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Principality of Nitra

Smart edits. :) :) :) Thanks. What about a DYK? You know I am unable to undergo the whole procedure. A principality is quite interesting if all aspects of its history are highly debated by specialists. Borsoka (talk) 14:16, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

It's a good idea, I would gladly nominate it, if you wish, although it may be not successful, because this article is not a new one. If it does work, what sentence would you suggest to nominate? "Principality of Nitra" is full of theory, hypothesis and fairy tale.--Norden1990 (talk) 14:29, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Fenébe! (&@##) That is why I hate this DYK procedure: it is much trickier than a GAN. I hate vasting my time with policies that cannot be understood in less than 2 minutes. Ez van. (That's the situation.) Azért köszönet. (Thanks!) Mindenesetre jó móka volt :). (Even so, I enjoyed working on the article.) Borsoka (talk) 16:05, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Your comment on the Manning RM

Hi Norden. I'm Fluffernutter, and I'm attending to the requested move discussion in an administrative capacity to try to keep things flowing smoothly and without undue fighting. Your oppose comment on the RM contains commentary that unnecessarily personalizes the debate and contains statements that a significant portion of the community have found to be disruptive during previous discussions. In my administrative capacity, I am asking that you please re-word or re-phrase your comment so that it does not ascribe bad faith to your fellow community members ("homosexual lobby") or belittle the gender identity of other humans ("definitely a man", "I also could say that I'm a tiger. However it's not true."). Remember that the move discussion centers about policy, not personal feelings. You are more than welcome to your personal feelings, but they will not sway the consensus of the discussion, and may in fact cause your vote to be given less weight in the end if they make it appear your vote is not policy-based. If you are unwilling or unable to re-word your comment, I will redact the problematic portions of it in my administrative capacity, pursuant to the discretionary sanctions that are active in this topic area. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:25, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Norden, there was nothing wrong with your comment. You are merely another victim of a clear abuse of power. I know that there is nothing you can do about it, but I just wanted to reassure you that you are completely correct. AutomaticStrikeout (₵) 01:13, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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RE: King of Croatia infobox

Saying "you have no valid arguments" is a very bad way to start a discussion. As for reverting without explanation you did it first so don't complain about what you do yourself. Croatia was one of THE main titles of those monarchs. They did not have to be crowned separately (as you claim) since Hungary and Croatia were in personal union, the coronation was joint ceremony since at least mid-13th century. If we can have Ireland being mentioned in the succession boxes of English (and later British) monarchs we can certainly have Croatia being mentioned when referring to Hungarian (and incidentally Croatian) monarchs. Don't see what exactly is the problem there. Shokatz (talk) 01:24, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your continuous work of creating and maintaining articles related to Hungary. Keep up your excellent work! KœrteFa {ταλκ} 16:30, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --Norden1990 (talk) 14:51, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Kingdom of Hungary

Hi! You don't have to go to the library, i send you the original text, if i have free time (maybe in weekend). Rovibroni (talk) 19:32, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Here's some useful parts from the book:

