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Request on 20:28:01, 14 October 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by FranceRivet

• FranceRivet (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Samuel Metcalfe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello SafariScribe,

On August 1st, you declined the article proposed for Draft:Samuel Metcalfe, an Inuk from Nunatsiavut, Canada, on the basis that you considered the sources to be unreliable and that we did not prove that Sam was worth having his own page on Wikipedia. I must admit that your refusal was not only disappointing, it was received as an insult. We’ve let the dust settle for a couple of months and have decided that time has now come to engage into discussions on how the article can be improved. Based on your Wikipedia profile, we understand that you are located in Nigeria and, most likely, have very little or no knowledge of the realities of Canada’s First Peoples, including the Labrador Inuit, Sam’s group of origin. When the time comes, I’ll give you more background information but, for now, let’s clarify your issue with the reliability of the sources.

Of the 34 sources listed in the article,

• 13 are articles published in respected magazines such as Inuktitut Magazine (the official publication of Canada’s National Inuit organization which has been published for over 60 years), Etudes/Inuit/Studies (one of the most important scholar publications on everything Inuit published by Université Laval in Québec City), Atuaqnik (a newspaper published by the Inuit community of Northern Quebec, now called Nunavik), Circuit (the magazine published by the Order of translators, terminologists and interpreters of the province of Quebec), Kinatuinamut Ilingajuk (a Labrador periodical published in Nain by the Labrador Inuit Association), and Polar Record (A Journal of Arctic and Antarctic Research published in Copenhagen).
• 6 are articles published in newspapers such as The Ottawa Citizen (Canada’s Capital daily newspaper) and The Telegram (the daily newspaper of the city of St. John’s, the capital of the province of Newfoundland-and-Labrador).
• 1 is from a book published by the Université du Québec à Montréal.
• 1 is from a thesis from Memorial University in St. John’s, Newfoundland-and-Labrador.
• 1 is from a publication by the Nunatsiavut Government.
• 1 is from a census record
• 5 are from the Labrador Institute Archive Finding Aid.
• 6 are from letters, certificates and id cards issued by third parties and are held in Sam’s personal archives.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t understand how the sources referencing magazines, newspapers, books, theses, census records or governmental publications can be seen as unreliable. Am I right that your issue is with the materials we have included that come from Sam’s personal archives? These letters, certificates and id cards were issued by external/independent organizations, but if I understand correctly, the fact that they do not correspond to material published in a publicly available source makes them unsuitable for Wikipedia. By any chance, if we were to upload photos of some of these certificates/id cards would the references now be accepted since the visual proof is provided?

For the references from the Labrador Institute Archive Finding Aid, 4 of the 5 references refer to TV or radio programs produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (Canada’s national radio and TV broadcaster) or the OkalaKatiget Society (a non-profit society dedicated to preserving and promoting the language and culture of the Inuit within Nunatsiavut through radio and television programming). These are therefore productions that were once publicly broadcast and copies of the programs are now held at the archives. Why wouldn’t they be suitable?

The remaining reference taken from the Labrador Institute Archive Finding Aid is a statement that Sam translated a book from Inuttitut to English. The reference is not a published document, but the book that Sam translated is. If this reference is not suitable, I presume that we have to get a copy of the published book and see if Sam’s name is mentioned as being the translator. That would become the new reference. Is this correct?

I think you have enough questions for now. We look forward to hearing back from you. Once we receive your answers, we’ll proceed with making the first set of changes to the article. We can tackle the notability issue afterwards. Thank you for your time and help. FranceRivet (talk) 20:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

@FranceRivet, I'm so sorry that you and your group received the decline as an insult. However, it does but not necessarily important that someone must be knowledgeable about a subject before dealing with its notability. Wikipedia has already provided policies and guidelines, and those we use to judge a draft. While I wouldn't go into giving you my source analysis, I also received this your message as disappointed as, and since you have a group, maybe I should tell you what to do next: disclose your relationship with what you've written e.g are you related to the person, are you the person even? The rule is at WP:COI. Also, don't insult others irrespective of their background as it would inflict WP:CIVILITY. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 03:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

@SafariScribe,

Thank you for taking the time to reply. My intentions were never to blame or insult anyone. I wanted to express how the refusal was received at this end. What I’m seeing is that Wikipedia’s process to decline an article lacks sensitivity. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the reviewer simply selects the reason(s) for declining and an automated message gets sent. At the other end, it’s a real person who receives it. Someone who’s worked hard and with good intentions, for weeks, if not months. If reviewers could at least write a sentence or two to establish a real contact with the submitter, to provide some personal insight on their analysis, the refusal would most likely not be received as a slap in the face.

