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I believe article has already been saved/sources added/article rewritten, 1st AfD ended five weeks ago. More eyes welcome, plus help finding sources from early career/socializing. Gleeanon409 (talk) 17:51, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think some just avoid those sorts of articles. Looking up sources to read about that subject means you have to read about that which you most likely do not want to read about. Dream Focus 03:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- As a rule, the reliable sources rarely get into the physical aspects of porn. And Slater got into the directing and music composition which is a lot less sexy.If nothing else finding sources that might help is also useful as I can probably get copies from WP:RX. Gleeanon409 (talk) 04:06, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Gleeanon409, book and newspaper mentions from the Internet Archive trove: [1], [2], [3], [4] -- GreenC 12:52, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! Will check them out. Gleeanon409 (talk) 15:23, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Gleeanon409, book and newspaper mentions from the Internet Archive trove: [1], [2], [3], [4] -- GreenC 12:52, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- As a rule, the reliable sources rarely get into the physical aspects of porn. And Slater got into the directing and music composition which is a lot less sexy.If nothing else finding sources that might help is also useful as I can probably get copies from WP:RX. Gleeanon409 (talk) 04:06, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
A further clue that may help, “Film director John Duffy”, might be his birth name. Gleeanon409 (talk) 17:57, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- The first three were just brief mentions but I was able to add the fourth. Thank you again! If anyone finds more on “John Duffy” that might coincide with his being an editor/columnist/musician/model/director please let me know! Gleeanon409 (talk) 05:18, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
“The result was keep. Consensus is now clear to keep after the last nomination in June.” Gleeanon409 (talk) 05:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Abner-Drury Brewery (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
A fun research project on a long-defunct brewery in Washington, D.C. I've had success searching the Internet Archive for both "Abner Drury" and "Abner-Drury Brewery"; newspaper databases also fruitful. I will "buy" a "beer" for anyone who finds fun info on this one (by which I mean: I will place a picture of beer on your talk page). AleatoryPonderings (talk) 15:36, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Burry's (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
I have heard of the scooter pie but, being British, it's as alien to me as a Jaffa cake must be to an American. Anyway, this seems to be a good slice of Americana in need of some TLC. "They're Bury..Bury Good!" Andrew🐉(talk) 13:29, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Kept The result was keep 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:16, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
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I’ve identified sources and re-written the article, it’s a television episode. Gleeanon409 (talk) 12:26, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Geirmund the Noisy (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
"He was an unreasonable and hard man to deal with..." Don't get me started...Andrew🐉(talk) 20:24, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Management (game) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
May have references in old, out of print sources given the age of the game. BOZ (talk) 05:18, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Infantry Attacks series (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
May have references in board game sources for the various games in this series. BOZ (talk) 05:18, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
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Here, we are mainly concerned with rescuing articles from deletion but this tends to mean that we're usually working on weak, obscure topics. But even the most vital topics are in need of assistance and here's a topical example. Stonehenge is in the news and so I just nominated it at ITN. But already there's some opposition, saying that the article doesn't have enough references. As the ARS specialises in such work, members might like to try this high-end, vital topic for a change. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:42, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- Huh? 110 references isn't enough? YGBSM 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:02, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- WP:ITN/C is a strange place. For another recent example, Carl Reiner is another vital topic with even more references but this wasn't enough for some and so the subject was denied an entry in ITN's list of recent deaths. But over a million readers read his article regardless. Go figure... Andrew🐉(talk) 12:40, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- Been there and done that. I know. Doctor John was another one I was also involved with. Perverse thinking, IMO. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:08, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- WP:ITN/C is a strange place. For another recent example, Carl Reiner is another vital topic with even more references but this wasn't enough for some and so the subject was denied an entry in ITN's list of recent deaths. But over a million readers read his article regardless. Go figure... Andrew🐉(talk) 12:40, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Roger Treat (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
American sportswriter, mainly in newspapers. Wrote a monumental history of American football and was an advocate for racial integration in sports. If anyone has a Newspapers.com subscription (which I do not) and would like to contribute, please do! AleatoryPonderings (talk) 20:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Nomination withdrawn. We await the close Lightburst (talk) 19:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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- List of fictional schools (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
