Talk:Typhoon Gay

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Class of article

This has enough info to be a B, but I left it as start because I think the organization is inferior and I'm sure there's more info to be found on the India impact. Jdorje 03:06, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, how about now? íslenska hurikein #12 _(samtal) 15:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now the main problem is lack of information. Hurricanehink (talk) 17:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've dropped this to a stub. The infobox states over 1000 casualties of which 69 were in India and 91 further casualties are identified. I would not a few deaths were in an unknown location, but 85% of Gay's deaths are unaccounted for. Where were they and how come that location is not mentioned in the article at all?--Nilfanion (talk) 20:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually according to the PDF it were only 39 in India. The ones missing were those in Chumphon (458) as well as about 600 fishermen in the Gulf of Thailand. I have added these into the text. andy 20:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the black and white pictures are pretty, and need replacements. Here is a shot of the storm before its Thailand landfall, though the Indian landfall might be a little hard. Hurricanehink 20:29, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Went back to start class, since over half the deaths are accounted for now, and we have inline references now. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:07, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Intensity

37073 10/31/1989 M=11 76 SNBR=3988 GAY         XING=0 SSS=3                          
37074 10/31*0000000   0    0*0000000   0    0*0721052   0 1008*0751048   0 1008*
37075 11/01*0731036  24 1007*0761033  24 1006*0771029  26 1006*0791025  28 1005*
37076 11/02*0811023  33 1001*0821020  35  997*0861019  37  995*0891017  43  994*
37077 11/03*0921015  51  990*0981011  60  983*1011008  70  978*1031003  75  975*
37078 11/04*1060998  81  968*1080990  74  978*1120980  61  980*1120976  66  985*
37079 11/05*1140968  72  985*1170959  75  985*1210948  72  990*1240937  69  990*
37080 11/06*1250925  69  990*1300913  72  985*1340901  74  980*1370891  77  975*
37081 11/07*1390881  84  970*1420871  89  965*1450861  93  960*1460850  93  965*
37082 11/08*1460838  93  970*1460826  92  980*1470815  89  985*1480804  87  995*
37083 11/09*1500791  60 1000*1510779  35 1005*1580765  31    0*1660755  22    0*
37084 11/10*1760746  18    0*1810740  13    0*0000000   0    0*0000000   0    0*
37085 HR SRC=jtwc_wp:tokyo:hko  S/N=1989305N07105

I pulled this from IBTrACS[1]. I thought this needs to be fixed as it would be too confusing for readers to say that the 1999 one and Gonu were both stronger than this storm. However, 960 is a great deal higher than 898. These sources aren't New Delhi either, unlike the 1991 Bangladesh cyclone I already changed. Potapych (talk) 15:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IMD

http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=Z0_Tc_pKXKEC&oi=fnd&pg=PA417&dq=The+Machilipatnam+Cyclone&ots=UPuCsYT1tL&sig=FYBaLYkvLWoiWDEfuoEEN7Q6ddo#v=onepage&q=The%20Machilipatnam%20Cyclone&f=false Found this journal that uses IMD intensitys.Jason Rees (talk) 23:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Newspaper results

Move to Talk:Typhoon Gay (1989)/newspapers - Results will be there from India, Thailand, etc.Jason Rees (talk) 16:55, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indian deaths and damage

According to this journal from which i found the IMD intensity - there was 51 deaths and 140 million rupees worth of damage.Jason Rees (talk) 16:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Typhoon Gay (1989)/GA1

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Requested move 7 January 2019

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The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 23:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Gay (1989) → Cyclone Gay (1989) – Having typhoon as part of the name confuses me as the cyclone was mainly known for it's existence in the Bay of Bengal and its impact to India. Plus, the cyclone spent more time in the Bay of Bengal than the Gulf of Thailand. I think Cyclone Gay would be a more appropriate name. The year is optional. -INeedSupport- ^:3 22:28, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I personally disagree with your view @INeedSupport: as i feel that the system had its greatest impact as a typhoon on Thailand rather than on India as a Cyclone.Jason Rees (talk) 02:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose @INeedSupport: "mainly known for it's existence in the Bay of Bengal and impact to India." – no, the Thai impact was also very significant. Also, convention for basin-crossing storms is that for hurricane-strength systems, the originating basin's (here the western Pacific's) label (here "typhoon") is maintained.--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:39, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose. Impact in Thailand was much, much more significant than in India. (Please read the impact section.) Sources from the article also continue to refer to Gay as a typhoon even when in the Bay of Bengal. ~ KN2731 {t · c} 11:23, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME over 20 times the page hits עם ישראל חי (talk) 15:43, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose became a typhoon in the WPAC. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 01:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose IMD did not name cyclones in their basins at that time. Cyclone Gay technically does not exist, only Cyclone BOB 07. Nova Crystallis (Talk) 01:26, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Date format

The article originally used MDY formatting; this was changed by Seligne in this edit (though incompletely; Bofuses has recently cleaned up the inconsistency). If there is consensus to retain the DMY formatting this should be noted at the top of the article via {{Use dmy dates}}. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:24, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Preach ate chew. --Bofuses (talk) 17:20, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 June 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) SilverLocust (talk) 07:50, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Gay (1989) → Typhoon Gay – Most significant storm with this name in terms of damages and fatalities 📖 (💬/📜) 04:49, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have anything in terms of WP:COMMON or WP:PRIMARYTOPIC? If so, happy to support. I don't see much reason for Primary Topic. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 00:55, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@EmeraldRange A small part of WP:WPTC/S's guideline on the year of storms says Any storm that is the clear primary topic, however, should get the main title (without the year), regardless of its retirement status. The only typhoon named Gay and has its own article is 1992. 1989 caused more than half a billion dollars compared to 1992, which has no reported damages. 1989 also has over a thousand deaths, but 1992 has only one. The other typhoons that have this name had no recorded damages and deaths. Using this rule, 1989 is the primary topic. 📖 (💬/📜) 04:36, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, Support per your points EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 13:50, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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