User talk:Prahlad balaji/Archive/5
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Speedy speedy
Hi Prahlad balaji, thanks for tagging the article HungerStation as speedy. I agree with the rationale! However, this is also a new editor and the first article. All other things equal, it's always good to give articles a little bit of a chance to see what editors make of it. Speedy tagging within 1 minute of creation seems excessively fast. Unless an article is defamatory, etc., it's always a good idea to let them sit for 10-15 mins and see what happens. I hope this makes sense. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 00:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Jake Brockman, thanks for letting me know. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 00:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- I actually realised that HungerStation is the local brand of Delivery Hero and is mentioned in that article. I redirected instead. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk
HungerStation is the most popular delivery food app in Saudi arabia and it used by many people which means it is popular and must be published in Wikipedia, i think there is no reason for the deletion of the article, given that i made some mistakes while editing and published it accidently without putting sources, developing ect.. so i think the page must be recovered
- Aziz bm See the discussion above. The page has been retargeted. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 00:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Talabat is similar to hungerstation and it's local brand is delivery hero, and it's article not redirected, so there is no clear reason to redirect the article, i recommend you to recover the page and give me full access to edit, adding sources ect...
- As with draftifying, above, please do not be in such a hurry. As it says in Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, "
Contributors sometimes create pages over several edits, so administrators should avoid deleting a page that appears incomplete too soon after its creation.
" Give an editor a chance to add sources etc. The only cases which should be nominated for speedy deletion immediately after creation are those involving things like controversial BLP or clear vandalism. PamD 08:04, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- PamD, thanks for telling me. Jake Brockman told me above. --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 12:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Sockpuppet investigation
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An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Prahlad balaji, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.
Weatherman1228 (talk) 00:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
HungerStation
I am shocked at what you did from the Hungerstation page, although until now there is no clear reason to retarget/redirect the page, given that Talabat has the same thing to HungerStation, it's local brand isHero delivery and it's article is still existing, also, the app is populary used in Saudi Arabia which means it must be published in Wikipedia, And excuse me if I bothered you, I am a new user and I did not create articles until I collected all the reliable sources Aziz bm (talk) 01:05, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Aziz bm Please see WP:NOTABILITY. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 01:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
i was creating the page, i was going to add sources and develop it but suddenly i mistakenly published the page before completing it, so this is my reason to recover it, thanks
- Aziz bm Then feel free to create a draft for it at Draft:HungerStation. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 01:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for helping, I've just edited the article, i will leave all the other things to be contributed by the editors, I will leave you the space to watch It and decide whether or not the page was worth publishing
All reports are valid on EFFPR
Hi! Re Remember to only report if the filter disallows your edit, not warns it.
: all false positives should be reported so that the filters can be fixed. False warnings and tags can scare good-faith editors away and false positives make patrolling the edit filter log more annoying. – Majavah talk · edits 08:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Majavah, thanks. I reported a false positive earlier, but some people said that I should only report for disallows. Thanks for telling me. --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 12:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks
Hi Prahlad, I just wanted to say thank you for the Barnstar you gave me! 47.227.95.73 (talk) 15:18, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- No prob! Thanks dude :) ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:05, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Change to my user name
Hi Prahlad! You made this edit to my user page, and I am all for it, and it looks like an edit I wanted to make anyway, and I am wondering why you did it. Is it some workflow I am unaware of? Just curious! Thanks for the edit anyway! :) --denny vrandečić (talk) 21:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Denny, please see Special:AbuseLog/27157251. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 22:27, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Aah, gotcha! Thanks! Sorry for the extra work. --denny vrandečić (talk) 22:33, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Filter
Thanks Prahlad ji for helping with my earlier filter problem. Please help again on this anothe problem with the same filter. Short term, please apply navbox to those articles in the "See Also". For the long term, you could fix the filter in a way that it will parse the article namespace and article lede fields in database, and then will allow the insertion of banned words in the article if those words already exist in the article namespace or lede, or some similar rule. Thanks. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 00:34, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Done ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 00:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you bhai, you are my hero and savior. Love uyou for that. Hugs. Have a great day. Cheers. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 00:43, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 00:45, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you bhai, you are my hero and savior. Love uyou for that. Hugs. Have a great day. Cheers. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 00:43, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of User:Phillip from PCPP
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A tag has been placed on User:Phillip from PCPP requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Jusdafax (talk) 02:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
This is for your valuable efforts on countering Vandalism and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 09:57, 8 July 2020 (UTC) |
- Path slopu, thank you! I really appreciate it :) --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 10:00, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Edit warring
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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. NB: I am going to place this on the other editor's talk page too. Giraffer (munch) 10:58, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Giraffer, the user I was warring with is now blocked. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 10:59, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ok thanks. I will now remove this. Giraffer (munch) 11:00, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Slurp slurp - a beer for you!