This looks serious. We'll need to mobilise Dumbledore's Army, the Scooby Gang, Ferris Bueller, the Owl of the Remove, the Bash Street Gang and the hellions of St Trinians! Andrew🐉(talk) 19:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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- ASC Shipbuilding (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
Is this Australian Shipbuilding Company worth saving? Or ought it be merged into various parent companies? To paraphrase George Tenet, finding reliable sources should be a "slam dunk". But we know how that prediction about WMDs in Iraq worked out. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:03, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Hamilton McWhorter III (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
Another pilot is in peril. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Did you know nominations/Hamilton McWhorter III 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Kept AFD closed as keep. Nomination withdrawn. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:44, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Munchausen by Internet (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
- This article is about Factitious disorder imposed on self which is another way of saying Munchausen syndrome by proxy (a form of Victim playing). The article needs some paring and probably the removal of any synth. If we cannot fix this one it could possibly be merged to the target Factitious disorder imposed on self. Unsure if this should be a stand alone, but it is long, and perhaps we can at least trim extraneous material so that it can be merged or kept or gulp...deleted. Lightburst (talk) 13:33, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- I trimmed some of the fat, but this article still needs to go on a diet. Lightburst (talk) 19:08, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Ludwig Bürgel (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
- Claim to notability: Ludwig Bürgel was an Austrian landscape artist. He was considered representative of naturalism. The city of Seekirchen named the street that connects main street with the train station Ludwig Bürgel Weg. WP:BASIC includes multiple published sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. --Greg Henderson (talk) 23:15, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Deleted The result was delete. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:51, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Cary S. Cox (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
- Claim to notability: Cary S. Cox was an American mechanic and inventor best known for creating a raisin seeder, a cotton gin, and a pressure fruit grinder. Criteria WP:BASIC includes multiple published sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. See also the Talk page for edit requests. I have a conflict of interest with this article in my AfD discussions. --Greg Henderson (talk) 21:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Looks notable to me. I have added RS Lightburst (talk) 23:53, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Deleted Per the closer: "The result was delete. I see this was listed for rescue by a COI editor and a bunch of rescue regulars voted to keep with assertive arguments. I'm not going to give those votes much weight. The delete side has given a detailed source analysis showing they fall short and has reviewed their votes after improvement. Consensus to delete is therefore solid." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:58, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Ralph Tomlinson (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
- Claim to notability: he "Wrote the original lyrics to "The Anacreontic Song", and the song was later adopted as the tune of the national anthem of the United States." Right now it is essentially an unsourced article and this lyricist died in 1778. Lets see if we can WP:PRESERVE this contributor to the Francis scot Key song. Lightburst (talk) 22:32, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:50, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Ellwood Walter (businessman) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:13, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Ellwood Walter was President of the Mercantile Mutual Insurance Company in New York for 28 years. The New York pilot boat Ellwood Walter, No. 7 was named after him. He was a trustee for the Nautical School for the harbor of New York to educate boys in seamanship and navigation. He was Vice-President of the New York Seamen’s Association. He was awarded a silver medal and money by the American Benevolent Life Saving Society of New York. I assume sourcing can be improved, although I think that it suffices. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:16, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Not sure that it was posted here. Had to withstand serial nominations for AFD. first nomination and 2nd nomination. But it was expanded and successfully rescued. User:Lightburst deserves a shout out. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Albanese Candy
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On 20 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Albanese Candy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Albanese Candy makes gummy confectioneries in the shape of worms, snakes, butterflies, khaki-colored soldiers, and jet fighter aircraft? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Albanese Candy. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Albanese Candy), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
- Thanks to 7&6=thirteen for getting so many articles that we have improved on the main page. I was excited to see the gummy bear company make it through the process! Thanks 7&6!
- Albanese Candy
- Benno Bikes
- Democracy Manifest
- Bertha Boronda
- Elizabeth L. Gardner
- Richard Haine
- Daniella van Graas
Lightburst (talk) 15:39, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. I know you missed:
- And probably others.
