User talk:NeilN/Archive 4

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RE:BarinStorm (sweden)

What do you mean nominated for deletion.. it's not my article. I'm not the author. --staka (T ・C) 05:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied here [1] --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 05:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Improper Usage

There is no improper usage of blocking formats, please stop harrassment immediately. --216.229.226.54 (talk) 18:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Other editors seem to disagree [2]. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about the spoiler...

I'd just seen the film last night and wanted to find some more info about it, when I saw the whole plot described I thought I should put a spoiler warning but didn't know the wiki policy for that. Shame my first edit was reverted within 3 mins of being posted, oh well. I'll have to read more of the rules before my next contribution. :) Nerd biker (talk) 21:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Television

hi neil, i cited The Los Angeles Times using the term "teevy" they are a reliable source. I lived in L. A. in 1980-1981 and you can go to the library and look at back issues from that era, you can verify it if that is a burning desire of yours.Sowff (talk) 04:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)SowffSowff (talk) 04:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied here [3] --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 04:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Television

Dear Neil:

I would not say it is trivial, as it is an alternate spelling for something that is the primary source of information for a large portion of the world. It it almost as if TV is held as so sacrosanct that any alternate spelling incurs hatred, hostility, disbelief, and antipathy. TV has become a god. Rock bands that do not have pretty lead singers flounder without the ambrosia of MTV's loving glare. Devo failed in part because it would not edit its music videos to please MTV. The Seattle band Tad had an obese lead singer named Tad Doyle and Sub Pop dropped them because they only aired on MTV once or twice on "120 Minutes." The "teevy" spelling once used by The LA Times drops the god down a few well-deserved notches. And, I see the word "emcee" is used fairly often instead of MC. Why is "teevy" not as accepted? It is not as trivial as first meets the eye, Neil.

It is trivial if the term was used by a brief period of time by one newspaper. And the word "emcee" is actually the correct spelling - see [4]. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 14:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey

It be best if you mind your own business please. Thank you. - Pekin Republican - April 22nd, 2008 2:39 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pekin Republican (talk • contribs) 06:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied here: [5] --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 06:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Da Kine

What did I do wrong with my entry? Should I delete the German reference to Da Kine which is almost certainly wrong, instead of disputing it with immigration data and personal experience? Should I not have Used my experience as a "native" user of Pidgeon? Of course I am new to the Wiki so I know I made mistakes. I just happened upon the article and notice that I had something to contribute to it and I felt that it was in general weak and had an error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbozon (talk • contribs) 17:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied here [6] --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Per your question

No disrespect to you: I would like to explain but not on a talk page. Maybe I just see this whole matter differently than you do. It seems like rules don't apply on Wikipedia anymore. Reply to my talk page.Agadant (talk) 02:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I was reading trying to figure it out- and went back to page and there it was-DONE. I thought I had lost it for sure!! Appreciate you so much! Agadant (talk) 20:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Court

What I wrote is true, look it up. lol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.114.249 (talk) 17:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Criminal Justice System

Again, I wrote the truth. In my country, Britain, we have a Criminal Justice System. A Criminal Justice System. Think about that for a moment. It's not the People's Justice System, not the English or British Justice system, but the Criminal Justice System. You think that's by chance? Think about it. Do you think the Government makes mistakes? The only mistake is that you're thinking they make mistakes. When they say criminal justice they know exactly what they're talking about; the criminals are in charge of the justice. That's why it's a Criminal Justice System. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.114.249 (talk) 17:14, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied here [7] --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 17:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

How am I being disruptive? Everything I said can be backed up by fact. I am writing the truth and I feel people should get the truth. You need to do your homework before you dismiss something as factually incorrect my friend.

WP:RS, WP:OR, WP:SYN, WP:SOAP (if the editor comes back after their block) --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 17:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 17:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Edit war on Vladimir Putin page

Dear NeilN, thank you for advising me on 3RR WP policy regarding edit wars. In my understanding, poorly sourced contentious material on living persons shall be speedily deleted without argument. The 3RR does not apply to such removals. Please see WP:BLP#Remove_unsourced_or_poorly_sourced_contentious_material for more details. You are right that in case of doubt I shall seek advice at the BLP noticeboard and I have every intent of doing so. Thank you again for your valuable input. Cfeet77 (talk) 19:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear NeilN, I also see you have been alleging violation of 3RR rule by me. This is at least the comment that you have put to your last revert on Vladimir Putin page. In my understanding this is a serious allegation. May I ask your exact sources to support your claim for violating the 3RR. I will be watching your talk page, or you can put your response to mine. Thank you. Cfeet77 (talk) 19:50, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

In my understanding, your hints of violating a 3RR applied to edits done in good faith can be understood as a personal attack. This why it is so important for me that you cite your sources and references to support the claim. Cfeet77 (talk) 19:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea where you are getting that edits done in good faith are not subject to 3RR. Please read the warning carefully - it says not to violate 3RR, not that you have violated 3RR (you are at 3 reverts BTW). I've also added comments here [8]. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 02:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Still by performing your revert you reinserted material of dubious nature. I again refer to the WP:BLP#Remove_unsourced_or_poorly_sourced_contentious_material policy that you seem to have violated. Please visit my talk page for more details. Cfeet77 (talk) 14:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I am referring to the comment that you have put to your revert on the Vladimir Putin page. It reads: "Undid revision 210158226 by Cfeet77 (talk) this certainly falls within WP:3RR". This can be understood as a hint that the 3RR rule has been violated by the editor whom you are reverting. I am not sure whether the obscure wording of your comment was intentional or due to negligence. If the latter is the case, may I ask you to be more careful with your wording in the future. As I emphasized previously, your obscure wording can be understood as a personal attack. Cfeet77 (talk) 15:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I stand by my wording as a response to your comment that your revert did not fall within 3RR. I suggest you read WP:NPA more carefully as my comment in no way could be construed as a personal attack. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, sounds fine with me. BTW, I am at 2 reverts, not 3 as you suggest. According to WP:3RR, "consecutive reverts by one editor are generally treated as one revert for the purposes of this rule", and one of the reverts you are referring to is a consecutive combination of two. Cfeet77 (talk) 19:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I also see that you have been more than selective in putting warnings to the talk pages of editors of the Vladimir Putin article. You will generously put warnings of violating 3RR to Putin proponents' pages and avoid putting warnings to Putin opponents' pages for similar (or in fact even more harmful) activity. For this reason I believe that your impartiality is broken. I would appreciate if you address this claim, too. Cfeet77 (talk) 15:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Who else do you feel should be warned? --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

You can check edits of Muscovite99. I feel he is performing his edits in bad faith and he is constantly attempting to disrupt the atmosphere on the talk page with aggressive tone. I can collect evidence for my words on demand. Cfeet77 (talk) 19:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not going to get involved in a dispute between you and Muscovite99. This article in only on my watchlist because I reverted some vandalism done to it earlier. If you check my contributions [9] you'll see my activity mainly consists of reverting vandalism and warning editors, removing unsourced info, and re-adding sourced info that was improperly removed (in my opinion). --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 19:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Why would you ask "who else do you feel should be warned" then? I am not inviting you to engage into a dispute with Muscovite99. I think we can deal with the problem of aggressive users without your intervention. Instead, I invite you to be impartial and apply equal and fair policies to all sides. That said, I feel that my claim concerning your broken impartiality is still not addressed. Cfeet77 (talk) 20:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

So I could decide if I wanted to get further involved. I really don't, beyond making sure sourced material stays in if appropriate and unsourced material stays out if appropriate. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 20:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Image credit

Please could you point out the guideline about only showing credit when the author is notable? I'd like to see it so I'll know in the future. In the case of NASA images, part of their image release license sates that their images must be credited. Also, the last I checked, NASA is notable. Thanks.—RJH (talk) 01:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Here: Wikipedia:Captions#Tips_for_describing_pictures. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 03:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.—RJH (talk) 16:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

my new page : Matthew S. Thomas

here it is a reference to my findings is that all i need to do?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Baseballkid721 (talk • contribs) 04:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

he once was on the dodgers and i dont know about any newspapers but probably in like san bernadino newspaper Baseballkid721 (talk) 04:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

ok well you have any pages that you made or do you just critic other pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Baseballkid721 (talk • contribs) 04:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

ya its fine but i was making an observation —Preceding unsigned comment added by Baseballkid721 (talk • contribs) 04:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

what was your favorite page you have seen so far?? --Baseballkid721 (talk) 04:33, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Alice Cooper

Peacock terms? Imperial Star Destroyer (talk) 18:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Wait, wait! Why did we have an edit war? The source was there all along! And I'm sure the author was just trying to make it more interesting. Oh, and don't bother telling me about the three-revert rule. Imperial Star Destroyer (talk) 18:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Nnng! So much for a short discussion... I was going to put in the source, then I realised that a link was put in the article. I really have no idea who Alice Cooper is. I just saw a user trying to be helpful. Imperial Star Destroyer (talk) 18:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks from Japan

The Barnstar of Peace

Thanks for the quick help in the Cooper issue. As you see, I had already added what I knew was needed in the article. Up-to-date with refrences. You are not ignorant but very clear on making Wikipedia a modern day source of up-to-date information on any subject.

Thanks! Electric Japan (talk) 06:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

"Per TW": please don't use in-group cryptic indicators

You removed a non-English language source from the article, Dawa, citing "per TW". Please do not use terms and abbreviations that only Wikipedia experts recognize. Use plain language and provide a link. At least cite a policy and guideline page, e.g., "WP:CITE". I tried finding "TW" by navigating to WP:TW, and it's not the pertinent topic. I still don't know what grounds you're referring to. Please explain yourself on the article talk page. Thank you. Hurmata (talk) 06:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied here: [10]

You revert the Shot Online Wiki.

All because it was a guide. Yet there are other Games on Wiki like World of Warcraft which is also considered a "Guide". Why is this?

wot is wikipedia

wot is wikipedias —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.154.142.15 (talk) 03:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Your reply to me

No, everything is cool, now. Thanks for everything. Do you still revert vandalism on the Van Morrison article? Or is there someone else who does? I check it occasionally and usually catch something in a day or so but will do so less frequently with summer coming on. Any info will be appreciated. Agadant (talk) 00:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Agadant (talk) 02:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Was I being threatening again?

I appreciate your help with this. Thanks for helping the anon read what I wrote. Darkspots (talk) 03:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Mo Rocca

Thanks for helping me keep an eye on this page. Not sure why this one user keeps targeting it. It's a little disturbing, actually! Chrissypan (talk) 17:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I've seen the text inserted into several different articles - no idea what the user is trying to prove. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:YouTube

Thanks for unreverting the comment about the servers on YouTube. People have commented on the frequent loading problems of YouTube videos, and it seems to be due to the huge demand at certain times of day (see Latency (engineering)). Other video sharing websites seem to be less prone to this problem, which is why the need to check other websites before blaming the computer or internet connection was mentioned. --♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

It was my mistake. I still wasn't quite awake yet and thought your edit was to the article. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 15:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Jesus

RE: see Talk:Jesus As a side, please remember to sign {use four ~'s} your posts to make it easier to respondLostinlodos (talk) 19:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Help fighting minor but irritating vandalism!

Hi there, I'm an inexperienced user; I removed a promotional link from the Bench page and then eventually figured out the person has been a repeat offender: User talk:Batam2008. I saw your note on his talk page, so I figured you might know what to do next. Thanks! Eeblet (talk) 02:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! :) Eeblet (talk) 02:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I figured it out!

Het sorry for the note i remeber how to converse. I'm not a vandal I'm the vandal buster neoonyalchemist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neoonyxalchemist (talk • contribs) 02:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Can You Look At Something Please?

Thanks for the note. I've sent a message to the WP Oversight group who look after any pages with too much personal info. If you find any more user pages like that, the best place to go is straight to Wikipedia:Requests_for_oversight - the overseers can permanently delete page info from the WP files, something which I can't do (as far as I know). Grutness...wha? 01:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

User:72.165.221.122

This user keeps vandalizing articles. Has been warned several times by different editors, and shows no signs of stopping. Needs to be blocked. Flyer22 (talk) 16:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Wait. I could have sworn that you're an administrator. I'll take this to one. Flyer22 (talk) 16:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Emma (Warning)

Please read the diff your warning shows, as you will see it is clearly not vandalism. Metagraph comment 05:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, Huggle does have its little malfunctions but i find it much faster and effective. Sorry for any confusion! Best wishes and happy editing, Metagraph comment 05:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit on George Clooney

Sir,

My cousin Norm actually married George Clooney's sister Ada. I am his actual cousin. Why the reversion of my edit? It's 100% factual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eroomlladnar (talk • contribs) 05:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Your Censoring

NeilN, you need to stop censoring and meddling in other peoples work because you think they don't follow your interpretation of the Wikipedia rules. What you are doing is despicable and getting other people very angry at you, look at some of the posts above. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Why don't you concentrate your energies into writing new articles instead of screwing around with other people's work. Leave the editing to others because you suck at it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.42.92.28 (talk) 17:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Replied here: [11] --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 17:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I re-blocked the editor for a week for block evasion and abuse. Acroterion _(talk) 17:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I was going to leave a note on your talk page after I saw your revert on Dell indicating the user was a sockpuppet but you had things all wrapped up before I could. Thanks. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

The IP's blocked for 24 hours. I've seen this editor before, or one like him, putting the same link in the article. Acroterion _(talk) 18:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Onassis

References are in the summary and in the reference at the and of the page. We wont flood all the document with citation in every line. Feel free to add citation if you want. Deleting serious work is counterproductive to wiki and cast away people that can help it grow —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.19.236.192 (talk) 21:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

In this case, you should delete the rest of the article without references. Almost everything —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Rio Brazil (talk • contribs) 22:07, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

The facts i wrote are in that page of the book. If you are not sure, you should by the book in amazon and read the pages I said. If there is any other way to put citations better than that, show me the way —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.19.114.104 (talk) 04:02, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

User 98.218.158.45

Though a shared IP address this is a user who has a personal vendetta against me and undid about 10-15 edits that I made. Just to let you know as you had asked in a comment next to one of your edits, thank you by the way, why this user was reverting all of these edits. It stems from the fact they had continuously vandalized Duncan, Oklahoma for a period of more than a year and a half before I finally moved to stop that person. We argued to one another via our talk pages and the user was gone for the last month as the page was protected. Now they have returned and this is the sad continuation of some poor person's cry for attention. Boston2austin (talk) 05:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

User did the same thing again. Can you please help me? Boston2austin (talk) 21:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

This person is at it again today. If you can't help me, can you at least tell me someone who can, this is becoming really aggravating. Boston2austin (talk) 17:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I really appreciate your efforts. Hopefully this situation won't happen again. Boston2austin (talk) 05:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Heads up re: Oni Ookami Alfador

This message is with regards to User talk:Oni Ookami Alfador#Dell which refers to me. After putting up with repeated personal attacks within Talk:Dell#Dell helping President Bush, Talk:Dell#Whining about jobs, and User talk:Arthur Smart/Archive 01#Talk:Dell, I have now decided to seek formal resolution, probably starting with a request for Wikipedia:Third opinion. I will be alleging his calling me a whiner, a hypocrite, and an irritant, and his templating a regular. Each time that I have request he cease his personal attacks, they only have continued.

If you wish to intercede prior to my taking formal action, that is fine. It is also fine if you decline to get involved. Thanks either way. --Art Smart (talk) 19:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Heading to WP:3O is probably best as I also disagree with your edit. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 20:39, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Will do. Your disagreement with my edit has nothing to do with the alleged personal attacks. The former is about the content, the latter is about the contributor. By convoluting the two issues you've convinced me that you couldn't be an unbiased third party, so WP:3O is best. Thanks anyway. --Art Smart (talk) 20:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought you were referring to the article. WP:3O usually deals with articles. WP:RFC deals with user conduct. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 20:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks again. --Art Smart (talk) 20:55, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Or try WP:WQA - it's usually quicker. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 20:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Much obliged. I've never before dealt with such persistent incivility before, so I'm a newbie to these ropes. Thanks again. --Art Smart (talk) 21:01, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Chris Long

I put a proposed, cut down, no-quote version on the talk page. Thoughts? It is a rough draft and I am sure a better writer could do better, but I am happy with it. Can we see if the others agree? I have a suspicion, but I will not say it now, I'll let the process move along.72.0.36.36 (talk) 16:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I think Pats1 does not agree. In the mean time thanks for posting what you did. At least some of it was put in. In the mean time Pats1 went to Jack Youngblood and bypassed the three of us on the talk page and just did all of his edits. He did it in a hurry and did none of the things I was told were to be done. It is my opinion that he will target other articles I have contributed to and just rip them with no WP:CONSENSUS. If have reported the incident but I am quite disheartened. I thank you for being reasonable. I think Pats1 is simply trying to make and point and take out his anger on me and my work. Thanks for your suggestion. It was a good one. Too bad it didn't work.72.0.36.36 (talk) 03:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Brown Eyed Girl

Hi! NeilN: I was wondering if you can put this article on your vandalism watch list. This user: 129.1.59.62 repeatedly has put an obscene comic book reference into the article. I warned them once and now put vandalism warning on their talk page but I doubt if they will go away. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Agadant (talk) 23:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 00:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, NeilN... Agadant (talk) 01:45, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Dave

Hi there. Thanks for your contributions to the Dave article. Unfortunately they go against the Manual of Style for Disambiguation Pages (MOS:DAB) which says that there should only ever be one blue link per line on a disambiguation page. I have reverted your edit. This isn't intended as an insult (I made the same mistake myself in the past)i just wanted to make you aware of the guidelines. Take care. -- JediLofty ^User_Talk 08:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 12:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Shot Online

Hello, you removed something I added back to the article. Are character classes against wikipedia guidlines? If so could you point me to it? I restored these (with the plan to improve them) on the basis world of warcraft lists character classes. I figured I was going to use that article as a base. Thanks. Virek (talk) 03:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, didn't know it was an exact copy. It won't be re-added again. Virek (talk) 03:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I cut down the page a good amount and rewrote the sections. I need to get additional sources later as I'm at work and all the game news sites are blocked. Let me know if you have any recommendations so far. :) Virek (talk) 08:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I have finished revamping the article. I have removed all tags. Feel free to re-add tags if you feel necessary. I'm also not the best writer in the world, so feel free to correct any text. Virek (talk) 09:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Message

Sent you email as my discussion was too long and detailed to put here. Agadant (talk) 18:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Van Morrison setlist

I don't understand why you've deleted this section on the Van Morrison page. The section would have had to be modified every concert if it had been entitled "setlist of Van Morrison's last concert", but I didn't put that. Also, about it being encyclopedic, the section that used to be above it "Band members of some date in June" is just as encyclopedic as what I put, so I suggest that if the section I wrote was deleted that section should be as well. I also put a reference to a very reliable Van Morrison website on it, that makes it much more reliable than the band members section.--Kitchen roll (talk) 19:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Steve Allen LBC Presenter content

You rightly admonished me for adding unsourced material which could be viewed as controversial (I am a new and naive contributor), but when I included the source you still removed it, saying I need a source. What have I done wrong with the source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.254.246 (talk) 15:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

I included the link to the LBC podcasts and I included the date of the transmission containing the quoted text. I could not directly link to the podcast in question because it is done via a java applet. Click on the "James Max" link on the left of the podcast screen and then select the podcast of the date shown. Messy, admittedly, but verifiable. I can send you an audio clip of the relevant section if it helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.254.246 (talk) 16:09, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

The other citation you asked about - was it to support the abrasive persona or the generous nature? The diabetes section could be referenced to podcasts again, but I'll see if it's in any of his LBC blogs to make it easier to verify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.254.246 (talk) 16:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

The diabetes reference has been added and the section restored now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.254.246 (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2008 (UTC)