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Hey! I saw you doing some great work at the edit filter :). Apologies for the edit warring notice, a lapse in my judgement... anyway keep it up! Regards, Giraffer (munch) 11:14, 8 July 2020 (UTC) |
- Giraffer thanks :) I actually hope to become an edit filter helper next month ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 11:17, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Copyeditor's Barnstar |
Thank you for being kind, helpful, prompt, and encouraging! Thanks for the positive contributions. Khudos, keep it up. You're great! 58.182.176.169 (talk) 19:18, 8 July 2020 (UTC) ) |
- Thanks! I appreciate it! ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 19:19, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Genuinely curious, but what's the point of this template? Primefac (talk) 15:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Primefac It's if you want to sandwich text B between text A. I was planning to use it for my archives, but I guess it doesn't work with big strings of text. I didn't request a self-delete, because I thought it could be useful someday. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 16:12, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Removing CSD
Well, I explained it pretty well why I removed your prod nomination - the article Nicki_minaj_sample_songs is definitely not a PROD Candidate, it is a CSD A9. BTW: Quite unusual to use templates messaging twice for experienced editors like me but anyway. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:36, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- commanderWaterford What are you talking about? The article Nicki Minaj exists, and is notable, and I did not PROD it, but I AfD'd it. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:38, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Prahlad balaji, I am talking about your false revert at Nicki_minaj_sample_songs and leaving an automated warning message at my talk page. AfD is not the correct way for this "article", it is a CSD Candidate. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- CommanderWaterford, I don't think this applies for CSD A9, as Nicki Minaj is notable, and has a page. Please elaborate. Thanks, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:43, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Prahlad balaji, I am talking about your false revert at Nicki_minaj_sample_songs and leaving an automated warning message at my talk page. AfD is not the correct way for this "article", it is a CSD Candidate. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Applying Appropriate CSD Tags
Right here you applied a G11 to a draft article which a “G11” did not apply. A G2 was okay, the G11 wasn’t, it’s a common practice amongst relatively new editors who aren’t sure of which tags to apply, apply multiple tags hoping one of them would stick. Just thought to let you know since you aren’t amongst the “relatively new editor” crew. Celestina007 (talk) 17:31, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Celestina007, thanks for telling me. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:32, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Checking edit choice
Hi, I'd like to check that your edit to the page Solidaridad Internacional Antifascista was not a mistake? From what I can tell, the More citations needed template is only meant for pages with no unreferenced material, and I believe all the material is referenced. I've reverted the edit, but if I'm wrong please let me know! Sparkledriver (talk) 21:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sparkledriver, how does
{{more citations needed}}
apply topages with no unreferenced material
? ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:51, 10 July 2020 (UTC)- Prahlad balaji Sorry silly typo - I meant it only applies to pages with unreferenced material! Sparkledriver (talk) 21:53, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sparkledriver Looks like there's an error on my part too - I thought some of the lead was unreferenced. Thanks for letting me know. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:55, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
My talk page
Hi there! Just got thanked by you for my edit on my talk page, so I thought of dropping by and saying hi. Is it normal for user talk pages to get spammed randomly? I'm a relatively new user so its actually the first instance of random spamming that occurred. --Ashleyyoursmile! 15:25, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ashleyyoursmile, there are a lot of instances where talkpages get spammed (not necessarily with spam links though, like in your case). For example, here and [1]. However, I haven't seen many spam links being inserted into talkpages, so your case is somewhat unique. Keep up the good work! Sincerely, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:31, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Clerking SPI
I realize that you're trying to be helpful but please refrain from clerking SPI and tagging socks - that is a task specifically meant for patrolling admins, clerks and checkusers. Praxidicae (talk) 11:21, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Prax, there appear to be actual confirmed socks. Please see Category: Wikipedia sockpuppets of Managerjamesh. Please clarify. Thanks. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 14:34, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- what part of my statement to you about not clerking SPI - not a specific case, is unclear and in need of clarification? Praxidicae (talk) 14:48, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Praxidicae ok, I won't clerk SPI. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:14, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
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July 2020 (removed edit - Katica Illenyi)
Hi Prahlad balaji,
How are you? I'm writing you regarding my edit of Katica Illenyi's page that was removed. (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Katica_Ill%C3%A9nyi) I'm a friend of the artist, Katica Illenyi, who asked me to improve and sort out her English wiki page. I would like to ask for you help, how should I start it, or what I did wrong previously. All the information I'd like to share comes from the artist herself.
Thanks for you time!
Kindest Regards, Lorant — Preceding unsigned comment added by LorantMile (talk • contribs) 12:59, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi LorantMile, please see WP:COI. On Wikipedia, you don't write about a friend just because they asked you to. The edit you added was also a copyvio. We don't accept those, see WP:COPYVIO. Kindest regards, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 13:22, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Ty (disambiguation)
Hi Prahlad blaji, just a note to explain the revert at Ty (disambiguation) - since disambiguation pages are intended to help readers quickly distinguish between articles with similar titles, each entry should contain only one blue link - MOS:DABENTRY, if you're intereseted. Leschnei (talk) 22:52, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Leschnei, I know that, but the first sentence is not an entry. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 00:09, 15 July 2020 (UTC)1
- I could be wrong, but I think it's considered an entry since it links to the primary topic Ty. The examples at MOS:DABPRIMARY all use a single blue link. Leschnei (talk) 01:42, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Sandwich text
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Please slow down
First of all, I'd like to apologize for my mistaken revert of Bryan O'Mara. I wanted to double check your contributions before writing this message (which I was doing on my phone), and my fat finger somehow hit the revert button by accident.
