User talk:WikiOriginal-9

No way

I swore NFL.com was removed and we're now with pfr for height and weight. Calais Campbell's page just came over. We can't argue without a link in the infobox. Am I dreaming this? Dozens are being changed to NFL.com. I admire the salmon! John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:42, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured this would happen when NFL.com was removed. I think it should be changed back to what PFR has. Right now, it is completely unsourced. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:45, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Either we should go with what PFR has or NFL.com should be added back to the infobox. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:48, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Not sure if you like the guy, but I'll revert them all. Also, the pfr links are being added with a slash. I thought I saw you remove that in the past ... even though they link the same page. Any thought on the next step here? It won't end. Besides, it will help me decide the size of the next bottle I open, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

You can go ahead and revert them if you like. Maybe a discussion should be had at WT:NFL. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:01, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

This discussion shit is getting stupid. People do what they want to do. This God damn link isn't even on the page. We need another person coming by and saying he's over 300 ****** pounds now? I'll check each page and see if there's a link. If the only weight is NFL.com, I'll leave it. I don't like going round in circles. I'll leave you alone now before I start to get upset with this. Catch you later on. John Bringingthewood (talk) 23:09, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I know what you mean 100%. Getting consistency around here is near impossible sometimes. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I was just in the process of deleting this all from your messages. Edit conflict, lol. He came back on Campbell's page. There may be a dislike with pfr. Seems like everything is being used but that link. I believe an admin. proposed NFL.com being removed, and I agreed, the conversation should have escalated then I guess. I'm done with it, let it stay there. Try to enjoy your Sunday. :) John Bringingthewood (talk) 23:20, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Sunday? Lol :) ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

HA! I did mean because it was coming soon, lol!! Yeah, I still have grasp of today ... not for long though. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:24, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

And enjoy the rest of today if you really want to. ;) Bringingthewood (talk) 23:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

lol ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:38, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Not familiar with Wikidata. Also not sure why that wasn't an option earlier. My computer is old, but I can view NBA.com on those pages. I always thought the broken NFL.com links were my fault. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:49, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

On the left side of the screen, each article has a "Wikidata item" link. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I see Wikidata item. I just checked the Cap Boso page and they have the pfr link as B/ -- shame on them. No wonder we can never win a damn argument! Bringingthewood (talk) 02:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

I think it works with the slash too. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:15, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

It does, but I did see you remove the B/ before, so I did it also. Hee. You must know by now it's not worth me living if I can't find a future argument with someone out there. P.S. I can let the B/ stay from now on, just say the word, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 02:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Word. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

LOL! Enjoy the rest of your Friday, I mean Tues ... whatever. Until the next time. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 02:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bringingthewood I don't patrol NFL pages that much, but I also assumed it was me that those NFL.com profiles showed almost nothing. LOL. You know what they say about ASS-U-ME.—Bagumba (talk) 06:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba LOL! YEP, NEVER ASSUME! God bless the 'The Odd Couple' for trying to show me the light many moons ago! John. Bringingthewood (talk) 03:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

It's not just you. NFL.com sucks nowadays. Historical players still have profiles for some reason but all their stats are gone. NFL.com even used to show people who were are on the active roster but didn't play (which was a plus over PFR). ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 06:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

I am going to chime in here because I feel like I can have a good conversation with two great and respected editors in my book. The bracket on PFR links is needed at least in my history on here because I have noticed broken links if left out. [1] vs [2]. 1 has the bracket and works. The same goes if a PFR link is used in a table in my history. I do not know where NFL.com or PFR get their information in regard to player weights and heights, but I assume NFL.com has the more accurate data. I could be wrong as it is an assumption. I would also assume PFR pulls from official NFL sources as well and some information just has not been posted yet as we are still in the preseason. As always, if I need to change anything in regard to my edits, just give me a shout. Red Director (talk) 13:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment Red. There's a topic at WT:NFL with more details if you care to read that as well. Thanks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:45, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Regarding SS, I agree with you and I do respect his stay firm attitude when upset with someone. But, another BIG BUT, if not diplomatic here or any other place, you get blocked. Not sure if you were stalking me, lol, when I asked him about telling Admin B. to go ---- himself in so many words. I was pissed when I saw that, being that I got along with both. Bottom line, he won't change, and in some strange way, people really shouldn't. (SS's response to me when asking how he escaped a block here: (What's up man! I actually was retired but decided to come back to stay. Answering your question, I did nothing specific, just expressed myself how I wanted, and to be honest I thought I'd get banned for life, but it didn't happen surprisingly and fortunately. So... just do it, just express your thoughts.) John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Lol, I know. It's like he was trying to get blocked. He pretty much dug his own "grave". ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, looks that way. If he returns, it's all on Wikipedia, lol. I won't throw dirt on him ... like I wouldn't throw dirt on you. So, you better %^%!!~$%R^^VHGVYXZ$%^%&^##%$E&^YGVCDTD%^R^Y^%WTR

