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archive-link should be replaced with archive-url, not archive-date

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 04:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [1]
What should happen: [2]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Treat deadlink= the same as deadurl= (to convert to url-status=)

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 04:13, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [3]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

audible.com

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 17:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: So citation bot is changing audible listings to cite book.
What should happen: Cite web should be used.
Relevant diffs/links: [4]
Replication instructions: Add a source to audible.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Replace Cite Web with Cite Journal

Status: {{fixed}} several different ways to catch this and others
Reported by: —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: changed Cite Web to Cite Journal
What should happen: should have left as web or possibly changed to Cite Archive
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Stained_glass_windows_by_Harry_Clarke&diff=1223741434&oldid=1223665575
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Not sure if Citation bot assumed that a the presence of a doi meant it was a journal, but the ref was pointing to a piece in the Trinity College Library archives collection. Attributed authors were picked up and added in ways that created CS1 errors. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Don't add title=MSN

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 00:31, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [5]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

It appears that Citation Bot has a blacklist for generic titles. "MSN" is a common generic title that I see Citation Bot add, so it should be added to that blacklist. (I know the diff I linked is old, but I've seen this happen recently.):Jay8g [V•T•E] 00:31, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

AS Racine FC

Hi bot.can you help correct a typo on the AS racine fc page you just edited?

The page title "AS Racine FC" is wrong. The correct title is "AS Racines F.C".

Please correct it. RoaringEdits (talk) 14:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with Citation Bot. Try Help:Desk. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:25, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Unlinking journal parameter

Hello,

According to the documentation at Template:Cite journal:

work (required by {{cite journal}} and {{cite magazine}}): Name of the work containing the source; may be wikilinked if relevant.

However, it seems citation bot unlinks the journal= parameter (by default?). Is this intentional? Should the documentation be updated if wikilinking journals is discouraged? Or should citation bot be updated to honor an existing wikilink, if any? (Example diff. There's some other questionable changes in there but that's probably from bad input data and harder to deal with.). SnowFire (talk) 21:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Caused by the (JTS) being present for no reason. The bot expects |journal=[[Foo|Everything]], not |journal=[[Foo|Something]], something else. 21:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC) Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

If this is intentional, then I feel like the documentation should be updated that this field needs to have only a single link. I don't really see the problem with the other approach, but I respect that maybe it's needed for bots / microformats rather than humans. (I saw quite a number of short references to "JTS" hence putting the acronym gloss in there, so it's not like a totally irrelevant piece of information to have somewhere.) SnowFire (talk) 21:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

date/year are the same

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:08, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [6]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Won't run on categories with only one item

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 02:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Webpage reports !Category appears to be empty
Replication instructions: Run the bot on any category with only one item. This happens both with the direct link on CS1 error/maint categories and with the category input on the Toolforge page.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Category-link formatting in bot's edit summaries is broken

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes} 15:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: When the bot makes an edit from a category run, the category link in the edit summary is missing one of the two closing brackets necessary to actually activate the link: [[Category:NAME].
What should happen: The category link should be properly formatted as a link, with two opening and two closing brackets: [[Category:NAME]].
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Planking_(fad)&diff=prev&oldid=1224637690
Replication instructions: Run the bot on a category; any edits made during that run will show this bug.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

TNT Title if "Request Rejected"

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [7]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Introduces ref error when citing Penguin publisher website

Status: {{fixed}} - will not change if |website= is set.
Reported by: czar 07:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Introduces ref error by turning {{cite web}} to {{cite book}} ostensibly when url=https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/295/295446/bullshit-jobs/9780141983479.html.
What should happen: Citation bot should take no action. Instead of interpreting that link as referencing a book, citation bot should not assume. In this case, the publisher's webpage itself is being cited as a primary source, so a book it not being cited.
Relevant diffs/links: [8]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

This is the solution. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 08:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Pretty grateful we get to go through every citation to a publisher's blurb or library catalogue record and add a hidden html comment so Citation bot can continue assuming we're all ding-dongs who don't know the difference between a book and a website.

Having ~~said~~ sassed that, I'm not sure what percentage of us are ding-dongs who don't know the difference between a book and a website, and I'm of the opinion that the true solution is probably neither manually adding tens of thousands of hidden html comments nor endlessly tweaking exceptions into Citation bot's code, but mapping |website= to |via= instead of |periodical= in the context of {{Cite book}}, or rolling back the deprecation of the |periodical= aliases from {{Cite book}}, or having Citation bot output {{Cite conference}} or {{Citation}} to support more parameters. Folly Mox (talk) 09:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

The vast, vast, vast majority are ding dongs, where a link to the publisher website is meant to be a link to the book (much like links to Amazon are meant to simply reference the book, not the Amazon listing). There are exceptions of course, but those are the minority, and citing a publisher's website directly is often a failure of WP:IRS (for example here, you really should be citing Financial Times, New Statesman, and City AM directly, rather than the publisher of the book). Adding a comment is a very simple way to prevents bots from fucking up on the minority of cases where such a citation is intentional. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I believe you, and I think I argued a similar point to your position when someone brought the same concern to this talkpage last year. I think I might just be grumpy this morning. Folly Mox (talk) 09:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@Headbomb, does the bot match this exact text or can I add to it? I would prefer the comment to mention that this comment is specifically for Citation bot, as otherwise I see hidden comments often removed from wikitext in mainspace. czar 14:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

It only cares that there's a comment. See User:Citation_bot/use#..._the_bot_made_a_mistake?, specific parameter vs entire citation. Headbomb (alt) (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Past and Present volume and issue numbers

Status: {{not a bug}}
Reported by: Ifly6 (talk) 21:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: For journal Past and Present, in {{cite journal}} given |volume=26 and |issue=26, bot omits |volume= and keeps |issue=
What should happen: It should keep |volume= preferentially to |issue= when the two are identical
Relevant diffs/links: * https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Pliny_the_Younger&diff=prev&oldid=1223755369

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Whig_history&diff=prev&oldid=1223746697

We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Past and Present only has issue numbers. There is no volume number. That's erroneous metadata. See [9]. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

They call them "volumes" and yet have "number" on the front of the magazines themselves. Oh yeah, and each one is "issue 1". AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Volumes and Issue 1 is the bad metadata. The front cover is what's reliable. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:59, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Don't convert URLs to all lowercase

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 08:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [10]
Replication instructions: This doesn't happen often and I'm not sure what causes it, but in this case it broke the link.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

URLs are case insensitive (URL : "Although schemes are case-insensitive, the canonical form is lowercase and documents that specify schemes must do so with lowercase letters."), if something broke, it's not because of the casing. Headbomb (alt) (talk) 17:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Edit, I tried manually setting the casing and... well that website is some kind of special nutjob case because it IS case sensitive. I've never seen that before, ever. Headbomb (alt) (talk) 17:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

@Headbomb (alt): You're misreading your source for that, I'm afraid. URLs are case sensitive.

'scheme' refers to the protocol element before the :// , e.g. http, https, ftps. That is case insensitive; hostnames generally are too (because DNS is); other parts of the URL are not.

Check these out: https://yorril.uk/test https://yorril.uk/Test https://yorril.uk/TEST. This is perfectly normal web server behaviour (out-of-the-box Apache 2). Conventionally, these days, most people make their URLs fully lower case, but they don't have to. TSP (talk) 17:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

The problem is that the parameter https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/legacy-of-jews-in-MENA/Iraq’s-First-Minister-of-Finance#:~:text is set to the value Iraq's%20First%20Minister%20of%20Finance%20%2D%20World%20Jewish%20Congress&text=Sassoon%20Heskel%20(1860–1932)%20was%20born%20into%20an%20established,the%20Middle%20East%2C%20and%20Asia. Which leads to some odd GIGO problems. If the the data was set to be a URL instead of done wrong, this would not occur. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 21:00, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes it has a URL but missing the |url= key name. These errors are not very common, but I've seen enough of them, they exist. Not sure how to check. Probably slicing the citation string along "|" and making sure each segment contains at least one "=". It's imperfect since URLs (like this one) often contain a "=". If it detects a URL "https?://" then temporarily mask it out before doing the "=" test. -- GreenC 21:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Caps: ChemInform

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [11]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Change |date-accessed to |access-date (not |osti-access)

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 17:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [12]
What should happen: [13]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Journal = Progress of Optics

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:43, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [14]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

This is a series, and should not be added to the journal parameter of a cite book.

