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December 30
Disambiguating the two Elizabeth Oldfield's
Hi, we already have a page for the Mills and Boon author and British writer Elizabeth Oldfield: Elizabeth Oldfield
I'm considering creating a page for another British writer also named Elizabeth Oldfield. Notability on basis of two independent reviews of her book Fully Alive.
eview: Fully Alive by Elizabeth Oldfield | Premier Christianity
Book review: Fully Alive: Tending to the soul in turbulent times by Elizabeth Oldfield
Our middle-class commune (joint bank accounts, noisy sex and all)
I'm thinking of disambiguating by making her page be Elizabeth Oldfield (podcaster), on the grounds that the Times article uses podcaster as its primary description of her. Before I go ahead, I wanted to get some feedback. Does this seem reasonable?
AndyGordon (talk) 09:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- That seems to me reasonable. The disambiguation word or phrase can easily be changed later, if there's a consesnsus for something different. Maproom (talk) 14:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Please check reference 6. I have done my very best with this editing - but I always get something wrong. Thank you for your guidance. Srbernadette (talk) 10:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorted, you had an access date of 30 December 20203. Theroadislong (talk) 10:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Srbernadette How can we ensure that you stop adding dates that are 18,000 years in the future? qcne (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Is this truly something that's a desperate immediate need for Wikipedia to attend to? Obvious tyops like that are something that everyone has made at times, and yet for things such as numeric values (e.g. dates) also very difficult in the general case for a computer to "catch" automatically—in contrast with spell checking where it can just compare against a word dictionary. The reason ref templates have error-checking is because to err is human. (But, to really foul things up requires a computer!) Slowking Man (talk) 17:34, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- There's something to be said when this happens over the course of roughly a decade. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- If an editor wishes they can set up a user script to warn them before saving an edit if there is a template error on the page. And does VisualEditor give some kind of notice if a template is throwing errors? Otherwise, is there really much impact on things here? A bot can always go around cleaning up simple typos in the intricate template syntax that not every person has a head for. I'm not aware, is there much precedent for telling a user "you must start using these error-flagging tools or else we will restrict your account"? Seems like a discussion for someplace like WP:VP with more visibility. --Slowking Man (talk) 20:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- My experience with VisualEditor is that it doesn't. I expect 99% of people making the same mistake over and over again to have some degree of pattern recognition, and that they would devise strategies to prevent them from happening in the future. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- If an editor wishes they can set up a user script to warn them before saving an edit if there is a template error on the page. And does VisualEditor give some kind of notice if a template is throwing errors? Otherwise, is there really much impact on things here? A bot can always go around cleaning up simple typos in the intricate template syntax that not every person has a head for. I'm not aware, is there much precedent for telling a user "you must start using these error-flagging tools or else we will restrict your account"? Seems like a discussion for someplace like WP:VP with more visibility. --Slowking Man (talk) 20:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- There's something to be said when this happens over the course of roughly a decade. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Is this truly something that's a desperate immediate need for Wikipedia to attend to? Obvious tyops like that are something that everyone has made at times, and yet for things such as numeric values (e.g. dates) also very difficult in the general case for a computer to "catch" automatically—in contrast with spell checking where it can just compare against a word dictionary. The reason ref templates have error-checking is because to err is human. (But, to really foul things up requires a computer!) Slowking Man (talk) 17:34, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Question
What if I was an admin and I wanted to resign? Gnu779 (talk) 14:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gnu779 any admin may resign at any time by posting a message at the bureaucrats' noticeboard. See Wikipedia:Former administrators/reason/resigned for a full list (which is way longer than I thought) '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
GA Review - How to 'Close' out the talk page?
I currently have two finalized GA reviews, and I am unsure how I apply the, "The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion" notice to the review's discussion to prevent it from being molested. What is the best way for me to do this? Happy New Year, GGOTCC (talk) 19:29, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- {{atop}}, and {{abot}}. Although, you don't have to do this. There's also a userscript that does all of the promotion/archiving for you Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! GGOTCC (talk) 23:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Is there any way to "force" a specific image below "the jump" (first subhed) to be a thumbnail?
Hello! Just created Portraits of Andrew Jackson and don't want to prefer one or another by including it in the lede (which is too short right now anyway). But as a mobile user I do live for our thumbnail images. Is there any secret/magical code I can use to tag one of the images to be the article's designated thumbnail while leaving it where it currently sits lower down the page? Please and thank you for helping! jengod (talk) 21:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jengod: mw:Extension:PageImages#How does it select images? says: "If $wgPageImagesLeadSectionOnly is true, only images in the lead section will be considered. This is true for Wikipedia projects only; all other projects can pull images from outside the lead." This cannot be overridden. It may be possible to trick the extension by having image code in the lead but wrapped in something which prevents a browser from actually rendering the image. However, I would oppose such shenanigans. If you want a page image then just place it in the lead. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent information! I will not shenaniganize, but I might eventually read a book or two and expand the lede so there's room for me to drop in a favorite or three. TYSM @PrimeHunter! jengod (talk) 22:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Resolved
- Excellent information! I will not shenaniganize, but I might eventually read a book or two and expand the lede so there's room for me to drop in a favorite or three. TYSM @PrimeHunter!
