOS:QUOTE for the exceptions to this.)
• Try to avoid changing the meaning of the sentence, as you did by removing "under certain circumstances" in the last section of the article. (There are really only very specific circumstances where the sentence is true according to the source, so it needs the modifier.)
• Per MOS:OL, extant countries such as Hungary should not be linked.

Especially when working on articles that are up for FAC or GAN, it's important to avoid introducing errors during a copyedit. buidhe 08:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for paying close attention, anyway the direct quotes have been modified correctly. CommanderWaterford (talk) 08:54, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Mario Ponce and edit war

Being a speaker of parliament is not notable enough to be a Wikipedia article! Nancy Pelosi counts, but Mario Ponce do not. I have sent another two messages to Havechin. The edit war is so frustrating! Please help. Ppt2003 (talk) 18:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

He has already been reverted and warned by the sysops but indeed you should add realiable references to the article in the future, Wikipedia ES is btw not a reference. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Gracias senor. I look forward to your help. Ppt2003 (talk) 18:50, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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Wikimedia commons

Sorry to disturb you again, Mr. Waterford. I want to add images at articles by wikimedia commons. There should be five small links- and one of them should be use this file. But there are five links- file, file history, and so on. I asked this question at teahouse but when I tried to add photos the use the file option suddenly disappears. Please help. Ppt2003 (talk) 17:44, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ppt2003 - honestly I do not see your question at the Teahouse, i am unfortunately not quite sure of what you are referring to... did you check Help:Introduction_to_images_with_Wiki_Markup/1 ?! CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Copy edits to Divya Bharti

Hi, Have you completed work on Divya Bharti? If so, could you please change the "working" tag to "done" on the GOCE Requests page? Also, just FYI, once you are done it is likely that a senior member of the Guild will review the article and provide feedback, as we typically do when a newer member edits Request articles. Regards, Tdslk (talk) 04:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for updating the article's status on the Requests page. I did look over the article and make some additional changes, but it looks like the requestor made substantial changes shortly after you were done, and I think most of my changes were to the new text. As a reminder, you are encouraged to leave a template on the talk pages of the article and of the requestor when you are done with an edit; you can find them under "Instructions for copy editors" on the Requests page. Regards, Tdslk (talk) 17:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Tdslk, yes, he made unfortunately substantial changes and I noticed your changes, furthermore I checked some recent modifications from your side on other articles and I think I learned a lot from these ones. Thanks for reviewing. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

adding a photo and wikimedia commons

Well, I went to wikimedia commons and searched Mario Ponce. There is a link above the username named "use the file". In this case, there were five links- file,file history, use on wikimedia commons, use on other wiki and metadata. Where did use the file option disappear? And can you add a photo of Mario Ponce at the Wikipedia page using the photo at wikimedia commons? Please help me in this case. If I am failing at this thing, please add the photo of wikimedia commons. Ppt2003 (talk) 17:58, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Now I got it... well there are five tabs, File+File history+File usage on Commons+File usage on other wikis+Metadata but the problem here is that someone claims that this photo has a copyright... see the popup below.. so best would be you will contact the press office of him at https://www.asamblea.gob.sv/diputados/details/97810CEB-D11C-48BF-A4BD-394169B933EE and ask for allowance to use this photo on wikipedia. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:17, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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Cullen328/sandbox/Old Adobe

Hello CommanderWaterford,

You tagged my sandbox page for speedy deletion when I had only been working on it for a few hours. What's up with that? It should be obvious that I was gathering and formatting references to reliable sources in order to write an article about a building on the National Register of Historic Places which is indisputably a notable topic. Can you please explain your thinking on this matter? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

HiCullen³²⁸ - I am somewhat surprised about seeing your Sandbox as being displayed to me as a published and submitted (!) New Page in the New Pages Feed ... so I guessed it what a mistake of yours and I requested a speedy deletion. If it is indeed your sandbox page you are free to remove the tag, of course and I beg your pardon. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:38, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Uh, Cullen328, I think it was tagged because you accidentally created it in mainspace, not your userspace. I took the liberty of moving it accordingly. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I see now that I forgot the prefix "User:" so I apologize and thank you, Writ Keeper, for moving the page for me. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:03, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I'd asked you at the ECP page a question: have you previously edited Wikipedia under another account name? Wasn't sure if you got the ping. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Spanish Civil War

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Spanish Civil War you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Buidhe -- Buidhe (talk) 03:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Spanish Civil War

The article Spanish Civil War you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Spanish Civil War for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Buidhe -- Buidhe (talk) 03:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

About ChessBase India page

Hello, I think we have provided the best possible citation and refs for the webpage. We are genuine company who wants to create our page on Wikipedia for reaching out to Million chesslovers globally. There are so many sources out there which can lead to conclusion that ChessBase India deserves to be on wiki. Requesting you to help us create identity for the company. Thank you for your kind support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsagargcb (talk • contribs) 12:08, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you and request

	Gratitude
	Hi my friend! I recently created a page https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Anna_Barsukova / . But someone renamed it the https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Anna_Barsukova_(filmmaker) . Please tell me, friend, is it possible to return the original version?

Hi OlgaRABA, I am afraid but this is not the way Wikipedia works - you can find the article and its link at Anna_Barsukova_(filmmaker). Also have a close look at Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest. BR, CommanderWaterford (talk) 09:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I understand, my friend! Thanks for the answer.

Speedy deletions

Just as a note, if you see a page that is copied from an external source, such as at Lenrie Olatokunbo Aina, you should use the WP:G12 deletion tag, which is for copyright violations. WP:G6 is for when a page is "moved" from one title to another via copy/paste instead of properly moved. Primefac (talk) 14:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

How to..

You said that marking at the talk page is not sufficient. Well, I have added

on the talk page. Would you kindl y inform me What do you recommend me to do more?

Gracia's. Ppt2003 (talk) 18:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Sure Ppt2003, well as I wrote on your talk page you will need to follow the instructions on Wikipedia:HOWTRANS, I am missing the part "The new, translated article must credit the source article." :) ... but keep on the work, indeed there is a huge lack of good articles from Peru. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Re: I need someone to edit an existing article

Hello CommanderWaterford, I made an appeal for someone to help me and edit an existing article and you very kindly responded offering your help.

I wanted to reply to you and thank you for coming forward, I did have a couple of other people reply to me as well as your good self and have started a dialogue with one of them. It is very kind of you ....thank you again.Nulius in Verba13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by NULIUS IN VERBA 13 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Can you rerate the article about Region of Murcia, please?

CommanderWaterford,

This article was assessed with C-Class status some years ago, but a lot of information has been added to it. Therefore I think that a reassessment is convenient.

Regards,

--Yolanda95 (talk) 22:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC)Yolanda95

Buenas Yolanda95, puedes indicar me el enlace por favor!? :) voy a echar un vistazo... CommanderWaterford (talk) 06:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

--CommanderWaterford https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Region_of_Murcia

Recent WPCleaner edits

Hi there. I noticed your recent edits using WPCleaner are not really fixing the problems they were intended to fix – i.e. they have corrected one rogue section header, but erroneously subsectioned the subsequent sections; e.g. [1], [2], etc. Please can you double-check them? Regards. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 22:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Wjemather, thanks for notifying me, I will check them. CommanderWaterford (talk) 06:42, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Cool. I have already fixed several of the most recent ones. FYI, the majority of cases are simply erroneous "===" sub-sectioning of "References" & "External links", but a few have added an extra level to almost every section/sub-section! _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 10:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to bang on about this, but almost all of your edits on May 30 to correct section headers still need fixing: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31], [32], [33], [34].
I also noticed that some articles obviously just needed vandalism reverting rather than headers fixing (e.g. [35] "fixed" by [36]; [37] "fixed" by [38]; [39] "fixed" by [40] – this one from today). The same is probably true of others including some from May 30 not listed above that I skipped over due to only scanning resultant refs & ext links section headers. I have spot-checked a few from May 29 as notice the same issues. I have not gone any further back. Thanks. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 10:05, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Wjemather, Well you are of course free to fix any errors you find although I am somewhat irritated of you checking only my edits. My last Wpcleaner Edits had been double checked before sending and they fixed exactly what they stated for, of course there might be other errors which need to be fixed as well. CommanderWaterford (talk) 13:23, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry you feel that way, but please be assured that I am not singling you out for special treatment – anything that is symptomatic of wider issue grabs my attention, and your edit to Obsolete golf clubs (correcting one header while incorrectly changing two others) did just that. That concern is borne out by the numbers (well over 50 articles and a not insignificant percentage of your contributions). As per the above, at least one edit today did not fix the real problem (i.e. vandalism) only embedded it. Please be aware that careless use of tools & bots is a quick way to getting a block, and simply take extra care in verifying why the problem(s) you seek to fix exists, and that you haven't generated further problems. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 14:30, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Wishing CommanderWaterford a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 15:07, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Chris troutman, Thank you very much!! CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:57, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Ausar Auset Society

I fixed your warning.[Ausar Auset Society].[41] Doug Weller talk 15:53, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Commander Waterford

List of The Handmaid's Tale characters Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate} 19:21, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Ahhhhhhh.... yes, now I got it. Thanks. :) “Praise be” and “Nolite te bastardes carborundorum" !

