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Request to prevent "Wikidata" titles from being created

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Per the discussion found at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 5#Sandra Lerner (Q7549), there seems to rough consensus to prevent "Wikidata-style" titles from being created, specifically in makeshift disambiguators in titles. I have an idea of how to accomplish that in this blacklist, but fear there may be a few false positives that appear every so often. Here is my idea:

• Prevent the creation of titles with any of the 4 following character strings:
• (Q[number]
• (q[number]
• (P[number]
• (p[number]

– Steel1943 (talk) 18:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

@Tavix, BDD, Reyk, Thryduulf, Cryptic, Deb, RebeccaGreen, Tagishsimon, Finnusertop, Gidonb, VQuakr, Zakhx150, Ritchie333, and Black Falcon: Ping participants/closed of aforementioned discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 18:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

@ComplexRational and Xezbeth: Ping more participants. Steel1943 (talk) 18:40, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Also, see Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Redirects with database (e.g. Wikidata) identifiers and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 1#Aisa Bint Ahmad (Q30904322). Steel1943 (talk) 18:37, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Sounds all right to me, but then I don't really understand why they were being created in the first place. Deb (talk) 18:46, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
    • @Deb: a bot was creating redlinks to missing articles based on Wikidata. If the title here was already in use (or ambiguous with other redlinks?) it added the Q number as a disambiguator to create a unique title. Thryduulf (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
      • So, user:ListeriaBot creates lists of redlinks, such as mine at User:Lee Vilenski/cue sports red lists. If an article already exists under that name, it uses the wikidata code to disambiguate. (See the entry for Billy Kelly for example). I would always create with a regular disambiguation, but a new user may just click the link to create. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:49, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support I think it's a good idea to prevent these somehow, but with the caveat that I don't know how such blacklists work. There was also an issue raised that some French submarines have a Q number as part of their designation; these should not be blacklisted. Those Q numbers are significantly shorter than the wikidata garbage though. Reyk _YO! 19:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose From the point of view of Women in Red, as I understand it, we want redlinks created, with Q numbers if another identical name with a different Q number already exists. A bot to delete redirects from that name plus Q number, once an article has been created, is what is needed from our point of view. RebeccaGreen (talk) 20:51, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  • @RebeccaGreen: I'm confused, and I'm not sure if you understand the point of the blacklist when you say "...we want redlinks created". The blacklist doesn't prevent redlinks from being created or typed out; it prevents content (such as an article or a redirect) being created at that title. Steel1943 (talk) 21:19, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Additionally, we can configure it here so that - even if ListeriaBot continues to create redlinks to these bad titles - when someone tries to create a page at that title, it'll show a message like "Please don't create your article at this title, give it a meaningful disambiguator like '(Nigerian politician)' instead of '(Q424242)'". —Cryptic 23:25, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Well, that might work. We certainly want the redlinks, and we want it to be as easy as possible for all editors, new and experienced, to create articles at those redlinks. RebeccaGreen (talk) 01:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

• Comment I'm a bit concerned about the potential for false positives. I'd suggest maybe considering an edit filter at first - first to gauge the extent of the problem, and secondly to add a warning. If this must be implemented in the blacklist, I'd suggest the number is at least n digits long, as is likely for most red-linked Wikidata items, and as specific as possible to the problem. So that would be something like \s\([PQ]\d{4,}\)$ I don't see any current data for P-numbered items in relation to either bad titles or existing articles (false positives), and I don't see any bad titles with lower case identifiers - maybe someone could shed light on that. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 21:53, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  • There's plenty of current false positives for (Q###) - all the French subs at quarry:query/39909, plus a handful more if we don't enforce the closing ). Current query that includes property numbers, lowercase q/p, and possibly-missing close paren is at quarry:query/40085. There's a lot in the latter - plenty of British ships, at a glance. I don't have time right now for a thorough analysis, but it looks like setting a minimum of five digits will cull most or all of the false positives (it does for uppercase-Q), and a minimum of six digits should suffice for almost all of the bad titles we've seen in the wild. —Cryptic 23:25, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
    There's exactly four pages left matching \([qQpP][0-9]{5,}: User:Javert2113/Mollie King (Q16930213), User:Loulabelle/Margaret Verrall (Q18576692), User:SusunW/Anna Maria Niemeyer (Q9616311), and User:Teblick/Lola Lane (Q1646159). None are false positives, though I expect we'd want to allow creations in at least User, File:, and their talk namespaces anyway. —Cryptic 23:56, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
• @Steel1943: can we include the parenthesis in the query? Seems like that would cut down on false positives. Also, why can't we just block the bot? VQuakr (talk) 23:33, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  • @VQuakr: Yes, the left paren would/should be part of it, and please see elsewhere in this discussion regarding false positives, specifically about how many numbers minimum should be in the string to avoid false positives. And in regards to the bot, that may be more of a question for whether maintains the bot or approved the bot (I'm not even sure what this bot is); the editor in this discussion, RebeccaGreen, may at least know the name of the bot. Steel1943 (talk) 15:51, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
    • It's User:ListeriaBot (example page). What we (well, I, anyway) don't know is whether the redlinks with Q numbers are generated by the specific queries on the WIR pages, by ListeriaBot, or by Wikidata. Only the first of these is likely to be easily fixable, and even then we'd at best be able to get something like Maria Gianni (DISAMBIGUATION NEEDED) instead of Maria Gianni (Q27180796). —Cryptic 21:43, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@Cryptic: this bot is creating redlinks in talk page lists, not actual articles/redirects, correct? Is the actual creation of the articles/redirects with bad titles being done by a human? If so, blacklisting seems like a blunt tool to fix a behavioral problem. VQuakr (talk) 01:05, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, by many different humans. Some of them too inexperienced to know better; some of them very experienced, who don't notice that they're doing it (because the redlinks are piped to hide the disambiguators, like Maria Gianni). Fixing the humans' behavior isn't really practical. Fixing the bot's behavior would be ideal, but maybe not practical either. The blacklist is a much better fit, for many reasons, than a new speedy deletion criterion; my interest with this issue ends at preventing the creation of the latter. —Cryptic 01:31, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

It seems to me we can program a bot to avoid any string that we can blacklist? VQuakr (talk) 06:18, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