Now, to answer your question, I am not related to Sam Metcalfe. For over 13 years, I have been doing historical research about Labrador Inuit. I am the one who found the remains of Abraham Ulrikab, a Labrador Inuk who was exhibited in Europe’s human zoos in the 19^th century, and I initiated the research which led to a commemorative plaque being installed for Lance Corporal John Shiwak, a WWI Inuk sniper killed in France. I have been making sure that the Wikipedia pages of these two men are accurate. I have also written articles related to the Labrador Inuit for the Canadian Encyclopedia. Some of these articles are being used as references for Wikipedia pages. I recently updated one of the Wikipedia pages to provide the actual sources rather than seeing my text in the Canadian Encyclopedia being quoted as the source. I am an independent and volunteer researcher who takes it at heart to help the Labrador Inuit especially when historical research needs to be done in French language sources. So, when Sam’s widow told me the story of her late husband, I suggested that an article about him would be appropriate for Wikipedia. We worked for a few months to gather documentation. The Inuit culture being based on oral history, they don’t have centuries of published material. FYI, there are a little over 2000 people living in what is known today as Nunatsiavut. The 5 communities are isolated with no road connection between them, no hospitals, no daily newspaper, no colleges or universities and decades of trauma caused by the way they were treated by non-Inuit. Since the 18^th century, the Labrador Inuit have been dominated by Moravian missionaries and then, by the Newfoundland and Canadian governments who created the Indian Residential School system  “to isolate Indigenous children from the influence of their own culture and religion in order to assimilate them into the dominant Euro-Canadian culture.” Sam was a survivor of this system. He was one of a handful of Labrador Inuit who were the very first generation to fight for the right to regain their culture and work towards self-determination. Their work led to the Nunatsiavut Government being created in 2005 only 20 years ago! Sam may not have made the front page of major Southern newspapers, but he worked hard to better the life of his people and of future generations of Labrador Inuit. He was heavily involved in developing the very first dictionary for the Labrador dialect of Inuktitut. The language had almost disappeared in Nunatsiavut. Sam’s efforts contributed to the enthusiasm we see today in the younger generations to start learning their native language. Sam was also involved in the political side of things. He created the first city council in Nain and became the first mayor. He was a role model in his community.

One of the challenges the Labrador Inuit community face when it comes to historical research, on top of their culture being based on oral history, is that the building which housed their archives, radio and TV station burned down in 2005. You can imagine how devastating that was to lose so many important historical documents. The documents attesting to Sam’s role in setting up the very first city council and him being the first mayor most likely vanished in that fire. When we worked on the article, in many cases, the only tangible proofs we found were the documents that Sam had kept in his own archives. We did not include anything from his personal diary. We understand that this is not allowed.

I saw in Sam’s Wikipedia page a wonderful opportunity to help ensure that a wider variety of Labrador Inuit’s role models is covered in the “Category:Inuit from Newfoundland and Labrador” Wikipedia page. At present, if you look at that page, 14 of the 25 or so people on the list are politicians and 7 are people from the 17^th to 19^th centuries who have been the subject of research by non-Inuit. Aren’t Labrador Inuit who have contributed to their community in roles other than political ones also deserve to be included? They may have been working behind the scenes and may not have received as much press coverage, but their contributions are important. Many of the people featured in that category have a very short biography with few references. Some are just stubs that have yet to be improved. It is difficult to understand why these entries were allowed and Sam isn't. The fact that we were able to find over 30 references in a variety of sources was quite a feat.