- Our success at rescuing articles, expanding them, and taking them to the main page is a way to prove the worth of WP:ARS. It is the perfect answer to the self identified naysayers and disparagers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:05, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- 4,282 people viewed the candy article yesterday. Lightburst (talk) 19:14, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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- What we have here, is a failure to communicate. I count 11 AfD nominations for different forms of failure articles. Can we succeed where others have failed? Lightburst (talk) 18:41, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Carmel Art Association (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
- The arts! What can we do? Lightburst (talk) 16:20, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Joseph Henderson (pilot) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
A change is as good as a rest so here's a different sort of pilot. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Both sides make compelling arguments. Let's have some more input. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 17:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC) 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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*Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL *Andy Auld (Royal Navy officer) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
not yet a 2nd afd. But it's in play. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:48, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note that three of us found our way there because its on our watchlist, before this was tagged for assistance in finding more reliable sources to prove it is notable. Dream Focus 14:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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- This is all about trashing the DYK. See here. In Wikipedia and DYK, life really is a zero sum game. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:09, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Saddens me. I think Wikipedia is better with the article. And I think there can be a new local consensus---perhaps the dyk process is just that consensus. Lightburst (talk) 14:44, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- It was SD and I started a thread with the admin who deleted the article -JzG Lightburst (talk) 15:18, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- It was contested by three wikipedia regulars, and it was speedily deleted. Out of process by an interested party, IMO. A second AFD discussion at least should have been required. not same article that was deleted before. Surely there is a way to contest/appeal this high-handed buggery. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:24, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Saddens me. I think Wikipedia is better with the article. And I think there can be a new local consensus---perhaps the dyk process is just that consensus. Lightburst (talk) 14:44, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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- List of adult animated films (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
This is an actual thing, and nothing to do with how American's use the word adult to refer to porn, but instead an actual genre. Need help finding more reliable sources for the entries on the list. Dream Focus 12:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Akron Ice House (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
We take refrigerators and air conditioning for granted nowadays but it wasn't always like this... Andrew🐉(talk) 11:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Tolulope Arotile (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
The picture's good enough for me but others want more. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Picture was copyrighted. And the AFD continues. I've posted it In the News candidates so there is some urgency in getting this resolved. But that is itself a trippy process. "You don't need a weatherman to see which way the wind blows" 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:05, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- In the News candidates rejected it. As I said, that is quirky, and they look for excuses to not run it. The AFD didn't help. Will do a DYK. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Kept Per the closer: "The result was no consensus. I'm not seeing obvious evidence of mass canvassing here to discount opinions from experienced and long standing editors." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:41, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Robert L. Birmingham (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
Long time law professor. Many influential articles. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:01, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
SkyscraperCity Fifth nomination
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- SkyscraperCity (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
- This one is a website for tall buildings 9 world's largest online forum on skyscrapers) The article claims "As of 2019, the forum has over 1 million members, 1 million threads and over 110 million posts." Let us see what we can do to fix it. Lightburst (talk) 21:42, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Ratonero Murciano de Huerta (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
Spanish Rat terrier. I've added sources, but they are all foreign language. Spanish speakers might help. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:12, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Withdrawn by nominator – notability established by Neodop. Not yet acted on. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:03, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep; withdrawn by nominator." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Kept. But there is an ongoing discussion about purging the sources here. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:50, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Businessmen's Educational Fund (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
This was founded to educate business leaders about what was happening to their country – that it was becoming too "militaristic and aggressive" and that this was causing massive waste. This was a time of cover-ups and whistleblowers. Plus ça change... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:25, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
James D. Marks second nomination
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- Seems I can find information rather easily. Activist, inventor: went to Columbia and has a page there. Check out his patents.