It's great to see that you're taking an active interest in improving the project. However, you have been cautioned about getting involved in administrative areas numerous times by Nick and Ponyo previously, and most recently by Praxidicae. I noticed that you recently created Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/The Suix. Typically, the goal with LTA's is to deny recognition as much as possible unless there's a compelling reason to maintain institutional knowledge for an LTA. I worry that other editors may begin to see it as disruptive, which I certainly doubt is your intention.
You don't have to answer this one way or the other, but your interactions with others gives me the impression that you might be an underage editor. If I'm wrong on that, I sincerely apologize. If you are, though, I'll simply say this: I vividly remember when I was 10 and discovered Wikipedia for the first time, and I remember how eager I was to jump in and contribute to the project. I ultimately made many mistakes starting out, especially by trying to get involved in anti-vandalism work and administrative areas too quickly. I was fortunate to come across a very caring and respectful administrator at the time that encouraged me to slow down and focus on improving content rather than administrative areas, which got me involved with copy-editing articles and improving the project's content however I could.
I'd like to encourage you to do the same: don't worry about the back-end administrative stuff and find an area that you would enjoy writing about or improving articles on. After all, that's why we're all here. OhKayeSierra (talk) 17:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi OhKayeSierra,
. I don't enjoy writing about things or creating articles. Instead, I want to review new articles and do anti-vandalism work and AFC. I have only been continuously involved since November 2019 (though I joined in July 2016). I'm not really sure I understand the purpose of LTA, so I will stop doing it. Do you suggest I blank the page? ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:49, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Also, I don't think that cleaning up vandalism can be classified as "administrative work". ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry. It took a bit longer for me to get back to this than I would've liked. Anyway, that's fair enough. I don't really have much more to add beyond what I've already said, so I'll simply suggest that you take your time to find a niche area that interests you and try to avoid getting the administrative stuff if you can. WP:GFYE is also worth a read. It's an advice essay meant for younger editors that explains the ins and outs of the project and the many standards of it.
- I do hope that you consider giving content creation a try. I certainly enjoyed handling anti-vandalism work and thought that it was the only aspect of Wikipedia I wanted to be involved in. I think that gaining experience in content creation would make you a better vandal fighter overall, and would give you a better understanding of the ins and outs of the project. I also suggest that you consider finding a mentor on the project. I wouldn't be the editor that I am today if I didn't have another editor that took an interest in me and encouraged me to get involved in more fulfilling aspects of the project.
- If you do change your mind, I encourage you to consider joining a WikiProject that interests you. And, if you're good at spelling and grammar, we could always use an extra hand at the Guild of Copy-Editors. Please feel free to shoot me a message if I can ever help you out in any way. OhKayeSierra (talk) 22:07, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi OhKayeSierra, thanks for the advice! Do you know where I could find a mentor? Thanks, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 22:21, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- By the way, I don't think the revert was on your phone. I don't see any "mobile edit" tags. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 22:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
My suggestion would be to read WP:MENTOR first, then seek out another editor that you respect and can learn from. Adopt-a-user is pretty much inactive and has been for the better part of a decade, but some of the users that were adopters are still active. Might be worth asking around. To answer your second point, I typically don't use the mobile site directly on my phone. Rather, I have my preferences set to redirect Wikipedia to the desktop site (since it's second nature for me to navigate it that way), so the mobile edit tag wouldn't show for edits like that. OhKayeSierra (talk) 05:03, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- OhKayeSierra, thanks for the advice. I will keep that in mind next time! ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 05:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- No worries! I wish I could suggest the editor that helped me get involved in copy-editing and content creation back in the day, but unfortunately, she hasn't edited since 2006. OhKayeSierra (talk) 05:09, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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11th Amendment
Sir, i'm sorry it took me some time to find how to reply. I had a comment recently deleted about the 11th Amendment that I am about correcting. Please let me correct it. I have to add citations and sources. Once this is done, you can review it. Thank you, John Milner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord Milner (talk • contribs) 17:58, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hello there Lord Milner, please review WP:NPOV and WP:CITE. You should provide sources for claims, and what you write should be neutral. Best, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:08, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about that revert...
...my finger hit rollback accidentally. Apologies again and thanks for helping to take care of that blanking vandal, hopefully someone blocks them soon. Aoi (青い) (talk) 00:30, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Aoi, no prob! Keep up the good work. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 00:31, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
July 2020
Hello, I'm Elizium23. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, List of religious slurs, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 20:07, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Elizium23:wp:DTTR I was handling a report at wp:EFFPR. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 20:26, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- Prahlad balaji, the WP:ONUS is on you to provide sources and comply with WP:V when adding material. By publishing it, you took responsibility for its deficiencies, so do not try to blame it on "handling a report". Elizium23 (talk) 20:47, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
elizium23 ok thx. I will provide sources. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:20, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker): Elizium23, for reference, see WP:DTR. Thanks, Thanoscar21talk, contribs 21:50, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanoscar21, I have completely non-binding essays too! WP:TTR Elizium23 (talk) 06:10, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Elizium23 and Thanoscar21: Ok, I will forget about this altogether. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 14:53, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Elizium23, no way!
