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Removed blp-prod

Hi, I removed the blp-prod tag on Will Kidman after I checked the article history and saw that it had previously had a source but an IP blanked the ref. I restored the deleted comment and citation. Schazjmd (talk) 23:56, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Barton, Kinder and Alderson

On 6 January 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Barton, Kinder and Alderson, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the only stained glass exported to the United States by Barton, Kinder and Alderson had to pay import duty, unlike much artwork in places of worship, because of its low cost-to-size ratio? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Barton, Kinder and Alderson. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Barton, Kinder and Alderson), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Miranda Brawn

Hello, you have been contributing to this article a couple of times too. It has been marked as "written like an advertisement". I asked the user who placed the tag what is the problem and following their response, I removed the part they found questionable. I started a conversation on the article's talk page and asked the community what else should I modify to improve the article. More than a month has gone by, but no response arrived. I take it as there are no more complaints. Just wanted to ask you (as someone who showed interest in the article), that what do you think, should I, or when should I remove the tags? The orphan tag is also unnecessary now, as the article has a link from Diversity ideologies. thanks, DillonPalm (talk) 19:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Answered on article TP. MB 22:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. DillonPalm (talk) 16:56, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Episcopal church in Bismarck

I don’t live in Bismarck and am not planning to go there in the next few weeks, but I could certainly try to get a picture for Wikipedia the next time I do have a reason to be in Bismarck. I’m sure there are people who do live in Bismarck who could take a picture more quickly. Try contacting the high schools and the colleges and ask if one of the history teachers would solicit help on your project. You might also see if a church member would email you a picture to use. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 10:55, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Bookworm857158367, I did send and email to the church requesting a photo but didn't receive any response - I thought they would appreciate an article and want to help. And I can't find anything on Flickr. Keep this in mind the next time you go to Bismarck. Thanks. MB 15:58, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

U101

Greetings, thanks for your work….regarding the sinking of the HMS Broadwater, Oct 18 1941 - the chart for that last mission shows it ending ending Oct 16 …is that mission log approximate and need to be extended to the18th? If not do you mind adding a note explain the conditions on Oct 18? Like was U101 on its way back to base and just happened to encounter Broadwater a few hundred miles south of Ireland? (If such arcania is knowable….)

Thx

reedondos@yahoo.com 2601:284:8203:44A0:0:0:0:F5D2 (talk) 14:08, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I assume this is about German submarine U-101 (1940). I only did some minor cleanup without altering the content. I don't see any mission log in the article. There is a chart that shows the Broadwater was sunk on 18 Oct and the prose says the final patrol ended on 16 Nov. Changes would need to be supported with a WP:RS, if you find one you can make an WP:EDITREQUEST on the article TP. MB 16:06, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Peter Safran Edits

Hey,

Just wondering why were my edits removed on Peter Safran? They were personally requested by him. I work for his company.

Thanks, Philip RosePhilipps (talk) 22:46, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

RosePhilipps, Anything that includes "Safran continues to produce the mega-successful..." is obviously promotional and likely written by someone with a Conflict of Interest that should not be editing the article. Since you have said you were requested by him to make changes to the article, then you have a COI. Articles must be written neutrally, preferable only by editors that have no connection to the subject and who are summarizing information published in Reliable Sources. If you wish to suggest changes to the article, you should become familiar with these policies and then make edit requests on the Talk Page of the article. MB 23:41, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Copy that and makes perfect sense. Thanks for the thorough response. RosePhilipps (talk) 23:49, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Companies disestablished in 2022 by country

A tag has been placed on Category:Companies disestablished in 2022 by country indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Qwerfjkltalk 16:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Companies established in 2022 by country

A tag has been placed on Category:Companies established in 2022 by country indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Qwerfjkltalk 16:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Careful with find-and-replace, please

Please be careful with find-and-replace; there are a few articles where you intended to replace the obsolete "athletics" parameter of the university infobox with the current parameter name but you also replaced every other instance of the word "athletics" throughout the article e.g., [1]. Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 00:34, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

"Anyone can edit Wikipedia" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Anyone can edit Wikipedia and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 11#Anyone can edit until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 15:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

"Wall St. Whiz Kid" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Wall St. Whiz Kid and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 12#Wall St. Whiz Kid until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. ZimZalaBim ^talk 03:33, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

MetalJesusRocks Page Creation tagged as Conflict of Interest

Hey,

Just wondering why was, me creating page MetalJesusRocks, is taken as a conflict of Interest.

