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Hello, Trialpears, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

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Merging

A brief and informal thank-you from me for joining Wikiproject Merge, and helping to work on the backlog; your contributions are very welcome! Klbrain (talk) 06:55, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Been a joy helping you out! Trialpears (talk) 09:03, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
I've really appreciated your comments on the old merge proposals I have also engaged with. You're also really great on policy, which is quite a relief. I mostly agree with you, but I hope you don't mind when I sometimes don't. Always happy to discuss differences of opinion, as we've been doing on the relevant article talk pages. Klbrain (talk) 10:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for offering to help. I am trying to improve the page about Hayden Lockhart, ( an American POW from the Vietnam war ) and I keep messing up the references.

Is there a gadget or tool that helps clean up citations that are not done well? 

Toandael49 (talk) 01:03, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the barnstar! There are multiple tools to help with citations found here. The most convenient one of which probably is the automatic citations built into the ref button in the visual or 2017 wikitext editors where you can enter a URL, DOI or USBN and in most cases receive a mostly filled out citation. The other option I've used is the citation expander gadget which you can activate in preferences. After activating it you can press the "Expand citations" button in the tools section on the left side of the page. This tool goes through all citations on the page and suggest possible improvements, note that it currently doesn't perform the changes automatically. I hope that helps! Trialpears 18:47, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

sandboxes

Hi

I am not sure you should be taking upon yourself to decide what should and should not be in another users sandbox.Slatersteven (talk) 09:53, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

I’m sorry if that was inappropriate and will stop if you believe I should. The reason I was removing the merge templates were because they added the pages to the backlog category Category:Items to be merged, since they did not actually suggest a merger I believed they shouldn’t be in the category. The most common reasons for the tags to be there in the first place was either because the sandbox was a copy of an old version of another page at that time undergoing a merger. If that was the case I always checked to make sure the merger had been dealt with before removing, I should also have controlled that the page wasn’t actively edited, which I didn’t do.
The other major reason was users collecting useful templates in which case I replaced them with {{merge}} or similar. This retains the functionality of having the template easily accessible without adding it to the maintenance category.
I believe this is useful because the category contain many very old mergers, mostly from the Wikipedia: namespace, which haven't been dealt with in many years, partly because the category is full with articles, such as the ones I removed tags from, that are not supposed to be there. This makes it difficult to navigate and reduce the amount of users actually seeing the real merge requests. Trialpears (talk) 10:50, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Fair enough, but a polite message might have been better.Slatersteven (talk) 11:13, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Spillaholle/Frau Holle/Hulda merger

Hello Trialpears, I have finished the merger of Spillaholle and Hulda into Frau Holle (with Frau Holle and Hulda being proposed for merger even seperately from the whole Spillaholle discussion), albeit with the exception of their talk pages what I will still do later as dinner is now immnent. Greetings,--Tarchunes (talk) 15:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Looks great! Thank you for performing this old merger. Trialpears (talk) 18:23, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost

Thanks for fixing. I assume it's now displaying. I actually made the duplicate entry because I couldn't get it to display despite the diff being listed in the history. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Actually, it's still not displaying at: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Opinion. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:26, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

It's displaying for me, maybe try purging the cache? The link is in the text under the "discuss this story" heading or here. Hope it helps! Trialpears (talk) 21:00, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Re:Category:All articles to be split admin backlog

Hi Trialpears, thanks for your message on my talk page. The only reason I added the admin backlog on Category:All articles to be split is because of multiple articles needed to be split dated back to more than 5-7 years and it's very long time it didn't make an attention to other users. So that, I decided to add the backlog to requires attention to admins. I don't know if this is bad or not, but hope you'll understand about it. Thanks!!! Movies Time (talk) 03:45, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Infobox settlement

There is a lot to be improved with that box. I think language should be an extra parameter, or set of parameters and not be in demographics123. 77.183.70.51 (talk) 12:11, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Template:TTC station

You've closed the TFD backwards. The consensus was to delete/deprecate "TTC station" and use "TTC stations" going forward. Can you update the discussion: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_July_23#Template:TTC_station. BLAIXX 01:31, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Yep I messed up. I've now reversed it. --Trialpears (talk) 07:15, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For your work to clear Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Holding cell * Pppery * it has begun... 00:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! You're help with the modules is greatly appreciated as well! --Trialpears (talk) 07:17, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Nickname, Motto, Anthem, Elevation