Thanoscar21talk, contribs 21:32, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanoscar21, I have completely non-binding essays too! WP:TTR Elizium23 (talk) 06:10, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Public Oversight (United States)
Hi. I would like to bring this story back and edit it. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord Milner (talk • contribs) 08:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Lord Milner, please discuss with Malcolmxl5, the deleting administrator, first. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Talkbacks
Hi Prahlad. I noticed that you recently (1, 2) used {{talkback}}s on two registered users' talk pages. However, since you pinged them, talkbacks are unnecessary. Talkbacks should generally only be used (1) for IP users, for whom pings do not work, and (2) for registered users who have said that they prefer talkback messages over pings (if there are any; I don't know any myself). Best, --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:32, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ok Mdaniels5757, but how do we know if they have turned on pings? You can't turn off talkpage messages however. And for people like MusikAnimal, who edit ~every 3 days, the first thing they'll see is the "You have new messages" notification. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:34, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Prahlad balaji: I don't know of any users who have turned off pings, and neither MusikAnimal nor GeneralNotability have anything on their talks saying otherwise. If you're really concerned, turn on the "Failed mention" and/or "Successful mention" settings at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo. And sure, they'd see the "you have new messages" notification with a talk page message, but with a ping they'd still see the bell icon containing their notification (if your inquiry were important enough to need it to be the first thing they saw, perhaps a talk page message would be appropriate, but it really wasn't). Best, —Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:44, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Mdaniels5757 I know many users (like Materialscientst) who have turned off their pings. They don't always disclose it. Also, a "failed mention" doesn't come when I ping a user who has turned off their mentions, instead a "successful mention" (I did it right here for example). I did turn on the "failed mention" and "successful mention btw. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant Materialscientist. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Prahlad balaji: Huh, that shouldn't happen. Bug filed (phab:T258819). Mdaniels5757 (talk) 18:23, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Mdaniels5757, thanks. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:25, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your message
I just got your message, thank you very much! I am in the process of writing the "NeosVR" Wikipedia article, and being my first article I was hoping to hear some feedback from you. Feel free to let me know your thoughts! TheSaucyPizza (talk) 17:36, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- TheSaucyPizza, are you writing it in draftspace or mainspace? (does it have a prefix of
Draft:
before it?) ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:38, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Thought uncertain, I believe it is in the mainspace currently (as I do not see a Draft:
prefix. Here's a link to the article in question: NeosVR TheSaucyPizza (talk) 17:40, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- TheSaucyPizza, as it is in the mainspace, you might want to read WP:YFA, WP:Notability (video games), and WP:COI. If you are paid for your edits, then you should also disclose it. Regards, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:44, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
I'll be sure to look over those pages and append NeosVR accordingly. I am not being paid for my edits, though I have disclosed a COI in my bio and in the article's talk page. In the meantime, is there anything I can do improve the readability of the article? TheSaucyPizza (talk) 17:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
TheSaucyPizza, you might want to give the lead a few references. It is likely that a new page reviewer will review your work, and comment on it. Best, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:50, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
OK. So I understand you I should bolster the introductory paragraph with more references? TheSaucyPizza (talk) 17:56, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- TheSaucyPizza, yep, but not too much. 3 to 5 will do. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:58, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Done and done, thank you very much for your help! When will I know if a new page reviewer deems my work as suitable, if possible? TheSaucyPizza (talk) 18:26, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- TheSaucyPizza, I don't know. I am not a new page reviewer. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Prahlad balaji: You say above "
you might want to give the lead a few references
": please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section#Citations which explains that as everything in the lead should appear elsewhere in the article, properly cited, citations are not usually needed in the lead except to support potentially controversial point, especially in articles on living people. This article doesn't need to have any citations in its lead. As you say, you are not a New Page Reviewer. Please do not take it on yourself to instruct other editors in areas where you don't really know it all. Thanks. PamD 20:08, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- pamD Ok, but they were the ones asking for help. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 22:16, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Removing CSD tag to Five Points of Remonstrance
Before tagging any article for CSD, better check the edit history, the author moved the page and forgot to tag for G6, so it was never blanked. Regards Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 18:22, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Synoman Barris yes he did, please see [14] ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:25, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Deny
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I noticed that on User:Majawrs, you added some new CSD tags, one of which that stated "G5: sockpuppet of Wacky Wars". What me and other editors who have been consistently been dealing with these LTA accounts have been doing is the practice of denying recognition. This includes not mentioning any sort of reference to our friend Wacky Wars here. This includes no warnings, no edit summaries, no SPI tags, no nothing that can possibly give Wacky Wars any sort of recognition, as that is exactly what that guy wants. So in the future if you encounter any more of these sort of accounts, please note WP:DENY. Thanks! ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 04:32, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯, thanks. I won't be giving recognition to our friend (or should I say, fiend) anytime soon. Regards, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 04:34, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi!