I hope that these explanations answer your concerns and provide you with a better understanding of the Labrador Inuit’s realities. I may not have succeeded in explaining the importance of Sam’s various roles, but I am willing to see how the text can be improved. To do that, I need to better understand where you see the issues. In case you are wondering, I fully wrote the article. Sam’s widow was a great help in gathering the documentation and I asked her and her family to review it to ensure that I had not made any mistakes. Other than typos, no one requested changes. Because I am non-Inuit, I make sure to ask the advice of someone from the Inuit community when I write about a subject related to them. It is a question of respect, and it has worked very well for the last 13 years!

Thanks again for your time and help. FranceRivet (talk) 23:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

These people are running a rejection mafia. I am sorry about how you feel AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 18:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Daniel Vorcaro

A month ago we talked about an article I wrote. I am a paid contributor. I'm trying to follow all the guidelines and you helped me with that. I added some part to make it more impartial, talking about criticism. This article has already been previously approved by @Qcne. Can you check and see if you can exit drafts again?

Question from Alex.Dybala (23:35, 21 October 2024)

Hi, I was trying to add another song to an artist discography for their upcoming playlist, but I can't format the title like the rest of the songs. It's at https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Deco*27#Singles and at the bottom. I found how to merge cells but I can't move the title ["Neverland"] underneath the 2nd most recent with the same font, same lining etc. Much appreciated :) --Alex.Dybala (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Alex, has the problem be taken care of? If not revert yourself, show me what you want to add, and you will see how it is done. I couldn't find what you're asking on the page. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 14:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

So I was trying to fix it via visual editing but it wouldnt let me add ! scope="row" through it. So I moved to source to add "! scope="row" | "Neverland" as well as move the |} down one row for the table. That didnt work, so I changed the | rowspan="4"| 2024 to "5" and | rowspan="8"| ''Transform'' to "9". Thanks for your help! :D Alex.Dybala (talk) 23:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from avjjj (11:47, 22 October 2024)

Hello, I could really use some help with this article: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Tropical_Strays. It has been rejected twice now for not having enough reliable sources, and this is quite frustrating as I am a biologist just trying to get the information about this well documented phenomenon out on the internet. I've cited 12 sources, from all sorts of places such as NASA, various news outlets, government websites, the Linnean Society, etc, and I just don't know what else I can add. I think I have cited all of the reputable sources of information on this topic that exist. How else can I improve the article so that it can be published? I understand Wikipedia's desire for purely cited information, so I tried to edit the article down to just the information that is found at my sources, even though as a professional working with these tropical strays I have much more common knowledge than the cited sources offer. I don't believe there exists more information from credible sources out there right now, so I just don't know what to change after the latest rejection of the article. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

I will look at it later. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 03:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello, did you ever get around to looking at this? Avjjj (talk) 16:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Create an article

Hi @SafariScribe I was trying to create an article for Draft:All American (TV series) season 2, Draft:All American (TV series) season 3, Draft:All American (TV series) season 4, Draft:All American (TV series) season 5, and Draft:All American (TV series) season 6 and it keeps been declined can you please look into it and try to make adjustments to creating an article for All American (TV series) season 2, All American (TV series) season 3, All American (TV series) season 4, All American (TV series) season 5, and All American (TV series) season 6, please thank you. 82.46.25.83 (talk) 11:39, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

All the season articles failed WP:GNG and WP:NFTV. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Archive 39#Season article notability. The IP address is trying to game the system repeatedly. — YoungForever^(talk) 22:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from WPF2024 (17:13, 23 October 2024)

Hello Safari Scribe! Thank you for your willingness to help!

I've just spent some time reviewing the resources on conflict of interest and terms of use, but I'd love to double check I have everything straight since I already started editing before understanding the rules!

I'm a grad student working as the comms assistant for a research program affiliated with my school. I'd like to update the wiki pages for the program and our director, because the information is a bit out of date.

I believe I can do this if I disclose on my editing page that I work for the program and I can ask an independent editor to review the piece for bias before I publish. Is there anything else I should know or do? Thank you! --WPF2024 (talk) 17:14, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Great. You can read Wikipedia:COIEDIT also. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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Is there any chance that your name used to be "Saqib"? Indianx123 (talk) 09:53, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Matlock pipe changes

Bummed you beat me to finish them but still nice job. Thank you for helping with those Disambiguation links. RCSCott91 (talk) 16:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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Fazle Hasan Shishir

You previously AFD'd this article. It was soft deleted, but it has come back. You may want to give this an eyeball and consider re-AFD'ing it. Cheers! - UtherSRG (talk) 21:52, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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WP:AFC/R - possible incomplete edit?