• Support – it's a good idea, seeing as there is consensus to delete these redirects but no consensus to create a new CSD. However, as zzuuzz and Cryptic mention, there needs to be a way to ensure that the blacklist query does not catch false positives. I'm pretty sure that (Q[number] (with at least 5 or 6 digits) will not catch any false positives (as one of the titles at the RfD was Q7549). If necessary, I'd support the creation of an edit filter for probable cases (i.e. when a Wikidata ID shorter than 5 digits could plausibly mean something else) and adding cases that are almost indubitably IDs to the blacklist. Also, is it necessary to include lowercase (will not be created by bots) or P numbers (which are at most 4 digits), which are both less likely creations and offer more false positives? ComplexRational (talk) 23:39, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  • I certainly don't see any need to include anything other than capital Q numbers in this filter, there is no evidence of any problematic titles in other ranges. Thryduulf (talk) 13:11, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
• Support Obvious support. scope_creep^Talk 02:15, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
• Comment. Separately from the ListeriaBot issue, there are over 100 articles whose titles begin with "Q1" (many of them New York City bus lines) and probably many others with Q and other digits, or where the Q and digits are not at the start of the title. Do we really want to blacklist all of these, merely to get around a problem that is easily handled by a combination of user education and page moves when a problematic title is created? —David Eppstein (talk) 05:05, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
  • @David Eppstein: Note the left paren "(" at the beginning of the proposed string. This blacklist entry wouldn't be for "Q#" but rather "(Q#" (with # representing a number.) Steel1943 (talk) 05:41, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
    • @Steel1943: I can't figure out how to persuade the advanced search feature to search for page titles containing "(P" or "(Q" with the open paren. However, I see no evidence above that anyone else has figured it out either, nor that they have made any efforts to determine how many articles would be affected by such a filter. I would like to see such efforts made, rather than just assuming it can't happen and finding out later. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:47, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
      • There are two database queries above (Q, PQ), along with some analysis, which show existing articles. I have also made a proposal above (as modified) looking a bit different to that originally made by Steel1943, which is any title which ends with: a space character, followed by opening parenthesis, then a capital Q, then five or more numbers, and ending with a closing parenthesis. This can be summarised as \s\(Q\d{5,}\)$ <casesensitive>, plus the code required to restrict only in the main namespace (or wherever else), plus a custom warning. I would indeed prefer the bot/linking issue to be tackled, but in terms of false positives this version doesn't seem too bad. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 08:33, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
• oppose 1) for reasons of false positives 2) because the "problem" is trivial enough both in the quantity of instances, and the nature of the cure, to be dealt with as it arises 3) because it erects yet another confusing barrier for exactly the sort of newbies who are lulled by WiR's Listeria redlists into creating articles with such titles. Blythe assurances that we can supply some sort of interstitial encouraging the user to concoct a more appropriate disambiguator which will be understood by the newbie amidst the world-salad of new terms and concepts necessary to navigate a wikipedia edit for the first time is wishful thinking, or at least, is not concerned about those newbies who will give up at that hurdle. It's also, may I say, a fairly obnoxious direction to suggest for Wikipedia, which is built on being permissive rather that tightly constrained by half-baked logic that prevent users from doing things the rule framers had never considered; a "let's prevent users from doing this" ethos is straightforwardly antithetical to the wikipedia I understand. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:46, 16 November 2019 (UTC) --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:46, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per Tagishimon. I hadn't considered it from that perspective before, but it is absolutely correct that the way to fix this is not by erecting barriers to new contributors. Thryduulf (talk) 12:07, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
• Edit filter: I've set up edit filter 1012 (hist · log). It does nothing but log page creations with these (Qxxx) titles. In the future it could tag entries (or even display a custom message) if that's useful. If you have any suggestions for the filter you could drop me a direct ping. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 14:42, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose blacklist, support edit filter to log or tag these. I agree with Tagishsimon's point about not putting up more barriers to entry, but I think that having an edit filter that finds these so they can be handled appropriately by more experienced editors looks like a useful thing to do. Additionally, the false positive issue is much less of a concern when doing things this way. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:11, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
• Comment. I have struck my non-Q options per the above. Steel1943 (talk) 01:05, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
• Could we just fix the bot? It feels strange that this can be opposed on the basis that a bot is creating links we don't want. --BDD (talk) 14:53, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
• comment if these are all triggered by User:ListeriaBot, then that bot task should be modified to not use the QID as a diambiguator, instead how about no red link at all if it cannot come up with a sensible name. Since the QID is already in the table produced, it is not helpful to editors. Since this is not really a huge problem, an edit filter warning and logging should be sufficient. Then others can sort out the mess. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:43, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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BLOODMONEY

There's a song Wikipedia calls "Bloodmoney", but the rest of the world spells "BLOODMONEY". It shouldn't be an article, but it is. The third problem is the insanity in the track listing notes at I Disagree. At least two editors want to say it's stylized in all caps, despite that being clearly false to someone reading Wikipedia. Rather than pipe it the normal way (which was undone) or specify Sumerian Records does it that way (also undone), I figured I'd move it to the correct title. But it was blacklisted. Searched the archives, found nothing. Help? InedibleHulk (talk) 20:23, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

There's a rule that prevents moves to titles with more than 9 consecutive capital letters. I'd say any move to a fully capitalized title because the rest of the world uses that is going to be controversial (following other sources on capitalization vs following standard capitalization conventions in titles is controversial), so I'd use WP:RM for those moves. Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:36, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Even if this wasn't ten letters, I'd be bewildered at choosing nine for a cutoff point. Just seems off. But thanks for explaining. I'll see what I can do about moving it through consensus (or perhaps more easily, deleting it). There's no rule against ten consecutive plaintext caps, is there? InedibleHulk (talk) 20:52, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Should this have been blacklisted?

Just had the case of Nina Коvacheva at the help desk - note the cyrillic К and о. When I attempted to move the page to change the K, not noticing the O at the time, I was prevented by the blacklist until both were changed.

However, should it not have prevented the creation of the page in the first place?

~~ Alex Noble - talk 09:57, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Now RfD'd, so it's moot. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

List of NSWRL/ARL/SL/NRL premiership captains and coaches

I was going to move this page (Draft:List of NSWRL/ARL/SL/NRL premiership captains and coaches) into the mainspace, however it said the name was titleblacklisted. Why is that? WDM10 (talk) 06:30, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@WDM10: I'm not sure what was doing it, but not worth the dumpster dive. I moved it. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 00:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! WDM10 (talk) 00:14, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 30 March 2020: Remove an extra square bracket

On the "on wheels" blacklist item, there is one extra opening square bracket before the S regex section that remains unclosed. My request is to remove that extra square bracket. Sschr16 (talk) 19:07, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:00, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

PUSSNBOOTS: Pero's Great Adventure

Why has this been blacklisted? It is the on-screen and on-box title of a game with an article as Puss 'n Boots: Pero's Great Adventure. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 13:02, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 15 July 2020

Please add categories containing "Moowoo" to the blacklist. Category:Moowoo1 - Category:Moowoo28 were created and recreated in the last days of socks, partly 5 times. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 18:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: now its Category:Moowoo - Category:Moowoo40 .. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 06:07, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

That's looks like swapped about Woomoo to Moowoo by LTA for bypass blacklist. That's more then 40 created times well as ordering numbers. ~ Junior5a (Talk) Cont 20:11, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done I tried to make it pretty wide to stop the LTA getting around the blacklist, but if it's too wide we can restrict it further. — Wug·a·po·des​ 23:19, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 13 May 2020

Can you also add the following regex to MediaWiki:Titleblacklist:

• .*ninger.* # it’s equivalent to the word nigger
• .*COQ.* <casesensitive> # it’s equivalent to the word cock
• .*BICHE.* <casesensitive> # it’s equivalent to the word bitch

Thanks. Sincerely, Denimalt (talk) I was editing as Denimalt. 16:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done this list is mostly reactive, please provide some diffs of where this problem is occurring and would need to be stopped again in the future. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:20, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Whether I like it or not, Wikipedia is not censored, and if a reliable news source quotes someone's notable use of these misspelled vulgar words, redirects or articles might have to be created as needed eventually, Denimalt. Félix An (talk) 22:07, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 August 2020

