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Reference number 5 is wrong - I have failed again. Please fix; I (or the team I am on) will not be attempting to edit next year - 2025. Thanks you and my apologies againSrbernadette (talk) 00:26, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- ✅ Folly Mox (talk) 00:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Again, Srbernadette, you wrote 2024 as 20244. Why is it that you cannot see and correct such obvious errors on your own? Cullen328 (talk) 01:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Could it be that your keyboard is jamming? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 12:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Again, Srbernadette, you wrote 2024 as 20244. Why is it that you cannot see and correct such obvious errors on your own? Cullen328 (talk) 01:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Looking for any policies and guidelines on Portals?
I feel like the answer will be obvious when someone says it, but where are the guidelines or policies on portals? Wikipedia:Portal is an info page with a banner from five years ago saying it needs to be updated. I looked around but only see WP:POG, a failed proposal. Other non-article content has a guideline that at least defines what should be kept or deleted. Is there an equivalent to Wikipedia:Redirect/Deletion reasons somewhere for Portals? Rjjiii (talk) 04:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- The sort of "realist" answer is few people care about portals and they're neglected. A glance at the talk page there will indicate that the answer to your query appears to be "nowhere really". WP is a volunteer shindig and so if no one works on a thing it just doesn't happen. --Slowking Man (talk) 02:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Gotcha, thanks, Rjjiii (talk) 21:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
I have added a file from commons and is far too big. please fix if you can. You could correctly caption it: "Pickenham Hall, Norfolk, home of Collenette's mother" - Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 07:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Done with this edit. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Srbernadette, that article entirely fails to explain why this English gentlewoman ended up as an expert on the flowers of Saudi Arabia. Why is that? Cullen328 (talk) 09:00, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- John of Reading, I don't believe that Pickenham Hall, Norfolk was the home of Collenette's mother, she married in 1923 (Burke's Peerage 1934 via Google books) then Collenette's mother's father "JOHN SMITH MORETON , of Pickenham Hall , Nor- folk ... purchased the Pickenham and Houghton - on - the - Hill estates in 1924" ((Burke's Landed Gentry 1939 via Google books).
- Cullen328, Srbernadette didn't write the article so they may not know much about Collenette's biography. TSventon (talk) 15:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out, TSventon. Cullen328 (talk) 19:13, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Cullen328, the article is still very short, but I have added a sentence saying that Collenette visited Saudi Arabia while her husband was working there. TSventon (talk) 22:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out, TSventon. Cullen328 (talk) 19:13, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Srbernadette, that article entirely fails to explain why this English gentlewoman ended up as an expert on the flowers of Saudi Arabia. Why is that? Cullen328 (talk) 09:00, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
How to change username?
Is there any way to change my username? I don’t really like it. Cometkeiko (talk) 07:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. See WP:UNC Meters (talk) 07:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Using edit summary to let out personal feelings
How to deal with a user who undid an edit then uses edit summary to just explicitly let know their personal feelings over a constructive criticism like this one then restoring it back? I've been avoiding that user since we were blocked for an edit war but they keep coming to my edits I've made (be it on an article or on my talk page). 𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 08:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- My personal suggestion is that if their comments or behavior bother you, but they're not impacting the enyclopedia (the reason why we are all here) much at all, to just ignore it, since, does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? If someone is causing trouble impacting numerous editors, they will attract attention and people will "do something about them" sooner or later. If you find editing Wikipedia to be causing stress, a good first step is always to take a short break, do something else that you enjoy, take a walk outside to decompress, anything you might find enjoyable. Wikipedia isn't a job or obligation and there is no deadline. Also might want to try switching gears and editing some other areas: there are plenty of tasks to do and who knows, you may even find some of them interesting!
- (It wouldn't be very challenging to have a userscript that "ignores" a user, by just "collapsing" their edits in edit history and on talk pages into something like "1 edit hidden, click to expand". Someone might even have already made one along those lines; if interested you can go looking at what's out there. If not I could take a stab at it if it's something someone might find useful.) Slowking Man (talk) 17:26, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well I've been doing that this past few days but when I would come back here to edit a content of an article to make it better, that other user would undo it then put something on edit unrelated to why they undid it then restored back to how I edited it, like "what's the point for undoing it then restoring it back?" Anyways, thanks for those tips, and I will find and use that userscript you suggested. Cheers and happy new year! 𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 20:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
A user desperate for a war again
How to deal with a user looks really desperate to declared a war to me again. This edit summary is so sensitive to me, and no longer normal for me. I want to go in that user talk page to give some advise but i know this user will lastly revert my edit and said "Vandalism", so what i do is just leave it on the edit summary. Everything i do on this Wikipedia, this user will always appear, like a few months ago, i've created a several draft that is ready to published but in the end all of it is just useless because the all of the mainspace is created by this user, like i didn't even get any chance for my only interest topic in this Wikipedia. — Aidillia(talk) 08:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Aidillia. No editor can possibly cause another editor to engage in Edit warring. That is literally impossible. Edit warring is entirely the responsibility of the editor or editors who choose to engage in edit warring, which is a blockable offense forbidden by policy. Nobody is forced to click the blue "Publish changes" button. So, always refuse to engage in edit warring, which is forbidden by policy, which bears repeating. There are many Dispute resolution procedures available to you, which should be used instead. Cullen328 (talk) 08:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ok thanks. I will have a look at it soon. Aidillia(talk) 09:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also you might want to take a look at WP:NFF as this article itself is potentially a candidate for deletion as there has not been significant coverage of this future film. TiggerJay (talk) 20:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
I've created Category:Books about Australian rules football
Hi all,
I've created Category:Books about Australian rules football which is pretty obviously wrong, and *I don't know how to fix it*.