May 2020 GOCE drive bling

		The Order of the Superior Scribe of Wikipedia
		This barnstar is awarded to CommanderWaterford for copy edits totaling over 80,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE May 2020 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 04:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Articles, 3rd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to CommanderWaterford for copyediting 51 articles during the GOCE May 2020 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 04:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Words, 3rd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to CommanderWaterford for copyediting 71,131 total words during the GOCE May 2020 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 04:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Long Articles, 5th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to CommanderWaterford for copyediting 3 long articles during the GOCE May 2020 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 04:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	thank you for explaining me about using the sandbox, i very much like the sandbox how it is useful to me for any other projects i work on myself Missnicky1991 (talk) 16:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Question on Speedy Deletion

Hi! I saw that you edited one of the pages that I created for speedy deletion. May I ask why it was marked for deletion? I am fairly new to editing on Wikipedia, and I have been trying to edit and write various articles, and I would like to know if I did anything wrong. Please let me know, thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BugsMeanee (talk • contribs) 18:39, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

BugsMeanee, you can read the explanation given at the Speed Deletion Tag A7, I quote it for you over here: "This applies to any article about a real person, individual animal, commercial or non-commercial organization, web content,[8] or organized event[9] that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant, with the exception of educational institutions.". CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, but what I don't understand is why did you mark it as a speedy deletion instead of letting me know that I should have included information on its relevancy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BugsMeanee (talk • contribs) 18:39, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Question About ShipMonk Submission

Hi CommanderWaterford,

Thanks so much for replying to my question regarding my submission (ShipMonk). I can understand why it could be seen as advertising, but, as I've previously mentioned, there's an article on Wikipedia about ShipBob, who is very similar in terms of size and function. It would be very helpful if I could get an answer as to why this submission was singled out and if there is anything I can do to fix it, or if it's just going to be rejected until, I'm assuming, ShipMonk grows as a company.

My intention when writing the article was not at all to advertise, but to inform. Order fulfillment is somewhat of a niche topic, American order fulfillment even more so, but ShipMonk is absolutely an important presence in that specific world and I believe a Wikipedia page would reflect that.

Thanks again for your availability and I look forward to hearing from you soon!

Edit: It seems as if ShipBob was taken off Wikipedia. Regardless, I would still really appreciate your advice in terms of how/when to resubmit again (if ever). Thanks again!

Beatanese (talk) 22:06, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: List of Indonesian national songs

Hello CommanderWaterford, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of List of Indonesian national songs, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Decline, not speed deletable, its a non copyrightable list. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Moneytrees🌴^{Talk🌲Help out at CCI!} 18:56, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Moneytrees, The list has a 80% copyright infringement given by Earwigs Copyvio Detector. Not only has been marked by me as copyvio, the patroller did the same. Clearly G12 markable. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

A high percentage doesn't guarantee a copyright violation; it's better to look at the amount of text highlighted as overlapping, and lists of proper nouns are non-copyrightable. Please only mark articles for G12 if it's a non-list and completely/mostly copied. Thanks, Moneytrees🌴^{Talk🌲Help out at CCI!} 16:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up

Hi, I'm just following up on our last email exchange. Never got a response. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:30, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

TonyBallioni, uhhh sorry Tony, honestly no idea what you were asking for, already deleted the email - but as far as I remember you did not expect anyone to help for my request.... br, CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Replied again :) TonyBallioni (talk) 19:40, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

TonyBallioni, replied also. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

• Since you requested a public response, sure: yes, this account is obviously not new, has requested multiple PERMS, and is actively editing in project space. The use in project space would be a violation of WP:PROJSOCK and the requests for PERMS is typically considered a violation of WP:SCRUTINY as admins need to be able to assess the whole history of an account before granting them. I'm not stalking you: I'm a CU and I work the PERMS area as well, and have other admin's talk pages on my watchlist. I saw the discussion on Primefac's talk, which reminded me that I needed to follow-up with you.
  If you have any prior accounts, they should be disclosed if you plan on continuing to get involved in backend stuff. You can do that to ArbCom or to an individual CU. You can also disclose publicly. This isn't a big deal, I didn't realize how disclosures worked when I created this account and edited undisclosed for a while: I abandoned my first account due to privacy reasons. But yes, new users popping up and requesting quick access to permissions that normally take months to get is going to raise eye-brows, and if you want the portions of the socking policy they raise eye-brows over, I've linked to them above. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

  TonyBallioni, well, I am somewhat shocked about your behaviour and I am honestly thinking about addressing this very seriously. Honestly I was told to be silent if you don't have to say anything nice but anyway....My eyebrow is raising very high if a sysop is stalking and responding like this only because I was asking for permissions (which nobody gave me, no problem at all). If this is the way Wikipedia tries to treat new diligent editors I am somewhat speechless. If you have any OBJECTIVE pointers for me being misusing any other given account (which is truly the biggest nonsense I read in the last couple of weeks here) you are always free to ask for a CU but I am sure there are ways to spend your time more effective. Primefac, for your info. If this is the answer/reaction for asking for an AfC Right please do not expect any new request at no time. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

  I think I responded clearly and said it wasn't a big deal if you hadn't because the procedures can be a bit confusing. I publicly asked if you had any previous accounts. This is a fairly normal practice. You responded privately, and I informed you of the need to disclose while also letting you know that it was unlikely we'd give you +extendedconfirmed early. I then saw your post on the talk page of another administrator, and it reminded me to follow-up about disclosing. I then did that and publicly explained my reasoning after you mentioned taking it public.

  Our policy does allow for legitimate use of alternative accounts. It also has an expectation of disclosure if those accounts are going to be used outside of editing articles or are going to be requesting permissions. That disclosure can be private. I admit that having an admin let you know about all this can be a bit intimidating, but there really isn't any other way to do it other than clearly explaining the rationale for the questions after you've said that you feel like you've been stalked.

  Like I said, this is a second account too, and I didn't disclose initially because I wasn't aware of the idea that you needed to do that if you wanted to do a lot of maintenance work. It's nothing against you personally, but we do ask these questions when a new account comes in and has over 4000 edits in a month and shows signs of having been here before. There can be a perfectly valid reason for that, which you seem to have, but we can only know if we ask the question. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:27, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

  Just going to chime in here to say that CommanderWaterford, you pretty explicitly told me that you have previously edited Wikipedia under a different account in an email following my decline of your request for new page reviewer permissions. At the time, I thought that it would be best to turn a blind eye, but I'm concerned that you appear to now be trying to present yourself as a genuinely new editor. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:33, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

  Rosguill, what a surprise that you find right now onto my talk page ;-) A rogue who thinks evil of it. I never claimed to be a new editor but I also said that it is years ago and it was not the English version. But again my question why exactly do you both think I am active with another account or abusing it? I'm very curious.

