User talk:Mr.Z-man/Archive 13
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Script
Hi there. I used your AFD closure script as the basis for a script to close FPCs (User:Jujutacular/closeFPC). I noticed that the script removes from the user's watchlist the pages that are edited. While not as big a deal with your script, it's a little cumbersome for mine. Do you know why this happens / any way to fix it? Thanks. Jujutacular talk 17:38, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Remove
&unwatch=1
from the line:var params = "action=edit&format=json&token="+encodeURIComponent(token)+"&title="+encodeURIComponent(title)+"&text="+encodeURIComponent(newtext)+"¬minor=1&unwatch=1&summary="+encodeURIComponent(summary);
- in closeFPC_editPage. Mr.Z-man 22:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! Jujutacular talk 22:26, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer Science/Popular pages
Can you change the name of the page that the report gets generated to from Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer Science/Popular pages to Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science/Popular pages as the project name is Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science (with a lowercase s). Thanks. -- WOSlinker (talk) 19:24, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
- Can you also change Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of life/Popular pages to Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Popular pages (captial L). Thanks. -- WOSlinker (talk) 21:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Done Mr.Z-man 06:28, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Help
There is something wrong with Wikipedia:WikiProject Kazakhstan/Popular pages and can you create pages for Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/Popular pages and Wikipedia:WikiProject Soviet Union/Popular pages. --TIAYN (talk) 19:23, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- This is because the project doesn't actually have any pages categorized. I've removed it from the list; it can be re-added when they have an assessment system. Please request the others here. Mr.Z-man 06:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Reftools dates
The dates aren't showing correctly ([1]) and I think it's because it used to be "|date= March 15, 2009" but now it's "date=10|month=October|year=2010". Marcus Qwertyus 22:17, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- ^ "Emerging Technologies". 10.
{{cite web}}
: Check date values in:|date=
and|year=
/|date=
mismatch (help); Unknown parameter|month=
ignored (help)
- So ... use "|date= March 15, 2009" instead? Mr.Z-man 00:55, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Question
When will Wikipedia:WikiProject Soviet Union/Popular pages and Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/Popular pages start working? The project says they have been added, but the have not been given their own wiki page yet. --TIAYN (talk) 17:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- This is answered in the FAQ. Mr.Z-man 18:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
refToolbar bug
Hello, I've localised refToolbar to the Finnish Wikipedia. In the making I found that there's a bug in User:Mr.Z-man/refToolbar_2.0/base.js. On the fifth last row
row.append(check).append(' &ndash ').append(label);
it should probably read
row.append(check).append(' – ').append(label);
or the browser (FF 3.6) does not show the intended dash. --hydrox (talk) 22:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Fixed Thanks for pointing this out. Mr.Z-man 23:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. While I am at it, I could also point out that I found some usability bugs with the code as well:
- Detecting references with same content does not seem to work.
- Detecting for usage of named references that are not found does not seem to work.
- After runnning the error check on the page, I can not open the list of named references anymore before reloading the page.
- A quick fix would be to allow hiding the error checker altogether from CiteTB.Options until the bugs are fixed, as it is not that necessary feature. --hydrox (talk) 00:02, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. While I am at it, I could also point out that I found some usability bugs with the code as well:
Some time ago I made a request to get a popular pages list for WP:SPACEFLIGHT, and it doesn't seem to have worked. This may because our assessment categories are inconsistently named, slightly; the WikiProject's category is Category:WikiProject Spaceflight articles, but the assessment categories are with lowercase "s", such as Category:B-Class spaceflight articles. Is this the problem? Should we rename the categories? thanks, Mlm42 (talk) 00:07, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- This is answered in the FAQ. Mr.Z-man 00:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- What a mysterious reply.. I assume you mean the answer to why the page hasn't been created yet. That doesn't exactly answer my question: "Should we rename the categories?", but I'll assume from your response the answer is "no". sorry for taking your time, Mlm42 (talk) 00:20, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, could you please create a list of popular pages for Slovenia too? Thanks a lot. --Eleassar my talk 10:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Popular pages
How come you can't view the popular pages for December? http://toolserver.org/~alexz/pop/view.php Kaldari (talk) 18:44, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
- The setup script failed. I fixed it and re-ran it. The table is rebuilding now. I'll take a few days to catch up. Mr.Z-man 04:06, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Template:Expand has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. 134.253.26.6 (talk) 22:58, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Rename
Just to tell you, we renamed the wikiproject, from Wikipedia:WikiProject Cultural Property of Great Importance to Wikipedia:WikiProject Cultural Heritage of Serbia. And per that, Wikipedia:WikiProject Cultural Property of Great Importance/Popular pages has been moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Cultural Heritage of Serbia/Popular pages. Is this enough for continuation of popular pages? Thanks in advance! --WhiteWriter speaks 21:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notice, I've updated the bot's information. Mr.Z-man 21:43, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
thank you
I started discussion there, and then I wrote how I was wrong and that the number of protections is actually not that high, but some users do like to argue about nonsense. Thanks for ending it. 188.2.160.70 (talk) 23:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Hot articles bot request
Please see Wikipedia:Bot requests#.22Hot articles.22 bot for Wikiprojects. Thanks! Kaldari (talk) 22:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Invitation to join WikiProject United States
--Kumioko (talk) 03:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
B-Class Assessment
Greetings. I'm trying to set up a Popular pages service for WikiProject Outlines, but due to its nature, the project doesn't have a true assessment system. Therefore, we don't have a "B Class Assessment Category," something that the Toolserver form requires. Is there some way for us to bypass the requirement of a category? Or perhaps some way to create a null category to put in the field? Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. Robert Skyhawk (T C B) 00:23, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
RefTools proposal
FYI: Wikipedia:Village_pump (proposals)#Proposal - Turn on RefTools gadget by default. By the way, I was wondering if RefTools is GPL or some other license. It doesn't say on the documentation page. Some people have suggested merging it into the core editing interface. Thoughts? Kaldari (talk) 00:33, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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The Citation Barnstar | |
For improving citations by proxy. What an awesome tool you have there (fnar fnar). FormerIP (talk) 02:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC) |
Do you think it would be possible to make it work with profession specific styles such as APA style? It's basically similar to Harvard, but it seems to me that, if people want to deviate from the standard templates then wanting to stick with the way that is suitable to a given article has more merit than just preferring a certain style. --FormerIP (talk) 02:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hello, my reftools is not showing for some reason. Even though I ticked the option in my preferences. Can you help me?--NovaSkola 16:46, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- This should be fixed. Bypass your cache. Mr.Z-man 16:58, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hello, my reftools is not showing for some reason. Even though I ticked the option in my preferences. Can you help me?--NovaSkola 16:46, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Script peculiarity?
The autopatrol script you made for me is doing something odd - it takes me to a weirdly-formatted page reporting that the top entry on the list has just been patrolled, instead of doing the work in the background.
