User talk:Mr.Z-man/Archive 14
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AFD script.
Hey, can' get the AFD script to work. I have copied the script to my monobook and tried with IE and Chrome. Thanks in advance. PaoloNapolitano 13:33, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
MSU Interview
Dear Mr. Z-man,
My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
- Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
- Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
- All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
- All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
- The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your nameHERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.206.39 (talk) 03:24, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
January stats?
Just wondering; thanks. Brad (talk) 12:10, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Im sure there's a good reason but having to wait several weeks for the previous months stats undermines their usefulness.--Penbat (talk) 12:13, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
- It appears that he is unfortunately not very active :-( --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:28, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Is is possible to restore Harrison Ruffin Tyler
Harrison Ruffin Tyler
The article on this person was deleted in 2008 for not having notoriety for being a living grandson of president tyler. You stated in the talk section that if recent articles were found on this subject that he should be retained. Apparently the world figured this out two weeks ago and there were articles written in the Huffington post, Politoco, New York Times, etc and a CBS Presidents day interview. Is it possible to revive the old article? --weum2004 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:19, 21 February 2012 (UTC). Hi. :) That's not exactly what I said; i said at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harrison Ruffin Tyler that the article should be deleted "unless somebody produces evidence that this individual has substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources." It's not really about the sources being recent; it's about them being substantial. If you think that the sources are substantial enough to verify that he meets notability guidelines, then an article on him may well be appropriate. In terms of restoring the old article, it is possible, but you would need to take the request to Wikipedia:Deletion review, which lists among its uses "if significant new information has come to light since a deletion and the information in the deleted article would be useful to write a new article." You might consider speaking to the administrator who deleted the article first. He is not often active these days, but may still be able to return to assist you. You can find him at User talk:Mr.Z-man. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 03:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC
Can you help get this article reinstated? if you type in "President Tyler Grandson" at least 40 substantial article pop up. The notoriety for being a presidents grandson when the president was born in 1790 is significant enough to garner many articles. 96.228.19.248 (talk) 01:17, 23 February 2012 (UTC)Weum2004
Feb Stats?
Let me know if you need someone to give you a hand with this. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:53, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant to start this earlier, but there have been some maintenance issues with the toolserver databases. It's running now. Mr.Z-man 23:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Current Toolserver issues are delaying this more :( Mr.Z-man 04:49, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Request for adding Project for Popular pages bot
Hi, Request your assistance for adding WIkiProject Karnataka to the bot that publishes Popular pages. Tried the toolserver pages but it doesn't seem to be accepting requests. Can you please help. It would be a great help. Thanks Arunram (talk)
- Unfortunately Mr Z is not really active any more. I have been trying to find someone who could take over updating / managing this tool with no success. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:44, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- The new version should hopefully be ready within a month or two and accepting new projects. I'm working on a couple projects at the same time and kind of got distracted. Mr.Z-man 23:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Great glad to see you are here :-) Hope you get things working soon. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:50, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- The new version should hopefully be ready within a month or two and accepting new projects. I'm working on a couple projects at the same time and kind of got distracted. Mr.Z-man 23:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Tool peculiarity
Something has happened -- possibly a change in MediaWiki itself, possibly not -- affecting all new pages created after approximately 5 pm on March 19 2012, in terms of how they interact with the PatrolLinks tool you made me.
When I click such links in the unpatrolled queue, the result is "Error: Page deleted", even though the page has not been deleted, nor has it expired from the queue (the only instances when that message should appear). In fact, when I open such an unpatrolled page and click the link at the bottom, patrol is registered as normal; patrol also works normally when I use the "patrol all pages created by user (X)".
And when I reload the queue, the links which had just been marked as "error - deleted" refresh themselves instead of being removed from the list.
Any suggestions? DS (talk) 14:25, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- If it's March 19-related, it's probably due to the Toolserver's database replication issues. The database is frozen in time currently at March 19, 2012 (there's no newer data available past that date). The replication issue should hopefully be fixed by the end of this week (cf. this mailing list post). --MZMcBride (talk) 17:43, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
User:Mr.Z-man/usernotice is out-of-date. I would've fixed it myself, but SOMEBODY fully protected the page from editing. ;-P Miss you, &c., but quite glad to see you're still editing a little. --MZMcBride (talk) 17:46, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- I tweaked it down a touch as it seems an unlikely target. MBisanz talk 17:49, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't put a year, so if I procrastinate long enough, it'll eventually be correct again. Mr.Z-man 17:55, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Hmmm, your talk page archive box is out-of-date and you've got three lingering sections on your talk page due to missing or malformed timestamps. Time for some spring cleaning, sir!
Also, Ryan is trying to get in contact with you about the daily article e-mail something or other. It needs some code tweaks or something. If you don't have the time or patience to deal with that, I may be able to help. Just let me/him know. Still miss you. --MZMcBride (talk) 17:50, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- Daily article thing should be fixed now. Mr.Z-man 18:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted
I invite you to the yearly Berlin hackathon. It's 1-3 June and registration is now open. If you need financial assistance or help with visa or hotel, just mention it in the registration form.
This is the premier event for the MediaWiki and Wikimedia technical community. We'll be hacking, designing, and socialising, primarily talking about ResourceLoader and Gadgets (extending functionality with JavaScript), the switch to Lua for templates, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Labs.
Our goals for the event are to bring 100-150 people together, including lots of people who have not attended such events before. User scripts, gadgets, API use, Toolserver, Wikimedia Labs, mobile, structured data, templates -- if you are into any of these things, we want you to come!
I also thought you might want to know about other upcoming events where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, how to best use the web API for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing.
Check out the the developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC and our other events.
Best wishes! - Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation's Volunteer Development Coordinator. Please reply on my talk page, here or at mediawiki.org. Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator 14:26, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
closeAFD.js
I've been using your AfD-closing script for awhile, and I think it's a great tool. Thanks for taking the time to create it. I have one suggestion for improvement: Every once in awhile, someone nominates an article for deletion, and the article is moved to a different location during the course of the AfD. In these cases, when the consensus is to delete the article, it's quite easy to simply hit the delete button and move on, not realizing that the script only deleted the redirect and left the main article intact. My suggestion is that the script should check:
- If the user closes the AfD by hitting the "delete" button (or the "delete article" button under "Other"), AND...
- If the target article to be deleted is a redirect, THEN...
- Prompt the user that the target article is a redirect, and ask them if they want to also delete the redirect target.
