Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Archive 90
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209.99.195.35
- Username
- 209.99.195.35 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Grateful Dead discography (filter log)
- Description
- LP releases were made for Dick's Picks Volumes 6 and 8 per hhttp://www.dead.net/tags/dicks-picks and http://brookvalerecords.com/product/grateful-dead-dicks-pick-vol-8-5-lp-box-set-pre-order-ups-domestic-shipping/. did this get tripped up by the work "Dick's"?
- Date and time
- 17:20, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- This does appear to be a false positive. General Ization Talk 17:22, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Yes, it was the word "Dick's". There is an exception for certain uses of "Dick" in the article content, but not in the summary for some reason. @Someguy1221 and MusikAnimal: Could the filter be modified to allow the same exceptions in the summary? This seems to be a common problem, with four reports in the last few days. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:10, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- You're right that it wasn't doing the Dick check on summaries, but this false positive would still happen because "dick" is also in a URL. The FP at #Patrialt would have happened too, because Dick was being used as a last name. We could probably do a little better at preventing this kind of FP, but unfortunately it's impossible to make the filter completely FP-free. Adding much more complexity to the Dick checks might require some testing to ensure we aren't letting too much vandalism get through. Anyway I've made the change to do the current Dick whitelisting on the summary. Thanks — MusikAnimal talk 18:28, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: Thanks. FYI, I think it would have worked here, because the summary contains both "Dick's" and the "dick" in the URL and it only takes one whitelisted word for the filter to skip the whole thing. At least when I try it with
grep -P
it matches. Same with Patrialt's, where the match comes from the"\b([A-Z]([a-z]+|\.)?|[DM]r\.)\sDick\b"
part. Or am I misunderstanding something? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:00, 25 September 2018 (UTC)- Hmm okay yes I believe you are correct. I was going by the debugging tools, but fiddling around with it I can confirm the filter no longer matches this FP or Patrialt. Disregard! I'm going to occasionally monitor 384 today, to see the extent of FPs first hand. I found one (Dick-related) and fixed it, while I've seen a few edits that are legit dick-vandalism. I've also enabled Special:AbuseFilter/637 (old test filter) to see what dick vandalism is getting around 384. Maybe after enough time we'll have a better idea of costs/benefits. — MusikAnimal talk 19:47, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: And whaddya know, this just came up on my watchlist. Doesn't seem to have tripped 637. Can that filter be made public? I'd imagine most people who understand REs have outgrown the urge to make that kind of edit. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:11, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: There's some stuff in the log for 637, and the filter history itself, that can't be public. Instead I've moved over to Special:AbuseFilter/1 so you can see the logs. I don't know why Special:Diff/861196802 wasn't caught. Using the debugging tools I can see that edit matches the filter. — MusikAnimal talk 20:21, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow and MusikAnimal: Using a regex tester, it looks like 384 thinks that "Big Dick" is a name. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:38, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Someguy1221: 637 (since moved to filter 1) was set up to see how many cases of actual vandalism are slipping by filter 384 because of all the "Dick Name" exceptions. It should have caught any uses of "dick" regardless of context or capitalization, but somehow skipped Special:diff/861196802. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 15:56, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: That edit was made 40 minutes before Musik edited filter 1. Someguy1221 (talk) 16:22, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Someguy1221: Was 637 active at the time? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 16:24, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow:. Gah, sorry, I'm having trouble keeping all the filters straight. But no, 637 was not active yet. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:58, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking. Good to know it wasn't a bug. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 17:31, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow:. Gah, sorry, I'm having trouble keeping all the filters straight. But no, 637 was not active yet. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:58, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Someguy1221: Was 637 active at the time? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 16:24, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: That edit was made 40 minutes before Musik edited filter 1. Someguy1221 (talk) 16:22, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Someguy1221: 637 (since moved to filter 1) was set up to see how many cases of actual vandalism are slipping by filter 384 because of all the "Dick Name" exceptions. It should have caught any uses of "dick" regardless of context or capitalization, but somehow skipped Special:diff/861196802. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 15:56, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow and MusikAnimal: Using a regex tester, it looks like 384 thinks that "Big Dick" is a name. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:38, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: There's some stuff in the log for 637, and the filter history itself, that can't be public. Instead I've moved over to Special:AbuseFilter/1 so you can see the logs. I don't know why Special:Diff/861196802 wasn't caught. Using the debugging tools I can see that edit matches the filter. — MusikAnimal talk 20:21, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: And whaddya know, this just came up on my watchlist. Doesn't seem to have tripped 637. Can that filter be made public? I'd imagine most people who understand REs have outgrown the urge to make that kind of edit. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:11, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hmm okay yes I believe you are correct. I was going by the debugging tools, but fiddling around with it I can confirm the filter no longer matches this FP or Patrialt. Disregard! I'm going to occasionally monitor 384 today, to see the extent of FPs first hand. I found one (Dick-related) and fixed it, while I've seen a few edits that are legit dick-vandalism. I've also enabled Special:AbuseFilter/637 (old test filter) to see what dick vandalism is getting around 384. Maybe after enough time we'll have a better idea of costs/benefits. — MusikAnimal talk 19:47, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: Thanks. FYI, I think it would have worked here, because the summary contains both "Dick's" and the "dick" in the URL and it only takes one whitelisted word for the filter to skip the whole thing. At least when I try it with
