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Josh Brar

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Unable to satisfy WP:GNG. Lack of significant coverage. B-Factor (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kerzner International

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An article on a hospitality firm, recently edited to become an article in its own right after previously being a redirect to the article on the founder (no longer a suitable redirect target). Searches find routine listings, a recent item announcing user-submitted awards, and a corporate restructuring announcement, which are insufficient for WP:CORPDEPTH. Clearly a firm going about its business, but I am not seeing the coverage needed to demonstrate notability. AllyD (talk) 12:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandra Ievleva

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level international medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - all citations are stats pages and mentions, nothing significant. Shinadamina (talk) 05:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The corresponding Russian article has a few decent sources, such as [[1]] and [[2]]. We probably need to look a bit closer into sources from Russia here to determine if the subject is notable or not. Let'srun (talk) 01:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dave Walls

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Non-notable sportscaster. Deletion suggested at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Spain. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 11:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Nothing in the article establishing notability about an unremarkable broadcasting career. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 06:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Collinear gradients method

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Not notable variant of Newtons method based upon a single primary source which has only a self-cite, created by a new editor. There are hundreds (thousands) of variants, only the main ones used in major codes and well cited merit inclusion; Wikipedia is not an optimization dictionary or how-to guide.

Draft:Collinear gradients method was declined at AfC by KylieTastic on December 29th. Author then copy-pasted it directly into main. Originator ignored WP:NPP notability etc comments, continuing to make minor expansions. Since original editor has contested AfC, it seems that draftification or PROD are inappropriate so straight to AfD. (N.B., possible COI of editor being author of the single source.) Ldm1954 (talk) 13:31, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Juliana Cannarozzo

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom. Deriannt (talk) 17:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not enough secondary sourcing to prove WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 03:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Subject easily meets WP:SPORTBASIC with a couple dozen sentences of independent coverage here, not including quotes of course, as well as a half-dozen sentences of coverage here. JTtheOG (talk) 22:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: While it would be nice if there were more sources, the sources uncovered by JTtheOG contain the needed coverage to meet the WP:NBASIC as they provide in-depth coverage of the subject. Let'srun (talk) 17:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's too bad this skater couldn't follow up that coverage with any meaningful results. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Baynews9 is mostly an interview with very little independent coverage, and a local ice show is not significant. The notability is far below that of a local principal, chief firefighter or physician. Geschichte (talk) 11:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keitaro Koga

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Retired in 2014 after 7 appearances in J3, unfortunately fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 12:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hiroya Iwakabe

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Poorly sourced BLP with no claim to notability. I found Gekisaka and Ameba, but these count for little more than database sources. No evidence of having the significant coverage for WP:GNG and doesn't seem to have kicked a ball since 2017. Japanese Wikipedia has nothing to offer. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tomoki Kamioka

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Fails GNG - has not played since 2016 RossEvans19 (talk) 12:24, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fatima Kome

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Contested draftify but with no apparent improvement. WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC both require multiple sources showing significant coverage. The only decent source that I can find is Allez Les Lions, which is a fairly standard transfer announcement regarding her move to the second French tier. I am not sure if Allez Les Lions is WP:RS as I couldn't find evidence of fact checking or professional journalism. Aside from that, I found Feca Foot, Chretiens and La Depeche, all of which are clearly trivial mentions. Since all we have is one borderline source, I can't see how this meets the notability criteria. Turkish Wikipedia had no decent coverage. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mixin Network

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The crypto exchange with sources only based on 1 event - stealing of 200 mln usd. Literally all 5 sources in the References are only about the same event. Not ready for Wikipedia and not enough reliable sources to establish notability per WP CORPDEPTH 89KimberlyRoad (talk) 12:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nobitex

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Only passing mentions of the subject with little or absent deep media coverage per WP:CORPDEPTH. Not enough notability, remove. 89KimberlyRoad (talk) 12:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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BitFlyer

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Bloomberg and other kind of good sources have only passing mentions of the subject. The available coverage is insufficient to meet WP:CORPDEPTH. Finmagnets and other sources are press releases mainly. 89KimberlyRoad (talk) 12:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bitso

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An article on a crypto-exchange company, created in a promotional way in a promo tone, with most references only passing mentioning the subject. The available coverage is insufficient to meet WP:CORPDEPTH 89KimberlyRoad (talk) 12:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mohammed Ramzan Ali Miya

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Non-notable writer. No RS found. Taabii (talk) 12:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, per above. Whilst there is over 400,000 Nepalis in Qatar, the vast majority are migrant workers and not permanent residents. Since Qatar only grants permanent residency to about 100 people a year, the percent of Nepali permanent residents could be as low as 0.025% of that. So being president of the Nepal-Qatar Friendship Association does not seem to be a good enough claim to notability. Sahaib (talk) 12:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan S Sultan

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The subject fails to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for academics or professionals. I cannot find independent, reliable coverage about their work or achievements Cinder painter (talk) 11:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of economics films

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List has been unsourced since 2011 (the two sources say nothing about a set of economics films) and I am unable to find real-world lists of such films. This is just a hodge-podge list of POV additions of what "feels" right. This does not preclude other more precise list scopes like stock-market films and/or films related to the Great Recession. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 11:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: as a WP:SPLITLIST of Economics film, into which a merge seems warranted anyway, as I mentioned when I DePROded the page today,, but size-wise, a split seems better. Can be improved,. -Mushy Yank. 12:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, economics film is a sham. It was a student's essay, and almost none of the sources bear out. I am putting evidence on that article's talk page now, then I will remove most of that content per WP:BURDEN. This proves why you can't just cite Wikipedia to make arguments. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I see you cut the other article quite massively. Feel free to rename the said article Economics in film or whatever you find appropriate. Or to merge the other article into this one and rename it List of films about economics, as it is less a "genre" than a topic. Books on the subject include Economics in Film and Fiction (2009); The Representation of Economics in Cinema: Scarcity, Greed and Utopia (2021); you can also use this kind of lists: https://inomics.com/blog/10-more-movies-economists-will-love-1531227, https://www.jstor.org/stable/26725780But it does seem to meet WP:NLIST as a set, even independently of the main article, so I'll stand by my !vote. I will not edit those pages myself, being a bit busy. -Mushy Yank. 13:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that economics in film could exist. The current prose article likely needs a complete overhaul since it was primarily a POV essay. As for listing, you're advocating that we should have a list of films about economics based on a corporation's list of "films that economists love" and on a list of "greatest films for teaching economics". Neither list are actually directly "about" economics, as most films can be read economically (or to go higher-level, philosophically) and should not be shoehorned in. The concept of economics is too broad, where we could more readily have a list of stock market (or Wall Street) films (I've seen WP:NLIST-satisfying sources for these) or films related to the 2007-2008 financial crisis (likewise). There is no clearly-defined list scope here for economics films or films about economics, though. We shouldn't try to make fit what was masquerading to fit in the first place. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 14:48, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Link to evidence here: Talk:Economics film § Evidence of essay approach. Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:31, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2017–18 FC Chernihiv season