Something which catches all variants of "LilZavier" and "Lil Zavier" with characters either before or after needs to be added, due to User talk:LilZavier and User talk:LilZavier1's continued vanity page creations. Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 21:41, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@Nathan2055: Is it just those two accounts and not a massive sockfarm? If so, wouldn't just blocking them make more sense? Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:06, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

As above. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:46, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Non-printing characters

At RfD, we came across a redirect containing a word joiner (U+2060). The redirect is Fernando Zor⁠⁠⁠⁠ ending with four copies of the word joiner. I think non-printing characters should be blacklisted, but we will need do compose a list of them first, and perhaps a custom message is warranted. I have also proposed a global blacklist request covering non-printing characters in usernames. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:11, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Potentially deceptive characters in usernames

Note the unusual characters in this username: 𝗺𝘆 𝗺𝗼𝗺 𝗶𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗱 𝗼𝗳 𝗺𝗲. This appears to be an abuse of the charcters from the Unicode block Mathematical Alphanumeric Symbols to make a name that is hard to distinguish from the similar-looking Latin alphabet text, and impossible to search for using standard tools. Another example of similar manipulation is 𝕷𝖔𝖗𝖉 𝕺𝖋 𝖘𝖍𝖆𝖉𝖔𝖜𝖘 𝖝𝖊𝖓. I've added some patterns at User:AmandaNP/UAA/Blacklist to try to catch any repetition of this or similar ruses, but I'm surprised this wasn't caught at source by MediaWiki:Titleblacklist or similar mechanisms. Does anyone know how this might have been achieved, and how we could stop it from happening again? -- The Anome (talk) 12:30, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@The Anome: The characters need to be blacklisted at m:Titleblacklist for usernames. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

To elaborate on why that is: Since SUL finalization happened a few years ago, usernames are now global across all wikis, so only the global title blacklist applies to new user accounts. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

 Deferred to the global blacklist. Actually, the request covers several groups of letter lookalikes and other funny characters. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:16, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 8 September 2020

Please add the entries File:Annotation [0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]\-[0-9][0-9]\-[0-9][0-9].* <reupload | errmsg=titleblacklist-custom-imagename> and File:Screenshot (\([0-9]{1,}\)).* <reupload | errmsg=titleblacklist-custom-imagename> as these are generic file names generated by Windows Snip & Sketch and by pressing Windows+PrtScn Aasim 01:58, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm only seeing a handful of images matching these titles - File:Annotation 2019-09-17_230027.png, File:Annotation_2019-09-17 233103.png, File:Screenshot (9).png, File:Screenshot (15).png, File:Screenshot (33).png, File:Screenshot (35).png, File:Screenshot (65).png, File:Screenshot (166).png, File:Screenshot (324).png. —Cryptic 09:05, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Request disabled. No response from OP — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:05, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Picture

So, I was trying to upload a picture for 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole. They said I could not upload due to ALLCAPS. Please help.Acidic Carbon (Corrode) 05:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@Acid Of Carbon: What file name did you try to use? Can you copy and paste the exact error you got? Jackmcbarn (talk) 06:17, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Jackmcbarn 8F3D7B7C-2147-435A-B9F0-62BECEFB4C93.gif is the file name. It says this is blacklisted. ALLCAPS is responsible.Acidic Carbon (Corrode) 13:05, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@Acid Of Carbon: That seems like the titleblacklist correctly stopped you from using a particularly poor choice of filename. Why not upload the file as File:1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole.gif instead? Jackmcbarn (talk) 14:42, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 May 2021 (2)

Red cross. Post black swans two birds at swim.

Music Vedio Entertainments

In my mind . I want to create my Facebook page and Digital YouTube channel . So that is 𝒁𝒂𝒖 𝑴𝒐𝒐𝒏 (talk) 11:51, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@𝒁𝒂𝒖 𝑴𝒐𝒐𝒏: Because of your choice of username, you won't be able to create a user page, user sandbox, or any userspace drafts yourself. You can fix that by following the instructions at WP:CHU to change to a normal username that will allow these activities. "Zau Moon" is available, so you could change to it. If you insist on keeping your current username, then you'll need to either create your drafts in the Draft namespace instead of your userspace, or request that an admin or other privileged user create each page that you want to edit. But also note that Wikipedia is not for writing about yourself, and your Facebook page and YouTube channel are probably not notable enough for an article here. Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:26, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Edit request

Can you please add spambot/spam bot to the user creation blacklist as someone is making accounts with the words Antiantispambot like [1] which appears to imply that they won't contribute positively to the Encyclopaedia? Thanks. Train of Knowledge (Talk) 22:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Usernames can only be blacklisted at m:Title blacklist. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:37, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Please Blacklist Harsh Beniwal

Please blacklist Harsh Beniwal. There have already been three AFDs:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harsh Beniwal (2nd nomination)
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harsh Beniwal
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harsh Beniwal (YouTuber)

The title has been salted, but, as can be seen, the submitter is gaming the names of titles by adding an unnecessary disambiguator. It has also been salted in draft space. Title blacklisting is the reasonable next step against an unreasonable editor. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:08, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please feel free to re-request if disruption has continued since 3 months ago... Izno (talk) 19:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 27 December 2020

Please block any title containing /El Polimata/i, or at least beginning with it, /^El Polimata/i. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Elmenormcrd. Block-evading sockpuppets of this self-promoter keep appearing and creating new copies of the page that was deleted as a result of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/El Polimata, with a different disambiguator each time because the original has been salted. The latest was El Polimata (singer). Largoplazo (talk) 18:27, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

In Draft space too, please. The same user (with even more aliases today) has been putting up variations on the title in Draft space, such as Draft:El Polimata "Cantante" just a few hours ago. Largoplazo (talk) 04:09, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please let an administrator know if disruption continues. Izno (talk) 06:33, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Request to un-blacklist .*im.*eiss.*

I was confronted with a blacklist when trying to create an article on Asher Simcha Weissmann. It seems that page names of the form .*im.*eiss.* were blacklisted a few years ago in the sockpuppet investigation against Chinanike101. –Kyuko (talk) 13:46, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 20 March 2021

Add <errmsg=titleblacklist-custom-URL> in this line:

.*(?:http|https|ftp|mailto|torrent|ed2k)\:\/\/[\w:@\-]+\.[\w\-]+.*

JsfasdF252 (talk) 23:00, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

• Ping to @Anthony Appleyard: who was working on this. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:24, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 14:17, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Please Blacklist Werley Nortreus

Please see histories of Werley Nortreus and Draft:Werley Nortreus and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Werley Nortreus.