Just started doing that this morning. Any idea what's changed? DS (talk) 15:09, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- Seriously, it's been doing this for a week now, thereby increasing the number of page-fetchings I need to do (and thus the overall server load) by some tiny but real amount. I completely understand that you're busy, and I know that making this for me in the first place was an act of good will on your part, but could you give me an idea of when you'll be able to get around to having a look? Thanks. DS (talk) 14:02, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hopefully by this weekend. Mr.Z-man 15:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. DS (talk) 22:58, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Should hopefully be fixed now, just bypass your cache. Mr.Z-man 18:10, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Not quite - it says 'Finished!' before it's actually finished. Sometimes I need to reload and re-click a few times before it gets them all (and on occasion it persistently leaves one last item untouched). Not urgent, but could use some fixing. DS (talk) 14:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Should hopefully be fixed now, just bypass your cache. Mr.Z-man 18:10, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Template:MPRP has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. — This, that, and the other (talk) 03:04, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the note. Hobit (talk) 01:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Notable Personalities Missing
Hi. This list is pretty comprehensive and very commendable. However I still feel that this list misses India's most notable female playback singers like K. S. Chitra, S. Janaki, P. Susheela L. R. Eswari and Vani Jayaram. May I know the exact reason behind this? Are these project pages not maintained according to the required standards? Arrwiki (talk) 10:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Just a note, in the future, it helps if you specify what you're talking about when you say things like "this list", though in this case I'm guessing it's Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian music/Popular pages. I haven't checked the others, but K. S. Chithra is not included because it is not tagged as being part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian music on the talk page, it's probably the same reason for the others. Mr.Z-man 15:45, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
RefTools localization
Howdy Z-man, What do you think about splitting MediaWiki:RefToolbarLocal.js into a configuration file for the local wiki and a messages file for the user's language? That way we could switch the messages file based on the value of wgUserLanguage without having to duplicate the configuration stuff for each language. If we are going to push this out to a wider user-base it would be nice if we could localize it for the top 4 or 5 user languages on en.wiki first. Thoughts? Kaldari (talk) 00:26, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- That would probably be a good way to do it. It could also allow for fallback by having a "default" language. Mr.Z-man 00:56, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've set up a totally localizable version at MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js (includes MediaWiki:RefToolbar/base.js and MediaWiki:RefToolbarConfig.js. An example of a message translation file for it can be seen at MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-en.js. You'll notice that labels are now specified for all fields and set via a naming convention ('cite-<param>-label') rather than explicitly (since in languages other than English all the fields will need to have labels that are different than the parameter names). Please take a look and let me know if this looks good and if anything needs to be changed. I'm going to go ahead and put all the messages up on translatewiki so we can get translations in the meantime. Once this is ready to be deployed, would you prefer for it to remain in your user space or should I move it all into MediaWiki space? I would prefer moving it all to MediaWiki space, but it's up to you. Kaldari (talk) 20:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm waiting on the 1.17 + ResourceLoader deployment before moving forward on this. Kaldari (talk) 19:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've set up a totally localizable version at MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js (includes MediaWiki:RefToolbar/base.js and MediaWiki:RefToolbarConfig.js. An example of a message translation file for it can be seen at MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-en.js. You'll notice that labels are now specified for all fields and set via a naming convention ('cite-<param>-label') rather than explicitly (since in languages other than English all the fields will need to have labels that are different than the parameter names). Please take a look and let me know if this looks good and if anything needs to be changed. I'm going to go ahead and put all the messages up on translatewiki so we can get translations in the meantime. Once this is ready to be deployed, would you prefer for it to remain in your user space or should I move it all into MediaWiki space? I would prefer moving it all to MediaWiki space, but it's up to you. Kaldari (talk) 20:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't had time to really look at it, the only thing that we would need to make sure of is that it's still possible to add custom templates via user JS pages, and ideally, that any existing ones will still continue to work. Mr.Z-man 20:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
thanks
Awesome. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 20:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Geotagged articles needing images
Hello can you put a link to http://toolserver.org/~myst/coord/ in the page of your tool (http://toolserver.org/~alexz/). This is the french version of your tool (for fr.wikipedia.org). Also thanks you for this tool . Binnette (talk) 20:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
AFD script
Your AFD script appears to use a wrong link when closing a 2nd or subsequent discussion without deleting the page — it adds the oldafdfull template to the article talk page with a link to the first AFD discussion rather than the current one. Do you think you could fix it when you get a chance? Stifle (talk) 13:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
RefTools
Hello Mr.Z-man. Are you able to tell me where the proposal to put RefTools on everybody's edit box is at? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 14:46, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 68#Proposal - Turn on RefTools gadget by default Kaldari (talk) 20:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Discussion moved to MediaWiki talk:Common.js where I just saw this comment
So it looks imminent. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 03:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)As suggested by Mr.Z-man above, I believe we should wait until MediaWiki 1.17 is deployed (which includes ResourceLoader) before turning this on. It was supposed to be deployed last week, but it's been delayed until this Wednesday. Kaldari (talk) 20:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Discussion moved to MediaWiki talk:Common.js where I just saw this comment
- I seem to have created a monster :) Now that 1.17 is out, everyone is hounding me about pushing this live. If you could take a look at the new code at MediaWiki:RefToolbarLoader.js, MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js, MediaWiki:RefToolbar/base.js, MediaWiki:RefToolbarConfig.js, etc, I would be most grateful. The only things I've changed are making all the messages localizable and adding some more tooltips for various params. If it looks OK, the first thing I'd like to do is replace the gadget code in your Username space with the new localizable code, so that a bigger group of people can test it. If that goes smoothly, we can see about switching it on for everyone. Does that sound good to you? Kaldari (talk) 02:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. I won't be very available for the next few days though, so you might have to do any fixes/answer any questions. I made a change about an hour ago to the current gadget loader to work around a problem following the 1.17 deployment. You may also want to load the old version if the toolbar is disabled. Mr.Z-man 02:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- How's this look: MediaWiki:RefToolbarLoader.js? Kaldari (talk) 03:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good. Mr.Z-man 03:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- How's this look: MediaWiki:RefToolbarLoader.js? Kaldari (talk) 03:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. I won't be very available for the next few days though, so you might have to do any fixes/answer any questions. I made a change about an hour ago to the current gadget loader to work around a problem following the 1.17 deployment. You may also want to load the old version if the toolbar is disabled. Mr.Z-man 02:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Help! Please restore the 1.0 reftoolbar or provide a way for me to add it to my custom Javascript. The new one is simply not working for me. I need the old tool editing toolbar which had cite and ref icons which when I clicked instantly displayed a form for the various templates such as {{cite web}}. That just worked. This has all changed in the last two days. The new one just makes my Firefox browser status bar display "transferring data from wiki.riteme.site..." forever. Could the preferences gadget bar include both 1.0 and 2.0 versions? Arrgh. I am now having to copy old versions of the javascript... -84user (talk) 10:24, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I can now get the old reftool back, so I'm striking through the above plea -84user (talk) 13:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for joining the discussion here (oldid) on WP:VPT. I can now get the {{CITE}} button to work and it is an improvement on what had become, for me, close to essential. It looks to me it works in MonoBook but not Vector. The positioning of the toolbar itself needs seeing to but that is, I dare say, someone else's problem. I used to work in software development and deployment so I know some of the underlying issues though none of the technicalities in this case. It can be easier to get something working in the first place than to keep it working as the environment changes. Best wishes and thank you again. Thincat (talk) 11:05, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have struck through the plea I made above, because the old reftool now works for me with this combination (or else something got fixed in the meantime):
- Preferences / Editing / Advanced options : ON: Show edit toolbar (requires JavaScript)
- Preferences / Editing / Beta features : OFF: all options
- Preferences / Gadgets / Editing gadgets : ON: refTools
- The above preferences gives me the old edit toolbar plus the old Cite icon and they all work fast and with no fuss! -84user (talk) 13:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Reftoolbar named refs
Is there some problem with Reftoolbar, named refs? I don't know anything about it, myself - but, please, could you look at User_talk:Brewcrewer#Rabbi_Pinto and comment there? Thanks, Chzz ► 18:45, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Aha, I should've read up :-) Cool bananas, all sorted, thanks. Chzz ► 19:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Talkback
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Hi there. You were a great help in fixing the 'watchlist' issue I had on this script this past November. For some reason, it has started happening again. It seemed to happen when this Resource Loader was added. I didn't think it would affect my script, but perhaps it has. Any ideas? Jujutacular talk 00:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Femto Bot 4
Just a note to draw you attention to the above task which is awaiting BAG input.