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Another season article with no prose on a season so far down the Ukrainian pyramid that it is highly unlikely to have any notability per WP:GNG. In the unlikely event that something noteworthy did actually happen in this season, it could be summarised at FC Chernihiv, which currently lacks meaningful prose. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2018–19 FC Chernihiv season

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A season 'article' with no claim to notability. Chernihiv played in an amateur, regional league during this season. No evidence of meeting WP:GNG has been presented by the article's creator. Long-term AfD consensus on Wikipedia has always been that we do not have articles on seasons at this level unless there is clear evidence of significant coverage. Even if something noteworthy did happen this season, it could easily be summarised at FC Chernihiv instead, an article that currently has almost no meaningful prose. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:28, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vladyslav Panko

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Played only 5 minutes of football in the second tier of Ukraine before disappearing. None of the references come close to meeting WP:GNG. The best source found in my own searches was Cheline, a routine contract announcement, most of which is copied from his club's Facebook page. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. K. Dakshinamoorthy Sthapati

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Article does not appear to meet WP:GNG for WP:BIO on WP:ARCHITECT. I noted that the article mentions awards and projects but these lack independent and reliable coverage (WP:RS). Most sources cited are primary or fail to provide in-depth analysis. Also, the tone of the article appears promotional (WP:PROMO), contrary to WP:NPOV. Nxcrypto Message 11:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Denis Bališ

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He only played one professional match for Spartak Trnava before disappearing over ten years ago. News sources from my search motivated him from being the son of a former footballer, falling under WP:NOTINHERITED. The articles of his football relatives (father Igor and brother Boris) also have not provided significant coverage since those were created, so if there is no consensus, I would suggest either "redirect to Igor Bališ" or "delete". ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Giorgi Parpalia

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No indication of meeting WP:GNG. He played 1 match in the second tier league, the Ukrainian First League, before spending the rest of his career in the second tier of Georgia. Searches in Ukrainian (Гіоргі Парпалія) and Georgian (გიორგი ფარპალია) failed to yield anything significant, which is unsurprising as he barely had a professional career. All I could find was coverage on similarly-named players, like Giorgi Papava and Giorgi Kvilitaia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

250 (number)

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Compared to the standards at Wikipedia:Notability (numbers), info in the article seems somewhat trivial. -- Beland (talk) 11:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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270 (number)

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Compared to the standards at Wikipedia:Notability (numbers), info in the article seems somewhat trivial. -- Beland (talk) 11:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tobi Asehinde

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All the sources fail WP:GNG and cannot establish WP:SIGCOV of the subject. They are either puff piece, our story section, no single mention or or pass mentioned sources. Ibjaja055 (talk) 11:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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1701 (number)

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Info in the article seems a bit trivial. -- Beland (talk) 11:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Compared to the standards at Wikipedia:Notability (numbers), that is. -- Beland (talk) 11:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

213 (number)

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Not sure anything in the article establishes that this is an interesting number based on the linked guideline. -- Beland (talk) 11:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Meets criteria 1 and 3 of the guideline. Peter James (talk) 11:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TACTIC (web framework)

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Seems to have been created by IP editors for promotional purposes. Tagged for notability. -- Beland (talk) 10:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Butt-Head

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Like Beavis, this article has no WP:SIGCOV at all per WP:BEFORE. Most of the sources talked about the film Beavis and Butt-Head, instead of the characters. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 10:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Georg C. F. Greve

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Tagged for notability for over 4 years, seems to have been (self?) created for promotional purposes. -- Beland (talk) 10:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Colt MARS

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Tagged for notability for over a decade. -- Beland (talk) 10:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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.375 Winchester

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Tagged for notability for almost 2 years. -- Beland (talk) 10:31, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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.56-56 Spencer

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Tagged for notability, thin on sources since 2013. -- Beland (talk) 10:31, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep We should not delete on the absence of citations in one version of the article, but as to whether such sources exist or not. Although clearly a dead-end in firearms design, the Spencer rifle and its cartridge was historically important as (arguably, given that this is a firearms topic) the first self-contained metallic cartridge for a repeating rifle. Even with such argument as to whether the Henry or the Spencer came first, and what the definition of 'first' is as to workability, this was clearly an important weapon and thousands of them were used in the Civil War. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

.22 BR Remington

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Tagged for notability, thin on sources. -- Beland (talk) 10:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum

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Tagged for notability, sounds a bit promotional. -- Beland (talk) 10:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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.32 Remington

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Tagged for notability for a year. -- Beland (talk) 10:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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.25 Winchester Super Short Magnum

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Tagged for notability for 2 years. -- Beland (talk) 10:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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.348 Winchester

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Tagged for notability for 2.5 years. -- Beland (talk) 10:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nese Server 2008 R2

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Appears to fail WP:GNG and WP:PRODUCT according to my searches. The creator also seems to have some sort of WP:COI with NeseOS Corporation. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Seems to be a non-notable software project, couldn't find any evidence of notability or meaningful secondary coverage. MCE89 (talk) 10:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable, no sources found. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Théo Emmanuelli

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Fails WP:GNG. Player made one five-minute Ligue 2 appearance in 2021. I found some coverage here, transfer coverage here, and here, but no real significant coverage. Player just transferred to fourth-division side Granville at age 24. Paul Vaurie (talk) 09:55, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

English Australia

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This article is supposedly about an industry association for English language schools in Australia, but contains almost no information about the actual association. Instead, almost the entire article reads as an unsourced advert/guide for how to apply to English language courses in Australia. I wasn't able to find anything to suggest that the organisation itself would meet WP:GNG - their media releases are sometimes quoted in specialist publications, but there doesn't seem to be any secondary SIGCOV. The title could potentially be turned into a redirect for either English Australians or Australian English? MCE89 (talk) 09:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pickled Egg Records

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created by mistake, meaning to comment on for user Jonpatterns (talk) 09:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete per WP:G7 Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. Tagged as G7. @Jonpatterns: Please note that you can tag any article that you create under this speedy criterion without needing to bring it to AfD. CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Faris Al-Hammadi

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The subject does not meet WP:GNG. The article fails to demonstrate any proof of notability and relies heavily on sources from social media platforms such as X, Instagram, and LinkedIn, which are generally not considered reliable. The few non-social media sources included are either trivial mentions or lack the depth and significance required to establish notability.