Hi! Thank you for your recent AIV report. I'm not an admin, so I can't process it, but I'm sure that an admin will get to it in good time.
When I saw your report, I also noticed your signature.
I'm curious:
- Why does your signature include the words "This message was left at"?
- Why does the "T" link not link directly to your talk page?
Kind regards, —Unforgettableid (talk) 04:49, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Unforgettableid, thank you for your query. My "T" not linking directly to my talkpage comes from a time when I didn't substitute my signature page, but had the signature directly on the prefs. There was a character limit, and I didn't want to go above the limit, so I just linked it to my contact page. It has since stuck. As for the "This message was left at", I don't know, I just kind of like it. Cheers and best regards, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 04:53, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
A bucket of love!
Hii, I'm Sturdyankit, sorry for disturbing you but I wanna ask a general que. I saw your user page where you mentioned you're from California but your name seems like an Indian name, I know this's not an Imp que. but trust me im so curious and lil confused. Sturdyankit (chat) 05:11, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sturdyankit, thank you for your query! Yes, I'm from California but I'm of Indian ancestry. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:35, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Need Help
Can you help me to publish a Draft? Iamsouravrana (talk) 07:34, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Iamsouravrana, which draft are you talking about? ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:37, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Draft:Priya Shah This one, I have submitted the draft with relevant reference but I don't know why is Draft is declined! Iamsouravrana (talk) 15:53, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Iamsouravrana, the references must be reliable sources, and it looks like there aren't many. Please read wp:RS and make the references reliable sources. Thank you. Regards --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:25, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Usage of warnings
Hello!
Just a heads-up: You actually don't need to add a 4im warning after a level 4 warning. The 4im warnings are used as a first and only warning . Regards
Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 06:47, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Synoman Barris Thanks, I won't do it again. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 16:58, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- The Starter kit is now available for wiki communities. This page lists technical resources, tools, and recommendations. These are essential to operate a wiki project. This is mostly useful for smaller wikis where the community has limited experience with this. [15]
- The first features of the Desktop Improvements project are available for logged-in users on all wikis. In order to use them, uncheck Use Legacy Vector in your local or global preferences in section Skin preferences. More improvements are planned. Feedback is welcome.
On multiple wikis, a UTCLiveClock gadget is available. For wikis that import the gadget directly from mediawiki.org, end users can now choose a different timezone to show instead of UTC.
Problems
The deployment train for MediaWiki has been blocked this week. [16][17]
- Translation Notification Bot was sending the same message multiple times to every translator. This has been fixed. [18]
- Some users were receiving the same notification multiple times. This has been fixed. [19]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 29. It will be on all wikis from JUly 30 (calendar).
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13:52, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Use of rollback.
Please do not rollback my edits, like you did here, where there is no WP:VANDALISM which is what the rollback feature is for. There was no need to rollback my report (and then replace it with your own). Rollback is for vandalism. Kadzi (talk) 17:31, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Dr. Kadzi, I reverted your good-faith edit. The only reason that the rollback tag shows up is because I put a setting on my tool that makes it revert faster, whether good faith or not. Please see User_talk:GalaxyDog/Archive_1#Rollback granted and Wikipedia:RedWarn#A disclaimer regarding rollback for more info, thanks. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:35, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the message re the RedWarn. Even so, you shouldn't have removed my report. I put it there for administrator attention and it is not of good etiquette to remove something that I have put there for administrator attention, even if you feel the reason was incorrect (which it wasn't) Kadzi (talk) 17:40, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Dr. Kadzi, how is Alex a VOA? ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:41, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- My justification for reporting was not only that they were a VOA, if you read it here, as you can see I also wrote an actual justification. Whether or not it was or was not a VOA is inconsequential as it is up to an administrator to decide what the appropriate sanction / reason is for blocking - not you or I. Similarly to CSD, I could pick a plethora reasons but if one fits, the page is eligible for deletion. Kadzi (talk) 17:45, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Dr. Kadzi, how is Alex a VOA? ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:41, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the message re the RedWarn. Even so, you shouldn't have removed my report. I put it there for administrator attention and it is not of good etiquette to remove something that I have put there for administrator attention, even if you feel the reason was incorrect (which it wasn't) Kadzi (talk) 17:40, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks- New to Wiki
Thanks for your feedback. I'm "new new" to wifi and still learning. JSirius — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSirius (talk • contribs) 18:01, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- No problem! Feel free to ask me any questions. Best, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:03, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks !
Thank you it is me NinajgoKristian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjagokristian (talk • contribs) 18:22, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ninjagokristian, you're welcome! ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:24, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
how long have you been using Wikipedia?
- Ninjagokristian, for about 4 years now. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:27, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
nice I have been for 15 years Ninjagokristian
Sikandar Kher
Hi Prahalad, We are from Sikandar Kher's digital team and all these information are provided to us by himself only. So, please coordinated and help us with our work. Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnushkaDodeja (talk • contribs) 18:27, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi AnushkaDodeja, please see WP:COI. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:29, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, in case you find anything we editing and we don't have any reliable source, please write us on anushka.paperplanesmedia@gmail.com We are trying to put the right fact here. Please let us know, what mistakes you find we are doing here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnushkaDodeja (talk • contribs) 18:37, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
As we tried to mention earlier, we are from his team and we are just trying to put the right information and expect a little help & support from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnushkaDodeja (talk • contribs) 18:47, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- AnushkaDodeja, the mistake you are doing is writing about him in the first place. Please red WP:COI. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 19:05, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Shakulu Sons republished...