- You're right that it wasn't doing the Dick check on summaries, but this false positive would still happen because "dick" is also in a URL. The FP at #Patrialt would have happened too, because Dick was being used as a last name. We could probably do a little better at preventing this kind of FP, but unfortunately it's impossible to make the filter completely FP-free. Adding much more complexity to the Dick checks might require some testing to ensure we aren't letting too much vandalism get through. Anyway I've made the change to do the current Dick whitelisting on the summary. Thanks — MusikAnimal talk 18:28, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Yes, it was the word "Dick's". There is an exception for certain uses of "Dick" in the article content, but not in the summary for some reason. @Someguy1221 and MusikAnimal: Could the filter be modified to allow the same exceptions in the summary? This seems to be a common problem, with four reports in the last few days. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:10, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
(←) Hopefully not a bug, but I wouldn't be surprised. Anyway I've disabled filter 1, assuming we have enough data to some analysis. I haven't gotten around to examining it, but if you're interested, the idea is to compare how many legitimate uses of "dick" (any capitalization) there are versus vandalism. It may be better to just let the patrollers handle it. Someguy1221 is right that "Big Dick" would currently get through. We could add some more regex to disallow that phrase, in particular, but then what about "Huge Dick", "Massive Dick", "Tiny Dick", etc.? There is no rock-solid solution, I'm afraid :( — MusikAnimal talk 19:40, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: I went through the ones that were not stopped by any other filter:
- 1 "Big Dick". Reverted in about a minute
- 2 3 4 Dick Names, not vandalism
- 5 Another "Big Dick". Reverted by ClueBot
- 6 Unconstructive edit about someone named "Dickov". Not a filter 384 issue.
- 7 "Dick Trageser", not vandalism (?)
- 8 9 "dickhead" and "dickhaed", vandalism, reverted quickly
- 10 11 "Dick Dastardly", vandalism, reverted by ClueBot the first time, took 24 minutes the second time
- 12 "Dick Butt", vandalism (but the article title is Dicks Butte, how is it still unprotected...?)
- 13 "dickson" but still vandalism/test. Reverted in under a minute
- 14 "International Big MicroDick", reveted in seven minutes
- 15 "mydickesskettit" vandalism of older vandalism, reverted by me after 15 hours
- 16 "dickheads", caught in under a minute
- 17 "Vodicka", not vandalism (?)
- 18 "dicka", vandalism, caught in about two minutes
- 19 20 "Dick Nolan", not vandalism
- 21 "dickMarat", vandalism, caught in about three hours
- 22 "dicksucker", reverted in three minutes
- 23 "suck my dickkkkkkk", reverted by ClueBot
- 24 "Dickerson" but still vandalism, reverted in 17 minutes
- So it looks like the "Dick Name" whitelist does more good than harm, and most of what slips by is caught by ClueBot and RC partollers anyway. If it's worth fussing with the regex at all, maybe it's actually
\bdick(sucker|head)?s?\b
or some variant that would help more. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2018 (UTC)- @Suffusion of Yellow: Haha to Nixon! Thank you immensely for doing this tedious analysis. I agree it seems our dick filter seems to be paying off, and the "Dick Name" whitelist should be retained. I have added sucker and head. I'm okay with that, but adding much more to the whitelisting regex I think may make things overly complex. You're keeping a good eye on FP reports, which I also really appreciate, and if more dick FPs pop up we can investigate further. Thanks again— Preceding unsigned comment added by MusikAnimal (talk • contribs)
- @Suffusion of Yellow and MusikAnimal: keep in mind Special:AbuseFilter/260, which is also supposed to detect these phrases. Also, I nearly fell out of my chair at "rock-solid solution". Someguy1221 (talk) 22:50, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: Haha to Nixon! Thank you immensely for doing this tedious analysis. I agree it seems our dick filter seems to be paying off, and the "Dick Name" whitelist should be retained. I have added sucker and head. I'm okay with that, but adding much more to the whitelisting regex I think may make things overly complex. You're keeping a good eye on FP reports, which I also really appreciate, and if more dick FPs pop up we can investigate further. Thanks again— Preceding unsigned comment added by MusikAnimal (talk • contribs)
64.130.64.172
- Username
- 64.130.64.172 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Ashanti discography (filter log)
- Description
- Was attempting to add Ashanti's newest guest appearance on Lil Wayne's Tha Carter V which released today. I think it was caught by the profanity filter. Here's what I tried to add to the bottom of the Guest Appearances table:
|- |2018 |"Start This Shit Off Right" <small>([[Lil Wayne]] featuring Ashanti and [[Mack Maine]])</small> |''[[Tha Carter V]]'' |}
- Date and time
- 17:10, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Done. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:25, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
EternalStudent07
- Username
- EternalStudent07 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Fanny_Adams (filter log)
- Description
- "sweet Fanny Adams" or "sweet FA" means "nothing at all" in part because it looks like another more colloquial form of "Fuck All" (it was British Naval slang). I tried to add this detail to make remembering the meaning easier, but was blocked. I don't know if there is a more polite form or method to use instead.
