Talk:Pokémon Concierge

Proof that this is an original net anime (ONA).

@Spanneraol: in your edit description you wrote "thats not what that definition is used for... net anime is stuff just on the internet, netflix doesnt qualify".

Now take a look at the following Wikipedia articles:
- Cagaster of an Insect Cage
- Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
- Ghost in the Shell: SAC_2045

Each series was created specifically for Netflix, and they're all classified as ONAs. Knowing this, I think it would be appropriate to classify Pokémon Concierge as an ONA as well. 2600:8802:1913:1F00:A814:4DED:3F0A:8859 (talk) 03:12, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes they are anime.. but to say it's a "original net anime" implies it is shown on a website on the net.. not on a streaming network like netflix. those other shows you mention were not produced by netflix and were just licensed by them as secondary markets. Spanneraol (talk) 03:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Netflix is a website on the net. And it doesn't matter if Netflix produced the work or not. All the shows I listed above premiered on Netflix. Same with Pokémon Concierge. 2600:8802:1913:1F00:BC9B:77FB:2E6A:2DD6 (talk) 04:13, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Netflix is not a website, it's an app and a streaming service.. it's not the same thing... the others premiered in japan first before the netflix premiere and there are no sources describing these two as net animes. Spanneraol (talk) 05:12, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Here are some sources:

• Source 1: https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/anime/list-of-all-the-anime-releasing-in-2023-101701702467891.html#:~:text=Original%20Net%20Animation%20%28ONA%29%20series%2C%20%22Pok%C3%A9mon%20Concierge%22
• Source 2: https://www.screennearyou.com/tv-shows/anime-series-hitting-screens-in-december-2023/#:~:text=ONA%20%28Original%20Net%20Animation%29%20series
• Source 3: https://www.pagalparrot.com/anime-series-of-2023-in-store-for-you/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CPok%C3%A9mon%20Concierge%E2%80%9D%20is%20an%20Original%20Net%20Animation%20%28ONA%29%20series

Also, Cagaster of an Insect Cage, Cyberpunk: Edgerunners, Ghost in the Shell: SAC_2045 all don't have citations that verify that they are ONAs. They are just called ONAs by Wikipedia editors because all the different facts within the article fit the ONA definition.

And you can watch movies and shows right in your browser at netflix.com. But since you say Netflix isn't a website, that would make YouTube, Vimeo, and others not websites either. 2600:8802:1913:1F00:BC9B:77FB:2E6A:2DD6 (talk) 14:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I still feel you are using the term incorrectly, but I don't feel strongly enough to keep debating it.. as long as you have sources calling it that then go ahead and make your changes. Spanneraol (talk) 21:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. 2600:8802:1913:1F00:BC9B:77FB:2E6A:2DD6 (talk) 22:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Is it really stop motion?

The article describes the production as stop motion animation, but Dwarf Animation Studio is known for CG animation. It seems possible the series is CG created in a stop motion style. Unless there's some confirmation of how the animation was made, suggest changing to "stop motion-style" or something else appropriate. Holynightfever (talk) 09:46, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

These two sources [1][2] (One of which is the parent company) seem to confirm it's using actual stop motion animation, with the Variety source detailing it in further depth. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 22:10, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! The Variety article does seem to confirm. Holynightfever (talk) 11:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Pokémon Concierge/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 00:59, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Matthew Yeager (talk · contribs) 05:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

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Very fun read, it dragged me in! Some changes below are straightforward, but others might require some time to think about. The article is quite close to promotion as the structure, information, and references are great. Let me know what you think.

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

• Infobox writer and director names as Lastname Firstname instead of Firstname Lastname.

• I believe they're already in order? But I might be wrong on that. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

@Pokelego999: Whoops, I mean they are in Lastname now, instead of being Firstname Lastname. Do you see other templates formatting it like this article? Everything I found was First Last. Matthew Yeager (talk) 15:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

@Matthew Yeager ah gotcha. Changed the name order. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• Infobox Running time says 15-20 minutes while making of pokemon concierge says 14-20.

• Changed. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• Cast and characters - instead of Haru- Haru is a down on her luck you can Haru is a down on her luck, same for the rest.

• Changed. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• Production has a single sub-section Development. If there aren't any other sections then pick either name to be the heading and remove the other.

• Changed. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• Ep1. Watanabe congratulates her for the experience and encourages her to befriend a Pokémon and make it feel the same as her. The end of the sentence starts to lose context because we haven't mentioned how Haru feels -- relaxed? happy?

• Simplified. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• Ep2. Haru is confused on how to complete Watanabe's assignment. I know this is meant to reference Ep1 but perhaps the Ep1 synopsis should end with a more direct "W assigns H to help the pokemon feel as happy and relaxed as she has felt today".

• Per above. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• Ep3. Magikarp evolves into a Gyarados and swims away. what do you think about providing the context of the resultion Magikarp evolves into a Gyarados, who no longer needs help to swim.

• Merged both, which I feel clarifies that Gyarados has gone off on its own and also no longer needs the help. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• I see Rena Nōnen only referenced as Non [3][4][5]. Which name should be used in the article?

• Admittedly unsure if professional name or main name is preferred in cases like these. If you want it changed to Non I doubt it'll be too much of an issue. At worst we can just be like "Rena Nōnen, known professionally as Non..." or "Non, also known as Rena Nōnen". Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• Paste Magazine is available as a link.

• Changed. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

1. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

   Please take a closer look at copy editing from the first source. The third paragraph in "Production" is almost entirely sourced from reference 1, and may need a second read through to depart from the source. I'll give an example:

Reference: The stop-motion process was painstaking; each animator can make four to five seconds of footage per day, and there were about 86,000 images created for the four episodes.

Article: The series uses stop motion animation. Each individual animator was able to produce up to four to five seconds of footage for the series a day, with 86,000 unique images created for the whole series.

My suggestion: The series uses stop motion animation, resulting in over 80,000 unique frames for the four episodes. Individual animators were capable of making up to 5 seconds of footage each day, with episode run times lasting between 14 to 20 minutes.

• Adopted your suggestion for the article. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

1. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   Includes the development, synopsis, and reception of the series.

2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

3. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

4. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

5. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• @Matthew Yeager: addressed the above. Let me know how you feel on the Non naming issue. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.