See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Werley Nortreus (Musical Artist), which was a clear case of gaming the naming of articles. Gaming the system is why we have a title blacklist. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:29, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

See also Draft:Werley Nortreus (Haitian Intellectual) (or an admin can see it with special glasses). Robert McClenon (talk) 02:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Done. —Cryptic 02:36, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Username blacklist proposal

Recently, there has been an uptick in vandal accounts entitled “I can make my testicles go up and down”. Some of these accounts are probably sockpuppets of the same person, but others don’t appear to be. I propose that we blacklist the phrases “testicles go up and down” as well as “balls go up and down” to curb this problem. It is really tiresome for users like me to have to revert their edits and then report the username. If we blacklisted those phrases, the bot would report it to UAA and save us plenty of time. Thanks, 🐍 Helen 🐍 16:37, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, as well as “testis go up and down” and “testes go up and down”. I just found account with that name. 🐍 Helen 🐍 16:48, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

As well as any possible combination of going up and down. Some users keep trying to skirt it by putting a word between “testes” and “up and down”. Sorry I keep making comments, but I just found another two accounts. 🐍 Helen 🐍 16:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

We can't do it here anymore. You want m:Title blacklist. —Cryptic 17:07, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Remove "CarryMinati"

It is useless to blacklist "CarryMinati", especially considering that CarryMinati exists. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 10:29, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 May 2021

Please add subst: to the blacklist, as pages containing it have been used for promotion. See {{Subst:AfC submission/draftnew}}, which fakes the commonly used and always-substituted {{AfC submission/draftnew}}. I have tagged the page for G11. dudhhr 01:46, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done this doesn't seem to be a widespread problem, except on that one page - which has now been create-protected. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:50, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 26 May 2021

Remove Template:Editnotices\/.* <noedit|errmsg=titleblacklist-custom-editnotice> and replace it with the version in sandbox to allow users to edit the documentation, testcases, and sandboxes of editnotices. 54nd60x (talk) 13:45, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Those don't exist for editnotices and would be editnotices for other pages. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:19, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@JJMC89: Apparently documentations and sandboxes have been created form some editnotices, so it looks like something needs to be done. Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Category shows that there is a sandbox and a documentation, so can someone help with the deletion of those pages? The documentation, testcases, and sandboxes of edns to exist on zhwp though, that's where I got the idea from. 54nd60x (talk) 09:51, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 29 May 2021

Please remove "CarryMinati" from the blacklist. All it does now is create problems with editors trying to create pages related to CarryMinati. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 10:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done that page is already created. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:46, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 16 June 2021

Please add Book:.* <errmsg=Titleblacklist-forbidden-book> and Book talk:.* <errmsg=Titleblacklist-forbidden-book> to the title blacklist per https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Remove_the_option_to_save_in_the_book_namespace_from_the_book_creator. Also create a custom error message that says "The Book: namespace has been deprecated. To have your book moved to userspace, please contact an administrator." (possibly at MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-forbidden-book) Aasim (talk) 08:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim: why does this need a leading wildcard? — xaosflux ^Talk 17:40, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux my error. I meant just the end. Aasim (talk) 17:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Note, should prob link to Wikipedia:Books. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux Sure. Why not? Aasim (talk) 18:52, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

You probably also want to add Book talk:.* <noedit> as well to the title blacklist for the same reason. Aasim (talk) 18:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

I updated my edit request as it seems as if there is no consensus to stop editing of the book namespace, just saving new books. Aasim (talk) 00:12, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Suggested Message

@Awesome Aasim: MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-forbidden-book has been initted as above, but probably needs another link - maybe to WP:AN? (We shouldn't assume someone knows how to contact an admin). — xaosflux ^Talk 18:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. Maybe add "via the administrator noticeboard" to the message with a link to it. Aasim (talk) 18:59, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux (ping) Aasim (talk) 19:05, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

 Doing... — xaosflux ^Talk 14:50, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 14:58, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 17 August 2021

Near the bottom of the page, there is this code:

# Creation of Articles for creation submissions in the wrong place
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation\/.* <errmsg=titleblacklist-AfC-wrong-place>

MW does not follow redirects, so when you edit create a page such as this page, you are presented with a redirect page, not the editnotice. Change that to:

# Creation of Articles for creation submissions in the wrong place
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation\/.* <errmsg=titleblacklist-custom-AfC-wrong-place>

— CVValue (talk) 21:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:00, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Polimata

I propose adding the following to the title blacklist for English Wikipedia:

   /el pol[ií]mata/i

This is pursuant to creation and deletion of many main space and draft space articles under numerous titles created by a succession of sockpuppet accounts intent on keeping alive an article on a Dominican rapper who goes by this name who has yet to be judged notable. (See the deletion discussion at en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/El Polimata.) Sometimes several of these articles exist simultaneously, and disambiguating titles are used to get around titles that are already salted. The case history is at en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/El Menor Mc. Largoplazo (talk) 16:42, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Done, slightly wider than proposed to match the attempt at Polimata (singer). —Cryptic 23:31, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

List of Compatible Mixed Scripts

1. Latin, Cyrillic, Arabic
all these scripts are variants for Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Turkmen, Uzbek, etc.
2. Devanagari, Arabic
both these scripts are variants of Kashmiri
3. Hiragana, Katakana, CJK Unified Ideographs
are all combined in Japanese.
4. CJK Unified Ideographs, Hangul
both these scripts are variants of Korean.

Faster than Thunder (talk) 01:18, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Inserting image problem

Hi and hello, im new here in wiki and im inserting a picture File: Drawing.png but theres a backlist problem. How to fix it? Its for my user page.--Lil Moon Teddy (talk) 10:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Lil Moon Teddy (talk) 05:36, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Lil Moon Teddy: Try giving the image a longer and more descriptive name: something like "Drawing of ... by ... .png" is unlikely to hit the title blacklist. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Lil Moon Teddy (talk) 12:11, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Hello there. I'm fairly new to wikipedia editing and have been trying to make my user page, until I encountered a title blacklist problem. I've been trying to insert an image, with, of course, the template page thing to upload. Here is the information I had put in: Name: A white male posing in his room in the dark - July 4th 2021.jpg Whilst here is the name in my computer files: antoineledieu.jpg

Now what I'd like to know is the problem here, why can't I use this? Any help is appreciated

--RealDarkFunny (talk) 21:56, 28 September 2021 (UTC)RealDarkFunny

Please see commons:User talk:RealDarkFunny#Uploading images for response(s). — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (talk) 04:14, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Ali Mansour

Please blacklist *Ali*Mansour*. See recent history at Ali Mansour (actor) and Draft:Ali Mansour (actor). The socks will probably try to game the naming by changing his disambiguator. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:15, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

I see that Ali Mansour is a locked redirect to Ali Mansur, a prime minister. The blacklisting will not affect him. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:18, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

I already did yesterday after I saw Explicit salt the most recent honeytrap. Just /.*ali.*mansour.*/, or even /.*\bali\b.*\bmansour\b.*/, matched an uncomfortable number of false positives in mainspace, like Rajab Ali Mansour, Hasan-ali Mansour, and Ali Mansour Alwan (nn, but unrelated to this person). —Cryptic 23:52, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

I ma trying to upload ka pic with a good name but it's not getting upload DanishKhan22 (talk) 12:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

/meta/shortname etc templates

Following a TfD in September, it was decided to merge /meta/shortname, meta/color, meta/abbrev and meta/abbr templates (e.g. {{Labour Party (UK)/meta/color}}, {{Democratic Party (United States)/meta/shortname}}) into a module (which has been created at Module:Political party). This is now live and we want to stop people creating new meta templates, as they will not be used. Can new creations of templates including the above names be blocked by adding them to the blacklist? Cheers, Number 57 21:16, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Number 57: I've made a mockup of the message that should be shown when someone attempts to create one of these pages at Template:Titleblacklist-political-party-templates, this can be moved to the Mediawiki namespace. Then the following lines