- Date and time
- 07:10, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @EternalStudent07: Done. It was already mentioned in the "Legacy" section, so someone might object to me adding to the lead as well. You may wish to watch the page, and bring it up on the talk page if that happens. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:43, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
2603:3003:2D31:8000:71E0:7DEE:948C:FE03
- Username
- 2603:3003:2D31:8000:71E0:7DEE:948C:FE03 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 20:57, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
The article written is false. The numbers of people dogs kill is not in the millions. Dogs are nice and I think this article makes dogs look like beasts that people shouldn’t adopt. Dog are nice animals and that why i think this one should be changed.
- I think you misread the article. It said that 4 1/2 million people a year are bitten by dogs, with only 20 - 30 actually resulting in death; both claims were verifiable with reliable sources. Also, while your good-faith efforts to improve the article are greatly appreciated, do note that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and therefore needs to be written from a neutral point of view. I love dogs as well, but our purpose is to prevent only factual information that's relevant to the page; "Dogs are good companions if you are nice to them be nicer to dogs and beware of wild dogs" isn't appropriate for this article. Putting that aside, welcome to Wikipedia; your enthusiasm with trying to improve content is really appreciated - I hope you continue to edit here! Also, just so that others know, the abuse log entry is Special:AbuseLog/22128193.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 21:05, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
173.90.208.37
- Username
- 173.90.208.37 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- I was editing the Waterford, PA wiki page to add "Alaska Thunderfuck" as a notable resident, as this individual, a drag queen, graduated from Waterford's High School, and went on to become a notable Drag Queen Actor. It just so happens "Thunderfuck" is his tag line name, and was marked by the system as unhelpful due to the nature of the name. Although as it is just a name, should be treated differently, and not offensively.
- Date and time
- 03:11, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Chimchongchiggedydo
- Username
- Chimchongchiggedydo (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Natalie Alyn Lind (filter log)
- Description
- The article incorrectly listed two birth years for Natalie Alyn Lind. As I'm sure you are aware, people are not born in two seperate years, with the only possible exception being when someone is born during New Years (December 31st/January 1st). According to multiple sources, Natalie Alyn Lind was born on [redacted]. Forgive me as I'm new to this, but wouldn't her actual birth date be more valid/accurate than listing multiple years?