... not throw dirt on me either. Hee, only kidding, lololol. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

How did that box get there? HA! I'll leave you alone now. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

loll lol. I think you had an extra space at the beginning of your paragraph or something. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:28, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Normally I would not have returned, but whatever you did to remove the box sent me an alert that you mentioned me on your talk page. You didn't. Double-HA! This place is getting creepy. Enjoy your night! John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Huh, that's a new one. I guess converting your box to plain text pinged you since your name was there. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Or maybe it's just the Curse of Windows Vista!! We'll try it out again one day ... when I grasp that extra space thing. :/ Bringingthewood (talk) 00:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

It definitely was. Sorry. Thank God you saw that. It's that damn curse up there, I know I added a capital "P" to a practice squad somewhere. I even put (caps) in the edit summary. What THAT WAS I do not know. I know I can't preview my edits, but that was ******* ridiculous. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Besides, (-345) bytes is a lot of cap fixing, lol! Bringingthewood (talk) 22:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

OK sounds good lol. Maybe you looking at an old version of the page and just forgot? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:18, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

That sounds like something I would do. Past previews helped me with that. The squash is getting softer ... I can't lose many more perks here. Glad it was you that saw this first, otherwise it's usually a good way to get into an argument, lol. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Quick question. Can the common slob amend something on Commons? I ask because I wanted to fix T. J. Watt's middle name over there. I thought I could just edit like over here. My name is in red and it says 'user page doesn't exist'. Just wondering .. no rush to respond. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 05:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Looks like it's just grabbing from WikiData. General rule of thumb is that if you see a "save" button, nobody is (immediately) stopping you. —Bagumba (talk) 06:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I fixed it on WikiData. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Funny thing is that when I did get to one part of the page I could edit it, but it was correct, Trent Jordan Watt. I was trying to edit this page under the photo. John is his father. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:T.J._Watt Bringingthewood (talk) 23:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

I just edited his commons page and saved it without changing anything, so now the page has been "refreshed" and it has the correct middle name. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, you're amazing. Speaking of amazing skills .. I left Jeff Faulkner's nationality for you. I didn't know what to put exactly. John Bringingthewood (talk) 00:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

It looks like he might be both according to United States Virgin Islander citizenship and nationality. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:13, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I agree. I'm also glad I left it for you, I wouldn't have done that, lol. Also, you don't use a dash. I can stop with Jamaican-born etc. if you want. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I usually put a dash for dual nationality but I wasn't sure how to do Virgin Islanders? I saw "American Virgin Islander" on some other articles so I just copied that. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Besides, these rose-colored glasses seem to work just fine. Thanks for everything! John Bringingthewood (talk) 00:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Wording

Probably just forgetting, but where was it decided that this was the way NFL player leads were to be worded? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Football_League/Archive_24#Proposal. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11: While I agree the old lead was perfectly fine, here is my thought process for the new lead:

1. If you look at Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, or Wayne Gretzky, they all say "American former professional xxxxx player".

2. We don't want to have redundant leads like "is an American professional American football" or "is a Canadian professional Canadian football quarterback in the Canadian Football League".

3. Nationality actually matters in the CFL, and before there were tons of American players that said "is a Canadian football". Now, it's easier to tell if they're American or Canadian (or "Global").

4. Most of the people going to NFL player articles already know what type of football it is. "Football" is wiki-linked for the few who might be confused. (And if they're not American or Canadian, I've been putting "Nigerian professional American football") Templates like "Use American English" exist for a reason. We may as well use it.

5. Dirtlawyer1 used to do it the "new way" and he had good judgement about stuff.

6. That discussion was months ago and no one has said anything about Bagumba changing a bunch of leads on former players. No one said anything at Tom Brady.