Based on my research, and after conducting a WP:BEFORE, I could not find independent, reliable sources that provide in-depth coverage of the subject. While the individual is a social media influencer with a large following, this alone does not suffice to meet Wikipedia's notability standards. ZyphorianNexus (talk) 08:33, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:ANYBIO / WP:CREATIVE). Available sources fail to support WP:V. QEnigma talk 13:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The current sourcing by the author is a major issue, but the subject seems to have relevant prominence with 750k+ followers. Per WP:BEFORE, subject also appears to be related to Hussain Al Hammadi and other UAE gov operatives. OrebroVi (talk) 16:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to point out that, per WP:INVALIDBIO, notability is not inherited. A subject's relationship with notable individuals or entities doesn't automatically make them notable. According to the notability guideline, notability is determined by significant, independent, and reliable coverage of the subject, not follower counts.

If you or another editor can provide reliable sources showing significant coverage, the article may be reconsidered. ZyphorianNexus (talk) 23:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Development Agency (Turkey)

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I found the source in the Turkish article at https://www.sbb.gov.tr/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Kalkinma-Ajanslarinin-Turk-Hukuk-Sistemindeki-Yeri-Ahmet-Tamer.pdf but I think it needs someone more familiar with the subject to figure out whether this is notable. At least one agency still exists https://ankaraka.org.tr/en But are they just window-dressing for development policies which are now top-down? As the Ministry of Development (Turkey) no longer exists how do they work and who controls them? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Akkad Bakkad Bambey Bo

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This page was BLARed in October 2023, and now a duplicate article was created at Draft:Akkad Bakkad Bambey Bo (Tv Show), which I moved to draft because of the duplication. Both pages should be merged if kept. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - per WP:NTVNATL and merge as proposed by the nom. Deriannt (talk) 18:03, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vabbing

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Two years marked for notability. Flash-in-the-pan? Qwirkle (talk) 06:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Article needs expansion but it has received a good range of coverage ([3] [4] [5] [6]) and even been the subject of a systematic review (empty, with no evidence to support it). Astaire (talk) 19:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Still getting coverage in 2024 [7], showing an extended period of critical notice. This as well [8].... But why, seriously, why? Oaktree b (talk) 00:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Istanbul Professional League 1

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Tagged almost a decade ago as unsourced and article does not exist in Turkish so probably not notable Chidgk1 (talk) 07:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to History of Turkish football as possible search term. Giant Snowman 11:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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St. Henry District High School

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Vintage article from when schools had a free pass. This is a non notable school. Fails WP:NORG. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bourbon County Schools

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Disputed draftification. WP:DRAFTOBJECT prevents unilateral return to Draft, so we are at AfD. Schools and school districts are no longer inherently notable. Fails WP:NORG as presented here. Suggesting Draftify pending further work. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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İzmir–Nazilli Regional

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Tagged over a decade ago as unsourced. Cites on Turkish article are all primary sources and don’t show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 07:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Silent Partner (album)

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Doesn't meet WP:NALBUM. The Dusted review is the only one I've seen covering this album significantly but the reliability of the website is unclear ([9]) and even if it's reliable, it's insufficient. Frost 07:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Please also note Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CarrionSeasoning. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 08:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Denis Kolesnikov

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Fails WP:BIO. Not seeing any demonstrated notability for this person. There is no significant coverage in reliable sources. Skazi (talk) 07:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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ML Lather

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The subject fails WP:NBIO, no significant coverage about him in sources. Being a former DGP does not make one inherently notable. - Ratnahastin (talk) 06:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Joelle Forte

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 06:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorcerer Supreme

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Non-notable role that lists every non-notable character to fill said role in the comics, or every time a character briefly took on the mantle. This role isn't individually notable of any of the actual significant characters who held the role as a major part of their characters, such as Strange or the Ancient One. News searches turned up WP:ROUTINE coverage of the role's various changes in the comics, WP:VALNET sources that don't contribute to notability, or summary style articles that only recap plot info. Scholar and Books yield a few hits that look promising at a glance, but the sources that mention the role are predominantly discussing Doctor Strange, with the role only being brought up as a significant part of his character. This role is not independently notable of Strange or any other character, and is better off redirected to Strange's article, given the bulk of coverage predominantly discusses the mantle in the form of Strange's usage of it. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 06:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Doctor Strange. I did some digging per WP:BEFORE, but this is the only good source so far [10]. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 10:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Franz Adolph of Anhalt-Bernburg-Schaumburg-Hoym

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Can't verify subject, may be a hoax or just not notable. Neither of the two alive sources are reliable and I can't comment on the third. All the search results are circular sites or other unreliable sources.

I found some German sources but I can't evaluate them: [11] [12] Traumnovelle (talk) 06:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted‎ by DoubleGrazing per criterion A7. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

YBSPoloBabyy

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This page appears to be an autobiography (created by User:YBSPoloBabyy (talk)), contains no sources and does not meet notability standards. Cyrobyte (talk) 05:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Fails WP:GNG per a quick Google. Snowycats (talk) 06:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Araba 2004

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Does not meet WP:NSINGLE. Unreferenced. -Samoht27 (talk) 05:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep: Appears to satisfy WP:GNG as the music video was a subject of scholarly analysis by multiple authors: [13] [14]. I can't find anything beyond these two authors though. The two authors both appear in the first source, but I don't think it stops the sources from being independent of each other. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 09:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge with Mustafa Sandal or Mustafa Sandal discography: not convinced a separate article is necessary Rainydaywindows (talk) 07:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2006 Westchester County tornado