Template_talk:Infobox_settlement#Additional_link_options_and_timezone_areas - would you move your edit request to "Nickname, Motto, Anthem, Elevation", so we get this one through first? TerraCyprus (talk) 19:16, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done --Trialpears (talk) 19:40, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Template editing right

Would you be interested in getting that right? I would support it. You seem to understand template code, are careful, do testing, react to requests on template talk pages. TerraCyprus (talk) 20:55, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

TerraCyprus I don't feel ready to be honest. Just yesterday I messed up quite badly with an edit request. I will reconsider in a few months but until then I'm just happy to get an extra pair of eyes looking at my changes so I don't do anything stupid. Thanks for asking though! --Trialpears (talk) 21:10, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
I understand. I think even if you have the right, part of the procedure should be kept, e.g. let people look at your sandbox code. But in cases where several people agree on a change, be it coded by you, or by someone else, then you could help activating it. OK, maybe around X-mas then. TerraCyprus (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

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Bots

I know you meant well, adding that line to my sandbox, but guess what I have been doing the last hour?
Luckily I now first copied everything before publishing, so I lost nothing.
I know that you meant well, but I must admit that an unspoken curse entered my mind!
:)
Keep up the good work!
--2019OutlaweD (talk) 21:12, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
2019OutlaweD Sorry for that! I have also had some unexpected bot behaiviour and it's always really annoying. Keep up the great work yourself though! --Trialpears (talk) 21:15, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Will do! :)
--2019OutlaweD (talk) 21:32, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the 50+ redirects

What I did when I implemented a short description for a template, I looked at the redirects and those with only a handful of uses I converted to the non-redirect version. This way I had only a handful of redirects in the code. This, to me, is a much better solution than adding code for a redirect that is used only twice. --Gonnym (talk) 11:50, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Wikipedia books

Please reverse your decision at Special:PermaLink/913520631#Suppress rendering of Template:Wikipedia books with immediate effect. The Book Creator front end is still functional and is essential for preparation of books for external services such as PediaPress print-on-demand and other rendering services such as MediaWiki2LaTeX. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 18:36, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Steelpillow, I've now reversed the close, per your concerns. I'm sorry for not looking if the book maker community had been properly notified before closing, something I ensure you will never happen again. --Trialpears (talk) 20:26, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

30 Kent Street, Millers Point

So, how's your conversation going with 60.242.114.209 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) about this? If you're going to revert my edits, I'd appreciate it if you'd take responsibility for following up on the matter. General Ization Talk 22:00, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

General Ization, I have posted a message on their talk page with venues where they could discuss the issue if they want to. I think they're concern are legitimate, but I don't know how the best way of handling it would be. I do not think reverting the report and giving a level 3 warning is the right thing to do for any good faith edit though; especially since custom on WP:EFFPR is to respond to all reports, even blatant vandalism. --Trialpears (talk) 20:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Image template question

Hello Trialpears, got a template question for you. Do you happen to know if there is any current template that would basically auto-purges my userpage? I would like to have the image on my main userpage change each time you visit it. TIA! -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:22, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

LuK3, I don't think there is any that auto purge and probably can't be due to technical limitations, but there are plenty with {{random slideshow}} and User:MusikAnimal/RandomImage being the two I'm familiar with. --Trialpears (talk) 17:16, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

PearBOT 3

Hi Trialpears, you must have seen that PearBOT 3 has been approved for trial. Thanks again for your interest in creating this. Please feel free to let me know if I can help in any way in the trial and testing. Arman (Talk) 13:34, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Armanaziz, I currently have some problems with tool forge, but hopefully will fix them tonight. I will set it to run once an hour and the trial should be completed 10 hours later. Sorry for the delay. --Trialpears (talk) 13:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
I've now started the trial, it should be going for 10 hours and could be fully approved tomorrow if I haven't messed up and we got some luck with BAG. --Trialpears (talk) 23:27, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
This is for your valuable efforts for contributing to Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 16:56, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! Always happy to help! --Trialpears (talk) 17:46, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

A token of appreciation

The Barnstar of Diligence
Appreciating your excellent work on Template Cache. Arman (Talk) 12:24, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! I think I've fixed most of the script errors in the portal space using it, but many large portals still have load times of 7+ seconds, which is quite annoying, so I'm considering deploying it more widely. --Trialpears (talk) 15:56, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
That would be fantastic! --Arman (Talk) 04:22, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Lua