7. It also lets us add "professional", which I think looks good in the leads of players. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:22, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Just wondering

Hi there. Just wanted to know if you were sending out some invitations or if it was in error. Lirim Hajrullahu the Kosovo guy got one with nine edits. I thought it was kind of strange. Sorry if I missed something here. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I invited him. It's not everyday a real player shows up lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:27, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm taking that as you're kidding, lol. No joke if they join. Do you have blocking powers down the road? Just saying, lol. That guy with the long name, (WiTSH), surprised me the other day, and I think he was surprised also that he received an invite. Well, football is coming. :) Bringingthewood (talk) 01:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

"WiTSH" edits NFL articles so I invited him. There aren't any requirements for joining WikiProjects. Anyone can join anything. Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I know and I hear you, that's what scares me, lol. I was thinking .. maybe someone can pretend to play quarterback for the Steelers. I guess I'm back to rooting for sacks! Have a good end to your weekend. (I do know it's Saturday.) @@ Bringingthewood (talk) 02:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks. I thought I strayed too far there. Not to be misunderstood, YOU didn't scare me .. it's the people that join on their own (at times). Should be invite only. I was honored to be asked, I never would have thought of it. The Steelers project doesn't count .. nobody seems to really want that, lol. Trust me, the day I invite someone .. they will remove U.S. from all the infoboxes. Bringingthewood (talk) 03:12, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

No problem, I knew that's what you meant, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:16, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank God. :) Bringingthewood (talk) 03:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

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Strength and conditioning coaches

I've run into a few like Cedric Scott that have the some of the most redundant lead sentences. How many people actually know of them as coaches as opposed to former players? Is it wishful thinking to customize these cases on this cookie-cutter, crowd-sourced platform? —Bagumba (talk) 10:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba: I know, I've seen some bad ones. It annoys me when people instantly change someone's whole lead to being a coach just because they're an assistant somewhere. Andrew Luck's infobox used to say his "current_team" was some high school and his position in the infobox was literally "part-time coach", not even a quarterback anymore. Drive-by editors always do that with high schools. Until a few days ago, Pro Football HOFer Jason Taylor was using infobox college coach, and his lead started with "is an American football coach" just because he's an assistant in college. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:05, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh yeah, the blanket college infobox practice beecause Joe Blow from the 1900s was a football, basketball and baseball coach as well as an AD, all in one, so the modern day college coach needs to use that same ibx, becuase the readers will otherwise be confused. —Bagumba (talk) 12:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba: In regards to Cedric Scott, he only played 13 games in the NFL and has been a coach for the Jaguars for 12 years, so I'd probably leave that one how it is for now, starting with "American professional football coach and former player". We can change it to "former player and coach" when he retires later maybe. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Haha. I was mostly ranting. I'm doing my own cookie-cutter "professional"/"former American" edits, so improving lower-tier coach leads takes a back seat. —Bagumba (talk) 12:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

I know, if you do a lot of the high level articles first, people will start changing the low levels to that eventually. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

It's taken 5 years or so, and arguments like "it's more typing", "but everyone knows the NFL is professional", "the Euros will be confused", "Spanish-speakers don't call that fútbol", etc. —Bagumba (talk) 12:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

What do you mean Bagumba, don't you just love leads like "is a Canadian professional Canadian football quarterback for the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League". ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:52, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Right up there with "is an America football coach who is the head football coach of the University of Michigan Wolverines football team." —Bagumba (talk) 13:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

lol lol. How should we write that one? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:26, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm thinking "American college football coach who is the head coach of the Michigan Wolverines"? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

No "currently"? LOL. —Bagumba (talk) 04:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I forgot "it's just a guideline that says should", and I'm sure we'll revivisit "It's just a recommendation" soon. —Bagumba (talk) 06:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I wonder what the WP:MOS people think about it, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 06:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

There's already thousands of "English professional footballer"s. —Bagumba (talk) 06:26, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba: Did you know that this guy's main claim to fame was not being a football coach, but being a "former American football coach". I think I saw a NYT article about how he was the greatest former coach ever. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

"was a former" for apparent emphasis[3] —Bagumba (talk) 01:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Wow lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Non-American