Thanks,

~Nabeel~N013i 19:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)Nabeel

N013i, Almost of of your edits have been to that article and you added a half-dozen social media links. Those are commonly indicators of someone with a COI. MB 19:57, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

MB, Most of my edits were to that article because I was creating that page. It didn't existed before and that gave me a chance to try and create autobiographic article which I haven't had a chance to do so since 2009. And I was using the article about PewdiePie, another youtuber, as reference, and that article had his social media information links so i followed suit.

Royal Indian Air Force

Can you please review the article on Royal Indian Air Force for any errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cookersweet (talk • contribs) 15:49, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Cambridge

Sorry about the error on the University of Cambridge infobox. I should go back to computer 101 using the find feature (which i apparently didnt do properly?) Thanks again! Flyme2bluemoon (talk) Flyme2bluemoon (talk) 03:31, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hi Jolly Monument

Hello! Your submission of Hi Jolly Monument at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Nick Moyes (talk) 23:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi there. Just to expand on the rather impersonal template above: I'm really sorry, but I feel I had to decline this DYK nomination as my view is that it merits being merged with Hi Jolly and that, based on the limited amount of additional content, there's no need for a separate standalone article on this monument. I appreciate this will be disappointing. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Vietnamese immigration to Mexico

I wanted to thank you for your editing in my first article Vietnamese immigration to Mexico!MrStephenLeon (talk) 01:09, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

...for your cleanup attention at the Shadow and Bone series article. Cheers. 2601:246:C700:558:F08E:FCF9:6387:A3DD (talk) 15:04, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK for St. George's Episcopal Memorial Church

On 22 January 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St. George's Episcopal Memorial Church, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the windows of St. George's Episcopal Memorial Church in Bismarck, North Dakota, contain stained glass fragments collected from English churches damaged during World War II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St. George's Episcopal Memorial Church. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, St. George's Episcopal Memorial Church), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Albert L. Harris and Municipal Architect term

I'm glad you invited me to Talk:Albert L. Harris and that you've developed the article so well.

A possible tangent could be to create an article specifically about the office of the Municipal Architect, perhaps at Municipal Architect (Washington, D.C.), akin to Office of the Supervising Architect for the U.S. Treasury (although the latter is an office of national scale). Or to revise current Council architect article (to which Municipal architect is a redirect) to allow for some non-British usage of the term. Glenn Dale Hospital article now includes four Municipal Architect names: Albert L. Harris; Nathan C. Wyeth; Lawrence P. Johnston; Merrel C. Coe from the NRHP registration document for it, and from usage here of "Lawrence P. Johnston rather than "Lawrence Johnson".

References

--Doncram (talk) 23:55, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Typo-fix mistake: slashes in math

In this edit, you changed several "X/Y" into "X–Y". But the content is talking about a ratio of the numbers (numerical division), not a difference or range. DMacks (talk) 18:07, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

DMacks, thanks for catching that, I've fixed it. MB 18:37, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick fix-fix, and gnomeing! DMacks (talk) 18:39, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for fixing that infobox, really stumped me. TheAwesomeAtom (talk) 17:31, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Coordinate precision

Regarding your edit of Khlong Bang Luang Artist House which reduced 6 digits to 4 digit precision, could you please point me to the commonly accepted precision level for urban coordinates? Google map provides 15 digits which is excessive. I couldn't find a specific guideline so I followed the example in Template:Coord#Examples and used 6 digits for high precision. I've tried 4 and 5 digits before and in some cases the coord points to a different building. Aithus (talk) 07:12, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Aithus, See WP:OPCOORD. Four-digit coords are usually the maximum needed except for small objects at certain latitudes, where five-digits may be needed. I have used five-digits a few times for a statue or monument, but generally four-digits for a building. If I click on the four-digit coord in Khlong Bang Luang Artist House, I see the pointer on the correct building (but not in the exact center). I can't explain why 4 or 5 was not enough for some places. MB 15:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

MB, Thanks for that guideline. I see now that 4-digit precision is usually enough (at most 5m off from rounding), so I will follow it. Previous cases where I found 4-digit not enough was when I wanted to use the same location as pinned and reviewed (plus photos) by other people on Google Map but the pin is off-center, sometimes on the edge. Rounding error can then shift the location to adjacent building. In the future I'll pick coord near the center or main point of interest, then. Aithus (talk) 16:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Albert L. Harris

Hello! Your submission of Albert L. Harris at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Gwillhickers (talk) 21:23, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

First Church of Christ, Scientist (Seattle)

I see that you reverted my changes which I understand, recognizing that you are preserving a page about a landmark, which I fully support. The issue I was trying to address is that the title, First Church of Christ, Scientist (Seattle) refers to a building that was formerly the First Church of Christ, Scientist (Seattle). There is also a First Church of Christ, Scientist, Seattle that is currently holding services and operates under the legal name of First Church of Christ, Scientist, Seattle. My feeling is that it is not entirely accurate to call this page First Church of Christ, Scientist (Seattle). I feel that there could be better differentiation between the building which used to house the church but is now condominiums, and the Church itself which continues in another location. Is there a way to do this that would be acceptable to the landmark project? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquietmorning (talk • contribs) 08:32, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Aquietmorning, WP has articles on WP:Notable subjects. If the current church is notable (as meant here), there could be a new article. Since there can't be two articles with the same title, that could be resolved in several ways. I would recommend the WP:AFC process. If it doesn't qualify as notable, then you could add a section in the current article saying the church is holding services in a different location. Any changes would need to be supported with references to reliable sources. MB 08:55, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for fixing my syntax and other minor mistakes on this article. I am fairly new, and I appreciate it. --192.68.163.182 (talk) 15:34, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Albert L. Harris

On 8 February 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Albert L. Harris, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as municipal architect, Albert L. Harris led the design of all city buildings in Washington, D.C., from 1921 until his sudden death in 1934? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Albert L. Harris. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Albert L. Harris), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Your help desk question

Did you solve this problem? Irt looks like the type question you could ask about at WP:VPT, as you probably know.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 23:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Vchimpanzee, no I haven't found a solution for this yet. It really didn't seem that technical, but since no one responded at the HD I will probably try VPT next. Thanks. MB 02:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Why did you revert my Map edition on Federal University of Technology – Paraná?

Well, you reverted my good faith edit on the accurate location of this college, the problem is that the current coordinates point to an unrelated college (which I happen to know very well) located 2276 km (or 1414 miles) away from the actual college that is the focus of the article, the correct coordinates can be found on Federal University of Technology – Paraná's item on Wikidata Bastewasket (talk) 02:15, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Bastewasket, I reverted your edit because they were done incorrectly and caused the following error to be displayed instead of any coordinates: Coordinates: Unable to parse latitude as a number:25.26.21.3. Coords need to be in the decimal format, e.g. 12.3324, or DMS, e.g. 12|33|24. MB 02:20, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Also, you didn't leave an edit summary and I could not tell if you were making a correction or vandalizing the article. Now that I understand what you were trying to do, I have verified the coords in Wikidata correct and updated the article. MB 02:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

User:MB Can you help me out with this coordinates stuff and edit it with the info provided on Wikidata? I checked Wikidata's statement on location using Google Maps and the site of the university itself, and the coordinates used on Wikidata matches the address on the sources, but the one mentioned in Wikipedia is wrong. Bastewasket (talk) 02:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Ok, I just saw the new edit, ignore my answer Bastewasket (talk) 02:29, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Possible images for Claremont Fan Court School?

Hello, I noticed that Claremont Fan Court School does not have any images on its Wikipedia page. You don't happen to know of any images that could be used or possibilities of who to reach out to? Thanks Archivingperson (talk) 05:08, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

No idea. MB 06:30, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Fort Granby

Hi MB, you reverted my disambig with the above title. The redirect does not link to an article by the title of "Fort Granby", it redirects to an article about a town that at one time contained a Fort Granby. The redirect page also does not mention the other Fort Granby, the one in Tobago. I can't see how reverting my page improves the situation for some reader, perhaps a visitor to Tobago, looking for Fort Granby. Now I have to create a stub article with the title. OK. Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 20:37, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Acad Ronin, That is exactly the purpose of redirects, to direct readers to where the subject is covered, when there is no other article on the subject. Fort Granby, your dab page, was invalid because a dab must distinguish multiple topics and link to them per MOS:DABBLUE. Dab pages do not mention subjects that are not covered in WP somewhere. You have now changed the redirect into an article on the place in Tobago, which is fine. But there were incoming links to Fort Granby that are meant to link to the place in S.C. I have created Fort Granby, South Carolina, and added a WP:HATNOTE to your article Please fix the incoming links by changing to Fort Granby, South Carolina where appropriate. Thanks. MB 22:06, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

East Asiatic Company => Santa Fe Group => EAC Invest

You would be much more useful to the objective of having an accurate reference if you researched news on a subject instead of destroying accurate information. The Santa Fe Group no longer exists there are now two separate firms under different ownership one being EAC Invest A/S the successor to the East Asiatic Company the other being Santa Fe Relocation which is part of Proventus. The two articles that should still be up are in bold. You don't need to read Danish there are articles on the company in English and there are translation aps.RichardBond (talk) 23:47, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

I created an accurate page and then didn't know how to remove the redirect to this one. It looks like the accurate page has been deleted and this page reverted to the current inaccurate heading.RichardBond (talk) 01:26, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

RichardBond, it appeared that you copied information from one article and pasted it into a different article. That is entirely improper as it does not preserve the attribution of those who wrote the original article. If an article such as East Asiatic Company is out-of-date, it should be updated. If the company has changed its name to EAC Invest A/S, the the name of the article can be changed by a WP:MOVE. Do not created a new article and then copy in most of the contents from another article. MB 01:30, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

How do you change the heading without moving the text? This should be on a page with the heading EAC Invest A/S not Santa Fe Group. EAC Invest is currently a holding company with minority direct investment in three operating companies and a stock market portfolio. Santa Fe Relocation still exists but was sold. RichardBond (talk) 01:36, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

I think I managed to make the correction as 1:57 Greenwich Time. RichardBond (talk) 01:57, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

RichardBond, you didn't do it correctly because you had Wikipedia: in front of the new name. It has all been fixed now. I updated the hatnote with both former names and put them into the infobox. The "History" section currently ends with "In November 2019, the Santa Fe Group became EAC Invest." The more recent events should be added (with references). I will leave that to you. Santa Fe Relocation needs updates also; it still says it is owned by Santa Fe Group. MB 05:11, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank You RichardBond (talk) 05:43, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Regarding removal of image from infobox of Mihir Bhoja

I didn't understand, why inclusion of the coin image in infobox was reverted. Sajaypal007 (talk) 18:00, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Sajaypal007 Because it is confusing. The article is about a person and the image should be of the person. See MOS:LEADIMAGE where it says It is common for an article's lead or infobox to carry a representative image—such as of a person or place, a book or album cover—to give readers visual confirmation that they've arrived at the right page. MB 18:06, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

MB Thanks for the clarification, it makes sense to not use coin image in infobox of a page about a person. Sajaypal007 (talk) 18:10, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Spacing RfC

Hello MB,

Thank you for your comment on the spacing RfC that I posted. I am new to these RfC, so I apologize in advance for my long winded proposal. If you would by any chance reconsider your support for this, I would greatly appreciate it. I have found it to be a highly rewarding (to me at least!) editing task to go through towns and city articles especially, and to locate typos and other minor things in need of fixing. Then I discovered, while on an article with a great deal of text, that it is much easier for me to spot such issues if I first comb over the article and add a single space beneath each header (this adds nothing in terms of change to the "render" I believe it is called), or to anything other than our shared "back end" in the source editor, but it makes it much more accessible for me. If it is not too much of a bother, and really just a preference, I'd ask you to kindly reconsider. Perhaps if this is not made a "requirement" or "mandate", but rather just a suggestion, we might more easily find consensus? I am open to either. I just want to be able to make these spacing adds, without risk of being reverted. Thank you very much for reading my comment, and if this does not give you cause to reconsider, that is fine too. Feel free then to simply ignore it. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 03:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hi Jolly Monument

Hello! Your submission of Hi Jolly Monument at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! HouseOfChange (talk) 04:39, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Operation Ivory Soap

On 26 February 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Operation Ivory Soap, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Operation Ivory Soap created and operated a fleet of aircraft repair vessels to support the United States' island-hopping strategy in the Pacific during World War II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Ivory Soap. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Operation Ivory Soap), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Other editors are still having to clean up your find-and-replace mistakes

A month ago, I asked you to please be careful with find-and-replace. You're still making the same errors that other editors are having to clean up. Please stop. ElKevbo (talk) 22:50, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

ElKevbo, I am being careful, but that does not mean I will ever be perfect. I've updated over a thousand university articles to use the new sports and affiliation parameters. If there were a couple of errors, I don't think that is out of line. I look at Category:Pages using infobox university with unknown parameters every day and know for certain that you have introduced at least a half-dozen infobox errors yourself in the last six months or so after making changes. Knowing they were just honest mistakes, I have just fixed them and moved on. I don't think my error rate is worse than yours. MB 00:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Draft:NASCAR Truck Series race at Sonoma

Hi MB,
I accidentally published the NASCAR Truck Series race at Sonoma article before I was ready to. I was editing the edit summary in the middle of my edit and accidentally hit "publish" when I wasn't finished with my edit. I hadn't put any sources in it yet so that's why there wasn't any and then why you moved it to be a draft. I created the page again but had thought that I had made my second edit to that article when I actually recreated the article as you had already moved it to draftspace. (I thought I'd get an edit conflict where I'd be able to see that you moved it to Draft:NASCAR Truck Series race at Sonoma but I didn't). So with that being said, can you delete the draft article?

Thanks,
Cavanaughs (talk) 08:59, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Cavanaughs, just add {{Db-author}} to the draft and it will be deleted. MB 14:54, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

The N

Hello, MB,

When you do a page move, please leave a redirect if there are redirects pointing to the page being moved. Otherwise, these redirects are broken and are deleted by a bot unless an editor intervenes and corrects them. Alternatively, before a page move, you could change all of the page redirects to point to the new location. But it is probably simpler if you just left a redirect during a page move so that a different bot can change the target of the old redirects to point to the new page location. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:42, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Liz, oops, I didn't think that one through clearly. Thanks for recreating the needed redirect. MB 03:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Leon B. Senter

Hello! Your submission of Leon B. Senter at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Mhhossein ^talk 03:11, 4 March 2022 (UTC) Mhhossein ^talk 03:11, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

re: reversion

fair enough, although I think "recruited to the United States" could be a bit punchier- how do you feel about:

• ... that the Hi Jolly Monument in Quartzsite, Arizona, marks the grave of Haiji Ali, a driver for the United States Camel Corps?

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 21:56, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

theleekycauldron, that is better, but the "camel" aspect in less likely to be picked up since it is one word from the end, and although this hook says the monument is in the US, it doesn't make it obvious that the Camel Corps operated in the US. I still think the original hook is better. MB 00:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm not certain about that? The revised does say "United States Camel Corps", but I'm not sure how "recruited by the United States" implies that the Camel Corps operates in the u.s.—we can add a "camel", though:

• ... that the Hi Jolly Monument in Quartzsite, Arizona, marks the grave of Haiji Ali, a camel driver for the United States Camel Corps?

or, working more closely to the original:

• ... that the Hi Jolly Monument in Quartzsite, Arizona, marks the grave of Haiji Ali, recruited to the United States Camel Corps to drive and tend camels?

I'm sorry to push, by the way, the wording's not of the utmost importance. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 01:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

theleekycauldron, I'm getting confused here. Where did you get "recruited by the United States"? The original hook said "recruited to the United States", which certainly does imply the Camel Corps operated in the U.S. Your last hook does not seem grammatically correct - "recruited to the USCC". He was recruited to the US, or by the USCC, but not to the USCC. I still don't see any improvement over the original hook. You seem to trying very hard to eliminate "United States" twice. I don't see a problem there because the first is referring to the location/country and the second is the name of a formal unit/branch. But if you really can't live with that, how about just abbreviating the second usage:

• ... that the Hi Jolly Monument in Quartzsite, Arizona, marks the grave of Haiji Ali, recruited to the United States to drive and tend camels for the U.S. Camel Corps ? MB 04:01, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

i'm a little lost myself—what does "recruited to the United States" mean? isn't it just easier to say that he was recruited to the camel corp? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 23:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

theleekycauldron, "to" is common preposition. According to this, "to/into" follows "recruited" about 20% of the time, the same percentage as "by". I think it is perfectly clear, that he was recruited to tend camels in the U.S. As I said before, the U.S. Camel Corps does not imply it was in the U.S. as the U.S. military is well known to have operated worldwide for a very long time. MB 00:49, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

How about "the Hi Jolly Monument in Quartzsite, Arizona, marks the grave of Haiji Ali, recruited from Syria as a driver for the U.S. Camel Corps"? HouseOfChange (talk) 03:06, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

HouseOfChange, I think that would get nit-picked at WP:ERRORS because there was no Syria at the time, he was of Syrian/Greek ethnicity and an Ottoman subject. It might work if Syria was piped to Syria (region). I still prefer the original, but I could live with that. MB 04:54, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, MB, I didn't catch that Ali was a foreign recruited into the U.S. army :) I'm fine with HouseOfChange's ALT, but if you don't—wait, hang on...

how about the Hi Jolly Monument in Quartzsite, Arizona, marks the grave of Haiji Ali, recruited from the Ottoman Empire as a driver for the U.S. Camel Corps?

it adds some extra quirk, no? the U.S. Camel Corps sounds pretty modern, and the fact that it existed at the same time as the OE might turn some heads. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 16:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't mind adding where he was from as you suggest, but "from the Ottoman Empire" sounds a bit "clunky" or unnatural to me. How about

... that the Hi Jolly Monument in Quartzsite, Arizona, marks the grave of Haiji Ali, an Ottoman recruited to the United States as a driver for the U.S. Camel Corps? MB 03:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Hi Jolly Monument

On 6 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hi Jolly Monument, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Hi Jolly Monument in Quartzsite, Arizona, marks the grave of Haiji Ali, recruited to the United States to drive and tend camels for the United States Camel Corps? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hi Jolly Monument. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hi Jolly Monument), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Nice work MB! Love to see folks editing Arizona topics. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 23:23, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

CaptainEek, thanks for the note. I just glanced at my article list and there are about 25 on AZ topics, most have been DYKs also. MB 23:32, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

"Conjuration" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Conjuration and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 10#Conjuration until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Masato.harada (talk) 11:11, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Leon B. Senter

On 12 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Leon B. Senter, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as the first licensed architect in Oklahoma, Leon B. Senter held "License Number 1" for forty years, from 1925 until his death? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Leon B. Senter. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Leon B. Senter), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church

Hi @MB: It would be very helpful if you could look into the discussion Talk: Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church and intervene in the dispute. Jude Didimus (talk) 14:10, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

AWB

Please be careful when using AWB and check each edit before saving. There were a couple of errors in your recent run, such as changing '1st Viscount' and 'the Republic of Ireland' to 'first Viscount' and 'the Ireland' at Louis Mountbatten: [2]. This broke a wikilink and made a sentence ungrammatical. Thanks. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:41, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Ravi Belagere

Hello MB, Regarding your edit in article Ravi Belagere, in my past experience I had come to know that only ′Freely licensed files′ (when available) are to be used in articles. If not, only then non-free files are to be used for articles (such as non-BLP). Were you aware of that and agree? --Gpkp [u • t • c] 06:24, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Gpkp, I saw that one image was replaced with lower quality portrait and restored the better image. If you were removing it due to licensing, it was not clear from your edit summary. I still don't understand what "(+Inf.details)" means. It does appear that the image does not meet the requirements for fair-use as alternatives are available. But why did you not nominate if for deletion if the fair-use rational is not valid? MB 15:05, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

• MB, by "(+Inf.details)" I meant ′Infobox details′. Usually what I've come across is, unused non-free files are not tagged for deletion by users, but once as soon as they are found as unused they are automatically tagged for deletion by bots within few hours. By the way, do you agree to reinstate the free-licensed file instead of the currently used non-free file? --Gpkp [u • t • c] 05:56, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

  I have nominated the image for deletion because it is not fair-use - that is clearer than just not using it and waiting for a bot to tag it as unused - this will establish that it does not meet the criteria for fair user if it is uploaded again. I also put a better version of the other photo into the article. MB 14:35, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Revert