  With your tremendous backlog you would need every qualified help but I have no problem at all to wait although I really think of proposing a change to your rules, there should be the possibility of someone else than the sysops being able to review your decisions, it is not acceptable that only the same 2-3 sysops are deciding who is nice so that these ones get their requested permissions. CommanderWaterford (talk) 06:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

  If your prior experience was simply from having participated in a different language project, you could have just stated that from the beginning. And no, you didn't mention that in your email, what you said was I have seen a lot of bullshit done by users who have the NPP permissions for over years in the last 2 weeks and who tells you that I was at WK with a different user account a couple of years ago!? Well, I've been on Wikipedia long enough (by far more than these 2 weeks) to know that a WK administrator unfortunately will not change his mind. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

  Rosguill, still I do not see my question answered. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:43, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

  I think that it's very likely that you are evading a block, based on both your decision to respond to Tony's straightforward question with self-righteous deflection, as well as the emails you sent me. If you're not evading a block, you can clear this up real quick by disclosing your prior account. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 22:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

  Rosguill, well, this is still no answer - to summarize it - neither you nor Tony do provide any objective evidence that I am or could be misusing any prior account. It looks more like "Oh, this guy is doing a great job in only 4 weeks, how could this happen, we have to do something against this, please, please, search for some nasty reason to block him". This is damaging the project, also for a sysop. CommanderWaterford (talk) 07:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

So among other remarkable things you did for a new user, within a few days of arriving, you understood how to ping a user [42] how to built an infobox [43] and you understood a Wiki project class concept [44]? You've grasped all of that in just a few days? GizzyCatBella🍁 08:12, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

GizzyCatBella, ehm... seriously? ? ? Even much more :) This is pretty easy if you are able to read and wasn't it you who sent me the tutorials? CommanderWaterford (talk) 08:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Within 9 minutes you recognized me as the person sending you this [45] Very well, but there is nothing in the tutorials on how to and where to report a user. [46] How did you learn it in such a short time?GizzyCatBella🍁 08:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I am even aware of this over here after 30 seconds of googling, especially the last sentence, Wikipedia:Harassment#Wikihounding. Take care of your own business. CommanderWaterford (talk) 09:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

All the objective evidence I need is you yourself telling me that you're not new here and then refusing to comply with policy about disclosing former accounts. This is a hole you've dug for yourself. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:13, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi

I noticed that you came over to my talk page and called my edits 'disruptive' and 'unconstructive' could you please look and think before you decide to call someone out.-Thanks Ooh Saad (talk) 14:24, 16 June 2020 (UTC) Oh God, I looked at the rest of your talk page and you seem like a nice guy, so ignore the twat (me).

Ooh Saad, I better do forget it. CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:34, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

BDCS

You can use the following user script to add BDC greeting templates in users' talkpage.

• BDC Script (BDCS) (source)

Installation

• Copy and paste this in your common.js page.
  • {{subst:iusc|User:SD0001/BDCS.js}}

--PATH SLOPU 08:20, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Gerda Arendt‎

Ouch! You've used a template to send a message to an experienced editor. Please review the essay Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars or maybe listen to a little advice. Doesn't this feel cold, impersonal, and canned? It's meant in good humour. Best wishes. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Chris troutman, thanks for telling me what I did. I am absolutely aware of this, I explained it several times. CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Teahouse Host

Dear CommanderWaterford, thank you for volunteering as a host at the Teahouse. Wikipedia is a community of people working together to make knowledge free. You are an important part of that effort! By joining as a Host, and by following our expectations, you are helping new users get a hold of the ropes here at Wikipedia, and helping experienced users who just have a question about how something works. We appreciate your willingness to help!

Here are some links you may find helpful as a Host:

• Helpful scripts you can install to make Teahouse responding easier,
• templates to use and, of course:
• the question forum itself.

Editors who have signed up as hosts, but who have not contributed at the Teahouse for six months or so may be removed from the list of hosts.

I think it might be helpful if, as a Teahouse Host, you could fix your talk page so that other editors can find and read your archived posts.

Many thanks, and good luck. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I just saw you'd made the link to your talk page's archives visible and thought 'Great!' - but what you actually linked to wasn't quite what I had in mind! (e.g. Help talk:Archiving a talk page/Archive 5) Nick Moyes (talk) 20:53, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Nick Moyes, argh, copy&paste error early in the morning. Now it should be fine. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:02, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Yay! Well done. These things happen. (like, erm, yesterday, when, erm, I forgot to unlink Category:Candidates for speedy deletion and Category:Proposed deletion in a Teahouse reply I made...which, erm, ended up with the Teahouse appearing in both these category listings, all ripe and ready for a good deletion. Doh!) Nick Moyes (talk)

It is the age... ;-) BTW: Impressive number of climbed mountains. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:11, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Hey Commander, took me a minute to figure out how the messaging system works on this site, sorry about that. Thanks for welcoming me here, I hope to keep adding to Wikipedia over the future as I better get used to the mechanics of the site. I will mostly focus on gaming, but some other topics as well if I see the opportunity. Enjoy your brownie. Mr. Rapture (talk) 19:40, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Adrian David Cheok

Hello! I'm not a wiki-super user but wanted to adjust some items in the Adrian David Cheok page to reflect that he is not currently a professor at City University of London. My minor edits were removed. Is there more I need to do to have them reinstated? Cheers.

I am a little confused

You left this warning but I cannot see that the editor did this. Perhaps I missed it, but I looked at every revision since I accepted it. Fiddle Faddle 15:40, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Miles Kirkpatrick

I have recently created an article named "Miles Kirkpatrick". Do you think, as an article, Kirkpatrick is okay? I think it meets the notability guidelines of Wikipedia fairly. But I would be extremely gratified, if I get your kind opinion on my article. Ppt2003 (talk) 07:42, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

user:Logloginchen is

Hello, I am one of Chinese Wikipedia administrators. User:Logloginchen is one of User:Jessechi‘s puppetries and his vandalism in Chinese Wikipedia. He also liked to make false information in other Wikipedia. So I just undo his edit. For more information, please see

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:持续出没的破坏者/User:Jessechi

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Logloginchen

—Outlookxp (talk) 07:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Message

Hi there. I just reverted a pointy blanking/welcome message on your talk page, and noticed that you had placed a welcome message on their talk page 4 times – 3 of those were after they had removed it. You should be aware that contributors are free to remove such messages on their own talk page and you should certainly not be engaging in an edit war over them. It may simply be an error using the tools, in which case (as advised previously regarding other tools) please take more care. Thanks. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 09:24, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Wjemather, thanks, I see it but to be honest - I cannot believe that, I open each and every talk page before inserting a welcome tag - perhaps they deleted it, the page appeared blank, so I inserted it. Strange anyway. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:15, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks heaps for the birthday wish!!--Majash2020 (talk) 07:01, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Jadeja

If you want to change or delete something, give the appropriate source. The change you made on Jadeja was reverted to the status quo. Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 23:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

RE: Speedy deletion nomination of Paul Revere's Midnight Ride

As It can be seen in the edit summary, "Copied from https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&oldid=960607388#%22Midnight_Ride%22". The content in an old version, https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&oldid=737443645#%22Midnight_Ride%22 (2 September 2016), was written before the content in the Wordpress web you mention (https://mohammadsyedhusain.wordpress.com/2016/09/19/paul-revere/, 19 September 2016). So the Wordpress article is an unambiguous copyright infringement. Greetings. --Tajotep (talk) 17:37, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Tajotep, okay, now I understand. Sorry. I will undo the tagging. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Don't worry partner, we all make mistakes ;) Tajotep (talk) 00:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Sir, why my new article deletion page

Sir, NK Mondal is an indian famous poet writer and novelist. This page is true. Plesse Don't delete NK Mondal page. he known for india

দয়া করে আপনি পাতাটি মুছবেন না, কারণ এটি একটি ভারতীয় লেখকের পাতা। তিনি ভারতে অনেক পরিচিত। Azad Ali Molla1 (talk) 11:34, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Adrian David Cheok

Hello! I'm not a wiki-super user but wanted to adjust some items in the Adrian David Cheok page to reflect that he is not currently a professor at City University of London. My minor edits were removed. Is there more I need to do to have them reinstated? Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:1EDE:2400:B91D:FF71:9077:BFD5 (talk) 13:17, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Jack Buckby

You might be interested in checking the most recent section of the Jack Buckby talk page Rosswikieditor (talk) 17:38, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020

Don't revert to defamatory content as you did at Marine Le Pen. Make sure to check the revision first, please. xRENEGADEx ^{(talk | contribs)} 17:51, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

XRENEGADEx, you were only somewhat faster, I was in the process of restoring the last known good version. All good. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford Ok, thanks for letting me know! xRENEGADEx ^{(talk | contribs)} 17:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Strange Time

Hello dear CommanderWaterford This article Strange Time is not an advertisement. This is an independent exhibition created as part of a non-profit structure. Today it is one of the largest exhibitions in the virtual space, in which famous artists from around the world take part and which I was interested to write about for the Wikipedia audience. It was launched as a reaction to Covid-19 for the first time in Ukraine, so the bulk of the articles are in Russian and Ukrainian. It is also interesting that it will develop, replenished with new authors and works. All sources in the article are also independent. Thank you!--Art of Odessa (talk) 10:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Art of Odessa, You already addressed your concerns of the talk page of the article where they belong, no need to duplicate this. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:43, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford Great, thanks! And maybe you can help with this article Lucien Dulfan I think all is ok now. I have written some information + links --Art of Odessa (talk) 10:58, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello

What do you think about taking this article for this article for speedy deletion since it already exists and is undergoing discussion at Afd. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 10:01, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Oops! Just saw you tagged an earlier version for deletion, I think the new article still doesn’t establish notability of the subject, I’ll have to put it up at Afd again Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 10:04, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Samar College article

Good day! The article was made awhile ago. I am putting the sources when you suddenly move it to the draftspace. That is why the edits were unsaved and the article remained unsourced. Jsnueva1022 (talk) 09:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Jsnueva1022, well, it was displayed in the New Pages Feed as new, I did no see any revision and it has been completely without sources so in the Draftspace you can add sources and submit it again. CommanderWaterford (talk) 09:28, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay. I am working it now. Jsnueva1022 (talk) 09:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Removed CSD

Hi, I removed the CSD tag that you applied to Златко Живков. You used A3, but the article had content; it just wasn't in English. I've tagged the article for translation. Schazjmd (talk) 16:00, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Rosemary De Angelis

Hopefully OK, now. Yours. 2604:2000:EFC0:12:7922:1B66:98F2:E6E1 (talk) 17:22, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

How often does this happen?