- Date and time
- 13:26, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Chimchongchiggedydo: Actually, "1999/2000" just means "either born in 1999 or 2000" so it's not an error. That said, you edits to the articles were not blocked by the filter but reverted by HickoryOughtShirt?4 for being unsourced. It's not enough to simply state that "multiple sources" exist, you will need to cite them in the article. Please carefully read WP:BLPPRIVACY and remember (when it comes to the other article you edited) that it's extra important to follow when it comes to minors. I see that you tried to bring this up on your own talk page and also with HickoryOughtShirt?4, but that's when the filter stopped you. The filter is marked private, so an explanation of why that happened will have to wait for someone with private filter access. In the meantime, if you have multiple reliable sources, you can try suggesting the change (and your sources) at Talk:Natalie Alyn Lind instead. If the filter stops you from doing that, come back here. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:14, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining this! I'm new here as I'm sure you can tell. Trying to get the hang of things. Would it be incorrect to change the birth year to reflect a single year without citing a specified source? Chimchongchiggedydo (talk) 21:11, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Chimchongchiggedydo: According to the source already in the article, she was 17 years old on October 2 2017. So all that's cited so far is that she was born sometime between October 3 1999 and October 2 2000, hence the "1999/2000". We can't be any more specific without another source. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:36, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Also pinging Cyberpower678 in hopes of an explanation of why this user couldn't edit their own talk page. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:36, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Chimchongchiggedydo Should retry those edits now.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 13:18, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Also pinging Cyberpower678 in hopes of an explanation of why this user couldn't edit their own talk page. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:36, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Chimchongchiggedydo: According to the source already in the article, she was 17 years old on October 2 2017. So all that's cited so far is that she was born sometime between October 3 1999 and October 2 2000, hence the "1999/2000". We can't be any more specific without another source. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:36, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining this! I'm new here as I'm sure you can tell. Trying to get the hang of things. Would it be incorrect to change the birth year to reflect a single year without citing a specified source? Chimchongchiggedydo (talk) 21:11, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Idigitalsindia
- Username
- Idigitalsindia (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- I want to move sandbox to Wikipedia but it is not moving
- Date and time
- 06:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done I don't see anything that was prohibited by the filter. Also, there was no content changed in any of the revisions. EggRoll97 (talk) 14:08, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
71.212.22.216
- Username
- 71.212.22.216 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Cymbalta is basically poison. You should change the page to reflect the reality that we are facing.
- Date and time
- 17:55, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Working as intended, clearly. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 19:14, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
Misc
- Username
- Misc (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Tanya Harford (filter log)
- Description
- I was trying to add information about Tanya Harford being a organizer of the pride parade in South Africa until 2013. My text was the following: "She served as chair for the Joburg Gay Pride Festival Company, who was organizing the Johannesburg gay pride parade until the dissolution of the company in April 2013, following controversy over the 2012 edition". I did also have 2 refs, 1 over a article of the guardian about the controversy, and one over a south african publication for LGBT community covering the dissolution. (I am not sure if I can paste the links there as I do not want to trigger the filter a 2nd time)
- Date and time
- 19:36, 29 September 2018 (UTC) Tornado chaser (talk)
- Comments
It looks like a new user adding the word "Gay" must have triggered the filter, your edit was not vandalism and I just added the content that the filter blocked you from adding with no problem. I think thew filter let me do it because I have been editing for longer. Tornado chaser (talk) 19:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, I am indeed usually editing the french one from time to time, but I guess that I am too new for the english one and the status doesn't transferMisc (talk) 19:58, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- I think you are right, settings on french wikipedia and english are different and status doesn't transfer. Tornado chaser (talk) 20:00, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
104.181.141.24
- Username
- 104.181.141.24 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- [[ season 4]] (filter log)
- Description
- On the wikipedia page for Fear The Walking Dead season 4 the name billing is incorrect because Lennie James receives the special "and" credit billing at the end. He's the last credited series regular of season 4 and Jenna Elfman is constantly being changed to the last credited person despite the fact that she is NOT credited last she is credited second to last, I'm not even sure the person who does the edits watches the show because other they'd be changing it. it goes in credit like this Kim Dickens, Frank Dillane, Alycia Debnam-Carey, Maggie Grace, Colman Domingo, Danay Garcia, Garret Dillahunt, Jenna Elfman and Lennie James. Look the edits I'm making aren't to vandalize, but the information is false she is not credited last. Just watch any episode in the first half of that season and you'll see.
- Date and time
- 01:10, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Seemingly caused by the "was here" in your edit summary; leave that out and the edit should go through. @Someguy1221: Perhaps "that was here" should be excluded from the "____ was here" test as well. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 02:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:24, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
76.121.101.124
- Username
- 76.121.101.124 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- [[1]] (filter log)
- Description
- removed malformed scope-"row" code from the "Version-specific features" table which somehow pasted "https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Ambigram_Fuck_You.gif" into the first cell of each table. This first appeared with the edit "18:50, 6 January 2018 Ringbang"
- Date and time
- 05:36, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- JJMC89 has fixed the problem, which was due to vandalism, at Template:Rh2. I have requested protection of the template so that something similar does not happen again. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 06:00, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
2600:1700:E7D0:6C00:4DE6:A4C7:1BAB:6BAA
- Username
- 2600:1700:E7D0:6C00:4DE6:A4C7:1BAB:6BAA (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 01:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Working as intended, very clearly. Further such actions on your part may result in a block. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 06:01, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Zachlogan35
- Username
- Zachlogan35 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Clay high school (Green Cove Springs, Florida) (filter log)
- Description
- The page had the old principal listed so I was updating the page to show the current principal
- Date and time
- 10:13, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Confirmed on the school website and completed the edit. LynxTufts (talk) 12:51, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Gkblogs
- Username
- Gkblogs (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 03:32, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Not done User was blocked. EggRoll97 (talk) 14:51, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Abelucas
- Username
- Abelucas (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 13:03, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- You're trying to move a draft to the Wikipedia namespace, which is intended for information on Wikipedia policy and not articles. Drafts should not be moved to the main article space, except by reviewers when the draft has been accepted.