pp. Rich Farmbrough, Femto Bot, (possibly the smallest bot in the world) 23:37, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
RefTools Gadget fixed
Finally got the last bit of the RefTools Gadget fixed (AFAIK): MediaWiki:Gadget-refToolbar.js. Kaldari (talk) 02:24, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Barring any other problems cropping up, I'm planning on doing the sitewide deployment (and deprecating the gadget) on Monday. Kaldari (talk) 19:28, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- RefTools has now been rolled out globally: MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.js. If no problems are reported, I'll probably deprecate the gadget tomorrow. Kaldari (talk) 23:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
A small problem with the closeAFD script
Hello. I noticed one little annoying problem with this script today. When I used it to perform a non-admin closure of an AfD discussion because the related article had already been speedy deleted, the script re-created the article's talk page even though it noticed that the article no longer existed. As a result, I had to go to that talk page and tag it for G8 speedy re-deletion. So when you get a chance, could you resolve this issue? Thanks. --SoCalSuperEagle (talk) 22:29, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Hey, could you rerun User:Mr.Z-man/newusers over februari 2011?
Hey, I had a look at your research on new users. Really interesting stuff. It also provides statistical backup for the 80% deletion rate of articles created by new users. Any change you could rerun the script over last month? I am curious whether these numbers have changed in a year and it would provide excellent backup for when a serious proposal is launched for raising the article creation bar to autoconfirmed. Yoenit (talk) 09:05, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Notification: changes to "Mark my edits as minor by default" preference
Hello there. This is an automated message to tell you about the gradual phasing out of the preference entitled "Mark all edits minor by default", which you currently have (or very recently had) enabled.
On 13 March 2011, this preference was hidden from the user preferences screen as part of efforts to prevent its accidental misuse (consensus discussion). This had the effect of locking users in to their existing preference, which, in your case, was true
. To complete the process, your preference will automatically be changed to false
in the next few days. This does not require any intervention on your part and you will still be able to manually mark your edits as being minor in the usual way.
For established users such as yourself there is a workaround available involving custom JavaScript. With the script in place, you can continue with this functionality indefinitely (its use is governed by WP:MINOR). If you have any problems, feel free to drop me a note.
Thank you for your understanding and happy editing :) Editing on behalf of User:Jarry1250, LivingBot (talk) 19:21, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Broken patrol script
The patrol script isn't working right at all: clicking the 'patrol' link from the queue yields "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again."
It still works if I go into the page, though.
<Dragonfly6-7> thedj - would you know whether there have been any changes lately that could have broken the script? There have been, there haven't been, don't know?
<thedj> Dragonfly6-7: i believe the old method is deprecated and the script should use the api
<thedj> actually it should have been using that since over a year
<thedj> bug the tech village pump, or the script maintainer.
... so I'm bugging you. Fix please? Thanks. DS (talk) 15:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Seriously, this is causing some major clogs in dealing with the other namespaces. Can you take care of this please? Thank you. DS (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
- Ah. Sorry about that, all problems resolved. Thank you for updating the script; it's already proving quite useful. DS (talk) 13:11, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
- ... and it seems broken again. I click on 'patrol' and the little swirly icon appears... and doesn't vanish. And the 'unpatrolled' tag doesn't get removed. Perhaps something got changed to deactivate this? Argh, argh, and a third time argh. DS (talk) 13:23, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
The problem is that the rcid.php script is hanging on the toolserver, and then the local JS gets stuck waiting for that response. There is some sort of DB trouble on the toolserver right now (too many DB connections), which is probably the cause of this. — Carl (CBM · talk) 13:56, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Popular pages bot feature request
Hello. I was just wondering if you could add a feature to your popular pages bot. Would it be possible to indicate how many pages there are in the project at the time when the bot is run monthly (as in the number of pages used to calculate the "Total hits for project")? I'd imagine you already have this data and it shouldn't too difficult, as the bot wouldn't require modification - just the query page. It could be displayed on the toolserver when a query is run to display the "summary count of the views for all pages in the project" in the same box as "Total hits for project". With this information, the projects can get a better idea about the average popularity over time. Thanks. --Scott Alter (talk) 04:38, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Done Mr.Z-man 22:45, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Scott Alter (talk) 02:58, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Linkrot discussion
I drafted a new RfC. Please take a look and comment. –SJ+ 20:58, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
RefToolbar 2.0
I am currently using the version of RT that comes by default, and I highly recommend you label the "Work" parameter for {{cite news}} "Newspaper" instead. This issue has been brought up before, and I believe it was fixed for the past version of RT. However, the default version now needs to be changed because, to a picky person like me, "The New York Times" is not the same as "The New York Times" (without italics). Thanks. Guoguo12--Talk-- 22:26, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Popular pages requests
Hi there! I was wondering if you could clarify a snag I ran into when trying to use this form (your talk page is listed as "contact" in the navigational pane). The editors at WP:RUSSIA recently established a number of topic-specific taskforces. One of the things we wanted to implement was a listing of popular pages for each of those taskforces. Looking at the request form, I see that it asks for the B-class assessment category. I don't understand why it's only B-class, but guess that it's just an example, and the rest of the cats (FA/FL/GA/etc.) will be modeled after this one, right? Another thing is that none of our taskforces implements a taskforce-specific quality rating system—those are the same as the generic quality assessments entered into the {{WikiProject Russia}} banner. In other words, all B-class articles can be found in Category:B-Class Russia articles, and all taskforce-specific articles (regardless of the quality assessment) can be found in separate categories such as Category:History of Russia task force articles, so the popularity listings would theoretically be compiled from the intersection of these two cats.
So, with this in mind, my question is basically whether it is even possible to establish a popular pages listing for a taskforce without having to implement a quality category for each taskforce? If so, how do I go about submitting an appropriate request? I would appreciate any help or advice you could give me. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 17, 2011; 16:28 (UTC)
- You're correct. It just asks for the B-class category so it can get the naming scheme (some small projects may not have every category, but almost all have B). Unfortunately it isn't currently possible to run it for projects without at least one quality category (even if its just "unassessed") as the bot generates the lists using the quality categories. Mr.Z-man 22:30, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. It obviously isn't what I wanted to hear :), but we'll figure something else out. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 21, 2011; 13:34 (UTC)
- I saw you added the Tropical Cyclone project to the popular pages tool recently. Could you do the same to the meteorology project? It would help in figuring out which articles have the greatest need for improvement. Thanks. Thegreatdr (talk) 16:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Bot
Well, I'm thinking about submitting a bot request for updating the List of The Simpsons couch gags evry week. It would add the episode to the page when the couch gag and all the info comes out on wikipedia. I would want your opinion and to help me with the coding. I am not that good at it. I just started. ~~EBE123~~ talkContribs 15:20, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Autoconformation RfC
A formal Request for Comment has now been started on this topic. Feel free to contribute; best, Ironholds (talk) 19:27, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Autoconfirmation trial
Hi Mr.Z-man,
It looks like there is significant, but not overwhelming support for a trial of requiring editors to be autoconfirmed before creating articles. Thinking about the PC debacle, I am very worried that any such trial is going to be another poorly designed disaster. Would you be willing to work with me on outlining a decent test plan, with the idea that it need not be presented unless a trial really is wanted? WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Request on newusers
Hi, could you take a look at this request ? Thanks, Cenarium (talk) 15:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Script problem
I installed your script, User:Mr.Z-man/patrollinks.js but some times when I click the patrol link it says Error: Page deleted when the page isn't even deleted. Baseball Watcher 22:45, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Problem with WikiProject Women's History popular pages list
I put in a request for this on March 21st. It doesn't appear on the pending requests queue but so far no list either. On April 21st I created Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History/Popular pages with only the header and a List section with nothing below it, thinking perhaps the lack of the target page was causing the delay. But still no list as of today. Did the request get lost in the shuffle, or is the page I created the problem? Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, creating the page will stop the bot from creating it. It will be created at the end of this month. Mr.Z-man 22:21, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
bot timeout
sorry, I did not see your message until now. Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MdupontBot anything I can do now? mike James Michael DuPont (talk) 14:39, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've reopened the request. Mr.Z-man 22:21, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
WikiProject Wikipedia reliability invitation
Hi, Would you like to add your name to and join Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia reliability? I am trying to get people to join that project to start a process where we talk about, look at, measure and improve content reliability. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 08:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
WikiProject Fictional characters popular pages
In April the fictional characters WikiProject requested to have the popular pages feature thing show up Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional characters/Popular pages. Unfortunately, after the next month rolled by, nothing seemed to happen. Do you know what went wrong? Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
- It will be created at the end of this month. Mr.Z-man 22:21, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you
As a member of Wikipedia: WikiProject Disability, I thought I would thank you for preparing a list of the most popular disability articles. I see Asperger's syndrome is up there - I have looked at that article a lot, so I contributed to that! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:15, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Conservatism popular pages
Just wanted to confirm you received the request. Didn't see anything in [1]. Lionel (talk) 02:45, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's not in the list, try submitting it again. Mr.Z-man 03:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
The article that won't die
Aaron Sanders is the article that won't die. It was deleted on May 8. It was recreated and deleted again on May 18. It was recreated as a redirect on May 20, and then null edited today. It still, however shows up in any database/toolserver/bot search! See the CatScan search and Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/uBLPs 2009 08. The toolserver page shows a "last change" time of 20110523154919. Bizarro World. Any ideas? The-Pope (talk) 13:25, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Help with some Wikipedia-related research?
Hi Mr. Z-man. My name is Sanjay, and I'm a 1st-year PhD student working on a project aimed at improving the quality of scientific articles on Wikipedia by providing easier access to relevant published refereed articles. I found you on the list of Wikipedians with access to Web of Science and JSTOR, so I figured that you must frequently reference such articles in your work on Wikipedia. If you are interested in lending your expertise and advice to this research effort, I have posted a set of questions on my talk page - I would greatly appreciate your taking the time to answer any or all of them. The answers will help inform the design of a tool which I believe will benefit the Wikipedia community. Thanks! Sanjaykairam (talk) 18:28, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Animal rights
Hi Mr Z-man, would you be willing to create Wikipedia:WikiProject Animal rights/Popular pages? SlimVirgin TALK|CONTRIBS 03:22, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Please can you expand the list from 800 to 1500 for future runs. Also can the May list be rerun with 1500 ? Psychology is a big subject and a longer list would be helpful. Thanks. --Penbat (talk) 13:05, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
A configuration change request has been made. http://toolserver.org/~alexz/pop/requests.php --Penbat (talk) 08:22, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Q re custom lists of Popular pages
Please see Wikipedia:Help_desk#Can i create my own personal Wiki project ?. Ta. Chzz ► 10:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC) ...aaand, I just saw the section above. Meh! :-) Chzz ► 10:48, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
closeAfD
This is a total n00b question and I apologize profusely for it, but I can't figure out what I did wrong installing your closeAfd tool; I put it in my monobook.js and cleared my cache, but I still don't see the tabs. (I use Vector - might that be why?) Sorry, sorry. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:38, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Vector_hidden_move_button.jpg)
- Yes, Roscelese. Stick it in User:Roscelese/vector.js, do the 'hard refresh' thing, and it should magically appear if you go to an AfD page (example) - it'll be in the same place as 'move', in that drop-down thingy - see pic of where 'move' is, here - it should have 'close' and 'relist' under 'move'.
- (I just checked, myself - it seems to work fine under Vector)
- "monobook.js" is only loaded if you use the monobook skin; "vector.js" if you use vector. The documentation hasn't been updated.
- Alternatively, you could switch to monobook - because Vector is horrible :-)
- Hope that helps, Chzz ► 13:56, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'd tried that as well when it didn't work in monobook and just tried it in Vector again, but still nothing. Could it be that it's not working because I also have Twinkle config in there? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Try putting it on the very first line, instead of at the end. Make sure you "bypass your browser's cache to see the changes", make sure you look for it on an actual AfD page, under the 'move' drop-down thingy described. Let me know (here). Chzz ► 16:53, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- There we go! I think I must have needed to put it on the first line. Thanks! Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:23, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yay, result. Mr.Z-man, sorry for poking in, but WP:TPS is a Good Thing™, I think :) Chzz ► 03:00, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'd tried that as well when it didn't work in monobook and just tried it in Vector again, but still nothing. Could it be that it's not working because I also have Twinkle config in there? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Project Penbat
On my User:Penbat page i have a manually edited highly truncated version of Wikipedia:WikiProject Psychology/Popular pages just listing those articles which specifically interest me. Not sure if it is feasible but it would be very useful if this truncated listed could be generated automatically by your bot. It occurs to me that 2 possible approaches are either to tag articles required to be included with a special non-visible category called "Penbat" or alternatively have a simple editable text file listing the articles required to be included.--Penbat (talk) 08:31, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Just occurred to me that if the bot just processed my own list, it would lose the rank numbers within the psychology project - not essential but would have been useful. Another approach might be to use some sort of filter utility which processed the values in field 2 for the psychology project list, and discarded the entry if field 2 didnt match a name in my article list.--Penbat (talk) 15:05, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- No, this isn't currently possible. As the bot is currently designed, it would take a significant amount of work to make it work with something other than a Wikiproject. Mr.Z-man 18:06, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK then my filter utility idea must still be feasible. It seems like an obvious database, Unix or DOS utility to filter a database, outputting to another file only those entries where field 2 matched one of the permissible values listed in a separate input file. I dont know what to actually use though.--Penbat (talk) 18:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
closeAFD
Howdy! Could you possibly edit this script so if the article page does not exist, it will not create the talk page to put the old deletion discussion template during a non admin closure? Here is what brought this up: There was an AFD where the article was speedy deleted by an admin but the AFD was no closed. I saw the red link in the AFD and used the script to close it. The "Delete" button was greyed out, so I had to use the "Other button". At that point, all I had available to me was the "Do not delete" button, after entering the other rationale of course. The script created a talk page for the deleted article with the template and I so I ended up tagging it for speedy deletion. So, any chance of a fix? I know it's a crazy unique situation and understandable if it's not worth the time.--v/r - TP 02:35, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
As you were very involved with the recent proposal to require autoconfirmed status for article creation. I figured you might be interested in the draft of the trial. It's pretty well ground to a halt, and if we want to move forward we need more voices; I thought you might be interested. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:52, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Can the most popular rating be generated for this wikiproject too? Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:22, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Mr.Z-bot and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History/Popular pages
Hi there. Between the 15th and 20th of June, we removed our project banner from the talk pages of many many articles which were out of scope for our project, hundreds in fact. But the latest run (June 30th) is still showing all these articles in the top 500. Any suggestions? Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:16, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- The information is not updated in realtime. It generates the list of articles at the beginning of the month. Mr.Z-man 17:37, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- So the July 1st update to the page was based on the list as at June 1st. Presumably next month's list will reflect the debannering we did in mid-June? Voceditenore (talk) 08:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, that is correct. Mr.Z-man 17:04, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- So the July 1st update to the page was based on the list as at June 1st. Presumably next month's list will reflect the debannering we did in mid-June? Voceditenore (talk) 08:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject Animation/Cartoon Network work group/Popular pages
Wikipedia:WikiProject Animation/Cartoon Network work group/Popular pages, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Animation/Cartoon Network work group/Popular pages and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:WikiProject Animation/Cartoon Network work group/Popular pages during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 07:50, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Question
Regarding your bot that generates the "popular pages" lists for each wikiproject, can it generate a "popular pages" list for a task force within a wikiproject if the pages under its jurisdiction have their talk pages labeled as such? For an example of what I mean see Talk:Gari (ginger) and note the Japanese food taskforce label on the Wikiproject Japan template. I'm with Wikiproject Dinosaurs and would like to set up a popular pages list for each of the major dinosaur groups so we can better assess our coverage. Abyssal (talk) 02:07, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Popular page tracking
In the Popular page tracking [2], an apostrophe in a title produces "&#.039;", which gives "no results found" [3]. However, replacing it with an apostrophe in the address bar gives the pageviews [4]. How to skip the extra step? -Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
refToolbar
We were using the refToolbar in ml.wikipedia. But now it is not working. I have done everything as described here but no result. The 'Cite' menu as in en.wiki, is not appearing there. Please help.
Regards --Vssun (talk) 15:23, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
HTTP 504 gateway timeouts
Hi. I've been getting "HTTP 504 gateway timeout" errors more and more frequently from various scripts that rely on wikitools. Traceback below. I haven't looked at this issue too closely, but you do think catching these and retrying the edit or something might be a good idea here? Do you ever hit this error? --MZMcBride (talk) 06:48, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Your "cron" job on willow
PYTHONPATH=$HOME/scripts python $HOME/scripts/commons/nara-cat.py > /dev/null
produced the following output:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/mzmcbride/scripts/commons/nara-cat.py", line 89, in <module>
report.edit(report_text, summary=settings.editsumm, bot=1)
File "/home/mzmcbride/scripts/wikitools/page.py", line 539, in edit
result = req.query()
File "/home/mzmcbride/scripts/wikitools/api.py", line 144, in query
rawdata = self.__getRaw()
File "/home/mzmcbride/scripts/wikitools/api.py", line 220, in __getRaw
data = self.opener.open(self.request)
File "/opt/ts/python/2.7/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 398, in open
response = meth(req, response)
File "/opt/ts/python/2.7/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 511, in http_response
'http', request, response, code, msg, hdrs)
File "/opt/ts/python/2.7/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 436, in error
return self._call_chain(*args)
File "/opt/ts/python/2.7/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 370, in _call_chain
result = func(*args)
File "/opt/ts/python/2.7/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 519, in http_error_default
raise HTTPError(req.get_full_url(), code, msg, hdrs, fp)
urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 504: Gateway Time-out
PP for Wiki Loves Monuments 2011
Hi, am I too late to get WP:WLM included in the July run? I put in a request on the toolserver, but I don't see that this project is listed yet in the list option. Also, I still have pages to tag and was wondering when the new tags would take effect, from the FAQ it looks like there is a month lag, and I would like to track the whole list in September. Thanks in advance, Jane (talk) 11:03, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Popular pages for WikiProject Appalachia
On 17 July, I submitted a request for "popular pages" for WikiProject Appalachia. I was hoping to see the project on the list of projects to be logged in August, but alas, it's not there. Did I do something wrong, or am I being too impatient? --Orlady (talk) 22:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Bad tagging from Z-bot
This sort of edit, from "hey, this is a living person and a section to an article is unsourced" to "this is an entirely unreferenced BLP" is IMHO a bug. If you would, please correct Z-bot on this point, the "section" parameters matters, and (perhaps unfortunately) the latter tag doesn't support it. Thanks. --joe deckertalk to me 03:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Also coming here for the same problem, see here. It changed an unreferenced list tag to an unreferenced BLP tag, which...confuses me greatly, as a list is not a BLP, though the list was in a BLP article. Either way, it's a bug that needs to be fixed, as the BLP was clearly referenced. SilverserenC 23:25, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- Should be fixed now. Mr.Z-man 00:04, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! --99.13.228.79 (talk) 16:10, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Popular pages detail
I note that the signup process asks for the project's B-Class articles category. For the project in question, it has almost no B-class articles, because it uses the 6-point B-Class checklist, and anything tagged as B-Class is actually categorized as C-Class until someone manually confirms that it has passed each of the criteria. So, if the tool ignores everything below B Class, then it should start with C Class in this case. But I don't know if that is actually the case (I'm not sure why it asked for the B-Class articles category). If that is the case, I have the request key and can just go modify the request myself. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 16:36, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Children's Museum backstage pass
The Children's Museum Backstage Pass! - You are invited! | |
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The Children's Museum of Indianapolis is hosting its second Backstage Pass and its first Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, August 20. The museum is opening its doors to Wikipedians interested in learning about the museum's collection, taking them on a tour of the vast collection before spending the afternoon working with curators to improve articles relating to the Caplan Collection of folk toys and Creative Playthings objects. Please sign up on the event page if you can attend, and if you'd like to participate virtually you can sign up on the Edit-a-Thon page. ---LoriLee (talk) 15:10, 17 August 2011 (UTC) |
Popular pages reports
Hi, I was wondering whether PPR could be requested for WiR/OS and Category:Open access even before a B-Class assessment category has been established. Thanks! -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 22:09, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Gani update?
Hi - me again. I was just wondering what the status of the Gani tool is? The fact that it returns articles like FK3 – Communicating Innovation which were deleted over a year ago makes me think you've not updated it since then? I hope it's just a "not got round to it" problem rather than a "someone's broken an API" type problem - rather scarily I've now taken nearly 10,000 photos based largely on the Gani results. I'm not doing well at getting them uploaded so far, and there's a lot of duplicates etc but even if only 10% of them make it into Wikipedia that would be fairly significant. Le Deluge (talk) 00:39, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- It's just a "not gotten around to it." I'll do it now. Mr.Z-man 20:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Great, cheers. Le Deluge (talk) 21:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Should be done now. Mr.Z-man 23:25, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Great, cheers. Le Deluge (talk) 21:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
i'm not a vandal
Copied from Wikipedia talk:Administrator intervention against vandalism
I tripped the filter on the page List of drugs: D! I was adding some drug names and I did not do anything wrong, so please withdraw the request. --Tyranitar Man (talk) 13:31, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
refToolbar
Is there a way that the refToolbar can be set to use other date formats? It's getting quite ponderous for me to have to re-format the date every time I insert a reference. I know that there are scripts that can make the change after the fact, but it would be easier to just insert it properly the first time. Thanks. — KV5 • Talk • 15:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. See the "Automatic date insertion" section of Wikipedia:refToolbar 2.0. Mr.Z-man 15:54, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Bug report
Hi, I am a DBA programmer and I have noticed that the database of Wikipedia Popular pages lists are not being correctly updated in September 2011. Specifically the Total view to every article column is frozen, what makes the average (of views) per day dropping in diary. For instance inspect the Pageview statistics for WikiProject Paranormal – September 2011 (and some others statistic pages) comparing the figures from one day to the next one, and so on. Apparently this total view per article is missing the diary increments promoted by views. I have concluded that is a bug because days before that didn’t happen, on contrary, worked it as expected in a diary base. I hope this helps. TriCycloped (talk) 13:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
refToolbar autofill
I prefer to use refToolbar 1.0 but I cannot get the fields to autofill when using an ISBN. Mouse hovering over the enter icon shows that it uses Deierri's tool. I have used the option in preferences as well as the scripts at Wikipedia:RefToolbar 1.0. Any ideas? Cheers. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 01:43, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
AFD Close script
Mr.Z-man - I've noticed over the last week that some of the AFDs I close as keep don't remove the AFD notice from the top of the article. It's not on all keeps, but it happens on a few. I thought it was just me at first, but now I know it happened to another admin too. Any idea what might be causing this bug?--v/r - TP 00:32, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)I've compared the two you mentioned with an AFD you closed as "keep" where the script worked. Here's what I found...
- On the 2 that failed, the last line looked like this...
- <!-- End of AfD message, feel free to edit beyond this point -->{{rescue|date=September 2011}}
- On the one where it worked, it looked like this...
- <!-- End of AfD message, feel free to edit beyond this point -->
- The rescue tag was on a separate line. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:06, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
- I've also had it fail when there was another tag above the AFD tag or when the article was moved. That's why it's a good idea to go to the article right after you close the AFD. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:09, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
- I've noticed the issue where the AFD tag isnt on top. I also noticed the rescue tag but it didnt occur to me at the time that it'd be related, but it seems so obvious now.--v/r - TP 01:14, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
- I've also had it fail when there was another tag above the AFD tag or when the article was moved. That's why it's a good idea to go to the article right after you close the AFD. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:09, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
- This issue may or may not be related, but the AfC helper script, which is based on this script now occasionally (about every 1 in 5 accepted submissions) overwrites the most recently created article, rather than the least recent. Alpha Quadrant talk 03:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Bad Image List
From his script about the Bad Image List (emphasis mine): "Any image on the bad image list, will be hidden except on its image page and any specified article exceptions by the MediaWiki software. This script will hide the images on every page, including the image page." Which one is right? Interchangeable|talk to me 19:16, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
WikiProject popular pages for WikiProject RISC OS
Hi. Per this discussion, I see that WP:RISCOS is included. However, Wikipedia:WikiProject RISC OS/Popular pages is still a redlink. Is there anything else we need to do please (other than being patient)? Thanks very much. --Trevj (talk) 14:29, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for including this. --Trevj (talk) 08:34, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
MediaWiki 1.18 issue with closeafd
Hi there. Thought you might want to know that the 1.18 upgrade has slightly tweaked closeAFD.js - the text in both the "close" and "relist" boxes is now displaying as small text which is kinda hard on the eyes. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:03, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Bug report
Performance and demand seem to be minor problems. If you compare the historic statistic of the five latest months you will see that the current month (October) shows articles completely out of that historic series. Something is very wrong. As I did before, analyzing right now the WikiProject Paranormal's pageview, you see an article of minor relevance now counting more than 14,000 views per day. This is practically impossible to that article. Though most seem OK, other articles as: "John Murray Spear", "Clinton Road (New Jersey)", etc, exhibit an exaggerated, and therefore absurd counting (statistically speaking). So, the issue is a little hairier. Good lucky. TriCycloped (talk) 02:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- This is an issue with the source data from Wikimedia, which is out of my control. It affects Henrik's stats too. Mr.Z-man 03:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- I see. Yet, you (and may be Henrik can help too) likely it is the better person to contact Wikimedia and require a revision of those figures to them. Meanwhile can be a good idea to place (to the public) a warning in such pageviews that the numbers are under revision by technical reasons. We can argue that all this it is important once involves Wikipedia's credibility. By the way, in spite of these issues, these statistics are really an awesome idea and I would like to ask you if you can include the until now absent Wikipedia:WikiProject Mythology in these pageviews? TriCycloped (talk) 12:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
More:
Analyses done specifically for October, day 22 (2011), and researched for the first hundreds of articles better ranked. Note that we are talking about very popular articles, therefore with expressive demand. What we have found in this day:
- - Very, very rarely some article had its stats increased (day 22), such as the article Marian apparition. And, of course, the stats of Vril, which has a gigantic/impossible counting, confined to one only day, and 0 view in all other days of October.