True, but also the bot should not misspell it "Progess". —David Eppstein (talk) 05:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Caps: Farmakologiia i Toksikologiia

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [15]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Like all other lone I in the middle of a journal name (save for Part I / Section I), should be lowercase. Reporting every single one individually is annoying. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Favor

Dear citation bot: I need a favor; please cite the sources of this articles: Diamonds Are Forever (film); Carlos Alberto Rentería Mantilla; Epiphone Casino and 1988 Writers Guild of America strike. Best wishes. 2800:484:D473:700:C502:BC5C:682A:6B88 (talk) 21:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Misidentifications as journals of not-journals

Status: {{fixed}} a couple of things
Reported by: Folly Mox (talk) 16:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens

Citation bot incorrectly changes template type to {{cite journal}}

Relevant diffs/links

Special:Diff/1223287352 (yesterday) misidentifies a media repository as an academic journal (fixed with {{cite av media}}).
Special:Diff/1223479267 (today) misidentifies a government organ as an academic journal (fixed with {{cite web}}).
Special:Diff/1223493893 (today) misidentifies a book as an academic journal, and narrowly avoids a template error since |website= was set in the existing citation (fixed with {{cite book}}).
Not sure what the common thread is, if any.

We can't proceed until

Feedback from maintainers

Past and Present issue=1

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [16]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

See also [17] Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Huh I had a very different impression. Special:Diff/1223749410 popped up on my watchlist, and I looked into the change. According to doi.org/10.1093/pastj/gty034 we've got volume rather than issue for Past & Present. Folly Mox (talk) 10:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

That's because the OUP metadata is wrong here. It's the 13th supplement, which happened to be in the same year as the 238th issue. See [18]. It should be cited as Past & Present (Suppl. 13). Nowhere in the actual issue is the 238th issue mentioned (or 238th volume). Headbomb (alt) (talk) 17:19, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks, Headbomb. Folly Mox (talk) 17:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Better handling of page/pages with leading p.

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb (alt) (talk) 17:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [19] [20] [21]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Adding current date to old citations

Status: {{fixed}} - will no longer add dates that are within two weeks of today. Also add corydondemocrat.com to the list of websites with bad dates.
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 00:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [22]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I've seen Citation Bot periodically adding the current date to citations where it clearly does not belong. I'm guessing this is some issue with the metadata on the pages in question, but I wonder if there's some way to avoid it - one thing I can think of would be to prevent it from adding the current date (citations where that is actually valid could have the date added by a future bot run when it is no longer the current date), but maybe there's a better option.:Jay8g [V•T•E] 00:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Bot unitalicizes titles of works (e.g. films) in `|trans-title=` parameter

Status: {{fixed}} - trans-title now treated like title and not 'fixed'
Reported by: Centcom08 (talk) 20:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Citation bot unitalicizes words that needs italicizing (e.g. films) in |trans-title= parameter of a {{Cite}} template, despite MOS:CONFORMTITLE.
Relevant diffs/links: sample 1, sample 2
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Past and Present when linked

Status: {{fixed}} -- found four places that the pipe was not taken into account.
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [23]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Bot removes specific details from `|orig-date` parameter in the cite book template

Status: {{fixed}} orig-date will no longer be cleaned
Reported by: Gricharduk (talk) 02:55, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: The bot is removing specific details from the |orig-date parameter in the cite book template e.g. |orig-date=First published 1859 is replaced with |orig-date=1859.
What should happen: As per Wikipedia:Undated, the orig-date parameter requires specific details as well as a date/year e.g. |orig-date=First published 1859 rather than |orig-date=1859.
Relevant diffs/links: Example diff from the Audrey Stuckes article (see the Fendrich 1994 reference)
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Bot making up dates

Status: {{fixed}} - dates that are really new will now be rejected.
Reported by: DuncanHill (talk) 10:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Bot is obsessed with saying everything was published on the 4 June 2024
What should happen: bot stops making shit up. It's bad enough that it goes around breaking sfn/harv refs, but that ity should add entirely false information as well is unforgiveable.
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Gupta%E2%80%93Hunnic_Wars&diff=prev&oldid=1227166526
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Switch the damn thing off. Or fix the errors it introduced. Don't leave it to other poor saps to clean up its mess. DuncanHill (talk) 10:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

This is reported somewhere else above, and is probably the result of sites with overeager structure putting the current date in the meta elements of the html header. I think the solution to this one is to code Citation bot to check the date it scrapes against the current date, and if it's within 24 hours, don't add it. This will stop it from adding dates to breaking news sources about new developments, which is a fine tradeoff.

Another potential solution would be to disable for most users the ability to run Citation bot against an entire category in a way that they aren't forced to review each resulting change manually. Most editors who use this functionality never double check to see if their script run has introduced any errors.

Citation bot does a lot of really good work, but it does a lot of work: last I estimated, an average of around two hundred edits an hour, way too fast to clean up after without the help of the people who run it all the time. Folly Mox (talk) 10:24, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Specifically, these dates: [24] Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Another one added to a Good Article after this report was placed: Special:Diff/1227284405, adding today's date to a book published in 2006 (not formatted as a web link), and incidentally masking a bad anonymous IP edit with a bot edit on top of it. It is definitely not what was suggested above, the result of sites with overeager structure putting the current date in the meta elements of the html header, because there is no url and no html header that the bot could have taken this date from. I tend to agree with the original poster: if this is not going to be fixed quickly then the bot needs to be shut down. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Also pinging User:Jay8g. Jay8g: please make sure that your bot runs aren't garbaging existing good citations. Ultimately when they do it becomes your responsibility. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

That's the exact same solution I suggested in #Adding current date to old citations above, which has been completely ignored. :Jay8g [V•T•E] 02:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Caps: JSAE Review

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 16:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: |journal=Jsae Review
What should happen: |journal=JSAE Review
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Electronically_controlled_brake&diff=prev&oldid=1227419996
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

MovieCrow

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Kailash29792 (talk) 06:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: website=www.moviecrow.com
What should happen: website=MovieCrow
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I would not call this a bug, but the site's name is MovieCrow (find this capitalisation over here and their official ~~Twitter~~ X handle), yet adding the ref via WP:VE or WP:ProveIt renders www.moviecrow.com in the website field rather than MovieCrow, and no date. Could this be fixed when the citation bot is used, please? --Kailash29792 (talk) 06:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Don't add |title= when there's already |script-title= and |trans-title=

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 02:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [25]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I'm not sure if it ever makes sense to add |title= when |script-title= is already there, but it definitely doesn't seem to make sense when there's both |script-title= and |trans-title=.:Jay8g [V•T•E] 02:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Noting in this case, the superfluous algorithmically added |title= isn't even correct: what Citation bot got its hands on there is |website=. Folly Mox (talk) 22:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Editing bot-built pages

Headbomb, it's pointless getting Citation bot to make edits like this and this because the next time that Legobot runs (one minute past the hour), it will ignore what Citation bot did and overwrite it with text copied from the page where the RfC is taking place. If the citation really needs to be amended, this should be done at the source - Talk:Colombia#rfc_CF0B8D1 and Talk:Emir Abdelkader#rfc_54680D6. Legobot will then copy the amended version to the RfC listings. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I believe both talk pages got their edits. I just triggered CB on those subpages so it would clear the DOI categories. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Those files are no blocked from editing by the bot. It will just skip them. {{fixed}} AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Caps: CEA Critic

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Henry_James&diff=prev&oldid=1228166270
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Add ISSN?