Something like "is a German former professional American football defensive end" is just too many adjectives for one noun. I changed to "is a German former professional player of American football who was a defensive end" (hat tip to Dirtlawyer).[4] —Bagumba (talk) 09:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Sergio Skol SPI

I indeffed that sockpuppet before seeing that you originally opened up an SPI report last week with the exact same suspicions. Good work identifying that sock! Sorry that the SPI sat there for too long and you withdrew the case, sometimes it takes longer for admins/CheckUsers to act if they aren't immediately familiar with the sockpuppeteer and their edits. If you have any strong suspicions about other accounts being socks, feel free to drop me a line on my talk page for (hopefully) quicker results. Thanks! Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Eagles247: Yeah, it looked like he was going to get unblocked at his talk page so I didn't really wanna stand in the way. He didn't necessarily get blocked for bad edits, mainly civility. Thanks for the note. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you 28x!!! Haven't had a full watchlist in weeks, lol. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks BTW, but I'm not sure what you mean by full watchlist? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot to mention that, just another perk. I can only view the last 50 on my watchlist. That option also went bye-bye on 4/6/23. That's fine with me, I knocked my list watchlist pages down last week .... but you get a pat on the back for finding what I have left, lol. Good to see a familiar name! Bringingthewood (talk) 21:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Oh ok, I see, lol. You can click preferences at the top right and then watchlist on the next screen, if you want. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:03, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

I did just about everything, changed it to 30 days and saved it ... still no good. But thanks for telling about the preference tab, I only had one box left unchecked. Now I can see changes in bold since I was last here. That gives me a new look at least. Little things excite me. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:11, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for the thanks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thank you. Maybe one day when I get a new computer I won't have to copy and paste every x and pipe each time. That symbol drop box was awesome. Enjoy your NFL weekend if you're watching. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi there. I don't like these .. so I give John Hagy to you, lol. Thanks, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Looks like his dad was in the Air Force ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, but at least you do a bunch of things on a page. Beats one mistake I would make. Thanks for that. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Just checking if a button got stuck on your side. You have now reached your 2024 'thank you' quota, lol. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 17:59, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

lol lol ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:11, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

I know my computer acts up .. but never in a good way. I'd send you 50 in a row, but it would look fake, lol. I'll make up for it one day, maybe by 2028! Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your week! John. Bringingthewood (talk) 18:17, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Review

Hi.WikiOriginal-9,Nice to meet you again, can you please mark Govind Mohan as reviewed and if you see any grammatical error in my article, please rectify them. Happy editing!--- ᗩvírαm7 • (@píng mє-tαlk mє) 13:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Props

I do not know how you and other editors can keep up with watchlists during NFL Sundays lol. There are some good eggs out there trying to be helpful but the vandalism can be rampant. I try to stay away from current players' articles during those periods to make life a little easier. Red Director (talk) 13:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Who says I'm keeping up with it? lol ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Haha I understand. I try to sometimes and it is best to let the storm calm down over a few days. Red Director (talk) 18:34, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

I have over 18K pages on my watchlist. I just skip over a lot of stuff unless it looks suspicious, especially on days like yesterday. Also, not all those 18K pages are articles of course. That is for all namespaces. Thanks Red. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Your revert at List of family relations in American football

Thank you! I believe I reverted that on mobile, believing it to have been an edit to List of NFL nicknames instead. In my head I was saying, no way we include everybody being called by their name on there! Anyways, good catch, and I just wanted to explain that weird edit of mine lol. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the explanation. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		For all of your edits. You are a pillar to the community Red Director (talk) 18:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Red Director: Wow, that means a lot. Thanks! (also, that's my first barnstar from you somehow, lol) ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Howard Hancock

I saved the data on Hancock's tie record and put it in his biography. Cbl62 (talk) 03:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

@Cbl62: Okay, thanks Cbl. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Baseball pics

I've noticed you've added a lot of player pics to their individual baseball bio articles. THANKS! It looks great. Bob305 (talk) 12:06, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Bob. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:40, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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Fair use images of wrestling figures

My watchlist informed me that you're adding non-free images to professional wrestling biographies. It appears you're existing in a vacuum doing so. A discussion recently concluded on Commons which showed that hundreds if not thousands of wrestling magazines are in the public domain and freely accessible on Internet Archive. These magazines contain photos of people for which you're claiming no free equivalent exists. Even if you pay no attention to what occurs on Commons, I have left comments at WT:PW at several points describing the process and its outcome. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 12:15, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