1. Európai kulturális központ: "Egy, alkalmasint Kálti Márk nevű klerikus, székesfehérvári őrkanonok 1358-ban kezdett hozzá az addigi magyar krónikás anyag második szintézisének elkészítéséhez. E szövegváltozat egyik példánya a Képes Krónika kódexében maradt ránk. Ennek miniatúrái a korabeli európai művészet élvonalába tartoztak." (p. 197), "A képző- és építőművészet tárgykörébe vonható alkotások már Károly alatt szép számmal készültek, és Lajos idején teljesedtek ki." (p. 198), "E testvérpár [Kolozsvári Márton és György,- megj.] Prágában található Szent György-szobra a magyar szobrászat európai rangú alkotása." (p. 198), "Főleg a két fővárosban, Visegrádon és Budán folytak nagyszabású építkezések." [a gótika jegyében,- megj.] (p. 198), "1395-ben Óbudán hozott létre egyetemet [Zsigmond,- megj.], amelynek mind a négy kara (jogi, bölcsész, orvosi, teológiai) működött." (p. 198), "1418-tól kezdve 1444-ben bekövetkezett haláláig Magyarországon tartózkodott a neves itáliai humanista tudós és pedagógus, Pier Paolo Vergerio, aki a Vitéz János körül csoportosult humanista kör legismertebb tagja volt." (p. 199), "Mátyás udvarában gyökeret vert és megerősödött a reneszánsz és a humanizmus...., a kor európai mércével is jelentős költője, Csezmiczei Jánost, azaz Janus Pannoniust Ferrarában iskoláztatta." [Vitéz János iskoláztatta,-megj.] (p. 199), "Vitéz János kezdeményezte az 1467-ben megalapított újabb magyarországi egyetem, a pozsonyi létesítését, ahol több külföldi tudós is tanított." (p. 199), "A csak kevés nyomtatott könyvet tartalmazó Corvina teljes állománya meghaladta a kétezret, és ez Európában ritkaságnak számított." (p. 200), "A Jagelló-kor néhány évtizede alatt a műveltségi szint robbanásszerű emelkedését tapasztaljuk." (p. 200), "Az itáliai gyökerű humanizmus Mátyás halálával nem enyészett el, hanem kiterjedt." (p. 200)

2. Európai középhatalom/jelentős politikai tényező: "Magyarország a 12. század második felére jelentős európai tényezővé, középhatalommá vált." (p. 113), ..Magyarországot ez európai politika jelentős tényezőjévé tette..[Mátyás király,- megj.] (p. 155)

3. Nyugati kultúrkör része: "..Magyarország úgy tudott érdemlegesen felzárkózni a Nyugathoz (jóllehet annak szintjét távolról sem érte el), hogy belső gondjai...nem roppantották össze.." (p. 115), "A Nyugat részévé vált Magyarország.." (p. 113)

Book: Kristó Gyula - Barta János - Gergely Jenő: Magyarország története előidőktől 2000-ig, Pannonica Kiadó, Budapest, 2002, ISBN 963-9252-56-5

Rovibroni (talk) 21:55, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! --Norden1990 (talk) 09:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014

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DYK for Csák I Hahót

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DYK for Ernye Ákos

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Eurocentral

The last version of his comment is:

Keep "The list is relevant for the vocabulary of Romanian language. Many works by specialists refer to words of possible Dacian origin" * Eurocentral (talk) 14:04, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Romanian_words_of_possible_Dacian_origin&diff=581910126&oldid=581909668

He moved his comment and edited it. It is true He should not have deleted yours. 82.79.213.79 (talk) 18:23, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Kérés

Lsz, próbálj meg ne minősíteni. Egyrészt teljesen felesleges (nem kapcsolódik a vita témájához), másrészt egyoldalú (a mi történetírásunkban is van rengeteg baromság), harmadrészt olyan ügyben nyilvánítasz véleményt, amelyet nem biztos, hogy ismersz (nem feltételezem, hogy akár DK-i, akár É-i szomszédunk nyelvén szoktál történelemkönyveket olvasgatni), negyedrészt kifejezetten káros (harmadik felek azt tapasztalják, hogy valami szokásos k-európai acsarkodás). Kérlek, az ilyen típusú megjegyzések előtt számolj háromig. Igen, néha idegesítőek, sokszor marhaságokat írnak, ráadásul némelyikük bicskanyitogatóan elfogult és szűklátókörű, de ez legyen az ő bajuk, ne a miénk. Egyébként nagyon tetszik az erdélyi vajda sorozatod. Sokkal jobban hozzájárul mindenféle közösségi célunkhoz, mint a negatív megjegyzéseid. Szép lassan, nyugodtan, lépésről lépésre haladva előbb utóbb célba érünk. :) Legyen szép napod. Borsoka (talk) 03:49, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

