User talk:MSGJ/2024

Happy New Year, MSGJ!

Happy New Year!

MSGJ,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 14:34, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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Abishe (talk) 14:34, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

ho hum

thanks for finding an error, happy new year, etc. so few persons have ever queried my talk page editing in the last x years, I appreciate the attention.... JarrahTree 13:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

while we were on the subject are you aware of anything about the ORES replacement at all? The reading of meta official standard version of things seems to say it will be whatevered in the near future - however there seems to be (unless I have been reading the wrong links) little about the process of change and how it will be implemented... JarrahTree 13:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry I have no idea about ORES. Perhaps Qwerfjkl knows something? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

JarrahTree, as I understand it, ORES itself won't change, it's just how you query it that will change. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Vital articles in an unknown topic by quality

Hello, MSGJ,

Just wondering if it was okay to tag this article and its contents for CSD C1. I'm not sure what the guideline is with this reorganization on what stays and what's up for review and deletion. Thanks! And happy holidays! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:31, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Or Category:Needed-Class articles as well. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:48, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Eventually I would like to get rid of these, but I think they are still in use for now — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

@Liz please see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 4 for related CfD nominations — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:20, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Submitted Draft

Hello , MSGJ how are you ?

could you please review the draft “ Mustafa Hawash “

thanks and sorry for disturbing you . Mohawashh (talk) 01:58, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Blocked sock — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

that caused a conflict in the ratings, please choose Start-class or C-class but not both

Hi. In your revert you wrote: "that caused a conflict in the ratings, please choose Start-class or C-class but not both"

But I don't understand: what conflict? what both? Thanks. Johnjbarton (talk) 18:07, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi John. If you study your change you will see that you set |class=start in the banner shell, but |class=C in the physics project. Physics uses the standard assessment scale, so should not have a separte/different rating. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:15, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I used Rater, it seems to handle this case poorly. If the two settings are not independent, the UI shouldn't allow separate setting :-( Johnjbarton (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry I still don't understand. I looked at the markup

{{Vital article|class=Start|level=5|topic=Science|subpage=Basics}}{{talk header}}{{physics|class=start|importance=high}}

Are you saying that the two values set to "start" has always to be changed in tandem? Johnjbarton (talk) 18:59, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes, per WP:PIQA all ratings should be the same. The best way is to move the rating to the banner shell and then remove it from the separate banners (example). Then if you want to re-assess the article you only need to change it in one place — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix. I'll try to remember this tip. Johnjbarton (talk) 02:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok I'm trying to learn this system, but I've not gotten it yet.

On Talk:Equivalence principle I updated the WPBS to have class setting, then applied Rater. The result was duplicate lines and a red conflicty thing. I reverted the Rater change.

Should I avoid the Rater change feature? Something else?

The other puzzle is that the WPBS on that page and others has "1=" but it not discussed on Template:WikiProjectBannerShell. Or class= for that matter :-( Any hints? Johnjbarton (talk) 02:44, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi John, yes I believe there are still a few issues with Rater. You may wish to review/comment at User talk:Evad37/rater.js#Move article quality rating into banner shell. The |1= is not required but will not affect the behaviour of the template. |class= is mentioned, but if you can improve the documentation at Template:WikiProject banner shell/doc then please do so! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Fixed mistake

Hi MSGJ, thank you for correcting my mistake in assessment of the Croatia at the 2017 World Aquatics Championships article. To answer your question in the edit summary, I rated it as stub class due to it's information being 7 years out of date and there not being much content, however upon re-reading the assessment criteria (I am quite new to this), I understand that the article has the requirements for a start class article, and I should have assessed it as start class to remain consistent with the previous assessment. It is a wonderful world (talk) 18:59, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

No worries. Happy new year to you! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, you too :) It is a wonderful world (talk) 20:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For all your work with the project banner shell! Kj cheetham (talk) 13:01, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks - much appreciated! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:37, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Newbie

probably the wrong place to ask - but how to start editing? GillyMR (talk) 08:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi GillyMR, a good place to start might be The Wikipedia Adventure. What type of articles are you interested in? Let me know if I can help with anything. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

thank you. I'm thinking of starting with basic editing (typo's etc) to begin with. Interests are textiles, horses, food... GillyMR (talk) 14:29, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

My mistake on Talk:Ding Hao

Really sorry for my mistake, and thanks for helping correct it! Would you suggest Start for this article? It seems quite marginal, and no sections with prose, but content seems sufficient. If yes, please help me remove the stub tag too. Sorry for my inability to judge the assessment! Timothytyy (talk) 12:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

It's borderline but I think it has moved past Stub. There is more than the minimum amount of content and it seems to be well referenced, so Start looks appropriate to me. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:13, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Noted with thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 22:45, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

"Harmonize ratings"

Please STOP doing this. The whole point of the ratings system is to allow different ratings, for importance but also for quality, for different projects. Otherwise there would be no need for each project to have the space for different ratings, would there? Johnbod (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Please see WP:PIQA — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Special:Diff/1194374738

Is is this an issue? I can fix the class so that it's moved correctly, but it wouldn't be as easy to keep the invisible comment. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Obviously the class is needed. I personally would not have an issue with the invisible comment, but other editors may prefer you to keep them in — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Looks like it's working in Special:Diff/1194701333 — Qwerfjkltalk 08:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

I got excited when I saw you were already on "4". But then I saw the "." ! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:57, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

While I was looking through the bot's edits, I saw Talk:.41 Swiss. This seems to have conflicting classes, but it's not in Category:Articles with conflicting quality ratings. Any idea why? — Qwerfjkltalk 09:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

I created a category to track these (Category:Articles using WikiProject banner shell with empty class parameter) but it's not working yet. Basically it needs to look when the class parameter is empty and then check the rest of the page to see if class is defined in some other banner. I'll try and get that fixed soon. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

I think I have fixed this in the sandbox. To be clear, the class is not tracked as conflicting unless the PIQA class is actually defined and conflicts with one of the project ratings. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:10, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject Linguistics and Template:Etymology section

Do you think Template:WikiProject Linguistics and Template:Etymology section should be merged? There are currently 8 pages that have both templates.

On a related note, it's strange that Template:Etymology section isn't placed in Category:WikiProject banners with non-standard names or that those pages aren't in Category:Pages using WikiProject banner shell with duplicate banner templates. Gonnym (talk) 08:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For almost single-handedly maintaining and improving Template:WPBS and Module:Banner shell, and being the main force behind the recent improvements to the assessment system. – Hilst [talk] 11:58, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks for this, always appreciate shiny things! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

+1. Couldn't agree more. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:04, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your contribution! Kanashimi (talk) 22:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Tracking categories for articles that require performing WP:PIQA

Is it possible for us to create categories to track articles that need to perform WP:PIQA containing the following types?

• Called Module:WikiProject banner but does not contain {{WPBS}}.
• Contains {{WPBS}} but sets the same class as {{WPBS}}.
• Other types?

Kanashimi (talk) 21:59, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes of course. I will copy your message to Template talk:WikiProject banner shell if you don't mind — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:26, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Sure. Kanashimi (talk) 23:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

|blpo=

How should my bot handle this? See e.g. Special:Diff/1195670166 for how it handles it currently. For now I've modified the code so that it won't modify blp/living if blpo is present, to avoid conflicts. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Well blp and blpo are not both required, but I'm not sure which one should take precedence — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm just going to leave blpo alone for now. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Template:Script doc auto

Hi, I'm thinking of adding some features to to {{Script doc auto}}, eg. showing a note above gadget js pages to indicate which gadget the page belongs to, how many users the gadget has, etc. However, this is full-protected and is also listed on Wikipedia:Cascade-protected items. Wondering if you can lower the protection to TPE? It is used on the interface (MediaWiki:Clearyourcache), but only on top of script pages, so not sure if it counts as widely seen. – SD0001 (talk) 14:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I think if it's in the interface then it's supposed to be fully-protected. But if you ping me when ready I can copy changes across? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I've requested the edits at Template_talk:Script_doc_auto#Protected_edit_request_on_26_January_2024 and MediaWiki_talk:Clearyourcache#Protected_edit_request_on_26_January_2024. – SD0001 (talk) 09:32, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

About Inactive WikiProject banners

What should we do with Inactive WikiProject banners? To remove or? Kanashimi (talk) 05:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Last time it was discussed, consensus was to leave them in place — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:11, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Assistance with a new wikiproject

With all your expertise, Martin, you might be able help out with the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronic literature. Those who have created the project do not have very much experience with Wikipedia but would like to provide a sound basis for future expansion. As you can see from the project's talk page, there are two items which require attention:

• The automatically created Category:Unknown-importance Electronic literature articles and Category:NA-importance Electronic literature articles need to be populated.
• It would be useful to introduce automatic stats on article quality assessment (i.e. without importance) along the lines of WP Women or WP Norway.