- You removed the {{AFC submission}} template while editing your page, so I readded it. If your draft is complete, please mark it as such using the 'Submit your draft for review' button at the bottom of the box. LynxTufts (talk) 15:43, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
ThomasArildsen
- Username
- ThomasArildsen (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Java Web Start (filter log)
- Description
- There is a message box in the section "Notable applications" encouraging improvement of the section by adding references. I tried to do so by adding a reference to the description from JOSM on how to use it via web start.
- Date and time
- 08:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
2604:2000:1500:5574:E8EA:998F:CB0F:E607
- Username
- 2604:2000:1500:5574:E8EA:998F:CB0F:E607 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Lana Del Rey discography (filter log)
- Description
- Updating her latest released songs. One of them is called "Venice Bitch", which is what appears to have triggered a false positive.
- Date and time
- 01:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Done. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:34, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
131.230.102.58
- Username
- 131.230.102.58 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Southern Illinois School of Law (filter log)
- Description
- I was trying to edit the SIU Law to reflect updates.
- Date and time
- 18:08, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @MMEKEL: The filter only gave you a warning about not providing an edit summary because unexplained content removal tends to get reverted as vandalism. Indeed, that's exactly what happened, and two users, Kirbanzo and Ifnord have undone your changes, so it's best now if you discuss the changes at Talk:Southern Illinois University School of Law if that happens again. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:47, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
85.237.234.134
- Username
- 85.237.234.134 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Dr. Luke production discography (filter log)
- Description
- adding his official credits for Kim Petras' new EP Turn Off The Light, Vol 1.
- Date and time
- 22:27, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Done. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 04:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
2607:9880:4030:15:A5F5:27FB:7552:B6F4
- Username
- 2607:9880:4030:15:A5F5:27FB:7552:B6F4 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Sunni Islam (filter log)
- Description
- I changed quite a bit of lead that led me here. This article is filled with Shia crap right on the top which is confusing the reader as to if this article is about Sunni Islam or Shia.
- Date and time
- 18:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Filter working as intended. Try reading WP:CIVIL and rephrasing the edit summary accordingly. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 04:12, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
MStockCH
- Username
- MStockCH (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Comparison_of_metadata_editors (filter log)
- Description
- I tried to fix the syntax/formatting of the table, the (pretty new) VRmeta-entry which caused this problem does somewhat sound a bit like spam though (at least the description does), but I just tried to fix the table.
- Date and time
- 12:24, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @MStockCH: The filter just warned you that the edit was possibly malformed. It still allowed it to go through so no further action is needed. LynxTufts (talk) 12:51, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for the reply and the explanation. I saw that my edit was successful, but was a bit surprised by the warning message. MStockCH (talk) 19:08, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Relevant to this: Wikipedia:Edit_filter/Requested/Archive_10#Warn about broken proxies. @Zzuuzz: Is MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning really the right warning message for this filter? Seems rather WP:BITEy and confusing IMO. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:09, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: Unfortunately this filter remains necessary, though it could always use a little work. I've implemented a new warning: MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-malformed. Feel free to suggest changes. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- Relevant to this: Wikipedia:Edit_filter/Requested/Archive_10#Warn about broken proxies. @Zzuuzz: Is MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning really the right warning message for this filter? Seems rather WP:BITEy and confusing IMO. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:09, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for the reply and the explanation. I saw that my edit was successful, but was a bit surprised by the warning message. MStockCH (talk) 19:08, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Tornado chaser
- Username
- Tornado chaser (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Gardasil (filter log)
- Description
- When I made these edits [2][3] I got a big warning message saying I was adding citations to a predatory open access journal and asking me if I was sure I wanted to proceed with the edit, this happened on both edits, It did let me make the edits, but why was it warning me not to add unreliable sources when I was removing references and not adding any? Tornado chaser (talk) 19:42, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Date and time
- 03:22 and 03:48 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Tornado chaser: The filter isn't checking for
removed_lines
, and the line you were editing still contains adoi=10.4172
from another reference. @JzG: Perhaps we need a: !(removed_lines irlike "doi[ ]*=[ ]*10.(1234|1999|2495|4018|4172|4236|5897|11648|15373|17265)")