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Wow, I've never AfD'd an FA before. Anyways, this tornado is not notable as there was no coverage past a few days after the event, with one mention three months after the event, too low for a tornado in my opinion. Fails my criteria as well. If this article were to be made today, I'm 100% sure it would no longer exist. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:NEVENT and there is no WP:LASTING coverage. It's rarity, much like its rating, means absolutely nothing if no sources consistently talk about. Notability concerns were also brought up during the FAC, so I'm not sure how it passed. E_F⁵ 04:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. It got a lot of coverage at the time of the event and still gets mentioned as a notable NY State/Northeast tornado after many years (for example, here, here, here, here, and here). Plus, this isn't a crappily written stub, it's an FA, so there's some readable text there (though it looks like it needs some updatilng), and if it's even a close call, I'd rather preserve the content. Plus, all the reviewers at FAC (and GA and any peer review) must have thought that it was notable. -- Ssilvers (talk) 08:53, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't consider any of those sources WP:INDEPTH. An article's class has little to do with it's notability in this case; the article was FACed in 2008 and standards... weren't as high back then. Was going to take it to FAR but realized it likely isn't even notable. This isn't the first time a tornado GA/FA has been at a delete/merge venue, see this discussion which almost ended with a GA being merged. E_F⁵ 13:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom – Whilst the article is an FA, most of the coverage occurred during the initial aftermath of the tornado, with none of the sources presented above, or those from a search, including continued significant or in-depth coverage of the event. Optionally, a merge to Tornadoes of 2006#July 11–12 is a possibility. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete - Although some news coverage still exists, it is mostly in the form of "tornadoes in New York are rare" or something along that line, and not much about the actual tornado.

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Delete no lasting significant coverage. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Jazirah Aviation crash

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Unnotable aviation accident. Although a tragic one, this is a routine accident. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 04:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. WP:RUNOFTHEMILL general aviation accident. Tragic, but WP:NOTMEMORIAL. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Sufficiently covered at Al Jazeirah Airport, no issue with merging any information here to that article before deletion (but there really is too much detail here per concerns above re: WP:NOTMEMORIAL. I'd have voted redirect as an ATD, but really can't see why anyone would search '2024 Jazirah Aviation Crash'... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 11:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shields, Accomack County, Virginia

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I've been PRODding my most recent batch of Virginia ones, but taking this one to AFD as I'm less confident here. Whitelaw's county history has references to the index to "Shield's P.O." and "Shield's Wharf", but unfortunately the volume those are in is not on Internet Archive. Those items are mentioned only on one page. Nothing in the Arcadia history of the county. Searching on newspapers.com is very difficult due to search engine noise, but I'm just getting passing references to surnames, the wharf, and a steamship landing that is probably the wharf. I don't see a WP:GNG or WP:GEOLAND pass here, and substantive sourcing will be needed here especially given the vague name. Hog Farm _Talk 04:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2023–24 Moldovan Youth League

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Youth football season with no indication of notability. Pretty much every yearly edition of this article is sourced only to primary sources. I don't see a possible redirect target, either, as no article for the youth league itself exists. JTtheOG (talk) 03:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, such stub articles are notable. The winner of this competition qualifies to Uefa competition, such articles exists also for Spain , England U18 level,and few more countries. However I completely agree, there is not enough sources, adding seconfpdary sources will be great. Kolya77 (talk) 05:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What exists in other countries is not really relevant to the notability of this article. Are you able to provide any examples of in-depth coverage from independent sources? JTtheOG (talk) 06:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maya Kornberg

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Previously nominated for proposed deletion by a different editor, but was contested on Talk:Maya Kornberg. The article generally lacks verifiable third-party sources and relies heavily on professional pages as well subject's own personal page. Per WP:Notability, candidates for political office are not inherently notable. Nearly all the sources I could find on Kornberg which may be used to improve the page exclusively focus on her council candidacy and the page was only created following her announcement. Her professional career working in NGOs does not appear notable enough for an article. Because of this, I nominate the article for deletion due to a lack of notability and agree with previous attempt under Wikipedia:Proposed deletion. --Stanloona2020 (talk) 02:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Passes WP:BASIC even without the political candidacy, with coverage such as the independent review for her book Inside Congressional Committees (Columbia University Press, 2023) in the academic journal Congress & the Presidency and the 2010 article about her environmental activism in the Jerusalem Post. She is also quoted frequently in the national media in the U.S. as an expert on Congress and elections. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep : The subject looks notable with independent coverages. Gauravs 51 (talk)

New Jersey Transit Kearny Point Garage

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Redirect to NJ Transit Bus Operations#Divisions, facilities, and operators. Fails WP:GNG as I am unable to find any WP:SIGCOV of this bus depot. JTtheOG (talk) 03:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per nom. Of the 5 sources, one is a non-RS wiki, one from the operator, and three don't even mention the subject. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to NJ Transit Bus Operations#Divisions, facilities, and operators. Djflem (talk) 07:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sex, Love, Misery: New New York

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Does not meet WP:NFILM, the only mentions of this film are a handful of online reviews from smaller websites. This film has generally positive reviews but isn't otherwise notable. Many editors have tried to improve the article but there isn't much to work with outside those reviews. See Talk page where this was discussed. Blue Sonnet (talk) 02:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: per the significant coverage in reliable/[generally-accepted] sources. -Mushy Yank. 04:53, 28 December 2024 (UTC) [Edited; see below and TP][reply]
Keep This is a relatively low budget independent documentary film, but that does not mean that it is not notable. Rotten Tomatoes is considered a reliable source for review aggregation, per WP:ROTTENTOMATOES, although not every review that is aggregated is automatically presumed to be reliable. In this case, the film has seven reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, all of them generally positive though not overwhelmingly positive. Four reviews are currently used as references in the article. Those four sources, Film Carnage, Film Threat, High on Films and GhMovieFreak are already used extensively as references in many existing film articles. If it is argued and agreed that those sites are not reliable in this article, then it will be necessary to edit hundreds of film articles to remove references to those sources and the content they support. Is the nominator willing to take on that task? A complicating factor in this case is that the article was created by a highly problematic editor who has since been indefintely blocked. However, other editors in good standing have contributed to the article, and we should not delete articles about notable topics just because they were originally written by editors who have later been blocked. That can be perceived as vindictive. The article was Prodded twice but only one prod per article is allowed. I deprodded it. In conclusion, I believe that the best course of action is to keep this article. Cullen328 (talk) 05:16, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Actually, there are 5 reviews cited. -Mushy Yank. 06:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the fifth review just added as a reference is from BWRC which is also widely cited as a reliable source in film articles. Cullen328 (talk) 07:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But Jovanmillic97 removed one, so we are back to 4...For the record, unless we are dealing with a BLP and a potentially libelous source, I disapprove the bold removal of content when a page is being discussed, especially when it’s sourced and sources are, precisely, the main point being discussed. -Mushy Yank. 13:41, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cullen328 The "sources are already used extensively in many articles" or that it's a big hassle to edit them all out arguments are very, very thin and neither are based in any Wikipedia guideline or policy. Just a cursory search on the first one (Film Carnage) reveals that it's a blog by some Rebecca (film fan with no journalistic credits or anything) reviewing indie films. Is that what are we calling "reliable" nowadays? Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even if you do not count the reviews from the three sites mentioned below, including the one you mention, 5-3=2, which is the threshold commonly accepted for the number of reviews necessary for a film, and that is based on NFILM and/or GNG. -Mushy Yank. 13:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should be wary of reviews from Film Carnage, High on Films, and GhMovieFreak. There are a lot of film articles out there that are under the radar, while articles for mainstream films get a lot of attention. So it's always possible that these proliferated inappropriately and may be propping up other articles falsely. As it has been said, "other stuff exists". We have to remember that at the end of the day, Rotten Tomatoes is a commercial website, so it is financially interested in collating all possible reviews for any film. It's basically like IMDb's External reviews page. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies as I didn't notice the first PROD.