Thanks! —SW— babble 16:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Dispute resolution survey
![]() Dispute Resolution – Survey Invite Hello Mr.Z-man. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Wikipedia, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released. Please click HERE to participate. You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated research page. Steven Zhang DR goes to Wikimania! 12:10, 5 April 2012 (UTC) |
ConfirmAccount extension
Hey :). You're being contacted because you are involved in the ACC process, or participated in the original discussion in '08 about the ConfirmAccount extension. This is a note to let you know that we are seeking opinions on switching this extension on, effectively making the ACC process via the Toolserver redundant. You can read all the details here; I would be very grateful if people would indicate how they feel about the idea :). Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi! Would you please restart task 6 of your bot so that long-term abusers will get reported to WP:AIV/TB2 again? Thanks! Reaper Eternal (talk) 01:54, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Great to see the Feb states
Can I make another plea for adding Wikipedia Project Medicine/Translation task force as found here Wikipedia:MED/Translation_project? I am currently writing a paper for publication on the project and going to be giving lectures on it soon. Will save me having to hand calculate it.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:44, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- The stats for march appear to be off by a lot [1] do you think this will get any better? Or was data lost along the way? --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- The March stats are currently in progress, only about 20% done. It'll be a few more days. I also added the translation task force - [2] Mr.Z-man 15:50, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Wonderful many thanks. Will it be possible to generate these stats for other languages including simple English?--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:52, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- The March stats are currently in progress, only about 20% done. It'll be a few more days. I also added the translation task force - [2] Mr.Z-man 15:50, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- The stats for march appear to be off by a lot [1] do you think this will get any better? Or was data lost along the way? --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Technical Barnstar |
Hello Mr.Z-man! For years I've been wishing someone would create a gadget to auto-populate the fields in the reference tool. Just this weekend, I finally realized that such a gadget actually already exists, and is now the default. Thank you so much for making it :-) Sue Gardner (talk) 05:05, 17 April 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks! I'm just glad that since it's now the default, I'm not the only one working on it anymore. Mr.Z-man 15:51, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Abuse Filter on the Article Feedback Tool
Hey there :). You're being contacted because you're an edit filter manager, At the moment, we're developing Version 5 of the Article Feedback Tool, which you may or may not have heard about. If you haven't; for the first time, this will involve a free-text box where readers can submit comments :). Obviously, there's going to be junk, and we want to minimise that junk. To do so, we're working the Abuse Filter into the tool.
For this to work, we need people to write and maintain filters. I'd be very grateful if you could take a look at the discussion here and the attached docs, and comment and contribute! Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Original Barnstar |
Many thanks for getting the popular page stats up for the Medical Translation Task Force. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:32, 23 April 2012 (UTC) |
When dealing with this false positive, I saw that it was caused by this change to the filter. This is undoubtedly a false positive - the filter is supposed to stop "ASCII art", and this clearly isn't it. Can you please see about fixing the filter here? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:29, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
closeAFD.js compatibility with Vector skin
How compatible is it? The page mentions Monobook and Modern only. Salvidrim! 03:08, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Daily article script
User:MZMcBride/dal.py; textwrap.wrap() is awfully convenient! ;-) --MZMcBride (talk) 03:59, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Popular pages
Is there a tool that calculates lists of popular pages in other languages? Translation has begun into our first batch of 10 as per here [3]. As we get a fair number of article done we are going to want to know the sum of the page views in each language. If it is not available now how much work would it require? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:44, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Popular pages for historic sites
Hi Mr.Z-man, at the moment we have Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Monuments 2011/Popular pages. This is based on {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2011}}. I'm now merging this into Wikipedia:WikiProject Historic sites. Could you please stop the stats for WLM2011 and start it for the historic sites project? Thank you, Multichill (talk) 10:19, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Pageview stats
Mr. Z-man, I noticed that your "Popular pages lists" tool uses up-to-date pageview data. I was wondering how you derive this data. I'm aware of the hourly stats at dumps.wikimedia.org, but they are so cumbersome. Do you have a way of boiling those files down to monthly pageview stats or something? Or do you just blast stats.grok.se with queries? I'm looking for a relatively fast way to look up weekly or monthly page view stats on the scale of potentially hundreds of thousands of pages. Any ideas? ‑Scottywong| babble _ 16:57, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- They made monthly files for a while [4], but it's been broken since last August. I just use the hourly files and aggregate the data in a MySQL table. Mr.Z-man 17:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- Is that table public? If so, I'd love to make use of it... Is it u_alexz_p or something? ‑Scottywong| chat _ 20:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not at the moment, and right now it only includes the articles that are included in the projects signed up (roughly 85% of all articles). It's also not being kept up to date right now. I still haven't added the data for April. The changes that I'm planning on making will include all articles and I'll make the tables public then. Hopefully I'll have time and motivation to work on it soon. But you can see the program I use to parse the data files here. Mr.Z-man 20:54, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. If you remember, be sure to let me know if you get around to making a public pageview table for all articles. One last question: are the hourly pageview files kept somewhere on toolserver, or do you just download them from dumps.wikimedia.org on a regular basis and then delete them once you've updated the table? ‑Scottywong| prattle _ 14:03, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
- They were being kept in the /mnt/user-store/stats/ directory, but it hasn't been updated in a while, so I've just been downloading them as needed and deleting them. Mr.Z-man 14:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. If you remember, be sure to let me know if you get around to making a public pageview table for all articles. One last question: are the hourly pageview files kept somewhere on toolserver, or do you just download them from dumps.wikimedia.org on a regular basis and then delete them once you've updated the table? ‑Scottywong| prattle _ 14:03, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not at the moment, and right now it only includes the articles that are included in the projects signed up (roughly 85% of all articles). It's also not being kept up to date right now. I still haven't added the data for April. The changes that I'm planning on making will include all articles and I'll make the tables public then. Hopefully I'll have time and motivation to work on it soon. But you can see the program I use to parse the data files here. Mr.Z-man 20:54, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- Is that table public? If so, I'd love to make use of it... Is it u_alexz_p or something? ‑Scottywong| chat _ 20:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Are you planning on updating the popular pages listing for April? It's more than halfway thru May you know.... :) Thanks, Compdude123 04:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Popularity statistics
I noticed that your bot is doing some work with popularity statistics.
I have always been interested in popularity of the articles I write. Right now I check it manually, like on this page. Would it be possible to create a list or table with popularity statistics (number of views) of all articles I created? If yes, how?
Best regards.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:46, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Bug in closeAFD.js?