A lot of those were deleted too. (c:Commons:Deletion requests/Professional wrestling magazines) It's hard to tell what's public domain or not when it comes to those magazines. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Actually, it's pretty simple. If it isn't to you, that's what WT:PW or Commons:Village pump is for, to collaborate with more knowledgeable editors. Digging further, I found editing activity of yours on Commons in furtherance of this goal. Between that and your statement above, you're quite aware of what you're doing. Uploading non-free images simply because someone else hasn't uploaded a free equivalent to Commons and claiming that a free equivalent doesn't exist isn't the least bit compatible with the notion that we take copyright very seriously around here. You're begging to be dragged into FFD over this. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 13:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Do you have a list of all the ones that are public domain? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:11, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm just getting started on that. It's a little more ambitious than filling holes in infoboxes. CeltBrowne has also started doing work in this area, so maybe they have something to say. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

https://studiowrestling.blogspot.com/2018/02/local-promos-in-wral-studio.html starts by saying "This great studio shot from the WRAL TV studios in Raleigh, NC was featured in one of the Weston magazines in 1979." In other words, a free image of Rich Landrum exists. I haven't tracked down the specific issue yet in order to provide attribution. I've downloaded a few other issues containing free images of others, though. I'll see what kind of time I have to process those images. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:27, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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There were some of these uploads that are clearly problematic, so I have taken them to FFD. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:05, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Danton Barto

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DYK for Thomas Bertrand-Hudon

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RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11: Is this supposed to be on the main page today? I don't see it. Thanks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

It looks like its currently hook number five (below 'that a New Testament manuscript was "barbarously scored with red chalk" by a book publisher?' and above '... that the 1998 cyberpunk short story "CyberJoly Drim" caused a controversy in the Polish science fiction and fantasy community?'). Do you see it now? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

OK I see it now. When you click the October 1 link in that message above, it leads to different stuff. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:12, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

The poor edits are already starting, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Pfr numbers

Hi there. The only reason I went with 55 and 92 first, regarding Riley Morris, was because pfr had the Oakland Raiders with those numbers from 1960-1962. Not sure why teams after that would have numbers listed before them. I was always going with chronological order with the numbers. My bad screwing it up. I understand it is a good article and I sometimes jump the gun. P.S. I did notice that the Chargers were the only team listed before the Raiders in the infobox, but we spoke earlier about that ridiculous addition of offseason and practice squad numbers being added. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. The number order for this one is from PFA, which I just added to the infobox. Thanks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

First, you never have to apologize. Second, is PFA .. like the Hebrew National of stats, you know, a higher authority? I just don't want to screw up a good page thinking I did something the right way. Honest question. Also, I did see the reference before I sent this, not sure what PFA meant, as in being a go to over pfr. And should I stop doing those things. :/ John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:58, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

There wasn't any reference when you changed it so no big deal. Keep doing what you're doing. PFR and PFA are usually the same but this guy's PFA page specifically said 73 for 1960, so it's probably just missing from his PFR page. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I agree with you .. not him, lol. PFA had practice squad numbers in the past. That probably added to the infoboxes with nine numbers. The Raiders were the first legit team and it looked like a slam dunk to me. Oh well. Thanks for the reply. Always appreciated. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Are you sure? I'm 99% positive PFA has never had practice squad numbers. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I saw users that added numbers, did my homework and saw that PFA had them listed with a number prior to the season. I've removed some over the last year. But honestly, when a person is on the bench with a number, I guess he's wearing a number, lol. But I like the pfr way. I'm guessing some sites believe if you're on a team, and a number was issued, it should e listed ... others you have to play a professional game. Another Wiki area I asked about over a year ago .. what is the correct way? I've always said, too many ins and outs here, lol. I'm not losing sleep over it. :) John. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

On a lighter note, being that you're the bright bulb in the lamp ... do you think when Watt retires, could a good article come about? I'd help to do it. I suck with adding references, but I'd help in some kind of way. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

It's probably not that far off now. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:37, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Ahhh, you made my night! Hopefully I didn't ruin yours. That "100" better come on Sunday .. just saying. Enjoy the rest of your week and always remember to stop me sooner than later. ;) Thanks for the conversation, it's never forgotten. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