Hello! Hope you're doing well.

I noticed that you accepted many requests at WP:AFC/R but didn't leave an acceptance note on the page - I've fixed the easy bits. If you could look over the Blue Origin-related requests again and complete those requests, that would be great. Thanks so much for your help. Cheers. LR.127 (talk) 00:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Elen Smile

Please explain why the Elen Smile page was rejected again after revision? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Elen_Smile

I am thoroughly familiar with the guidelines and followed them carefully, double-checking all sources, which are reliable. What’s wrong? Please help. M.krakovets (talk) 21:53, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

I think you didn't read the decline message box. Please do before coming here since you claim to know the guidelines. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 23:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

The question of using YouTube links still needs clarification and discussion. Personally, I consider them a reliable source since they come from the official channels of TV networks and shows on YouTube. M.krakovets (talk) 17:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

YouTube links from a news channel is considered reliable, but you need to know how notabikity works. We dont base everything on the amount of sources presented instead we use certain SNGs to determine notability; contents would then require a reliable source for verification. Looking at your draft about a musician, it is expected to meet WP:NMUSICIAN. The discography section is completely unsorted, and we would want to see reviews of the songs by reliable sources. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

1. Could you clarify if reviews or critiques are needed for all the songs listed, or just a selection of them?

2. Are there any other issues with the article? I'd like to address everything at once. M.krakovets (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Instruction about the sources and references is mind-boggling

Hi @SafariScribe,

Thanks for your recent review of my article on the Belarusian Sport Solidarity Foundation: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Belarusian_Sport_Solidarity_Foundation

Here's your feedback: "This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are: in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements), reliable, secondary, strictly independent of the subject.

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

I supplied 64 different references and links, including those from Reuters, Deutsche Welle, The Guardian, Inside the Games, the U.S. Department of State, etc. They could not possibly be more in-depth, reliable, secondary, and strictly independent of the subject.

Please, be so kind as to specify which particular links do not meet the criteria and how to remedy that. The article reads as a neutral, matter-of-fact material supported by existing references from reputable sources. Hopefully, we will be able to finally publish it after your constructive input.

Thank you. Artrage (talk) 11:32, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

@Artrage (talk page watcher) it seems that you feel strongly about this. Before you take the reviewer to task please double check that:

• Each of your 64 references is about the subject of the draft
• Each of your 64 references is significant ccoverage of the subject of the draft
• Each of your 64 references is independent of the subject of the draft
• Each of your 64 references is in a reliable source

Once you have done that please tell us so, and then, if appropriate, ask your question again. However, please use a less strident tone. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:39, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Dear @Timtrent, thank you for your message.

Indeed, I have checked all the links, hence my surprise - and the submission of a kind request to specify which of them seem not to adhere to the eligibility criteria.

I believe the reputability of the likes of Reuters and Deutsche Welle is beyond doubt.

Perhaps, the reviewer is not entirely familiar with lesser known but equally reliable non-English language sources referenced in the draft.

True, I do feel strongly about the article. It has been rewritten several times to match the stylistic criteria. And now we are talking about the references with no specific details mentioned.

I would be most grateful to the reviewer for a more precise overview with regard to the references, as well as for further advice should some of them happen not to match the criteria.

Thank you as always. Artrage (talk) 12:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

@Artrage It may surprise you to learn that Reuters is not always a reliable source. It depends upon context. I choose Reuters as an example. Sometimes Reuters creates articles. This is when, generally, it is reliable. At other times it acts as a news aggregator, republishing the articles of others. This is when it is not reliable.

All news media receive and carry press releases. It is how they carry them that is important. If they create articles based upon them, with true editorial oversight, they are reliable. If they regurgitate press releases then they are not.

I am saying all of this without looking at any of your references. My intention is to give general information, not to get bogged down with specifics. I hope you see where I am coming from.