- in there? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- I know nothing about the code used for edit filters, I just know that the predatory journal filter is not supposed to discourage removal of such journals. Tornado chaser (talk) 21:34, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Tornado chaser: There were two links to predatory journals on that line, and you only removed one of them. The filter should have noticed that, and not issued the warning, and the fix I suggested to JzG (ping didn't go though the first time for some reason, so trying again) should prevent any more false positives of this type. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:40, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. @Tornado Chaser:, you probably didn't recognise the name Tomljenovic, but any paper written by her is not reliable. She has no qualifications relevant to vaccines, but writes anti-vaccine papers anyway. Guy (Help!) 21:44, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- @JzG: Your welcome, that name sounded vaguely familiar from something I read on respectful insolence once, thanks for reminding me who that is. (I did end up removing that too cause it was in a predatory journal). Tornado chaser (talk) 21:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. @Tornado Chaser:, you probably didn't recognise the name Tomljenovic, but any paper written by her is not reliable. She has no qualifications relevant to vaccines, but writes anti-vaccine papers anyway. Guy (Help!) 21:44, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Tornado chaser: There were two links to predatory journals on that line, and you only removed one of them. The filter should have noticed that, and not issued the warning, and the fix I suggested to JzG (ping didn't go though the first time for some reason, so trying again) should prevent any more false positives of this type. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:40, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- I know nothing about the code used for edit filters, I just know that the predatory journal filter is not supposed to discourage removal of such journals. Tornado chaser (talk) 21:34, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Pensono
- Username
- Pensono (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Two Feet (filter log)
- Description
- Adding new EP titled "A 20 Something Fuck" to the list of EPs. Intended edit:
*''A 20 Something Fuck'' (Part 1) (Republic Records, 2018)
- Date and time
- 04:02, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Pensono: Done. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:04, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
68.103.18.242
- Username
- 68.103.18.242 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 02:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Your contributions triggered edit filter warnings, i.e. "large deletion from article by new editors" and "new user removing reference grouping tags", as is intended. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 03:03, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Musicest
- Username
- Musicest (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 09:54, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
172.254.85.226
- Username
- 172.254.85.226 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- 2018 in Canadian music (filter log)
- Description
- Trying to add the album Dose Your Dreams (released Oct 5th) by the band Fucked Up; disallowed because of the band name.
- Date and time
- 13:35, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Done. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:03, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
106.193.7.68
- Username
- 106.193.7.68 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Rashmika Mandanna (filter log)
- Description
- Special:Diff/862891725 & Special:Diff/863083627 Addition of bad words or other vandalism
- Date and time
- 15:30, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @ZI Jony: The one edit that wasn't revdelled (Special:Diff/862891725) looks like clear vandalism to me. Are you saying that the filter should have stopped those edits, but didn't? WP:Edit filter/Requested is the place for that. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:39, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
123.211.5.147
- Username
- 123.211.5.147 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- The Drones (Australian band) (filter log)
- Description
- Changed official band site to TFS Records page (which The Drones run) as original links to unrelated shopping blog and is no longer supported. Probably flagged due to expletive.
http://www.tropicalfuckstormrecords.com/
- Date and time
- 02:22, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Done, and changed the other link in the infobox. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 03:56, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Spawns96
- Username
- Spawns96 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- khanuma (filter log)
- Description
- The play is a russian play I was editing below the english in the "History" section to help portray its russian roots to add some extra credibility.
- Date and time
- 17:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- This is the English Wikipedia. Articles need written to be in English, and any non-English phrases or quotes need to be translated. If you want to contribute in Russian, you can edit the Russian Wikipedia's page. LynxTufts (talk) 19:15, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
37.152.231.45
- Username
- 37.152.231.45 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- List of Arabic star names (filter log)
- Description
- Quite by chance, I've discovered that including the link MOS:BOLDAVOID in an edit summary triggers an abuse filter. If links are removed from the bold face reiteration of the article title and the edit summary does not include the link, it's not flagged (eg [4]). If the edit has nothing to do with links in bold text, but the link is included in the summary, it is flagged (eg [5]). So the filter seems to be a search for that link in the edit summary and nothing more. If I see links in the bold face reiteration, I remove them, and I put a link to the relevant guideline into my edit summary. I think that this is exactly in accordance with all policies and guidelines on how articles should look, how to edit, and how to help others follow the guidelines. It seems bizarre and wrong that edit filters are being used to flag this as abuse, doesn't it?