# Political party templates, deprecated since September 2021
Template:.*\/meta\/(shortname|color|abbrev|abbr) <noedit|errmsg=titleblacklist-political-party-templates>

could be added to prevent these templates from being edited or created by non-template editors/admins (I think restricting editing of these templates also make sense as to avoid confusion since an edit here would not have the effect they're intending). You could implement these changes now but it might be prudent to wait for a regular at this talkpage to do it in case there's anything I missed here. Given that, I've opened an edit request to draw attention to it. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:39, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

• How many of these have been erroneously created since the module change? Also, if these shouldn't be used - why are templates such as Template:Labour Party (UK)/meta/color still around? — xaosflux ^Talk 14:23, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Ten were created in the last two days according to this.
  • The module that is replacing them has only just gone live; while most templates/infoboxes/modules that use the meta templates have been converted to use the new module instead, the templates are still used in some wikitables to create background colours for cells, and there needs to be a bot run to replace them all before they can be deleted. Cheers, Number 57 14:55, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
    • @Number 57: what is the editing workflow that is driving people to create those today? (e.g. following a red link, using a preload, just habit). — xaosflux ^Talk 15:00, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
      • They are created mainly to display party names/colours in infoboxes and tables, so will be created when a new infobox/table is created and a party included in the table does not already have meta templates or when a new party is created and has to be added to existing infoboxes/tables. Since the TfD, several hundred new meta templates have been created, so there is a very regular stream of them. Number 57 15:05, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
        • @Number 57: I wasn't really asking what they are for, but asking what is it that is causing editors to create these today - if that process is updated they should stop getting created - correct? If that process isn't updated, it needs to be - crashing editors in to a blacklist error message isn't ideal UX. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:11, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
          • I'm guessing it's habit – this is the way it's always been done. The problem is that while most are created by a core group of editors who can be informed by leaving messages on their talk pages (which I did for the few created in the last couple of days), there is a large number of different editors who create them occasionally, with no real way of attracting their attention to this. If you create a meta template to use in a wikitable, it will still work (as it isn't dependent on a module/template that has been converted to not use them anymore), so editors who use them for that purpose will be able to continue doing so. Number 57 15:14, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
• Any more thoughts on this? The meta templates are still being created... Number 57 23:08, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
• @DukeOfDelTaco: , you created Template:Republican Party (Louisiana)/meta/color - can you explain what workflow led you to create what seems to now be a useless page? Was it habit, or something that led you to it? — xaosflux ^Talk 15:57, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Apologies, I wasn't aware of the change and I created the new meta page out of habit. I guess I should've known when I noticed the shortname template page was suddenly empty, but I didn't really know where to check. — DukeOfDelTaco (talk) 01:12, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
    • No worries, thank you for the feedback! — xaosflux ^Talk 03:39, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
•  Done — xaosflux ^Talk 03:39, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Register an account

Account login 103.217.158.201 (talk) 03:40, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

See Special:CreateAccount - FlightTime (open channel) 04:07, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 12 January 2022

Add 'Renxe' to the title blacklist. Renxe has already been create-protected, and an editor is gaming the protection with disambiguation, at Renxe (writer). Robert McClenon (talk) 23:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC) Robert McClenon (talk) 23:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done @Robert McClenon: I think this went stale, and isn't actually a problem anymore? — xaosflux ^Talk 01:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Okay. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 20 January 2022

The entry .*JEWS DID .* <casesensitive> is redundant to the case-insensitive entry .*JEWS DID.* #VasilievVV 2008-05-01 on the global blacklist and can be safely removed. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:23, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done not hurting anything, and we shouldn't have to rely on another project's blacklist. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 8 February 2022

Please add WikiProject:.*. As noted at WP:SHORTCUT, there is consensus against this as a pseudonamespace, but people still occasionally try to create pages in it, perhaps because some other wikis do have== MLBP ==

It seems that the entry .*MLBP.* #Blatant hoax was added in 2012 for sockpuppets of Wetsoap (talk · contribs), which has not seen an SPI since, so the entry can be removed. I seek to create a disambiguation page at MLBP between Mitch Laddie's record label and a topic mentioned at Local binary patterns. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:16, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

It looks like a similar concern was raised two years ago at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive316#Creating_MLBPitchingCoaches_Template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:39, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done Jake Wartenberg (talk) 14:54, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Rayhan Ahmed spam

Requesting title blacklist for Rayhan Ahmad, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rayhanahmed21. Persistent recreation of salted article. Deppty (talk) 13:19, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

If it's all in draftspace, what's the point in blacklisting (or even salting)? It will just make him harder to catch. IMO we should go the opposite direction and unsalt Draft:Rayhan ahmed. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 13:27, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

What Tamzin said. Salting/blacklisting is rarely a good idea for non-notable biographies when socking is involved - all it does is result in the article ending up at ever more obscure titles, making more work for those cleaning up.  Not done. firefly ( t · c ) 15:13, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

such (pseudo)namespaces. There may be rare cases where it would be acceptable to create such a title as a redirect to an article or section on a WikiProject—Special:PrefixIndex/WikiProject shows a few such titles without colon, which is why I'm not requesting the blacklist extend to that pattern—but those can be handled on a case-by-case basis by sysops/TPEs/PMRs; I doubt it will come up at all, given that it never has before. Past RfDs: 8 titles (main precedent for with-colon and without-colon), WikiProject:Trade, 11 titles, WikiProject:Wikipedia, WikiProject:Indiana, WikiProject: Environment/Climate change task force, WikiProject:Micronations (most recent precedent).  -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 10:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 00:57, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 30 May 2022

Should we just remove the entry .*giiant.*, since nobody remembers what it was for? For reference, the discussion previously linked is now archived at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive339#I_can’t_create_my_user_page. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:49, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Also, I think we can sefely remove the entry .*Mega [Mm]om.*. This entry was linked to Wetsoap (talk · contribs), who has not had an SPI report since 2012. I'm not sure if the redirects Mega Mom → Codename:Kids Next Door#Villains and The Adventures of Captain Fantastic & Mega Mom → Christopher Showerman#Filmography should be created. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:59, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

@LaundryPizza03, I've created the latter page. ― Qwerfjkltalk 07:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done - the giiant one is related to "giant %bodypart%" type vandalism, so left it. I created the redirects and SPP'd them for the mega moms. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:43, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Giiant?

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#I can’t create my user page. Any insight on why this is blacklisted and/or getting around it for their user and talk pages? Thanks. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:06, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

It was added by NawlinWiki over thirteen years ago. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:46, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Articles about Griffpatch on Scratch qualify for deletion always

Pages about him had to be deleted three times.

(.*:|)griffpatch <noedit> #Griffpatch is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Faster than Thunder (talk) 03:18, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Draft created despite blacklisting?