Considering that it most definitely SEEMED like vandalism, I can fully understand why you reverted the edit to François Fillon article. However, it wasn't. The guy was convicted of fraud today and sentenced to five years in prison. The real question is why no one seemed to notice that the former head of Government of a major world power was on trial. Arglebargle79 (talk) 18:43, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Arglebargle79: First, CommanderWaterford was correct to revert because it was vandalism: it was the addition of unsourced criminal allegation in violation of WP:BLPCRIME. Perhaps you've forgotten that it doesn't matter what is true. As to your real question, why would you think some politician would be known worldwide by every Wikipedia editor? Are you really that out of touch with how diverse our editor base is? Please think twice before trying to correct someone when it is you who are wrong. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

"This section (WP:BLPCRIME) applies to individuals who are not public figures;" Françios Fillon was indeed a public figure. He was Prime Minister of France, and was the front runner for the French presidency in the last election as well. There are hundreds, if not thousands of people here who follow French Politics. There were people who were editing the articles dozens of times in the last few months. I was just wondering why no one noticed is all...Arglebargle79 (talk) 19:12, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

At the top of WP:BLP it says: "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." I should have pointed you to WP:BLPCITE, not BLPCRIME. Regardless, Wikipedia cannot claim someone is a convicted criminal without a proper citation. Adding such a claim without citation is vandalism. If you're wondering why you were the first to update the article, ask at WT:WikiProject France. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:39, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Well my Wikijaguar Chris troutman has by far more experience than I have but indeed I reverted it because it was absolutely unsourced. Imagine there would be a WK Article about Arglebargle79 and someone adds "he's a pedophile" without any source given... so I do not see any error at all. Thanks, Chris, for clarifying, had been busy the last couple of hours. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:25, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Faune Steward

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Rafał_A._Ziemkiewicz

Hello Commander Waterford, I have edited the Ziemkiewicz page because it contained libelous material. Indeed there was a claim made against Mr. Ziemkiewicz by his political opponents with respect to the book. However it is part of a larger campaign to silence dissenting voices by partisans masquerading as "anti rasist" forces. The accusation that Ziemkiewicz called the Holocaust a myth is blatantly untrue and libelous. Ziemkiewicz explains this situation in a subsequent interview: the polish word "mit" means "foundational narrative" and not "myth." Ziemkiewicz makes the point that the Holocaust is the foundational narrative for certain groups as a source of their legitimacy. To say that Ziemkiewicz called the Holocaust a "myth" outrageously misrepresents his statement. As such, the current entry either cannot remain, or must be corrected to show the political nature of the attack. I hope this is helpful to you. with warm regards

Don't let this editor fool you, see Talk:Rafał A. Ziemkiewicz § "Mit". Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 18:24, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Psiĥedelisto, thanks for the hint :) CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Gig Performer, revised

Hi CommanderWaterford,

Timtrent and I have edited my article so it's way better and ready to be accepted. Can you please take a look now? Timtrent says it would be better that someone else verify that article, since he is also engaged and contributed to that article; Timtrent also made some edits and gave me lots of useful tips and instructions to improve my article and make it ready to be accepted.

Cheers, Npudar (talk) 16:50, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Henry Tarzan Porter

Hi i have never added a comment on Wikipedia but I thought i would edit Henry Tarzan Porters page because I'm related to him he was my Great Grand Uncle He was also Related to former South Sydney Rabbitohs player Glen Porter Nathan W McCarthy (talk) 07:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

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July 2020

I made an edit to Survivor: Edge of Extinction in an attempt to bring the “voting history” section to attention; it looks all wonky. It is NOT vandalism, as I CLEARLY said to remove what I posted after the table was fixed, and I have no idea how to fix something like that. I HATE it when I try to follow rules of this lousy website and get treated like a troll. I have always strived to make constructive edits ONLY (though I can understand why reverting that edit had occurred because yes, it was unlike any other one that can be deemed as a positive change to the article), but PLEASE do NOT say I vandalized the article! That was FAR from my goal in this case, and it was frankly out of line. Stuff like that really hurts. After this, why don’t you just go ahead and block me from editing permanently? I’m sick of reverting real vandalism (e.g. removing a Survivor winner from a season’s info box until the season’s actual conclusion) from other trolls anyway. 96.231.250.80 (talk) 10:39, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Explanation for the changes

Hello.

Mr. Anand Teltumbde is an alumnus of Visvesvaraya National Institute of Technology (B.Tech, Mechanical Engineering, 1973) and an accomplished professor.

He is mentioned under the 'Others' section of notable alumni.

Being a renowned professor, shouldn't he be mentioned under the 'Researchers and Academics' of notable alumni, instead of 'Others'?

This is the exact change I was trying to implement.

Please reconsider your decision to overturn the change made by me.

If you wish, you can make the above suggested change yourself. I will be most obliged in that case.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.35.215.226 (talk) 20:44, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Carried Interest Page

Hi! You recently reverted my edits to the Carried Interest page for being a deletion without explanation (I think automatically). If you look at the edit, it is not a deletion, it's a move of some content from the intro section to a more relevant section below. My edit summary notes that. Sorry, I wasn't logged in at the time, I don't know if that contributes to the auto-revert. Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding the issue-- this page is pretty confusing and messy (and had some flatly inaccurate statements), so I'm working on cleaning it up. Heliopolisfirebirdii (talk) 13:44, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Remove Speedy Deletion Message from my Talk Page

My dear friend CommanderWaterford, recently you tagged an article for speedy deletion (Bisher Doshok (rock band)) but you posted this message on my talk page while i am not the creator of the article. I also moved this article to draft space. I know it is not your fault, this is all due to Twinkle software. There is something that need to fix in Twinkle software. DMySon 11:19, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

About Royal Malaysian Air Force

Dear CommanderWaterford, Hope you can refer talk page and history. Concensus already achived by other editor to avoid duplication table or redundant work. Thank You. GlobalEditorEx (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlobalEditorEx (talk • contribs) 12:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

WP:DTTR

You would well to read WP:DTTR. Praxidicae (talk) 18:42, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Also I seriously have to question your competence with edits like this and subsequent warnings to editors. I suggest you stop doing whatever you think antivandalism work is and actually look at what vandalism is. Praxidicae (talk) 18:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

July 2020

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Please refrain from abusing warning or blocking templates, as you did to User talk:Number 57. Doing so is a violation of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Thank you. ——Serial ^# 17:56, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Two pages for you to read ——Serial ^#: Wikipedia:Harassment and Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks, obviously you have some kind of personal problems with my edits (btw: also a real violation of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CommanderWaterford (talk • contribs) 14:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Waterford, let's not get carried away, here. I can understand you don't appreciate being criticized. All criticism of a person is not a personal attack. I, too, template regulars because the words I choose to write are often seen as uncivil. It's a norm on this project, though, to not template established editors just because you over-rely on Twinkle. I don't want to see this little kerfuffle turn into a trip to a drama board, so let's just agree that we disagree on some things. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Chris troutman, so far I really appreciated if you make attention to mistakes I did perhaps. If I regulated an experienced editor via Twinkle then this was a clear mistake and I regret it. But what the User Serial Number did is a clear insulting of my person and my work I did so far here for this project (btw: Twinkle is not "automated", I have a view on every edit I make, loootsss of hours in the last couple of weeks and each and every editor can expect respect for his work here, which is clearly missing by this user. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:45, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Final warning

I was very close to blocking you for this potion of the WP:CLEANSTART policy:

• You are responsible for editing in a manner that respects community norms of behavior and avoids association with disputes or poor behaviors that you might have been involved with under your former account.