I will take a look at a sample of your references soon. I'll let you know my opinion. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

@Artrage The following references are deprecated sources and should be removed:

• Twitter
• Instagram
• LinkedIn

Additionally I examined a small addition random sample:

• https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jul/22/our-consciences-were-clear-belarus-players-taking-stand-against-a-dictator - I am finding it hard to see how this verifies "resulting in over 100 athletes receiving fines, dismissals from their positions, or incarceration"
• https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1103273/calls-for-belarus-to-lose-uipm-worlds - I judge this to be a PR piece
• https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/belarus-sentences-absentia-former-olympian-herasimenia-12-years-prison-belta-2022-12-27/ - is not about Belarusian Sport Solidarity Foundation but mentions it in passing. It majors on the unfair sentencing of two people.

This is the type of analysis that I believe you should be doing. You need to be very selective about what you reference. I believe you have written what you wanted to say and found references to fit, or almost fit. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:32, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Article "Nigel Sparks" rejected

Hi, you have just rejected my article about a notable individual here in Malaysia. Nigel currently has 98.9k followers on IG and 543.8k followers in TikTok as I write this response. He is very much of notable reputation especially here in Malaysia. I have seen articles on wikipedia about individuals with a much smaller following and much smaller impact on a nation's culture. Are you able to clarify by which metric you are using to decide the inclusion of this on Wikipedia, as I cannot see why this article about a person with a cult following and is having a strong impact on Malaysian culture is deemed "insufficiently notable". Kartunbear (talk) 01:33, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Kartunbear, having many followers doesn't determine notability. We use the WP WP:GNG to check if a draft should be moved to mainspace. There should be reliable sources to support anything you write here because we are May not know about the person, but the sources should/must know. For the entertainer, you may need to check WP:ENT, as well as avoid using WP:PEACOCK terms when writing. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Draft:The Answer Studio

Hello. Thanks for suggestions. I want to clarify that I am not related to company. I have used Anime News Network as source mutiple times because it is considered a reliable entertainment website in anime community and is used in multiple articles as sources. Additionaly, I fixed references by adding additional third party as well as sources from company itself. Request to recheck the article if it can be submitted now. Thank You. Coolduckbird (talk) 07:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

We dont need citations to the film, we want sources that tells us about the film and how it was produced including the works of the producing company. Here the studio enters. I hope you do understood? Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

The article I made is about the films and tv series made by The Answer Studio. Detailed information of the films as wiki pages are not yet available because not enough articles are made since they are not very famous and most of them are catered towards kids. Although Imdb pages are availabe but it is not a reliable source. I think they are notable enough because they have significant coverage,WP:NEXIST. When other animation studios like Wit Studio started, initially they had just Attack on Titan, but it was notable enough to be made an article of the company. Thank you. Coolduckbird (talk) 11:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestions, I have improved the draft. Coolduckbird (talk) 05:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello @SafariScribe, could you plz check if the draft is better now? Coolduckbird (talk) 08:50, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

List of Indian state fishes

Hi, you accepted List of Indian state fishes from draft to mainspace, but none of the sources in the article seem to verify the contents, and I can't easily verify online that e.g. Puducherry has a state fish at all. Other states seem to have a state fish, and while many match this official list, many others are different. Fram (talk) 10:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Fram, I believe that the article is important and atleast there are sources supporting some as well as being in line with the AFC standards. You know this is a work in progress, sources could still be found, and those I have left for an NPPer to do, if possible, before marking as patrolled. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Er, can you point to one source in the article supporting the list of state fishes? Fram (talk) 10:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Even if we don't have, I still research about a topic before declining or accepting. This article and PDF was a bit enough for me to accept the draft. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:58, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Completely irresponsible to put an article in the mainspace with no sources about the subject and with many obvious errors when compared to the sources which exist. I have redraftified it, please don't put things like this in the mainspace in the future. Fram (talk) 11:06, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:04, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

I also note things like this decline, which seems to be completely incorrect, as noted by the submitter. Perhaps you had a good reason to decline it, but the one given is nonsensical when compared to the draft. Something like Draft:Demissie Bulto has much more right to be an article than the list of state fishes, it is about a clearly notable subject and would easily survive AfD, and the sources are about him. Why you think Draft:Geology of Berkshire is not sufficient for a stand-alone article but needs to be merged into an article of already 60K isn't clear. Draft:Antoni Wodziński: I have no idea why you declined it, well-sourced and seems obviously notable. Draft:Andrew I. Schafer: apparently the sources didn't allow you to verify the claims? Strange, the sources seem perfectly adequate for that task. If you had another reason to decline it, then state it, because this will leave the submitter either baffled at best or disgusted by the whole process at worst.