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T85393

See MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist/Archive 6#Polimata above. I'd have thought the regex /.*pol[ií]mata.*/ would have prevented creation of en:Draft:El Polímata, but it didn't. If drafts aren't excluded by default, this is a situation where sockpuppets have been creating numerous articles and drafts about this performer, sometimes more than one at a time. (See en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/El Menor Mc.) Perhaps two dozen or more have been deleted by now. Largoplazo (talk) 15:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Sockpuppets didn't create that title; Robert McClenon did. —Cryptic 16:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

The sockpuppet created the article. But that's material only to why this pattern is on the blacklist. Regardless of who moved it, does the blacklist not prevent pages from being moved to a title? Should it? Largoplazo (talk) 16:27, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• @Largoplazo: that page was created by Toleterd at User:Toleterd/sandbox (c.f. creation log), which would not have been impacted by the titleblacklist. User:Robert McClenon is a member of the Wikipedia:Page mover access group, which includes the (tboverride) permission. Users with that permission may create titles on the blacklist. phab:T192767 is open about how they don't get warned that the destination title is on the title blacklist during move operations. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:44, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for the explanation. And I appreciate your adding the update to the Phabricator ticket, which I endorse. Largoplazo (talk) 17:25, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I would have Rejected the sandbox draft if I had known that the title was blacklisted. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:43, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon I don't think anyone is faulting you here - we need to make the interface better, but it requires a software change upstream. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:28, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Definitely not faulting you, but the contrary: following the discussion above, I assumed that you would have reacted just so if you'd received such a warning. Largoplazo (talk) 19:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• I've opened a specific feature request, phab:T302630 to request an improvement to this workflow. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:47, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
  • I knew I'd seen those before, thanks Cryptic, I've updated and merged all of those. If I would have remembered I'd have pushed for it on the wishlist. Listed at meta:Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles to try to remember next time :( — xaosflux ^Talk 11:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Collateral request: Can we add /.*omar\s*brito.*/ to the blacklist? This is the artist's real name, and, generally with disambiguators, it is part of the title of some of the numerous articles and drafts that the socks have created about this person. For example, the latest sock, in addition to the draft discussed above, concurrently created Draft:Omar Brito and Draft:Omar Brito De Jesús (singer). Largoplazo (talk) 12:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Ban foreign characters in titles in draftspace

Looks like foreign characters are banned from titles in mainspace, userspace, and filespace, but not draftspace. I suggest changing all instances of (User|Wikipedia|File) to (User|Wikipedia|File|Draft). It would prevent draft writers from creating pages such as Draft:4 Season Project 季, then confusing our AFC reviewers who try to accept it and get a titleblacklist error message. Example. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:00, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

It may look like it to you, but it sure doesn't to me. None of, for example, 4 Season Project 季, User:4 Season Project 季, or File:4 Season Project 季 are blacklisted, nor should they be. Which regex are you looking at? —Cryptic 03:39, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately the regex is cut off in the message. It only says (?!(User. Screenshot. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:47, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

By the way what method are you using to test if a title matches the title blacklist? I'd like to test some titles but don't want to pollute mainspace. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:18, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Re-reading the regex's I requested be replaced, (?!(User|Wikipedia|File)( talk)?:|Talk:) is a negative lookahead, rather than a positive, so my initial edit request was probably flawed. Better disregard. Would still like to troubleshoot the Draft:4 Season Project 季 can't move to mainspace issue though if anybody sees what's going on with that. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:23, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

If you try to create a blacklisted title, you get a warning saying so on the edit-page screen (MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-forbidden-edit). Example. If you're an admin (or, presumeably, a pagemover or templateeditor), you instead get told which regex it matches (Mediawiki:Titleblacklist-warning). No need to save.

Looks like it's matching (?!(User|Wikipedia)( talk)?:|Talk:)\P{L}*\p{Latin}.*[^\p{Latin}\P{L}ʻ].* <moveonly> # Latin + non-Latin in the "# DISALLOW PAGE MOVES TO MIXED-SCRIPT TITLES [...]# Intentionally move-only due to false positives" section. I'd call this a false positive, ayup. Want me to move it for you? (And shouldn't it be to Love Story (4 Season Project 季) or Love Story (Kyuhyun album) instead?) —Cryptic 04:37, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Good call on the title. I've renamed it to Draft:Love Story (Kyuhyun album). Now that the hanja character is gone, I suppose we can just let the AFC reviewer approve it. Thanks for your help my friend. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:56, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 15 June 2022

The entry .*Maisani.* appears to involve the LTA Brucejenner (talk · contribs), whose last confirmed SPI was in 2013, and can probably be removed if there is anyone notable with this name. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:44, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

• Added in 2012 by NawlinWiki. NawlinWiki - still needed? — xaosflux ^Talk 14:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

  Precisely — Benjamin Maisani could be created as a redirect to Anderson_Cooper#Personal_life, which includes nontrivial information related to this person. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:27, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done @LaundryPizza03: it is removed. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:08, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 11 July 2022

Please add "shit" to the list of usernames blacklisted from creation (i.e put */bshit/* or something). 58.179.95.13 (talk) 01:07, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done New usernames are handled at m:Title blacklist. I'd point out there are some names containing "\bshit", such as Shithi Saha and Shitij Kapur. These names are generally automatically reported to WP:UAA where they can be dealt with appropriately. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 01:54, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 10 July 2022

Remove *HoIocaust.* #Trying to outsmart our automated detection using an uppercase I in stead of a lowercase l in the word "Holocaust" in the blacklist because it should be a redirect to the title Holocaust instead of blacklisting them. Any history why they added it to the blacklist? Trolls? Sockpuppetry regarding the title? Winload.EXE (talk) 11:40, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: I suggest that any variation of 'HoIocaust' is not a reasonable redirect, search term, or title. It has been used abusively, for example by Special:DeletedContributions/186.216.81.21. It is reasonable to assume the same LTA is still active. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 02:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Winload.EXE, added here ― Qwerfjkltalk 06:56, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

If a redirect were appropriate (and I don't think it is, I can't imagine declining a {{db-r3}} on anything of the form SomethingIsomething→Somethinglsomething) then the way to get it is not to unblacklist this - that's not happening - but to get an administrator/templateeditor/pagemover to create it for you. Ask at WP:AFC/R if you still think it's a good idea and that you can convince somebody to do so. —Cryptic 07:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Cryptic, as an AFCRC reviewer, a better place is WP:RfPP (as noted in the edit notice). ― Qwerfjkltalk 15:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Remove copyright

Please remove copyright from punchho.com . Because it's not a bot or spam url and trusted by Google also. 2409:4053:581:F6BD:FB83:4B63:2D2A:7EA1 (talk) 09:58, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, about that... "Google trusts it"

Furthermore, Google confused Punchho with Pucho (which has negative reviews on Glassdoor). I saw the URL. Seems to be a random Q&A site, either way, not a reliable proper reference. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 12:29, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Didn't realize this contributor was blocked already. Also, SPA moment. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 12:30, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 27 December 2021

add the "VV" text to the anti-wheels vandalism [WŴẀẂẄẆẈ₩] it ended up getting used in yet another WOW strike 172.112.210.32 (talk) 06:59, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done:

This is the current line:

.*[OÓÒÔÖÕǑŌŎǪŐŒØƏΌΟΩῸὈὉὌὊὍὋОӨӦӪ0][N₦ŃÑŅŇṆΝ][ ]?[WŴẀẂẄẆẈ₩][HΉĤĦȞʰʱḢḤḦḨḪНҢӇӉΗἨἩἪἫἬἭἮἯῊᾘЋΗⱧԋњһh][ÉÈËEĘĚĔĖẺẸẾỀỄễỂểȨȩḜḝĒḖḗȄȅȆȇỆệḘḙḚḛ3عڠeēėèéëẽĕęəẻếềẹ][ÉÈËEĘĚĔĖẺẸẾỀỄễỂểȨȩḜḝĒḖḗȄȅȆȇỆệḘḙḚḛ3عڠeēėèéëẽĕęəẻếềẹ]+[L₤ĹĽḶŁĿΛЛЉ7][S$ŚŜŞŠṢΣЅz5].* <moveonly> # Disallows moves with "on wheels" with 2 or more Es