I am an regular user of your invaluable User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js script, but for the first time I have encountered a problem. I closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/My Little Pony: Friendship Gardens as delete with the Delete redirects box checked: the script also deleted User:Ciaran Sinclair/A Canterlot Wedding with edit summary "Deleting redirects to "My Little Pony: Friendship Gardens" after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/My Little Pony: Friendship Gardens". That page, since restored, was a redirect, but a redirect to a different page, A Canterlot Wedding.
Below the redirect, the page contains contained (it has since been edited to remove it) a lot of text, but no reference to "My Little Pony: Friendship Gardens", however it transcludes the template {{My Little Pony}} which at that time did have a link to the Friendship Gardens page. The only explanation I can think of is that the presence of #REDIRECT at the top of the page and of the link to the deleted page in the template made the script think it was a redirect to the deleted page. If so, it's an abstruse bug, but I think it's a bug. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:48, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Technical Barnstar |
Thank you very much for creating a script that helps me out in AFD. Max Viwe | Viwe The Max 19:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC) |
Bug in closeAFD.js for 2nd momination
Hi, regarding User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js - there appears to be a bug when closing an AfD for a second nomination. See User talk:The Bushranger/Archive13#AfD closure (2nd nom). --Redrose64 (talk) 20:16, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
ocassional User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js bug
I've noticed recently that User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js is occasionally not removing the AfD tag from an article after the close. For example Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leah Kauffman and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Savan Kotecha closed the discussion properly, and tagged the talk page with the template, but failed to remove the in article AfD nomination tag. I'm not sure what the cause is, but it seems to be occurring on average with 1-2 closes per day. Dropping you a note in case someone wants to take a look at the issue. Monty845 16:58, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
BLPN watchlist
What is the status of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Watchlist? I notice it hasn't been updated by the bot since April. —Cupco 03:17, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Wikitools patch
Hi,
thanks for creating Wikitools. While using it for file upload, we noticed that you always created the page first (with the comment as the default page content) and then added any further page content. A patch to upload the file and page content in one go is here. -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 11:47, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Dead AfD script
Hi Mr Z-man. I've been using your excellent AFD closing script for a while now without any problems - today, however, the usual additions to the drop down menu appear to have vanished when I view an AFD discussion. I can't see any recent changes to the script that would break it, and it still appears to be installed correctly at my vector.js page. Any ideas as to what may have caused this? I'd like to get it back again; it's damned useful! Cheers, Yunshui 雲水 13:55, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Tag updates
Thanks for correcting the tags that I inserted!--Soulparadox (talk) 04:47, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
automatic archving
Hey there, your automatic archiving of this talk page seem a bit of. Maybe you should take a look at it ;) Redalert2fan (talk) 11:35, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Popular pages
Hey Mr. Z Still working on getting the popular pages tool into other languages. I may have some programmers who can help. A couple of questions for you. 1) What language is it written in 2) Is it under an open license and would you be willing to allow others to build on it. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:37, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- It's written in Python and is open source. I'm in the [slow] process of rewriting it though as it's not efficient enough to adequately handle the current load though which is why the updating has been erratic the past few months. I'm also trying to switch it to Python3, which has better support for unicode. Mr.Z-man 01:24, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Wonderful are you planning on adding support for other languages and could you use the help of another programmer? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 01:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Once I finish the rewrite maybe. The new version is a little more modular, so it shouldn't be too hard to adapt it. At the moment I think I can handle it. Mr.Z-man 01:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Okay we may have a volunteer who is interested if and when you need help. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:19, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Once I finish the rewrite maybe. The new version is a little more modular, so it shouldn't be too hard to adapt it. At the moment I think I can handle it. Mr.Z-man 01:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Wonderful are you planning on adding support for other languages and could you use the help of another programmer? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 01:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Bot
First - thanks for all you do for the project. But just wondering, why is Z-bot reporting so many users to AIV as possible spambots? This one for example, doesn't seem like it could be a spambot with only 1 edit... 7 05:09, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- The bot reports based on the edit filters using the list here. I've removed the spambot filter from the "immediate" report list as it's getting too many false positives. Mr.Z-man 01:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- I removed it from the vandalism list as the filter is never going to meet the vandalism category criteria. The filter does have quite a few fals positives, which I knew was going to happen with the filter. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:35, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Tool
Hi Mr.Z-man, I am from ptwiki and I am [ http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Willy_Weazley/Teste2.js translating] your tool to ptwiki. Well, I'll see if that are working, and soon I will move to your user account on ptwiki. I was trying to translate "User:Odie5533/SnipManager.user.js", and I saw your tool, cause I am having troubles cause it are not accepting new templates, so I looking to "Mr.Z-man/refToolbar.js" to change it. Can you help on that? We really need something like this on ptwiki. +Prince Willy 15:57, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Page QBEX back into sandbox, please
Dear Mr.Z-man. I chose you as middle of the administrators lists and was wondering whether you can put the QBEX content back in my sandbox, please. I am getting no joy from the delete(o)r. Mephistophelian asked me to wait for Splash to respond, but I've not heard from him despite asking him to put the material back. Gurnard (talk) 17:54, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
WikiProject Wales
Hi there, how would I go about getting your popular pages report also for Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales? It is a handy tool. Agathoclea (talk) 22:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
No-importance
the template {{no-importance}} has been deleted, you should use {{NA-importance}} instead (see here). Frietjes (talk) 23:54, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
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Reftoolbar
Hi, Mr.Z-man. I've been asking around about people who are interested in the Wikipedia:Reftoolbar. User:Kaldari suggested I ask you about it. The toolbar could use some touchup. I have posted several ideas regarding the toolbar at MediaWiki talk:RefToolbar.js. Do you have interest in helping maintain this project? Have you had past involvement? Reftoolbar is one of the best and most useful things on Wikipedia for editors. It'd be great if it could be brought to its full potential. Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 02:41, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Greetings
Thanks for all your help here. I was editing human body and I noticed this FYI. I didn't want to bother you at first. But I figured I should let you know. Thanks! Biosthmors (talk) 01:00, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
MrZ-bot
Hi, MrZ-bot (of #wikimedia-en-abuse-logs fame) quit IRC ~26 hours ago ("[21:33:48] <-- MrZ-bot (alexz@mediawiki/MrZ-man) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)") would you be so kind as to restart it? Many thanks, Snowolf How can I help? 22:29, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Bot quit again, would you be able to restart it? Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 22:48, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- It's back, thanks! Legoktm (talk) 05:03, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Close AFD script
Hi Mr.Z-man, firstly thanks for the close AFD script it's wonderful. A quick (and hopefully easy request) for you - would it be possible to add an option in the script to allow for comments to Template:Relist when relisting? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
OMG that's useful! Thanks for this. postdlf (talk) 05:18, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Nomination of Clyde Lucas for deletion
A discussion has begun about whether the article Clyde Lucas, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clyde Lucas (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.
How do you delete an article?
Mr.Z-man, how do you delete a page? -- Sitcomboy 5:21pm, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
Volunteer Programmer
Hey Mr. Z I am meeting with a programmer who is interested in helping with Wikipedia stuff when in San Fran mid January. He is interested in helping make your "popular pages" tool work in more languages of Wikipedia. Wondering how he can help with that? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
False positives on Z-bot
Hey, I've just been going through some of the filter logs that have been reported on AIV over the last few days or so. A few of them are not vandalism, but also don't meet the criteria for the filter either. One was a filter to stop editors a) outing people as gay and b) making any derogatory statements about gay people - on an article about buses. The edit was somebody genuinely trying to update an article about buses. It's not the majority of reports but it's sizeable enough that I thought you should know. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 15:06, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Can I get the source code for your Popular pages lists report?
Hi Mr. Z-man, I'm trying to help out Doc James and the Medicine project with some report updates we'd like. Would you be willing to give me the Python code that produces the report data behind the Popular pages lists report here? If so, Doc James will stop bugging you so much! Please let me know... Cheers. Zad68
22:21, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- OK I think I found it from the link to the source code repository on your User page, but it appears to run direct database queries, so unless I have the ability to do direct database queries, it won't be helpful, will it?
Zad68
00:52, 7 January 2013 (UTC)- You could rewrite it to use the API, DB access isn't an absolute requirement. It's just faster to do it that way on the toolserver. Mr.Z-man 03:13, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
AFD close script and Relist
I read on your page about the AFD Closing script that there should be a re-list tab, but for some reason when I use the script there is no such tab. I am using Chrome and Monobook, Any idea why the relist tab wouldn't be appearing when the close tab does? ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 03:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Reftoolbar mail sent
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Least popular Good articles
Hi Z man. I was wondering if it was possible to get a list of least popular pages that have been rated as being good. The thinking is that there might be articles in there that need reassessing, but they have slipped under the radar. AIRcorn (talk) 04:56, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- The 50 GAs with the fewest views in December:
+-----------------------------------------------------+------+ | title | hits | +-----------------------------------------------------+------+ | List_of_Delaware_county_name_etymologies | 15 | | Brazilian_monitor_Piauí | 36 | | Texas_Recreational_Road_6 | 38 | | Ohio_State_Route_372 | 41 | | K-41_(Kansas_highway) | 44 | | Texas_Recreational_Road_9 | 46 | | Tropical_Storm_Agatha_(1992) | 48 | | HD_154672_b | 48 | | St_Ceidio's_Church,_Rhodogeidio | 49 | | County_Route_574_(Erie_County,_New_York) | 49 | | M-56_(1919–1957_Michigan_highway) | 49 | | M-144_(1937–1939_Michigan_highway) | 49 | | Cyclone_Kamba | 49 | | Tropical_Storm_Lester_(2004) | 49 | | Ohio_State_Route_369 | 50 | | Tropical_Storm_Haishen_(2008) | 50 | | Lactarius_rupestris | 52 | | M-218_(Michigan_highway) | 52 | | Texas_Park_Road_30 | 53 | | M-147_(Michigan_highway) | 53 | | Simon_of_Southwell | 53 | | Tropical_Storm_Dongo | 53 | | Texas_Recreational_Road_3 | 53 | | M-87_(Michigan_highway) | 54 | | K-104_(Kansas_highway) | 54 | | L'Hermite's_expedition | 56 | | Tonga_at_the_2011_Commonwealth_Youth_Games | 56 | | Texas_Recreational_Road_4 | 57 | | Edward_Pulsford | 57 | | Typhoon_Meranti_(2004) | 57 | | Pennsylvania_Route_112 | 57 | | Church_of_Saint_Oswald,_King_and_Martyr,_Oswaldkirk | 58 | | Mycena_nidificata | 58 | | Brazilian_monitor_Santa_Catharina | 58 | | Broder_Knudtzon | 58 | | M-98_(Michigan_highway) | 58 | | M-239_(Michigan_highway) | 58 | | Hurricane_Norbert_(1984) | 58 | | Typhoon_Dot_(1989) | 58 | | Texas_Park_Road_2 | 58 | | HD_154672 | 58 | | Marasmius_funalis | 59 | | Brazilian_monitor_Rio_Grande | 59 | | Bergen_Aviation | 59 | | Hurricane_Ileana_(2006) | 59 | | Farm_to_Market_Road_742 | 59 | | Iowa_Highway_56 | 59 | | Ron_Halcombe | 61 | | Ohio_State_Route_701 | 61 | | Hurricane_Elida_(2008) | 61 | +-----------------------------------------------------+------+
- -- Mr.Z-man 23:36, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will copy it to the GA page. AIRcorn (talk) 23:39, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Updates
Hello. I was wondering about those updates that should have been completed by November. Any ideas? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 20:57, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- They're a bit behind schedule... Mr.Z-man 23:24, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Any ideas why? I'm curious if these updates are a WMF responsibility or if it is a purely volunteer effort, or somewhere inbetween. I posted at WP:WMFN about it, FYI. Is there anything people could do to help? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 05:36, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
- Completely voluntary I think. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 11:12, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
- If that's the case then thank you for your volunteerism. Is there any programming language I could learn that would help this out? I've seen one list at Wikipedia:Bots#How_to_create_a_bot, for example. Best. Biosthmors (talk) 20:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- I've been trying to do this too... I've got Python bot software working and am trying to get a clone of Z-man's bot set up. If I can make it work then I can hopefully take over these sorts of ad-hoc reporting requests for WP:MED.
Zad68
20:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC)- I should hopefully have time to work on it this weekend. The issue isn't the bot part that writes the list pages to the wiki (which will be the same in the new version), but the back-end analysis part that has to read through the hourly pageview logs, condense them into a monthly table (resolving any redirects) and adding the assessment/importance for the associated projects. The current version generates lists of every page associated with a project that has signed up and compares that to the hourly logs, but that has become too slow and resource-consuming (when I started, there were only a few tens of thousands of pages on the list, now there are several million). The new version is just going to compile the data for every page in a "content" namespace (so it doesn't need to spend the time and resources comparing it to a gigantic list) and then generate on-wiki lists for the projects that sign up. The back-end part is written in a combination of Python and C (I'm doing more tasks in C to reduce overhead). The other issue that sort of affects most bots/scripts is the ambiguity over the future of the Toolserver. Some people think that Wikimedia Labs will eventually supersede it and that once that is done, WM-DE and WMF will phase out support for the TS. Others seem to think that the planned architecture of Labs means it will never have the capabilities to replace the TS - [5]. Mr.Z-man 21:18, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hmm... I'll pay you triple your normal Wikipedia salary to point me to some documentation as to how this is set up, what the pieces are and how they talk to each other. 10% bonus if you can give a specific list of all the versions you're using for Python and dependent packages... I'm heading out for the weekend now but would love any help getting started. (The real benefit would be you'd have someone else to dump these sorts of requests on...) Cheers...
Zad68
21:24, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hmm... I'll pay you triple your normal Wikipedia salary to point me to some documentation as to how this is set up, what the pieces are and how they talk to each other. 10% bonus if you can give a specific list of all the versions you're using for Python and dependent packages... I'm heading out for the weekend now but would love any help getting started. (The real benefit would be you'd have someone else to dump these sorts of requests on...) Cheers...
- I should hopefully have time to work on it this weekend. The issue isn't the bot part that writes the list pages to the wiki (which will be the same in the new version), but the back-end analysis part that has to read through the hourly pageview logs, condense them into a monthly table (resolving any redirects) and adding the assessment/importance for the associated projects. The current version generates lists of every page associated with a project that has signed up and compares that to the hourly logs, but that has become too slow and resource-consuming (when I started, there were only a few tens of thousands of pages on the list, now there are several million). The new version is just going to compile the data for every page in a "content" namespace (so it doesn't need to spend the time and resources comparing it to a gigantic list) and then generate on-wiki lists for the projects that sign up. The back-end part is written in a combination of Python and C (I'm doing more tasks in C to reduce overhead). The other issue that sort of affects most bots/scripts is the ambiguity over the future of the Toolserver. Some people think that Wikimedia Labs will eventually supersede it and that once that is done, WM-DE and WMF will phase out support for the TS. Others seem to think that the planned architecture of Labs means it will never have the capabilities to replace the TS - [5]. Mr.Z-man 21:18, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- I've been trying to do this too... I've got Python bot software working and am trying to get a clone of Z-man's bot set up. If I can make it work then I can hopefully take over these sorts of ad-hoc reporting requests for WP:MED.
- If that's the case then thank you for your volunteerism. Is there any programming language I could learn that would help this out? I've seen one list at Wikipedia:Bots#How_to_create_a_bot, for example. Best. Biosthmors (talk) 20:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Completely voluntary I think. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 11:12, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
- Any ideas why? I'm curious if these updates are a WMF responsibility or if it is a purely volunteer effort, or somewhere inbetween. I posted at WP:WMFN about it, FYI. Is there anything people could do to help? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 05:36, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting and important stuff. Thanks for the link, and thanks for your contributions. Biosthmors (talk) 20:19, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Delsort and CloseAFD
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Hello Mr.Z man. When I use any delsort script, CloseAFD doesn't work. Why? --LlamaAl (talk) 20:28, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Nevermind. It now works. --LlamaAl (talk) 02:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Hitcount data
Hi Z-man,
I was wondering if you know if the hitcount data collected by Wikipidea is based on unique IP or raw hits? I want to know if some articles can be artificially "popular" by the same user refreshing the page or revisiting the page.
Thanks, DMB
DMB112 (talk) 15:26, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
Popularity stats
Hello there! I just noticed Mr. Z-bot has been incorrectly updating the popularity stats of wikiprojects: the data for Period: 2013-02-01 — 2013-02-28 (UTC) were overwritten by data for Period: 2012-02-01 — 2012-02-29 (UTC). Just letting you know. Best regards, —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 22:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Greetings again
I was wondering if you know when Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Popular pages might update with the January information. Thanks again. Biosthmors (talk) 19:25, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
- I noticed it previously updated. Awesome. Thanks again. Could I perhaps owe you an alcoholic beverage or something like that? Because I'd like to ask for WikiProject Medicine's popular pages to be expanded to 1500 if possible. Could that work? Thanks again. Biosthmors (talk) 21:58, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- I also would be interested to see this expanded as WikiProject Medicine is a highly-active project and this list is important to the project members. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:57, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Add a talk page link
For the Popular pages listing can you add a talk page link next to the article name? The link need only be piped as "(talk)". This will allow reader to go directly to the talk page to update WikiProject parameters. Cheers -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 08:37, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
- I'd also love to have that feature added. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:26, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- How is the updating going? Is it any clearer whether WMF/WMD/anybody else be taking this over? Many thanks. Johnbod (talk) 15:56, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Localization of RefToolbar 2.0 in Greek
Hello, I am interested in localizing the RefToolbar 2.0 in Greek for use in the Greek Wikipedia. Can you tell me what should I do? --Dead3y3 (talk) 02:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
refToolbar
Hi Mr.Z-man. Is User:Mr.Z-man/refToolbar 2.0.js something that people should still be using? I ask because recently I've had a problem with edittools that was cured by removing User:Mr.Z-man/refToolbar 2.0.js from my vector.js page, and looking into things a bit, I find that the documentation page now redirects to Wikipedia:RefToolbar/2.0. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 16:32, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- No. It's enabled by default now, you don't have to do anything to install it. The version in my userspace is probably out of date. Mr.Z-man 12:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. Thing is, I installed it long ago, and last week I suddenly had problems with the editools, which were resolved by uninstalling it. It takes quite a while to solve this kind of thing, and I wonder if a way can be found to save other users who had it installed from the same kind of hassle? --Stfg (talk) 12:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- This should take care of it. Mr.Z-man 18:58, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, so it should. Thanks very much. --Stfg (talk) 19:44, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- This should take care of it. Mr.Z-man 18:58, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. Thing is, I installed it long ago, and last week I suddenly had problems with the editools, which were resolved by uninstalling it. It takes quite a while to solve this kind of thing, and I wonder if a way can be found to save other users who had it installed from the same kind of hassle? --Stfg (talk) 12:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
closeAFD bug
Big fan of your closeAFD tool. I wanted to report that it had trouble finding the "old log" (showed up blank) when attempting to relist Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Belarus, Ottawa, if you wanted to take a look. czar · · 02:47, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Toolserver/Google Maps firewall problems
Hi there. I'm still using the missing image tool albeit mostly working my way through a backlog of offline copies. Something that's been broken for a while is you can no longer click on the kmz link to bring it up on Google Maps. The kmz file itself is OK - you can download it, ftp it up to one's own website and point Google at that, it works fine. So it's obviously something permissions-related on the toolserver that's blocking Google accessing the kmz directly - is this fixable or above your pay grade? Cheers. Le Deluge (talk) 12:12, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Should be fixed now. I think it was an http vs https issue. Some browsers didn't like loading the unsecured kml file on the https version of Google Maps. I also upgraded the jquery library it uses. The old version was 3 years old, so let me know if you see any new problems. Mr.Z-man 19:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. However ??the new Javascript?? has broken the links to the kmz and GMaps in both Firefox 20.0.1 and IE8. Although I do keep them fairly well tied down wrt scripting/popups etc I haven't changed anything since before your changes, when at least I got GMaps coming up, albeit without the overlay. Doncha love this stuff.... Le Deluge (talk) 06:01, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- Should be working now, I hope. Mr.Z-man 23:13, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes thanks, we're good now - what was the problem? One other thing which isn't urgent but is a mildly annoying bug : when it's failed to derive the starting coordinates from an article name, the "Submit" button is permanently disabled until one reloads the page. It'd be nice if the button was enabled again once one started typing in the location box. Like I say it's not a biggy, just mildly annoying when you enter an article name which turns out to be a dab page (eg Windsor) and you've changed a lot of the options that need to be redone if you reload. Le Deluge (talk) 20:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Should be working now, I hope. Mr.Z-man 23:13, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. However ??the new Javascript?? has broken the links to the kmz and GMaps in both Firefox 20.0.1 and IE8. Although I do keep them fairly well tied down wrt scripting/popups etc I haven't changed anything since before your changes, when at least I got GMaps coming up, albeit without the overlay. Doncha love this stuff.... Le Deluge (talk) 06:01, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
What's the lag for popularity ratings?
Like Wikipedia:WikiProject_Poland/Popular_pages. On 15th April I added Czeslaw Milosz to WP:POLAND scope, with ~200 views he should be on the list, but isn't (last update was on May 5 for April, and I thought he would be on the list?). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:51, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- The lists are usually generated sometime in the first half of the month. Mr.Z-man 21:43, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Well, yes but why is it the list generated in the first half of May is not listing an article added in April? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:09, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant the list of articles in each project is generated in the first half of the month (early April). Then it takes until around the end of the month (May 5) to process the data, and then the states are recorded on each project page. Mr.Z-man 12:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- Well, yes but why is it the list generated in the first half of May is not listing an article added in April? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:09, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
refToolbar
The ref toolbar is amazing. There are however issues with reliability from time to time. Some time it does not work and I go back to using diberri's tool [6]. Anything we can do to help keep it working always? Also sometimes it adds a space before the ref begins. Anyway to get rid of this extra space? Can send screen shots if you need. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:39, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
AFD Bug
When using the closeAFD script, it pops up in the upper right hand corner, when I click on "Summary" it fades away. Same thing when I skip the summary and just click on an action (i.e. Redirect) Dusti*poke* 18:00, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Anomalous entry in WP:WPMATH/PP
Please see entry #426 in Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Popular pages (version of 01:32, 22 June 2013).
—Wavelength (talk) 20:45, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. It looks like the problem is with the template. The article is 2 + 2 = 5, but the template doesn't seem to like the equals sign. Mr.Z-man 21:22, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for fixing it.—Wavelength (talk) 21:49, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Nomination of Tom Crabtree (journalist) for deletion
A nomination is taking place as to discuss whether Tom Crabtree (journalist) should be deleted or not. The discussion will be held at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Crabtree (journalist). However, do not remove the AfD message. WisconsinBoyClevelandRocks228844 (talk) 02:29, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
AFCH relicense
Hi Mr.Z-man,
WP:AFCH is a script for maintaining submissions at Articles for Creation. Timotheus Canens - the original author of that script - based his own script on basis of your AFDhelper. The AFCH team is getting better and some are trying to relicensing the script under MIT, see discussion at GitHub. Would you agree to relicense your part of the code (actually nobody knows how much of your code is still available / active)? mabdul 17:54, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Popular page tool
Supposedly Wikimedia Labs is now able to run this tool. Wondering if there are plans to move it? I hear that this will increase reliability and the ability to add WikiProjects in other languages. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 07:23, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Reported at AIV, doesn't seem to have edited.
This is the report: "98.183.199.201 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) - Tripped filter 139 (Fixed position vandalism) (details). Mr.Z-bot (talk) 01:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)"
Can someone explain this please? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 06:14, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- There are no edits because the edit filter blocked the edits from going through. Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:03, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
WP:REFTOOLS is semi'd
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Currently WP:REFTOOLS is semi'd. It looks like the protection was a carry over from when it was being developed in your userspace. From what I can see, it looks like it has never had any valdalism. Is the protection still currently needed? 64.40.54.89 (talk) 07:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- I asked at WP:RFP and got the issue taken care of. 64.40.54.112 (talk) 02:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Popular pages - please can you make an exception?
I was wondering if you could make an exception to your moritorium on adding new wikiprojects to your bot's "popular pages" runs? I have been involved in a GLAM project with the State Library of New South Wales (Wikipedia:GLAM/SLNSW), and they are doing some fantastic work. They are really interested in using metrics over the next couple of months to target articles within their institutional remit (New South Wales), so would really appreciate a localized version of Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/Popular pages. The relevant wikiproject is Wikipedia:WikiProject New South Wales, and it looks like it's set up normally so shouldn't be unusually difficult. I know your bot is struggling to keep up with demand, but if you can make this exception, it would be much appreciated. Regards. --99of9 (talk) 03:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- I have been working to find someone to help move this tool over to Wikimedia labs. It needs to be improved so new languages and new projects can be added. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- While a long term solution would of course be nice, I'm requesting this exception because the external partners are active right now and over the next couple of months, so it's a bit too urgent to wait for a perfect solution. --99of9 (talk) 04:13, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- I have been trying to patch together a solution for a couple of years now but repeatedly asking people to help. I too have external partners who want to know how much impact their funding is having (how much the content is viewed in the languages we are translating into). Maybe if we put together a coalition of editors together we can get some programmer time? This seems like one of those essential tools the WMF should support. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:26, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- Mr.Z-man did reply about toolserver migration issues a while back, by linking an email thread. I'm not sure where things stand now. Maybe the content of that thread is still up-to-date in Mr.Z-man's mind. I've asked about this to Maggie on how to "escalate" to receive more support. Biosthmors (talk) 10:58, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, thank you for expanding medicine to 1500 from 500 a while back, in case I didn't thank you before. Biosthmors (talk) 10:58, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- I have been trying to patch together a solution for a couple of years now but repeatedly asking people to help. I too have external partners who want to know how much impact their funding is having (how much the content is viewed in the languages we are translating into). Maybe if we put together a coalition of editors together we can get some programmer time? This seems like one of those essential tools the WMF should support. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:26, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- While a long term solution would of course be nice, I'm requesting this exception because the external partners are active right now and over the next couple of months, so it's a bit too urgent to wait for a perfect solution. --99of9 (talk) 04:13, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- I have been working to find someone to help move this tool over to Wikimedia labs. It needs to be improved so new languages and new projects can be added. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- It is something that I am still working on. I've gotten caught up with the old data and done some more work on the new program. I should be ready to start testing it soon, at least for English. As far as adapting it for other languages, if they use enwiki-style projects, those will be easiest. But it's more "modular" than the current program, so would be adaptable for others as well.