No problem. Keep up the good work. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:46, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you and you do the same. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:54, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Non-professional

sock —Bagumba (talk) 01:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

facepalm* lol

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{{List of NFL players}}

Thoughts on how to handle Lists of Green Bay Packers players and Green Bay Packers all-time roster on your newly created template? Not sure if it should be one or the other, or both? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

It's for all-time rosters. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of Kansas City Chiefs players, List of Chicago Bears players and List of Los Angeles Rams players are not of the "all-time roster variety". List of Seattle Seahawks players is a broken redirect to a section at Seattle Seahawks. I actually contemplated moving all of these all-time roster lists to more appropriately titled "TEAM all-time roster" and then moving the one that provide navigation to notable lists to "Lists of TEAM players", similar to how I did for the Green Bay Packers. Thoughts? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:02, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

That will work. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

I'll put it on my longterm to-do list. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, how did you go about generating a list of players by team? Did you use PFR? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:48, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Here is the process from my sandbox (@Red Director: helped come up with part of this process):

I created an NFL player "master list" txt file by combining everything in my List of NFL players by name and then pasted it into the first column of an Excel worksheet. I then "split" the column (Data --> Text to Columns --> Delimited) into two separate columns at the < symbol (from <ref). I then used find and replace: 1. Find "ref>{{Cite web|url=https" and replace with "https" 2. Find ".htm" and replace with ".htm*" (to delete text before a certain character use (*char), to delete text after a certain character use (char*))

So now I just have Column A of already disambiguated article names and Column B of bare urls. I then saved my master Excel spreadsheet so I will not have to do the steps before this every time. Everything that follows below, I will have to do every time but it doesn't take that long.

Steps to generate an NFL all-time roster:

1. Open Excel master file.

2. Use LinkClipper at a PFR all-time roster page (Cardinals example) to extract the player URLs into a txt file.

3. Open LinkClipped txt file and remove all non-relevant text.

4. Paste URLS under Column B in Excel.

5. Conditional Formatting --> Highlight Cells Rules --> Duplicate Values (this highlights duplicate URLs)

6. Custom sort --> expand selection --> sort by color --> no color on bottom.

7. Paste the list of highlighted players on-wiki (Example: User:WikiOriginal-9/List of Arizona Cardinals players)

8. Make sure number of players matches what PFR has.

9. Use "find and replace" and ReFill to fill out referencing on-wiki.

10. Done.

I'm planning to update the lists from here on out at the end of each postseason. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:11, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Wow! I really just wish that PFR had a single page for each team. Seems like such an easy thing to program and would make citing so much easier. Nice work! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, I'm not sure why they don't do that. I've emailed them about it before.

You can still look up all-time rosters though (the PFR guy told me about this, and it's where the Cardinals example linked above came from). If you go to "Frivolities" and "Players who played for multiple teams" and put the same team twice, it produces an all-time roster. Here is the Cardinals one. Just go down to the "All Players" section to see the all-time roster "2104 players played for each of these franchises." There is also an option to export that table to wikicode, Excel, and some other stuff. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:14, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Haha thanks for that end-around! That's pretty funny. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:20, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the shoutout. I'm happy to be part of the solution. Red Director (talk) 01:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Original Barnstar
		Fantastic work in writing List of NFL players and getting it to mainspace! BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks BF. I've been working on it since 2016. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:49, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Great work my friend! Red Director (talk) 17:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Red. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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Detroit Lions brief history

Do you think it would be acceptable if I added a brief summary of the history of the Detroit Lions to the main article itself? It would not be a straight copy and paste but a minor rewrite and summarize of the History article. They are the only team of the 32 active teams that do not have that on their main article strangely. Red Director (talk) 14:04, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Go ahead. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:07, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

iGlue

Hello @WikiOriginal-9

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John Moore birthplace

You sourced it to Basketball Reference, which is overall reliable, but they often conflate birthplace with hometown. For a contemporary player, I'd try to find a prose source that says "born in" explicitly. But I don't expect to find that in this case. C'est la vie. —Bagumba (talk) 05:25, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Of course, I did source Don Bragg (basketball)'s birthplace to bbr LOL. I think the other reason I was hesitant about Moore was becuase it just said "in Gary, Indiana" without anything before e.g. born or died.[5] —Bagumba (talk) 04:35, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm guessing that's because Moore doesn't have a birthdate listed so born doesn't display. I just saw that the FAQ section at the bottom said he was born there. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:32, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