Just saw your note at WP:TFD/H regarding {{Copied}}. I found the wikiversity course at v:Lua useful. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 17:56, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Cabayi Thanks! I'll take a look at it! I've found it a bit frustrating trying to learn it, but I guess everything will be more complex than learning python, which was the last time I went through this process. --Trialpears (talk) 20:47, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

WTA Tour reverts

Hello, yeah, your changes are right, but please change style and size of text inside table as it was before, cause it looks ugly now. --OVVL (talk) 23:02, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

OVVL, looks like Fyunck(click) have restored it due to concerns with the styles, with which I agree. I see no reason to have these tables styled differently from every other table on Wikipedia, including others in the same article. --Trialpears (talk) 20:17, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
It is really against MOS to have tiny text except in the top infobox. Yeah, their are exceptions like when a table is so wide that making the font 85% helps with width issues, or subtext within a table, but usually the standard font is adequate. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:24, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

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National Aerospace Laboratory

I removed the advertisement label because I don't see any promotional words in it. Therefore, I have disputed the claim. Emotioness Expression 09:11, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Emotioness Expression, I still think it has a problem with promotional language. As you can see in my recent edit removing promotional language from the organisation section. Talking about team synergy and custumer oriented approaches are promotional and there is similar concerns in the rest of the article. I have thus added back the tag. Feel free to look through it and remove it afterwards though! --Trialpears (talk) 09:30, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Automatic short descriptions

Hi Trialpears, letting you know the automatic short descriptions you added does not work for some schools such as Auckland Grammar School. If you could have a look that would be really good, you'll need to submit an edit request. Thanks Steven (Editor) (talk) 04:58, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Actually for that article above, it previously had the short description template which I removed for the automatic one, the template subpage is transcluded but not reflected in the short description and instead uses Wikidata Steven (Editor) (talk) 21:20, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Steven (Editor), the issue is with Module:Is infobox in lead which is used to garuantee short descriptions only are generated for articles whose primary topic a school, not places that happen to use infobox school as well. As well as checking if the template is in the lead it also checks if it's the only infobox in lead which in this case fails due to infobox mapframe being used in the linked article. I will update that module to fix it. --Trialpears (talk) 21:42, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
I see and if you can fix this that would be good as some schools have other infoboxes embedded such as Infobox NRHP. Steven (Editor) (talk) 22:05, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Steven (Editor), I have now also excluded all embeded templates in the sandbox and put in an edit request to fix Infobox NRHP's shortdescriptions being applied indiscrimnatley even when embeded. --Trialpears (talk) 22:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Awesome, btw the Infobox school sandbox has "School" displayed at the top Steven (Editor) (talk) 22:49, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Steven (Editor), just my debug version, have reverted. --Trialpears (talk) 23:03, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

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Muhandes, Thanks! Your feedback thought me a lot! --Trialpears (talk) 13:06, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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Pings

Hi Trialpears: I received your pings regarding the Portal:South Africa Selected biography subpages. I have worked on the portal already, so I'd rather not be involved in deletion matters regarding it. I may upgrade the portal using transclusions of the content on the Selected bio subpage with entries directly on the main portal page, using the {{Transclude random excerpt}} template, as has been done already with the Selected article section of the portal. If you'd like, you can consider doing it as well. North America1000 10:01, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Northamerica1000, my problem was just that they were generating script errors which is a bad look when transcluded to the main page. I will CSD them as WP:G8 since they're dependant on having some article selected. Just wanted to let you know in case you had a plan for them. Sorry for the pings, I didn't know how many there were, should have checked first and asked you on your talk page. --Trialpears (talk) 10:10, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Hey, no worries. Just don't have the ones that have entries deleted yet. Cheers, North America1000 10:16, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Of course not =) --Trialpears (talk) 11:04, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

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23:55, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

David Brown (British musician)

Hi, Trialpears. Can you improve the David Brown (British musician) article?

Emotioness Expression 07:59, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

I have plenty of other things to work at, but feel free to work on it yourself. Be bold! --Trialpears (talk) 08:37, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

List of Presidents of the United States by name

Hi, Trialpears. Remember me? The one who removed the advertisement label because there were no promotional language and later got a message saying that someone put back the advertisement label because it still has a problem with promotional language? Sorry about that recap. By the way, can you help me improve the List of Presidents of the United States by name article with no original research and citing references to a reliable and published source? I saw a label that the previous one has been deleted. I rewrote it and I got a label that the article will speedily deleted because the article has original research and no sources to verify. Note that I'll not be here because I have other stuff to do. I hope you will respond because if not, it will quickly get deleted.