I was recently asked to add ISSNs to all journals at a FAC, and wondered why it isn't automatically added when hitting "expand citations" or when automatically filling up citations in the journal citation toolbar? FunkMonk (talk) 20:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Please see semi-relate discussion about ISSNs in journals on Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Placement_of_ISSN_in_Citation_Style_1. Not exactly relevant, but the discussion may end up where we remove ISSNs instead... Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't know who asked you this, but I'd asked exactly the opposite. ISSNs are near-irrelevant, and pure clutter. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes. I would strongly object to automatically adding issns, and if I nominated an article for GA or FA I would strongly object to being told to add issns. If you have an identifier for the individual article, an identifier for the whole journal it appears in is useless clutter. These numbers may occasionally be useful for disambiguating similarly-named journals but they are usually not useful. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Agree with the above: I've used ISSN in limited cases (foreign language periodicals where we don't have an article about them and their published articles don't have DOIs), but adding them en masse is wasteful and bloaty. Folly Mox (talk) 22:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

ISSN can be an amazing add for super obscure things, but almost always pointless clutter. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

{{wontfix}} - flag to archive. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Bot converts new Google Books URLs to the old format

Status: {{wontfix}} right now, because new format is much less standard. Added to "to do" list above
Reported by: Paul_012 (talk) 09:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

What happens: As raised by Salpynx above under #New Google books URLs, the bot converts Google Books URLs under the new format (e.g. https://www.google.com/books/edition/Encyclopedia_of_Music_in_the_20th_Centur/m8W2AgAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&pg=PA379) to the old format, which is now called "classic Google Books" (https://books.google.com/books?id=m8W2AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA379).
What should happen: Since it appears that the old format may be in the process of being phased out, the bot should probably not make such conversions, and just tidy up the URLs under the new format instead.
Relevant diffs/links: Special:Diff/1210636446, Special:Diff/1213075921
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Previous note: This is more of a FYI / request for clarification than a bug report, although there might be a problem with these edits. Bot edit: Special:Diff/1210636446 changed a number of URLs I added manually using the recent new Google books URLs back to the "Classic" Google books version. Working with the new URL format was a bit of pain, especially getting a page number link to function, and I'm not even sure it is an improvement, but it looks like Google is trying to move to the new format? On all the old style links page I see a link to "try the new Google books". The new style URL looks like this: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Encyclopedia_of_Music_in_the_20th_Centur/m8W2AgAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&pg=PA379 , the Classic style the bot is converting to is: https://books.google.com/books?id=m8W2AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA379 Is this still correct behavior? My feeling is that this wasn't a helpful edit, but I'm worried that neither URL format is necessarily stable now if Google are in the process of changing or deprecating their Books URLs. What format should Wikipedia use? Is there a better place to ask this question? Salpynx (talk) 19:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

A better new url would be https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/m8W2AgAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&pg=PA379 since that chunk of text has no effect. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I will work on reworking the code to make "new" URLs. I will have to do it as a pull request to work out the kinks, and it will take time. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

journal = Meth. Enzymol. + series = Methods in Enzymology

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:35, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [26]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Another example: diff which throws a Cite journal requires |journal= error. If a {{cite journal}} has both |journal= and |series= with identical or similar values, then |series= should be dropped, not |journal=. Boghog (talk) 11:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Here Methods in Enzymology is a book series, not a journal, so that's the fix that should be done here. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:53, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Same for Advances in Genetics, also a book series, not a journal. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

CS1 error when Citation bot changes publisher parameter to work for cite book template

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 22:46, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

What happens: publisher parameter to cite book template is replaced by Citation bot with work, which displays as a CS1 error
What should happen: Citation bot should leave it alone (I think)
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Harold_Stassen&diff=prev&oldid=1215401261
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

adding journal to cite book

Status: {{wontfix}} since it is a single reference
Reported by: Spinixster (trout me!) 02:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

What happens: this
What should happen: not that, since it generates an error. I've undone the edit.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I think a template change to Template:Cite journal would be better. Spinixster (trout me!) 02:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

The fix [27]. This is a book series, but individual books are untitled. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Ugh, the series and the "title" are the same. Will look into. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Adds volume=year to conference proceedings incorrectly formatted as journal

Status: {{fixed}} - rejects volumes that are same as year
Reported by: —David Eppstein (talk) 22:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Special:Diff/1224203420
What should happen: not that
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Better handling of SPIE proceedings

Status: {{fixed}} - now recognizes "international symposium" as magic phrase
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:47, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [28]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Still needs lots of cleanup after, e.g [29] + cleanup, [30] + cleanup. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

And if there are magic words "Proceedings of SPIE" "Proceedings of the SPIE" "Proc SPIE" "Proc. SPIE" "SPIE Proceedings" "SPIE Proc." "SPIE Proc" and "Proceedings of the Society of Photo-Optical Instrumentation Engineers" should all be added. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Those also. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 21:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Zenodo

Hi, The citation bot is putting in links to Zenodo. It is consider problematic and best avoided. scope_creep^Talk 10:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Example please. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 02:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

{{fixed}} AManWithNoPlan (talk) 12:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

The Athletic

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Sounder Bruce 06:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Website/work is changed from The Athletic to The New York Times
What should happen: Website/work should remain The Athletic when theathletic.com or nytimes.com/athletic/ is used.
Relevant diffs/links: Example at Seattle Reign FC
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Washington Post (again)

Status: Fixed - will now be considered a minor edit and will not be done unless something substantial is also done.
Reported by: Sounder Bruce 01:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

What happens: The bot changes |work=The Washington Post to |newspaper=The Washington Post, but only for this newspaper in particular. It's pointless and clogs watchlists. A fix for this was requested before but never seems to have been implemented.
Relevant diffs/links: Example diff
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

CS1 errors from partial journal-to-book conversion

Status: Fixed for the most part
Reported by: —David Eppstein (talk) 23:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

What happens: When citation bot finds a cite journal template pointing to a book in the Lecture Notes in Computer Science series, with |journal= giving the book title and |series= pointing to LNCS, it converts it into cite book (correct!) but fails to change |title= to |contribution= and |journal= to |title=, leaving the reference in a broken state.
What should happen: The bot should never change working-but-erroneous citations into not-even-working citations; that is going the wrong direction. If it cannot do this conversion properly it should not be doing it at all.
Relevant diffs/links: Special:Diff/1211730231
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

This bug is still ongoing and still leading to new CS1 errors in articles. Example: Special:Diff/1213121977, creating a {{cite book}} with a |journal= parameter and triggering a CS1 error. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

STILL ONGOING. Special:Diff/1220922831. THE BOT SHOULD NOT CHANGE ARTICLES WITHOUT CS1 ERRORS INTO ARTICLES WITH CS1 ERRORS. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:57, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Yet another: Special:Diff/1221441974. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Link in title

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Spinixster (trout me!) 02:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

What happens: When there is a wikilink in the title in italics, Citation bot fixes it like this.
What should happen: This is redundant. The bot can put the wikilink in title-link instead like so.

It's not really a bug, but I think it's a worthy addition to the bot. Spinixster (trout me!) 02:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

cite book in place of correct cite web, and insert wrong date

Status: Fixed
Reported by: A ntv (talk) 18:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: a) BOT modified a correct cite web in a wrong cite web, b) BOT added a completely wrong date (1677)
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Gazette_de_Berne&diff=1222065203&oldid=1211083557#

On Gazette de Berne, this edit [31] of this BOT is wrong for two reasons: a) BOT modified a correct cite web in a wrong cite web, b) BOT added a completely wrong date (1677). A ntv (talk) 18:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

The date is correct, that's from May 1677. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

The date 1677 is not correct. This was a reference to webpage with information about an old newspaper published from 1677 to 1692 (Bern, 1677 - 1692nachgewiesen). This webpage displays an issue in 1667 just as example. More correctly, the date should be Date of referenced source, i.e. the date of that webpage. In case the intention of the (human) editor was to refer to a single issue of that newspaper, the template would be cite periodical, but this was not the case. Probably this BOT should look also in the article to understand what the reference is about: otherwise it is better that the BOT doesn't change the type of template chosen the editor. A ntv (talk) 20:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

New CS1 error from partial cite web to cite book conversion

Status: Fixed with code that will remove a select list of items from website parameter if template is cite book and it has a doi
Reported by: —David Eppstein (talk) 06:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Special:Diff/1220938519
What should happen: Again, we should not see any instances of the bot changing citations without CS1 errors to citations with CS1 errors. Convert correctly or don't convert. How about: put in a sanity check and if the new version would create new errors, don't do anything.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

These errors are improvements, because they flag existing problems that were not reported. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Then flag the problems to the person who invoked the bot, and refuse to save the other bot edits until they fix it. By making citations produce a trail of errors across the encyclopedia you are passing off your work to others and making the citations worse until someone else takes the effort to fix them. Does the fact that some other people organize trash cleanup days at parks make it ok to dump your litter in the park? Do it yourself. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:55, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Causing template errors

Status: Fixed a bunch more.
Reported by: MisterTech (talk) 11:35, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

What happens: Citation bot is changing journal templates to book templates, leaving the journal parameter intact which results in a template error.
What should happen: Citation bot should also change the journal parameter to a title parameter
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Draft%3AData_spaces&diff=1182601603&oldid=1181737145
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I don't know that that's the solution ({{cite journal}} almost always already contains |title=), but despite being a sometimes commenter on this talk page, I actually came here now to report the same error at Special:Diff/1183763093. Maybe Citation bot should check for |periodical= and its aliases before changing the type of citation template wrapper. I've been working on Category:CS1 errors: periodical ignored (23,162), and I'm never going to be able to keep up with Citation bot creating this error. Folly Mox (talk) 13:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

In both cases, it is a bit of problem with the wrong template and information being entered by a human being. I will see what more can be done. The bot did shrink Category:CS1 errors: periodical ignored (23,162) by tens of thousands a while back, but it seems to have hit a steady-state with the bot both fixing and adding members to this category. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:49, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Special:Diff/1186701879 is another example, a few minutes ago, of Citation bot creating template errors by changing citation wrapper template without appropriate reparameterisation of values already present. For clarity, the existing citation ({{cite web}} to a publisher landing page for a book) wasn't great, but this behaviour is not desirable: altering the template called without checking whether it contains unsupported parameters.