A személyeskedést nem én kezdtem, hiszen láthatod, rögtön deklarálva lett, hogy azért nem tetszik nekünk a cikk, mert magyarok vagyunk. Pedig nem, hiszen nem győztem hangsúlyozni, hogy magával a dáko-román kontiunitás cikkel nincs bajom. Úgy látszik, mindenki elbeszél egymás mellett. Minden elfogultság nélkül mondom, hogy a magyar és román történetírás össze sem hasonlítható egymással, hiszen amíg a dáko-román elmélet állami és akadémiai támogatást élvez, addig nálunk az abszurd elméletek a történészi szakma peremére szorultak (azért Badinyi-Jós teóriája nem mainstream, ezt gondolom, te is elfogadod). Merem állítani, hogy a magyar történetírás a legkorrektebb a térségben, talán túlzottan is. Ha a vita megmaradt volna civilizált hangnemben, én is az maradtam volna, de úgy látszik, a románok "szent tehenét" sértettük meg. Lehet, hogy érzékeny vagyok az ilyen esetekben. Egyébként a szlovákot olvasási szinten megértem, és nagyjából tudom, mi folyik ott történelem-oktatás címszó alatt (amelyeket egyébként közös nevező alá lehetne hozni a magyar historiográfiával, de amíg nincs meg a közös politikai akarat... na mindegy, idealista voltam mindig is). --Norden1990 (talk) 14:52, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

u. i.: köszi a dicséretet is, ha van bármiféle javaslatod, kiegészíteni valód, csak szerkessz bátran (sajnos csak három-négy könyv áll rendelkezésemre az erdélyi vajdákat illetően). --Norden1990 (talk) 14:54, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

És tényleg magyarok vagyunk. :) A szlovákért irigyellek. A magyar történetírás óriási hiányossága, hogy a magyar történészek nem ismerik a környék nyelveit. Egyszerűen nem tudnak lépést tartani. Ezzel szemben a középkorral vagy újkorral foglalkozó szlovák, román, stb. történészek megtanulnak (legalább olvasni) magyarul. Esetleg nincs valami jó szlovák könyv arról, mikor épült a kora-középkori nyitrai vár? A hercegségről szóló cikkhez jó lenne, beírni, hogy kb. 870-ben (ugyanis ez a sejtésem). Én románul szeretnék megtanulni. Sőt, már többször el is kezdtem, de mindig abbamaradt. Pedig nagyon érdekes nyelv: valójában semmihez sem hasonlít. Visszatérve az alaptémára: soha ne hagyd, hogy bármilyen megjegyzéssel felidegesítsenek. Én mindig akkor csinálok hülyeséget, ha hagyom, hogy felnyomják az agyvizemet. Jobb fordított helyzetben lenni. :) További jó munkát, még mielőtt valamelyikük ránk szól, hogy használjuk az ánglius nyelvet. Borsoka (talk) 17:39, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Hogy pontosan a nyitrai várról van-e könyv, azt nem tudom, de itt van néhány könyv Szlovákia várairól : Slovenské hrady. Szerintem a legtöbb magyar kutatóban fel sem merül, hogy tanulnia kéne szlovákul vagy románul. Ezért alakulnak ki a párhuzamos történelmek térségünkben. Még jó hogy nem vagyok középkorász, és csak hobbiszinten szerkesztek itt. Egyébként most sem idegesítettek fel, maximum nyersen fogalmaztam. --Norden1990 (talk) 18:01, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Matthew II Csák

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DYK for Matthew II Csák

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DYK for Matthew I Csák

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In my dispute with Borsoka your attitude is unfair. You fight against Romanian history like Borsoka does. So, stay away and do not talk without arguments. We do not need nationalistic approach as you promotes. Eurocentral (talk) 07:19, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

I can repeat myself, read WP:NOR, WP:PA and WP:EW. Cheers, Norden1990 (talk) 13:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Stephen II Csák

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re- Merry Xmas

Thank you! You too. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! All the best. GreetingsAdrian (talk) 21:48, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I endorse and echo Adrian's sentiments. May 2014 be an even better year than 2013, at least on Wikipedia. - Biruitorul ^Talk 22:15, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Kivanok neked is Kellemes Karacsonyi Unnepeket es Boldog Uj Evet! Fakirbakir (talk) 23:14, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Köszönet! A magam részéről is áldott Karácsonyt és boldog új évet kívánok neked és a szeretteidnek. Borsoka (talk) 06:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 08:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Norden1990, let me join the others in thanking you your kind message and wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Cheers, KœrteFa {ταλκ} 13:27, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Vajon ki ő?

