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Help

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Could you help me with this question about logging in from SSH to use Toolforge tools? User_talk:Novem_Linguae#Need_help (permalink). --David Tornheim (talk) 13:31, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replied there. Sohom (talk) 13:52, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for help with Yapperbot being down

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The Technical Barnstar
For your prompt, correct response to my request for help and for quickly getting Yapperbot Feedback Request Service restored. --David Tornheim (talk) 20:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you :) Sohom (talk) 03:22, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 August newsletter

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re: Jschlatt draft

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Just wanted to clarify for any avoidance of doubt that I was not the one who submitted the draft. I wasn't even aware that a user who isn't the author could submit a draft. Thanks for taking a look at it anyway. dyln (talk) 18:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ack, I think it was an IP who submitted the draft. No issues there. Regarding the state of the draft, @Dyln1 I would suggest adding non-primary (third-party) sources to prove notability. Sohom (talk) 12:48, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the advice. It's pretty difficult finding non-primary sources but there are a few podcasts the subject has been on. He's quite an evasive character but I reckon I *should* be able to present enough notability to meet WP:ENT. dyln (talk) 19:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your GA nomination of Nicholas Carlini

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Nicholas Carlini you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Vacant0 -- Vacant0 (talk) 11:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, can you please assist me with this draft on whether it is notable or not? I mentioned a comment on highlighting 3 sources which may go with GNG (only issue is SIGCOV). If possible can you review the draft. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️(🗨️✉️📔) 05:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While the sources you mention do marginally pass WP:GNG in my opinion, I'm slightly uncomfortable taking the decision to move it into mainspace since a similar article was redirected in 1 June 2024. Toweli do you have any thoughts on this new draft's notability? Sohom (talk) 12:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Any new suggestions for improvement would be greatly appreciated. I will wait for Toweli's response. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️(🗨️✉️📔) 13:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Toweli, can you please respond to above question asked by Sohom? ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️(🗨️✉️📔) 13:57, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for not responding earlier. This draft article appears to be much better than the one I had redirected on 1 June, which was entirely unsourced. toweli (talk) 15:02, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sohom Datta, if this fits you well, you can get your time and review it. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️(🗨️✉️📔) 15:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Response to Reviewer's Feedback on Draft:Cyber_privacy

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Let us express our sincere gratitude for the efforts the reviewer has invested in analyzing our humble draft Wikipedia page, 'Cyber privacy.' https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cyber_privacy

We would like to emphasize that the conclusion made by the respected reviewer, that "this article needs to be completely rewritten to even stand a chance of being accepted," not only does not discourage us but instead inspires optimism and sparks curiosity about the potential of our intellectual abilities to approach the standards of the accomplished Wikipedia reviewers.

While the valuable insights provided by the reviewer are so profound that they will take time to process, we would humbly suggest further discussion if the esteemed reviewer deems it worthy of their attention. Specifically, the phrase generously offered by the reviewer, which states: "I'm still not convinced that "cyber privacy" as a neologism actually exists in the world. Non of the sources cited here actually define cyber-privacy as being any different from internet privacy or Information privacy. At best, the sources convince me that this would be a redirect to Internet privacy which appear to be dealing with this exact topic." —suggests that the reviewer holds the opinion that "cyberspace" consists solely of something digital and internet-based.

The distinction between 'cyber-', 'digital-', and 'internet-' forms the crux of the article's topic and is central to understanding why 'cyber privacy' deserves separate consideration.

We fully understand that the assumption of complete equivalence between these terms is a legitimate perspective shared by many notable scholars, including a number of Wikipedia reviewers. Indeed, the current Wikipedia article on 'cyberspace' conveys this idea, defining cyberspace solely as internet and digital. However, there exists a well-established cohort of scholars, officials, and stakeholders who adopt a broader definition of "cyberspace," underscoring that 'cyber-,' 'internet-,' and 'digital-' may occupy distinct, albeit related, spheres.

While we appreciate the feedback, the claim that 'cyber privacy' is synonymous with 'internet privacy' overlooks several authoritative distinctions in academic, legal, and industry discourse. If necessary, we are happy to provide further evidence to clarify this matter.

We are mindful of the valuable time of the esteemed reviewer and would humbly inquire whether they are interested in continuing this discussion. Should the reviewer find it intellectually engaging, we might suggest a brief exploration into the difference between "cyberattack" and "cyberspace attack," which may shed light on the concept of "cyberspace" that informed the development of the draft in question.