You have disclosed that you have a prior account, but not it’s name. I’m not going to press that issue because you might have a valid privacy concern. What isn’t allowed is continuing of behaviour that likely would have gotten the previous account sanctioned (namely competence issues surrounding our behavioural norms for how we interact with other editors.) Slow down and focus on content. You’re getting in over your head. I’ve seen where this path leads, and it’s usually to enthusiastic younger editors being asked to leave. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

TonyBallioni, honestly I have no idea what you are talking about - WP:CLEANSTART ?? Why should I need a cleanstart?!??

Are you able at least to identify which edit of my person are you referring this time? I already told you if it makes you happy you can always do a CU of my account.

You constantly insinuate things without being able to present any proof, highly dubious. I made a mistake templating your sysop colleague, yes, I already excused myself. I would invite whoever is free from sin to cast the first stone. But nevertheless I am expecting more respect for someone who made over 12.000 edits for this project. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

You made more than a mistake templating an admin, as I pointed out here which you ignored. You also used tools inappropriately and aren't taking responsibility for the edits made doing so. I can point out a long string of really bad, careless edits you've made if you'd like but I suggest re-reading the message I also left you and stop playing the anti-vandalism game, you're not very good at it. I am expecting more respect for someone who made over 12.000 edits for this project like the same respect you showed to an editor with 120k edits? Praxidicae (talk) 19:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Well also some Praxidicae would need to explain in the Edit Summary why he removed content or am I wrong. Very funny to see that because of some of my 12.000 Edits were in your eyes not correct I am not very good at editing, quite insulting. If this is the way you guys like to treat new editors I am not surprised about the press asking why Wikipedia is loosing so many contributors. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:10, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

The fact that you don't understand the difference between correcting a category and content removal really makes me think you shouldn't be editing at all. You don't get to claim to be a "new editor" when you're a.) a clean start and b.) manage to rack up 12k edits and demand "respect" because of your history here. Pick one. You're either experienced or you're inexperienced and need to listen to what people tell you. Praxidicae (talk) 19:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Praxidicae, I did and I do listen very well to what people are telling me, if they tell it to me politely and Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith but anyway, honestly thanks for the hint/explanation. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:33, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, step away for a couple hours, come back and take another look at the feedback here. Your intentions are good, you've made some mistakes, from what I can see you're accepting some responsibility but emotions are high. Some extremely experienced editors are trying to help you. My advice is to go outside for a walk or something. I can imagine this is a bit overwhelming and that's perfectly human. Glen 20:09, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

You have disclosed to Rosguill and myself privately that you’ve previously had another account without telling us the name. To be honest that’s fine by me in this case so long as you don’t go around causing problems. You just have a template warning to an admin and an extremely experienced editor and then reverted one of them when they criticized you, claiming it was a personal attack, when it was not. I can respect you as a person while also letting you know how close to the line you are treading. Anyway, you’ve been warned. The point of a warning is to avoid blocking someone by letting them know they have things they can change. I hope this is the end of it. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:06, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

TonyBallioni, I repeat myself, you can always do a CU (although I would prefer that someone else - who was not investigated till now - would do this) and surely after some kind of blocking we would discuss this in the next instance. I am not causing problems - I make mistakes, yes, for sure - that is pretty normal for human beings with 200 edits/day -- 99% of them absolutely fine anti-vandal reverts. I excused myself almost half an hour ago, I am sure you checked the logs. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

CU cannot prove innocence because of the nature of the tool, and en.wiki policy actually prohibits us from using it on self-request to prove someone isn’t a sock. It also doesn’t really matter since we already know you have previously had an account (or that you were lying to two admins by claiming you did.) That means our standards here are going to be a bit higher.

Anyway; my warning above stands. You really should slow down. Perhaps the solution is to not make 200 edits a day. Just food for thought. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:24, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

my recommendation

I took a quick minute to research what the issue was. Suffice to say, you reverted an admin with a semi-automated tool claiming "unexplained removal of content" when that admin did, in fact, leave an edit summary. If you didn't understand their edit summary then you should have asked them for clarification. As you are a CLEANSTART account, I worry that you still have the same issues influencing you now that led to leave your prior Wikipedia account. I also note that you seemed to very quickly become defensive when other editors disagreed. We always need good countervandals protecting our encyclopedia but when countervandals make simple mistakes, the content creators will be unhappy. Serial Number 54129‎'s criticism of you points to that: a dislike of how you spend your time on wiki. No one is condemning you as a worthless editor. This was just one mistake that you reacted to badly. I think the best thing for you to do is perhaps slow down your editing and consider not using semi-automated tools like Twinkle and RedWarn. Instead, you could restrict your editing to blatant vandalism and avoid grey-area cases. You could spend more time on finding sources for articles or working any of our other maintenance backlogs. WP:GOCE always needs help. There are also sister projects like Commons and Wikidata where you could contribute and perhaps broaden your activity. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:32, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Chris troutman, usually I appreciate your ideas but here we do disagree in total, I am btw not a WP:Cleanstart, far away from this. A Cleanstart Account would mean that I went disgracefully but that is totally nonsense and my account is almost over 8 years old with perhaps 30 edits :) :) Unfortunately I don’t have that much time in my life to check each and every edits of you guys in your beginnings to be sure that there had been absolute no error at all. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:43, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Chris troutman, PS: The Edit of the sysop had an Edit Summary ("(Best to avoid tbh)"), yes, but it did not explain to me (and I am sure to 99% of all other readers) why he removed it. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

It's obvious why he removed it and the edit summary says as much. I disagree with his removal, too, but being a longterm editor here means having the good sense to be extra nice when you take issue with what fellow editors do. This website is political, like anything else. You have to think about who you're going to anger and why. I've appreciated your edits here but, going forward, if you don't like our customary methods then you need to find somewhere else to edit. You haven't earned enough credit with the community to get away with what you did. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:52, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Chris troutman, the funny thing about this is that almost everyone complained about this revert but not the person concerned himself :) For me it is still not clear why he removed it...but anyway. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:20, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

A Cleanstart Account would mean that I went disgracefully No. A clean start is only granted to users in good standing. If you left disgracefully, you're not entitled to a clean start. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 19:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Horace Carter Hovey

Thank you for the rebuke, and for the gentleness of it. I am myself an explorer and historian of the Mammoth Cave system, as well as a sometime Wikipedia editor. Hovey is indeed a notable figure in the history of 19th century American travel writers, particularly with an eye towards American caves, but I acknowledge that my initial article did not convey that. I will work on the draft as you suggested: it should not be difficult to amass sufficient citations to satisfy the requirement of notability. Alan Canon (talk) 09:36, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

WikiLoop Battlefield new name vote

Dear CommanderWaterford,

Thank you for your interest and contributions to WikiLoop Battlefield. We are holding a voting for proposed new name. We would like to invite you to this voting. The voting is held at m:WikiProject_WikiLoop/New_name_vote and ends on July 13th 00:00 UTC.

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Discretionary sanctions alert and warning

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Look, CommanderWaterford, this is twice in two days that I've seen you edit war over the insertion of BLP violations to articles of respective subjects. I'm letting you know that unless you slow down, WP:ARBBLP sanctions may be imminent. Thanks. El_C 13:47, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

El C, honestly I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I have not received any Diffs nor warnings, nothing - not from you not from somebody else. Would you mind enlighten me to what you are referring? CommanderWaterford (talk) 13:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I thought you got the pings, but I guess not...? Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Andrew_Cuomo_sexual_harassment_allegations (diff attached), Ibrahim Muhammad Salih al-Banna (diff). El_C 13:59, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Well El C, Regarding the first example: The Edit (only one at all btw) had been reverted me via Huggle because the Editor added dubious info w/o providing any source at all so I assumed a WP:BLPCRIME VIO (and I still do btw). The second had been reverted several times because the Editor misformatted the Infobox Templates and did not provide any source at all for his modifications, last Edit was "Here is your proof" without providing any source at all (the editor was tagged with an extremely high ORES Bad Faith Score at all by the way). I have not received from no-one any warning or even complain and I would say that those were absolute valid anti-vandal work, far far away from EW. CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:12, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, this is a BLP —not an EW— matter, pertinent edits of which on your part are your responsibility, regardless of these sort of justifications. Your edit at BLPN was overturned by a different admin as a BLP violation, while with al-Banna, I myself have deemed it a BLP violation. If you're unable to edit more judiciously with respect to certain BLP matters, perhaps it's best just to refrain when in doubt, leaving these for others. El_C 14:19, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Well, as already explained I was not in doubt at all and I am pretty aware of all BLP Policies, stop assuming of me not editing in good faith. CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Well, you should have been is my point. And I'm assuming no such thing, but your reflexively defensive response does not inspire confidence, I'm sorry to say. El_C 14:49, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Sometimes it could be very constructive not to have too much confidence in each others works although till now I thought not having reason to be in doubt in yours. Have a nice day anyway. CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, please just chill, okay? The warning has been issued, try to be cognizant of what it cautions against. I could do without the snark. In light of your subpar responses, I am logging it for extra emphasis. El_C 16:01, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I am pretty chilled - I made several ten thousand edits to improve this encyclopaedia - hundreds of them at BLP Articles - here the last couple of months and now you are logging me of being "more mindful with BLPPolicy" because of 2 or 3 edits - which are highly doubtable at all. I better leave this without any further comment. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:23, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

CW, it can be frustrating but just calm down and move on, your back and forth with El_C isn’t necessary. Celestina007 (talk) 16:33, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007, Until today I thought El C was one of the most competent administrators here but I generally have a problem with Sysops who are telling me to chill and in the same way are logging "sanctions" against me just because I did not react the way they expected, looks more like some kind of punishment. The Issue is that they protected this special page against Vandalism because I requested so and this - very fishy - IP User complained immediately wherever he could and they had to explain themselves. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:10, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Negative, CommanderWaterford, I did not protect it against vandalism per se., rather, this was a logged WP:AP2 protection (diff). El_C 18:20, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

El C, do I see it right that I need to go the "arbitration enforcement noticeboard" to get your logging reverted? I left a comment on your talk page - a complete new IP Editor, perfect in WK Jargon, goes directly to this special article, further complains and reports me on several occasions without pinging me only once (btw you did not ping me either!) at the well-known BLP Noticeboard in complete awareness of the processes there... well, I am not a sysop but on my site it makes alert bells ring and the whole procedure looks pretty fishy. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, I don't think I've ever seen an appeal for a logged warning in all my years of being active at WP:AE. As far as I can tell, it isn't a thing. But, you do whatever you see fit. I don't really care to advise you on that further beyond that note. Again, I would not have logged the warning in the first place had you responded appropriately to me raising these BLP lapses (which would not have precluded you questioning these edits as lapses, either). Also, in your borderline WP:FORUMSHOP edits (and here), you keep using WK — I presume you mean WP, as in Wikipedia...? Otherwise, not sure what is meant by that. El_C 18:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

El C, I did not ask about your experience, I asked if this would be the right board to do so and I interpret this as a "Yes". Thank you. And please stop threatening, that is ridiculous and somewhat undignified. I could almost be of the opinion that you are hounding my contributions, yes WK like WiKipedia or WP like WikiPedia - choose as you are up to, I just notified AfC Fellows that I will stop my contributions. Do you have any explanation why you did not ping me having the conversation with the IP Editor in this - you called it - EW ?! CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:20, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, I acknowledge having read your message, but I have nothing further to add at this time. El_C 18:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I will add that I encountered both pages by way of RfPP (diff diff). Also, I am an uninvovled admin, so if I were to review your edits, that would not count as hounding. But, at the event, I didn't. El_C 18:26, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

WikiLoop 2020 Year in Review

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Dear editors, developers and friends:

Thank you for supporting Project WikiLoop! The year 2020 was an unprecedented one. It was unusual for almost everyone. In spite of this, Project WikiLoop continued the hard work and made some progress that we are proud to share with you. We also wanted to extend a big thank you for your support, advice, contributions and love that make all this possible.

Head over to our project page on Meta Wikimedia to read a brief 2020 Year in Review for WikiLoop.

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Discord

Hey fellow AFC reviewer. Are you familiar with WP:DISCORD at all? It's pretty active. I hang out in the #english-wikipedia channel. You seem as wiki addicted as I am, so could be fun :-) –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:07, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2021-12

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Protests against the imprisonment of Pablo Hasél, you may be blocked from editing. I wish you to document / watch / seek consensus first instead of disruptive editing. You have been pinged several times with proper arguments and you kept reverting my edits, so your editing looks like being disruptive. All the best, Laocon (talk) 12:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hi CommanderWaterford, Citations for Tom Bertram updated as requested - https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Tom_Bertram_(singer/songwriter)#Tom_Bertram_%28singer%2Fsongwriter%29

If you need anything else to be satisfied with this article please let me know, MayerJames

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayerjames (talk • contribs) 12:01, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi CommanderWaterford,

Please could you help me with an understanding on which references need changing on my page creation for https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Tom_Bertram_(singer/songwriter)? I have realised that "Shawn Mendes" has a misspelling which I will correct on resubmission along with changes you require.

Many thanks, I hope you are well! MayerJames.

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The Commander has been here for much longer than you, why are you welcoming him KirkburnFandom?--Astral Leap (talk) 08:55, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

I know that but nobody left him a welcome message at the top of his talk page. Sorry about that though. KirkburnFandom (talk) 10:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

KirkburnFandom, oh there had been some a long time ago but contents of a talk page can (and should) be archived, see WP:ARCHIVE, anyway I appreciate it. Thanks. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome. Thanks. Sorry about that. KirkburnFandom (talk) 10:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Eyeswideopen123

Reason for revert: Remove controversy section in accordance with Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article advice : Structure : What not to include: "School articles must be balanced, and not give undue prominence to events outside the control of the school, that have involved staff or students." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyeswideopen123 (talk • contribs) 00:39, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

George Burdi

I have a vast knowledge of musicians and bands- their chronology, discography, personal lives, etc.- and I pay attention to detail, only making edits that I am 100% sure are accurate. For most of my edits on Burdi, like those on other musicians, I suggest you to perform a shallow perusal of the internet, which will verify the accuracy of some of the information I present. Certainly such a perusal will not verify the truth of anything I've deleted, as it's all untrue.

A more important question than why I deleted lies from his page would be: Why were the lies there to begin with? The band RaHoWa disbanded in 1997. That's a fact of history. Just because a contributor cited a journalist who made up out of thin air that Mr. Burdi resumed performing with RaHoWa in 2017 doesn't make it so. To be honest, I am embarrassed to even have to have this conversation. You apparently are in a position somewhere up the hierarchy of Wikipedia editors. You should want your site to have integrity. The fact that Wikipedia does not have factual integrity is the reason many people do not come here, but instead go elsewhere to research.

George Burdi has been openly practicing Hinduism for more than two decades. Why did you not want that on there? He was the co-founder and co-owner of Resistance records. Why do you want it to say he owned it solely? Why do you not want his marriage on there? He is a credited songwriter on Dimple Sharma's album 'Urban Monk'. She is the "Dee" who was his fiance on the VH1 special that documented him. That program is no longer on YouTube, so I can't cite it as a reference.

I changed "white nationalism" to "racism" because the term "white nationalism" was only popularized within the past decade. When Burdi renounced racism in 1997, all press and media used the term "racism". It is therefore erroneous to take a modern buzz word and quote people from earlier times as having renounced it. There are many publications still online from back in the aughts that mention what they term his "renunciation of racism". Not a one says he "renounced white nationalism".

Novacosm never covered "Ode To A Dying People". George Burdi did, as a solo artist. Reading such falsehoods hurt my eyes, so I tried to change it.

If Wikipedia does not allow people to remove false information and add true, interesting, and relevant basic facts about the lives of public figures, your reputation will continue to plummet.

Garthchesney (talk) 07:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

1804 United States presidential election in Tennessee

There is an "1804 election in New York" page that doesn't have sources... why is it accepted? xdude (talk) 19:48, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Xdude gamer, it was not a page I have reviewed obviously, I reviewed yours which does not have any sources at all. Please see also WP:OTHER. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:50, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. Makes sense. xdude (talk) 20:08, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Cabayi (talk) 07:37, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Smoker's Paradox

Hello,

I have restructured the AfC draft of Smoker's Paradox. Please review.

Regards, SloppyTots (talk) 20:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Edit of ahiwasi

I have credible sources to edit this page. Please allow me to edit page. Rajubhaisahb (talk) 23:24, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Jordan Botelho & Draft:Shay Wize

Hello, Commander,

Just a reminder to always check the edit history before tagging stale drafts. Every time. I'm not sure how you edit but a problem can arise if you open up a lot of drafts in tabs in your browser because you anticipate tagging them later. I've found some editors going in during the last hours before drafts reach G13 status to make a minor edit to prevent deletion so even if a draft appeared on a G13 eligible list or category a couple of hours ago doesn't mean that it still should be tagged for deletion at the time you look at it.

I've found a few problems with your taggings and Admins want to trust that you've thoroughly checked out pages before tagging so it isn't necessary to recheck your work. You'll find it builds trust and confidence that others have in the quality of your editing work.

You've racked up so many edits in a short period of time that you might want to slow down and pace yourself. On Wikipedia, accuracy is MUCH more important than speed or edit counts. Thanks again for all your work. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Well Liz, your message does surprise me since I do get my CSD G13 directly from a query of the WK database based on the last edit time stamp perhaps a minute or two before tagging them for CSD, honestly a perfect task for a bot anyway. I hardly doubt that of my 30-40 CSD G13 yesterday one of them was edited in between those 2 or 3 minutes. Even if this would be the case the draft was de facto stale for 6 months like it has been in your first example. Your second example surprises me a lot. I will stop tagging CSD G13 immediately if someone is accusing me of doing so just to raise an EC - speaking of not being accurate because of a few errors in several ten thousand edits seems somewhat exaggerated. CommanderWaterford (talk) 07:30, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Request on 15:06:48, 20 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by TomRoad-1

• TomRoad-1 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Domoticz (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi CommanderWaterford, I completely reworked Draft:Domoticz, resolving all copyright issues and adding significant, reliable, independent secondary sources. Is there anything else I can do to make the draft acceptable? Thanks for your time and assistance. TomRoad-1 (talk) 15:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

TomRoad-1, I am afraid but right now I don't think that any reviewer will accept your draft, your draft is full of primary sources (like google play which is btw not even a source at all), please read WP:RS and WP:NSOFT . CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:16, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Liara Roux

Did this article being moved into the draft just because of the citations? If I submit some more sources it is enough? I would not like to write a longer article. There are many articles from her and some articles about her. Some of her informations are mentioned on her sex worker website and I thought it is not a good idea to link this on wikipedia. In my opinion there are not so many articles about sex worker on wikipedia. I would like to change this a bit.--Citrustree (talk) 12:41, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

May I have a question: Do you think the article is ready now? I added citations. If you say "yes" I would just add something more a little bit. But it is important to know if I am right.--Citrustree (talk) 22:17, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Does the other reviewer move the article back to the draft if something is missing or will he or she delete it? Hopefully not.--Citrustree (talk) 22:23, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@Citrustree Most probably they will either accept or decline it - in the latter case you can improve and resubmit it. But please be patient, there are currently almost 6,000 AfC Submissions in review...it can take some time, in the worst case several months. CommanderWaterford (talk) 22:29, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Citrustree, the draft had not been submitted, but I have had a look at it. I left a comment on it for you. I'd love to be able to accept it, I see this as a wholly valid and under represented category of biography. If you can reference it better I think it will fly Fiddle Faddle 23:08, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent👍 CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:21, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Vernon Jones

I actually didn't remove any content, I simply condensed repeated information. The introduction twice mentioned he was a former Democrat who endorsed Trump (I condensed it to one sentence) and twice listed the offices he held (I condensed it to the opening line). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.68.52 (talk) 20:49, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

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Protests against the imprisonment of Pablo Hasél

Hello @CommanderWaterford:,

I dropped the "partof" line of the infobox from Protests against the imprisonment of Pablo Hasél. As I indicated in my edit summary, I removed that line since there is not any clear reference that states those protests against Pablo Hasél imprisonment are related to the Catalan independency movements, but rather to a debate on free speech all over Spain. For this reason, I think your edit should be restored, or at least explain / defend why such information should be added. If needed, I can mention this in the talk page of the aforementioned article.

Thanks! Laocon (talk) 16:04, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Bugs Bunny's Birthday Ball

Hi, CommanderWaterford. I was wondering what your rationale was for approving the draft Bugs Bunny's Birthday Ball. While the prose and formatting are good, there's only one source, and that's TV Tropes, which is essentially just a wiki. Per step 2 in WP:AFCR: "If what is written in the submission meets the notability guidelines (WP:BEFORE turned up basically nothing for me, but we'll pretend that's the case), but the submission lacks references to evidence this, then the underlying issue is inadequate verification and the submission should be declined for that reason."

As best I can tell, this just shouldn't have been approved and should be promptly moved back into the draftspace, unless this glaring issue can quickly be remedied in the mainspace. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 22:51, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

TheTechnician27, indeed, several weeks ago, one of my first ones of the last 200 and definitely not the best one. WP:BEFORE for Bugs Bunny Pinball Game returned several books mentioning it but indeed not this special one. CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of DreamLab for deletion

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Taung Tan (talk) 11:24, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

The AfD nomination directly after asking restrictions for your account is far away from WP:AGF but in the meantime it has been speedy closed by an Administrator. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:21, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of AMC AMX III

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A kitten for you!

greetings commander waterford, am Michael a journalist from Nigeria, please can we be friends on whatsapp? +2348163120319

Gracemicnaij (talk) 12:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Draftifying Jyothikumar Chamakkala

I draftified an article you accepted because it lacks inline citations and seems to fall short of notability requirements. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Jmcgnh, I am sorry but the amount of ILCs were sufficient based on WP:MINREF and the subject is a member of the Indian National congress - what exactly made you believe to move it back to Draft ? CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:19, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Indian National Congress is a political party, not a legislative body. As best I can tell, Chamakkala has not been elected to hold an office in a national or state legislative body. But Indian politics are sufficiently different from anything I'm familiar with that perhaps having a high position in a party is considered sufficient. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

{after edit conflict) Now, I'm not in favour of draftifying any articles when nobody has committed to improving tham, but I must point out that the Indian National Congress is a political party, not a legislative body. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Phil Bridger, On IRC, we do have an engaged (COI) editor who is very much committed to bringing the article up to standards. But he admits that the bulk of the information in the article was provided to him by the PR team for Chamakkala and is otherwise unverified. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Jmcgnh, well he is also a General Secretary of this party but I agree, Indian Politics are very difficult to understand sometimes - so yes, in this case I agree and I apologise, thanks for noticing. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Saki Shimizu

No Revert. Citation Attached.--2001:240:2974:B600:8534:33F8:C19E:EB57 (talk) 12:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Leanne Battersby

Hi, thanks for leaving a message, I decided to update the article as the information under “Return” belongs in the “Prostitution” category as the dates match up more accordingly, as such with the “Relationship with Nick Tilsley” section. Sorry if this sounds confusing. Let me know if you’re unsure. 2A02:C7F:B655:E400:4161:6A74:D9C3:BA5 (talk) 12:10, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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Carlos Abril

I've added a couple more secondary references to Carlos Abril. Is it okay now? Carxofes fregides (talk) 16:43, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Request on 13:22:42, 5 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Xspd

• Xspd (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Geradine Wilhelmine Christine Harthoorn (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Do you want more (independent) references or anything else? I've done some quick researches via google, and found some more references (will be added at short time at the draft submission), total sum of references will be about 10. Some are book reviews to the author's books. A short list of additional references:

• book review, Irmelin Ramme, University of Hamburg, NOAG 121/122.1977, 1977, https://www.oag.uni-hamburg.de/noag-archiv/noag-121-122-1977/rez-7.pdf
• The Quest, Volume 5, Theosophical Society in America, 1992
• book review, Yasuo Nakano, University of Asia, Tokyo, History of European Ideas Vol. 17 Issue 1, Elsevier, Jan 1993
• William H. Tucker, The Science and Politics of Racial Research, University of Illinois Press, 1996, ISBN 0-252-06560-3
• Roger M. Garrett, Education and Development, Routledge Library Editions, Nov 2010, ISBN 9781136870941
• Nigel West, Historical Dictionary of British Intelligence, Scarecrow Press, 2014, ISBN 9780810878976
• Nigel West, At Her Majestys Secret Service, Frontline Books, Jun 2016, ISBN 9781848328952
• Wilbur Crane Eveland, Ropes of Sand: America's Failure in the Middle East, Open Road Media, Jul 2018, ISBN 9781504050050

The writer G.Harthoorn has published here books by the name 'Géryke Young' (Geryke is here nickname, Young is the name by marriage, the birth name was Geradine Wilhelmine Christine Harthoorn).

She is the wife of George Kennedy Young (leading employee of the british intelligence service, e.g. SIS, MI6), i found the following reference at Nigel West, Historical Dictionary of British Intelligence, discussing the last years of the political career of G.K.Young: '...Young also moved into the political arena, considerable influenced by his wife, Geryke, who came from the Dutch East Indies...'. I think this may explain also the last years of the life of G.K.Young, of course after the study of the books of G.Harthoorn/Young.

Additional question: How i can make an alias resp. reference link to find the entry G.Harthoorn also by searching for Geryke Young??? If anyone is searching by the writer's name...

Any other questions?