- Date and time
- 19:49, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Blpedit
- Username
- Blpedit (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 01:22, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Blpedit: The filter was triggered by the word "pussy" in a filename. I see you've found a way around that, by uploading the file under a different name. Unfortunately, I've had to mark both files as copyright violations; they seem to have been copied from here. Unless William Wegman wishes to release the image under a free license, it cannot be used here. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 02:30, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
83.28.181.115
- Username
- 83.28.181.115 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- template:x1 (filter log)
- Description
- full content is on 863578191
- Date and time
- 17:33, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Garakuta
- Username
- Garakuta (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Usertalk:garakuta (filter log)
- Description
- personal talk page; issue (report of discrimination against person with visual disabilities) was blocked by "an automatic filter"
- Date and time
- 17:11, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Not done This is not a false positive. Praxidicae (talk) 17:13, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- The filter is working as it should. This was not a "report" of anything; this was a loud vulgar rant (PARTS OF IT SHOUTY WITH ALL-CAPS) and vituperative abuse of Wikipedia, with no consideration of the technical factors involved and nothing even remotely suggesting a desire to actually fix anything. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:11, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
2604:2000:B991:6500:15FE:EBFF:6AC9:E9CE
- Username
- 2604:2000:B991:6500:15FE:EBFF:6AC9:E9CE (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Muggle (filter log)
- Description
- I was putting the correct definition muggles
- Date and time
- 21:25, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- (Non-administrator comment) The filters are working as intended for their purpose. In this case, they prevented blatantly disruptive edits. 84.250.17.211 (talk) 01:27, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
AlanAdams1
- Username
- AlanAdams1 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Shannon Noll (filter log)
- Description
- I attempted to make it slightly more readable. It was mostly good, but a few (very minor) edits had to be made.
- Date and time
- 10:57, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @AlanAdams1: Done. It looks like you got past the filter, then ClueBot NG reverted you anyway. I've undone ClueBot's edit; if that's not the version you preferred, let me know. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 02:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Weirdmall
- Username
- Weirdmall (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- IM Flash Technologies (filter log)
- Description
- update the co-CEOs names and update the product IM Flash creates- 3D XPoint
- Date and time
- 02:04, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Weirdmall: Done. It was name "Blaha" that tripped the filter. Bored kids like to add "blah blah blah" and such to articles, so the filter thought that was vandalism. @MusikAnimal: Any ideas? I tried searching for
insource:/ Blah[a-z]/
(naughty me) and got 1027 hits for Blaha, Blahnik, Blahyi, and many others. It seems lots of people have names starting with "Blah". If we changed filter 384 to match only\bblah\b
, then "blahblahblah" etc., will get through. Maybe match\b(blah)+\b
or\bblah(b|\b)
. Or, KISS, and go with\bblah\b
anyway, and let RC patrollers deal with the "blahblah"s? If the regex is getting too complicated, we can remove the(?!\1)
after([asdfghjkl;])
, which (at least in my local libpcre) tries to match the capture over at\bcock(s?|sucker)\b
, so couldn't have been doing anything useful in the first place, unless I'm missing something. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 03:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
84.250.17.211
- Username
- 84.250.17.211 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Wikipedia:Sandbox (filter log)
- Description
- #51: LTA Username / LTA IP hopping disruption (Oshwah). I think I know how to trigger this private LTA filter reliably with "false" positives now. @Oshwah: Hi? Also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2018 October 10 (filter log).
- Date and time
- 01:19, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Perhaps ironically, this very "false" positive report also created a filter log line. 84.250.17.211 (talk) 01:20, 12 October 2018 (UTC); edited 01:23, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think your attempt to ping Oshwah went through, so I'll ping him for you. In any case, that filter is log-only, so false positives are not really worth
reportingworrying about, IMO. If the filter reliably identified bad-faith edits, it would have been set to actually do something by now. The name "abuse filter" is rather unfortunate but baked in by the software; we use "edit filter" whenever possible. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 03:48, 12 October 2018 (UTC)- Most of the false positive issues from Edit Filter 51 were actually fixed about an hour ago, coincidentally. This should no longer be an issue. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:16, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think your attempt to ping Oshwah went through, so I'll ping him for you. In any case, that filter is log-only, so false positives are not really worth
Kittysundae
- Username
- Kittysundae (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Gigi Hadid (filter log)
- Description
- I attempted to update her nationality to Dutch-Palestinian because her mother is Dutch according to her mother's wikipedia profile
- Date and time
- 23:57, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Kittysundae: Try disabling your "Donald Drumpf" browser plugin. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 00:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
160.2.43.122
- Username
- 160.2.43.122 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Victimisation (filter log)
- Description
- I was trying to add to "Secondary Victimization" under the "Victimization" heading. I am part of the Psychology Wikipedia Initiative in trying to substantially add literature and reviews to this topic.