For changing {{cite web}} to {{cite book}} where |website= is present, I can't think of a case where it would be an error to reparameterise |website= to |via=, unless |via= is already present. Folly Mox (talk) 00:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I've begun reverting Citation bot whenever it produces this error, which seems to account for between 1% and 2% of its recent edits. I know I take a critical tone here frequently (still traumatised by ReferenceExpander), but Citation bot does a lot of really good work. I do appreciate it and the maintainers.

Also I'm aware that the whole reason this type of edit causes a template error in the first place is the underdiscussed and unnecessary removal of support for the |work= parameter from {{cite book}} without adequate preparation time.

I do plan to start contacting editors who frequently run Citation bot, introduce this error, and then never check the output or help fix it, as required by the guidance at the top of Citation bot's userpage. I know the responsibility does not fall solely on the maintainers. Folly Mox (talk) 18:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Books series occupy a space somewhere between books and journals. Similar to journals, books series are published on a regular (or at least semi-regular) basis with volume numbers. To at least some editors, book series look like journals, so I think it should not be suprising that they sometimes use the {{cite journal}} template for book series. And it is not just editors. Automated tools like WP:RefToolbar will generate at least a partial citation to the chapter selecting "cite journal" and specifying a DOI. In contrast RefToolbar "cite book" option does not even support chapters. Citeoid in VisualEditor will also generate a "cite journal" template including the chapter as the title if the DOI is entered. Wikipedia template filling tool will also generate cite journal templates for chapters in book series. I would argue that using {{cite journal}} for chapters in book series, is not wrong. Furthermore this usage does not throw any error messages. Converting journals to books without reparameterization is throwing errors. IMHO, Citation Bot should not convert these templates unless it also adjusts the parameters. I think the principle of first, do no harm applies here. Boghog (talk) 12:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

I've run across a number of cases that fall into this genre, most recently this one. Here, the book series is Journal of Neural Transmission. Supplementum at Springer; others I can remember off the top of my head are Methods in Enzymology and Progress in Drug Research, both at Elsevier.

It seems to me that if Citation bot is both 1. altering the template type to {{cite book}} while 2. getting valid data for a parameter named journal (as can be seen in the linked diff: it expands the abbreviated form), then the bot should be reparameterising |journal= to |series= if |series= is not set.

I've stated before that Citation bot needs to have more awareness of what parameters are present in the citation it's editing when it changes the template type, but it also occurs to me that it's way too aggressive at changing templates to {{cite book}} whenever it finds an isbn. A lot of the errors stem from editors citing webpages with bibliographic information (like library records, publisher landing pages, or book retailers) in order to establish the existence of a book, which is not great practice and has been discussed on this talkpage before. But many other errors come from the fact that conference proceedings and journal issues can also have isbns, and those require different parameters and are created using different templates by other citation tools.

In my journey through Special:RandomInCategory/CS1 errors: periodical ignored, my rough estimate is that 50% of these errors (±10%) are introduced by Citation bot. Folly Mox (talk) 11:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

A class of new(?) errors

A user brought to my attention a possibly new type of error by the bot which causes "}}: |website= ignored" and "|journal= ignored" messages. I'm not clear on what's going on, so here are the diffs they found: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Abductive (reasoning) 22:19, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

It is often GIGO. The bot adds corrected parameters and leave some bad stuff behind. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 22:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

I will look into trying to reduce this. I know that the bot fixed many more of these than it creates. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your work on this. It's probably difficult when almost all the engagement on this talkpage is complaints. I believe you when you say Citation bot has fixed this class of error more often than it has introduced it, and I appreciate that. Folly Mox (talk) 12:58, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

This has already improved a lot over where it was last week! Folly Mox (talk) 11:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

This bug seems eradicated for many of the more common cases, but I did find another example today, at Special:Diff/1189067865. My fix looked like this. Folly Mox (talk) 19:51, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Ran into a few more GIGO style manifestations of this bug today, but also a bunch of conference proceedings hosted by Springer, all of which caused this same error: Special:Diff/1189110528, Special:Diff/1189117384, and Special:Diff/1189119689 (the last of which alone caused five errors). Folly Mox (talk) 03:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Suggestion: IF [changed "cite web" to "cite book"] AND ["|website=" exists] THEN [change "website=" to "via="] - - this would preserve useful info. Cheers Protalina (talk) 15:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

I see this error is still going on after all these months, like this edit from today. Any chance of implementing Protalina's simple suggested fix just above? That won't fix every kind of issue arising from changing templates that support an alias of |periodical= to {{cite book}} (even the example I just gave is a different kind of problem), but it will at least: not populate Category:CS1 errors: periodical ignored (23,162); and display in |via= whatever value was held in |website= instead of hiding it behind a template error. Folly Mox (talk) 16:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Lots of these are now

Fixed. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

More Reuters

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 18:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: Change from {{cite web}} to {{cite news}} and remove {{!}} Reuters from the |title=
https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=2015&diff=prev&oldid=1230111908

10.12942 is open access

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [32]

Advances in Genetics is a book series

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [33]

See also [34]. Should cover the undotted version 'Adv Genet' too. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Reuters non-usa

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 21:59, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: CHanged |work=Reuters to |agency=Reuters
What should happen: Should not change when the URL is http://today.reuters.co.uk (i.e. *.reuters.*)
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=2005_in_the_Palestinian_territories&diff=prev&oldid=1230470081

poor meta-data

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: |newspaper=Radiofreeeurope/Radioliberty
What should happen: |newspaper=Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Druzhba_pipeline&diff=prev&oldid=1230457479

Newstream is a bad title

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: |title=Newstream
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=South_Korean_defectors&diff=prev&oldid=1230458212

Resolve reut.rs

Status: Won't fix - not enough
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 19:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: Expand reut.rs links to reuters.com links
https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Pisky&diff=prev&oldid=1230450957
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Example https://reut.rs/3NMDRBT should be expanded to https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/deadly-artillery-attack-hits-donetsk-mar-idOV454213062022RP1/ - we should not have shortned URL links. Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 19:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

TNT `{title}` in title

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Nuclear_program_of_Saudi_Arabia&diff=prev&oldid=1230451906

More Reuters in title

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:Josve05a/sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1230426470
and https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:Josve05a/sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1230426950
and https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:Josve05a/sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1230431044

Citation Bot edit-warring with OABot

Status: {{not a bug}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 07:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [35], [36], [37], [38]
What should happen: I'm not sure which bot is right, but they shouldn't reverse each other's edits.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

OA-bot is wrong. Scholarpedia is clearly open access. Same for Medknow, ASBMB journals. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 08:36, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Caps: COSPAR

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 07:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: |journal=42nd Cospar Scientific Assembly
What should happen: |journal=42nd COSPAR Scientific Assembly
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=List_of_microorganisms_tested_in_outer_space&diff=prev&oldid=1232155922

and other 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 07:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

URL code needs improved

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 06:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: It changed from |chapter-url= to |url= for https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1057%2F9781137353726_6.pdf despite it being the chapter URL and not the URL for the entire book
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=List_of_eco-horror_films&diff=prev&oldid=1232152938

Always strip SCP-tags in titles and chapters

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 15:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: |chapter=The Lausanne <SCP>II</SCP> in <SCP>M</SCP> anila 1989 International Congress on World Evangelization and|title=<SCP>D</SCP>urán of <SCP>H</SCP>uesca (C. 1160–1230): A <SCP>W</SCP>aldensian Seeking a Remedy to Heresy
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Second_International_Congress_on_World_Evangelization&oldid=1231490795 and https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Durand_of_Huesca&diff=prev&oldid=1231487912

Caps: CHEMKON

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 15:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: |journal=Chemkon
What should happen: |journal=CHEMKON
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Mercury_beating_heart&diff=prev&oldid=1231489056

title things

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Spinixster (trout me!) 01:17, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: this
What should happen: There is already a trans-title and a script-title, adding a title is redundant.

Duplicate to User talk:Citation bot/Archive 39 § Don't add |title= when there's already |script-title= and |trans-title= — even down to the source: compare Special:Diff/1228221662. The fix must not have taken. Folly Mox (talk) 11:08, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Myrealnamm cannot login

Status: Won't fix
Reported by: Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 20:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: If using citations.toolforge.org and input a page and hit "Process Page", and if login is needed, it will show "

!Nothing requested -- OR -- pages got lost during initial authorization

" after login. This happens every time when I login, and I will have to paste the page name again.

Probably your web browser security settings. Your sessions exist on the server. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:49, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Even even more Reuters in title

Status: Won't fix for now
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 18:59, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Cultural_impact_of_Michael_Jackson&diff=prev&oldid=1230444894
and https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Reactions_to_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine&diff=prev&oldid=1230445950
What should happen: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Cultural_impact_of_Michael_Jackson&diff=prev&oldid=1230445055
and https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Reactions_to_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine&diff=next&oldid=1230445950
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

This is when Citation bot changes from web.archive.org to reuters.com, it does not change the title in the same edit. Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 19:07, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

See also https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Cannabis_in_Afghanistan&diff=prev&oldid=1230456141 where it did not remove Reuters from the title in the first edit - had to run the page again. Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Bot edit-warring with itself at Rafael Riqueni

Status: Won't fix for now, since was very much GIGO and rare
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 20:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [39] - bot keeps adding and removing the title from a reference
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I have fixed the reference. That is an odd case of bad existing data. I will look at how to make the bot not do this. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 00:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Supplement issue cleanup

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Rush_Alzheimer%27s_Disease_Center&diff=prev&oldid=1231191205

Can login but cache gets lost

Status: {{wontfix}}
Reported by: Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 19:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: When I submit a page into the website https://citations.toolforge.org/, it asks for login. However, after I login, it shows "

!Nothing requested -- OR -- pages got lost during initial authorization "

so then I have to put in the page name again, which will work. So every time I re-login, either from a different browser, clearing cookies, or session expiry, I have to enter the page name twice. The first time will show the error message, and the second time will work.

What should happen: After login, should directly starts searching the imputed page, instead of showing error message.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

See User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_39#Myrealnamm_cannot_login. This is not something that can be fixed. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Headbomb Thanks, I just reposted it because I thought the other editor misunderstood my message into the fact that I can't login at all. Thanks! Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 20:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

"pages got lost during initial authorization" there is literally no way to save that information reliably. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 00:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

The login is not just you granting the bot permission, it is you being authenticated. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 01:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Caps: JAAPA

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [40]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Caps: Journal of NeuroInterventional Surgery

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [41]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Assumption of uniqueness of titles

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Jeannette_Ng&diff=1114953358&oldid=1107442094

This edit is the result of the assumption that a title would only be used by one article in one journal. Ng's short story has been linked to an unrelated essay by an unrelated academic. DS (talk) 13:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

{{notabug}} - very old edit. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Don't remove |access-date when converting |url to |archive-url

Status: {{not a bug}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 22:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [42]
Replication instructions: It appears that converting archive URLs triggers the code that removes access dates without URLs, which doesn't seem like the right thing to do in this situation.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

They weren't removed. Search for "access-date" in the diff and you'll see them all. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Old edit I stumbled upon

Over here, Citation bot added s2cid, found it identical to the provided URL and promptly stripped out the URL. Now, that might make sense for a lot of citation templates, but this one was using a {{Cite web}} template, which promptly throws a CS1 error as a result of not having a URL.

Yes, in this case the reference should have been using {{Cite journal}} not {{Cite web}}. Still, I don't think taking a functioning if less-than-ideal reference and changing it into throwing CS1-errors without any substantial improvements is particularly helpful behavior. This might well have been fixed since (it was the better part of a year ago, after all, I just happened on it today), but if not, perhaps Citation bot might want to check when stripping URLs whether the reference it's stripping them from is using Cite web, especially in cases where all it's doing is moving functionally the same link to a differently-named parameter? AddWittyNameHere 17:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

{{fixed}} AManWithNoPlan (talk) 16:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Zapiski Nauchnykh Seminarov Leningradskogo Otdeleniya Matematicheskogo Instituta imeni V. A. Steklova Akademii Nauk SSSR (LOMI)

In Special:Diff/1232727473, the bot changed the capitalization of the journal above from "imeni" to "Imeni". I don't speak Russian but I'm guessing from context that this is a connecting word that should be lowercase. Anyone who knows Russian care to weigh in? In the original Cyrillic it appears to be mostly abbreviated (and the other proper noun phrases within the title are capitalized only on the first word): Записки научных семинаров Ленинградского отделения Математического института им. В.А. Стеклова АН СССР (ЛОМИ). —David Eppstein (talk) 19:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Imeni means "named after". There's many ways to transliterate that journal, when lowercase are used, it's often "Zapiski nauchnykh seminarov Leningradskogo otdelenii︠a︡ Matematicheskogo instituta imeni V.A. Steklova AN SSSR (LOMI)", but when capitalized, there's no real reason to leave imeni in lowercase. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

{{fixed}} AManWithNoPlan (talk) 17:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Don't remove URL from cite web

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 21:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [43]
What should happen: I'm pretty sure this has been reported before, but I guess it hasn't been fully fixed. If the template is staying as cite web, the URL needs to be left in place.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I fixed this citation and in doing so tripped the global blacklist for predatory journals (academicjournals.org). Not sure if that's related. Left the citation with attribution, no url, and a {{predatory publisher}}. Folly Mox (talk) 14:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Don't add duplicate {{ASIN}}

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 02:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [44]
What should happen: If there's already an {{ASIN}} in the ID parameter, don't add a second identical one.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

No templates in headers.

cs1|2 supports a named identifier |asin= and |asin-tld= so this:

{{cite book |title=Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection)|id={{ASIN|1785948865|country=uk}}}}

Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection). ASIN 1785948865.

could be written:

{{cite book |title=Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection)|asin=1785948865 |asin-tld=uk}}

Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection). ASIN 1785948865. {{cite book}}: Check |asin= value (help)

But, since that produces an error because the asin is the same as the book's isbn, use |isbn=1-78594-886-5

{{cite book |title=Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection) |isbn={{format ISBN|1785948865}}}}

Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection). ISBN 1-78594-886-5.

If you really consulted this source you should also have included the rest of the bibliographic detail: author, publication date, publisher, location, insource location(s) (|page(s)=), etc.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 03:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Hahaha no one who cites Amazon has consulted the book they're linking. It's almost universally used to establish the existence of a printed work. In this case, the book has not even been published yet, and the reference was made to support a release date.

This citation should have remained {{cite web}} – since the relevant information is bibliographic data provided on a Amazon webpage – instead of being blindly converted to {{cite book}}. Folly Mox (talk) 10:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

MNRAS is open access

This should cover DOI prefixes

10.1093/mnras
10.1111/j.1365-2966
10.1046/j.1365-8711

per https://academic.oup.com/mnras/pages/About

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

{{fixed}} AManWithNoPlan (talk) 16:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

DOI flagged as down

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 22:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: The bot tagged |doi=10.1136/bmj.i375 as broken. It is not.
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Jim_van_Os&diff=prev&oldid=1234939077
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Caps: APEA

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [45]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

10.4230 is open access, LIPIcs

10.4230 is open access, for LIPIcs. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

{{fixed}} AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Geophysical Journal International is open access

This should cover DOI prefixes

10.1093/gji
10.1111/j.1365-246X
10.1046/j.1365-246X

Also RASTI

10.1093/rasti

And MNRAS Letters

10.1093/mnrasl
10.1111/j.1745-3933

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

{{fixed}} AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Proceedings E

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 00:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: It changes |journal=IEE Proceedings E [...] to |journal=IEE Proceedings e [...]
What should happen: It should not do this
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User%3AJosve05a%2Fsandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1235164016
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Bad titles: Radware Bot Manager Captcha

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [46]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

var. species

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 02:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: |title=First Record of Mysaromima liquescens Meyric (Lepidoptera: Elaschistidae) Damaging Paricá (Schizolobium parahyba var. Amazonicum)
What should happen: "amazonicum" should not have been capitalized. Don't capitalize a word if the previous word is var.
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User%3AJosve05a%2Fsandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1237297332
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"Redirecting" should be blacklisted as a title when expanding refs

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 04:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: |title=Redirecting
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User%3AJosve05a%2Fsandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1238104217
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

References aren’t being seen?

Status: {{not a bug}}
Reported by: PaulTanenbaum (talk) 16:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: bot reverted my edit and squawked about a want of references despite there being a pair of references
What should happen: My recent edit of [the article on antimicrobial resistance] should be accepted unmolested.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

The bot didn't revert you, double check the edit history. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

10.1210/jcemcr... are free DOIs

And should be tagged as free. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

So is

10.1046/j.1365-246x...

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Fixed AManWithNoPlan (talk) 18:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Book series treated as journal, resulting in CS1 error

Status: Fixed
Reported by: —Kusma (talk) 08:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Bot adds |journal= to a {{cite book}} template, resulting in CS1 error.
What should happen: Add |series= or do nothing
Relevant diffs/links: [47]

Bunch of ACM SIG... caps

Whenever encountered, the following should be allcap'd.

SIGACCESS SIGACT SIGAPL SIGAPP SIGARCH SIGBED SIGBIO SIGCAPH SIGCAS SIGCHI SIGCOMM SIGCPR SIGCSE SIGDA SIGDOC SIGGRAPH SIGGROUP SIGHPC SIGIR SIGKDD SIGLOG SIGMETRICS SIGMICRO SIGMIS SIGMOBILE SIGNUM SIGOPS SIGPLAN SIGSAC SIGSAM SIGSOFT SIGUCCS SIGWEB

I.e. if you see journal=Sigweb Notices or title=Proceedings of Sigops, change them to journal=SIGWEB Notices and title=Proceedings of SIGOPS.

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:33, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Fixed AManWithNoPlan (talk) 18:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Bad DOI link

Moved to Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 95 § Bad DOI link

– Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 21:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Fixed - my main task on wiki right now is tracking bad dois. Including a list of bad ones that is built into the bot. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 18:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Bot deleted part of book title

Status: Not a bug,but odd
Reported by: Eric ^talk 12:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Part of book title deleted.
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Albatross_Books&diff=prev&oldid=1144390069
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

My first bot report, not sure if this counts as a bug. In the diff linked above, the edit deletes part of a book title and the beginning of the mark-up for italics. Note that this occurs in a "Further reading" section, not in an in-line citation.

Look closer at the diff, it didn't delete anything from book titles. The URL was malformed, so it processed that as it would a normal url. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for replying. I see it now, in the external link, there was no space between the url and the link text (the book title). So when the bot truncated the url, it also removed the link text up til the first space, I assume by design. The thing that still puzzles me is why the link was working okay before that, when it had no space separating the url and the link text. Maybe the wiki software treats the apostrophe(s) like a space? Eric ^talk 17:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Flickr is not a newspaper

Status: Fixed
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 01:39, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [48]
What should happen: Leave it as Cite Web

Even worse, it added newspaper=Flickr to Cite Book templates here, creating CS1 errors. This is new behavior and really needs to be fixed.:Jay8g [V•T•E] 19:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Wrong quotes mark parsing in case of several quotes marks in a sentence

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Euwed (talk) 09:23, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: The Citation bot wrongly parsed and replaced quotes marks, the following original sentence:

 «Федерацию анархического черного креста» признали «нежелательной организацией»

have been parsed and replaced with: "Федерацию анархического черного креста» признали «нежелательной организацией"

What should happen: In case quotes marks («») should be replaced with ("") according to the typography guidelines, then it should be done completely and not just for the first and the last quote mark:

 "Федерацию анархического черного креста" признали "нежелательной организацией"

Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Russian_undesirable_organizations_law&diff=1236936682&oldid=1236664768

AdsAbs limit quick exhaustion

Status: Won't fix, since they don't care
Reported by: Maxim Masiutin (talk) 07:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

What happens: There is AdsAbs limit quick exhaustion of current 25000 used by the bot. Can you please contact the AdsAbs persons asking to increase limit to 50 or 100 thousands. Alternatively, I can give you my API key so you can improve the bot to use next API key after previous one is exhausted, so that we will have a list of AdsAbs API keys to be sequentally used.

 
>Checking AdsAbs database
>AdsAbs search 25000/25000
!Need to retry after 15039s (04:10:39). Rate limit resets on 2024-05-07 08:26:22 UTC.
!Giving up on AdsAbs for a while.  Too many requests.

We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Invisible characters

Status: Won't fix, since there are too many false positives
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 07:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [49] [50]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Decodes to "Cyber%20%E2%80%8B%E2%80%8BPartisans" and "Weekly%20%E2%80%94".

So whatever the characters %E2 %80 and %8B are, they should get the boot. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 07:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

%E2 %80 %8B is U+200B (ZERO-WIDTH SPACE) and %E2 %80 %94 is U+2014 (EM DASH), for what it's worth. Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes} 20:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Strip wiley URL

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 11:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Chilo_partellus&diff=prev&oldid=1235035526

Dubious conversion of {{cite web}} to {{cite journal}}

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Boghog (talk) 16:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: It changes {{cite web|work}} to {{cite journal|journal|vauthors}} and creates the author "Learning L" from the work "Lumin Learning". I am pretty sure that "Lumin Learning" is not a journal and certainly is not an author.
What should happen: It should not do this
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Applied_behavior_analysis&diff=1235498184&oldid=1235497340

bot created broken `|volume=`

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Trappist the monk (talk) 13:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens

bot created |volume=vol. n; the vol. annotation should never be part of the value assigned to |volume=; this same applies to |issue= and |number=. From Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration (% is the lua escape character; similar to \ in regex):

'^volumes?',															-- volume-like text
'^vols?[%.:=]?',

'^issues?',																--issue-like text
'^iss[%.:=]?',
'^numbers?',
'^nos?%A',																-- don't match 'november' or 'nostradamus'
'^nr[%.:=]?',
'^n[%.:= ]',															-- might be a valid issue without separator (space char is sep char here)
'^n°',																	-- 'n' with degree sign (U+00B0)
'^№',																	-- precomposed unicode numero character (U+2116)

any |volume=, |issue=, |number= parameter value that begins with text that matches one of those patterns will cause cs1

Relevant diffs/links: Special:Diff/1237525801 Special:Diff/1237528448

!Error loading CrossRef file

Status: Won't fix - CrossRef is down https://status.crossref.org/
Reported by: Snowman304|talk 05:13, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: A lot of citations are showing an error loading CrossRef files. I haven't yet seen a rhyme or reason, but I've gotten several errors tonight (Chicago time) like this:

!Error loading CrossRef file from DOI 10.1088/1748-9326/ac55b6!

and

!Unexpected simpleXML file from CrossRef.

Relevant diffs/links: https://citations.toolforge.org/process_page.php?edit=toolbar&slow=1&page=World_energy_supply_and_consumption
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Link articles from theprint.in to ThePrint

Currently it is being changed to the Theprint, without the wikilink Skratata69 (talk) 10:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Diff? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Not a bug no idea. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 00:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Changing to (cite journal) without giving a (journal) value

Status: Fixed by recognizing SSRN is not a journal, execept when it is
Reported by: Cat12zu3 (talk) 03:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: after this (Citation Bot) changes from (cite web) to (cite journal), this bot forget to add give a (journal) value, henced showing an cosmetic/advisory error message (cite journal: Cite journal requires - journal (help)). It happened at journal title (The Dialogue between the ECHR and the Italian Constitutional Court: The Saga of 'Giem and Others V Italy) at Special:Diff/1171484922 --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 03:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
What should happen: when changing to (cite journal), (journal=) value should also be given/stated
Relevant diffs/links: Special:Diff/1171484922
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

The proper conversion would be to a {{cite ssrn}} Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

True, and best case outcome for this specifically. For the general case, it might be prudent for Citation bot to check whether or not it has parsed out a |journal= parameter from the metadata, and abort the change in template type if the value is empty. Folly Mox (talk) 16:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Oxford University PressOxford

When the bot is adding the publisher for Oxford University Press, it ends up adding "publisher=Oxford University PressOxford". eg https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Thiamphenicol_glycinate_acetylcysteine&diff=1241484560&oldid=1241438489 . Perhaps there should be location=Oxford, but may not be necessary. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:37, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Fixed with custom code for bad meta-data. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 00:40, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Citation bot needs to learn about the `|article-number=` parameter

Status: Fixed - found that one place where pages were still added
Reported by: 97.102.205.224 (talk) 05:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC); 97.102.205.224 (talk) 16:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: The bot creates parameters like |page=182501 or |page=035005 for electronic journals (such as Physical Review Letters and Metrologia) which do not use page numbers. Or, to be more precise, each article has its pages numbered from 1. Those are |article-number= values, which are formatted differently. It is, indeed, sometimes useful to refer to page p of a long article number a.

Frustratingly, it adds those unwanted parameters even if there's already an article-number in the citation, producing a particularly stupid-looking footnote. I have to add blank |page= parameters to make it stop.
What should happen: In the long run, the bot should know the difference and insert the correct parameter, but I understand that's a pretty major change to the entire citation-finding engine. A simple stopgap which would at least avoid breaking correct citations would be to teach Citation bot to not add |page= parameters to a citation which already includes an |article-number= parameter, especially if it has the same value as Citation bot's proposed addition.
Relevant diffs/links: Special:Diff/1223540435 (Citation bot screwing up)
Special:Diff/1231123203 (Citation bot screwing up)
Special:Diff/1237956102 (my angry edit fixing the screw ups)
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Feature request: Google Books

Hello Smith609!

The various books.google domain extensions (.com/.be/.fr et cetera) change the language of the interface.

Often links to foreign versions of books.google.com end up on the English version of Wikipedia, via translated articles or editors who speak a second language.

Searching for insource:"books.google" insource:/\/\/books\.google\.(de|fr|es|nl|pt|it)/ returns 1472 results.

There are 187 language versions of Google according to this.

Would you be so kind to let the bot convert them all to .com, except those who use .co.uk?

It could use {{cite book}} or {{Google Books URL}} where applicable.

Is it OK for Citation bot to deal with external links? Or do we need a new WP:BOTREQ for that?

Thanks in advance, Polygnotus (talk) 16:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

{{fixed}}, this is a function for over a decade. That link of languages is incomplete FYI. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:00, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

And the search includes mostly web archive links, which obviously cannot be "fixed". AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Don't add ABC News dablink

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 23:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [51]
What should happen: [[ABC News (United States)|ABC News]], or just don't add the link
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I think Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Platybot might be related. Folly Mox (talk) 08:55, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Bot confused by "at" parameter

Status: {{wontfix}}, but will keep my eye on
Reported by: Abductive (reasoning) 02:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Bot removed italics from entries in the "at =" field
What should happen: nothing?
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=List_of_inventoried_conifers_in_Canada&curid=75000890&diff=1242298648&oldid=1242268413
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I have no idea what the "at" parameter is for, but the bot seems to have something against italics there. This was reported to me by User:Dank. Abductive (reasoning) 02:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

The at command is misused on this page. I have fixed the page itself. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, that looked complicated. Abductive (reasoning) 19:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Bot added invisible characters

Status: {{fixed}}, I was able to figure out where the bad encoding was coming from.
Reported by: GoingBatty (talk) 03:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Bot added invisible characters in title fields
Relevant diffs/links: * https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=2010_NASCAR_Nationwide_Series&diff=1241093150&oldid=1240992559

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Kalinga_%28film%29&diff=1241840082&oldid=1228879816

We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Thanks for making the fix. I reverted the bot's edits and reran the bot. It appears that the bot no longer adds anything for those URLs that previously had invisible characters:

GoingBatty (talk) 15:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

The archive title API is the most prone to failure API. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 02:21, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Removes trailing punctuation from authorn-mask

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Folly Mox (talk) 09:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: The |author-mask= parameters suppress separators between author names, since their original use case was masking a name to avoid repetition in bibliographies as is popular in some citation styles. However, |author-mask= is also current best practice for displaying names in standard East Asian format, with or without native glyphs.
For these reasons, when there are multiple authors and |authorn-mask= is being used, punctuation must be added to the end of the parameter values for any authors except the last accredited, in order to delimit the names. Citation bot removed a trailing comma, which I've since replaced with a semicolon to mimic the CS1 standard.
What should happen: Citation bot probably shouldn't be removing trailing punctuation from |author-mask=, or indeed really touching these parameters, since they are manually crafted and display exactly as written.
Relevant diffs/links: Special:Diff/1242482740
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Suggestion

Status: {{notabug}}
Reported by: – S. Rich (talk) 03:27, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: when the bot is run, it adds a "via JSTOR" note/parameter when it fixes refs that have a JSTOR url
What should happen: The added "via JSTOR" parameter is not needed. It just clutters the resulting link. That is, when we add a JSTOR url the result says "JSTOR 1234567" (with JSTOR already linked).
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

The bot doesn't do that. Diff? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:43, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Bot added invisible characters again

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: GoingBatty (talk) 13:31, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Despite User talk:Citation bot/Archive 39#Bot added invisible characters, the bot is again adding invisible characters to the title field
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=2010_NASCAR_Nationwide_Series&diff=1242738849&oldid=1242670079
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

That one is now fixed, but be aware that this is problem that cannot be fully solved, since many pages use multiple code pages or lie about the code page and lastly there is no 100% reliable way to guess code pages. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Adds wrong date

Status: {{notabug}}
Reported by: IlkkaP (talk) 22:25, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: adds date 11 November 2018
What should happen: should add date 27 August 2024
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=List_of_largest_cruise_ships&diff=prev&oldid=1242801839
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

This is a problem with the maintenance of the source webpage, which contains <meta property="article:published_time" content="2018-11-11T16:44:45+00:00" />. They should update their timestamps. Folly Mox (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for checking. This report can be closed or removed (would do myself but don't know what is correct procedure on this page).IlkkaP (talk) 03:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Bot created or replaced title with invisible characters

Status: {{fixed}} - create a new bug, if you find more
Reported by: GoingBatty (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Bot created or replaced a title with a different title with invisible characters
What should happen: Leave existing titles as is or use the title in the HTML source
Relevant diffs/links: * https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Yousef_Abu_Jalboush&diff=prev&oldid=1242970654

We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

@Grimes2: Pinging you to make you aware as you've run the bot to make most of these edits. You might want to use WP:ReFill instead until this is fixed. GoingBatty (talk) 14:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Should my big run be aborted? Grimes2 (talk) 15:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Nah, they populate Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters, which is very easy to cleanup. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

The not-so-bad ones are generally something that I cannot fix (they are the ones with a couple bad characters) since the error exists at the https://wiki.riteme.site/api/rest_v1/#/Citation/getCitation level. The total rubbish ones are usually something I can fix, with better character set detection. Looking at. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

New code does this: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:AManWithNoPlan/sandbox3&oldid=1244018685 AManWithNoPlan (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Newer code: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:AManWithNoPlan/sandbox3&oldid=1244033663 AManWithNoPlan (talk) 17:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Today I reverted some more articles in Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters and reran Citation bot, and the title fields look much better. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Sometimes no author?

Sometimes the bot adds |last and |first (Special:Diff/1244284841), other times it doesn't (a few minutes later: Special:Diff/1244285896). Any ideas as to why? Levivich (talk) 04:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Some of the APIs are not 100% uptime, or just time out. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 21:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

So, {{notabug}}, but I concur that it is a problem. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 00:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

SPPelling

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: SPP.
What should happen: spp.
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User%3AJosve05a%2Fsandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1244729847
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

|article-url=

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Trappist the monk (talk) 13:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: bot replaced bogus |titleurl= in {{cite web}} with |article-url=. No such thing as |article-url= in the context of {{cite web}} (or {{cite news}}, {{cite magazine}}, {{cite journal}})
Relevant diffs/links: Diff

url-status

Status: Not a bug
Reported by: Ɠɧơʂɬɛɖ (talk) 16:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=List_of_Canadian_hip_hop_musicians&diff=prev&oldid=1245809493&diffonly=1

Bot marking urls as duplicate in a citation when [[]] syntax is used in the website= portion of a citation. This immediately got page flagged for using "many disambiguation links", which isn't true.

Also bot giving punctuation choices, this should not be a thing, especially when I copy the citation title verbatim.

Also bot deleted "doi" annotated urls from academic book site.

Not a bug. The bot was correct. Its edit had nothing to do with the wikilink in |website=. Before the bot's edit there were two |url= parameters:

{{Cite web|last=Green|first=Dylan|title=Sewaside III Mike Shabb 2024|date=2024-05-29|url=https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/mike-shabb-sewaside-iii/|access-date=2024-09-14|website=[[Pitchfork]]|url=https://archive.ph/wip/GvEfg|url-status=live }}

That is not allowed. One of them is a mislabeled archive url but it is not in the correct parameter, should be in |archive-url=, nor is there a required |archive-date= parameter. |url-status= was deleted because it requires |archive-url=. Your 'fix' did not fix anything. When error messages occur, they are there for a reason. Please carefully inspect the edit before declaring that the bot has made error. The template was correctly 'fixed' at this edit by another editor.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

parts per million

Status: Fixed
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 04:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Sustainable Fe–PPM Pd and sustainable PPM levels
What should happen: Sustainable Fe–ppm Pd and sustainable ppm levels
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User%3AJosve05a%2Fsandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1245126208

Methods in Neurosciences is a series

Status: Fixed -- added a bunch to the list of series
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [52]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Treat like the other series, Methods in Enzymology, etc... (abbreviations Meth Neurosci and Meth. Neurosci. too) Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Adding invalid "issue" values

Status: Fixed in several ways
Reported by: Folly Mox (talk) 15:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Citation bot is adding |issue= for periodicals where the publisher has just |volume=.
What should happen: Ignore bad CrossRef meta-data
Relevant diffs/links: Special:Diff/1246113267 adds |issue=1 to doi:10.3406/asie.1988.916. Special:Diff/1246113458 adds |issue=1 to doi:10.3406/asie.1989.944 and doi:10.3406/befeo.1983.1463. Special:Diff/1246113319 adds |issue=20220203 to doi:10.3998/ars.13441566.0046.006.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

mojibake

Status: Fixed, zotero has fixed their UTF-8 code, so we no longer have to fix things on the back-end. Should be MUCH better now.
Reported by: Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:00, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: The tool replaces accented words with mojibake.
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Guallatiri&curid=68076023&diff=1246543046&oldid=1219811038
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

This is #Bot adds title with rubbish characters above, which has been completely ignored so far.:Jay8g [V•T•E] 02:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Bot adds title with rubbish characters

Status: {{fixed}} - since zotero is better at handling UTF-8, I have stopped that API from "fixing" characters sets.
Reported by: GoingBatty (talk) 19:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Bot adds title with rubbish characters
What should happen: Add proper title like ReFill does: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=National_Sheriffs%27_Association&diff=1245054351&oldid=1245054286
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=National_Sheriffs%27_Association&diff=1245020406&oldid=1242355818
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Seems like Citation Bot is having a serious problem with special characters and encoding currently. Even simple ones like é are getting messed up ([53]). This seems like an urgent issue since this junk is being added to lots of pages without any obvious way of tracking it.:Jay8g [V•T•E] 05:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Still happening.:Jay8g [V•T•E] 06:44, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Don't change parameters to |osti-access=

Status: {{fixed}}, all non-standard changes are logged and reviewed by me every couple days. The "nearest" parameter code, does very little these days, as the list of approved changes gets longer and longer
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 18:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [54]
What should happen: [55]

I've brought up the issue of Citation Bot converting incorrect access-date parameters to osti-access before and it's been fixed for the specific cases, but it feels like a game of Whac-a-mole at this point. Is there a way to stop Citation Bot from changing any parameters to osti-access? Seems like it's pretty uncommon that that's actually what's intended.

We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Bot replaces citation with garbage characters

Status: {{wontfix}} - crossref has wrong title https://search.crossref.org/?from_ui=yes&q=10.1007%2FBF01397160
Reported by: GoingBatty (talk) 02:54, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Bot replaces citation with garbage characters
What should happen: Nothing, or copy the proper text to the title/journal fields
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Exchange_interaction&diff=1246891180&oldid=1234328040
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Use |trans-title, not |trans-article

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 02:58, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [56]
What should happen: Use a parameter that actually exists (in this case, trans-title)
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Mangled article number after misinterpreting the letter "P" in it as being short for "page"

Status: {{fixed}} will still convert p. 1234, but not p1234
Reported by: —David Eppstein (talk) 04:36, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: For many years we had no |article-number= parameter, so the correct way of recording this datum was in the |page= parameter. It happens that the Electronic Journal of Combinatorics lists article numbers (not pages) for its articles, and that for research papers these article numbers begin with a "P", like "P232". The P is a substantial part of the article number; it distinguishes research papers from other kinds of articles, which use other letters. In Special:Diff/1247624284 the bot, apparently misinterpreting this as a way of writing "p. 232", replaced this with the incorrect article number "232". Nowadays, we should write these citations using |article-number=, but until we are certain that all old citations using |page= have been changed over to the new parameter, this sort of change should not be made.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

"Page" parameter acting incorrectly

Status: {{wontfix}} this one, since there is no meta-data, but I am working on fixing the one below with correct meta-data
Reported by: Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 16:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

What happens: When citing doi:10.1051/e3sconf/202123104001, the bot interprets "article number" as a page number. (Unsure if a bug or a metadata issue, but reporting just in case.)
Relevant diffs/links: Special:Diff/1231943551
Replication instructions: Cite doi:10.1051/e3sconf/202123104001 using cite journal and run Citation Bot.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I have raised this issue in the past. {{cite journal}} supports |article-number= (as does {{citation}} when it has |journal= with an assigned value). The bot should be using |article-number= for article numbers and should not be shoehorning them into |page(s)=.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:24, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

If someone can find an article with proper meta-data, then I can look into doing this. So far, all the complaints have had the data listed as a page in crossref. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 19:10, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

This might require a white list of DOIs or page styles to just convert over, since most databases do not differentiate. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Pages --> Page when there is only one page

Status: {{wontfix}} at this time, for technical reasons.
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Toxic_heavy_metal&diff=prev&oldid=1242794946
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Weird edge case resulted in removing Google Books URL with no other information present

Status: {{fixed}} by logging these and going back and manually fixing them
Reported by: :Jay8g [V•T•E] 07:13, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [57]
Replication instructions: It appears that this happens when there is a broken Google Books URL in a template. The edit summary says "Removed URL that duplicated identifier", but there was no other information in the template other than the page number. The bot should probably just do nothing in this case.
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Those worthless urls do get deleted by the bot. I will look at logging those to go back and fix. The log message is a bit off, that it clear. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 20:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Unnecessary page range

Status: {{wontfix}}
Reported by: Demetrios1993 (talk) 04:16, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: The bot changed a specified page number to a page range reflecting the entirety of the source.
What should happen: Not that
Relevant diffs/links: Diff
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

If "pages" is set to the first page and only the first page, then the bot fixes that. I the correct parameter "page" is used, then the bot does not fix that. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 12:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Bot adds garbage character

Status: {{wontfix}} - This cannot be fixed within the bot, but I have reported this on the Citoid page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Citoid
Reported by: GoingBatty (talk) 18:26, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Bot adds garbage character
What should happen: Use the actual title
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3_Batthy%C3%A1ny-Strattmann&diff=1247036045&oldid=1243284061
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Caps: via=ResearchGate

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:27, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

What should happen: [58]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Same if you find Research Gate --> ResearchGate. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:27, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Subspecies again

Status: {{fixed}} - a bit of whack a mole on punctuation
Reported by: Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 23:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: SPP.
What should happen: spp.
Relevant diffs/links: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User%3AJosve05a%2Fsandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1248512947
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

International Review of Cytology is a series

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

What happens: [59]
What should happen: [60]
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Capitalization: Der der

Status: {{fixed}}
Reported by: —David Eppstein (talk) 06:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

What happens: Changes capitalization from Math. Abh. der Akademie der Wissenschaften zu Berlin to Math. Abh. Der Akademie der Wissenschaften zu Berlin
What should happen: Not that: I'm pretty sure that, however this should be capitalized, inconsistent capitalization of the same word "der" is not correct
Relevant diffs/links: Special:Diff/1249476359
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

Errors after edit

Status: {{notabug}} - probably citation templates being "improved"
Reported by: Z1720 (talk) 06:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

What happens: This edit caused the refs to report as errors
What should happen: Citations appear in the "References" section
Relevant diffs/links: Syphon Filter (video game)
We can't proceed until: Feedback from maintainers

I don't see the errors. Z1720, can you check again? Maybe a transient technical issue with the site software? Folly Mox (talk) 13:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@Folly Mox: Hm, I don't see it anymore either. If it comes up again, I'll take a screen shot. Z1720 (talk) 22:09, 7 October 2024 (UTC)