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maintenance tags

I notice that in this edit, you removed the {{use dmy dates}} tag, which is used to indicate the date format to be displayed in the article. It is not visible in display mode, and potentially facilitates future maintenance to keep date formats consistent and should therefore not be removed. Thanks for your attention. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 01:37, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Michael Szilágyi‎

Of course that he is a Hungarian historical figure, but now he has no article any more. Say thank you for its deletion to your friend Nmate LOL 79.117.184.94 (talk) 07:41, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Another sample of Nmate's behaviour: [1] (he eliminated from the article the phrase about the siege of Szamosújvár, Dobo istvan's portrait - File:Dobo istvan.jpg and the photo of Dobó István's statue in Eger: File:Dobo Istvan Statue01.JPG) 79.117.210.62 (talk) 16:43, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Fixed. --Norden1990 (talk) 17:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Good. But you forgot to add File:Dobo Istvan Statue01.JPG 79.117.210.62 (talk) 17:02, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
This article is too short for two images. --Norden1990 (talk) 17:03, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that might be true. However it has potential to be expanded 79.117.210.62 (talk) 17:20, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
You can expand the article, if you want. However, I suggest, register before writing anything. --Norden1990 (talk) 17:26, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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Horvats

Hello! I used the Croatian family name because it is used by English language sources. English language historians tend to call the brothers John and Paul (much like Hungarians refer to Ban Stjepan II as István). The family name Horvat is also more commony used than Horváti - why, I don't know, but en.wiki should adhere to WP:Use English. Surtsicna (talk) 21:01, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, compare, for example, the 10 book search results for John Horvat with 1 book search result for Janos Horvati or 5 book search results for Paul Horvat with 0 book search results for Pal Horvati. It clearly shows which name is preferred in English language sources. Surtsicna (talk) 21:23, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
There, I cited my two favourite and most relevant. Surtsicna (talk) 21:38, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to correct the article! :) Surtsicna (talk) 10:28, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

You may see who Iaaasi is

Whether you knew that the Ip user who asked you to manage to restore the article Mihály Szilágyi was Iaaasi [2] or not...

  • You have gotten a mallicious attack behind your back from him :[3] i.e. Iaaasi wanted to achieve that a Wikipedia:ARBEE notification be given to you after which you can easily be blocked from editing.

I am 100% sure that this Ip user is Iaaasi, but I do not actually know how he did this. Perhaps he can clone or forge ip addresses.

According to "Ip2 location. com", the Ip 202.117.4.226 is from Peking [4]. However, if you take a glance at the sources said Ip user gave to the article Jan Jesenius, the google books display characters used in the Romanian alphabet such as [5] [6] :"Din interiorul cărţii" , "Ce spun oamenii - Scrieţi o recenzie".

Also, from this message can be seen here [7] that it is highly unlikely that this user is from China.

Furthermore, there is a blocked meatpuppet of Iaaasi, User:Daccono , who also wanted to manage a similar WP:DIGWUREN warning in the past to User:Hobartimus too here[8] and here [9].--Nmate (talk) 09:35, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

László Csizsik-Csatáry

I've placed a responce in regards to your claim on non-neutrality in this article. If you'd care to respond, we can get the article straightened out to some form of consensus and get the template removed. I feel that it would be well-warranted to put some more effort into this article due to the man's recent detainment and the current/new investigation on death-penalty-level war crimes charges. Human.v2.0 (talk) 19:23, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Solti infobox

Hello, I note your recent addition to the above article and thank you for your interest. However, the edit you conducted is subject to a discussion which I am sure you are aware of and has therefore been deleted. An addition of an infobox will have to be considered as and when a consensus is reached. -- CassiantoTalk 12:18, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I apologize, I did not notice the discussion about the infobox. I thought that was removed by an act of vandalism. --Norden1990 (talk) 13:09, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
No worries at all. Infobox disputes are unfortunately becoming ever more prevelent and it seems the divide is evenly matched. I'm sure this will be a topic of discussion across WP for many years to come. Happy editing! -- CassiantoTalk 13:16, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism

Re your message: Just some trolling. Nothing to worry about. =) He hit a few others, too. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Magyar Nemzeti Tanács

Szia!

I do not know how this could happen. I mistakenly thought that the interwiki-link points out to the Hungarian National Council Of Voivodina. You are right that the interwiki-link is correct. Although I would have appreciated it if you had told me in the edit-summary that I was wrong rather than just using an "Undid revision 507961521 by Nmate (talk))". Never mind. It is not a big concern. Üdv.--Nmate (talk) 14:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Ladislaus Kórógyi

Thank you for your message. Actually, I was thinking of the best form, but I think Ladislaus is the neutral one - do we know what was his name? See, for instance, List of bishops and prince-bishops of Liège - medieval names are Anglicized. Borsoka (talk) 11:37, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Liszt's letter

I have been trying to find somebody who can speak english and help me translate this 1867 letter from Liszt to a music publisher from Budapeste called Laszlo Kugler. I tried to translate it, but unfortunately it's not only Hungarian, but an old way of expression. Can you please make it english ? It's for Henri Gobbi. Thanks for your help ! Krenakarore TK 18:44, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Tisztelt Uram,

Túlzott szerénysége, mely akadályozta Önt, hogy Pesten létemkor felkeressen, visszatetsző előttem. Kellemes lett volna, ha őszinte dicséretemet - szerzeményeit illetve - személyesen és behatóbban tárgyalhattam volna. Művei elvitázhatatlan tehetségre, finom és józan zeneértelemre mutatnak. Ha kínálkozik alkalom, szívesen és körülményesen fogok a dologhoz tartozó tárgyakról Önnel beszélgetni. Egyelőre fogadja legjobb köszönetemet ide mellékelt leveléért, valamint érdekes és elismerésre méltó szerzeményeiért.

Barátságos tisztelője
Franz Liszt

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Help with translation

Hello Norden, I would like to ask you to tranlsate the following into English

Orbán Viktor kormánya ezzel azt üzente az egész világnak, hogy Magyarország olyan hely, ahol az emberélet eladó, ahol a baltás gyilkos nem jól megérdemelt büntetését töltő bűnöző, hanem túsz, akit némi váltságdíj reményében tartanak fogva és engednek szabadon. Az Orbán-kormány lépését megvetéssel és undorral fogadó nemzetközi reakciókon lemérhető, hogyan vélekedik erről a civilizált világ.


A Demokratikus Koalíció követeli Navracsics Tibor igazságügyi miniszter lemondását, és kezdeményezi az Országgyűlés Külügyi Bizottsága rendkívüli ülésének azonnali összehívását.

Source http://www.demokratikuskoalicio.hu/index.php/2011-12-05-15-42-05/dkhirek/3195-dk-koezlemeny-orban-viktor-aruba-bocsatotta-magyarorszag-becsueletet

Thank you!--Yerevanci (talk) 13:33, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again. I really appreciate your help. --Yerevanci (talk) 14:03, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I am aware of the burning of the Hungarian flag in Yerevan. I will add about that.

Could you please give links for the party leaders', president's, and others reactions that you think should be placed there?--Yerevanci (talk) 14:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --Yerevanci (talk) 15:08, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey Norden, will you please give me the source of the statement of Péter Erdő, the Archbishop of Esztergom? If it is in Hungarian, please translate and I'll try to integrate it into the article.--Yerevanci (talk) 19:54, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Köszönet. Borsoka (talk) 04:36, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Győri csata

Hello! Segítségre volna szükség egy vélhetően francia szerkesztő ellen, aki a győri csata cikkből sorozatosan eltávolítja a hadviselő felek közül Magyarországot, arra hivatkozva, hogy csak egy tartománya volt a Habsburg Monarchiának. Többször próbáltam felvilágosítani arról, hogy egy átmeneti időszakban volt ez 1849 és 1867 között, de Magyarország nem vált tartománnyá és nem vesztett el bizonyos alapvető jogokat, mint 1620-ban Cseh- és Morvaország. Doncsecztalk 10:39, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Kösz, s még akkor megtennéd, hogy itt elmagyaráznád a te álláspontjaid. Én leírtam, hogy a győri csata mivel így végződött tulajdonképpen jelentéktelen epizód a napóleoni háborúk történetében, csak arra mutatott rá, hogy az inszurrekció semmit sem ér. Tudjuk, hogy majdnem 200 ezer magyar katonája volt a Napóleon harcoló császári seregnek, de ezek többnyire nem is saját uniformisban küzdöttek. Győrnél ellenben az inszurrekció a megyék egyenruhájában vonult fel és magyar parancsnokok vezették ezeket az egységeket, tehát külön magyar haderőről beszélhetünk itt. A szerkesztő nem fogadja el a forrásokat, mert magyar nyelvűek, de angol nyelvűt hogyan találjunk, ha egyszer ez nem is olyan jelentős csata és ha van is szűkszavúan beszél erről. Doncsecztalk 11:24, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Nagy nehezen találtam egy forrást angolul, amelyben a nemesi inszurrekcióról is írnak, illetve arról, hogy külön egységként harcoltak a győri csatában: 1. Remélem ez megfelel neki végre. Doncsecztalk 11:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Még nagyobb a baj: Talk:Napoleonic Wars. Egy román nemzetiségű szerkesztő avatkozott be és azzal a hülyeséggel, hogy ekkor nem volt semmi szín alatt önálló magyar állam és csak osztrák sereg volt Győrnél. Érvel külföldi történészekre, akik nem is ismerik a csata körülményeit. Doncsecztalk 17:14, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

September 2012

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Some bubble tea for you!

wanted to thank you for the addition of the Benedek Eszterhas article! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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anti-Croatian sentiment

Yes, the Croatian form more common in Croatia.
What a surprise, you are from Croatia...

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It's not a slight of the person if they're referred to using a common name - assuming that a name is indeed common, of course. Notice a converse example in Fausto Veranzio. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 10:54, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Eleonóra Zichy

Hello Norden1990 I have a very special question and hope you know some more about Eleonora Countess ANDRÁSSY nee Countess ZICHY to give me an answer.

The famous Austrian writer and editor Karl KRAUS wrote in "Weltgericht", tom II, in February, 1918:

Aber was macht denn die Gräfin Julius Andrassy im Spital in Budapest? Sie läßt sich photographieren, während sie verklärten Blickes einem anscheinend den besseren Ständen angehörenden Helden einen Löffel Medizin verabreicht, den er mit zager Hand und im Vollgefühl der Situation gerührt entgegennimmt? Warum tut sie das, die Samariterin? Warum hat sie dem Photographen nicht gesagt, er möge warten, bis der Patient die Medizin genommen habe?

It is not important what but about whom Karl KRAUS wrote and where the described and ridiculed press photograph was taken: Eleonora Maria Rudolfina Countess ANDRÁSSY nee Countess ZICHY as nurse in an Austro-Hungarian military hospital (in second matrimony wife of the last Imperial Austro-Hungarian foreign minister Gyula Count ANDRÁSSY the younger).

From my grandfather I inherited a similar photograph: a skull surgery, performed in May 1915 in the Imperial Austrian field hospital Nr. 7/9 in Zakliczyn, Galicia (now Poland). The acting persons are Austrian medical officers and sergeants and - as my father told me and his father told him - a Countess ANDRÁSSY as surgery nurse. If it is Countess Eleonora ANDRÁSSY, she must have been 19 years older than on Joszef RIPPL-RONAI's painting (48 versus 29 years of age) but I think there is a striking similarity. I would like to send you the photograph and to get your comment on my assumption.

Sincerely, Peredwin Peredwin (talk) 09:04, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello Norden1990,

I would like to send the photographt to your e-mail address but where can I find it? In your user page there is none. Regards, --Peredwin (talk) 14:58, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Freedom of speech by country

Please provide an edit summary when deleting sourced material. I can find no obvious reason why that material should be deleted, so I have reverted you. Thanks. --Saddhiyama (talk) 15:12, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Mail rejected

Hello Norden1990, my message was rejected by your e-mail server. Please delist my address xxxxxxx@xxx.xx (IP 80.69.98.248). Regards, --Peredwin (talk) 16:10, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Károly Kontrát

Hi, I'm Kudpung. Norden1990, thanks for creating Károly Kontrát!

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Vespa

Thanks for correcting the name of the horse's Hungarian buyer. It was just lazy of me to link it to the Hunyadi family article.  Tigerboy1966  23:41, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Deletion

Szia! A segítséged kellene egy törlés ellen, mivel képtelenség amit támasztanak vele szemben: vannak források, rájuk lehet keresni, csak éppen azok a szerkesztők nem tudnak, vagy nem akarnak. A szebeni csata cikkét valaha én írtam és figyelemmel kísérem. Személy szerint támogatom a magyar nevet a történelmi okból kifolyólag és láttam már hasonló vitákat itt. Doncsecztalk 12:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Köszönet

Köszönet a segítségért. Igyekszem meghálálni. :) Ha elfogadsz egy tanácsot, vigyázz egy kicsit magadra. Az "azért mondod ezt, mert olyan vagy" stílust nem jó használni. Ezt hagyjuk rájuk. Minden jót! Borsoka (talk) 20:21, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Fel a fejjel! Azért visszahúzódni nem kell. :) :) :) :) Borsoka (talk) 20:40, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Request for translation

Hello, I noticed that you mentioned my name in your comment [10] in Hungarian language. Per WP:SPEAKENGLISH, I respectfully ask you to provide a translation. Thanks! --Omen1229 (talk) 22:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Provocation

Hi Norden1990, please, don't let yourself provoked (e.g., by suspicious new accounts which might hide a sockpuppeter). Especially, mind the WP:3RR. The question of historical names would indeed need a long-term solution, i.e., a clear-cut guideline. Keep up the good work. Cheers, KœrteFa {ταλκ} 18:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I did not see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#Norden1990 when I wrote the message above. Were you informed about this? KœrteFa {ταλκ} 18:58, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Magyars vs. Hungarians

I think you were right. The name "Hungarian" had to appear before the Christian state. Take a look at this Talk:Hungarian_prehistory/Archive_3#Hungarians_before_9th_century (Péter Király's opinion). Those sources are more than interesting. It can also correspond with this (from page of Hungarian people): "The exonym "Hungarian" is thought to be derived from the Bulgar-Turkic On-Ogur (meaning "ten" Ogurs), which was the name of the Utigur Bulgar tribal confederacy that ruled the eastern parts of Hungary after the Avars, and prior to the arrival of Magyars. The Hungarians must have belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance and it is quite possible they became its ethnic majority. In the Early Middle Ages the Hungarians had many different names, such as "Ungar" (in German) or "Hungarus"."

I think it does not mean that all of the sources referred to the Magyars in Király's study because the records could have been easily about the "ethnic Onogurs", but a couple of them certainly meant "ethnic Magyar". Fakirbakir (talk) 00:02, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

You have been reported

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ANI

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Hungarian people SEMATICS and REALITY

About the folklore & landscape pictures

The Hungarian People article doesn't talks about the present-day Hungarian Republic or Hungarian state (or its modern state-borders), but it talks about an ethnic group, the Hungarians. Forexample many minorities live between the borders of modern Hungarian state (Germans Serbs Slovaks Croatians etc..), but this article is about Hungarian people as ethnic group. The origin of buildings in modern Romania modern Slovakia etc.. are not relates to the culture of Slovak people, Serbian or Romanian (Vlach) people (which refer to etchnic groups) These medieval catholic Romanesque Gothic and Renaissance buildings are styles of the Western (catholic - protestant) World, and they aren't related to the culture Orthodox Romanian or Serbian people too... Keep in mind: Just because the borders were changed after the WW I in 1920, the old history and the old past (the cultural history or the history of these medieval and early modern buildings) did not changed. For Adrian and Iadrian yu: Interestingly, the Hungarians have never claimed that the orthodox early-modern and medieval wooden-churches monastries of Vlachs are Hungarian churches.--Relevater (talk) 14:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Paul Subic of Bibir

Would you create an entry for Hungarian Wikipedia about Paul I Šubić of Bribir Would appreciate it very much. Er-vet-en (say) 21:53, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. ;) Er-vet-en (say) 08:46, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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Diosdado Cabello

Hi! Are you able to read and understand Spanish? (Please answer here) ★ Nacho ★ Mailbox ★ 23:55, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't speak Spanish. However reliable English-language press stated that Cabello will assume the interim presidency before the election is held (BBC, Sky News). Of course it could be false information later. --Norden1990 (talk) 00:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Incumbent succession boxes are used across Wikipedia. Why do you continually oppose this? GoodDay (talk) 00:27, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I have no problem with that, but the 'acting' phrase was usually written in a new row with lowercase letters. --Norden1990 (talk) 00:31, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
I was attempting to match it with the article's intro. GoodDay (talk) 00:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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Your deletions of media reactions from the Viktor Orban entry

The additions to the Viktor Orbán in the media section were every bit as much about Viktor Orban in the media as the portion that preceded them. There are hence no grounds for deleting them. There is mounting controversy about Viktor Orban in the media. The right thing to do is to present both sides, but not to delete the growing manifestations of controversy. There is a very serious historic moment for Hungary, and openness is crucial. Stevan Harnad 16:26, 11 March 2013 (UTC) User:Harnad Harnad (talk

I do not agree that the text should migrate there: it should really remain in the Viktor Orban entry. But I have now moved the passage you deleted where you asked, and left a pointer to it in the VO entry. Please do not delete the pointer again. --Stevan Harnad 19:20, 11 March 2013 (UTC) User:Harnad

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Transylvanian voivodes etc.

Hi. I welcome your additions to Mercurius of Transylvania and to other Transylvanian voivodes. I am fine with "Hungarian people categories" but if you add them, please don't replace the "Romania by century" categories with them, as there is no connection nor they are mutually exclusive in any way. The "by century" categories include the history of a mondern nation over centuries. See Category:Centuries in Italy for an example. Also, templates like {{which}} and {{where}} are to be added on top of, and are not the same with {{citation needed}}. Adding a reference to an author, doesn't eliminate automatically the WP:WEASEL words (i.e. "A medieval chronicle", "a document from 1918 etc") and the need to address them. For example, in Mercurius of Transylvania we need to clearly state the (historiographical) name of the chronicles or documents from 1199 and 1097 that are cited. It is not encyclopedic to just say "The title voivode was first documented in 1199". You have to say "The title voivode was first documented in the Papal letter from 1199 from Pope X." If the modern reference doesn't mention which document, than it is not good enough. If it does, please include the name of the documents discussed by those authors. Thanks and regards.--Codrin.B (talk) 12:13, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

You can see that "centuries in..." categories is for the events, wars, works etc. but not for the person. For example King Emeric was also in today's Hungary, Serbia, Austria, Croatia, Romania, Ukraine, Slovakia etc. Meaningless and nonsensical category for a person. --Norden1990 (talk) 12:45, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Okay, if you want to find the official archival codes of the documents, go ahead. I will not. I added reliable sources to these sentences, so no reason to delete this information. --Norden1990 (talk) 12:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
I do not believe it is meaningless to have people added in the relevant categories including the history of various modern nations. They are already added in many such "by century" categories sometimes in subcats like "18th century writers in Germany" or "11th century kings of England" etc. Indeed, the "by century" categories include many events, since that is how history is written, but they tend to encapsulate the history of a certain century and a certain modern country. It is very useful to group that information/ Remember WP:NOTPAPER so no harm is done by categorizing. The benefit is better navigation and allows readers and contributors to find information easier.
Regarding the references and information, I don't plan to remove anything. I never do unless is vandalism. I am an Inclusionist and Incrementalist ;-). I might look up those documents but I thought you might know more, since you added some of the refs. Plus, some references are in Hungarian which I don't speak.--Codrin.B (talk) 13:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
To the category problem: I understand your aim but "12th century in Romania" category is for events (battles) or offices, works. For example you can add here the article of Voivode of Transylvania, however its sub-category (Category:History of Transylvania (1003-1308)) also contains this article, so it would not be unfortunate. "11th century kings of England" is completely different thing, has been clearly established for persons. --Norden1990 (talk) 13:18, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK: Chief Justice of Hungary

Hi there. I've just reviewed the nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Chief Justice of Hungary. Many thanks for that, it looks like an excellent article. Looking at your talk page, I think that this is your first DYK nomination. If so, then you don't need to review a DYK as part of the review requirements (the first five DYK nominations are exempt, I think), but after that you would need to review someone else's DYK and note that at the nomination. One other thing - at the nomination, I mentioned that the sources are Hungarian and I was unable to check them. That is fine, but would you be able to either suggest those other than yourself who could review and verify Hungarian source, and/or suggest English-language sources on this topic if they exist. Such sources are not required, but would help. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 13:22, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply on my talk page. I'm returning here to let you know that I've tweaked the hook slightly, and I've made some copyedits here. If you could check you are happy with both of those, that would be great. It was interesting reading about this, as it reminded me of the brief bit of reading about the history of Austria-Hungary that I did while in Vienna back in 2005. I should dig out some of the books I have from that time, as the phrase 'Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen' always seemed rather impressive, and the whole relationship between Austria and Hungary (as they were then) really fascinating. Carcharoth (talk) 22:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the note. I have actually been to Hungary once as well, but unfortunately only passing briefly through Budapest (it is one of the European capitals I want to go back to eventually). I see from your user page that you are mainly interested in the history of Hungary in its pre-Trianon borders (I had not read that article about the Treaty of Trianon before), and I was wondering if you have much of an interest in the World War I period specifically? I have a general interest in the Great War (WWI), though mainly from a Western Front and UK perspective, and when I come across someone who may have access to sources in other countries that fought in that war, I try and ask about it. Filling in redlinks at a list such as List of Austro-Hungarian colonel generals is something I'd love to work on if sources were available in English, but I've not looked. The command structure of the armies and forces of countries that fought in that war is something else I have sources on, but sometimes the detail is not there. Anyway, this is all a long way from the Chief Justice article, so I'll stop there! Carcharoth (talk) 01:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Edits to Jobbik

Just a friendly note that you are approaching an edit war on this page. I have warned the other user involved, and will direct them towards the talk page to discuss this. Your cooperation will be apreciated. Mdann52 (talk) 12:25, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Constitution of Hungary DRN filing

A proposal to close the filing as stale has been floated at WP:DRN and in less than 48 hours will be acted upon unless there is significant objection. Please consider if the dispute is still active and respond if appropriate. Hasteur (talk) 03:18, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

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