- Since the majority of the NSW articles should already be included under the Australia project and it's only 6500 pages total, it shouldn't cause any problems to add that. Since August is already done, the new data won't be available until early next month. Mr.Z-man 17:25, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- The plan is to add some WP styling in other languages. This will be an extra reason to do so. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:32, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- Cheers. Early next month is fine. Thanks. --99of9 (talk) 21:20, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
UBLPs again
Hi, I thought your bot could work out that articles like this actually have references. If it can't I think that it shouldn't run until it can detect when it is the "unreferenced" tag that is wrong, not just assume that it's missing the "BLP" part. A bot changing one wrong tag to another incorrect tag is useless. Regards, The-Pope (talk) 16:13, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
- I think this was brought up a long time ago and the conclusion was that it is impossible for a bot to detect whether something is really a "reference." You can have links and things in ref tags that aren't valid references, and things that aren't links and aren't in ref tags that are valid. Considering that the majority of the tag changes are correct and these changes aren't really negative, I would hardly call the entire task useless. Mr.Z-man 16:37, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
- "majority of the tag changes are correct" do you have any stats on that? I wouldn't agree. Bots shouldn't change one wrong tag to another wrong tag. If identification of refs is too hard for a bot then it should only generate a list of "possibly unreferenced articles about possibly living people not tagged with BLP unreferenced", and leave the. tag changing to humans. The-Pope (talk) 02:46, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- Unless the subject of the article isn't also alive, it's not making it any more wrong. I still don't see the harm. I don't feel like looking through 20,000 edits to verify, so I just picked 5 random ones out of the ones it did the other day:
- Sid Makkar - correct
- Santiago Nazarian - correct
- Fulgencio Obelmejias - basically correct (the link verifies some of the content in the table, but little else)
- Amrapali Dubey - correct
- Mark R. Cohen - correct-ish (the only sort-of reference was a dead link)
- Generating a list is basically just turning 1 backlog into 2. Now instead of having people source or tag for deletion, they'll also have to go through a list just to see whether the tag needs to be changed and remove the tag if it's wrong, something that they would do anyways without the extra list. It's essentially the same amount of work for users, probably slightly more. The only "benefit" would be saving a few edits. Mr.Z-man 03:26, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- Unless the subject of the article isn't also alive, it's not making it any more wrong. I still don't see the harm. I don't feel like looking through 20,000 edits to verify, so I just picked 5 random ones out of the ones it did the other day:
- "majority of the tag changes are correct" do you have any stats on that? I wouldn't agree. Bots shouldn't change one wrong tag to another wrong tag. If identification of refs is too hard for a bot then it should only generate a list of "possibly unreferenced articles about possibly living people not tagged with BLP unreferenced", and leave the. tag changing to humans. The-Pope (talk) 02:46, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
Please see my userfication request at WP:REFUND. Could you perform this? Northamerica1000(talk) 11:15, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Done Mr.Z-man 14:21, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for performing this. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 15:13, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
wikitools
Hey. It's wonderful to see you active again! :-)
If you're looking for a quick project, I had a thought earlier this year that wikitools should be on GitHub. With a README similar to this one, I think a presence on GitHub would make wikitools significantly more popular. Hope you're well. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:10, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- I suppose so. I guess I could do it when I start migrating things to Tool Labs. Mr.Z-man 04:24, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Your reverts
Can you explain to me the reason behind your reverts to my deletions of redirects? It surely fits [8] rule just fine. Moreover, I waited more than 2 days.--Mishae (talk) 18:35, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Criteria R2 is for a redirect between namespaces, like between an article and a userpage. I note that in your earlier request for deletion you said that it can be made into a stub. If you want to do that, you can simply overwrite the redirect, there is no need to delete it first. In the meantime, it should be maintained as a redirect to the most relevant page. Mr.Z-man 18:41, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Jeopardy! set evolution
Can you please provide backup for your comment "csd previously declined"? The article was previously speedily deleted and WP:SALTed based on CSD G4 guidelines on April 28, 2009, after discussion in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeopardy! set evolution (3rd nomination). The article was deleted after recreation on May 20, 2009, and deleted and salted again on September 8, 2010 after another recreation. [9] AldezD (talk) 22:56, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- Nyttend removed a CSD tag claiming it was "nowhere near the same." To me it looks identical, so I left a comment on his talk page asking for clarification. I would suggest continuing the discussion there. Mr.Z-man 00:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Aldez failed to observe that it had been changed around a good deal since the relevant AFD in 2009 (e.g. the addition of multiple paragraphs), and he also failed to observe that the undeletion was performed per WP:C, as some of its contents had been copied to another article; see the {{Copied}} template that I've placed at Talk:Jeopardy!. Nyttend (talk) 12:47, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Did I miss something?
Hi Mr.Z-man, I'm a new admin. I handled the AIV for 142.134.180.190 and blocked. But then I saw you also disabled account creation due to apparent sockpuppetry. I guess I missed something? How can I be sure not to make that mistake in the future? Thanks... Zad68
04:11, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- No, it was after a request at RFPP actually. The edits of the IP correspond with similar edits to the same article Amherst Cove by 2 new accounts around the same time. The 2nd account didn't appear until after your block. So I just changed it to a hardblock for good measure. Your block was fine with the information you had. Mr.Z-man 04:16, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) It is nice to see your wisdom being transmitted. =) Thank you for your contributions Mr.Z-man. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 16:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- +1 absolutely!
Zad68
17:03, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- +1 absolutely!
- (talk page stalker) It is nice to see your wisdom being transmitted. =) Thank you for your contributions Mr.Z-man. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 16:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
High Court (disambiguation)
Can you restore or userfy High Court (disambiguation) for me? From search, it appears it was a redirect to List of national supreme courts, probably as a result of a flawed merge. There is an article High Court which is just a list, but the page history shows that it started out as a disambiguation. High Court probably should not be merged to List of national supreme courts because some high courts are not national supreme courts – they are lower level courts. I'm on the fence over whether High Court should remain a list or be converted back to a dab. As a list it has an odd hatnote, and it's also odd to have a long list of "high courts" when we have no high court article. Actually the title High Court worked when it was a dab, but should be high court if it's about a generic type of court. Do you have an opinion on that? Thanks, Wbm1058 (talk) 02:04, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- There's not really any significant history worth restoring. It was a redirect to High Court, then it was a redirect to List of national supreme courts, then back to High Court. It never had any real content and has no incoming links. It seems to me it would make the most sense to turn High Court into a proper dab page, at least until someone wants to write an article on the subject. Mr.Z-man 02:15, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Wiki Page on actor
Please find below the links for reference for the actor Joju George. Could you restore the page as the actor is well-known and is a notable person in malayalam movie industry. I believe the page was deleted because there were no links provided for reference. Request you to restore the page after verifying the links given below. http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/high-on-adventure/article4462216.ece http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130806/entertainment-mollywood/article/what%E2%80%99s-cooking http://www.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/malayalamContentView.do?contentId=14800515&programId=1073752204&channelId=-1073750705&BV_ID=@@@&tabId=3 http://www.malayalachalachithram.com/movieslist.php?a=10289 http://www.cinemascoop.in/celebrity/963-joju-george http://www.momdb.com/actor/Joju+George http://www.nowrunning.com/movie/11855/malayalam/hotel-california/4222/review.htm http://hotstillsindia.blogspot.in/2013/08/pullipulikalum-aatinkuttiyum-malayalam.html http://m.imdb.com/name/nm5852449/filmotype/actor http://www.movieorange.com/trailer/index.php?topic=detail&category=Review&article=5184817ca3d10 http://www.etickets.sg/movie-listings http://archive.is/8D9wL http://browse.feedreader.com/c/Malayalam_s_cinema/336235670 http://www.spiderkerala.net/forum/3163-Kili-Poyi-An-Upcoming-Comedy-Thriller.aspx http://theaterbalcony.com/movie/kili-poyi-malayalam-movie-review/ http://vpn-reviews.blogspot.in/2013/05/hotel-california.html http://kerala9.com/news/hotel-california-malayalam-movie-review/ http://www.balconybeats.com/tag/joju-george http://www.indian-mdb.com/2013_05_01_archive.html http://www.fwdlife.in/cat/people/conversation/ http://www.fwdlife.in/in-conversation-with-joju/ http://www.madaboutmoviez.com/2013/05/neram-movie-review/ http://www.nowrunning.com/movie/11855/malayalam/hotel-california/4222/review.htm There are references to this actor in the wiki pages pof the movies he has acted.
Prardhana (talk) 07:06, 15 October 2013 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Prardhana (talk • contribs) 05:33, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
- The issue is not whether he exists or whether he actually appeared in movies, the issue was whether he was notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia. That generally requires significant coverage of the topic in multiple reliable sources.
- [10], [11] [12] [13] [14], [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24], are about movies, only mention that he played a role, and barely discuss him at all outside the context of his character, many don't even do that and only list him as a supporting actor. They definitely do not pass the threshold of "significant coverage." Some are also blogs or other types of unreliable sources.
- [25] [26] [27] [28] are basically just lists of what movies he was in with little to no additional discussion. Anyone who has ever had a named credit in a movie or TV show can get their name on sites like these. And these types of sites are usually user-edited, so they are not considered reliable sources.
- [29] might qualify in that it actually says more than characters he has played, but the coverage is still pretty minimal. It was also in the article when it was being discussed, so other users apparently didn't consider it sufficient.
- [30] is the only link that's actually about him
- But I'm not going to overturn a deletion discussion on my own because of a 4 question interview for a magazine. You can open a new discussion here, but if you want a chance, do not just paste a big list of links. You need to find articles like [31] that are actually about him, not about movies he appeared in. Mr.Z-man 14:04, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank You so much for a detailed reply. I am new to wiki and this is my first article. I am in search of more reliable sources so that I can get the page validated and added in wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prardhana (talk • contribs) 16:16, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Recently the {{Afd top}} was modified, that changed the div class from "boilerplate metadata afd vfd xfd-closed" to "boilerplate afd vfd xfd-closed", that rendered User:Mr.Z-man/hideClosedAFD.js unusable. Could you adapt your script to that change? Armbrust The Homunculus 11:03, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
- Should be working now, bypass your cache. Mr.Z-man 17:03, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
162.227.237.255 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
Please affix a notice of this IP's block on the talk page. S/he has already gone and deleted all of the other block notices, too. Thanks. --Jprg1966 (talk) 18:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Out of curiosity.
I watch User:Snotbot/AfD report, and it's had a subpage of yours (User:Mr.Z-man/test) listed (AfD templates in the wrong namespace) for a while, and it's kind of bugging me. If you don't mind, if you're done testing, could you either remove the template or let me know so I can do it? No hurry, but my mini-OCD is getting the better of me. Thanks, Ansh666 20:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- Of course. I'm working on a new version of my AFD closing script, so I need pages formatted like an AFD/article to test on until it's stable enough to test on real articles. Mr.Z-man 20:12, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, cool. (I use your current version right now, by the way!) Thanks, Ansh666 20:19, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
New REFBot
There is a proposal on Wikipedia:Bot requests#New REFBot for a new REFBot working as DPL bot and BracketBot do. I beg politely for consideration. Please leave a comment if you wish. Maybe you could work on it like you did it with other projects? That would be fine. Thanks a lot in anticipation. -- Frze (talk · contribs) 10:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Forgot to sign
[32] NE Ent 02:42, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Can you extend time of "pending changes" for this article? --George Ho (talk) 02:56, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- There haven't been any problematic edits in a few days and it's not set to expire for another week. Any particular reason? Mr.Z-man 03:15, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
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AfD closing script
Hi Mr.Z-man, as you'll probably see I've closed the RFC regarding PRODs and deletion without prejudice (soft deletion). Part of the successful outcome is that WP:Soft deletion in endorsed as the procedural outcome for AfDs with no comment other than the nominator's. The script will probably need to be updated with this as one of the preloaded outcomes, see WP:SOFTDELETE for more info. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:37, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- Please don't do this quite yet. I expect to see this pretty heavily contested. Might well be where we end up, but give it a week if you don't mind. Thanks, Hobit (talk) 07:33, 6 November 2013 (UTC)