What exactly do you want it changed to? — xaosflux ^Talk 18:10, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't know how regex works but I would assume it would be something like ([WŴẀẂẄẆẈ₩]/VV) to include "VV" as valid, like how ₩ is included, but as a 2-character string instead of one. 172.112.210.32 (talk) 03:35, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done (not ready to go) anyone is free to continue to discuss this, and when a ready-to-go request is ready, post it and reactivate the edit request. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:48, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Presumably the IP means
.*[OÓÒÔÖÕǑŌŎǪŐŒØƏΌΟΩῸὈὉὌὊὍὋОӨӦӪ0][N₦ŃÑŅŇṆΝ][ ]?([WŴẀẂẄẆẈ₩]|VV)[HΉĤĦȞʰʱḢḤḦḨḪНҢӇӉΗἨἩἪἫἬἭἮἯῊᾘЋΗⱧԋњһh][ÉÈËEĘĚĔĖẺẸẾỀỄễỂểȨȩḜḝĒḖḗȄȅȆȇỆệḘḙḚḛ3عڠeēėèéëẽĕęəẻếềẹɘ]{2,}[L₤ĹĽḶŁĿΛЛЉ7][S$ŚŜŞŠṢΣЅz5].* <moveonly> # Disallows moves with "on wheels" with 2 or more Es
Qwerfjkltalk 21:29, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

IP, can you provide a link to the log where this happened? — xaosflux ^Talk 22:08, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

User_talk:WiIIie 0n Christmas VVhɘɘls. The name's it. Can't be sure this is another one of WOW's accounts but based on the number of Unicode substitutions it's more than likely. 172.112.210.32 (talk) 02:16, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

should this request be reopened? now that we know what the 172 is referring to as well as put ɘ on the blacklist? 67.21.154.193 (talk) 16:37, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

67.21.154.193, WP:BEBOLD. ― Qwerfjkltalk 16:39, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

(I just modified the regex above; see Special:Diff/1094273800.) Qwerfjkltalk 17:35, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I reopened it. 67.21.154.193 (talk) 17:43, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

I would recommend .*[0OÒ-ÖØŌ-œƏǑǪΌΟΩОӨӦӪὈ-ὍῸ][NÑŃ-ŋΝṆ₦] ?([WŴẀ-ẉ₩]|VV)[HhĤ-ħȞʮ-ʱΉΗЋНњҢһԋӇӉḢ-ḫἨ-ἯᾘῊⱧ][3EeÈ-Ëè-ëĒ-ěȄ-ȇȨȩɘəعڠḖ-ḝẸ-ệ]{2,}[7LĹ-łΛЛЉḶ₤][$5SzŚ-ŠΣЅṢ].* <moveonly> # Disallows moves with "on wheels" with 2 or more Es. It's a bit shorter (by using Unicode ranges), plus it includes a couple more extra characters to cover. I used regexr.com to test. This new pattern should not be any more restrictive. SWinxy (talk) 02:08, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Added that. Let me know if any changes are needed — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks a bunch. Of course, only now when it's implemented do I see opportunities to be more exhaustive (e.g. .*on wh33ls.*, directly beneath it, is not covered). If there comes an issue once again, I'll make a new one. SWinxy (talk) 20:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 21 May 2022

Some regular expressions can be expressed with less characters:

• .*Huff Da(l|ll)and.* -> .*Huff Dall?and.*
• .*[OÓÒÔÖÕǑŌŎǪŐŒØƏΌΟΩῸὈὉὌὊὍὋОӨӦӪ0][N₦ŃÑŅŇṆΝ][ ]?[WŴẀẂẄẆẈ₩][HΉĤĦȞʰʱḢḤḦḨḪНҢӇӉΗἨἩἪἫἬἭἮἯῊᾘЋΗⱧԋњһh][ÉÈËEĘĚĔĖẺẸẾỀỄễỂểȨȩḜḝĒḖḗȄȅȆȇỆệḘḙḚḛ3عڠeēėèéëẽĕęəẻếềẹ][ÉÈËEĘĚĔĖẺẸẾỀỄễỂểȨȩḜḝĒḖḗȄȅȆȇỆệḘḙḚḛ3عڠeēėèéëẽĕęəẻếềẹ]+[L₤ĹĽḶŁĿΛЛЉ7][S$ŚŜŞŠṢΣЅz5].* -> .*[OÓÒÔÖÕǑŌŎǪŐŒØƏΌΟΩῸὈὉὌὊὍὋОӨӦӪ0][N₦ŃÑŅŇṆΝ] ?[WŴẀẂẄẆẈ₩][HΉĤĦȞʰʱḢḤḦḨḪНҢӇӉΗἨἩἪἫἬἭἮἯῊᾘЋΗⱧԋњһh][ÉÈËEĘĚĔĖẺẸẾỀỄễỂểȨȩḜḝĒḖḗȄȅȆȇỆệḘḙḚḛ3عڠeēėèéëẽĕęəẻếềẹ][ÉÈËEĘĚĔĖẺẸẾỀỄễỂểȨȩḜḝĒḖḗȄȅȆȇỆệḘḙḚḛ3عڠeēėèéëẽĕęəẻếềẹ]+[L₤ĹĽḶŁĿΛЛЉ7][S$ŚŜŞŠṢΣЅz5].*

Also, I think that Gadget( definition)? talk:.* could be changed to Gadget( definition)?( talk)?:.*. Keyacom (💬 | 🖊) 12:41, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

The second one can be reduced even further, using the repetition shorthand:

• .*[OÓÒÔÖÕǑŌŎǪŐŒØƏΌΟΩῸὈὉὌὊὍὋОӨӦӪ0][N₦ŃÑŅŇṆΝ] ?[WŴẀẂẄẆẈ₩][HΉĤĦȞʰʱḢḤḦḨḪНҢӇӉΗἨἩἪἫἬἭἮἯῊᾘЋΗⱧԋњһh][ÉÈËEĘĚĔĖẺẸẾỀỄễỂểȨȩḜḝĒḖḗȄȅȆȇỆệḘḙḚḛ3عڠeēėèéëẽĕęəẻếềẹ]{2,}[L₤ĹĽḶŁĿΛЛЉ7][S$ŚŜŞŠṢΣЅz5].*

–LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:12, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

May i add that titles with "on wheeels" with more than 2 e's should probably be disallowed as well. 67.21.154.193 (talk) 13:11, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Thats already the case. {2,} essentially means 2 or more of the previous thing. Aidan9382 _(talk) 20:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done Izno (talk) 21:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Ronald Merkle

• Add combination of "Ronald" and "Merkle"

Articles on this person are being persistently recreated by Debianr3 and OPservator, and others. Ronald Merkle and several forms of Ronald I. Merkle have been created and deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:42, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

E.g. .*Ronald.*Merkle.* — Qwerfjkltalk 06:50, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Will repeat what I said at RFPP that I think emasures like this will only make it harder to catch the abuse. Atac2 is not going to stop vandalizing just because we blacklist their favorite titles. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 06:53, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Fuller thoughts at Wikipedia:Salting is usually a bad idea (also discussing title-blacklisting). -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 19:44, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Hits for /.*ron.*me?rke?l.*/i. —Cryptic 23:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

What Tamzin said - I would strongly recommend we don't do this. firefly ( t · c ) 17:33, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. Izno (talk) 19:25, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Ahmed Al-Hemrayi

• Add Ahmed Al-Hemrayi, Ahmed Alhemrayi, and any combination of 'Ahmed' and 'Alhemrayi' or 'Hemrayi'.