Yep I'm an WP:ADMIN with about 58K edits, but also someone who knows their limitations - in this case I'm teh WP:CIR when it comes to templates.
Could someone who groks template coding possibly step in here and fix it up?
Pete AU aka Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Shirt58! Please look at the category page and see if it looks like what you expected. :) --CiaPan (talk) 11:03, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- PS. I'm afraid I do not understand what you mean about templates. Do you want some template to be added to the category page? It gets done exactly the same way as in regular articles. --CiaPan (talk) 11:05, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I usually try to find and adapt a similar existing category. I have checked Category:Books about American football and added two more categories. TSventon (talk) 11:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- And thank you to everyone who has replied here and fixed that up. For reference, I've sometimes described myself as a "non-technical" admin. By that I mean I have pretty much no clue whatsoever about the questions that come in at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:42, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I usually try to find and adapt a similar existing category. I have checked Category:Books about American football and added two more categories. TSventon (talk) 11:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Template edit help needed on Template:Ice hockey team roster/sandbox
I'm editing {{Ice hockey team roster/sandbox}}, trying to add a new column, but have it only show if a parameter equals "yes".
My test implementation using this new column is currently at User:MikeVitale/sandbox. I'm basing the code I added to the Ice hockey team roster sandbox off of {{CIH schedule start}}, which I'm familiar with the usage of.
My end goal here is to combine {{Player7}} into {{Player4}} (love those descriptive names), and eventually TfD both Player7 and {{Ice hockey minor league team roster}}. --MikeVitale 15:06, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @MikeVitale: I have encoded a pipe as
{{!}}[1] so it isn't interpreted as a separator between parameters to#ifeq. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)- Thank you for the help! --MikeVitale 05:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Finding a taxonomic error over 100 years old while doing research for an article
What the title says. How should I properly address it in the article, given that it seems to have flown under the radar of actual experts? I'm working on an article on Eoscorpius, an extinct genus of scorpion from the Paleozoic Era first described in 1868, but it appears that some experts used the name, unaware that it was already taken, to describe an extinct Miocene fish of the family Cottidae in 1919. No one seems to have noticed this mistake, and there exist rather recent articles on the two very different organisms using the same genus name. Even the Paleobiology Database is confused; it lists Eoscorpius primaevus, intended as the name of a fish, with the rest of the Eoscorpius species, which are actual scorpions (that was actually what led me to first notice something was off, when I saw that the supposed different species of the same genus were separated by hundreds of millions of years). Anyway, that's my situation. What can I do to address it without falling into original research territory? Anonymous 20:05, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to me that you can note that the Eoscorpius described by one source is a fish and that described by the other source is a scorpion, and rely on common knowledge that these are different taxa to comment that these uses are inconsistent, but you should not attempt to resolve the inconsistency, or even to account for it, if you have no source that discusses the inconsistency. ColinFine (talk) 20:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- ColinFine's advice is right-on. After that, you may want to contact a taxonomist or two, probably ones with expertise in the Paleozoic. Who knows, you just might wind up getting co-author credit on a scientific paper! --Slowking Man (talk) 23:56, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @User:ColinFine and @User:Slowking Man, here's how I ended up writing the article. I did my best to lay out the facts without putting forward my own interpretation. I also have reached out to an official source, so we'll see how that goes. Anonymous 17:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- That looks like the best you can do, @An anonymous username, not my real name. Note that any personal communication you receive from an "official source" will not be usable on Wikipedia. A note in a reputable journal, however, would be citable. ColinFine (talk) 18:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @An anonymous username, not my real name, I see that you have nominated Eoscorpius for DYK, so hopefully a lot of people will be reading the article shortly. I would suggest noting the taxonomic error on the talk page and asking at the relevant wikiprojects if anyone there can help with secondary sources. TSventon (talk) 12:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I already reached out to the PBDB and ICZN, but doing some further asking around within Wikipedia sounds like a good idea. I'll make sure to do it. Anonymous 15:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @An anonymous username, not my real name, I see that you have nominated Eoscorpius for DYK, so hopefully a lot of people will be reading the article shortly. I would suggest noting the taxonomic error on the talk page and asking at the relevant wikiprojects if anyone there can help with secondary sources. TSventon (talk) 12:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- That looks like the best you can do, @An anonymous username, not my real name. Note that any personal communication you receive from an "official source" will not be usable on Wikipedia. A note in a reputable journal, however, would be citable. ColinFine (talk) 18:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @User:ColinFine and @User:Slowking Man, here's how I ended up writing the article. I did my best to lay out the facts without putting forward my own interpretation. I also have reached out to an official source, so we'll see how that goes. Anonymous 17:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Subheading alignment
Would someone please advise how to get the 'See also' header on Wartling to align to the left. I've noticed this occurring on a few articles - adding an additional blank line usually fixes it, but for some reason not here. Rupples (talk) 20:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I added clear template before "See also" section, and it seems ok when I view the article. Is this what you wanted? Cmr08 (talk) 20:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent. Thank you very much, @Cmr08, I'll try and remember this in future. Rupples (talk) 20:41, 31 December 2024 (UTC)