Nem egy régi, már letiltott ismerősünk támadt fel? Mindkettőjük fő érdeklődési területe a székelyek külön nyelve, valamint a magyarországi cigányok helyzete. Borsoka (talk) 19:03, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Persze, egyértelmű, hogy a Hortobagy nevű, meglehetősen primitív "szerkesztőről" van szó. Nála még Iaaasi is kedvesebb és konstruktívabb személy. --Norden1990 (talk) 19:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Sto gyéláty, kérdezte valaha egy régen halott véreskezű diktátor. Én is ezt kérdezem: mi a teendő? Borsoka (talk) 19:39, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Mivel Hortobagyot anno bannolták, egy WP:SPI eredményes lehet, ám ha tovább rakoncátlankodik, akkor elég lesz egy jelentés is ide: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Ott meg akár finoman lehet rá célozni, hogy kirívóan hasonló stílusban és témakörökben szerkeszt, mint Hortobagy pár hónapja. --Norden1990 (talk) 22:07, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

vandalism

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Have you been informed by our uncivil friend?

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Edit warrior keeping POV fork reverts User:Norden1990 Borsoka (talk) 14:00, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Hopefully he will got punished. However, the fact that Hungarian POV is pushed even by you, remains. However, citing your sources where were the Hungarians tribes 2000 yrs ago when Napoca was a city :)?. 2QW4 (talk) 14:02, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Don't vandalize my talk page, "dear" 2QW4, move on, if you haven't constructive comment. --Norden1990 (talk) 14:07, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you that the history of Kolozsvár and the Hungarian people is so closely connected, that all the major facts of the Hungarian history could be mentioned in the article of Kolozsvár. However, I am afraid there are no other editors who share our view. I suggest we should not write of the prehistory of the Hungarians in that article. Borsoka (talk) 14:06, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

What you think is POV fork, and nobody has to agree with you. Remember Trianon very well, even by then Hungarians were never a majority, so, move on you. If you can't accept reality, that's why Jobbik is increasing in Hungary. And this is not seen well by EU. 2QW4 (talk) 14:10, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't care your comment. Avoid WP:PA. --Norden1990 (talk) 14:12, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I know you don't care, but maybe that's why you're a Jobbik activist member. EU should ban Jobbik parties. 2QW4 (talk) 14:13, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Dear Norden1990, FYI. Borsoka (talk) 15:48, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Dear Norden & others, that's really hilarious. I am not a sock. Happy editing! 2QW4 (talk) 16:41, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Horty Miklosh

About him, what exactly is your opinion? Because I see you revert 2 main aspects:

1. that he's a war crminal

2. that his regime lead to massive anti-semitism and killing of jews.

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I am finding that you and many others feel a magnate is an absurd criteria to segregate people by. It is always great meeting people like yourself; so in tune with what is real.—John Cline (talk) 21:55, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Ethnicity in lede of bios.

Hi Norden1990, I removed the ethnicity from the lede of a few bios and you reverted me without explaination. I reverted them back and would ask you to read WP:MOSBIO, specifically opening paragraph, where it addresses ethnicity in the lede. If you feel that ethnicity is part of the subjects notability, that would be fine to include if it is the case. I would use the subjects talk page to address this and hope we can reach some agreement. Maybe we could get other editors involved and defer to their opinion? Thank you and regards, --Malerooster (talk) 16:38, 8 January 2014 (UTC)ps, maybe we can include ethnicity in a family or early life section? That would be ok as well. --Malerooster (talk) 16:40, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I think their ethnicity is important information, because they wrote (articles, poems, movies etc.) in their own language. I moved the ethnicity info from the lead to the main text (unfortunately, these are very short and stub articles). --Norden1990 (talk) 17:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I think moving that info into the main text is a good idea. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 01:36, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hungarian parliamentary election, 1926

Hi Norden. I notice you've helpfully corrected some of the recent articles I've produced on Hungarian parties and elections. I have a query about the 1926 elections - my source (produced by academics, but occasionally prone to the odd flaw - the Hungary chapter was written by László Hubai) claims the National Party of the Lower-Middle Class (Kispolgárok Országos Pártja) won a seat in the elections. However, it did not receive any votes. I know that this is possible if it ran unopposed (it did win the seat in a single-member constituency, which is where this would happen), but I just wanted to make sure before I created the article. Number 5 7 21:08, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello. According to this publication, Lajos Szilágyi was MP for Berettyóújfalu from the National Party of the Lower-Middle Class between 1926 and 1931. During the 1926 election, this party (KOP) was an ally of the Unity Party, as a result the ruling party did not appoint a candidate for Berettyóújfalu constituency (source). Anyway, Szilágyi founded his party, the National Party of the Lower-Middle Class in 1926, shortly before the election. --Norden1990 (talk) 21:44, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Great, thank you - it seems the book was right, so I shall create the article. Much appreciated, Number 5 7 21:51, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hungarian parliamentary election, 2014

Hi - re: that graph you asked about, I've started trying to make one - obviously not ready yet, but it would look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/1TekNtY.jpg . Would something like that be OK? It's not quite as sophisticated as the Czech example you pointed to, I'm afraid, but it comes close. No-itsme (talk) 23:26, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much, it will be OK. :) --Norden1990 (talk) 13:07, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Predecessors of Hungary

Hello! I've noticed that at the article List of predecessors of sovereign states in Europe edited by you recently the Hunnic Empire is listed (exclusively) as a predecessor of Hungary. As far as I know, there is no proved ethnic continuity between these political units, and in the same time the area occupied by the Hunnic Empire is much larger than the territory of Hungary. What's your opinion about this? 82.79.215.38 (talk) 08:20, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

See the other countries: The Roman Empire is also much longer than today's Greece, Portugal or Romania. Therefore Roman Empire should be inserted to the Hungary section (when Pannonia province established in 20 AD). --Norden1990 (talk) 11:51, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

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Kérés

Elnézést, de Aba Samu királyunk GAR-ja során elakadtam valami WikiCommons problémával, amit én nem is értek. (Sőt nem is akarok megérteni, mivel az borzalmas erőfeszítéseket igényelne.) Szerintem te rögtön érteni fogod, miről van szó, és ki is tudod javítani. Esetleg lenne időd ránézni és segíteni? (Az "Images" rész első három francia bekezdése tartalmazza a problémákat.) Örök hála. Borsoka (talk) 15:08, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Helló! Elnézést, hogy csak most válaszolok. A királyt ábrázoló kép leírása, engedélye rendben van, valaki február 3-án pótolta. Én ez alapján most javítottam a ménfői csata kép leírását, engedélyét, származási helyét stb. Remélem, ez elegendő lesz. Üdv, --Norden1990 (talk) 17:11, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Köszönet. Borsoka (talk) 13:22, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Lazar family

Hi, Look at this User:Lazarg1. What do you think? Can we simply copy the content from user Lazarg1's page and create a new article? Fakirbakir (talk) 12:16, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I think there is no problem as this user did not expand/modify the article since July 2013. However text needs review, inspection and repair. For istance, the correct spelling is Lázár. --Norden1990 (talk) 17:15, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Jobban megnezve csak osszeollozott anyag kulonbozo wiki oldalakrol :(. Talan lehet kezdeni vele valamit, nezek ra forrasokat. Fakirbakir (talk) 19:32, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

3RR on Kingdom of Hungary

Just so you are aware of it [1] Wladthemlat (talk) 14:35, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Lead section of the ominous article was written after compromise and consensus, there was no need to discuss a problem arise again and again. These rules always protect long-banned editors (see the case of User:Iaaasi) and nationalist edits without valid sources... --Norden1990 (talk) 18:53, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Being right or enforcing what you believe is consensus is not an excuse for edit warring. A successful block appeal here will need to address what you understand and/or would change about your own behavior, rather than criticizing your opponents. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:05, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Pfff... No comment, you're wrong. --Norden1990 (talk) 19:07, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Iaasi