I came across this article due to the blocked editor, but I didn't want that to be used as a reason for deletion so deliberately didn't mention it here. If the consensus is "keep" then I'm more than happy to tidy up the review section, although I'm not sure how to beef up/expand the remainder since the bulk of the article is the review section - that was one of my concerns during the TP discussion with @Axad12 on what to do next (this is where AFD came up).

I'll gladly accept & seek out any tips or recommendations on how best to proceed with that endeavour if the article stays, so every post here is really helpful in that respect! Blue Sonnet (talk) 19:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ Keep: Sourcing available in the article itself meets NFILM. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question Reading Beans, did you mean to say "Keep"? Cullen328 (talk) 05:33, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I’ll change it now. I definitely misclicked. Thank you for letting me know. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete because of the set of reviews for this film, only one is a reliable source: Film Threat. The other reviews are not reliable sources. Being used for the Rotten Tomatoes score does not mean anything since RT is a commercial website that will collate everything possible. It's like a film having an IMDb page with a list of external reviews available. If many Wikipedia articles are citing these reviews, that's a big problem. It could be more people like the editor who made this, or editors who thought they can just use any review listed at RT, regardless of reliability. Of course, I work mainly with mainstream film articles, so if there is a WP:RS case to be made for these reviews, go ahead and make it. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:20, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but what makes you say BRWC is not reliable? -Mushy Yank. 13:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at About Us, I do not see the people involved as having beyond-the-website credentials to be "authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject" per WP:SOURCEDEF. In the footer, it proclaims itself as "a blog about films". If it is a blog, it can only be acceptable per WP:SPS, "Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications." Google Books here seems to show only one book that has ever referenced BRWC. I don't see anything in Google Scholar either. What is your take? Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It’s technically a blog but not in the sense of a personal blog and they have a limited team of contibutors not just whoever wants to write there; they exist since 2008, so they might be considered OK, I guess. And the author of the review seems to have wrtitten a lot of reviews that look Okaysih in terms of quality. GhMovieFreak is a bit of the same, it’s not user-generated. If there was a list like Lists of films about the COVID-19 pandemic, I’d say redirect but there does not seem to be one. And with the Film Threat review, that’s generally reliable, i feel it would be unfair to delete this. -Mushy Yank. 23:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The page seems lacking in its actual state. The Reception section, which currently is the only section with more than 2 lines of text, has partial and redundant content. Did at least one of the contributors even watch the documentary? Bit-Pasta (talk) 17:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I do think at least one did. -Mushy Yank. 00:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. As per Erik above. Axad12 (talk) 06:20, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I will say that personally, I see BRWC as a RS as long as it's a non-paid article. However I'm aware that overall the sourcing here isn't the strongest. So what I'm suggesting here isn't that we keep this article but rather than we create an article for the director. She's put out some other films that have received reviews from places like The Hollywood Reporter, Cinema Crazed (typically seen as reliable on here), and Film Journal International. There appears to be enough sourcing to justify creating an article for her - we can have a section on her film career so it's not just a list of films and links to reviews. That could be a good compromise here. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 15:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Shannon Alexander. It's not the biggest or best article I've ever done on a director, but I think there's enough to justify him passing notability. This also gives a good compromise: we can redirect this article to the director's page. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 16:00, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot. The suggested redirect and possible merge can be a good compromise. Best wishes. -Mushy Yank. 04:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are we sure that the newly created article on Alexander passes GNG? It looks to me that there is a shortage of decent coverage about Alexander - just a single interview and a collection of film reviews (i.e. not actually sources about the director himself). I think it would be a good idea if somebody nominated the Shannon Alexander article to AfD to test this in practice.

It doesn't seem a very good idea to recommend a redirect when the redirect article suffers from exactly the same problem as the article which is the subject of this AfD. Axad12 (talk) 16:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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New Jersey Transit Greenville Garage

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Redirect to NJ Transit Bus Operations#Divisions, facilities, and operators. Article was moved back to the mainspace without showing the slightest indication of notability. The only sources are a user-generated site and a PDF of a bus schedule. JTtheOG (talk) 03:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per nom. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to NJ Transit Bus Operations#Divisions, facilities, and operators. Djflem (talk) 07:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Geoff Tabin

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Does not appear to meet WP:NPROF. Fairweather Foundation is a small non-notable foundation. Risker (talk) 03:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't see how Fairweather Foundation is relevant to Geoff Tabin's notability. It is just the funding source of his current chair position, which seems relatively minor when compared to other things that make him notable such as him co-founding the Himalayan Cataract Project (the other founder has a page), being the fourth person to reach the top of the seven summits, and helping invent bungee jumping.

I believe Geoff is very notable based on the guidelines I have read. Beyond what I said above, there is a book about him and Sanduk (second suns), he himself is a published author, and there are articles written about him in magazines such as national geographic (ie https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/restoring-vision-for-south-sudan-dispatches-from-the-duk-lost-boys-clinic). Moreover, he was on the cover for the now defunct National Geographic Adventure magazine, who's Wikipedia page uses his image!

If there are other ways in which the article fails to pass notability thresholds, please let me know what I am missing, but again, I think the Fairweather Foundation is totally irrelevent. CallipygianConnoisseur (talk) 08:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding on to this, using the news button ont the nominated for deletion box shows articles about Dr. Tabin from CBS, The Economist, and Outside magazine. CallipygianConnoisseur (talk) 08:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I find I cannot agree with the nomination. Subject appears to have a named chair at a major institution, and evidently has had substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity per [15]. ResonantDis_tortion 09:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Health Dynamics Inventory

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Non-notable medical tool. The inventors of this procedure appear to have copy-pasted promotional material onto Wikipedia, and even left their contact information at the bottom. It remains without secondary sourcing 14 years later. All the sigcov listed is self-published by the authors. Jdcooper (talk) 02:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I found several PhD theses on ProQuest that use the Health Dynamics Inventory, but I can't find any independent journal articles that use it. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 06:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I didn't find any secondary coverage on google scholar. I think WP:TNT applies even in the case that a wikipedia article could be written.--Rolluik (talk) 01:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: An article about an assessment framework which is still marketed. The article makes various but has always lacked more than lists of papers by the framework's creators. RHaworth's 2010 PROD on grounds of " no evidence of notability" was deleted without comment or improvement by an IP. Searches find sporadic mentions, such as this presentation which mentions "Lack of research" as the first limitation. Particularly in medical areas, it is not appropriate to maintain articles lacking reliable references to demonstrate notability. AllyD (talk) 14:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of music and dance anime

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I'm not an expert with the Anime WP, but the term "music and dance anime" seems not to satisfy WP:NLIST: it's not a specific category on the wiki, the self-imposed criteria of not contain[ing] strictly idol anime, OVAs and ONAs but may contain anime that use idol setting or themes as part of a bigger plot would seem to be so vague and indefinite as to make the list difficult to populate or understand what makes an entry eligible. There is also no sourcing to support list entries. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 02:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep but rename to List of musical anime I'll try to fix and redefine it. WP:TNT is also an option . Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 07:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With respect, the two options you've presented are polar opposites. Just clarifying - do you think the list as currently drafted can satisfy WP:NLIST? ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 07:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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"the self-imposed criteria of not contain[ing] strictly idol anime, OVAs and ONAs but may contain...", the autor of the article here, is because there already is a list of idol anime and manga so there is no need to duplicate things. Also majority of people are not into both, they are either into idol things or are not. You could divide music anime/manga genres into two broad subgenres: idol subgenre and non-idol subgenre. There are examples for "not strictly idol, but uses idol setting as part of a bigger plot": Heroines Run the Show: The Unpopular Girl and the Secret Task. A girl works for an idol and in idol setting but the story is not about being an idol or becoming an idol. The other is Key the Metal Idol. Also in idol setting but there is a conspiracy behind the curtain and existential crisis of a robot - now compare it to run of the mill idol stories like Pretty Rhythm or D4DJ. There is also anime like Samurai Jam -Bakumatsu Rock-, Hypnosis Mic: Division Rap Battle Rhyme Anima and Paradox Live the Animation for which you could say are idol stories because of the characters but the story is not about being an idol. I don't think it's vague. It's just a question of is there a story about sth other than being (becoming) an idol in the story.
You stated "Inexplicably it also looks like the list contains manga as well." It does NOT. You should't misguide people and not provide examples. Everything on the list is/has an anime/OVA/ONA, but the "problem" is that not many anime have their own articles or (anime-)links redirect to a manga page. It would be ridiculous to expect than a 1 ep OVA has an article. I tried to have as many blue links as posssible so it's possible there are links to a manga but it DOES have anime/OVA/ONA.
There is "dance" in the name of the article because there are anime that revolve around dance, rather than just singing and playing instruments, namely Hula Fulla Dance, Brave Beats and Tribe Cool Crew.
"no sourcing" - not sth that cannot be done after the fact and there is a reason for that. not justification, but for majority of entries there is a blue link to the main article that has all the sourcing you can get so it's not sth I pulled out of my ass. I choose not to source, primarily, because I knew there were bound to be dense people, I was right, and there is likelihood for the article to be deleted, so potentially not to lose extra time I made that decision. A list like this, and this is quite a comprehensive list, takes quite a bit of time to make, more than you could guess. Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 23:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I have omitted the misleading statement in the nomination. I appreciate the time it's taken to create this. WP:NLIST and WP:SALAT is a concern because the list is manually assembled and has an unclear scope. When looking at pages like List of idol anime and manga you can see there's a sourced background and exploration of its scope. Without that here, it's hard to reliably figure out what qualifies an entry for the list other than loosely having a music and/or dance focus. The idol point is a concern because it would be quite WP:ARBITRARY to consider what goes in and out of this article based on an editor's subjective assessment of how much the anime involves an idol plot. That's why external sourcing about this as a clear genre or category is important. Others may consider that this is a very clear and established genre category and if so that's ok and all that needs to be done is better support this in the article. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 00:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per Miminity. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 09:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Banaras Flyover

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Does not meet WP:GNG as well as WP:NGEO. Article needs a rewrite as well. TNM101 (chat) 15:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The article is terribly written, I wholeheartedly agree, but I don't believe this is a candidate for WP:TNT. A quick google search (in English only) pulls up enough results to meet WP:GNG. I'm sure there's much more in Urdu. Also, I think it may have also been named the Varanasi Flyover at one point? Angryapathy (talk) 15:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, I didn't mean the reason for the nom was its poor writing, it was actually about it not meeting notability criteria. Although if there are reliable sources, I may as well withdraw the nom TNM101 (chat) 17:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not the Varanasi Flyover. The lack of details in the initial description may have led to confusion, making it seem poorly written. However, the actual information we gathered through a detailed survey was perceived as promotional by some individuals, which may have added to the misunderstanding.Abdulmuqtaddirkhan (talk) 17:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)Abdul Muqtaddir Khan[reply]

Delete. I don't see enough in the way of independent sources to regard it as notable -- as far as I can see references 6 to 9 are the same, accounting for almost half of all the references. Why should any flyover be regarded as notable? Only if something important happened on it. As it happens the city where I live (Marseilles, France) has a flyover about 3 km in length, the avenue Alexandre Fleming, over the district of Belle de Mai, and it's not the only one, but I'd be very surprised if anyone wanted Wikipedia articles about them. Athel cb (talk) 17:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah but that's not made due to the rapes and the killings in Qasba_Aligarh_massacre Abdulmuqtaddirkhan (talk) 17:56, 27 December 2024 (UTC)AbdulMuqtaddirKhan[reply]
Keep The sources currently in the article and even more in a BEFORE search do demonstrate it passes WP:GNG as a major infrastructure project, though it does need a rewrite. SportingFlyer T·C 01:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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IREDES

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Orphaned artcile without any verification of notability. Website is defunct, no evidence this is a notable standard, if even ever used. ZimZalaBim ^talk 16:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Article is promotional in tone about a nonprofit, and has been unsourced since its 2008 creation. Search turns up no independent coverage of subject. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 17:30, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Some coverage in Gscholar mining journals [16] or [17] were the first two I pulled up. Oaktree b (talk) 22:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This as well is about the "thing" [18] Oaktree b (talk) 22:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All seem like just passing mention, not any significant coverage or engagement. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 17:25, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I can't find significant coverage for this. It exists/existed, but fails WP:N. Angryapathy (talk) 16:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A search on Google news and Google scholar shows the standard is in use by multiple equipment and mining companies, and the website is live. It turns up in a mining glossary, and is mentioned in articles about mining robotics and smart mining. We have few articles about tools for data capture or analysis because it is hard to find independent in-depth information about them; even harder for a tool such as this used in industry rather than academics. It would not be an orphan if we had articles about some of the current modern methods in mining. StarryGrandma (talk) 06:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We don’t keep articles on the basis of trivial mentions or appearances in directories. Please read WP: GNG. HyperAccelerated (talk) 05:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I found no WP:SIGCOV in any sources. Tgvarrt (talk) 22:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I Want to Live (2015 film)

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The film doesn't seem to have notability. NameGame (talk) 19:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Kurdish cinema: or to the director if his page his kept. Not opposed to Keep if others find the film meets WP:NFIC as a production from Kurdistan. -Mushy Yank. 00:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: meets NFF with the coverage about production; filming, citation and link for review and news about the film verified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hendrea44 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:20, 29 December 2024 (UTC) [reply]
Merge per Mushy Yank. If by some chance the director's article survives, I suppose it can be redirected there. Offhand I do vaguely remember hearing about this film but I can't remember the context. In any case, I did a search in English and Kurdish (via Google Translate). There really is almost nothing out there for this film - there was even less in Kurdish than there was in English. What I could find didn't really make me think that there was more. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:56, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of note - I accidentally put this on the director's AfD page. I was going to strike it, but decided to just remove it in order to avoid confusion given the large amount of sockpuppets that are plaguing that AfD. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:57, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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First United Methodist Church (Midland, Texas)

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This congregation has apparently been around a long time but I cannot find any evidence for its notability other than being the site of the Bush marriage, which really doesn't cut it. Mangoe (talk) 21:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Per WP:NCHURCH, individual congregations may be evaluated on GNG, which this one pass with SIGCOV in the Midland Reporter-Telegram ([19], [20]) plus the coverage in various George W and Laura Bush biographies. (Once this AfD is over, the page should be moved to reflect that it is no longer United Methodist.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep as per the reliable sources coverage identified above, weak because its only one publication leaving aside the Bush bios, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Karnaval (song)

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Karnaval is not in and of itself more notable than any of the 29 other FiK 63 losers. Its article consists of: some basic information about the release, identical to that of other FiK entries that were commercially released; a short review section, using only one source that reviews many non-notable songs; information about Festivali i Këngës, which could equally apply to any other FiK entry; credits and personnel, track listing and release history, which are not independently notable. This *could* count as a reasonably detailed article but not more so than that of many other entries that are not given articles because it's understood that they are not notable. It hasn't been ranked on a chart, it hasn't won an award (second place is not an award, otherwise I'd like to see an article for Evita which actually won FiK), it hasn't been independently released by several notable artists, etc. Maybe deserving of an article had it won FiK and progressed to Eurovision, but it didn't. Toffeenix (talk) 02:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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MyPhone myA18

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No evidence of notability for this smartphone. I found pieces like this and this, but I think we would need a lot better sourcing to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 02:24, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep these 2 links should always be the same, but google search always finding me for shopping JGBlue1509 (talk) 06:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand your argument. JTtheOG (talk) 06:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Redirect to MyPhone per WP:ATD-R. Unnotable smartphone model. Most of the sources you can find online are from tech blogs. AstrooKai (Talk) 08:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect/Merge. this is not reliable, so it will be merged or redirected to the article MyPhone @AstrooKai JGBlue1509 (talk) 09:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, I will change my verdict. AstrooKai (Talk) 09:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New Jersey Transit Big Tree Garage

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Article was twice moved to the mainspace without showing the slightest indication of notability. The only sources cited are a user-generated wiki. JTtheOG (talk) 02:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to NJ Transit Bus Operations#Divisions, facilities, and operators - I can't find any significant coverage in independent sources. (It's also arguably a copyvio of the CPTDB wiki.) Same goes for New Jersey Transit Kearny Point Garage. The related Category:NJ Transit Bus Garages and Template:NJ Transit Bus Garages And Yards should be deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve nominated the other two similar depot articles. JTtheOG (talk) 04:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to NJ Transit Bus Operations#Divisions, facilities, and operators. Djflem (talk) 07:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tulika Mehrotra

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Do not pass WP:AUTHOR or even WP:BASIC ― ☪ Kapudan Pasha (🧾 - 💬) 18:18, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I've added a book review from Vogue India and an article from The Hindu on her books. Not too familiar with the English-language media landscape throughout India, but I think there's a good chance there is sufficient coverage that would make this pass WP:NAUTHOR (e.g., book reviews), especially considering the books were published by Penguin (one of the Big Five publishers). Bridget (talk) 01:35, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bridget Thank you for your efforts. I also conducted a search for relevant sources initially, but I did not find them to meet the notability criteria. Both sources are primarily interview-based descriptions. The piece in Vogue India is a one-time article by Ridhima Sud, and the The Hindu article also revolves around an interview. Neither of these, on their own, can establish notability. While publishing with Penguin is a significant accomplishment, it alone does not satisfy the notability requirements according to Wikipedia's standards. ― ☪ Kapudan Pasha (🧾 - 💬) 15:10, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:AUTHOR, interviews are not RS. Deriannt (talk) 19:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the interview / article format and whether or not the article contains facts vetted by a reliable source and observations that were independent of the subject. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I've added a reference for her job (chief digital officer) and her marriage. I doubt they will make much difference. I'm not casting a vote on this one. Knitsey (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. This article is starting to look a lot better than when it was first nominated. Is anyone able to access the Business India article (or provide an archived link to it? Cielquiparle (talk) 09:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Daily Dunya

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This article is about the company that owns Daily Dunya, this is a directory reference, and this is a mention. Lacks direct and in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 23:43, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This subject does not seem notable. Fails WP:GNG. Mysecretgarden (talk) 20:22, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It's a member of the All Pakistan Newspapers Society (indicative, not determinative), and there's quite a lot of English-language analysis of its publications on GScholar[21]. From [22] found there, "The Urdu newspaper stories were extracted from the top five large circulation national dailies that is Daily Jang, Daily Dunya, Express, Daily Aaj, and Nawa-e-Waqt...". I presume that given the English language coverage evident that there would also be a level of coverage in Urdu. Its journalists have received awards[23][24] - reported on by unrelated sources. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 02:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was withdrawn‎. I am withdrawing this AFD. (non-admin closure) TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 03:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 California wildfires

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Unnecessary article that goes against WP:CRYSTALBALL. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 00:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Fires will likely start in less then six months from now, I see no point in deleting this, then recreating it in such a short time. Oaktree b (talk) 02:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Next Brandenburg state election

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While statute dictates the next state election must be before the end of 5 years, the date of this election is not set, and many variables could change the next election date. This leans toward WP:CRYSTAL. No objection to draftifying. Risker (talk) 00:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pep Love

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Questionable notoriety. Only one source which is an interview, therefore a primary source.. not enough to establish notoriety SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 00:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect: to the Hierophyphics article, seems to be only known in relation to that group. Oaktree b (talk) 02:02, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby Brown (footballer, born 1887)

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Stub article about a little known soccer player with only three sources that don't make him seem particularly noteworthy. I also did some digging outside and I still didn't find much about him. The helper5667 (talk) 00:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - ignorant nomination. This is a player who made 28 appearances in the English Football League, the premier competition at that time - and of course you're going to struggle to find online sources about someone born in 1887! Did you look in the Newspaper archives? Giant Snowman 10:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Not to be confused with the Bobby Brown's born in the 20th century. I'd be shocked if this player wasn't notable, as was playing in the top tier of English football in the 1907–08 season.[25] There would have been plenty of coverage from numerous sources at that time, difficult to find but would be easy to establish notability with the right sources given popularity of English football back then. CNC (talk) 10:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Whitney Awards

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After 15 years, this remains of borderline notability; pretty much all the sources are LDS-specific, and many of the references are not independent in any way. We're not quite in "coveted Silver Sow Award" territory; but close. Orange Mike | Talk 16:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: Lots of coverage in the Deseret News, and some in scholarly journals [26], and here, but this is more of a mention [27]. Oaktree b (talk) 02:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, all available sources such as Deseret News are LSD-affiliated (so "lots of coverage" over there do not count for notability). The journal link above is literally a sentence in a note. Nothing close to significant coverage in neutral secondary reliable sources. Cavarrone 08:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Institutionalist political economy

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This page largely duplicates the content of the Institutional Economics (IE) page. It states that Institutionalist political economy (IPE) builds upon institutional economics, but does not make clear how it does so. The only writers mentioned by name in the article are key institutionalist economists who already appear in the IE page: Veblen, Commons, Mitchell, etc. Even more significantly, the article does not provide clear evidence that IPE is an accepted term with a meaning that is distinct from IE. Among the cited references, only Ha-Joon Chang's 2002 article uses the phrase "Institutionalist Political Economy." The other articles seem to apply institutionalism in various senses to political economy, but do not establish a school of thought called "Institutionalist Political Economy." Googling "Institutionalist Political Economy" strengthens the sense that this is not an established school of thought: the first page results show a handful of articles by writers (especially Chang and Streeck) trying to claim the term in recent years, but no encyclopedia entries or news articles suggesting that their efforts have succeeded. Nor is it clear that Chang and Streeck are engaged in the same project or members of the same school. (Streeck 2010 does not even cite Chang 2002, for example.) Finally, to the extent that consistency across Wikipedia is a relevant consideration, I would note that I attempted to create a "Legal institutionalism" page about a year ago -- because there are, in fact, a number of writers who refer to themselves as "legal institutionalists" and who belong to a relatively coherent school of thought (Hodgson, Deakin, Pistor, etc.). A reviewer rejected the attempt. The reviewer's reasons would seem to apply even more strongly (or at least equally well) to the existing "Institutionalist political economy" than they did to the proposed "Legal institutionalism": "It's not clear to me that this is a coherent concept that really differs from Institutionalist political economy and Institutional economics. I understand that source #1 is trying to make that argument, but do the other sources? Some of the sources, such as #6 and #10, do not even contain the term legal institutionalism. And there are other sources that seem to use the term in a different way, as part of legal theory rather than economics." If a "Legal institutionalism" page is inappropriate, then a fortiori it seems as though an "Institutionalist political economy" page is inappropriate. RLHale (talk) 18:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marshall Savage

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This article on science fiction author Marshall Savage seems to fall short of WP's general notability guidelines (WP:GNG) for inclusion. To the extent that this author is notable, it is for his book, The Millennial Project which has its own WP article, and for founding the First Millennial Foundation, which is covered in the book's article. The body of this article is without references and is filled with minute autobiographical-type details. This article has had January 2024 {{BLP sources}} and {{original research}} tags for almost a year now. Dotyoyo (talk) 02:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge anything that can be sourced and is worth covering to The Millenial Project - couldn't find anything of substance that wasn't covering the book Iostn (talk) 20:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see anything worth merging into The Millenial Project, but others might find something worthy. The section called Writing career mentions an article he wrote, and a couple of incomplete projects he's worked on. But these are all unsourced and, IMO, non-notable. Dotyoyo (talk) 11:28, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to The Millennial Project (note the correct spelling is with two ns). Though the subject may be notable, the vast majority of the article is unsourced and I don't see any sourced content worth merging. If sources are found, the redirect can be reverted. Jfire (talk) 02:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Colette Kaminski

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Non-notable figure skater; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Subject does not appear to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only non-database source in the article is a student newspaper from the school the subject attended, and a search for additional sources came up empty. Please ping me if additional secondary sources can be found. Let'srun (talk) 17:46, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Some pretty good coverage here under her nickname. JTtheOG (talk) 21:39, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I had no idea,but theres already dictionary for the meaning and history in other website,should this be keep or delete?