Maybe creating facilities for quality assessment will resolve the category problems and also article alerts. I could try to work on this myself but would like to avoid any unintentional side effects. As up now there are only about 200 articles in the project, it should be easy to cover their quality assessment, in particular by including Class ratings in the banner shell environment. It would really be appreciated if you could help us out with these developments. But just let me know if you are tied up with other priorities.--Ipigott (talk) 10:29, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Visual Display of Quantitative Information Barnstar
	With appreciation and thanks, this barnstar for creating sortable, yearly tables for Women in Red's editathons is for you Martin. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Module:Pagetype

FYI, after your changes to Module:Pagetype, we are now getting transclusions of missing sandbox and testcases pages like this one when someone makes an edit request. Probably not a huge deal since these requests should not be permanent, but I thought I would let you know. I fixed a larger problem here by simply flipping the logic of the "ifexist" and "is redirect" checks. Some other ones that just popped up that may be related are here and here which I think are caused by the banners on the archive pages. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I see the same thing with a new transclusion of Template:Anchor/Archive index that wasn't there before. seems related. Frietjes (talk) 16:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I think you check for title.exists first? Frietjes (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Does an exists check also cause a transclusion to be recorded? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:39, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

no, at least when I tested it this version and tested here. Frietjes (talk) 16:46, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Okay, should be an easy fix then — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I added an exists check at Module:Pagetype/sandbox#L-115 but according to my tests, it is still transcluding the subject page when it doesn't exist — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I moved the check up, before the namespace and subpageText tests and that seems to work. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I think my version did work actually - my sandbox still shows a link but not a transclusion, so I think this should be okay — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, seems fine. I added that to the main module. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda. Appreciate the thought — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:05, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Template:WIR/core

Is Template:WIR/core still needed? It's not linked to from anywhere. Gonnym (talk) 08:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Nope - not used by the new version — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:59, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for checking though — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Women articles with WPBS quality conflicts

I believe that some time ago, Martin, you asked me to help with women articles presenting conflicts. I believe there was a category on which this was based but all I could find was Category:Articles with conflicting quality ratings with over 20,000 entries. Can you help?--Ipigott (talk) 09:48, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

At the moment, there is no way of breaking these down into different projects. (I don't think I recall what I asked you.) But that sounds like a good idea, for those projects that wish to help out. I will explore further and update with any progress. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

It works very well for NPP, see User:SDZeroBot/NPP sorting/Culture/Biography/Women. Maybe your original request came so early on that it was possible to go through the list simply looking for women's names. I would certainly be happy to work on any conflicts associated with WP Women or WP Women's History.--Ipigott (talk) 15:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Ipigott, you could try something like this PetScan query which uses category intersection with WikiProject Women in Red (feel free to swap out Women in Red for any other appropriate wikiproject), or this PetScan query which uses the wikidata property female (Q6581072). — Qwerfjkltalk 16:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately Special:Search/incategory:"Articles with conflicting quality ratings" articletopic:women doesn't seem to work. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

The PetScan query works brilliantly, thanks Qwerjkl. It might be worth asking all active projects to have a look through these. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:26, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Happy New Year, MSGJ!

Happy New Year!

MSGJ,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
 — Amakuru (talk) 15:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Good evening!

A notification popped up saying that You reviewed my draft: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Rolf_Laven

But it remains a draft; is there any way for You to confirm it? It is urgent, since Rolf Laven is nominated for an international award, which is why an English-wikipedia-version is urgently needed.

Thank you in advance! Abendtau (talk) 17:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

 — Amakuru (talk) 15:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks and best wishes to you also @Amakuru — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:14, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Eidercurly (21:13, 11 February 2024)

Hi there, I had submitted a draft page (Ben Chu - journalist and author) which had gone through two rounds of editing and it has disappeared from my account whilst I was waiting for feedback on it. Any ideas where it might have gone? --Eidercurly (talk) 21:13, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@Eidercurly: it's still at Draft:Ben Chu, if you want to continue working on it — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Ah, thank you! New to this... Eidercurly (talk) 21:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Happy 20th account birthday!

Hi, happy birthday to your 20-year-old user account! Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:22, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Tumbleweed Spirits (02:02, 10 February 2024)

Hi Martin :

I was going through the list of distillers in canada and didnt see our name there so wanted to edit to add our distillery and information as a first time user

Mike --Tumbleweed Spirits (talk) 02:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

I found List of breweries, wineries, and distilleries in Manitoba but not sure which article you are referring to. Are you considering writing an article, or just adding an entry to an existing list? In general, we request that editors do not edit in areas where they have a conflict of interest, but there are processes you can use such as WP:AFC. Also, just a word of warning that your username may fall foul of our policy that says all accounts must be for individuals not companies or organisations — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:22, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from TysWorld (19:35, 12 February 2024)

How Can I Expand --TysWorld (talk) 19:35, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

What do you want to expand? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Etymology Task Force

Hi, I opted out Template:Etymology section of WP:PIQA since it only uses classes like |class=Incomplete but I don't know how the /class page would go since the categories are in the format 'Articles with (class) etymologies'. Can you have a look please. Thanks! -- Nintendofan885^{T&Cs apply} 12:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry I have no idea what to do with that template. We could ask @Mr. Stradivarius or try posting on Module talk:WikiProject banner — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Can I ask if the template was not working correctly in its previous state, and what you were trying to achieve? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

It was working but I noticed Cewbot was migrating them to the banner shell if it counted as the majority rating e.g. Special:Diff/1204347786, Special:Diff/1204913218 and Special:Diff/1205131265 that I fixed. --Nintendofan885^{T&Cs apply} 22:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Ah yes, that is a problem. I will alert Cewbot's operator @Kanashimi about this — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I fixed this problem on February 11th, please let me know if it occurs again, thank you. Kanashimi (talk) 00:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

WiR

While I was only tangentially involved with the WiR TfD, I am glad to see that you have been able to find a solution that will hopefully make everyone happy. Primefac (talk) 08:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Not really! We have made a little progress but no real consensus on the main issue of merging banners. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:11, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

I see you recently added {{WIR}} → {{WikiProject Women in Red}} to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Template redirects, which was reverted because the rules on that page don't work on talk pages. Presuming there is consensus to add the template to {{WPBS}}, then you could add a rule to User:Magioladitis/WikiProjects, which is a great custom module to use when editing talk pages. GoingBatty (talk) 02:56, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I hadn't noticed the revert. I will look at that page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:34, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Re: Soft redirects

Sorry if I am rushing you and you had a plan to do this, but is making soft redirects assess as redirect technically feasible or nah? I wasn't sure from the conversation. I really hope it is because it is real annoying to run into these when trying to review unassessed ones. PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't done this yet, but I haven't forgotten. I think I need to modify Module:Class mask to use the new pagetype module — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from DerekMuttley (21:13, 22 February 2024)

Hello there,

I'm wanting to make a page for "Tales of the Borders' and have made a start. It's at Draft:Wilson's Tales of the Borders.

I am a trustee of the Wilsons Tale Project, and whilst Wilson has a page, as have some other editors, there is no page dealing with the actual publication. A couple of questions is my draft suitable for publishing? The Project has more information about editions, printers, content and so forth. Much is not available online, for we have become 'the source' for these things by dint of the research. I take it that it will be acceptable to quote the WTP site and material as a reference.

Any help, comments, critique and such would be good. I/we will move on to the existing page about Wilson once the editing shoes have been made to fit. A few clips from his autobiography could shed much light on the man. --DerekMuttley (talk) 21:13, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi Derek. Not yet ready for publishing. The main thing missing is to give references which show it has received significant coverage from multiple third-party reliable sources. Please see WP:GNG for more details. Also, a bit more structure to the article (e.g. sections, infobox) would improve it. Good luck — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:48, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red

Hi there, Martin, and welcome to Women in Red. After all the time you've spent trying to improve our meetup records, displays, etc., in the BS environment it's certainly about time you became a member. You might also like to add your name to our Technical support page, describing which areas you can help with. It would also be useful if you could add the WIR user box to your MSGJ/User page which will ensure you are listed under Category:WikiProject Women in Red participants. We look forward to your continuing participation, including discussions on our talk pages. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 10:17, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm guessing BS="backstage" rather than the profanity :) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Banner Shell!!!--Ipigott (talk) 11:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Ah — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:27, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

• I see you have still not included you name and area(s) of expertise on Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Tools and technical support. I am thinking of providing a link to this page in our next invitation. It would therefore be useful to have you included. You might have other ideas on how the page could be improved.--Ipigott (talk) 10:59, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Dancbmac (08:03, 24 February 2024)

Hello Martin, I am a newby and was wanting to add my name with 2 citations supporting my information on the “List of recipients of the Legion of Merit” Wiki page. One citation is the National Archives Database and the other is “military times Hall of Valor” I haven’t attempted editing yet as I saw on my page to contact my mentor first. Thanks, Dan McKinnon --Dancbmac (talk) 08:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi Dan. A couple of points:

1. You will notice from that page, that every person who has an entry (apart from a couple of instances which probably shouldn't be there) already has an article on Wikipedia. When we say "The following are notable recipients within the award" the word "notable" means that they have been shown to meet the general notability guideline, which the vast majority of people in the world do not.
2. In general we ask people not to make edits when they have a conflict of interest. Instead you can make a request on the article's talk page, using the template {{Edit COI}}

Let me know if you have questions — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red March 2024

Women in Red | March 2024, Volume 10, Issue 3, Numbers 293, 294, 299, 300, 301 Online events: New: Alphabet run Q & R | Art+Feminism | Find Her Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) Announcements Celebrate Women – All content gender gap events, in every language Wikipedia, in March 2024 Francophone Women★ Writers Fortnight 2024 Feminism and Folklore 2024 Writing Contest Tip of the month: When creating a new article, check various spellings, including birth name, married names and pseudonyms, to be sure an article doesn't already exist. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Lajmmoore (talk 20:23, 25 February 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Question from Seacorals (17:33, 29 February 2024)

Hi, I think I might have publicly published my sandbox by accident. I only meant it to be a draft. Or am I the only one who can see it? --Seacorals (talk) 17:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

It's at User:Seacorals/sandbox - not published yet! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:36, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Re: Jacqueline Becerra

Where is the rating conflict and what does it conflict with? Cause I'm not seeing it Snickers2686 (talk) 15:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

This is the state you left it in — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Magnificent451 (20:02, 2 March 2024)

Hi, how do I edit an article and it's headings? Every time I try to edit an article, it just shows the introduction with no headings --Magnificent451 (talk) 20:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, not sure what's going wrong for you. Which article were you trying to edit? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Magnificent451: You may be clicking on the "edit" link for the first section of the page instead of the "edit" link for the entire article. Look for an "edit" link that is a bit lower on the page. It might say "Edit source". – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Oh, got it! Magnificent451 (talk) 13:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

WIR navigation problem

I have just noticed that the navigation buttons at the top of each event page are no longer operable and hope you will be able to fix them. For example, see #1day1woman. Oronsay (talk) 19:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Oh wow, that is bad. Let me see what's happened ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Caused by an edit to Template:Clickable button which I have reverted. Thanks for letting me know — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:04, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

All good now. Thanks so much for your prompt action. Oronsay (talk) 22:04, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Translated template inside or outside banner shell?

In reviewing the talk page of Signe Barth, I've just noticed you moved the translated template outside the banner shell. I have consistently completed it inside the shell as it then displays "large" and can be seen more easily than the little box tucked away on the lower right. I've now added "small=n" which actually produces unnecessary additional text but displays correctly for me, even when it is outside the shell. If there are strict rules about this in regard to the banner shell, it would be useful to know where to find them. I would actually prefer to be allowed to include the simple translated template inside the shell. In fact it seems to be an additional extra provided the edit comment on the article's creation refers to the "translation" but I find it useful and recommend it to others. See Help:Translation.--Ipigott (talk) 13:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

My understand is that {{WikiProject banner shell}} is only for WikiProject banners. Other banners can be put inside {{banner holder}} but this is only generally used when there are an extreme number of banners. In this case, it is better outside of any shellk I think. I agree that the |small=no version looks better though. I may suggest that becomes the default — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:08, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

There must already be some mechanism which produces the large text version if the template is inside the banner shell. It is particularly useful when the template has been placed at the top of the page rather than below the wikiproject templates. As it works fine, why can't it simply be permitted? You always seem interested in saving space on talk pages. The best solution would therefore be to facilitate the large text without the unnecessary "Consult the history of the original page to see a list of its authors."--Ipigott (talk) 12:24, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Wear bridges

Elvet Bridge, Durham

Thanks, Martin, for your wonderful expansion of List of crossings of the River Wear. Quite an achievement. Many of the photographs bring back fond memories of my early years in that part of the world. I see there's scope for List of crossings of the River Tyne which is sadly still missing. All I've done myself along these lines is List of castles in Luxembourg - which could probably benefit from a degree of updating. I see nevertheless that it gets almost 30 page views a day---Ipigott (talk) 15:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. We do have a list of crossings at River Tyne#River_crossings but it is lacking detail and photographs, so perhaps I will create List of crossings of the River Tyne one day. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed the summary coverage in the River Tyne article but it's no comparison to your Wear listings. I really hope you can soon find time to start on the Tyne. As we now have detailed lists on both the Wear and the Tees, it would be a pity if we could not provide a similar list for the Tyne. Maybe Cakelot1 could also help.--Ipigott (talk) 13:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's a start: Draft:List of crossings of the River Tyne — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Amazing! Isn't this sort of thing more fun than banner shell development?--Ipigott (talk) 12:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kittycatyes on User talk:Kittycatyes (02:55, 7 March 2024)

hello --Kittycatyes (talk) 02:55, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Kittycatyes, how are you? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:37, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

draft instructions

Hi Martin, I am working on the draft instructions for creating events for WiR Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Ideas#Checklist for updates of virtual meetups. I won't be able to actually see if they work until March 20. Meanwhile, if you see any egregious errors (or just plain weird wording), please feel free to edit. You can see it is written by an non-coder for non-coders. Thanks. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:34, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Okay I'll take a look — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:37, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

I made a few suggestions and I will check back later. By the way I have been playing around with the buttons and adding some color. What do you think?

Recently completed:	Women in STEM Geofocus: Islands I–P Women in archaeology
November 2024:	Asian women Geofocus: Islands Q–Z Women in engineering
Ongoing initiatives:	#1day1woman Education
Upcoming events:	Women who died: 2024 Religion Ideas

— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:25, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Yikes (egregious errors on my part) and thanks. I can't believe I missed a step as well! --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:04, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

The colors are fun :) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:04, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Midewrights (10:55, 9 March 2024)

Good morning mentor ,please how do I go about editing,I just created my account today --Midewrights (talk) 10:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi. You could read Help:Editing or just find an article that you think could be improved and have a go! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:21, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Protection log of Template:Not-PD-US-expired-min-year

After Special:Diff/1214378056, Template:Not-PD-US-expired-min-year is no longer "used" on MediaWiki:Licenses. To clarify: I don't know how UI for editing the protection settings works – I'm interested in removing the misleading line "used on MediaWiki:Licenses" from the top of the protection log. Would you mind reverting/adjusting/whatever the Special:Diff/1214370597? —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:57, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

I've put it back down to template protection. Thanks for the note — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:24, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Jaquezux (12:31, 21 March 2024)

Hi Martin! Hope you are doing fine! I just translated the Little Nightmares III page into Portuguese, but I can't publish it due to "linking to Youtube", but I'm not mentioning any links to youtube (or other external website) in my translation. Could you help me, please? --Jaquezux (talk) 12:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

This may be an issue with the edit filter on the Portuguese Wikipedia. I see the "youtube" is mentioned in the article, so perhaps that is triggering an edit filter. I suggest you take note of the message displayed when you try to make the edit, and then post at pt:Ajuda:Tire suas dúvidas for assistance there — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:38, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Actually there was a reference to YouTube, which I have just removed. Perhaps you can try the same with your translation — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Nadimxxxkhan on Help:Introduction to editing with VisualEditor/3 (13:25, 27 March 2024)

বাংলাদেশ আমার।।। আমা দেশ আমার অহংকার। --Nadimxxxkhan (talk) 13:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Review

Hi User:MSGJ please could you see and review this Talk:Sargun Mehta#Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2024 2A02:6B68:10:6100:E164:852D:278F:5DC7 (talk) 19:44, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red April 2024

Women in Red | April 2024, Volume 10, Issue 4, Numbers 293, 294, 302, 303, 304 Online events: New: Alphabet run S & T | Gender studies | Health Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) Announcements The second round of "One biography a week" begins in April as part of #1day1woman. Tip of the month: If you run into technical problems, you might find help on our Tools and technical support page Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Lajmmoore (talk 19:42, 30 March 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Question from PhilippTeslyuk (02:19, 7 April 2024)

how to create a article --PhilippTeslyuk (talk) 02:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red Events page

I realize, MSGJ, that the long list of previous events on the WIR Events page is intended to facilitate searching. But as this page is transcluded on the main WIR page, it makes it difficult to see the sections which follow. I suggest you introduce a show/hide option, defaulting to hide. (It might also be useful to introduce a columns display to save horizontal space.) I would have edited the page myself but am not sufficiently familiar with the approach you have developed. If there is an easy way to undertake edits along these lines, it would be good to know how they can be made. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 08:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

I didn't realise that was transcluded on the main project page. I totally agree it is too much to include the whole list there. How about we just list the current, recent and upcoming events there, and leave the whole list at /Events. Please check my recent changes? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:44, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hall also changed it to use a level 3 header instead of level 2, so it fits better on the page now — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the improvement on the main WiR page. We can now see the other items much more easily. I've looked at the changes you made on Module:Women in Red event/sandbox but would never have been able to make them myself. I really think it's important for us to be able to make changes ourselves. One of these days you might no longer be available and then we would have to find some other expert to take over. As part experience shows, it's not always easy to do so. As for the display on the Events page, I still think it would be useful to use columns as we do on many WIR pages which include long lists. I also think that for completed years, it would be preferable to run from January to December rather than from December to January. It might also be useful to display the events for the past full year (now 2023) but offer a show/hide option for the remainder. That kind of display may be more in line with what other WIR participants would like to see.--Ipigott (talk) 08:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

• The sandbox is just where I play around. The live code is at Module:Women in Red event.
• I kind of see where you're coming from, but that would be a reason not to do anything technical, which would be a big loss for the project. While I am planning to stop developing the code further shortly, I will be around indefinitely to maintain it.
• Yes columns might work well. I'll have a play around with that.
• Not sure about Jan-Dec if we are sorting reverse chronological. Then you would have Dec 2023 next to Jan 2022, which is not logical as they differ by nearly two years?
• Do you mean a show/hide for each year (like we had on the navigation template for a short time)? I can have a look into that. Or if you mean a general show/hide for all the other years, I can't really see the benefit on the /Events page because people can just scroll down as far as they wish.

— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks, MSGJ, for these comments and explanations. I don't think we are in danger of never doing anything technical. Just look at all those Wikidata-based redlink pages which have proved so popular. I was in fact one of the first to develop them but gave up when more technically competent experts came along. If necessary, I could certainly still create/edit them. The logic is not too difficult to follow. As for your being around "indefinitely", we initially had the same impression with our Project X experts Harej and Isarra but they gradually lost interest and become involved in more exciting innovations. We ran into all kinds of difficulties, perhaps the most important being our inability to maintain our membership lists. As a result we implemented a new, fully accessible approach which seems to be working quite well. As for the show/hide options, they have proved useful in our old navigation template. Now that the Events page is apparently no longer transcluded, it might be interesting to add new sections covering most successful meeetups, contests, events repeated year by year, etc. If so, it would be useful to have a general show/hide option for everything except the past year. (But are we in fact still able to add new sections to the Events page without your help?) So you now have my stand on these matters. Rosiestep might also like to comment on them.--Ipigott (talk) 10:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Shaheralis (17:01, 14 April 2024)

Hello --Shaheralis (talk) 17:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

i have one profile to edit as there are may information in it which was wrong or not cited. The profile belong to someone in the government and not so sure how i should access and edit and change. Please advise . --Shaheralis (talk) 17:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

@Shaheralis If you can tell me the name of the article you are looking at, I may be able to give some suggestions — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Hissa Abdulla Ahmed Al-Otaiba, this profile need to be updated and edited. Would appreciate it if you can assist. Shaheralis (talk) 09:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

You can do this yourself if you press the "edit" button at the top of the article. What needs to be updated? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

As this will be the first time to do and due to the sensitivity concerns. I may need some assistance. Shall i provide you with the areas that are needed to be edited ? thanks Shaheralis (talk) 09:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

I've created a copy in your userspace at User:Shaheralis/Hissa Abdulla Ahmed Al-Otaiba so you can practise on there first — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks a lot MSGJ! Appreciate it. Should keep you updated if any. Many Thanks ! Shaheralis (talk) 12:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from AdamAlmahdi (17:31, 18 April 2024)

Hello, how to create an article page for my business company ? --AdamAlmahdi (talk) 17:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Please do NOT write about any subject in which you have a conflict of interest. See WP:COI — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Questions from CandyCola4444

I know how to create a citation i have some of experience i submitted an draft with citations but it got declined by saying the provide the source wherre he meet general bruh this is Indian history not roman or german and Sushtavarman was a king not general now what i have to do pls tell me --CandyCola4444 (talk) 01:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I assume we are talking about Draft:Gauda conquest of Kamarup? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

I've put some suggestions for you on the talk page Draft talk:Gauda conquest of Kamarup — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

yes give me suggestions CandyCola4444 (talk) 10:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes. CandyCola4444 (talk) 10:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

How do can i upload a draft to article instantly? --CandyCola4444 (talk) 09:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

A reviewer is trying to delete my articles from mainspace for no reason i already have provided all the sources he asked for --CandyCola4444 (talk) 14:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@CandyCola4444 I have moved all your questions to one section, so we can discuss here in one place — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

You are not allowed to remove the deletion notice from the articles. Instead go to the deletion discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pala invasion of Kannauj and write why you think the articles should not be deleted. It would help if you can find any more sources which cover these events. They look notable, but without significant coverage in multiple sources, they won't be allowed to stay — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Possible WikiProject banner optimization

Hey, I was looking at Template:WikiProject Television and was wondering if the module can be updated to handle the code with less boilerplate code being written. So for example, a standard task force there is written like this:

  |TF_3_LINK            = Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/The Amazing Race task force
  |TF_3_NAME            = the Amazing Race task force
  |TF_3_NESTED          = The Amazing Race

I wonder if we can do something like this

|TF_style = task force
|TF_1 = The Amazing Race
|TF_2 = The Apprentice UK

and the LINK and NAME will be handled by the module automatically as it knows the style "task force" and it knows the NESTED name. If a specific task force needs to have a different value, then they can override TF_style with the same current style. This could also potentially work with ASSESSMENT_CAT and MAIN_CAT values.

Another item that can have the same treatment is the image size. Most of the images in this template use "x20px", so instead of repeatedly adding this value, we can use TF_SIZE = x20px and for any image that needs to override it they can specify a different value.

What do you think? Gonnym (talk) 07:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, good idea. We already have |TF_SIZE= (which is documented) and |TF_TEXT= (which is not yet documented!) which is possibly along the same lines you were thinking and recognises _NAME_, _LINK_ and _IMPORTANCE_. For example, you can define |TF_TEXT=This _PAGETYPE_ is supported by the [[_LINK_|_NAME_]] task force and assessed as _IMPORTANCE_-importance. Let's discuss further at the module talk page? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Oh nice. I'll check those out and sure. Gonnym (talk) 08:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Kilduin

My article is for the battle on Kilduin, please do not make it about the ship. The ship should get its own article. Dencoolast33 (talk) 14:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Please feel free to revert any of my changes, they are only suggestions. I don't think there will be enough materials for two different articles so if we are to have one article, then it made sense to me that it should be at Kilduin rather than the battle it was involved in — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! you do have a point, ill take that into consideration when making changes to the article, but there is very little information about the ship except for that battle. Dencoolast33 (talk) 14:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I'm starting to realise that! There is sv:Kilduin (1788) but most of the content relates to the battle — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Auto doc

Curious as to how come template documentation is going to auto doc, which can only be edited by admins and TEs? Now there are two open edit requests to edit the documentation. Shouldn't the documentation continue to be editable by non-TEs? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 06:13, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I suspect you are talking about documentation for Module:WikiProject banner? This is produced by Module:WikiProject banner/templatepage which is only semi-protected, so any editor should feel free to edit and improve — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, but Martin, most editors won't have a clue about editing a "module". Most barely know how to edit the unprotected /doc pages of a template. Why make it harder or even impossible for them? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 22:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

The only way to achieve autodoc is by using a module, so I don't know what the alternative is? Of course it is possible to not use the autodoc, and create documentation in the usual way. the advantage of creating it automatically is that is doesn't need to be maintained and will update when features are added/removed. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Forgive me Martin because I still haven't wrapped myself around this. The |DOC=auto parameter and argument makes it so that the documentation cannot be edited by any user and must be edited by TEs and admins. That seems to go counter to one of the main reasons for having a separate /doc page, doesn't it? I think it makes sense for these project banner templates to be protected, but what exactly is achieved by taking the ability to edit documentation away from all users?

In addition, I looked at the Module:WikiProject banner/templatepage, where the requested edit at Template talk:WikiProject Hinduism#Template-protected edit request on 15 March 2024 seems to require that module to be edited. I found where the section is – line 574, which starts the "Full usage" section, to line 597, which starts "Parameters" section – somewhere in the code between those lines appears to be where we can remove the redundant |importance= parameters (there are a total of five redundant (six total) instances of that parameter in the Full usage section of the {{WikiProject Hinduism}} project banner's documentation). My grasp of Lua is very basic and I don't have a clue how to do it. That takes us back to why on Earth would we make it so that all users cannot edit the documentation? and then leave it to only editors who have a good grasp of Lua? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 02:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I think the auto doc function is useful for project banners where no one has bothered to write any custom documentation. It can still be customised by removing |DOC=auto and writing your own instructions, if anyone wishes to. As explained above, it is not restricted to admins or TEs at all - the module is only semi-protected. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the issue of the duplicated importance parameters. This is because the hinduism template uses the same |importance= parameter for 6 different purposes (general importance and five separate task force importances) so the module is getting confused. I should be able to sort that by checking that each parameter has not already been displayed. Leave it with me. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:52, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth I think I've fixed this now, please let me know if you have any other suggestions for improvement — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, Martin! I think it's great that you were able to fix that challenging issue of the |importance= parameter. I still hope it says something to you about how difficult it would be for other editors who, unlike you, are not well-versed in Lua and who wouldn't dream of tackling such a problem no matter how much nor how little protection the module has. Sorry Martin, so sorry, but I still think that it should at least be made easier for editors, not more difficult, to get to where an edit needs to be made, and that should come with explicit instructions in each and every instance of auto-documentation. And the removal of redundant instances of a parameter should be a whole lot easier, in my humble and sorry opinion. Best to you! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 18:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from ZETTV INTERNATIONAL (10:40, 24 April 2024)

How can you add you COMPENIES information to wikipidia --ZETTV INTERNATIONAL (talk) 10:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

No thank you, we do not want an article about your company or a company that you work for — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Issue on Module:WikiProject banner/sandbox

Hello, I think one of your edits to Module:WikiProject banner/sandbox created a table error which is reflecting on a few dozen pages, but I'm not seeing the issue, and not familiar with Module's code. Would you take a look and see if something pops out to you for this? Thanks, Zinnober9 (talk) 00:44, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Will check, thanks for reporting! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from BeacHal1 (09:35, 25 April 2024)

I’ve just had a note about vandalising wiki!!! How exactly have I vandalised anything? I would say the ‘editors’ that objected to the factual info I put up yesterday didn’t in fact edit they just removed my edit completely - which seems more like vandalism to me. I was accused of being paid which I wasn’t. This gallery is a non commercial space that needs help and doesn’t have big marketing teams behind it as most galleries do. I am amazed wiki allows for those publicity rife spaces which do have paid marketing teams etc etc and is going after someone trying to do good instead… It’s a bit depressing, frankly, as I was trying to flesh out the wiki site with people and places that are much more ethical environments --BeacHal1 (talk) 09:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Wenyunlu (03:55, 25 April 2024)

Hi Martin.

After editing a page, on the relevant source, it shows "Cited by user Wenyunlu on 25 Apr 2024" - how I remove this user information?

Thank you

Wenyun --Wenyunlu (talk) 03:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Wenyunlu on which page are you seeing this? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Martin.

I added one reference (ref 26) to this wiki page:

https://wiki.riteme.site/?curid=11789595

And then when I reach the webpage for that journal article and under "Altmertric", https://acs.altmetric.com/details/154699554/wikipedia

It shows information like this:

"MALDI imaging

Cited by user Wenyunlu on 25 Apr 2024

..."

My question is how to hide that "Cited by user Wenyunlu.." so that my username don't show up.

Thank you.

Wenyun Wenyunlu (talk) 13:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

I have no idea. That is produced by that website, and I don't think we have any control over that whatsoever — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red May 2024

Women in Red | May 2024, Volume 10, Issue 5, Numbers 293, 294, 305, 306, 307 Online events: New: Press women | Alphabet run U, V & W | Central and Eastern Europe Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) Announcements from other communities Wikimedia CEE Spring 2024 - contest with certificates of participation and prizes The Wikipedia Library: #1Lib1Ref - May 15th to June 5th Tip of the month: Use open-access references wherever possible, but a paywalled reliable source is better than none, particularly for biographies of living people. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

--Lajmmoore (talk 06:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

WPBannerMeta/hooks/taskforces/taskforce

Hi, now that you deleted Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/taskforces/taskforce, could you change the default for |TASKFORCE_TEMPLATE= in Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/taskforces and Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/taskforces/core? Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 13:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

What do you suggest I change it to? This is old deprecated code and no one should be using it for any future projects. I hope to remove all uses eventually — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I changed it to an error message. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 13:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Thande P (18:53, 29 April 2024)

Hello, which article do you suggest I start with? --Thande P (talk) 18:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi there, what topics interest you? Do you have any expertise in a particular area? All subjects are covered, so you need to narrow it down a bit! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

curious

is there an ur document, source of where and how the whole banner shell thing came about? As a long term talk page tagger I find it hard to explain to people why and how the enthusiasm rose. I have been a rater user since it started (I think) and along with a few other issues with talk pages and the very weird array of projects that wikipedia has to offer, I think I might have missed the point where this industry came from. Any clues or links would be appreciated, thanks. JarrahTree 04:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Do you mean when the banner shell was first developed? Or are you referring to the recent change (WP:PIQA) where the banner shell is used to rate articles? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

The latter... JarrahTree 09:18, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Please see WP:PIQA and follow the link to the village pump proposal — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Intriguing, such coy and quiet beginnings to a wikipedia wide change, the humility is very hard to believe, and not a single extended talk page project tagging editor in sight in the whole discussion. Thanks for the link, there is insufficient broader explanation as to what is/has been going on, and I think for that, you folks (the industry) are your own detriment. There should have been a write up somewhere, as it affects the whole project. In view of the usual wikipedia wide things that get signpost or wider explanations, I think the a decided lack of publicity across the project is a major fault, regardless of the otherwise positive net benefit. JarrahTree 01:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Questions from BHelenaGG

Hi, I have created a draft Wiki Bio of Rachel Frances Alexander. But when I go to upload it for checking this is the message I receive:

No stashed content found for 0/0490841c-fd6a-11ee-911a-79a5389a15b9 Can you let me know what I should do? Thanks --BHelenaGG (talk) 10:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@BHelenaGG I have no idea! Where are you uploading it to? Can I suggest you try to create Draft:Rachel Frances Alexander with your content? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I think I have moved the article I created on Rachel Frances Alexander from my sandbox to be checked by other reviewers, but I am not sure. Can you see if it is pending checks? I am a new user so I know it wouldn't just upload direclty. Many thanks for your help. --BHelenaGG (talk) 08:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I can see User:BHelenaGG/sandbox but this is not yet submitted for review. I can do that for you, if you wish? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:45, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

I have published your article and made a few minor adjustments. Nice work! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:TemplateWikiProject Australian Transport

Hello, MSGJ,

I saw that this "draft" was due for CSD G13 deletion next week but it doesn't look like a draft at all but like a talk page for some other page. You were the last editor to edit the page so I thought I'd ask if this page should be moved elsewhere. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

I think it's a draft version of a template. Probably safe to delete — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Rating

Hi @MSGJ, Thanks for that correction. It seems to be the second time or more than, I guess. Can you help me explain it well. Do you mean it isn't necessary adding it to the others when it already exist in the main shell. Regards! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, yes that is correct. Thanks! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

You know mistakes are avoidable. I am not insinuating making it again. But just Incase, continue the correction. I owe you a rock too. Thanks! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Quantum realm

Could use some help debugging, the WPBS isn't translating the NA-class through to the various projects, and I'm losing my damn mind over it. I can set the class to Start, C, etc, but "Redirect" and "NA" don't seem to do anything. Primefac (talk) 18:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

That is the intentional behaviour :) All NA-classes should be detected automatically. I'll take a look ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

As soon as a redirect is proposed for deletion is stops being a redirect, and so is not automatically detected by the template. I have posted at Module talk:Pagetype to see if we can fix that — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for that. I still think setting |class=NA (or redir) should actually do what it says... I wouldn't be surprised if there are pages that a project didn't want to classify. Primefac (talk) 12:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Redirects under discussion should now be detected as redirects — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

That's great (legitimately, thanks for following up with that), but it still doesn't change the fact that if a page should (for whatever reason) manually be marked as NA, it cannot be. Primefac (talk) 10:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

There was a lot of discussion about this when we started implementing PIQA. See Template talk:WikiProject banner shell/Archive 10#Ignore class on non-article pages? for some background. This was mainly about ignoring |class=redirect on pages which were not redirects, but it had the consequence that all non-article classes defined in |class= are now ignored, as they can be detected automatically — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Lookinsidecoach (06:07, 15 May 2024)

hey martin, I'm new here and want create an article.can you help me? --Lookinsidecoach (talk) 06:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, you could read Help:Your first article for information. What topic would you like to write about? You can write a draft article and only submit it when you think it is ready — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Query

Hello, MSGJ,

I noticed that you tagged Category:Articles using WikiProject banner shell with empty class parameter for CSD C1 speedy deletion. Would it also be suitable to remove the empty cat tag from parent category Category:Pages using WikiProject banner shell without a project-independent quality rating and tag it as an empty category? Just thought I'd check in about it. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:51, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

No thank you, we are still using that one. Cheers — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi

Hi User:MSGJ could you please help and do the request edits for Talk:Bigg Boss (Hindi TV series) season 7#Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2024 (2) Talk:Bigg Boss (Hindi TV series) season 8#Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2024 2A02:6B68:10:EF00:1DC9:DFFF:5BD1:5377 (talk) 10:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Fauji Enthusiast (17:27, 19 May 2024)

Hi, let me tell you a scenario. I want to create a battle but I'm not sure how to add references in the battle infobox. Could you please tell me? I want to use a reference i got for the infobox, and for something else. Basically, I'm going to reuse the reference i put in the battle on other paragraphs as well. Thanks. Also, what is the difference between footnotes, references and sources? Thanks so much and have a good day! :) --Fauji Enthusiast (talk) 17:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

I've replied at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Help With Editing — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Xujtimes (07:42, 20 May 2024)

Hello! I couldn't find my editing page of the article I created. Could you please tell me where to enter the editing page? Thanks --Xujtimes (talk) 07:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Do you mean Draft:Bodioid? Your April version was deleted as a copyright infringement of https://arxiv.org/pdf/2403.02972 You are not allowed to copy from other websites without permission. Also, it was not written in an appropriate tone for an encyclopedia anyway — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:24, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wikipedia meetups in July 2024

A tag has been placed on Category:Wikipedia meetups in July 2024 indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:47, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

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Banner shell

So what's the difference between how I did it versus how you styled it? The information is all there regardless. Snickers2686 (talk) 13:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Pages with multiple WikiProject Women in Red banners

A tag has been placed on Category:Pages with multiple WikiProject Women in Red banners indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject AIDS/doc

Template:WikiProject AIDS/doc has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 11:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Iamgiselesilva (18:20, 1 June 2024)

Hello, how do I create my page?? --Iamgiselesilva (talk) 18:20, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

What do you want to write about? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Olamiju Aduroja (19:25, 2 June 2024)

Hello , I am Olamiju please how can I add up picture to my article --Olamiju Aduroja (talk) 19:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

If you are writing about yourself, then I would kindly ask you not to (see WP:COI) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 04:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject Korea has positional parameters

I just noticed that Template:WikiProject Korea has positional parameters but isn't yet tracked in Category:Pages using WikiProject banner templates with positional parameters. Gonnym (talk) 22:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't think they were actually used for anything, so have just removed from the template — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Siralex1973 (19:40, 4 June 2024)

hi martin, i want to public this page: Draft:One for the Mockingbird I don't undestand why it hasn't be accepted.

Can you help me please? --Siralex1973 (talk) 19:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi there. The reasons for non-acceptance can be seen on the page: This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Most songs will not meet Wikipedia's requirements of notability, so you need to provide several in-depth references to prove this — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

hi Martin, i don't understand why this page One for the Mockingbird was a redirect to this page Broadcast (Cutting Crew album). --Siralex1973 (talk) 19:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Because it was a song from that album? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

"Template:WikiProject WikiProject Religious Buildings, Architecture and Monasticism" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Template:WikiProject WikiProject Religious Buildings, Architecture and Monasticism has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 8 § Template:WikiProject WikiProject Religious Buildings, Architecture and Monasticism until a consensus is reached. Gonnym (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject Challenges

Template:WikiProject Challenges has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:21, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Template:Counter-Vandalism Unit/fpage

I noticed Template:Counter-Vandalism Unit/fpage has escaped detection of Category:Custom class masks of WikiProject banners. Not sure if needed. Gonnym (talk) 08:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

It's not a custom mask - seems to be more like {{pagetype}}. I've replaced with _PAGETYPE_ which should do the job better — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Note on Arb Enforcement blocks

Your unblock here was out of process, as only a clear consensus at WP:AE or WP:AN can overturn an arbitration enforcement block. In this circumstance I don't have any issue with the unblock, but you should reach out about such unblocks since it's one of those things with Any administrator who revokes or changes a contentious topic restriction out of process (i.e. without the above conditions being met) may, at the discretion of the Arbitration Committee, be desysopped.¹ attached to it, like wheel-warring.

Again, to be perfectly clear, I'm not complaining about the unblock and I am fine with it, I just wanted to make sure you were aware. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I didn't spot that and thought it was just a regular block. Will look out for that next time! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject Color/doc

Template:WikiProject Color/doc has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 09:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from SigNbol (02:35, 17 June 2024)

How do I upload a new picture? --SigNbol (talk) 02:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Is this a picture you have taken yourself? If so, head to commons:Special:UploadWizard and follow the steps — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Question about Template:WPBS

How does Module:Wikiproject banner inherit the class parameter from WPBS? I'm trying to troubleshoot an issue I'm having on another wiki. If the WPBS has a class, the project banner comes up unassessed. Yesterday, I exported the latest diffs of each module, and 99% of it works out of the box, but it's not inheriting...it's coming up as Unassessed-Class. –Fredddie™ 04:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

We are using Module:Template parameter value. You can see the code at Module:WikiProject banner#L-81 — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

The da Vinci Barnstar

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		For leading the process of re-designing WP:Vital articles. I thought that this was the most appropriate barnstar. Great job and thanks for all your help on making the changes happen! Aszx5000 (talk) 09:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Well thanks a lot. But without you nothing would have happened — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:WikiProject assessment categories needing attention has been nominated for renaming

Category:WikiProject assessment categories needing attention has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Urhokpota (02:17, 24 June 2024)

Hi --Urhokpota (talk) 02:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Contacting admins listed as recently active

Could I request a look at the interventions of User:Maurnxiao in Talk:2024 United Kingdom general election, sections Infobox, Muslim Vote, and Workers Party.

A member of less than a week (although his very first post was challenging the status of sources as reliable, making me suspect he has been active under a different identity), entirely unaccepting of the principle of consensus, determined to see a level of coverage of one political party that is disproportionate to that given by mainstream news sources. Highly disruptive, unwilling to accept that his preference is not grounds to change the approach taken by the article. Time sensitive issue (election is in 10 days), so a quicker intervention would be desirable. Is seeking a topic ban suitable, or is some other solution more suitable.

With thanks. Kevin McE (talk) 08:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't have time to look at this now, but if urgent then I suggest you post to WP:ANI without delay — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:32, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

He is beating a dead horse as I had already accepted and acknowledged the consensus. Maurnxiao (talk) 10:42, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @MSGJ, matter now seems closed, although quite where he had acknowledged the consensus is unclear. Kevin McE (talk) 11:31, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

WP:WEEKND

Hello MSGJ, first I wondering if it was possible for you to email me the history of WP:WikiProject The Weeknd so that I don't go through a lot of trouble when the time recreate it comes. Secondly, is there a way I can try to recreate it or even propose it for approval? — dxneo (talk) 14:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Actually I don't quite get it. One user told me the WikiProject was deleted due to low number of participants and because it was abandoned but I when I recreated it, I put my everything into it and gathered enough experienced editors to help. Looking WP:WikiProject Sia and WP:SZA, I fail to understand how The Weeknd failed and they are still afloat. This is really not fair sir. — dxneo (talk) 20:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Read parameter name

Template:Read parameter name has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:38, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject merges

This is getting really frustrating. Here you told me it was "fine" to go ahead with these so long as the duplicates will be removed (they will). Now you have decided there's something wrong with the process? So what is the correct process, and why is it different from the clear, long-standing instructions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide/Task forces#Converting existing projects to task forces (Redirect the moved project's banner to the parent project's banner)? – Joe (talk) 07:25, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry if you feel I'm being obstructive. I do really support the merge, just want to make sure the templates get dealt with properly. Not sure where to post, because we have four different threads now. Will be monitoring and comment where I can add something — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:43, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2024

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Question from NancyMos (14:11, 3 July 2024)

I would like to download books by the telegram bot but can't find the bottom --NancyMos (talk) 14:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry I have no idea what you are talking about — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 02:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

error in Module:Endangered Languages Project

Hi. The ELP name for [hur] is Hulʻqʻumiʻnumʻ (Halkomelem). I don't see how to fix it. Thanks. — kwami (talk) 01:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps you could explain a bit more about where you are seeing this error? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 02:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

The ELP name in the info box at [[Halkomelem]]. It's automatically generated by this script. — kwami (talk) 02:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

You can change it at wikidata:Q35388#P2192. Someone really needs to write documentation for that module! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 02:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! — kwami (talk) 02:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Denis 216 (20:56, 8 July 2024)

Hello, there is one photo in the article that no very representative of Magda Olivero, being the director of The Magda Olivero Archives, I have access to better photos. How do I go about to change the photo. --Denis 216 (talk) 20:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@Denis 216 if you have photos that are in the public domain or could be released under a creative commons licence, then you are free to upload them to commons:Special:UploadWizard. After that I can take a look to see what can be improved on the article — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Snoophoggyhog (16:06, 10 July 2024)

Hello! I was wondering how I can make my Wikipedia page I have created public? --Snoophoggyhog (talk) 16:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Mpcrugnale (18:46, 10 July 2024)

Hello, I have never made any edits or other contribution to Wikipedia. My Fraternity Brother and friend, James Russel Kincaid, an author and professor from USC has a bio here and I would like to read it and see if I can make any additions. --Mpcrugnale (talk) 18:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Question about Vehicular Automation

Hi @MSGJ, I saw that you recently edited the Vehicular automation page. I wanted to ask if you could review the 'Autonomy levels' section that talks about the classification of autonomous driving levels, information that is pulled from the Self-driving car page.

There is new classification approach that has been added to the Self-driving car page, that's presented by Mobileye. It offers an alternative to the SAE levels of autonomy by providing new terminology of hands-on/off, eyes-on/off and driver/no-driver.

Would it be possible for you to present both these classification systems on the Vehicular Automation page too?

Note - I'm employee of Mobileye and have declared my COI. Gideon at Mobileye (talk) 08:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Kurnool Airport under G7

Hi. Could you tell me why you deleted the redirect under G7 after the move - Kurnool Airport (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 09:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

My bad. It looked like a valid G7 request, but I didn't notice that the article had just been moved — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Saikumarsrirama (18:54, 24 July 2024)

Hi martin, I would like to create a page for my company is possible to do so? if it is possible please help me. --Saikumarsrirama (talk) 18:54, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Doing so is discouraged. You can read more at Help:Your first article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:19, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2024

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Question from Nist2024 (18:16, 31 July 2024)

Hello Martin, its a pleasure. I don't have any questions right now but appreciate your outreach. --Nist2024 (talk) 18:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Canuck2024 (18:28, 1 August 2024)

Hi Martin! I'm new to Wikipedia and would certainly benefit and appreciate your expertise. I tried setting up a new article, "PesoRama", however it's since been rejected because it didn't have enough 'credible references'. I'm confused because it's a publicly traded company in Canada with 23 stores. Same business model as Dollarama.

Can you please help?

Thank you!! Canuck2024 --Canuck2024 (talk) 18:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

You can continue to work on the draft at Draft:PesoRama. If it is a notable company then you should be able to provide multiple references to reliable sources. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from NotACommittee (21:10, 5 August 2024)

Hi! I'm trying to correct the name of a US Air Force unit on their page National Air and Space Intelligence Center. There's an anonymous user that reverts changes back to a previous name and initialism. I don't want to get into an edit war...I've put a note on the talk page, but there's no change...I edit, they undo with no explanation. Any suggestions? --NotACommittee (talk) 21:10, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I have left a note on their talk page asking them to explain their actions — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:14, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Makes sense...Thanks. I'll keep an eye on it. NotACommittee (talk) 21:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

It happened again, so I have applied some protection to that article — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:20, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Rebecca Hermosillo

Hello, MSGJ. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Rebecca Hermosillo, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from WikiWonka888! (22:08, 14 August 2024)

Hey Martin. I spent some time making a page about some filmmakers I know who are career "directing duo". Now ideally their two individual pages would redirect to their "duo" page. Do you know how to make that happen? It's harder than I thought, and now the pages are a bit redundant. Thanks! It's Siegel & McGehee vs. David Siegel and Scott McGehee --WikiWonka888! (talk) 22:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Can I ask if they are famous just for the work they did together? Or did they ever do anything noteworthy independently? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:17, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

It looks likeAt a casual glance, it looks like only Life of the Party (2018 film) is different, but this is not mentioned in the film's article — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Luciuswhite on User:Cambalachero (16:40, 22 August 2024)

Hallo. I added descriptions for a fictional work's plot, but they were heavily shortened. I would like some aid in including my previous details in a streamlined fashion. --Luciuswhite (talk) 16:40, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Your revert

You reverted my edit here [1] with the reason “please stop using the faulty script” I am a WP:AFC reviewer I have no control over what scripts do when I accept a draft. Theroadislong (talk) 15:32, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@Theroadislong the responsibility for edits made using an automated tool or script lie with the user making them. In this case the script is making faulty edits, so you either need to manually review and correct every edit that it makes, or you should stop using the tool. But I have heard that a fix is in the pipeline, so hopefully this will be resolved soon — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

You need to stop now and undo all your reverts of this nature! There is a bot that cleans this up and it can't do its job if you revert. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#Assigning_WikiProjects_to_Articles. ~Kvng (talk) 14:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Please take responsibility for your edits, otherwise I will continue to revert — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:08, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Really? I'm not quick to go to ANI with stuff like this but several editors have already identified this as disruptive. ~Kvng (talk) 15:14, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I think reverting to an incorrect format, which you have already been advised is incorrect, would be seen as disruptive, no? You are welcome to include the banner in the correct place, and I will not touch it — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:17, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Well yes, I don't want to be disruptive. That's why I've dropped out of this edit war. The bot is working now and the problems will be fixed if you undo your reverts. I could go an fix the talk page where we're warring but I'm not sure where else this situation exists. If you do not undo your reverts, potentially important information added by AFC reviewers will be lost. ~Kvng (talk) 15:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Clovermoss

How did you do this? I'm trying to understand other projects better and I assume this means you connected it with a wikidata item, but the actual process confuses me a bit. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Clovermoss. Unfortunately it is not possible to connect a draft article to a Wikidata item (although I have argued several times that this would be useful). So instead you can add the |qid=Q113793155 parameter to associate it with item. Once it has been moved to mainspace and a connected properly to the Wikidata item, this parameter is ignored — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

September 2024 at Women in Red

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Template:Authority control issue

Hello. One of your changes to Template:Authority control (well, one of the Module pages related to this) has introduced a syntax error. On Template:Authority control, it's claiming it's a stripped li tag, but on the 750+ pages using this template, they are crying about a missing span and a stripped span tag error each. Would you have a second look at your changes related to this? Thanks. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I will certainly look into this — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I think I have fixed Template:Authority control. Can you give me an example of a page with a missing span tag? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. I can confirm the template is clean from the li error now. No other "claimed" syntax errors on the Template:Authority control page. I've purged the template page, and purged a few of the articles, but that hasn't cleared any of the span issues yet, so guessing it's an issue within a conditional statement and that state isn't present on the template page. This list, and this list have some pages to chose from that are reporting the missing/stripped span errors from the use of this template (universities, libraries, museums, and hospitals seem to be common themes). Zinnober9 (talk) 20:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Think all of those should be fixed now. Thanks for letting me know! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:02, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Yep, all good here now! Thank you so much! Zinnober9 (talk) 07:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Reversions on List of people named Liam

Hello! I recently noticed your dialogue about formatting on the Talk Page for the page above. You mentioned you were soon going to revert previous changes back to edits I had made. Do you want me to do so? Happy to. Thanks, Debartolo2917 (talk) 15:55, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, not much time to look at that now. But will check back later. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from CatInTree (19:30, 3 September 2024)

Is it generally good to edit a redirect page redirecting to a section of a less relevant article to the main article? Ex. Relation on a set used to link to Binary relation#Homogeneous relation, but I moved it to redirect to Homogeneous relation. --CatInTree (talk) 19:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes that looks like a good idea to me! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Battle of Cloyd's Mountain

Hello MSGJ - I noticed you assessed Battle of Cloyd's Mountain order of battle. Thank you very much. The Battle of Cloyd's Mountain has been entirely redone. Perhaps you know someone who could assess it too? TwoScars (talk) 21:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

I see someone has assessed it as B-class which I agree with. It looks very thorough and well referenced. Perhaps you would like to take it to WP:GAN next? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Gehailun (18:05, 5 September 2024)

Greetings. There is much I need to learn about editing from reading the getting started pages, but I can't seem to find how to add an External Links section to a page. Right now the page I want to edit only has a Main section and a References section. Thank you. --Gehailun (talk) 18:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Do you see the "Edit" button at the top of the article (or the top of each section)? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:57, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Leatherworker (18:42, 6 September 2024)

In regards to the Draft I have created, I have used relaible sources as everything is either newspaper articles, magazine articles, and government sources. I was wondering if you could give me any information as to why it has been declined. I have read through the pages linked in the Comment made on the draft and have taken the formality out of the writing style to make it more informal. Is there anything else I should opt to do in relation to this draft? Thanks. --Leatherworker (talk) 18:42, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

I'll have a look, sometime over the weekend — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Rebecca Hermosillo

Hello, MSGJ. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Rebecca Hermosillo".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Questions from SanctuaryOnSchoolAve on Stand by Me (film) (17:23, 15 September 2024)

1. Please review two citation references for proper Wikipedia house style that document recommended update to Legacy section of Stand By Me (film) entry.
2. How does one insert a bracketed superscript reference number and link/tie it to the proper source? Also, do prior successive reference numbers automatically get re-numbered?

--SanctuaryOnSchoolAve (talk) 17:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

The refernces look to be are formatted well. We wouldn't generally include facebook as a source because it is not regarded as reliable, so that one should probably be removed. Yes successive references will be renumbered (but it is possible to re-use the same source, in which case it could have the same number as a previous one). Hope that makes sense — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Please do not create nonexistent templates

Please do not create transclusions of nonexistent templates. It populates Wikipedia:Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates, and then another gnome needs to fix your fix. I recommend removing one of the braces on either end instead. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

I did not create a template — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

I misspoke. You created transclusions of nonexistent templates. Please refrain from doing so. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Chris M Horwitz (16:47, 22 September 2024)

Hello. I have made two edits recentlly, the more important of which was in Maxwell's Equations where there is a significantly wrong original entry which has been leading people astray for a long time. My correction was however removed without any communication with me. I would think Wikipedia would be using competent members to consider proposed edits but in this case I consider this to be an egregious lack of knowledge of the topic; someone expert in the field should re-consider my edit. At the very least I would expect the editor would communicate with me. For the second edit, on the history of William Shockley, I have had a helpful discussion with the editor who removed my edit - and that is fine, I will work on it and re-submit after I have downloaded the appropriate reference to your Commons. --Chris M Horwitz (talk) 16:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

So if your edit is reverted, the next step is usually to open a discussion on the talk page, in this case Talk:Maxwell's equations. There you can present your point of view or ask the other editor to explain why they reverted. I will open a discussion there for you now — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:24, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

@Chris M Horwitz there is a response on the article's talk page. Please view and reply there — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

I withdraw my proposed edit; after looking over the correct cross-product terms it's apparent that the moving diagram and its attendant field equations are correct as shown. My apologies for trying to spread disinformation! Chris M Horwitz (talk) 14:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from The scribeman (00:00, 25 September 2024)

Hi! While I was editing I found out some anti social editors reverted my edits with a personal agenda of defaming a particular caste group. It is very immoral to defame and spread mis informations about a particular community. Help me protect that page people constantly alter the page with misinformations I shall provide you legit government records supporting my side of informations. Thankyou --The scribeman (talk) 00:00, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Jly44 (18:29, 28 September 2024)

Hi Martin can you write and edit it for me? --Jly44 (talk) 18:29, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Write or edit what? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:34, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Worldpeaceisthebestthing (04:07, 29 September 2024)

Hi Martin, You sound cool. --Worldpeaceisthebestthing (talk) 04:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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Question from JaneBetTol (22:31, 29 September 2024)

I need to correct a mistake that a member of the public added to my bio. I tried three times to do it and save it on my laptop but couldn’t do it. Not sure why. Now trying on my iPhone. Can you help me? --JaneBetTol (talk) 22:31, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Safiahhafiez (18:00, 9 October 2024)

Hi there, can I outright edit a page that needs amendment if I am the source of the authentic content? Why would it be removed later on by the creator? For example, I credited my name in my own work which was not included. --Safiahhafiez (talk) 18:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

I Saw a creature on your userpage

Hello there, i saw your image. Who was is 77.77.219.225 (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:QuickStatements link

Template:QuickStatements link has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Valencia9376 (14:35, 14 October 2024)

Martin, Good Morning. I’m in the US in the Mountain Standard Time zone. In the article on automorphic numbers I think it’s missing the number 1951 as an automorphic number. I wanted to point that out to the author on the article. I may be wrong, I’m not a mathematician per se, so I’m asking if that number should be included in the list of automorphic numbers. Phillip --Valencia9376 (talk) 14:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm not an expert but 1951 does not seem to meet the criteria described on that page. The square of 1951 is 3806401 — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:34, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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g'day

saw you in the template - just a small FYI, tried creating a fresh assessment,https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Zheg%C3%ABr_Incident_(1999)

and the rogue 'start' has come from somewhere I dont know. Trust all is well JarrahTree 13:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Looks like what you've done there is fine. Military History won't allow a B-class rating until their checklist has been completed, so it will sit on start until a member of their project assesses it. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:20, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks - I am not auf fait with their internal eccentricities, appreciate your response - the other new simple new category items via rater seem fine. cheers JarrahTree 13:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

On Kyoga Nakamura project rating.

I was using rater to update article class (obviously not stub) and to add Singapore wikiproject. Rater added the living=no and I did not notice it as I did not touch the biography project. I should have double checked before submitting it. ~ JASWE (talk) 12:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I have reported this at WT:RATER — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Re: living=no

I have no idea why but rater will sometimes automatically add it even when there is already a BLP parameter. This time I forgot to remove it. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Reh688 on Wikipedia:Writing better articles (08:53, 27 October 2024)

My account and devices hack --Reh688 (talk) 08:53, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Reh688 on User:Reh688 (09:56, 27 October 2024)

Hacker attack --Reh688 (talk) 09:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Matt Shakman

I think I found a bug in the Rater tool. It sets the living to no for some reason. Alaney2k (talk) 02:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks

Tagging Indonesian topics brings out some strange things at times, point taken, will check...JarrahTree 09:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

OK - I see the BLP yes has been put in and when the template is edited, it ignores that and enters the living=no by default, I would in certain circumstances, say that the template/rater doesnt recognise it...(rather than the editor applying it) however, shoot the piano I say..JarrahTree 09:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

FYI - Have looked at one of the 12 articles that exists with the issue - and what has had is Tom.Reding has AWB'ed the blp=yes into the template header - and this does extactly the same if living=yes for the template - it creates the BLP banner above the template box. I hadnt checked at the edit history to look at previous edits to see the AWB of blp=yes when editing them, and in fact I will now simply remove the living=no are they are redundant and the result of some default mechanism in rater or the template that I have no understanding of how to suggest to you or other template fidlerers to do something about (ie when blp is entered, living is disallowed, or vice versa).. Thanks for reading this, and trust it makes sense to you. In this case, the piano, the player and the tune require prejudicial adjustment in whatever the best form is considered reasonable. JarrahTree 10:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Please see User_talk:Evad37/rater.js#Stop_killing_people for more detail — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

haha and I thought it was the banner shell/template box editors were the issue... thanks for the link... JarrahTree 10:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

For that matter, read the previous message above for further enjoyment. JarrahTree 10:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)