But BBR's wrong on John Green: Minnesota, not California.[6] They obviously just assumed because he graduated from a CA HS, but he didn't even move out of MN until his junior year.—Bagumba (talk) 20:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Feel free to change Moore. My edit summary said "If you were leaving it off intentionally, feel free to revert". ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, was just musing, I wasn't railing specifically on Moore. —Bagumba (talk) 20:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba: If you ever need a break from updating football bio leads, there are a lot of women's college basketball season articles that need updated.

Did you know ... that the 2013–14 Eastern Washington Eagles men's basketball team will represent Eastern Washington University during the 2013–14 NCAA Division I women's basketball season.

Note how the lead of that says men's but it's for the women's team. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba: Sorry for the double ping but I just fixed the link above and wanted to make sure that you saw the corrected version because it is really funny. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Not many others getting a laugh.[7] —Bagumba (talk) 21:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Not sure I want to invest time in leads that anyways fail MOS:AVOIDBOLD. —Bagumba (talk) 21:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Hugh Smith (Q18819486) and Hugh Smith (physician)

Hello WikiOriginal-9n wondering if you could take a look at the article, the dates of birth/death. Thank you so much for your time. Lotje (talk) 05:31, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article is now linked to the correct Wikidata item (the Hugh Smith who died in 1790). ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much Lotje (talk) 12:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Waltiea Rolle

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DYK for Danton Barto

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Looks like they applied a one-link quota to your hook. LOL.—Bagumba (talk) 16:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Where do they change the hooks before they go live? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

It gets shoved in a prep area and later queue, where people can edit it further. If you're picky, you track as it moves before it lands on the Main Page. There's always a debate on what's cosmetic vs. what's a material change and when a courtesy ping should be given. On the one hand, the bolded link is the main deal, and the rest can be a distraction and is probably linked in the article anyways. But sometimes there's seemingly no rhyme or reason. And there's something to be said for respecting nominator intent, all things being equal. —Bagumba (talk) 17:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

I can't find the specific edit it got changed at. I don't mind though. It's just confusing to backtrack and try to find it, there's like 7 prep and queue areas. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 04:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

The prep area is usually in the edit summary of the nom when it get promoted.[8] The change was here It then goes into its respective queue before it goes on the MP. —Bagumba (talk) 11:32, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

I see now. Thanks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 11:58, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

the, the, the

Another funny quirk is repeating "the" for every item in a comma-separated sequence.[9] Or is it me? —Bagumba (talk) 16:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

It's not just you. I always fix those. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Rollback

Can you explain why you used rollback on Special:Diff/1252172173? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

He's 5'10" at cagematch. The source in the infobox doesn't have height. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 04:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

That website's gurus shoved a sideways "Stats" tab on the right, which does have 6'2". But I think the point might have been more that WP:ROLLBACKUSE doesn't cover incorrect info. We know there are height vandals, but I usually just AGF and write "unsourced" in the edit summary for anything remotely reasonable e.g. not 10'6", 2'4", etc. —Bagumba (talk) 04:34, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

You just changed sourced content again without proving an inline citation. Don't do this again. If you can't figure out how to use the cited website, maybe you should just stop editing this article? Click the big red banner saying "superstar stats", and it says Height: 6'2". This is getting disruptive, so I'm going to give you some discretionary alerts. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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List of players by defunct NFL franchises

Do you think I should move the following, or leave as is:

• List of players by defunct NFL franchises → All-time rosters by defunct NFL franchises
• List of players by defunct NFL franchises (Akron Indians/Pros–Frankford Yellow Jackets) → All-time rosters by defunct NFL franchises (Akron Indians/Pros–Frankford Yellow Jackets)
• List of players by defunct NFL franchises (Hammond Pros–Washington Senators) → All-time rosters by defunct NFL franchises (Hammond Pros–Washington Senators)

What do you think? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:13, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

That will work. Could you move Buffalo Bills al-time roster? Looks like a typo snuck through on that one. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Hopefully that's the only mistake *facepalm* « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

That's the only one. I have this thing enabled that highlights redirects, so I noticed the Bills list highlighted green at Template:List of NFL players. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:30, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