Was a keep in 2014. Lightburst (talk) 17:58, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Team conflict (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
Team players wanted. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:43, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Very erotic very violent (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
I'm not sure I'm brave enough to search for sources using these keywords. It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it! Andrew🐉(talk) 08:57, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep." The first AFD was a "speedy keep" but the second was not. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:50, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Bubonic Plague of 2020 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
You thought the virus was bad? The Black Death has just said "Hold my beer!" As you'll be hearing more about this, it's good to be well informed... Andrew🐉(talk) 19:05, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Freimann Hotel Building (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
- Historic 1896 building in Green Bay Wisconsin. Listed in the Wisconsin Historic Society's Register. I have begun formatting refs, adding sections, categories and info. Perhaps some other research avenues are yet to be explored? Lightburst (talk) 23:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Newtown Hardware House (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
This place burnt down once before but was saved. Can it be saved again? Andrew🐉(talk) 16:03, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- This is an informative article. I say any building that can be in continuous use for 151 years is encyclopedic. I started to fix it up! Lightburst (talk) 00:05, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- I approached the admin and asked to reopen after he closed as merge. I have been actively working on the article. It seems the admin has now put a merger discussion on the article. Lightburst (talk) 16:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- This is an informative article. I say any building that can be in continuous use for 151 years is encyclopedic. I started to fix it up! Lightburst (talk) 00:05, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
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The article is in little danger of deletion but will be enjoyable to research and expand. See also the European Beer Star. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:28, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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This is not just a perennial pawn in the great game. It's a chance to learn about concepts like catachresis and cacography. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:23, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
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This could use attention from some experienced editors who understand AfD/article rescue. —valereee (talk) 18:19, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
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This escaped into the wild too early, unreferenced. I see hope of making it pass it's current AfD if sufficient clever folk can reference it. Note the alternate spelling Shubhro Fiddle Faddle 16:17, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
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This is an amusing analogy for Wikipedia – a complex, shifting reality which keeps changing in a protean way but never makes complete sense while none of the versions and revisions ever really go away. The best summary I've of it seen so far is that "it's all true!". What it really means that the authors and editors can do whatever they like – just like Wikipedia, eh? Andrew🐉(talk) 19:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- I have added some more sources but whether it is enough to save it I don't know. Theroadislong (talk) 16:57, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep. WP:HEY" 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:44, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Question as to sources. This is an article about religious artwork. Lightburst (talk) 22:26, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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I found some some good sources in Google Scholar but when I try Google Books, it suggests State of Fear! Andrew🐉(talk) 10:40, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks to Dream Focus, I now understand what Google was getting at. See small penis rule. Andrew🐉(talk) 00:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
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There is no pending AFD. Rather, a user is simply editing it out of existence. Doing indirectly that which he can't do directly. See Talk:Cthulhu Mythos deities article talk page. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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- An article that needs clean up. Legal terminology/concept which is well known. Lightburst (talk) 01:34, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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100 year old country club. Perhaps it has received some press during the century?nominator suspects COI. Lightburst (talk) 02:29, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Having a real hard time finding sources. Anybody got a newspapers.com account? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:10, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- You can contact them at https://www.meadowbrookcountryclub.com/public/about-the-club/contact-us by filling in the form or using the email address listed. Say something like: The Wikipedia article for this club is up for deletion. I was curious if you had ever been reviewed or written up in any notable publication. By Wikipedia standards at least two reliable sources must provide significant coverage for something to have its own article. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Meadowbrook_Country_Club_(Chesterfield_County,_Virginia) Dream Focus 22:12, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Good idea, I also have a Newspaper account I shared with 7&6. I also improved the article a bit. Lightburst (talk) 22:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Relisted. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- Kept Per the closer: "The result was no consensus. No further comments after the article was improved." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:10, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Relisted. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- Good idea, I also have a Newspaper account I shared with 7&6. I also improved the article a bit. Lightburst (talk) 22:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete rationale involves a lack of sourcing. Perhaps we can add citations? Lightburst (talk) 13:24, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- It's snowing in June, 3 days before Summer Solstice. Yippee! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Suparatana Bencharongkul Second nomination
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- A young woman who is a leader in the field of agriculture. Many of the sources are foreign language, but I managed to find quite a few english sources. The article could use our help. Lightburst (talk) 19:06, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Well known artist who produces Album Art. Can we show that this artist passes WP:CREATIVE#1? Some pretty wild album art you can see here and here. Lightburst (talk) 16:06, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Per the nominator: "SPEEDY KEEP Nomination withdrawn after the massive improvement of the article. It is a great pity that the article was sitting here tagged for freaking 5 years! Where have y'all been before?" Not yet closed. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:20, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- This article was nominated for deletion on 14 June 2020. The result of the discussion was Speedy Keep. Per the closer: "The result was Speedy Keep. Nominator has withdrawn, unanimous consent to Keep, helpful advice has been given, no reason to keep this up any longer. (non-admin closure)" 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:52, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Can we show that this is a notable subject? England or bust! Lightburst (talk) 04:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- I took this one to deletion review. Lightburst (talk) 15:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Can we source this article? Should we? Unsourced for 12 years an article about a motorcycle tuning company. The nomination rationale is about the lack of sourcing and not much else. Lightburst (talk) 14:13, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- The result was keep. (non-admin closure) 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:34, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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Southern Vietnam village. See WP:NGEO. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:33, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
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Imagine if galleries allowed members of the public to destroy the works that they didn't appreciate. That would be a scandal. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Author and journalist (fashion writer) from Scotland. Wrote three books. Her latest is a novel: The New Girl 2020. The article already has ten references but perhaps we can build this article better. Lightburst (talk) 02:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
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Lessons learnt
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Yoast It may be kept; it may be deleted later. Stealth deletion is for real. Nobody of the keepers from the prior vote was aware or showed up. The usual suspects voted delete. An agenda fulfilled. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:49, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- There are those who want this series of transactions kept secret. The Star Chamber will brook no contempt. Responded to ANI notice here. Apparently has never heard of the Streisand effect. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:09, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- JW !voted to keep in the first AfD.