That's five very dubious declines, and I only checked 1 1/2 hours from your AfC work from today. While that work is very valuable, it can also be very WP:BITEy and needs to be done with care, not gatekeeping apparently correct articles on notable subjects and with multiple sources about the subject because of some minor or imagined issues.

Please slow down with your AfC reviewing and be less ready to decline, or give better, actionable reasons for your declines. Fram (talk) 16:41, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the corrections, and I have accepted all the drafts you've listed above. I would tell you that I believe in godly criticisms, and that, I follow the AFCSTANDARDS. However, I quickly undo my edits when it becomes objectionable, and try as possible to assimilate the new knowledge. Peace be with you! Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:10, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Slow down. I am not interested in you accepting the ones above if you then decline Draft:Marcin Gwóźdź. Fram (talk) 17:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

No problem. If you still have time, you can fish out more from the AFC log. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

On the contrary, it is a big problem. If you don't change your approach, I'll raise this at WP:ANI and you will probably lose your reviewer rights. You are "reviewing" way too fast, which leads to declining a Polish Member of Parliament as "Doesn't meet WP:NPOL." Your error rate is way too high. Fram (talk) 17:33, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Are you threatening with ANI? I complimented you and took feedbacks. Is there any other issue? Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't care about compliments, and yes, I rather clearly threatened you with ANI, because you didn't take the feedback to heart, but continued to make the same kind of error after the previous issues were pointed out. Fram (talk) 17:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

@Fram I suggest bringing it up at AfC, highlighting some of the issues you have found and request some additional re-reviews. More hands make lighter work. While such requests do not happen often, they do happen when reviewers/editors see problems with another reviewers work and the AfC pseudo-perm has certainly been removed based on the findings. Up to you, of course, as ANI is also appropriate. S0091 (talk) 17:41, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I usually bring such things to ANI as it takes admins to change user rights. But if it turns out that these problems have been going on for much longer than today (and judging from the above I would be surprised if this is a new issue), then AfC is the right place to ask people to go through their old declines (and accepts perhaps) and re-review them. Fram (talk) 17:44, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Primefac, asilvering and other admins are active at AfC and keep an eye on the talk page so having an admin review and take necessary actions (if any) should not be an issue if that is the main reason you prefer ANI. There may be other reasons you prefer ANI, which is fine and no need to explain them. S0091 (talk) 17:56, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Apparently, we can also be summoned by certain edit summaries... Fram, please do take this up at AfC. We've been really excited to get the backlog down to a much less soul-destroying wait, but if too many are being declined when they shouldn't be, that hardly makes the process better from the newbie perspective. SafariScribe, I really appreciate how much effort you've been putting into this, but please do slow down!

@Fram, just checking that you know that you can resubmit improperly declined drafts on behalf of the original submitter if you use the AFCH script? -- asilvering (talk) 18:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

I've only activated the script today and used it once to decline one draft, so no, I'm not up to speed with all its possibilities yet. Thanks, that may come in handy, but obviously I prefer if no mess is made instead of cleaning up someone else's mess ("mess" as in making too many errors, not the inevitable occasional one). Fram (talk) 18:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that would of course be the ideal. Once an error has happened, though (or even if you think it's not an "error" exactly, but you disagree with a decline), if you immediately reverse it with a submit-and-accept, then the submitter at least gets their article into mainspace without further bother on their part. Thanks again for pointing out the issues you noted above. -- asilvering (talk) 19:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

@Fram, alright. Process grows like a tree—stage by stage—and so all of us would want to do better. I wouldn't allow you clean up, yes, "my mess". Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 19:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Request on 13:43:23, 31 October 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Gita Lana