What tool is that? I would love to highlight redirects! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:34, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

User:Anomie/linkclassifier. It highlights a bunch of other stuff too, see the key here. You might be able to adjust it if you don't want all of that though, not sure. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Professional wrestling alert, too

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DYK for Christian Albright

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GAN

I have a few more GANs if you're interested: Canada All-Stars (football), Cliff Brumbaugh, Larry Kennedy (baseball), Garnett Wikoff, Herbert Gidney (track), Fred Narganes (wrestling), Paul Chadick (basketball) and Herbert Polzhuber (fencing). Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I should. I've reviewed a lot of yours already. If you actually win or something, there might be drama... ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

I see. A little disappointed I probably won't be able to win a second title, but thanks for all the ones you've already reviewed. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Maybe you can ask some other people? How many more GAs were you planning to do anyway? It looks like you're 900 points behind right now. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:49, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

I had been planning on maybe 10 more Packers articles (up to 1468) and had in addition to the eight listed above (1748) probably at least 10 others that could be nominated (2098), in addition to the seven from last year that I could've worked on (2343). BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Nominated a few others, if you have the time: Elvio Porcel de Peralta (the other football), J. Nash McCrea (cycling), Madeo Molinari, Bob Hainlen, Lonny Calicchio, Mark Thompson, Rod Taylor, Karl Thielscher, Graham Kernwein (football); also had David Petway from a few days back that was initially for Gonzo, although he said he couldn't review it due to being a significant contributor (it is pretty short though...). Also, although non-sports, I do have one other GA nomination in Joseph L. Cahall (politics). BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

David Petway is too short I think. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 04:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

For someone who played 16 years in the modern era and has the most red cards ever, Elvio Porcel de Peralta looks a little short. I doubt there's much else out there about J. Nash McCrea (he's pretty obscure), so I'll go ahead and review that one. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:23, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

I nominated a couple others, which will probably be the last: Bethwel Henry, Henri Claireaux, Armwell Long (politics), Fran Foley, Grant Hermanns, George Schollenberger (football). (Last one's a little short though...) BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm thinking George Schollenberger could be expanded some more. The article says his son wrote a book about him, and SI had him ranked "28th on their 1999 list of the "50 Greatest Sports Figures From Delaware" so I wonder if there isn't some more info out there that could be added. For example, the article doesn't really say how many state titles he won or anything. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

It looks like someone else decided to take Schollenberger; in replacement, do you think you might be able to review John Wiltbank or perhaps Oh Yoon-kyung (chunk of the content for the latter is from Han Bong-zin, which you previously reviewed)? Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:19, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Also nominated one other in Kim Bong-hwan, another member of the '66 North Korean Cup team. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• Do you think you might be able to add to the reviews something like a sentence saying that no issues were found in the spotchecks per Wikipedia_talk:WikiCup#GAs_that_haven't_been_properly_reviewed? Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  I did find issues though. If people look at the individual reviews, they can see lots of instances where I question things after reviewing sources. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  I know – but according to Epicgenius at the link we need something at the review saying that a spotcheck was done and either no issues were found or all issues addressed in order for the GAs to count. Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Alright... which ones need the note added? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Those at Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2024/log. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:04, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Sorry to keep bugging you, do you think you'll be able to leave the notes for Wikoff thru Bong-hwan within the next 5 hours? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Chancellor

Lol at that one revert of Kam Chancellor. What makes a editor want to make the man gain ten pounds in retirement? Red Director (talk) 13:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure, they didn't provide a source, naturally. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I doubt Chancellor is out running combines this long into retirement. Some of those are humorous before the revert. Red Director (talk) 13:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

@Red Director: I noticed you have been reverting vandalism lately? I thought you didn't use a watchlist? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

I do use a watchlist more these days. I organized it to mainly show the articles I have been working on for a while. It makes it easier to keep up with. Definetly helps the fight in my opinion. I did not realize how helpful a well-organized one could be. Red Director (talk) 13:14, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

That's good because I had to start removing stuff from my watchlist. I have 21K pages on it (that's all namespaces, not all articles of course). A year ago I started adding like every player I edited to my watchlist but I've been removing stuff lately because my watchlist was getting to big to keep up with (unless it's an article I created, expanded, or an article I'm specifically interested in). ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:19, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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