The article about the Shahkulu Sons you moved to drafts space today in the morning was shortly after republished as Shahkulu Sonsby the original author.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:25, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Paradise Chronicle, that's alright as long as it has sources. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 22:35, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Adoption
May I be adopted? I am interested in joining the CVU, but need to learn how to deal with vandalism first. Thanks! Hello world 6 (talk) 04:57, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hello world 6, Hello, Prahlad is on a wiki break, actually to join the CVUA, you must have 200 edits to mainspace. You must also have some experience in fighting vandalism. Currently you do not meet the above criteria hence it’s going to be hard to join the CVUA(depends on trainer). I suggest you start reading WP:V and start fighting vandalism to get some experience. Cheers Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 11:36, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Ok! Hello world 6 (talk) 23:45, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020).
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- There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
- Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
- Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
- There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.
The Signpost: 2 August 2020
- Special report: Wikipedia and the End of Open Collaboration?
- COI and paid editing: Some strange people edit Wikipedia for money
- News and notes: Abstract Wikipedia, a hoax, sex symbols, and a new admin
- In the media: Dog days gone bad
- Discussion report: Fox News, a flight of RfAs, and banning policy
- Featured content: Remembering Art, Valor, and Freedom
- Traffic report: Now for something completely different
- News from the WMF: New Chinese national security law in Hong Kong could limit the privacy of Wikipedia users
- Obituaries: Hasteur and Brian McNeil
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- All queries to the Wikidata Query Service failed between 17:50 and 17:59 UTC on Thursday 23 July. Some queries failed during a longer period. [20]
- Interlanguage links were ordered incorrectly for the past few weeks. This problem was also mentioned in Tech News two weeks ago. The problem is now fixed. [21]
- There is a problem with the global preferences for the "Use Legacy Vector" option. Developers are working on fixing it. [22]
- A bug in the Wikibase extension had disabled the "move" and "create" types of protection in the main (Gallery) namespace on Wikimedia Commons. New protections could not be added, and existing protections were not enforced, allowing some page moves and page creations that should not have been possible. This has now been fixed. [23]
Changes later this week
- The video player will change to be simpler and more modern. This week, the current beta feature will become the video player for everyone on most non-Wikipedia wikis. The old player will be removed. [24]
- Users'
global.js
andglobal.css
pages will now also be loaded on the mobile site. You can read documentation for how to avoid applying styles to the mobile skin. [25] In the MonoBook skin, the
searchGoButton
identifier is nowsearchButton
. This may affect CSS and JS gadgets. Migration instructions can be found in T255953. This was previously mentioned in issue 27.Bot operators can use Pywikibot to regularly archive discussions. The behavior when the bot uses
counter
to prevent large archives was changed. [26]The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 5. It will be on all wikis from August 6 (calendar).
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15:43, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
How to fix Orphan Issue In Article
Hey,
Thank you for helping out with the draft that I am currently working on (Book Bunk Trust). I have seen your Orphan tag. I have fixed it. Care to check if I did the correct thing? Have a good one. JW254 (talk) 07:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- @JW254: Prahlad balaji appears to be on sabbatical. I have removed the orphan tag, since you did add links to that article in other articles. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:14, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Marvel Animated Universe
Can you revert back the Marvel Animated Universe page because it's confirmed they are official.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- FileImporter and FileExporter became standard features on all Wikis during the first week of August. They help you transfer files from local wikis to Wikimedia Commons with the original file information and history intact. [27]
Problems
- The mobile skin displays a message at the bottom of the page about who edited last. This message showed raw wikitext. This has now been fixed. Some messages in Structured Discussions and content translation may still appear as raw wikitext. Developers are working on it. [28]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 12. It will be on all wikis from August 13 (calendar).
Future changes
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [29][30]
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16:06, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- If you revert an edit using the undo link your edit is marked with an
undo
tag. This will now only happen if you don't change anything in the edit window before publishing the undo. This is to keep users from marking edits as undos when they actually do something else. [31] - The new OOUI version will not work with Internet Explorer 8. This means the wikis will look strange and not work well in Internet Explorer 8. This was reported in Tech/News/2020/17. This is because keeping the wikis working with very old browsers creates other problems. [32]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 August. It will be on all wikis from 20 August (calendar).
Future changes
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis next week. This is a reminder. You can help by translating the announcement message. [33][34]
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20:40, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Join the RfC to define trust levels for WikiLoop DoubleCheck
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Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 August. It will be on all wikis from 27 August (calendar).