• Gita Lana (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Dejan Milicevic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

the article you are telling me that it already exist is a whole different person and the one I am publishing about is another person, kindly review my article and let it b publish thanks Warm regards

Gita Lana (talk) 13:43, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

I have reverted the first rationale, and now, it's declined for lacking sources. I have tagged the ones that needs to be addressed. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Brian Chesky request follow-up

Hi SafariScribe, I'd left a message here a while ago about a request I made of the Brian Chesky article. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on my response to what you had implemented. If you are curious, The Verge also wrote about it. Cheers PY Airbnb (talk) 14:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Maybe I was looking for a better source. Please request again, and ping me, and I would be ready to help. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 03:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Please be careful with science AfC

It can be very tricky to do an AfC review in science. In NPP I looked at a couple you did recently, Radial drift and Nottingham effect. While both might be OK in the end, currently they dont have high quality sources or a wide enough scope. In both cases much more work needs to be done.

I never do an AfC review unless I have a decent knowledge of the area. I think that way reduces the overall load, particularly for second-state specialty area reviewers. Ldm1954 (talk) 18:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

@Ldm1954, thank you for your kind words. I have always appreciated AFC's focus on supporting newbies especially in any area of contributing to WP. I think it helped me when I first joined Wikipedia, and I recalled, even till date, making mistakes, which were used to, in my view, criticise me, although it could have been constructively corrected by other editors. I even considered leaving the project due to frustration, although I know that my departure wouldn't impact the project. It was with that recall that I realised that if an article deserves existence, we must work together to achieve it: a starting point could be accepting it via AFC.

Points to cnsider: Before accepting drafts, I research topics on my own to know if it deserves a WP article, and check for sources including ones that aren't listed in the "Ref" section. I feel bad not to have shared some of them (sources) for that particular draft, on the talk page for future improvements. Once again, thank you for your contributions, especially in science. Your work inspires me, hahaha. Although I studied science in high school, I'm currently pursuing philosophy and theology but still read my Physics and Chemistry and Biology, e.t.c. I don't give a move to a draft I don't know about the topic. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 20:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

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Surname Kupffer

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• https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kupffer

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That is not a reason my dear. The different versions of Wikipedia, eg German, French, English have different policies guiding notability, and research have, not sure but likely, researched that English Wikipedia has more strict rules than others. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 14:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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Move just accepted draft?

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I have seen you have recently accepted a draft from AfC, now located at The Shulgin Index, Volume One: Psychedelic Phenethylamines and Related Compounds. Isn't it better if we move it to The Shulgin Index: Volume One, or just The Shulgin Index? I believe it is too long and can be moved. If you have no objection, I am ready to move it.

Thanks ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 08:16, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:16, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Mary May Robertson

Hi there,

While analyzing the sources, I noticed that you accepted this draft within about six minutes of its creation. Do you have access to The Telegraph? Did you observe that the subject is also the article’s author? Personally, I would have declined it and requested additional references. Please be mindful of your Schumacher's level velocity, as it may not be beneficial to the project. Regards. Hitro talk 19:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

There was a tag in the article that indicates the need for sources. Draftifying it appears to be a problem since you could have waited for some hours or even days. Before you start coming here, please did you search for sources, like a WP:BEFORE; because I see WP:SIGCOV. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 23:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks for your contributions to Mary Robertson. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because you may have a possible Conflict of Interest and I believe UPE issue is here. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Hitro talk 00:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Please I have no COI or UPE. Thanks. @HitroMilanese, why did you draftify an article twice? @Asilvering please intervene. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 00:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry @SafariScribe, I didn't get your ping here for some reason. I have reminded Hitro that this is an out-of-process redraftification and should be reversed. -- asilvering (talk) 00:59, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Scott Foster (engineer)

Hello SafariScribe, this is absolutely wonderful work and feedback! Thank you so much for your work to make Wikipedia what it is today. The wikipedia community is proud to have you!

I have corrected all of your suggestions. It just so happens I was logged in when you left your comment - so I was able to get editing straight away.

Kind regards,

W

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