Hi, you mentioned this User above, and it appears that this new IP may be connected. I have opened Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Iaaasi#14_February_2014. Could you please review, and add a diff showing connection if such connection is evident. Thank you for your edits. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

True, but reporting the puppet helps keep the SPI record accurate. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:04, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

User:Norden1990, I thought you avoided to comment on the SPI because you focus on edits, not on editors, but unfortunately you seem to be not much different of your predecessors Hobartimus and Nmate. You use the pretext that this ip is from Craiova to remove sourced information that don't please you. 86.127.24.200 (talk) 15:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't care your lie. --Norden1990 (talk) 16:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Translation request

I saw that you're native Hungarian speaker. Could you translate that? Please answer on my talk page on English or Polish Wikipedia talk page. You were recommended by him :) Żyrafał (talk) 19:45, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

OK. I will provide a proper translation on your talk page tomorrow. --Norden1990 (talk) 20:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks :) Żyrafał (talk) 21:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I remind ;) Żyrafał (talk) 16:24, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, but I have one more question - skiing means cross-country, ski jumping or another sport? Żyrafał (talk) 14:19, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

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edit warring

please dont engage in edit warring and revering page moves, there was a pretty clear cut consensus with plenty of sources, and no one agreed to "clashes" --Львівське (говорити) 17:22, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

there was a lengthy talk page discussion requesting the move, had you bothered to even check. --Львівське (говорити) 17:26, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

and yet here you are, changing the title to one you deem fit with no consensus to push a political objective. hypocrisy much? --Львівське (говорити) 17:31, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

but the original title was "18 February Euromaidan police crackdown", it has never been 'clashes'; it was previously 'riots' --Львівське (говорити) 17:44, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Szilveszter E. Vizi

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Stephen I of Hungary

Who is he? Dr. Antal Miskei PhD, Associate Professor: http://www.ektf.hu/ujweb/index.php?page=370 YouTube isn't a source, right, but a leverage to mediate also (at its time 19:50-21:05) his lectur(es). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpHfhZhmdxo&feature=youtu.be& Best regards for remaking. --81.182.0.60 (talk) 12:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Liberal/National Party of Work

Ah, I do apologise. The book I have been using states that it was merely a rename and makes no mention of the other two parties. Do you have some sources we could use to split the articles and create one solely about the Liberal Party? Cheers, Number 5 7 22:08, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Again, sorry, this was based on the text. Feel free to amend. Cheers, Number 5 7 22:40, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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Antal Ruprecht

You know, after I saw your edit summary I went to find the source where I had definitely definitely read "now Stockholm"... I have no idea where I conjured that from! Sam Walton (talk) 23:07, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, nezd meg a Sandbox-om. Az adatokat meg be kell irni (vagy javitani) meg egy reszere meg varni kell de azt hiszem valami ilyesmire van szuksegunk. Fakirbakir (talk) 21:54, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Nem ertem teljesen, a Demokratikus koalicio tagjai (es meg a LMP-bol kivalt kepviselok) bennt ultek a parlamentben a valasztasok elott. Fel kell tunteni a tablazatban ezen formaciok "kepviseloveszteset"? Tegyuk fel benn ult 10 taguk, de most csak 4 lesz?! Most ugy alakitottam a template-et hogy ne kelljen ezzel foglalkozni, de nem vagyok ebben olyan biztos. Fakirbakir (talk) 22:47, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Koszi, igy mar vilagos :). Fakirbakir (talk) 23:04, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Talk:People's Republic of Hungary

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Béla IV of Hungary - succession box

Értem a fenntartásodat, de valahogy különbséget kellene tenni az uralkodói címek (magyar király, stájer herceg) és az egyéb/nemesi címek (szlavón herceg, erdélyi herceg) között. A szlavón és erdélyi hercegek mindig a magyar király alattvalói voltak. Valami hasonlóra lenne szükség, mint itt. Borsoka (talk) 02:13, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

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