The article that I inserted a wikilink to has context on this, should I add an annotation next to the link to clarify the relevance? See here: NIMBY#Claimed rationale. Thanks! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 16:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue, that list of claimed rationale appears to be mostly WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH. People often don't want prisons or garbage dumps near their homes, but NRHP listing often means there is pride in a property and it is well maintained. That list implies an objection to historic listing because a property is "preserved" and therefore not updated. If this has actually happened somewhere, it is probably quite rare and not particularly relevant to mention in NRHP. MB 17:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

I believe within the context of a simple "See also" listing, even some of the more rare instances may be covered here. I updated in good faith, with contextual wording if you want to take a look. Thank you. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 17:03, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue, moved discussion to Talk:National Register of Historic Places. MB 17:26, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Template:Miss Universe 2000 delegates

When removing the flagicons on this template yesterday, I'm afraid you broke it. There are a bunch of excess closing braces, it looks like. Could you please fix it? VernoWhitney (talk) 20:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

VernoWhitney, not sure how I missed that. All fixed. MB 20:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! VernoWhitney (talk) 20:50, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Fix infobox image syntax edits

Hi. From what I come across, it seems that more often than not bad infobox image syntax is a result of inexperienced editors inserting copyvio images which then have to be deleted. Sometimes, they replaced validly licensed images, and when the de-linker bot removes the copyvio, no one remembers to restore the previous image, and the article is left without one. (And when one attempts to, the Undo function is blocked by your subsequent edits, so it has to be done manually.) What I'm asking is, would it be feasible to add a brief check to your workflow, to see if recently inserted images with bad infobox syntax are likely copyvios, and if so simply revert the addition (and maybe tag the images for deletion) instead? --Paul_012 (talk) 08:19, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Paul_012, I have thought about this in the past. There are currently around 200 pages that need to be fixed. From watching the category, I know there are a few other editors that work on these at times, but lately I think I have been doing most and I've been too busy recently to keep it clear daily. There is no way I can evaluate every image to determined it is likely to be deleted. Sometimes, one is quite obviously a copyvio and I do revert and nominate the new image for deletion. But most times, I just fix the syntax and hope that if it is deleted later, another page watcher who knows about the article will restore the prior image. I'm not sure that the majority of images with bad syntax are copyvios, but certainly some are (25%, 50%, who knows?). I doesn't seem like it would be that hard for the bot to do this, i.e. when removing a link to a deleted image, search the history for the insertion and if it replaced another image, restore that image. Maybe this isn't so easy - but we could ask anyway. MB 20:16, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I'm sure my impression is skewed more towards copyvios since most of the time I notice such cases when the notification bot posts on the talk page. I'm not quite hopeful about requesting a new feature for the CommonsDelinker bot. It's long been my impression that it's woefully undermaintained, with a long list of bugs in the backlog (though this might have been before its rewrite in 2015, so my impression might be woefully outdated). --Paul_012 (talk) 10:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Paul_012, see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Articles and images. MB 04:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Callaway Gardens

Hello, MB:

You may be correct that Golf template cannot be embedded in another template, but the change you made removed the primary template, Protected Area. I was in the middle of several other changes for that page. If you feel compelled to make a change when somebody else is working on a page, please let them know. I will be finished with this page within an hour. Thanks. Mgrē@sŏn (Talk) 21:58, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Mgreason, I'm not sure why you think I would have "known you were working on the page". WP:Edit Conflicts are a consequence of the Wikimedia software. There were errors in the article and I fixed them. You can advertise you are actively working on an article by temporarily adding the {{in use}} template, but you had not done that. MB 22:10, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Hi MB, thanks for fixing up the infobox on the Marcel Aymé page, and for correcting my embarrassing spelling mistakes. So, um, as, I guess, a "newb" . . . how'm I doin' so far? Hopefully haven't stepped on anyone's toes. Hérisson Ford (talk) 06:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Hérisson Ford

Hérisson Ford, one of the most important concepts is that information must be sourced. You are providing citations, so it would appear you are off to a good start. You also signed the above message, which is something else that is often not done in the beginning. I did move the message to the bottom - Talk Pages are kept in chronological order. I also removed a link you had on France; there is no need to link common words or other things most, like "major" countries for example, that most readers would know (see WP:OL). I put some other info on your Talk Page. Good luck. MB 15:15, 5 April 2022 (UTC)