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The Signpost: 30 August 2020
- News and notes: The high road and the low road
- In the media: Storytelling large and small
- Featured content: Going for the goal
- Special report: Wikipedia's not so little sister is finding its own way
- Op-Ed: The longest-running hoax
- Traffic report: Heart, soul, umbrellas, and politics
- News from the WMF: Fourteen things we’ve learned by moving Polish Wikimedia conference online
- Recent research: Detecting spam, and pages to protect; non-anonymous editors signal their intelligence with high-quality articles
- Arbitration report: A slow couple of months
- From the archives: Wikipedia for promotional purposes?
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Regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 12:12, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi TryKid, I'm on mobile currently, and for whatever reason my email there doesn't work properly, so pls give me a few hours to respond. Thanks, ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 12:38, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Back?
Are you back from the wikibreak? MaxandRubyPeppaBlueyCuriousGeorgeFan2.0 (talk) 14:46, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- @MaxandRubyPeppaBlueyCuriousGeorgeFan2.0: (what a mouthful) yes I am. Whoo! ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:19, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me. MaxandRubyPeppaBlueyCuriousGeorgeFan2.0 (talk) 15:42, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
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News and updates associated with user scripts from the past two months (July and August 2020).
Hello everyone and welcome to the 17th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:
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Stay safe --DannyS712 (talk) 19:42, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- This is a reminder. All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC. Please check on the details on the announcement message. [35][36]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
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20:08, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020).
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- Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
- A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors
must
orshould
use the articles for creation process. - A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.
- A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
- An open request for comment asks whether active Arbitrators may serve on the Trust and Safety Case Review Committee or Ombudsman commission.
Luís Henrique Ferreira de Aguiar
Thank you for your message. I did not have the time yesterday to add the references. This is now done. Please return the article to mainspace. Also, if you wish to assist, please let me know how to add interwikis (it's been a while since I last edited here and I see things have changed - especially abruptly deleting and moving new articles to drafts). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabbhh (talk • contribs) 22:28, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Gabbhh,
Done by PamD (talk · contribs · count). --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 23:06, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Help
Sir, I'm just a beginner, i don't know how to add sources. If can help me I will do my best. Could you pls guide me. Mehboob Nambrath (talk) 04:02, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Mehboob Nambrath, which article are you talking about? ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 05:55, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
False positive report
I had left a false positive report for filters, here:
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives/Reports#Twawc
I don't understand your answer. Do you mean that the edits aren't NPOV? How so? The President of a country insulted multiple people on Twitter, and I simply translated what he said. The article on Jair Bolsonaro has extensive sections about how he denigrates people, and they're all properly translated.
I find it fascinating that Wikipedia's bots block the very words of a President, because even the bots realize how rude they are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twawc (talk • contribs) 16:36, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Twawc "Fernández is known for his rude, aggressive behavior towards people with opposing viewpoints." is considered in violation of NPOV. Hope this answers your question. Best regards, --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:44, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, that can be interpreted as non-NPOV. However, the translations should stay. Look at my second attempt to add the translations, and you'll see that this sentence is missing.Twawc (talk) 07:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- Twawc sure, as soon as I get off my mobile. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 07:30, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Done --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:55, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Citation
You stated I added content with no citation, however I included citation to an article in The Times including direct quotes from the person in question, so I will reinstate it.
- @RedFordCorrect: See WP:Perennial sources. --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:40, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
OK, I see the Daily Mail is included as an unreliable source, but the reference was to a quote in that publication and you also removed all my edits not just that one. Will reinstate and remove the Daily Mail one - for now. RedFordCorrect (talk) 21:53, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- @RedFordCorrect: Ok, thanks for the reply. Wishing you the best! --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:54, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Taxonomy templates for species
Hi, taxonomy templates for species, such as Template:Taxonomy/Corynabutilon vitifolium, are almost always unnecessary. {{Speciesbox}} picks up the taxonomy from the genus name. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Peter coxhead, ok. Thanks ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:47, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Talk about coincidences
Great minds think alike, huh? Abductive (reasoning) 14:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
September 2020
I received a similar notice on Creighton Preparatory Schools when editing but had difficulty ascertaining which source was classified as unreliable. If it was the Good Morning America article then I can easily replace it with something different. The other two sources I use very frequently in WP:Nebraska so I can't see that being the issue. I was just wondering if there was something obvious I was missing. Etriusus (talk) 23:26, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Etriusus ok, please make sure to read WP:Perennial sources --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 23:26, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Regardin' your edit
Thanks for your decent appreciation. You made my day. SHISHIR DUA 03:59, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- SHISHIR DUA, no worries! Cheers, --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 04:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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AfD Discussion
Hi Prahlad, while searching for sources for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dpvipracollege.in I found another article on WP that was simliar, DP Vipra College, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh. After consulting with an admin, they suggested that I WP:BUNDLE the article I found into the AfD you created. Let me know if you want me to reverse the bundle. Happy editing! Z1720 (talk) 01:51, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- Z1720 sure, as soon as I get on my computer. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 01:54, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- I've already bundled it, so I don't think you need to do anything else :) Z1720 (talk) 02:03, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Lance Wilder
Hello Prahlad balaji. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Lance Wilder, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G4: Not substantially the same as the deleted version. Thank you. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:45, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Support aspired
Hi guy profound greetings, This time I appeal for your support. Can you do so on [42]. I may nominate you as well if you wish.
Regards,
SHISHIR DUA 17:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- SHISHIR DUA, I have voted support. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 22:47, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. SHISHIR DUA 04:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Shahoodu: Are you aware that this is WP:CANVASSING which is best avoided? Are you aware that this user has WP:CIR, hat collecting, and flirting issues with girls? (pinging:User:Usernamekiran). Bingobro (Chat) 05:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Bingobro: Hi. I think Shahoodu are fairly unaware of most of the policies, and that they are acting in good faith. But Prahlad balaji are certainly not inexperienced user, and they should be aware of canvassing. —usernamekiran (talk) 05:55, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Usernamekiran: Yup, Shahoodu even clarified on my talk page. Prahlad on the other hand was surprising because he is more experienced and should have taken the CIR and HATC issues more seriously and been aware of canvassing. Bingobro (Chat) 06:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bingobro and Usernamekiran don't get me wrong. I knew this guy for a bit and wanted to voice my opinions. He knows me, so it's not surprising that someone would ask me for help. But him asking you people is surprising. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 06:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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- @Shahoodu: Are you aware that this is WP:CANVASSING which is best avoided? Are you aware that this user has WP:CIR, hat collecting, and flirting issues with girls? (pinging:User:Usernamekiran). Bingobro (Chat) 05:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Bingobro: Hi. I think Shahoodu are fairly unaware of most of the policies, and that they are acting in good faith. But Prahlad balaji are certainly not inexperienced user, and they should be aware of canvassing. —usernamekiran (talk) 05:55, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Usernamekiran: Yup, Shahoodu even clarified on my talk page. Prahlad on the other hand was surprising because he is more experienced and should have taken the CIR and HATC issues more seriously and been aware of canvassing. Bingobro (Chat) 06:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bingobro and Usernamekiran don't get me wrong. I knew this guy for a bit and wanted to voice my opinions. He knows me, so it's not surprising that someone would ask me for help. But him asking you people is surprising. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 06:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Just want to say that apart from hat collecting and CIR, his work on sports is generally good. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 06:45, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- No one has anything against Shishir's work (which is probably good in its own right), its just that HATC (and the way they word their PERM requests), CIR, canvassing, flirting (calling a user "bae" and asking another for their contacts), removing someones opinion on their nomination page, and I want to be a sysop desperately mentality is greatly overshadowing their work. Bingobro (Chat) 06:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Just want to say that apart from hat collecting and CIR, his work on sports is generally good. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 06:45, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bingobro and Usernamekiran don't get me wrong. I knew this guy for a bit and wanted to voice my opinions. He knows me, so it's not surprising that someone would ask me for help. But him asking you people is surprising. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 06:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bingobro we are all bad in some way, and this is his. I appreciate Shishir's work to an extent, and I support him for that. What is wrong here? ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 06:55, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Prahlad, there's nothing wrong with you supporting him or knowing him. I'm certainly not asking you to change your opinion on the giveaway page. It's just that the canvassing needed to be addressed and the community/WMF should probably not be giving out merchandise to someone who can't take criticism and act kinda weird with others. Bingobro (Chat) 07:08, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bingobro we are all bad in some way, and this is his. I appreciate Shishir's work to an extent, and I support him for that. What is wrong here? ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 06:55, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bingobro I agree with you and respect your opinion; however I will still keep my vote. Regards ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 07:12, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Certainly you may keep your !vote after all it's yours. Happy editing! Bingobro (Chat) 07:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bingobro I agree with you and respect your opinion; however I will still keep my vote. Regards ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 07:12, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
DMEM
Dear Prahlad balaji
I'm wondering how can I improve the attendance of the wiki page on the "Discrete Macro-Element Method (DMEM)"? In particular it's necessary to modify the list of references in order to be verified by the relative links?
Thank you in advance for your consideration
Best regards Davide Rapicavoli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daviderapicavoli (talk • contribs) 18:12, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Daviderapicavoli, refer to the decline message. There's really nothing more to it than that. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 22:47, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Unblock request
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Request reason:
I was blocked by Sro23 for edit warring, and I am sorry that I was edit-warring. I read the policies and promise not to do it again. I have read WP:3RRNO and 3rr. I understand what i was blocked for (warring with an ip over what content should be in the lead). I am very sorry for what I did. Had I read 3rr policies (I made like 10 reverts according to sro) I would not be here. I understand what I have been blocked for, and promise not to do it again. Thanks for your consideration. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 06:02, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You are only partially blocked; you can still edit the talk page. You should post in Talk:Ecce_Homo_(Martínez_and_Giménez,_Borja)#Put_opening_in_past_tense and try to establish a consensus. PhilKnight (talk) 11:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Prahlad balaji, I have lifted your block as no longer necessary, given the current page protection status due to block-evading IP's. Sro23 (talk) 22:55, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Clerking the permissions noticeboard
You were told previously by Nick to stop clerking the permissions noticeboards, but I see you've started doing that again. Please stop. This is not an area where we need non-admin clerks. GeneralNotability (talk) 13:03, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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