Keep - 100 employees, multiple reliable sources, notable product.--Jimbo Wales
Perhaps a DRV is possible. Lightburst (talk) 21:12, 2 August 2020 (UTC)- Yes, User:Jimbo Wales voted yes. But he is just one vote. And the result was undone as noted above. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:50, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- JW !voted to keep in the first AfD.
- I just noticed this. You're making it look may more diabolical than it actually is. These are SEO companies. They specialise in enlarging their online footprint and use backhanded tactics to do so; culture pollution. A deleted Wikipedia article won't erase them from history. This energy would have been better utilised at other underrepresented areas; corporates are already way overrepresented. Regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 10:40, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- It looks like there's a lot of prior history that I don't understand understand behind all this. But do you really need to talk in coded language for all this? Have you considered that it is the ARS that looks like a Star Chamber/Secret Society and not the AfD voters and nominators? TryKid [dubious – discuss] 10:50, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- User:TryKidThe article's deletion history speaks for itself. And so does the attempt to cover it up. You should examine it yourself and make your own judgments. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:59, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- Is it possible to cover up anything on Wikipedia? All AfDs and PRODs I made are searchable through edit summary since all of them are made through Twinkle. There's also a AfD stat tool. I accept that I made a mistake with The Hitavada AfD, I didn't understand policies well at the time. I understood my mistake pretty quickly but didn't know about withdrawing AfDs and assumed the process is to let it run and it'll kept anyway since a very experienced editor has voted keep. Apart from that, I think all my votes and nominations are fair judgements in good faith, and I will stand by them even if those SEO articles are kept. I'm not some mega deletionist, I'm a small time editor with just 4k edits. I've also voted keep a number of times (33%). I think you've misunderstood me. Regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 11:19, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- Anyway, my point was that there is likely no diabolical group of people who want to delete everything from the encyclopedia; just some people trying to keep it free from junk. Your selection of those specific AfDs suggests I'm part of this group of "usual suspects" when I've barely participated in a dozen AfDs. TryKid [dubious – discuss] 11:54, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- If the shoe does not fit, don't wear it. Sorry that you were offended.
- As you say, you are not a regular participant at AFD. Your experience may be different than mine, so your generalization reflects your limited view. 'Your mileage may vary', so to speak.
- I note, however, that you have stereotyped and implicitly condemned participants at WP:ARS. I would submit that they too deserve the presumption of WP:AGF. If you are giving out indulgences, you ought to be consistent. But you'll have to figure that out on your own. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:31, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't want to reply to this but... can an editor get away so easily after casting aspersions if they do so in a "blind item" style against some unknown "usual suspects"? I understood that you didn't refer to me, but who did you refer to? Participants in the Moz AfD? Light2021? Devokewater? Accesscrawl? Bearian? Perhaps more than one of those. Do you intend to decrease AfD participation by antagonising the participants? If it is so, that won't really work; battleground mentality is no good. TryKid [dubious – discuss] 17:48, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- User:TryKidThe article's deletion history speaks for itself. And so does the attempt to cover it up. You should examine it yourself and make your own judgments. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:59, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- It looks like there's a lot of prior history that I don't understand understand behind all this. But do you really need to talk in coded language for all this? Have you considered that it is the ARS that looks like a Star Chamber/Secret Society and not the AfD voters and nominators? TryKid [dubious – discuss] 10:50, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoast SEO relisted. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:05, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- Barbra Streisand Happy Days Are Here Again. -- GreenC 18:05, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- User: GreenC May, 1963. Vintage Streisand. thanks for sharing that. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:15, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Kept. Per the closer: "The result was keep. I think the outcome is now inevitable." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- No outcome is permanent on Wikipedia. ;) Regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 20:14, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- It's a work in progress. Better luck next time. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:46, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- No outcome is permanent on Wikipedia. ;) Regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 20:14, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Rescue list item created by COI: --Greg Henderson (talk) 16:59, 16 August 2020 (UTC)