Once again, we appreciate the reviewer's insights and the constructive direction provided. Professorincryptography (talk) 11:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Professorincryptography Two questions:
  • The distinction between 'cyber-', 'digital-', and 'internet-' forms the crux of the article's topic and is central to understanding why 'cyber privacy' deserves separate consideration. - Could you be more explicit about what this distinction is?
  • While we appreciate the feedback, the claim that 'cyber privacy' is synonymous with 'internet privacy' overlooks several authoritative distinctions in academic, legal, and industry discourse. If necessary, we are happy to provide further evidence to clarify this matter. That's the only thing that is needed in the draft. Feel free to provide it when you can.
Regarding the rest of your message, feel free to cut out the flowery language when you next message to me, and explicitly define who "we" is. The Wikipedia community tends to discourage role account, i.e. teams editing through one account. Sohom (talk) 12:59, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am thankful for the swift and concise reply. Let me address the points mentioned.
1. This account is a single-person account, and any suspicions that it is used by someone else will be reported by me. By "we," I meant only myself. I used the author's we, but I now understand this may have been confusing under Wikipedia rules. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
2. I am happy to provide a clearer distinction between 'cyber-', 'digital-', and 'internet-' based on reliable sources. I originally did not expand on this in the draft to keep the focus on "cyber privacy," but I can provide a summary as follows:
The distinction between "cyber-", "digital-", and "internet-" revolves around scope. "Cyber-" includes both digital and non-digital systems, encompassing infrastructures like telecommunications networks and industrial control systems, some of which may not be connected to the Internet. "Internet-" is specific to the global network, while "digital-" refers strictly to data in binary form, which may or may not be part of the cyber domain.
This diagram provides a factual summary of key concepts from ISO/IEC 27032, NIST, CNSSI, NSPD-54, and 18 USC 1030 regarding the distinctions between cyber, internet, digital, and related systems.
I am happy to share the following points with you, starting with the visual representation I’ve created based on the documents I cite below (see the attached picture). I will now provide evidence to show that this illustration is valid.
- Exhibit A: Visual depiction of the interaction between 'cybersecurity', 'internet', 'networks', etc., from ISO/IEC 27032:2023. (Necessary to open the file [1])
Definition: "cyberspace - whole of interconnected information processing systems, including the Internet, and of data they are processing."
- Exhibit B: A citation from NSPD-54/HSPD-23 (2008)[2] defines cyberspace as "The interdependent network of information technology infrastructures that includes the Internet, telecommunications networks, computers, information systems, industrial control systems, networks, and embedded processors and controllers."
This definition was later used in the following documents: CNSSI 4009-2015, NIST Special Publications (SP 800-30, 800-39, 800-53). Link to this definition: [3].
There is, for example, a scholarly edited volume (secondary source) [4] that uses "cyber privacy" referring specifically to the definition of "cyber-" that originates from this document.
Similarly, authors like [5] use "cyber privacy," citing the development of the document such as JP 1-02 vocabulary or Tallinn Manual.
- Exhibit C: Examples of technologies that are either not completely digital or not internet-based but still fall under the "cyber-" definition of Exhibit B and are currently in use include Alcatel-Lucent 5ESS, Allen-Bradley SLC 500, Hughes HS-376, and General Electric 9070 SCADA System.
With this in mind, the use of the term "cyber privacy" in a technical article published in IEEE is relevant regarding hybrid analog/digital systems: [6].
- Exhibit D: Citation from [7]: "Whoever <...> intentionally accesses a protected computer without authorization, and as a result of such conduct, causes damage and loss <...> shall be punished." Here, and in the entire paragraph, nothing is mentioned about whether the information is digital or if access is through the internet. However, the term "computer" used in the context can refer to non-digital systems (as demonstrated by Exhibit C) while still being part of cyberspace (according to Exhibit B), thus extending beyond digital and internet-based systems.
Further clarification can be seen in the definition provided by [8] where "electronic communications system" is defined as "any wire, radio, electromagnetic, photooptical, or photoelectronic facilities for the transmission of wire or electronic communications, and any computer facilities or related electronic equipment for the electronic storage of such communications." This definition supports the view that "cyber privacy" need not be exclusively dependent on digital information or internet communications.
Moreover, in the article [9], the term "cyber privacy" is defined, based solely on laws such as these, which demonstrates that "cyber privacy" does not necessarily involve internet or digital data. The transmission of information of any kind—whether digital or analog—can still be captured under the term "cyber."
To sum up, the provided references offer distinct examples of how "cyber-" differs from "digital" and "internet," along with several secondary sources that use the term "cyber privacy" outside the scope of both "internet" and "digital." Professorincryptography (talk) 22:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Professorincryptography Sorry for the rather late reply, I did look at these sources and while I can see your point, I don't think you have sources to merit a new article about "cyber-privacy". A lot of what you have provided are building blocks for an argument (definitions and people incidentally using the word), but you haven't provided any sources that actually make the exact argument that you are making and actually advocating for the use of the specific word "cyber-privacy". Sohom (talk) 09:21, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ ISO/IEC 27032:2023 - Guidelines for cybersecurity (PDF). ISO. 2023. Retrieved 5 September 2024.
  2. ^ National Security Presidential Directive 54/Homeland Security Presidential Directive 23 (Report). National Security Archive, George Washington University. January 8, 2008. Retrieved 5 September 2024.
  3. ^ "Cyberspace Definition". NIST Computer Security Resource Center. National Institute of Standards and Technology. Retrieved 5 September 2024.
  4. ^ Schmitt, M. N.; Vihul, Liis (2016). Osula, Anna-Maria; Rõigas, Henry (eds.). The Nature of International Law Cyber Norms (PDF). CCDCOE. p. 23. Retrieved 5 September 2024.
  5. ^ Petty, Jason (June 22, 2021). "How Hackers of Submarine Cables May Be Held Liable Under the Law of the Sea". Chicago Journal of International Law. 22 (1): 402–439.
  6. ^ Liu, E.; Cheng, P. (2018). "Mitigating Cyber Privacy Leakage for Distributed DC Optimal Power Flow in Smart Grid With Radial Topology". IEEE Access. 6: 7911–7920. doi:10.1109/ACCESS.2018.2802456.
  7. ^ 18 U.S.C. § 1030 - Fraud and related activity in connection with computers. U.S. Code. U.S. House of Representatives. Retrieved 5 September 2024.
  8. ^ 18 U.S.C. § 2510 - Definitions. U.S. Code. Legal Information Institute. Retrieved 5 September 2024.
  9. ^ Elmaghraby, Adel S.; Losavio, Michael M. (July 2014). "Cyber security challenges in Smart Cities: Safety, security and privacy". Journal of Advanced Research. 5 (4): 491–497. doi:10.1016/j.jare.2014.02.006. PMC 4294750. PMID 25685517. Retrieved 5 September 2024.

The Signpost: 4 September 2024

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DCWC September update

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Your GA nomination of Nicholas Carlini

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Your GA nomination of Nicholas Carlini

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Tech News: 2024-37

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Administrator Elections: Updates & Schedule

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Hello, Sohom Datta,

You tagged this article for an AFD discussion but I notices that you didn't post a notification on the User talk page of the article creator which is part of the deletion process. You used Twinkle which should have taken care of this step for you. So, please check your Twinkle Preferences and make sure that the box indicating "Notify page creator" is checked off. This should take care of notification for you automatically so please do not uncheck it. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz This is probably a software error or a networking hiccup. I haven't disabled that checkbox AFAIK.
I'll keep a close tab on making sure that this does not happen in the future. Sohom (talk) 13:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Farjana837 (09:08, 11 September 2024)

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Why koimoi.com is unreliable source in wikipedia --Farjana837 (talk) 09:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newest Problem with Croptool

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Hi Sohom Datta. Please read this Commons Discussion about the new Problem with Croptool. Maybe you can manage a new Task in Phabricator to solve the problem. Thank you. Leonprimer (talk) 00:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will take a look over this coming weekend. Sohom (talk) 02:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Client Hints

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Tech News: 2024-38

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Nomination of .рус for deletion

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Post-RfA response

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I will first make sure that the new article in its current state addresses all the issue brought up in the previous AFD ...

That's pretty much what the gist of my position also was, so we seem to generally be on the same page after all. Apologies for the "you're wrong" tone I took. I should have instead tried something like a "Some considerations I would raise are ..." angle.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September thanks

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story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in September! - Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost, BWV 114, is one of the pieces in my topic of this year. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Client Hints

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The article Client Hints you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Client Hints and Talk:Client Hints/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of RoySmith -- RoySmith (talk) 19:04, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-39

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DYK for Nicholas Carlini

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RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review

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Ack! Sohom (talk) 10:46, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Permissions bug

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How were you able to edit the fully protected page Wikipedia:Requests for oversight even though you are not an admin? This is probably due to a bug that incorrectly gives you permission to edit the page. GTrang (talk) 05:05, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it is a bug, I believe I was able to edit it was because I have Global interface editor privileges (primarily to help work on fixing issues on Wikisource -- but a side effect is that it also gives me intadmin on all wikis). I assumed for some reason that the page was auto-confirmed/extended-confirmed protected and only after going through with the edit did I realize that the padlock was a fully protected padlock :( Sohom (talk) 11:02, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Abid Hussain shar (02:26, 30 September 2024)

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Sir I want to add a missing place,or village how add in Wikipedia, please help --Abid Hussain shar (talk) 02:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-40

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Question from Peter flavelle love (15:00, 2 October 2024)

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Sohom. I am 75 and use Wikipedia all the time and am a regular small financial supporter. I only want to suggest one edit and do not really want to take the course to figure out how. can i send it to you? tks --Peter flavelle love (talk) 15:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DCWC closing update

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September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
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Template:Archivetop

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Hi again, you were very helpful with Template:Discussion top and Template:Afd top when I raised a problem they had with the green on black gadget. There seems to be a similar problem with Template:Archive top, under discussion at Template talk:Archive top#Dark mode gadget. DuncanHill (talk) 17:32, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DuncanHill I've fixed the issue with Template:Archive top :) Sohom (talk) 17:44, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. DuncanHill (talk) 17:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit requests

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Hey, could you please review these edit requests (1, 2, 3, 4) as well? Thank you! Waqar💬 14:09, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Sohom (talk) 20:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! Waqar💬 05:13, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-42

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:18, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A fox for you!

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Here's to hoping the admin elections go well. I'm really happy you decided to go for it. :)

Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:17, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, let's see how it goes :) Sohom (talk) 12:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pager explosions

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Just noting I tagged 2024 Lebanon pager explosions early on when there were still active theories about it being a cybersecurity breach (some malware causing exploding batteries), but the prevailing story now is they were remotely triggered (so I think you are right to untag WP:COMPSEC). Tule-hog (talk) 17:03, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Sohom (talk) 02:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Updated "Chief Artificial Intellligence Officer", request review to remove Tagged Issues

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Hello! I've updated the Chief AI Officer article per your tags as noted in the Talk page.

Chief AI officer

Can you review and let me know if there are any more specific issues I can address to have these tags removed?

Thanks (good luck with the GA promotion recommendation),

J J2000ai (talk) 18:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This resurgence of AI can be dated to the end of the last AI winter, marked by the 2012 ImageNet competition. is cited to the imagenet competition, which is a obvious bogus source since it does not verify the "resurgence of AI" portion. Additionally the second paragraph is filled with dubious phrasing like leading institutions and market leaders. I also doubt that LinkedIn data is a reliable indicator of anything concrete. Lastly, it seems the AI LEAD act has only bee introduced into the house and has not been made into a law, something the article glosses over. TLDR, I think my concerns still stand, the article is still trying hard to sell a particular viewpoint, but there are holes in verifiability and encyclopedic writing. Sohom (talk) 09:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick reply. I've posted detailed replies to the 4 issues you raised on the CAIO Article Talk Page per Wikipedia guidelines. I think one was a simple misunderstanding that the LinkedIn research report was not just a random social media post and the other 3 I addressed in the revision with more supporting authoratative links. - J J2000ai (talk) 22:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Still navigating my way with Wikipedia editorial guidelines and best practices, so apologies for my verbose initial responses.
I realized I poorly addressed the nub of 2/4 of your critiques. Therefore, I've followed up on these two issues with succint replies to directly address your core concerns. Cheers, J J2000ai (talk) 18:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator Elections: Candidate instructions

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Administrator Elections | Instructions for candidates

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The Signpost: 19 October 2024

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October thanks

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story · music · places

Thank you for improving articles on October! - My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our Admin Election Test

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Hello there. As we're preparing to move from one stage to the next, this is just a quick note from one member of the test group to another, wishing you well in the process of this new alternative to RfA. It seems that there are more of us in this group than some in the community anticipated, so i hope that doesn't make the experience any the worse for all of us. Whatever our individual results, i thank you, along with the rest, for stepping up and testing this process; happy days, ~ LindsayHello 07:17, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-43

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Administrator Elections: Discussion phase

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The discussion phase of the October 2024 administrator elections is officially open. As a reminder, the schedule of the election is:

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Administrator Elections: Voting phase

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The voting phase of the October 2024 administrator elections has started and continues until 23:59 31st October 2024 UTC. You can participate in the voting phase at Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Voting phase.