There have multiple attempts to create articles on Ahmed Al-Hemrayi Ahmed Alhemrayi, and other disambiguated forms of these names. There are also attempts to evade the record by the insertion of unnecessary disambiguators after the name, which will be blocked by the title blacklist. Most of these attempts are made by sockpuppets. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:37, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

E.g.
.*Ahmed (Al)?-?[Hh]emrayi.* — Qwerfjkltalk 20:17, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

The intended name appears to be primarily Ahmed Al-Hemyari/Draft:Ahmed Al-Hemyari) or alternatively Ahmed Alhemyari/Draft:Ahmed Alhemyari. I'm not sure if [Hh]emrayi has been used. I see that some salting has been done, and do wonder whether much more is required at this stage. User talk:Mr intartok, probably an early account, was 6 months ago. Intartok20 was in June, and Intartok was a few days ago. They don't currently seem to be wandering too far off-title. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 21:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

The seventeen deleted hits (plus Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Alhemyari) for the wider pattern .*ahmed.*hemyari.* are here. There are none for .*ahmed.*hemrayi.*. —Cryptic 21:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: I'm somewhere in the realm of "get consensus"/"is this really a problem"? Two admins before this comment who haven't acted on the request yet. Izno (talk) 19:27, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Beaner

I have compiled a list of all the pages, existing or deleted, that contain the anti-Mexican ethnic slur beaner — specifically, matching the regex .*[Bb]eaner.* — in the title at the Quarry, using code recycled from the Ronald Merkle request above. The results consist mostly of user talk pages, many for users blocked for vandalism or offensive usernames. Aside from Beaner itself, the only mainspace pages matching the word are:

• Barney's Beanery
• Redirects to Biggby Coffee: Beaner's, Beaner's Coffee, Beaner's Gourmet Coffee, Beaners
• Beaner Lake
• Coffee Beanery
• The Beanery

Any thoughts, particularly pertaining to beanery? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:35, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Entries on the title blacklist are case-insensitive by default, which is my regex matches at Quarry always start (?i). They can be overridden to be case-sensitive, but that's usually counterproductive - most vandals determined to start a page like Draft:Why boss is a fat beaner would try Draft:WHY BOSS IS A FAT BEANER before things like Draft:Why boss is a fat b e a n e r or such. Case-sensitivity here misses BEANER'S Gourmet Coffee, User:BEANER, User talk:BEANER, User talk:BEANER101, User talk:BEANER666, User talk:BEanerWIThaBURRItOgun, and User talk:YOUNGBEANER (which we'd want it to match) and also User:Proud2BeaNerd, User talk:Proud2BeaNerd, User talk:CaribbeanErasmus, User talk:TheBeaNerd, File:BengeoBeaneRoad.jpg (which we wouldn't).

Separately, that's enough false positives in mainspace compared to the number of true positives outside userspace that I wouldn't ever consider blacklisting this myself. —Cryptic 22:27, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Edit request 29 September 2022

Description of suggested change:

Diff:

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ORIGINAL_TEXT

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CHANGED_TEXT

114.125.164.206 (talk) 00:38, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:46, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

False positive match for title containing ayin ring

A title containing a modifier letter left half ring, used in some contexts for transliteration of Arabic, threw a false-positive match for a blacklist entry beginning with (?!(User — it is unclear which one — when I attempted to move the article Abū al‐ʿUqūl to the same title with a hyphen-minus instead of the non-ASCII hyphen. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

My tests have shown that. For example, attempting to move User:LaundryPizza03/Happy 'Ayin, al-Iktibar (with an apostrophe) to User:LaundryPizza03/Happy ʿAyin, al-Iktibar (with an ayin) failed. In the meantime, the article has been moved by WP:RM/TR and then I moved it to Abu al-'Uqul using the basic romanization, per WP:TITLESPECIALCHARACTERS. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:18, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Removing an entry?

I don't usually mess with the blacklist, but Ticket:2023040210003924 was requesting the removal of an entry, and it seemed reasonable enough. What's the usual procedure for removing items from the blacklist? CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 21:36, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Unless you're going to do it yourself, or want to use the admins' noticeboard, you should probably just propose it here using an edit-request template if appropriate. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 22:37, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 10 April 2023

Please add the following entry to the title blacklist: Special talk:.* <errmsg=Titleblacklist-custom-special-discuss>. Then add the following to the title blacklist notice MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-custom-special-discuss:

{{editnotice
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|1={{Notice
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|text=<big>'''This is not the talk page for the special page [[{{replace|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Special talk:|Special:|count=1}}]]!'''</big> The talk page for this special page is located at [[{{replace|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Special talk:|Wikipedia talk:Special:|count=1}}]].<br/>{{#ifeq:{{lc:{{BASEPAGENAME:{{#ifeq:{{replace|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Special talk:|Special:|count=1}}|}}}}}}|{{lc:Special:BlankPage}}|This special page might be used by a [[Wikipedia:Gadgets|gadget]] or a [[Wikipedia:User script|user script]] that you have installed. If so, please contact the script owner if you notice a problem with this page.|To report a bug with this special page, please submit a bug report on [[phab:|Wikimedia Phabricator]]. It is possible that a [[Wikipedia:Gadgets|gadget]] or a [[Wikipedia:User script|user script]] that you have installed is interfering with the special page.}}<br/><small>If this is the page that you are trying to {{#ifexist:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|edit|create}}, please ask for help on the [[Project:Administrators' noticeboard|Administrators' noticeboard]] or {{submit an edit request/link|display=submit an edit request}}.</small>
}}
}}

I believe this is an uncontroversial entry because the Special talk: namespace does not exist, and new users might be confused where to discuss special pages or report bugs for them. A new user might assume that "Special talk:ListUsers" is the talk page for "Special:ListUsers", given Wikipedia talk:About and Talk:About are talk pages. MediaWiki does not have special talk pages and showing a notice letting them know where the actual talk page is will be helpful for new users. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 17:18, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

I object. This is a solution in search of a problem. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:49, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim do you have any evidence that this is actually a problem? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:46, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Pages with this sort of title have been deleted about a dozen times. Once even in the last decade! And I suppose there might have been moves without redirects, but those aren't as easy to look for. —Cryptic 10:07, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

No, wait, it's only the move target that's ridiculous to check. Still, the only move ever from this title pattern was this test in 2012. —Cryptic 10:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: No response from OP — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:53, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Characters outside the Basic Multilingual Plane

Is this too broad?

.*[^\0-\x{FFFF}].* <casesensitive> # Very few characters outside the Basic Multilingual Plane are useful in titles

I ask because of 𠔻 (talk · contribs), whose username matches this pattern but, as far as I can tell, doesn't break the username policy. – Joe (talk) 14:06, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Titlewhitelist exempts single-character titles in article and talk namespaces, such as 𠔻, and should probably do the same for all other namespaces. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC)