Template:Did you know nominations/Nicholas Carlini

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The result was: promoted by DimensionalFusion talk 13:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Nicholas Carlini

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... that Nicholas Carlini showed that ChatGPT could leak personal information?

Source: https://www.wired.com/story/chatgpt-poem-forever-security-roundup/

ALT1: ... that, in 2018, Nicholas Carlini's team broke 7 of the 11 AI defenses presented in the ICLR conference that year? Source: https://www.wired.com/story/ai-has-a-hallucination-problem-thats-proving-tough-to-fix/
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Answers Research Journal

Improved to Good Article status by Sohom Datta (talk) and 2401hz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

Sohom (talk) 14:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Approved ALT0. ALT1 is rejected, and I'll provide a couple comments on it which you can feel free to ignore if you prefer ALT0. The phrasing could certainly be tighter: you don't need to say "in 2018" and "that year" in the same sentence. "ICLR" is an initialism used without context, so I might pipe that link as "a 2018 conference". Also, the source uses the word "broken" in quotes for a reason: it's not clear exactly what breaking a defense means in this context, and it seems to only be a claim from the team, not a fact that the source is backing. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:24, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

I think it makes sense to go forward with only ALT0, we could try and get ALT1 to work but trying to explain "defenses" would probably make the hook fail WP:DYKINT since that would require talking about what adversarial examples are. Sohom (talk) 19:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

@TechnoSquirrel69: The DYK bot only picks up the approval if the green tick is the last symbol: the rejection symbol is blocking the hook's approval. If If one of the ALTs is approved, can you add a green tick below, indicating the hooks that are approved? Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 14:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Z1720, that's good to know! Hello bot, ALT0

appoved. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)