- - Most articles had stats decreased below their averages, something around 30, 40, or 50%, which is statistically absurd.
- - Many articles had the counting erased (0 view) in some earlier day of October, such as "Ouija", "The Amityville Horror", "Merlin", "Tunguska event", "Nibiru collision", "Loch Ness Monster", "Jersey Devil", "Nazca Lines", "Unidentified flying object", etc. Again, absurd!
Conclusions:
- - Articles are losing their number of views. They are being artificially decreased by some incorrect procedure (Bug… etc).
- - Many of these figures are being transferred most to the article Vril, and some to others.
- - These issues are not being fixed in the end of each month, with the all computation of final figures. The monthly stats are being closed with incorrect amounts (this comes from analysis for September). (PS: Henrik is conscious of these issues) TriCycloped (talk) 15:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
wikitools bug
wikitools.Wiki('http://www.wikisource.org/w/api.php')
^ Fails miserably. I think it's wikitools' fault, but it might be Wikimedia. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:10, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
- Try it without the "www." Mr.Z-man 02:22, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well, durr. :P But it's getting a proper 301. It should just follow the redirect, surely. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:02, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- Also, love you, miss you. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- I think the problem is that the postdata isn't getting passed through the redirect or something (since wikitools uses POST for everything). From I what I've read, it's not supposed to, so it's working as intended I guess. Mr.Z-man 00:43, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Popular pages?
Just wondering what happened to the update for October data. Brad (talk) 23:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Seconded. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 20:08, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
- And me. --Penbat (talk) 21:32, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! Brad (talk) 09:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Daniel Boone FA class
In WikiProject Appalachia/Most Viewed Pages the article Daniel Boone should show up as FA class, not unclassified. Dwalls (talk) 04:37, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi, sorry would you please look at the conversation at User talk:Icairns#Bhr7gj? As I state in the conversation, though I am aware what the bot states was said in 'details' I can't stand up anything in the history that correlates? TerriersFan (talk) 23:34, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
November stats
Hi Mr.Z-man, happy to see you continue engaged in the stats. In fact that is a great and very useful project, really thanks for your efforts. However I have no idea if you noticed how much the stats of Henrik are different from "popular pages" for this last November. I only checked a few articles, so for those here are a couple of distinctions (on November):
- 1- The popular pages stats are numerically lesser than those basic ones from Henrik.
- 2- Article’s redirections weren’t summed up for each article, they are largely missing them in the adding up (this for those few articles that I checked);
May be your counting program halted in the middle of the process, or the stats are not finished yet? Anyway here is an idea that you perhaps already considered (or not):
In a strict statistic treatment of data (scientifically speaking), points of a curve (therefore certain days of the monthly counting) should be completely discarded when they are very distant from the average value. What this means? Means that, for example, if an article has an average of 1,000 visits per day but certain day it had 3,000 and other day it had 0 (zero) visits on November, then these two anomalous days should be discarded from the stats (even if this anomaly really occurred). Therefore the counting program will consider to November only 28 days (instead the regular 30 days) for obtaining the average when it divides the whole amount of visits to that month. Realize that following this scientific approach, in the end the stats will be avoiding possible errors originated from the data source, and ultimately much more accurate and reliable. This treatment only doesn’t catch the systematic errors, but even those can be detected and also avoided with an appropriated analysis and respective procedure (if you have time to pursuit that). TriCycloped (talk) 14:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
- When you refer to the ones from November, are you referring to the ones posted in November (which is the data from October) or the data from November (which is the toolserver page, but not posted yet)? The data from November isn't complete yet. There's still about 5 days of data to process yet. The problem with discarding anomalous data is that there are several legitimate reasons why an article may suddenly get a lot more or a lot fewer views in a day. If it's listed on the main page or referred to from some outside source like a news article, or the topic of the article itself is in the news, that usually results in a spike of real hits. If an article was moved part way through the month and incoming links were changed to the new title, that would cause From the scientific point of view, you would only want to discard anomalous data if you can't think of any possible reason why it may not actually be wrong. And unfortunately, doing this wouldn't really be practical, as it would require me to actually store the daily values for each article, which would make the database tables about 30 times larger. Mr.Z-man 14:38, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
- I was talking on November stats (articles visited on November), and Ok then, it is not finished (so let’s wait its completion to check if still that couple of differences remains). And yes, I know that (media events, etc). Almost all you commented it is a fact. However I am not suggesting to you to discard points in a random way. What I meant was to discard points running away from the value determined by the daily average. See, all those events that you mentioned are legitimate but they are included in the average value if they persist during certain time (but sure you will have to settle a maximum deviate: …, 50, 100, 200%,… as for that you intend to set as a criterion). I am not saying that such method is perfect, but seems better than the current one. In the end, you can be sure, this implemented suggestion will bring a fair stats (it is not me stating this but science).
- Sorry, I didn’t understand your last observation about storing daily values. Your program already doesn’t store daily data in a matrix? Strange. See, the above suggestion only can be applied after the respective month to have finished (that can’t be done during the current month, but only to earlier months). What is missing in your program, it is just that calculation, a critical procedure analyzing and selecting elected data. Ultimately if bother you discard data that can be legitimate (and I agree with this feeling), should also bother incorrect data (worse than that, I think). Whatever be your decision, know that what you did until here it was appreciated. TriCycloped (talk) 16:04, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Bot report/filter action on User:Dupheerich
Can you look at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism concerning User:Dupheerich? I am not understanding what the user did wrong nor why he wasn't informed of it. Rmhermen (talk) 18:56, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Opinion on inclusion of keys?
Hi, I noticed you participated in discussions on Talk:Texas Instruments signing key controversy in the past and now that there are the keys are restored wanted to get your opinion there of which keys if any should be included in the article. Please respond at Talk:Texas_Instruments_signing_key_controversy#The_keys. Thanks! Dcoetzee 07:00, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
CloseAFD
Hi, sorry if you get this a lot, but I didn't see anything on the talk page. Is it possible for this script to check to see if the AFD has already been closed before closing it? Sometimes when AFDs are up for closure I open up a bunch of tabs and close them one at a time, but I think other people have the same (maybe bad) habit and we wind up closing on top of each other's closes. Thanks for the great script either way. causa sui (talk) 00:38, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
RefToolbarLocal.js
Hi Mr.Z-man, I am knocking you as i found your name in the history page of the MediaWiki:RefToolbarLocal.js. This tool was added in Bengali Wikipedia but you update the code and the mediawiki updated itself and as a result the tool is not working now.
I work for Bengali Wikipedia. I tried to replace the code but i am not an administrator there. And i have a wish to do some changes in it. So i need some assistance from you. Like, will it work properly if i add this script to my "vector.js" page or upload some other server for testing? If it is possible then it will be easier for me to do some experiment on it.
thanks --Nasir Khan Saikat (talk) 05:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
November popular pages data
I'm eagerly looking forward to this.--Penbat (talk) 11:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Same here. Hopefully it will be done soon. Brad (talk) 22:42, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks!! Brad (talk) 00:17, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Sandbox edit report
here. Sorry, is this not what the Sandbox is for? TerriersFan (talk) 18:06, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
CloseAFD
Hi there. I just installed your closeAFD script to help with the few non-admin closures I make there but cannot seem to get it working. I'm not that good with coding, so wondered if you'd be able to help. I installed the code here but see no change when I view AfD discussions - I've tried in Google Chrome and Firefox. Could you help? Thanks. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 17:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I've fixed it. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:29, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Translation project
Hey Mr.Z I am working on a translation project as described here. I am wondering if there is an easy way to track the number of page views all the pages within the project get each month? Would it be easiest to tag them all as a medical task force may be?--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:26, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I see it has been done for dermatology will take care of the first part.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:32, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Template:Editnotices/Page/Texas Instruments signing key controversy has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ronhjones (Talk) 20:56, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
refToolbar 2.0
Hi, I want to add this tool in Persian Wikipedia, so I followed the steps you wrote here. All the mediawiki pages which have been considered here (such as MediaWiki:Gadget-refToolbarBase.js or MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js, etc.) was copied (and translated) in our wiki, and I changed the 'en' to 'fa' here and then added the gadget to gadgets list, but unfortunately no changes was happened. When I click in the Cite Templates combo box, it doesn't show any dialogue boxes and just add a {{cite}} template to the edit box. May you please help me with this problem and tell me what should I do to fix that? Thanks ●Mehran Debate● 20:02, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
- Kaldari solved the problem. Thanks ●Mehran Debate● 09:31, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Request for Interview Regarding Wikipedia Bots
Greetings-
My name is Randall Livingstone, and I am a graduate student at the University of Oregon, currently collecting data for my dissertation on Wikipedia editors who create and use bots and assisted editing tools, as well as editors involved in the initial and/or ongoing creation of bot policies on Wikipedia. As a member of BAG and an active member of the bot community, I would very much like to interview you for the project at a time and in a method that is most convenient for you (Gchat, another IM client, Skype, email, telephone, etc.). I am completely flexible and can work with your schedule. The interview will take approximately 30-45 minutes.
My dissertation project has been approved both by the Institutional Review Board (IRB) at the University of Oregon, and by the Research Committee at the Wikimedia Foundation. You can find more information on the project on my meta page.
Please let me know if you have any questions, and I look forward to hearing from you to set up a time to chat. Thank you very much.
Randall Livingstone, School of Journalism & Communication, University of Oregon
UOJComm (talk) 00:19, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD script incorrectly placing {{Old AfD multi}} tags on article talk pages
I've noticed that when closing AfD's, the User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD tool places the ({{Old AfD multi}}) tag:
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at the top of article talk pages. Please note that per administrator instructions for closing AfD's, located here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Administrator instructions, the instructions are to place the tag below Wikiproject headers:
"Click "edit" on the article page and copy the entire {{Old AfD multi}} template that is inside the AfD tag, then paste that entire template onto the article's talk page (normally below the WikiProject tags, if applicable), and then save using an edit summary such as "Adding {{Old AfD multi}}"."
Is there any way to modify the script to place the tags below the WikiProject headers in article talk pages? Please respond at your convenience, and thank you. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
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When you return
Wondering if you could add "medicine/translation task force" to the popular page stats per here [5]. Thanks --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:48, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
December stats and precedent ones
Disregarding any statistic treatment of the topic and therefore considering only the available raw Wikimedia’s data, the stats of November, I mean those published in November which I assume concern the accessed articles on November, as well as in particular the stats of December (till this point) unfortunately remained very far apart of accuracy. I state this based on an extrapolation made for a sample of few articles that I have analyzed. The main problem seems to be new redirect pages, which were ignored in the stats (Nov and Dec). But not only this; even disregarding "redirects", and aiming to refine the original raw stats, I also subtracted the article's "special pages" and again unfortunately "my stats" remained pretty much well above those published by you. I definitely can't affirm that all the published data are inaccurate, but I can state that several of those take an error around 50%. Frankly, as much your work on this is unique and accomplishes hard work, I think these stats as they are, are not reliable and shouldn’t be published unless you highlighted in it some warning to the interested ones for not misleading them. TriCycloped (talk) 13:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
- Could you be a little more specific? I can't imagine that brand new redirects really make that big of a difference. Additionally, the stats for December (which were just published a few days ago) should have included every redirect that existed as of a few days ago, so the only ones that would have been missed were ones that were recently deleted. I don't really know what you mean by "the article's "'special pages'", nor how you could subtract them, since as far as I know, there is only one source of raw data and it does not distinguish between anything other than page names. Mr.Z-man 14:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
- Right, first of all I didn’t mean that you removed the accesses made by "special pages", don’t worry with that. That was a commentary and may be a new idea to you. Now, all "my stats" are based in a laboratorial degree. Really would be difficult to filtrate "special pages", but this is possible through mathematical estimation obtained per researches done directly with some users and then making an extrapolation, which was what I did. Made as I did, that was not scientifically valid (though the method be correct if applied in proper scale), but gave me a good idea of the figures involved here.
- So, independently of this above mentioned, as I said, the published December stats clearly showed a discrepancy about 50% lesser than those reckoned by me, which were applied to 3 chosen articles. Besides, I can tell you that for this study were avoided the usual top 30 articles, choosing 3 randomly amidst the usual first 500 of a category. The mentioned new redirects were a possible clue to you of what could be wrong, but not a certainty. What more could be? This answer ultimately it is up to you to find out it. What is going on broken? More one thing: I was very meticulous in this analysis, I absolutely trust in it, or else wouldn’t alert you. TriCycloped (talk) 21:35, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
- Unless you surveyed thousands of people, I don't really see how you can extrapolate a small survey over 3 articles to millions of people over millions of articles. At least not without a huge margin of error. As I said before, I can't figure out the problem. I'm relying on Wikimedia for the raw data. They are the only source. As far as I know, all other pageview statistics use the same raw data. There are so many possible sources of legitimate variations that I can't filter out real inaccuracies automatically without huge amounts of false positives. It would need to be fixed at the source. And since there is only one data source, it's impossible to know whether an anomaly is from some real thing or whether its from some error. Mr.Z-man 22:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC)