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Back in January you reverted this article to a redirect to My Chemical Romance. A new version of the article has been created and nominated for DYK. To my eye, the sourcing is dubious rather than reliable (mostly TV.com, with a bit of IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes thrown in), and I'm not convinced that notability has been established. Can you take a look to see whether Mikey is now notable, or the article is premature? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:45, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late response, BlueMoonset. You'd probably be better off getting another admin to take a look at this article; unfortunately, I'm kind of on a wikibreak right now having burnt out on copyright issues. Sorry, — madman 15:13, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
MadmanBot down
It looks like it hasn't been running in a few days. Any chance you can restart it?
As I recall the script just crashes when it hits blacklisted URLs (and a few other rarer situations), so back when I had a connection that could handle me running my backup I launched it with the following shell script to keep it up and running as much as possible.
while true
- do
- perl csb.pl
done
VernoWhitney (talk) 14:07, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I'll restart it when I get homeI've restarted it. It's pretty resilient; I think it had been running since early last month until now with no intervention. But I'll have to set up a Nagios trigger to restart it at some point as I get more and more busy at work. Thanks! — madman 21:13, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for handling it. I've never used Nagios, I'll have to look into that for my own projects. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:14, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Glitch in MadmanBot
Can you take a look at this edit from MadmanBot and see what it is doing? There's a thread over at WP:HD with a user that wants to know what is going on, and in investigating it looks like MadmanBot had a little malfunction, because it tagged the article as a copyvio of itself, I don't know how that works, exactly. Could you look into this and then comment over at the thread at WP:HD? Thanks! --Jayron32 14:45, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
- Here are other examples: [1][2][3]. Google is often very fast to index Wikipedia articles. I think they use a feed. If MadmanBot makes a Google search right after page creation then it has to check whether the hit is the page itself. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:18, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) It's a bug caused by the single apostrophe in the article names. I'll take a look at my code (not MadmanBot but a near-cousin) and see how I handled it. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:52, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
- Within
sub TagPage ($$$)
along with the rest of the reasons to not tag a page I added the following line:return "already-tagged" if $type eq 'wikipage' && decode_entities($title) eq $what;
- That or something similar should do the trick. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:18, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
- Within
- I had thought that my approval didn't cover changes to CorenSearchBot's code, but upon review I did mention I'd fixed some problems with HTML entities, so I'll reinstate those fixes (they were removed when I updated to CorenSearchBot's latest code release). Cheers, — madman 04:49, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
False positives
Regarding this diff, it would be possible to reduce the number of similar false positives by searching matched content for 'Wikipedia'. — C M B J 05:52, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- It's probably safer to just add that website to User:MadmanBot/exclude. Legoktm (talk) 05:57, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- That would be the best way, yes. I need to figure out how to publicize that page better, maybe on the bot's User page. — madman 06:45, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
MadmanBot
I've just had to block MadmanBot as it's obviously malfunctioning. It hasn't tagged any copyvios all day, but it has left over 500 warning messages to one editor concerning Monarchy of Sierra Leone. Feel free to unblock if you think you've fixed the problem. Hut 8.5 17:30, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- Wow. I've profusely apologized to that contributor. I'm unblocking, but I have halted that task and will only restart it once I'm 100% sure what happened. This may be a sign that it's time to stop using Coren's code and rewrite in a language with which I'm more familiar. Thanks, — madman 22:46, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- FWIW, it looks like only some manual requests are being processed by the bot. I had added one for the Maersk Lines and it's still stuck on unprocessed. Blue Riband► 17:22, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not running the bot at all while I'm rewriting it. It's not processing any manual requests. I apologize for the inconvenience. — madman 18:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- I haven't looked at my logs yet, but your bot isn't the only one that had a freak out -- see an example from VWBot which wasn't using any of the same code as the SCV task (it's not even in perl). VernoWhitney (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting! I'm 99% sure of what happened now. How does your code handle circumstances in which action=edit returns a result other than Success? Coren's code will keep retrying the edit until it does get a result of Success, whereas I prefer to have my code throw an exception (as that's an exceptional condition), print debug information, and die so I can protect against that condition in the future. Clearly the API was giving my bot a result other than Success; while I don't know what that result was, I am approved to fix bugs like that and bring the bot back up without having to get approval for a total revamp just yet. Excellent! — madman 00:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- I haven't looked at my logs yet, but your bot isn't the only one that had a freak out -- see an example from VWBot which wasn't using any of the same code as the SCV task (it's not even in perl). VernoWhitney (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not running the bot at all while I'm rewriting it. It's not processing any manual requests. I apologize for the inconvenience. — madman 18:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- MadmanBot has been restarted. — madman 02:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Is it comparing articles to themselves now? See my two IAF queries. I'm no programmer, so have no idea. Just a heads up. David_FLXD (Talk) 20:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Manual requests don't go through all the same normalization routines that automatic requests go through before they get tagged. I'll put those articles in the queue again with spaces and if the same thing happens, see what the bug is. Thanks, — madman 22:22, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Is it comparing articles to themselves now? See my two IAF queries. I'm no programmer, so have no idea. Just a heads up. David_FLXD (Talk) 20:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- FWIW, it looks like only some manual requests are being processed by the bot. I had added one for the Maersk Lines and it's still stuck on unprocessed. Blue Riband► 17:22, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Happy New Year (and HighBeam round 6)
Hey Madman, once you recover from jovial wine-soaked solstice celebrations, and giving MadmanBot a good troutsmack, would you possibly be able to send out HighBeam round 6?
- Email list: User:Ocaasi/Highbeam6
- Email message: User:Ocaasi/Highbeammessageemail
- Remaining codes: same shared spreadsheet
Please let me know if you have any questions about it. Cheers! Ocaasi t | c 22:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- I will try to do this this evening. Cheers, — madman 18:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- There are forty codes available and forty-seven users. What shall I do? Just give a code to the first forty? — madman 03:40, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks. Sorry I took so long to reply. Yeah, just do the first 40. I'll notify the last seven that we ran out. Also will contact HighBeam about getting some more access. Ocaasi t | c 21:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- Everyone e-mailed successfully except Tijfo098 (talk · contribs). ("This user has chosen not to receive e-mail from other users."). I've updated the spreadsheet. Cheers, — madman 04:04, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Awesome. Thank you. Ocaasi t | c 04:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Everyone e-mailed successfully except Tijfo098 (talk · contribs). ("This user has chosen not to receive e-mail from other users."). I've updated the spreadsheet. Cheers, — madman 04:04, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks. Sorry I took so long to reply. Yeah, just do the first 40. I'll notify the last seven that we ran out. Also will contact HighBeam about getting some more access. Ocaasi t | c 21:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- There are forty codes available and forty-seven users. What shall I do? Just give a code to the first forty? — madman 03:40, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Hermann Freese
Hi, your bot tagged Hermann Freese for possible copyright violation. The text was taken from a public domain book. I see two possible methods of avoiding this: either exclude http://www.ebooksread.com as a possible source (since it contains many public domain books), or exclude articles tagged with Template:Bryan (and other similar tags, see Category:Reference works in the public domain). If neither of these is possible, don't worry, I can always simply remove your tags, but it does clutter up the edit history and looks so ugly on my talk page :-) Fram (talk) 14:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- The bot has a list of templates that indicate public domain sources; I have added
{{Bryan}}
to that list. Feel free to remove the tag (with an appropriate edit summary so SCV volunteers know what's going on) and the warning. Cheers! — madman 01:31, 17 January 2013 (UTC)- Thanks! Fram (talk) 08:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
MadmanBot down
Your helpful little collection of bits and bytes has ceased operation again. VernoWhitney (talk) 22:23, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- Restarted 21:43, 23 January 2013 (UTC). — madman 21:07, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Questia Round 2 (last one for a while)
Hey Madman. This should be the last one for some time, as HighBeam and Credo are wrapped up and Questia is just trickling in at this point. Thanks again for your indispensable help.
- Email message: User:Ocaasi/Questiamessageemail
- Approved users: User:Ocaasi/questia2
- Spreadsheet: same as before, but the Questia one of course.
Would love to check in about Turnitin next week if you have a good 30 min window. If not, we'll do an email roundup. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 20:17, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- 65 sent, 6 not sent (reasons on approved users list). I'll see what I can do next week; it's possible I'll be in PA on business. Cheers, — madman 18:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- Great, thank you. If near Philly, you're in my neck of the woods. Open offer for drinks on me should you be able to escape the office. Ocaasi t | c 19:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Email issues
Hey Madman, sorry to bother you. I've had 3 editors so far tell me that their codes never delivered, and none tell me yet they got them (note: the 3 were not in the original six that failed). Is it possible that the bot didn't deliver, if so can we check, and if necessary, can we run it again? Best, Ocaasi t | c 20:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- Per e-mail discussion over the last couple days, not sure what the problem was but it's likely been resolved; going to try to re-deliver sometime today. Cheers, — madman 21:07, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
- I've re-delivered and this time I got Cced messages from MediaWiki so I think this has been resolved. Cheers, — madman 00:34, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for setting up the bot job. It worked fine. It's a bit unintuitive, though, that one has to provide both codes in one concatenated string - had to check thrice until i got it ;) So, if there come up any questions, that might be a cause. Best regards, Ca$e (talk) 10:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- Great troubleshooting Madman. Thanks again. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 21:07, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for setting up the bot job. It worked fine. It's a bit unintuitive, though, that one has to provide both codes in one concatenated string - had to check thrice until i got it ;) So, if there come up any questions, that might be a cause. Best regards, Ca$e (talk) 10:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- I've re-delivered and this time I got Cced messages from MediaWiki so I think this has been resolved. Cheers, — madman 00:34, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Looks to me like MadmanBot reported a copyright infringement for a Wikipedia mirror (mashpedia). I've removed the notice and put a comment on the talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) It was at Mashpedia because the first incarnation of the page was already deleted. Speedily (A7) so this doesn't qualify for G4, and by the same author, so no attribution history needs to be restored. VernoWhitney (talk) 02:43, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- I know you're trying to help, which I appreciate, but, unfortunately, I don't follow what you're saying. I just want to know why MadmanBot reported copyright infringement for an apparent mirror. I'm assuming that MadmanBot is aware of mirrors; otherwise, there would be false notices all the time. Am I missing something?--Bbb23 (talk) 02:55, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- MadmanBot can't automagically detect mirrors; it's not, in a sense, aware of anything. It has to be told what sites are mirrors. The list it observes is here. Thanks, — madman 03:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- That was my guess. Does that mean you'll add mashpieda to the list?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Anyone may do so. I now have done so at your request. Thanks. — madman 04:54, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll (hopefully) remember that in the future.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:46, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
- Anyone may do so. I now have done so at your request. Thanks. — madman 04:54, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- That was my guess. Does that mean you'll add mashpieda to the list?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- MadmanBot can't automagically detect mirrors; it's not, in a sense, aware of anything. It has to be told what sites are mirrors. The list it observes is here. Thanks, — madman 03:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- I know you're trying to help, which I appreciate, but, unfortunately, I don't follow what you're saying. I just want to know why MadmanBot reported copyright infringement for an apparent mirror. I'm assuming that MadmanBot is aware of mirrors; otherwise, there would be false notices all the time. Am I missing something?--Bbb23 (talk) 02:55, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Please delist me
I was approved for HighBeam in Round 5. When I applied it appeared I would have lots more time in the future to devote to article creation etc, but that didn't eventuate. It would be more useful to a more active editor so please cancel my authority to use and give it to someone on the waiting list. Moriori (talk) 22:23, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not involved in the Wikipedia Library project at all; I'm just the messenger. I'll ping Ocaasi (talk · contribs). Did you use the code you were given? If not, I assume it may be given to someone else to use but if so, I assume instead that it's gone. — madman 02:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks Madman, I'll continue this on Moriori's talk page. Cheers! Ocaasi t | c 02:27, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I know you said not to make any manual reports so I won't, but when are the next round of reports coming for March? It doesn't seem the bot sent out notifications. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 07:04, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, BUGGER. I did the report (so I'm not sure what you mean by that; it's the first section on the page), but I did forget to send out the first round of notifications. I'll do that now, and it's up to the bureaucrats whether to delay the desysop date; I'll configure the bot accordingly. Thanks and apologies, — madman 07:16, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, by report I also had assumed you meant the notification process, so sorry for the confusion there. Thanks for taking care of it, mate. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 08:12, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
SCV is botless again
Since my connection isn't sufficient to keep VWBot running as backup, and I still haven't gotten around to migrating it to something other than my home server. VernoWhitney (talk) 03:16, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- Restarted. I'll put an automatic restart on it within a couple days; it's just that the last time I did that, the bot ended up leaving 500 messages on that poor sod's talk page. Sure, the two events turned out to be unrelated but you can't work in IT and not indulge a certain amount of superstition. In any case, wish I'd known sometime before it was down for two weeks. — madman 03:38, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hey there! I'm working on the new Labs infrastructure for tools and bots which (amongst other things) will allow shared custody of specific tools. CSBot seems like a very nice test case, given that three of us have traditionally operated it at different times. How do you feel about being one of the test cases? :-) MPelletier (WMF) (talk) 16:38, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm. Right now I have it on its own instance because it's part of a larger research project. I'm also a little concerned over shared custody because it uses Yahoo! BOSS credentials belonging to the WMF. I'll think about it (probably once I've rewritten it as I plan). Cheers! — madman 22:59, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hopefully this shouldn't be a problem in the future; I installed nagios-core on the server and set it up to e-mail me when certain files stop showing signs of activity (checking for the existence of the process wouldn't have helped in this case as the bot was apparently still running). Thanks, — madman 08:34, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
Your bot sucks the big one!
← I've revised the existing fix to take a rather shotgun approach toward attempting to address all cases. It's 3:30 a.m. where I am and I'm beyond tired by now. If Canoe1967 or any other user wishes to take me to ANI for going to bed when the bot has not been "proven as fixed", they are more than welcome to do so and I'll continue this in the morning. But I recommend a nice cup of tea and a sit down instead; they're much more fulfilling in the long run. Wishing a good night to all, — madman 08:39, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
Notice
Hi Madman, I just wanted to let you know about this discussion at AN/I in which you're mentioned. Have a great weekend. --76.189.111.199 (talk) 09:12, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
And now for something completely different
Hinny electric robot, the' hev iv cum from similar ideas but the strength iv aad an' plump is strang an' fo' the reason this article shud remain, see. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scot Ric Scot Ric (talk • contribs) 15:47, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- ... what. — madman 19:54, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- I don't read jive or Iyaric as well as I can speak them but I think he has concerns about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obamafuscation. Was it a copyvio?--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:06, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- I haven't reviewed it, but from what I understand it was pretty blatantly copied from [4] (according to the Duplication Detector report he dumped on my bot's talk page for no reason). — madman 20:10, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- I don't read jive or Iyaric as well as I can speak them but I think he has concerns about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obamafuscation. Was it a copyvio?--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:06, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Bot Data Reprise
Hello madman...I hope this finds you well. About a year ago, you helped me with my bot research by aggregating bot edits and bot registrations for many of the WM projects. I'm wondering if you'd be able to run that query again for some updated stats. I know you're quite busy, so no worries if this is a bit much to ask (in that case, if you know someone else who could aid me, I'd appreciate the referral). Thank you in advance for the consideration! UOJComm (talk) 14:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sure, I can probably do this sometime near the end of next week (I'm having eye surgery, so I'll have a couple days off). Thanks, — madman 21:00, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- That is really awesome...thanks so much. I am drafting a book chapter on bots across different language versions of Wikipedia (stats on bots as well as comparing approval processes, etc.). Updated data would be extremely helpful, and I will certainly acknowledge your contribution. I'm not sure if it's your thing, but if you're interested collaborating on this or a related project (i.e. coauthoring for academic publication), please let me know. It doesn't pay well (ha! doesn't pay anything!) except for the cultural capital. Anyway, best of luck with your surgery, and thank you again for your help with this. UOJComm (talk) 18:47, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry I've been putting this off; I miss one day at work and everything catches on fire. I'll make sure I pull these stats this weekend. Regarding research opportunities, I'll contact you via e-mail probably at the same time I have the stats; I'd be pretty interested. Cheers! — madman 23:01, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- That is really awesome...thanks so much. I am drafting a book chapter on bots across different language versions of Wikipedia (stats on bots as well as comparing approval processes, etc.). Updated data would be extremely helpful, and I will certainly acknowledge your contribution. I'm not sure if it's your thing, but if you're interested collaborating on this or a related project (i.e. coauthoring for academic publication), please let me know. It doesn't pay well (ha! doesn't pay anything!) except for the cultural capital. Anyway, best of luck with your surgery, and thank you again for your help with this. UOJComm (talk) 18:47, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- bot-registrations data is done and bot-edits data is accumulating. I'll pull both sets of data in the morning if the latter is ready, make them less "raw", and send them off. I couldn't remember which of my backups the previous scripts and data were in, so the data may not look the same as before, but it'll all be there and do feel free to let me know if you need anything else. Thanks! — madman 05:55, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- Damn it, the accumulator got killed for excessive memory usage. I'm going to have to split it into more stages. Sorry for the delay. — madman 23:02, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- Rewrote in C++ (never worked with MySQL in C++ before) and now the accumulator's taking a constant 8.3M or so. Beautiful. I hope to have results for you by tomorrow. — madman 04:19, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Damn it, the accumulator got killed for excessive memory usage. I'm going to have to split it into more stages. Sorry for the delay. — madman 23:02, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- I have all the data and have at least massaged timestamps into Excel dates so they're easier to work with. I haven't done any charts because honestly, I can't remember how I did them before (at least the growth over time one; maybe you did that). In any case, do I have your e-mail address so I can send these to you? I thought I did (in case you had any followup questions on the interview) but I can't find it and I can't send attachments through Special:Emailuser. Cheers! — madman 21:47, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Awesome! Thanks so much for your help with this! Now I need to find bot community members on non-English versions to chat with about policy! You can email me at rlivings@endicott.edu. I've been hanging out on IRC more often again, so perhaps we can chat there about this data. I hope everything went well with the surgery. UOJComm (talk) 18:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- I've e-mailed you the data. The surgery went very well; thank you for asking. I'm almost at perfect vision; hope to be there by the end of the month. — madman 18:28, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Awesome! Thanks so much for your help with this! Now I need to find bot community members on non-English versions to chat with about policy! You can email me at rlivings@endicott.edu. I've been hanging out on IRC more often again, so perhaps we can chat there about this data. I hope everything went well with the surgery. UOJComm (talk) 18:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Getting ready
Hey Madman, almost done, just need a comment from you: [5]. Hope you're well, Ocaasi t | c 16:01, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- I did get your e-mail; going to do this tonight. Thanks, — madman 16:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry to be a nag. Trout me later. Ocaasi t | c 17:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- If you don't nag me, it's unlikely I'll do it anytime soon; you've probably learned that by now. No trout for you. — madman 17:34, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry to be a nag. Trout me later. Ocaasi t | c 17:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
DegenFarang
Hi. About ten months ago, you unblocked DegenFarang (talk · contribs) after he was indeffed for harassing other editors, particularly in poker related articles. Could you take a look at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Interaction ban, as I'm proposing an interaction ban between him and 2005 (talk · contribs) (but not necessarily vice versa) to try and avoid any more disruption from him. Cheers. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:09, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- I have left an ANI notice for 2005 (talk · contribs) as DegenFarang (talk · contribs) failed to do so and I think his input is necessary to the proposal. Thanks, — madman 21:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- I have reinstated the indefinite block. — madman 02:03, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Lots of copyright violations in AfC
Coren said you were currently running the CorenSearchBot - Can you have a quick read of Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Articles for creation#Reviewers: Please check for copyright violations! and reply? TIA Ronhjones (Talk) 20:49, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
False positive
Hey Madman. I just wanted to let you know that there may be an issue with the bot tagging false positives. I recently created New York Central Tugboat 16, and it placed a tag there that said that it was copied directly from another site. I already raised the issue there for the editor who will revert the bot, but the issue was that the issues that are supposedly enough to tag are just preference for sharing the same prose, and there are really only two or three things that would warrant a tag, and they are five words long. I could flip words around to make it better, but I was wondering if there has been an issue in the past where the bots that do this task have tagged such small positives as this, or is it just a small fluke that I am making too much of a big deal out of. Thanks for the help! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:53, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say false positives are a frequent issue. The bot has some technical limitations in the kind of analysis it can do; for example, it's restricted to analyzing a (relatively) small portion of the beginning of a Web page due to memory constraints. It's also important to note that its analysis is not the same kind of analysis that Duplication Detector does; they are two different kinds of tools. In any case, I apologize for the false positive. For almost all of the limitations I've identified in the code I inherited from Coren, I have planned improvements for the next version of this task, and I have high hopes for its efficacy. Thanks! — madman 04:45, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
- No problem! The bot's error actually has led to me cleaning out that category enough that there is no longer a backlog, so I guess it was a good thing at the day. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:12, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
False positive
False positive for article La Rumorosa. Please revise your bot to specifically exclude templates Robogun (talk) 20:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- It does, but looking at the regular expression it uses, there may be an issue with nested templates (i.e., it ignored everything from {{Infobox settlement to {{flag|Egypt}}). I have added this to my TODO list for the next version. Thanks, — madman 20:26, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Was just about to post about this as well. If there's a way to whitelist http://hewgill.com/~greg/wikiblame/simple/Asyut.html, then that would be of great help, since i've seen about 6-8 in the past two weeks, and it's tiring noting all those false positives. Wizardman 02:16, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- Done [6] — madman 02:25, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- Was just about to post about this as well. If there's a way to whitelist http://hewgill.com/~greg/wikiblame/simple/Asyut.html, then that would be of great help, since i've seen about 6-8 in the past two weeks, and it's tiring noting all those false positives. Wizardman 02:16, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
False positive
I just merged a bunch of pages into List of Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue characters and the bot started yelling at me because it found a mirror of one of the old pages.—Ryulong (琉竜) 01:26, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- Added to list of known Wikipedia mirrors [7]. Thank you! — madman 04:11, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- Got one more for you to add: http://www.mnopedia.org; it's CC-BY-SA so acceptable to use. Wizardman 04:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- Done. — madman 04:46, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- Got one more for you to add: http://www.mnopedia.org; it's CC-BY-SA so acceptable to use. Wizardman 04:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Madman bot error
Just thought I'd let you know about this weird error. Instead of removing the name, it replaced with with a malformed entry. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 00:02, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- And it appears to have struck again. [8] Regards, — Moe Epsilon 17:35, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'll try to take care of this tonight and update then. Cheers, — madman 00:03, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Clarification on *Developmental Primitive Reflex Therapy* Article
on the Article *Developmental Primitive Reflex Therapy* I am myself Sanjay kumar Verma and Own the therapy and I thought creating this article will be answer to queries send me. If you have any objection than please delete the article. Thanks Sanjay Kumar Verma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sananjuverma (talk • contribs) 15:10, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- Note: Both articles (Developmental Primitive Reflex Therapy (DPRT) and Developmental Primitive Reflex Therapy ((DPRT) (PRT)) were deleted per CSD g12. If you'd like to release content to Wikipedia that has been republished elsewhere, please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Granting us permission to copy material already online. Thanks, — madman 02:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
False positive
False positive for article Yoo Dong-geun, the bot tagged it as a copy of [9] because they both list titles of movies and TV shows the actor has appeared in. I'm not sure that can be fixed, but the bot should at least ignore phrases that are always present in MediaWiki websites, like "retrieved from http", "navigation main page", "privacy policy about", "toolbox what links here related changes", "this page was last modified on", "jump to navigation search", since those are not part of the article's content. Mushroom (Talk) 10:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- The bot doesn't match against MediaWiki artifacts such as the ones you list because it only checks the content of the article, not how it's rendered. False positives caused by things such as filmographies, track listings, etc. with insufficient originality to merit copyright protection are a known problem and I hope to incorporate heuristics into the next version of MadmanBot that will cut down on them. Thanks, — madman 02:32, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
False positive
Sorry MADMAN BOT , BUT I DID SOME INFO THERE , I USE TO CORRECT IT , CHECK BRO :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by XxX--shinjiro--XxX (talk • contribs) 14:00, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- Note: Not sure if this is referring to STCJ or The Class Of STCJ 12-13, but both articles were deleted, per CSD g12 and CSD a7, respectively. — madman 02:34, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Bot error
I have replied to a message that your bot has left me. Please reply to me here. --Wudumindif (talk) 02:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
- Done I have replied there. The copyright violation the bot identified was valid. — madman 17:46, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Help
Hi , Its not copied work. It has come in different ways only but the book remains same. If the pothi links is a problem , it can be removed but the book is the same by the same author only . There is no problem . Donizo (talk) 11:47, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the part copied directly from the book only . I thought of writing the same as it is written on the book. Donizo (talk) 11:56, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Note: Article cleaned and then redirected. "Back jacket" synopses do have sufficient originality to merit copyright protection (the copyright is generally held by the publisher). Thanks, — madman 00:35, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Donizo (talk) 05:25, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Stechkin automatic pistol
I only changed the name of the article from Stechkin APS to Stechkin automatic pistol, so I don't know if any material has been copied directly from http://www.gunslot.com/pictures/stechkin-aps. --Arekoj (talk) 20:31, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- I've left a message for this editor explaining the situation. Hut 8.5 21:06, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! — madman 00:04, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Liam Payne (musician)
Everything is coming from the information previously on the members section of one direction so why wasn't it deleted then??? (BTW-I hate One Direction but am just trying to improve Wikipedia. I prefer the harder stuff like AC/DC and Zeppelin.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pollack man34 (talk • contribs) 01:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- The Web page MadmanBot identified did contain information from Wikipedia, to be sure. I'm unsure if that's always the case, so I have not added the Web site to MadmanBot's whitelist as of yet. However, the bot did correctly identify a secondary copyright issue in that you were copying from Wikipedia's contributors with no attribution. Please see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia for more information. Thanks, — madman 02:45, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Algernon Trust
Hi, I have followed the process to allow Algernon Trust page to be reinstated :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisak12 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Yet another one to whitelist
Hey. I'm seeing articles from http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.php?title=Main_Page pop up more and more often at SCV. The license there is CC-BY-SA like us, so it's in the clear. Wizardman 19:16, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- Done [10]. — madman 03:02, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Deletion of Article Rajit Gadh
I am writing in regards to the speedy deletion of article Rajit Gadh. I saw that phrases in the article matched a URL to the bio on IEEE.org site. However the original source of the bio is from the official UCLA SMERC website. I have now added licenses from CreativeCommons and GNU for use of the bio. How do I prevent MadManBot from detecting from IEEE.org?
Thanks.Ucsglarc (talk) 16:27, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I can't whitelist IEEE.org as most of the content at that Web site is indeed copyrighted, and they're particularly vehement in protecting their copyright. But if you re-create the article, you can place the
{{Text release}}
template on its talk page and this should protect it from deletion. If you'd like me to undelete the article, please just let me know. Thanks, — madman 23:56, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
MadmanBot false positive
I see the bot's started tagging AfC submissions. It tagged Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/cscqc as a copyvio from [11], although the only content the pages have in common is some templated instructions common to all AfC submissions. I imagine this is going to arise again in future, so is it possible to work around this? Hut 8.5 12:08, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- That's odd. The normalizewikitext function removes templates before doing comparisons. And having removed templates, I'd think there would have been too few tokens (words) in the article to do any comparisons. I'll look into this; thanks. — madman 15:31, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
For making sure nobody will infringe on another's work on Wikipedia and protecting us from legal troubles. Revolution1221 (talk) 01:53, 21 March 2013 (UTC) |
- Thanks! I do what I can. — madman 02:20, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Snoz
I wrote that article on the page you have posted. If you go to www.snoz.ca it is up there. I own Snoz the trademark and Snoz.ca — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emann56 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Note: Snoz was deleted not due to copyright concerns but due to unambiguous advertising or promotion. If you'd like to release content to Wikipedia that has been republished elsewhere, please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Granting us permission to copy material already online. Thanks, — madman 16:36, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Madmanbot
Oy. Since you use templates from your userspace rather than the csb- ones in Template, if both our bots are running mine can't notice yours. Is there a reason why you're using copies the the templates rather than the project-wide ones?
(Incidentally, I'm running CSBot from the Tool Labs as a guinea pig, in case you were wondering).
— MPelletier (WMF) (talk) 20:18, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- I've stopped CSBot for now since your copy now has extra functionality. Mind if we resync? :-) — MPelletier (WMF) (talk) 20:24, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- You know, I'm not 100% sure. I seem to recall having to search and replace something-- maybe some of the parameters didn't take a username parameter or use {{REVISIONUSER}}? Probably only a couple templates had a problem but I just copied the lot. I added {{User:MadmanBot/Csb- to regexes to see if a page was already tagged. And sure; I'll update User:MadmanBot/csb.pl in the morning or e-mail you my working copy; it's not as divergent as it used to be. Cheers, — madman 02:19, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have updated User:MadmanBot/csb.pl. Main changes:
- Userspace tags (I may revert these changes if I can't remember why I did them).
- Articles for Creation addition per Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MadmanBot 17 (ongoing).
- Removal of while loops after the bot left the same notice on an unfortunate editor's talk page hundreds of times.
- Changed
{{La}}
to{{La/x}}
per wishes of an SCV editor. - Potential decode entities fix (suggested by VernoWhitney, modified by myself).
- Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, — madman 17:00, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have updated User:MadmanBot/csb.pl. Main changes:
Self-help
See User talk:RHaworth#Self-help. I believe Tag469 when they say that Self Help, Inc. was not copied from http://www.linkedin.com/company/self-help-inc so it might be worthwhile taking a moment to find out why your bot thought it was. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:21, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Everything but the last sentence was copied from the Linkedin page (same content as the Facebook page), permalink here: http://www.linkedin.com/company/487275. Yahoo!'s results from Linkedin are sometimes confusing; I think they change URLs in some respect to be SEO-friendly, and sometimes there will be a list of results visible in a Web browser but the company profile for the #1 result in the page source. Unfortunately I don't think there's a lot that can be done to deal with that, but results from Linkedin are almost never false positives nonetheless. Thanks, — madman 17:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Please delete this one:
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Adrian_Visby_(activitst)
it has a spelling error on activist thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1000x7x8z10 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Note: Taken care of by Anthony Appleyard (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). Thanks, — madman 17:17, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
1996 Shooting
It was off of Tupac's page. It was too much info to be included in Shakur's articles, so I moved it to it's own page. It was not copied from the website listed since there seemed to be no problem with it on Shakur's article. Pollack man34 (talk) 23:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC) User:Pollack man34
- I've tagged this as a false positive and left a note. Hut 8.5 10:42, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! — madman 03:33, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
MadmanBot bug
Thought you ought to know the bot tagged Veryday as a copyvio of itself (with lower case) [12]. That's the first time I've seen it do this. Hut 8.5 17:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- That is weird. Not sure what to do about it, if anything. It was a valid tag, as the article's contents matched the earlier article deleted per CSD g11. — madman 03:36, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, I must have missed that. Hut 8.5 11:10, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
The Peoples Plan - Social Security
I am disappointed that you deleted my article. I provided a link from both your sight to my original article and from my article to the one I placed in Wiki. Having linking the two together should be adequate to show that I have admin access to the article. Since it is my article, and I wrote it there is no copyright infringements...please restore the link — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swanback (talk • contribs) 23:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Your edit to the blog post did not indicate that you agreed to license its content under any Wikipedia-compatible license. In order that there be no copyright concerns, I'd suggest you edit the blog post to say something similar to the following:
- The text of this website [or page, if you are specifically releasing one section] is available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).
- Please note that even if you do this, the article may be deleted if there are notability or advertising/promotional concerns. Thanks, — madman 23:58, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
/me raises eyebrow
Copyvio of itself? — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 05:51, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, of previous deleted revisions. When a page magically reappears all in one go, it's not likely that all the previous contributors have been credited, even if they should be. — madman 18:10, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Ustad Sibte Jaffar Zaidi
Dear Bot I wanted the correction in spelling so I created the article with corrected spellings and copied all data there now I want to delete the subkect article with wrong spelling name. Abulfazl 17:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- I have performed a history merge so all contributors to the page are credited appropriately. Please use MediaWiki's move tool to move a page in the future; please do not cut-and-paste pages. Thanks, — madman 18:12, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Really grateful to you. Abulfazl 16:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Dev Ross Page
Madman, so appreciative of the work you do...the information was not a copyright infringement, as I am the author of the IMDb article.
I am creating one already approved page in which Ms Ross is a producer. I went to IMDb for bio information and when it wasn't there, I requested it from her. She sent me info, asked if I could create something and include it on IMDb, which I did. If I had posted it on Wiki first, this wouldn't have been an issue.
I realized that there are many Wiki pages mentioning her, already, so, due to her vast contributions and awards in children's entertainment, she qualifies in having a page. On the Wiki page, I went further than just her bio and connected links, entered the dates of awards, connected the citations proving the information for the Emmy, PBS ACT, Humanatis, etc. awards. I hadn't finished with everything, due to time constraints, and saved an "article" that is a stub, but complete in informational purposes. Unfortunately, as I was responding to yet, another, editor, and adding in additional information, a third editor deleted my page and I did not have the most recent additions saved anywhere else.
I did create a talk page, after your alert, to let anyone else know that the information and document was my own writing, but that did not seem to deter the administrator, whose talk page shows she is deleting a lot of pages without review and she admits to being new. Quite frustrating as Dev is already mentioned in many Wiki articles and I was writing this page so that they could all reference her, as well as allow me to reference Dev in my article, keeping it from being "an orphan".
I truly appreciate the approach you took to allow me to remedy a situation before annihilation. I just don't know what to do to regain my lost hours of work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smacorder (talk • contribs) 22:29, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- Note: It looks like the original revision of this article was deleted per CSD g12, but the new article has not been tagged. In the future, when contributing material to Wikipedia that has been published elsewhere, e-mailing a permission statement to permissions-en (at) wikimedia.org per Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted material should help prevent such speedy deletion. I apologize for the inconvenience, and I would be happy to e-mail any of the deleted revisions to you or restore them into your user space if they will aid you in building the new article. Sorry for the late reply on this; I've been sick since this weekend. Thank you, — madman 01:29, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Copied Content
Hello, thanks for notifying me, actually the content has not been either copied nor it was done by mistake, if you thoroughly read the articles, there are four towers with same heights and number of floors, that's why the content of all these articles looks same, although they are different towers in reality. But i have tried my best to differentiate these articles from each other.
Nabil rais2008 (talk) 17:35, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure to which article this is referring, but I do acknowledge that by its nature MadmanBot may tag pages that are substantially and structurally similar to each other; if you are the sole contributor to all referenced pages, then this is a false positive (there are no copyright concerns) and I apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you, — madman 01:32, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
pyrat
Hi Madman, I got and warning about the copyright of the site pyrat.. I got the information from there and I use it to edith the site... some works have been changed but certainly all the content that the site www.scionics.com/pyrat has is well done and close enough to the information that it should have.
Thanks for your understanding. matoges
PS: I add the line saying that the content has been obtained from www.scionics.com/pyrat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matoges (talk • contribs) 14:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- Note: PyRAT was deleted per CSD g12 by Alexf (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). http://www.scionics.com/pyrat/ contains a copyright notice with all rights reserved and thus is not suitably licensed for contribution to Wikipedia. Thanks, — madman 00:06, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Nina Kahori Fallenbaum
Still working on this. Please give it a day. thanks--Aichik (talk) 18:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Danatrometer
my page is copied from my personal page tribute of an article i wrote myself . can u please clarify? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danatrometer (talk • contribs) 18:01, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- If you wish to donate material to Wikipedia that has previously been published elsewhere, please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Granting us permission to copy material already online. We just want to make sure we are respecting your intellectual property rights. Thanks, — madman 03:12, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
yesterday talk on my user page....
Hi Madman, please can you check my user page talk and that story Frantisek Binder. For last I would like to ask you for connect this story to the original Czech version on http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franti%C5%A1ek_Binder Thank you so muc for helping me out--HambergerPavel (talk) 07:54, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Chief Commissioner for Person with Disabilities
Hi, i created the page and you are correct that the source of info was the main site. I have removed excess test and revised it. I have also quoted the official wensite as external resource. Hope it helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calipergirl (talk • contribs) 13:20, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Fireball (liqueur)
Hello, Madman! Please help! We are the brand owners of Fireball, which is NOT a liqueur, but a cinnamon flavored Canadian whisky. We recently created the page "Fireball Cinnamon Whisky" and posted the correct, current information on the product, and posted a redirect on the "Fireball (liqueur)" page to the FCW page. However, we really need the "Fireball (liqueur)" page to be removed altogether. Can you do that, or let me know how I can do that? Thank you! ccharters — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccharters (talk • contribs) 18:13, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- Looking into this. I think the MadmanBot tag is a false positive, so I'm going to remove it. I don't think removing Fireball (liqueur) as a redirect is necessary. It's existed at that location for a year and a half so some people are going to be directed there, and they're going to be redirected to the correct article. Is that really a problem? I think we'll need to rename Fireball Cinnamon Whisky though; doesn't really meet our manual of style guidelines. Perhaps Fireball (whisky)? P.S.: You are the brand owners of an excellent whisky. — madman 03:10, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- If there was something wrong with the content of the "Fireball (liqueur)" article, the content of that article should have been improved instead of creating a new completely-redundant article about the same product. Moreover, User:Ccharters is an account of an employee of the company, and should not be creating articles written to promote the company's products or point of view. The product is not whisky, since whisky should not be something that contains sweeteners and flavouring. I suggest to look up the definition of whisky and the definition of liqueur and decide for yourself whether the product is whisky or a liqueur. In any case, the content issue should be discussed and resolved at Talk:Fireball (liqueur), not by creating a new article. Incidentally, here is a link to a photo of this product with the word liqueur on its own label. —BarrelProof (talk) 18:33, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- For the record, given that photo and the COI considerations of which I hadn't thought, I agree with all of the above. — madman 19:01, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- If there was something wrong with the content of the "Fireball (liqueur)" article, the content of that article should have been improved instead of creating a new completely-redundant article about the same product. Moreover, User:Ccharters is an account of an employee of the company, and should not be creating articles written to promote the company's products or point of view. The product is not whisky, since whisky should not be something that contains sweeteners and flavouring. I suggest to look up the definition of whisky and the definition of liqueur and decide for yourself whether the product is whisky or a liqueur. In any case, the content issue should be discussed and resolved at Talk:Fireball (liqueur), not by creating a new article. Incidentally, here is a link to a photo of this product with the word liqueur on its own label. —BarrelProof (talk) 18:33, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Madmanbot screwed up re Nuxalk people
See the talkpage at Talk:Nuxalk people.....the site your bot found is a wiki-clone.Skookum1 (talk) 13:24, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hell, it even says at the bottom of the native encyclopedia page in question "Source: wikipedia.org". Maybe you should program to check for "clues" like that huh? Skookum1 (talk) 13:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- At the moment I am not approved to make modifications to the bot's source; I hope to gain approval for changes, including heuristics like the one you suggest, sometime this month. In the meantime, the bot does have a list of Wikipedia mirrors that it will exclude from detection; unfortunately the Native American Encyclopedia cannot be added to this list because its articles come from a number of sources depending on the article, and not just Wikipedia. Thanks, — madman 19:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
westwood_house.html
{{User:MadmanBot/Csb-pageincludes|1=http://www.mspong.org/picturesque/westwood_house.html}}
The webpage http://www.mspong.org/picturesque/westwood_house.html (along with all the other pages under http://www.mspong.org/picturesque)
Are copied of an out of copyright publication:
- Valentine, Laura (1891), "Westwood House", picturesque England its landmarks and historic haunts, London ; New York: Frederick Warne & Co., pp. 258–260
Please amend you bot's parameters to ignore pages under http://www.mspong.org/picturesque
-- PBS (talk) 19:41, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- Done [13]. — madman 19:06, 5 May 2013 (UTC)