Emotioness Expression, I've taken a look at the article and the biggest problem is the lack of sources. Taking a look at the ones in the article, all of them are 404s, unregistered domains, search bars or otherwise unreliable. If you have some reliable sources for the information it may be possible to save it. --Trialpears (talk) 08:37, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Trialpears, like I said, I'll not be here because I have other stuff to do (VERY important stuff). But let me know if the article has improved or not, though. --Emotioness Expression (talk) 04:57, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Help

How do I get the bot to run?? Looking to try this in Portal:Canada....coding test page at User:Moxy/sandbox.--Moxy 🍁 04:51, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Moxy, seems like me performing a trial using AWB stopped all Toolforge tasks. It would take less than 5 min to fix if I had access to my computer with my ssh key, but since I'm currently in an airport and will be away for over a week. Your implementation looks correct though. --Trialpears (talk) 06:15, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Moxy Finally got home again and reenabled the bot. You did indeed implement it correctly. This won't happen again since I've now set up a way for me to do it on the road. --Trialpears (talk) 19:52, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

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Closing TFDs

Please make sure that if you're not using WP:XFDCloser to close discussions that you <noinclude>...</noinclude> the {{being deleted}} template so that it is not transcluded on any pages. Primefac (talk) 18:55, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Primefac, very sorry for that, I will make sure it doesn't happen again. Thanks for telling me! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 23:05, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-45

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Recent changes

  • At Special:Contributions you could see up to 5000 edits at the same time if you edited the URL. This has been lowered to 500. This is to stop requests which break the sites. [15]

Changes later this week

  • MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry can set the default length to block a user for your wiki. You will be able to use MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip to set a different default block length for IP editors. [16]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 November. It will be on all wikis from 7 November (calendar).

Meetings

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16:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Sean Connery

Sean Connery was nót the first James Bond. American actor Barry Nelson was the first to portray Bond on screen, in a 1954 television adaptation. The page is protected against vandalisme?!! I cannot add the information to the page. Can you acces it? Ted1957 (talk) 23:08, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Ted1957, I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about the subject. Your best bet would be adding an edit request, instructions are found in the view source tab on the page. It's important that you have a reliable source for your claim, otherwise it won't be implemented. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 23:30, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Tulsa race riot

Hi, Trialpear. Can you help me fix the structure of the article?

User:Emotioness Expression 6:22 (UTC)

common.js

I could help but notice my script (User:BrandonXLF/WatchDoc.js) was installed as JS: User:BrandonXLF/WatchDoc.js on your common.js file. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 07:05, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

BrandonXLF, Thanks! I used User:Enterprisey/script-installer and there seems to be a bug report coming now. The script seems to be working great and thank you for your quick answer! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 07:42, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-46

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Recent changes

  • MediaWiki2LaTeX can put different pages from a Wikimedia wiki into a PDF. It can now make a PDF with around 5000 pages. Previously this was 800 pages.

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

Future changes

  • Wikimedia will take part in Google Code-in. This is for young students who want to help with open source software. You can read more. Experienced technical Wikimedians can mentor students.

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22:04, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Bots?

Why did you say that User:4o4NotFound Bot was violating bot rules? Most bots that are even approved are don’t have a name with their owner’s username or task. A very good example of this is User:CluebotNG.

D:, E Super Maker (talk) 00:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

E Super Maker, my first impression when seeing the name was that it was a self referential joke about the bot not being created yet, but now that I read it again it may be fine if it's a dead link repair bot. I don't know the story about cluebot's name but the vast majority has the operator name in full or in part (User:GreenC bot, User:AnomieBOT, User:PearBOT, User:PrimeBOT etc.) or the task such as User:Sinebot and User:SportsStatsBot. I would recommend a WP:RENAME, but I guess you could consult a bag member if you think the current name is fine. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 00:45, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-47

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Problems

Changes later this week

  • You can soon vote on proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can vote on proposals from 20 November to 2 December. This year the wishlist will focus on Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage and Wikinews. You can read more about the format for this year.
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

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20:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-48

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Changes later this week

  • The mobile beta mode will be disabled to have less maintenance. The developers will focus on the desktop improvements project. You can turn on advanced mobile contributions mode if you want to see the categories. You could also jump back to the top. This can instead be done with a gadget or user script. [18]
  • Parsoid is software we use for the visual editor, content translation, Flow and the Android app. This has been rewritten. It will come to the wikis gradually over the next two weeks. It has been tested, but there could be some diffs or previews that don't look right. If you see any you can report them. [19]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 November. It will be on the other wikis next week (calendar). This is because of holidays.

Meetings

Future changes

  • You will switch between the article and the talk page in a new way in the mobile view in the future. It will use tabs. This is more like in the desktop view. [20]

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16:52, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Archive box

Thanks for politely pointing out the error of my ways! LOL Coretheapple (talk) 03:03, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Coretheapple, don't worry about it! We all fall prey to TLDR every once in a while! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 09:42, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Journal infobox run?

It's been a while since the bot ran on journal articles and update the infobox needed thing. It would be nice if the bot ran daily/weekly/monthly to take care of those. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:52, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Headbomb, I thought I set it to run twice a month through cron, but I guess not. I'll take a look. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 12:01, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Well in any case, it hasn't run since October 12th. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:03, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Headbomb, Should be working now, will check it's next scheduled run in a week. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 13:34, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-49

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Recent changes

  • Mix'n'match is a tool to connect Wikidata items to information in other databases. It can be used to find subjects that are missing in a Wikipedia. It now has more than 3000 datasets. Before it was closer to 2000.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 December. It will be on all wikis from 5 December (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Advanced item There will be a new schema for XML dumps. Scripts and apps that use them will need to be updated. If they are not updated they will no longer work. [21]
  • Advanced item The {{REVISIONID}} magic word will no longer work in the content namespaces. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it returns "" (empty string). When you read a page it returns "-" (dash). In the future this will also affect other namespaces. The next ones are file and category namespaces. [22]

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16:59, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Archivebox

I was using {{Archivebox}} (a redirect to {{Archive box}}) on my talk page (along with 559 others?), which apparently turned into a double-redirect earlier today. Was I supposed to have known about this? Thanks. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 04:50, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

AlanM1, very sorry about that. I forgot to fix double redirects after redirecting per TfD which broke your box. It's now fixed and should be back to normal. Thanks for telling me; I won't do it again! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 08:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-50

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Recent changes

  • Wikimedia projects use Translatewiki to translate the wiki interface. You can now use WatchTranslations to watch projects there. You would get an email if there are missing translations to your language. [23]
  • Advanced item There is a new dataset you can use. It shows the number of editors per country per month for a number of countries. You can read the documentation and download the dataset.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 December. It will be on all wikis from 12 December (calendar).

Meetings

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16:38, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

PearBOT InfoBox

Hello, I am interested in the InfoBox work that your bot is conducting. In paricular, pages in radio, radio station, and amateur radio. What do the WikiProjects need to do to opt-in? Thanks. --mikeu talk 06:15, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Mu301, not much I mainly wanted to make sure that there wasn't anything special with these specific categories. I've seen many cases where these categories are customized in ways that would a bot run inappropriate. Some include infobox conversions where another infobox should be used, one had a competition where removal from the category was used to earn points, some projects use infobox templates not in the infobox pseudo namespace and some others have several conditionals for when they categorize it as an infobox request or even hardcoded the category. Since nothing strange seems to be going on for the three categories you mentioned I've added them to the list. It should do the first run this weekend. It will only look for {{Infobox radio station}} for WikiProject Radio Stations, but left the other to look for any infobox since they have a lot more diverse content. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 22:51, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll take a look after the bot runs. Let me know if there is anything I can clarify about usage in those projects. --mikeu talk 23:39, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-51

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Problems

  • The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. It did not show new changes last week. This was because of an API problem. It is now working again. [25]
  • Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information again. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. This is because of a database problem. The developers are working on solving the problem. [26]

Changes later this week

  • You can get email notifications. You can get them immediately, a summary every day or a summary once every week. If you choose a summary you can soon choose not to get notifications you have already marked as read on the wiki. [27]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 December. It will be on all wikis from 19 December (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • The partial blocks feature is now stable. It will come to most wikis on 6 January. Your wiki can ask to wait. Contact NKohli (WMF) if you don't want it now. [28]

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00:18, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-52

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Tech News

  • Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 6 January 2020.

Recent changes

  • All mobile site users now have new features. Features include: tabs for page/discussion; an expanded user-menu; direct access to history pages. These features were initially part of the "advanced mode".

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.

Future changes

  • You can use setlang in the URL to change the user interface language. This will no longer happen automatically. When you open the link you will be asked to confirm the language change. This will not happen if Javascript is not working in your browser. [29]

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20:08, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Hello Trialpears: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, DBigXrayᗙ Happy Holidays! 18:12, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message
Thanks! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 22:02, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Template:Cocktaildb recipe

Thanks for the change to the archived version for this template. Good solution! —Willscrlt ( Talk | com | b:en | meta ) 20:08, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia Books Webspace

Hi,

I filed a formal request for webspace here

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241584

If this succeeds I will upload the PDFs there and make them available through the mediawiki2latex web interface.

Yours Dirk Hünniger (talk) 16:24, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Dirk Hünniger, thanks for telling me! Just wondering if the File: namespace here on the English Wikipedia would be an acceptable location? It can host fair use content and wouldn't have any of the external link concerns. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 18:46, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I discussed that already without any result. But you are welcome to restart the discussion. See here

Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_159#running_a_bot_to_upload_pdf_versions_of_Wikipedia_books_to_Wikipedia

Dirk Hünniger (talk) 21:45, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia Books

Since you participated in the discussion on Wikipedia Books I herewith inform you that a decision has been taken.

See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_176#Suppress_rendering_of_Template:Wikipedia_books Dirk Hünniger (talk) 20:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Dirk Hünniger, that could potentially be a bit of a problem for the pdf plan. Perhaps we could ask Newslinger to clarify the closure with regards to the I'm thinking suppression of the template(s) is better than outright deletion in case the WMF finally does come up with something part of the proposal which seem to allow the decision to be reversed when a better system, such as the PDFs, is in place. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 10:30, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Dirk Hünniger and Trialpears, since the proposal in the RfC statement included suppression (and not deletion) of the templates, and the editors in the discussion did not explicitly discuss whether the templates should be deleted, I did not mention deletion in the closing summary. If you or another editor would like to delete the templates, the deletion can be evaluated through another village pump technical discussion or a template deletion discussion. Does this adequately explain the closure, or are there any additional areas that need to be clarified? — Newslinger talk 15:34, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
I am currently generating a PDF for each community maintained Book on Wikipedia. The progress has reached about 25%. I shall be finished in late July. I will make them publicly available and start a discussion on the unsuppression of the template by then. The next interesting point is the removal of the book creator from the sidebar. It is stated in the closing statement of the RFC that it is to be removed. But currently it is still in place. To me it is of no importance whether it is kept or not. I am just unhappy with the inconsistency. So please either change the closing statement of the RFC to "book creator it kept in the sidebar" or remove the book creator from the sidebar. There may be many ways of removing the book creator from the sidebar. To me just modifying MediaWiki:Common.js looks like the easiest. Dirk Hünniger (talk) 16:33, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Dirk Hünniger, it is being removed through T241683, just taking a while for the patch to be synced. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 16:41, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Ok, then this is Ok to me. Dirk Hünniger (talk) 16:51, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Short descriptions by bot

Hi there, I've been checking a few of the short descriptions added by the bot and I have to say many of them are all as they should be, thanks for the efforts here :) I found a few that may indicate something that's worth reviewing for future runs, it seems to pick up words at the end in some cases:

One other thing is that it may be a nice rule to remove the word "former" in many short descriptions (e.g., https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Galina_Alekseyeva_(diver)&diff=933966971&oldid=918543570&diffmode=source ) as it can be shortened to the short description without it (I assume). Simeon (talk) 03:37, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Simeon, thanks! I've now made sure that there are no nationality only descriptions, fixed the riding for bug caused by {{ct}} and improved the trailing words checks. All these changes have been manually applied retroactively as well. I also did some tweaking to removed "former" and "born in", but left in "from" since I'm worried about excluding such a common word without major testing and the descriptions are acceptable with it as well. I've also checked another 100 descriptions using these new modifications and they all look fine. Again thank you for telling me about these issues! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 18:11, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-02

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Changes later this week

  • When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [30]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 January. It will be on all wikis from 9 January (calendar).

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21:23, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

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Happy template editing! Primefac (talk) 01:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Service Award

Congrats on achieving a Service award for 10,000 edits on Wikipedia. J.Stalin S Talk 10:45, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Wow that's a looot of edits... Thanks! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 12:58, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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