Xspd (talk) 13:22, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Xspd (talk) 13:22, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@Xspd What is needed is coverage about the author herself - not about her works, a listing of her works does not establish notability. Have a look please at Wikipedia:Notability (people). CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:08, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

UCL Press

Hi, thanks for your welcome messages on my talk page. I thought you might be interested to know that my editing on Wikipedia has come to a quick end unfortunately. I sought in good faith to create an article on UCL Press, and it was almost immediately deleted back to a redirect, with no attempt to discuss, in a high handed and even aggressive manner. I can see already Wikipedia editing is controlled by long established editors, to battle against this will simply be a exhausting drain on time and energy. Sad but that's how it looks. TopkapiMusik (talk) 16:24, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@TopkapiMusik As far as I see @Onel5969 already explained to you what happened so no need for me to repeat this. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:33, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

"Ndamira Catherine Atwakire (Q105883492)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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About Uday Mandal reference

https://m.livehindustan.com/bihar/madhubani/story-demonstrated-against-inflation-and-unemployment-3937699.amp.html This is the famous newspaper "Hindustan" reference for Uday Mandal. Another reference of dailyhunt [LINK REMOVED - Blacklisted, bot can't archive with link] Uday88mandal (talk) 08:37, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

http://udaymandal.in/ Uday88mandal (talk) 08:39, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Sir Added many references to support article in Uday Mandal page. Thank you Uday88mandal (talk) 06:58, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Young Southeast Asian Leaders Initiative (YSEALI)

Hi! Can you please check again if this is sufficient Draft:Young Southeast Asian Leaders Initiative (YSEALI)? It's quite the same with Young African Leaders Initiative

VTC Digital Television moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, VTC Digital Television, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:57, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Onel5969 Twinkle, Twinkle, not my article ;) CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:58, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, lol.... you sent the original article to a draft, then it was recreated, but you're listed as the first editor. Apologies for the template. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Talk page access temporarily restored

I have re-enabled your talk page access for the duration of the discussion at AN regarding your request to have your community ban lifted. Please bear in mind, this is SOLELY for responding to questions you may have from the community, and if it is seen that the talk page is being used for purposes other than this, it will be rescinded immediately. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Response to @Moneytrees: @Pawnkingthree: @Celestina007: regarding their Concerns

I definitely forgot to mention that I did not only made several mistakes by wrongly tagging translated articles but indeed also copy-violated some articles. This is in the end actually inexcusable - the community can with good reason expect that especially experienced editors who by themselves tagged dozens of articles for copy-violating take better care of this.

You are totally right concerning my first block - at this time I was in Spain in one of the hardest covid lockdowns in the world, lost all of my income and my frustration about my life did leave by far too many footprints in my editorial behaviour many times (not only with TonyBalloni). I seeked my meaning of life in editing - I did several thousands edits a week, was one of the most active editors for several months if I am not totally wrong and so got very easy upset. I accepted critics more than once - many, many times off-wiki from several Admins who helped me or noticed me about issues but after a time you just think "Hey, I make several hundreds edits a day and so I am sure I do know it better, I do not need to accept critics" -- which of course is totally nonsense.

Finally I do not want to see it as a block-unblock cycle - if I would see it like this I would have asked for an unblock by far earlier and honestly I was thinking for weeks before finally raising the ticket. I am not begging for forgiveness - what I said and did was definitely more than once wrong but I am also sure that I still could improve OUR project - in which I still believe! - as a simple editor (as I said, I am totally free for restrictions - no matter what they might be). Thank you for reading and considering.CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to hear about your troubles.

I pressed "Related Changes" on my user page to check what's been happening, and your talk page came across my screen. As far as I concerned, we had a great cooperation, and I appreciated you as an editor and NPP checker (it was usually you or JohnB123). So for what it is worth, I think you've done great, and last year was a pleasure IMHO. And no, I don't want to know all the details, because AN/I is place which I avoid at all costs, because of the nasty atmosphere there. I would like to remind anybody watching this page, that you should not throw out the baby with water. KittenKlub (talk) 22:18, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words @KittenKlub, @Timtrent, @Elli, @Liz + @Piotrus. If you want to support you can leave a simple "Support Unblocking" at WP:AN if you wish, greatly appreciated. CommanderWaterford (talk) 22:13, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Please do not be even slightly tempted to use this page for general communications. It will spoil your request for unblock/unban. I have already commented at AN. I understand the circumstances that caused you the stress, and I feel that those circumstances explain a very great deal.

I would like you back as a colleague editor and AFC reviewer.

I am studying the AN request. Please do NOT answer me here. I am simply making some observations that you may or may not agree with, and I intend them to be helpful.

It seems to many of the responders that you have not addressed in detail the issues they wish you to address. Please may I suggest that you respond, presumably by leaving a response here, in a manner that addresses their concerns. Obviously the response must not just be words. You must then act on any words (once allowed).

Note that one editor has expressed reservations about potential harassment if you are to be unblocked. I make a strong suggestion that you respond to that.

Note, please, that there appears to be an emerging view of 'Not yet'. If that proves to be the case it is not as bad as 'no, never', and you need to work within the parameters of that suggestion if it happens.

I doubt that this unban request will be successful, but I think you will be better able to make a successful request if this one fails, in approximately 6 months.

I have not checked the terms of your ban, but you may be able to show excellent and collegial behaviour by editing at (eg) Wikidata, Wikiquote, etc, if the terms of your ban allow it. Check the terms. That is up to you. If they do I recommend that course of action. But be very clear: Screw it up there and it will not help. I am trusting you not to get it wrong.

Again, please do not reply to me here. Make your behaviour act as your reply. I am happy, if you are able to use the email function and wish to do so, to receive email from you, but I do not reply via email. No exceptions. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 13:10, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

That feeling when you thought you knew but really didn't.
Atsme 💬 📧 23:50, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Well, in order to prevent any further communication with the user explaining their concerns about possible harassment towards them it would be perhaps an idea to establish an explicit ban for my user towards them after unblocking. As some may have noticed although being totally banned (and also being harassed at this time, on and off wiki) I already continued participating regularly at the Spanish version and Wikidata the last couple of months w/o the slightest issue. I am not allowed to use WK Email and there will be no private conversation at all, Tim, don't worry. My comments here are strictly related to the appeal. I do see primarily people who were heavily involved in my community ban participating in my unblock appeal discussion at WP:AN arguing among others of block-unblock cycles so of course I do not plan to raise another appeal in 6 months, the responding argument would be the same in the future. CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:29, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the comments made by @Moneytrees @Atsme and @Star Mississippi -- FIW although I thought I knew almost everything at this time I really learned a LOT while being at NPP School with ATSME and indeed - after checking once again articles which were brought up by the cci - I must agree that I definitely need some more tutoring on Copyvio Issues and I honestly would be happy if one of you guys would in the future so kind helping me out. CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:28, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Attributing translations is easy enough, just add {{translated page|projectname|translatedarticlename}}

to the talk page. I want to expand a bit on my example with Port of Arrecife; you added this text in this edit:

Lanzarote is situated at a distance of 68 nautical miles from the African continent and is in a key geostrategic position, on the route between the European, African and American continents. This location made the port essential for container traffic. Every year, more than 65,000 TEUs pass through.

The Marina of the Port has 360 berths afloat and 72 dry-dock places. It can handle boats of lengths ranging from 4 metres to 60-metre yachts. t has a painting facility in place for boats of up to 60 meters in length.

This is what the source said:

Lanzarote is situated at a distance of 68 nautical miles from the African continent and is in a key geostrategic position, on the route between the European, African and American continents. This location, together with its inland economic development, has set it up as a port enclave for container traffic. Every year, more than 65,000 TEUs pass through its terminal, which already boasts three gantry cranes.

The Marina of Arrecife Port in Lanzarote has 360 berths afloat and 72 dry-dock places. It services boats of lengths ranging from 4 metres to 60-metre superyachts. - these two sentences are not exactly identical to the ones you added to the article, but they are very closely phrased.

It also has a painting facility in place for boats of up to 60 meters in length.

There is an issue of direct copy and pasting and also close paraphrasing here. If you provided an example of how you would re-write what you added so it did not have overlap with the source, it could go a long way in addressing the copyright part of the ban. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 05:05, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

@Moneytrees Indeed. Much better would have been:

"Lanzarote is a significant geostrategic location on the path connecting the European, African, and American continents, located 68 nautical miles from the African continent. This location, combined with its inland economic development, has established it as a container port enclave. Over 65,000 TEUs travel through its terminal each year, which already has three gantry cranes.

The Arrecife Port Marina in Lanzarote includes 360 floating berths and 72 dry-dock spaces. It caters to yachts ranging in length from 4 meters to 60 meters. A painting facility for boats up to 60 meters in length is also available." CommanderWaterford (talk) 09:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)