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Editing through full protection

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I can't figure out how you were able to make this edit to Wikipedia:Requests for oversight, which has been fully protected since 2008. From your self-revert's edit summary, you weren't originally aware that it was fully-protected – implying that you edited through full protection without even trying to. Do you have any idea how this happened, or are you just as confused as I am? jlwoodwa (talk) 04:41, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry, you already answered this in § Permissions bug. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-44

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WikiCup 2024 November newsletter

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The 2024 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round being a very tight race. Our new champion is AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who scored 2,283 points mainly through 3 high-multiplier FAs and 3 GAs on military history topics. By a 1% margin, Airship beat out last year's champion, Delaware BeanieFan11 (submissions), who scored second with 2,264 points, mainly from an impressive 58 GAs about athletes. In third place, Generalissima (submissions) scored 1,528 points, primarily from two FAs on U.S. Librarians of Congress and 20 GAs about various historical topics. Our other finalists are: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 879 points, Canada Hey man im josh (submissions) with 533 points, BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 432 points, Arconning (submissions) with 244 points, and Christmas Island AryKun (submissions) with 15 points. Congratulations to our finalists and all who participated!

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A barnstar for you!

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The Admin's Barnstar
For passing in the new admin elections trial. It was an honor to co-nominate you with Novem Linguae. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:49, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was a honour to be nominated by you as well :) Sohom (talk) 08:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations! Plantaest (talk) 13:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations

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On your election as a new admin! Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:54, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seconding — congratulations, Sohom! TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you :) I hope to use the bits well :) Sohom (talk) 08:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
story · music · places
Congratulations! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For a surprise, a Bach cantata is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An open letter open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - Madeleine Riffaud - remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-45

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New Admin Bâtonnets

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I may not be able to offer you the baton, but I hope you can savour these bâtonnets as you study all the new admin buttons! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on winning the adminship

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Keep playing with the shinny new buttons. Wikibear47 (talk) 01:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 6 November 2024

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"He who does not keep peace shall lose his hand."

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The axe of responsibility
Shiny new tools might be used to mete out justice, mercy or a dose of reality. Let us commit to not losing our cool when using them. Our only armor is the entire community's trust. We wear it for each other, each new contributor, and each new generation to come. May you ever be the community's champion.
BusterD (talk) 14:21, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here comes...

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The new admin baton
Congratulations on winning the admin election! SD0001 passed the fabled baton to me and, and having given it a twirl or two, I am passing it on to you! Once you are done appreciating its magnificence, do pass it to the next admin. Happy mopping!

Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:36, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A cheeseburger for you!

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Woah woah...new sysop in town. Congratulations :) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 04:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-46

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Impact template

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First off - congrats on adminship! I was pleased to see that you were elected, since my (admittedly few) prior interactions with you have been very pleasant. I really like the "Impact" template you have at the top of your userpage and I'm interested in adding something similar to mine, though just adding the {{Special:Impact/PCN02WPS}} gives the full readout as opposed to just what you have. If you wouldn't mind divulging your secrets, what behind-the-scenes wizardry is needed to get mine to look like yours? Thank you! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PCN02WPS Most of the heavy lifting is done by User:Sohom Datta/styles.css which is loaded on my userpage using TemplateStyles. The CSS removes many of the unnecessary elements and styles the impact bar to custer into the center. If you want to replicate the effect, you probably need to add the following
/* don't display anything except the first child div */
section.ext-growthExperiments-NewImpact > div:nth-child(n+2) {
	display: none;
}
/* override the min-height now that we've got rid of a load of the other divs */
div.growthexperiments-homepage-module-impact {
	min-height: 0 !important;
}
/* get rid of the bottom whitespace now that there's only the four boxes */
.growthexperiments-homepage-module {
	padding-bottom: 0;
	padding-top: 0;
	border:0px solid #fff;
	overflow: hidden;
}
/* don't show the impact header */
.growthexperiments-homepage-module h2.growthexperiments-homepage-module-header {
	display: none !important; 
}
.ext-growthExperiments-Popover {
	display: none;
}
.ext-growthExperiments-ScoreCard {
	background: rgba(0,0,0,0);
}
.ext-growthExperiments-ScoreCards {
	display: flex;
	justify-content: center;
}
to a templatestyles .css page and load it in your user page. Sohom (talk) 00:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to add it to my userpage and got an error that "Page User:PCN02WPS/styles.css must have content model "Sanitized CSS" for TemplateStyles (current model is "CSS")." Unfortunately I have no idea what that means. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 00:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PCN02WPS The page was created as a normal CSS page, whereas templatestyles uses a special Sanitized CSS content model which is what templatestyles is complaining about. (the way I have gotten around to creating a page with the special Sanitized CSS content model previously is by create the page in the template namespace and then move it into userspace). For now, I have changed the content model for User:PCN02WPS/styles.css and you should be able to use it on your userpage. Sohom (talk) 02:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's awesome, works perfectly. I really appreciate the help as there is absolutely no shot I would have figured any of that out. Thank you! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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