- Date and time
- 22:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
71.209.201.24
- Username
- 71.209.201.24 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Trail of Tears (filter log)
- Description
- In Outcome, change "The forced relocation included all tribes located of east of the Mississippi." to "...several...." & remove the "of" between "located," & "east." The 5 Civilized Tribes, not all Eastern tribes, were removed. I know this, as enrolled in one, from grade school, & from a wiki page I just read, I think on the Removal Act, but I'm tired, did really another page I THINK before that, & I'm on my cheapo cellphone so I can't verify it without losing this page. I'm not pulling mischief. I swear. It didn't involve many Iroquois & many Eastern Algonquin tribes bc they didn't have enough land to bother & were considered sufficiently conquered. Pequots, Virginia Algonquins, Passamaquoddy, Micmacs, Lenapes, are a few examples. Larger Southern tribes were affected, not "all" east of the Mississippi.
- Date and time
- 10:58, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Done. It was the "lol" in your edit summary that tripped the filter. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:00, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
SilSinn9821
- Username
- SilSinn9821 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- List of Atlantic hurricanes in the 18th century (filter log)
- Description
- Improving the reference to a book by meteorologist Wayne Neely on ancient tropical cyclones (ISBN 9781532011504)
- Date and time
- 02:03, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- See above. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 03:03, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
SilSinn9821
- Username
- SilSinn9821 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- 1830–39 Atlantic hurricane seasons (filter log)
- Description
- Improving an existing reference to a book on deadly tropical cyclones published by a professional meteorologist Wayne Neely (ISBN 9781532011504) and adding a reference to another book on tropical cyclones by David Longshore (ISBN 9781438118796)
- Date and time
- 01:52, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @SilSinn9821: Unfortunately every time you add the string "iUniverse" to an article, the filter will give you the warning. If you feel the Neely ref is a reliable source in spite of being self-published, just ignore any future warnings. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 03:03, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- That explains why previous mentions of the Neely reference omitted the name of the publishing company. SilSinn9821 (talk) 14:27, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
2601:199:4302:ABE0:6980:DBCF:A0DE:23C9
- Username
- 2601:199:4302:ABE0:6980:DBCF:A0DE:23C9 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Space hopper (filter log)
- Description
- Trying to add info on the usage of the toy in the film Bat Pussy
- Date and time
- 22:27, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Already done. The end of the section says
The pornographic parody film Bat Pussy (1973) features the titular character using a space hopper for transportation. A character named Space Hopper, which resembles a toy space hopper, appears in Ian Stewart's book Flatterland
, so no need to add it again. I actually already did so, but self-reverted when I realized it was there already.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 22:33, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Max Spiess Startup Founder
- Username
- Max Spiess Startup Founder (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 18:12, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done No request specified. -- Alexf(talk) 22:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
96.4.132.4
- Username
- 96.4.132.4 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- daniel shays (filter log)
- Description
- Date and time
- 19:03, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done No request specified. -- Alexf(talk) 22:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
204.102.252.22
- Username
- 204.102.252.22 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 19:50, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done No request specified. -- Alexf(talk) 22:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Lc580
- Username
- Lc580 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Victor Salva (filter log)
- Description
- trying to edit the page as he is best know for being a paedophiles not his film work, this fact should be prominant enough to appear when the name is searched on google
- Date and time
- 19:46, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Note: Article already contains a section on this issue. -- Alexf(talk) 22:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Charlemajne
- Username
- Charlemajne (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- The Hague (filter log)
- Description
- Was deleting FuckUpNights from the Hague page as they rarely if ever occur in The Hague but are mainly based in Rotterdam. I was also adding The Hague Tech which has been an impactful actor within the startup scene and also houses multiple organisations already listed.
- Date and time
- 12:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- I deleted the whole section. See WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:LINKFARM. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 03:27, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Garbuck
- Username
- Garbuck (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- List of nicknames used by Donald Trump (filter log)
- Description
- Add an entry for Congressman Joe Crowley
- Date and time
- 05:52, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done. The nickname was used by the NYPost in the headline; Trump just used the word as a descriptor from what I can tell. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 04:27, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
197.245.182.57
- Username
- 197.245.182.57 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 08:53, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments