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To Kashmiri
Terrorism as a fact
It is true that using a clever and sophisticated language even the most heinous crime against humanity can be portrayed correct and justified. This is the strategy seems to be adopted by many fundamentalist jihadi individuals starting debates about use of correct terms while describing terrorism in today’s world.
This is the most unfortunate reality of open forums. Indeed sometime in future these jihadis will even justify acts of killing of innocent people by using arguments that sound plausible.
There can not be any other description of organisation such as Al-Queda and Laskar-e-Toiba than Terrorists. To term their actions as just ‘militancy’ is in real sense itself an act of terrorism and unjustified fundamentalism.
It is unbelievable to see you is justifying acts of terrorism or taking a sympathetic stand towards LeT and distracting attention by spilling-out buzz words about Indian media, politics etc. It seems your knowledge about India, Pakistan is extremely shallow and is based on few books you have read while back-packing in this region. Please do not comment on such deep and intense topics you do not understand well. Such comments and attitude have in fact fuelled and encouraged terrorism in South Asia and subsequentlycaused wide loss of life and economic destruction of this region.
I believe you are most likely a post-graduate student in UK/EU trying to make a living by becoming an expert on terrorism in South Asia. Please leave it to South Asians. Inteference, soft stand and political support (sometimes unintentional) within Europe has caused already an havoc in India and Pakistand and have destroyed many lives. RichardSlater
Reply
Thanks for your reply. Why did you delete my previous reply? Do you know it constitutes pure vandalism? Warning given.
I have replied to you on your user page but currently see no point in continuing the conversation because of your unacceptable behaviour and lack of very basic personal culture. Instead of referring to my arguments you continue to insult me. I am sorry to see someone like you claims to represent the rich Indian civilisation. kashmiri (talk)
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I have never come across so much sympathy for LeT by anyone. It is astonishing that you are using nice and clever words to justify your stand towards terrorism. It is indeed a sad fact such attitude towards terrorism has fuelled it to an extent we see it as a part of daily life today. By your philosophical arguments you are making lives of many people difficult since your views are seen as encouraging by many terrorist organisations. Finally as an outsider of South Asia, frankly you have no moral right to justify the terror activities in India by LeT as right or wrong.
The Indian culture you are mentioning sadly you have no idea what you are talking about. There is absolutely no connection of it to this topic of discussion.
I feel sorry to see fairly educated individuals like you indirectly supporting terrorism under the name of balanced views and other specious arguments. RichardSlater
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Wikipedia does not allow to use the words "terrorism" - see WP:WTA#Terrorist.2C_terrorism. Sorry. kashmiri (talk)
Just because you have spend couple years roaming and backpacking India and Pakistan doesn’t mean you understand the issue of terrorism to any extent. Looking at the nature of your editing and deletions actually raises many points about your integrity, motives and activities in Pakistan and J&K. Being a political science student you have made an impression about yourself as some kind of balanced observer of this region suffering from horrific oppression due to terrorism. Unfortunately it looks as though in am attempt to become a ‘scholar’ you have lost the focus. Your use of word of militant instead of terrorism proves this beyond doubt. Coming to the topic of your editing on Wikipeid, pseudo-intellects similar to you are the real cause of mis-information spread around the world. The POV style arguments are specious and only attribute a subconscious sympathy with acts of terrorism. RichardSlater
Reply by: kashmiri
Pity you did not bother to introduce yourself. My time in India and Pakistan had nothing to do with backpacking. I have spoken to hundreds of families, Indian officials, met in person tens if not hundreds of your "terrorists". Your accusations are rude and offensive. The issue of terrorism is a very complex one, please take time to read any literature on the subject. For your information, opposition militia who fought the Nazis in Poland were oficially called "bandits"; striking similarity with the use of "terrorist" and "rogue state" to denote all US enemies.
LeT, if you read their programme, have publicly denounced attacks against civilians. I know that theses still happen, I know that other militant groups might not have this programme.
I don't know if you have followed the 2002 Chattisinghpora incident where a number of Sikhs villagers were killed by some armed men in Indian army uniforms, and then some unidentified "Pakistani terrorists" were accused. All witnesses agree that the killers were local army troops who spoke Hindi of Madhya Pradesh. Widespread criticism has forced the J&K Government to perform DNA tests of the killed "terrorists"; however, the Calcutta-based laboratory announced that all the DNA samples were fake (actually belonged to one girl). The killing took place just before the general elections and in my opinion was aimed at polarisation of the population along communal lines. You seem to know India well and I guess you can confirm many unfair things happen before and during elections.
This was just an example of free use of the word "terrorist" by the media who have their own agenda. I detest this and that's why I decided to remove such slang from your edits.
It is beautiful that you love your country. I know love is blind. But don't mix your emotions with objective facts. And don't feed the Wikipedia community with the outcome.
kashmiri (talk) 20:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Mediation Cabal request
Hello. You are either the case requestor or a named disputant in the Mediation Cabal case Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-08-14 Lashkar-e-Toiba regarding Lashkar-e-Toiba. I have reviewed the materials provided and have decided to mediate in the matter. Please go to Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-08-14 Lashkar-e-Toiba, review the section marked "Standards for Mediation" and sign your name with ~~~~ at your earliest convenience, that way we can begin to get this article to a mutually agreeable state. Thanks for your time. CQJ 18:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Due to our backlog, please visit the case page as soon as possible and let me know if this is still an issue or not. The latest I can probably let this sit open is 29 August, after that, I'll be closing the case as inactive and moving on. Thanks for your time. CQJ 16:55, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Per your comments, the case is re-opened. Please visit the above links and respond as soon as possible. CQJ 17:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
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Hi there. I know you've already been here for a bit, but I noticed that nobody every gave you a welcome template, so I decided to give you one. Better late than never.
Anyways, the reason I'm visiting is because I ran across Image:Safari stable.png and couldn't figure out what that was about. Did you create it via editing rather than an upload? I would imagine that you want it deleted, but I figured I'd ask you first. Cheers! —Ashanda (talk) 13:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ashanda,
Thanks for your comments. The image you asked about forms a part of a Wikipedia article - see Acid3. Please do not delete it again as this results in breaking up that article. Please let me know if I should mark/describe the image in any specific way to prevent further automated/manual deletions.
Many thanks,
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{{unblock|global block - My IP address is a local ISP in Poland, not any "open proxy". It is also my main internet provider. Please unblock my account for editing when accessed from that IP address.}}
Well, servers anywhere can be hacked or misconfigured. I'll have the OPP people check again. If it still is, you should contact them about correcting it. I can't just give you IPBE since it is not to be used to in open proxies. Daniel Case (talk) 15:59, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hello Kashmiri. Your ISP has recently had an open proxy on its network, and you are coincidentally sharing some of the same IP addresses. As a result I've granted you WP:IPBE so you're not affected by the block intended for the open proxy users. Please read the policy carefully. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, Daniel Case and zzuuzz. Still, can you unblock me on all wikis, not only the English one? Rest assured I will never breach the policy intentionally. kashmiri (talk) 06:13, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately we can only grant this right here. Similar mechanisms for IPBE exist on most other wikimedia wikis, or you may want to ask User:J.delanoy to take another look at the global block. It's also possible for each wiki to unblock the IP locally, which may be something of interest to admins or checkusers at pl.wiki. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:41, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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I assume you were asking for the account to be deleted? Well, we don't do that. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:50, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
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- No problems :) However, I am quite surprised to see that the cite doi bot (used by the cite doi template seems to be not working, would you be able to check it? kashmiri
SVG Barnstar
Just so you know, SVG barnstars are currently kept at the "Barnstars 2.0" page, so Barnstars 2.0 by WikiProject or Barnstars 2.0 by country. There's no reason to replace the bitmaps. Cheers! Achowat (talk) 19:23, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. Actually, I noticed that a few 1.0 barnstars are already in svg format (Wikipedia:Barnstars), and since personally I hate bitmap formats, I went ahead with replacing the Hinduism Barnstar with its svg version all over (except for user pages). Thanks to let me know if this needs reverting - I was not very familiar with the Barnstar Project. kashmiri (talk) 19:53, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I think I got them all. No worries. Achowat (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- BTW, as I see you started doing reverts, would you be able to clarify in a few words what's wrong with having this file in SVG - particularly when the SVG image page urges using it over the bitmap version? Thx! kashmiri (talk) 20:02, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Gladly! Y'see, there are 2 different kinds of Barnstars that exist. Barnstars (or Barnstars 1.0) that are based on File:Original Barnstar.png and Barnstars 2.0 (or New Barnstars) which are based on File:Original Barnstar Hires.png. The issue isn't having SVG vs bitmap, it's about Barnstars 1.0 vs 2.0. However, the SVG image you were uploading (which is a 2.0) should be listed at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject if you'd like to add it in. Achowat (talk) 20:06, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! Now I see the difference. I just added the Hinduism Barnstar to the list. BTW, it's interesting nearly all others are called "barnstars", this one (Hinduism-related) is called an "award". Any idea as to why? kashmiri (talk) 20:22, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Gladly! Y'see, there are 2 different kinds of Barnstars that exist. Barnstars (or Barnstars 1.0) that are based on File:Original Barnstar.png and Barnstars 2.0 (or New Barnstars) which are based on File:Original Barnstar Hires.png. The issue isn't having SVG vs bitmap, it's about Barnstars 1.0 vs 2.0. However, the SVG image you were uploading (which is a 2.0) should be listed at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject if you'd like to add it in. Achowat (talk) 20:06, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- BTW, as I see you started doing reverts, would you be able to clarify in a few words what's wrong with having this file in SVG - particularly when the SVG image page urges using it over the bitmap version? Thx! kashmiri (talk) 20:02, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I think I got them all. No worries. Achowat (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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Hi there Kashmiri, are you an ALS researcher? Seems to be an area of interest to you. I think it's fine to merge some of the more scientific content from ALS into SOD1, maybe just leaving a line or two about SOD1 in the ALS article, and preferably making the SOD1 have at least some slightly less lab-science section where we talk more about it in closer to lay terms. That work for you? --PaulWicks (talk) 14:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
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Hey thanks for improving those ALS references. Do you use any kind of tool that helps do those properly? I find it a real pain in the to do them right... --PaulWicks (talk) 12:36, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Paul, I use Citation bot. Once you have an article's DOI (preferred) or PubMed number/identifier (PMID) you just type:
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- Hope this helps! kashmiri 12:58, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
List of current ambassadors of Poland
Are you sure that polish ambassador left Ethiopia? A source is needed this time, because I cannot find any... Of course there is information about the last meeting before coming back to Poland, but nothing about that he left already... Boniek1988 (talk) 00:52, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
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How Wikipedia may restrict from giving important information on financial organizations that may make you loose your money, especially if their Terms and Conditions explicitly note that they have right to that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiuserleo (talk • contribs) 10:43, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
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Ok, you again omitted the point of my message, as omitted my response to your earlier comment, where I've specified which part of the document allows the company close account, meaning loose of fund (no account means no place to have one's funds). What can I do then??? Is that the policy of Wikipedia to hide the true facts? From the official documents??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiuserleo (talk • contribs) 10:57, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- I have not seen you specifying the part of the document. Anyway, please discuss the matter on Talk:Moneybookers, a discussion has already been started by Ianmacm. Also, don't forget signing your comments. kashmiri 11:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
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- See my response on your talk page. kashmiri 22:34, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- See response to your further comments on my talk page. — QuicksilverT @ 18:49, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, you'll simply have to educate yourself on the rules of typography and punctuation. I'm not interested in discussing the matter any more with you. — QuicksilverT @ 22:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
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I told you plainly, I am no longer interested in discussing the matter with you. If you wish, revert the edits I made; that is your prerogative. Your attempts to contact me and issue threats and warnings are tantamount to harassment and will not be tolerated. However, if it appears that you systematically revert any and all edits I make without good reason, that could be construed to be wikihounding, and it could result in a suspension or revocation of editing privileges. Good day.~~
- Please refrain from accusing me of imaginary actions: I never not attempt to contact you nor issue any threat (unlike you in your comment above). A formal warning is a natural reaction of the Wikipedia community to repeated wilful breaches of its rules and you have been warned several times in the past. Your vandalising of Wikipedia will be referred to administrators. EOT for me. kashmiri 00:02, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for your recent helpful edits to the new article I've created, Freedom for the Thought That We Hate. We'd love for you to join WP:WikiProject Freedom of speech if you're interested in the subject matter. :) Have a great day! — Cirt (talk) 17:11, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
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- According to Jdforrester, all new style UK Government logos are released under the Open Government Licence, meaning they can be uploaded to Commons, hence why I have uploaded them as such. Old style logos are not currently under this licence. Cloudbound (talk) 13:54, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- Also, the new logo I have uploaded is official, and also comes from a direct government source. Cloudbound (talk) 13:57, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know where Jdforrester took his information from. The Home Office website explicitly states otherwise [1]. Also, the logo that you uploaded does not essentially differ from what it was before, except that in your image the styled "Home Office" text has been put in the standard gov.uk heading style. The current logo (which has not changed) can be seen e.g. in this document published on their website yesterday: http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/alcohol-drugs/alcohol/guidance-section-182-licensing/?view=Standard&pubID=1089521. kashmiri 14:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- I left a message on Jdforrester's Talk page asking for clarifications. I am almost certain that his information is wrong and that his changes to the articles on UK government agencies will require a lot of undoing... kashmiri 14:35, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- If, as it appears, you are correct, I will upload the files again to Wikipedia with alternative licensing, and seek the speedy deletion of those already on Commons. The Home Office logo I have uploaded is still an official one, it just hasn't gone live in all communications from the department. A similar situation happened recently with the Department for Work and Pensions, whereby a new campaign was issued featuring the new style logo, although the old text logo remained in use on the departmental website. All government department logos are changing to the new style as part of changes to the hosting of UK government websites on to one domain. Cloudbound (talk) 14:42, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- Also, the new logo I have uploaded is official, and also comes from a direct government source. Cloudbound (talk) 13:57, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Student edits
I was wondering, you said here that there was some value. Is there any way you could WP:PRESERVE the good? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 23:50, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I spent several hours preserving valuable info from that editor's input – just take a look here please: [2], the additional text of the newer edit draws essentially from what Esarmah's had added. However, please see my comment on his/her Talk page as to why his/her additions required editing. And today, he/she just reinserted these old edits as I was able to judge from a cursory look, despite them being removed earlier. Sure, Esarmah is relatively new to Wikipedia... kashmiri 00:13, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you kindly. Biosthmors (talk) 12:38, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- By the way, do you ever post over at WT:MED? I don't remember seeing your name come up. I'm focused on improving medical content, and deep vein thrombosis is my best article thus far: see Wikipedia:Peer review/Deep vein thrombosis/archive3. I'm trying to also improve malaria and dengue fever. Do you have any medical articles you'd like to see improved? Or might you be interested in this or this idea/initiative? Biosthmors (talk) 12:54, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I spent several hours preserving valuable info from that editor's input – just take a look here please: [2], the additional text of the newer edit draws essentially from what Esarmah's had added. However, please see my comment on his/her Talk page as to why his/her additions required editing. And today, he/she just reinserted these old edits as I was able to judge from a cursory look, despite them being removed earlier. Sure, Esarmah is relatively new to Wikipedia... kashmiri 00:13, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hey all :).
I'm dropping you a note because you've been involved in dealing with feedback from the Article Feedback Tool. To get a better handle on the overall quality of comments now that the tool has become a more established part of the reader experience, we're undertaking a round of hand coding - basically, taking a sample of feedback and marking each piece as inappropriate, helpful, so on - and would like anyone interested in improving the tool to participate :).
You can code as many or as few pieces of feedback as you want: this page should explain how to use the system, and there is a demo here. Once you're comfortable with the task, just drop me an email at okeyeswikimedia.org and I'll set you up with an account :).
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Hello Kashmiri, As you suggested List of awards and nominations received by Vidya Balan be merged to Vidya Balan but i have reverted because the Awards article is long enough so need of merging it to Vidya Balan and moreover i am going to nominate it for Featured List candidates after pr review so please don't merge, Thank You Greatuser (talk) 05:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, tags are placed there in order to have a meaningful discussion. It is not up to one editor to remove them just the next day. The second article's subject might not be notable enough to form a separate article, considering that a lot of its contents have been discussed in the main article Vidya Balan. Wait for a discussion and consensus before removal pls. kashmiri 11:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
- Don't merge, and if you want to merge also give a specific reason, I have worked very hard on this page and i want to see this page as Featured List Please remove the tag, She has received about 40 awards and the article is long enough, Remove your tag please Greatuser (talk) 12:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
- The template only proposes a merger and normally should remain in place for a couple of months until a consensus is reached either way. It's great that you have worked so much on this article but please see WP:OWN. kashmiri 13:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
- Correction, and for future reference.."If the proposer of the merge did not start a discussion for the merge, and it is not obvious why the articles should be merged, it is acceptable to remove the tags. If the reason for the merge is obvious, you can either merge the articles boldly, or start a new discussion." If you don't begin a discussion as the merg proposer...it is almost immediatly a stale merge. So unless it is obvious..the tag could have been removed without it being considered an edit war. See Wikipedia:Merging, Help:Merging and Wikipedia:WikiProject Merge.--Amadscientist (talk) 07:12, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- The template only proposes a merger and normally should remain in place for a couple of months until a consensus is reached either way. It's great that you have worked so much on this article but please see WP:OWN. kashmiri 13:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
- Don't merge, and if you want to merge also give a specific reason, I have worked very hard on this page and i want to see this page as Featured List Please remove the tag, She has received about 40 awards and the article is long enough, Remove your tag please Greatuser (talk) 12:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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re:Untitled
Oh, sorry was busy, had no free time to respond, entering the topic, I have not set notice templates, because I could not find,I should find it soon, thanks for the warning,i will try to find those templates, have a nice day!! :D Carliitaeliza TALK 02:02, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Enabling Twinkle on your account makes such tasks easier, and appropriate templates can be inserted in just a few clicks. You can enable Twinkle in Preferences. kashmiri 02:25, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
but I have some doubts, I can use without permission Twinkle? some persons told me, I need have permission for use it and others only told that I have to use it,i don't know if is correct use it or not Carliitaeliza TALK 02:36, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- As far as I know, Twinkle can be used freely by everybody as long as it is not misused or abused (access to it is revoked in such cases). See WP:TWINKLE. kashmiri 02:42, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Well,thanks for confirmation,have a nice day! Carliitaeliza TALK 02:49, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Re Pictures
Ok,I'm so sorry,will follow the rules,thanks for let me know Carliitaeliza TALK 19:57, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Sam Houston State University
Hi Kashmiri, I work at Sam Houston State University and we are in the very early stages of revamping the Sam Houston State University page. I'm not sure if you are affiliated with the university or how closely you've read the branding the guide, but we do not use the Seal (http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:SHSU_seal.svg) imagery on websites. The branding guide specifically states "The seal has been designated for official university use only (http://shsu.edu/about/documents/SHSU_BrandGuide.pdf | SHSU Brand Guide)" - which is primarily on printed materials. As of now, our marketing department does not consider the WP article an official representation of the university and we are in the process of removing the link to the seal from the article. Unfortunately, the fact that the seal was on the WP article at all was not sanctioned by our Marketing department and was added by a former student.
I'd appreciate it if you allow me to remove that imagery from the article or you may remove it yourself. Please let me know if you have any questions or feel free to contact the SHSU marketing department for further verification on the matter. I'm new to wikipedia and apologize if this is not the best method for contacting you. I'd appreciate your cooperation in the matter. lowin 14:14, 15 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurenlinn (talk • contribs)
- Reply on your Talk page. kashmiri 01:19, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Sam Houston Seal - SH box logo
Hi Kashmiri - I may have been hasty about my complaints about the use of the seal on wikipedia - apparently some of my higher ups felt that it was alright to use on the article. But I see that the file is deleted so - I can figure out something else. I'd really prefer the SHSU primary logo (orange box) to appear at the top of the article side bar rather than the photo - I am unsure how to edit that part of the article to make that happen. It appears that files tagged as logos always go to the bottom of that side bar. I appreciate all your help in the matter! I am having a difficult time learning how to use the wikipedia editor. lowin 14:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurenlinn (talk • contribs)
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Well,I acknowledge maybe in my edit there a error,but in >recent changes< the tag "Possible Vandalism" was not wrong,trouble will be solved soon, myself and affected user,regards and thanks! Carliitaeliza TALK 14:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
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RE: Deletion of Mobiquant
Hello, just to let you know, you deleted Mobiquant without giving due respect to the AfD process [3] which you did not allow to last even 24 hours. I understand that one of article contributors had ARV and was rightly blocked. Still, thanks if you could restore the Mobiquant page and keep it until the decision is reached in due course. kashmiri 22:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hello! The article failed speedy deletion criteria, and I was unable to find any reliable sources in a comprehensive check (going through non-English sources, mostly). Given that it's existed for three years in more-or-less the same unsourced state, I believe a speedy close isn't uncalled for; we use speedy closes at times when it's not necessary to go through the full seven days of discussion. If you have any further concerns you're welcome to share. Regards, m.o.p 23:02, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- Google's English-language results include: [4] (Bloomberg Businessweek), [5] (Objectif News), [6] (ITR), [7] (Journal du net), [8] (Apple, Inc.), etc. I do not insist these alone make that company notable in the English-speaking world. Still, I believe that more discussion would be fair. kashmiri 23:18, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- Interestingly, it seems that Google doesn't like me searching news sites while logged in; from a logged-out perspective, quite a few more pop up (I imagine it's because they tailor results to your language/area). In addition, I found this. I've restored the page and discussion, and apologize; in this case, there was more than I could see at first glance. I see no issues with letting the discussion run the full course now. Thanks for making me take a second look! m.o.p 23:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, when logged in, Google behaves weird down here in UK, too. It took me quite a while to force it to show non-English language results. English Google now shows me around ~2,000 results, out of which I estimate around 20-30 would be independent mentions of the company (other than paid articles, job ads, etc.). That alone doesn't make them very notable. Still, thanks for restoring the page, let's now see what other editors think about it. BTW, interesting to observe how strongly misbehaviour of company representatives influences its image - even on Wikipedia. kashmiri 00:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- Like I said in my edit summary, I'm blaming this on Google. ;) and yeah, conflict-of-interest editors always leave a bad taste in my mouth; however, that shouldn't impact whether or not an article is notable. The effect still is interesting, though. m.o.p 00:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of File:ZooMontana logo.png
First, I am not disagreeing with the speedy deletion of this file -- I don't really care what format the file is in, as long as there is a logo in the article that Wikipedia considers legal (which there is). However, I have a couple of questions about WP policy (or standard practice) on logos.
- The message says "because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format". This is patently not true. PNG and SVG are two completely different file formats. Is there at least no better message that can be posted?
- The message is also disingenuous in that it says 'If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion, but the file was deleted before anyone could have possibly responded.
- It seems to me that the PNG, which is an actual copy of the logo (including the exact colors) is a better representation of the actual logo of the company than an SVG that somebody drew (which is still a non-free image). I have never quite understood why we waste time redrawing logos into a format which may actually not exactly represent the company logo as found on its own materials (unless the SVG was actually obtained from ZooMontana, which is not clear to me from the logo page -- mthe page says "may be obtained", not "was obtained"). And, if it is indeed an exact replica, again, why waste time when there are many other uses for such skills?
Thank you for any clarification that you can provide. Don Lammers (talk) 01:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- (1) There is a limited range of speedy deletion templates available in WP:Twinkle. Sorry for taking the most approximate one. I believe a more correct template exists (something like the "orphan" template for artciles). I had no time looking for it, knowing that the final effect would be the same.
- (2) People tag - admins actually delete files. I believe the speedy delete tag should normally remain in place for 48 hours (or 7 days if "delayed speedy deletion" is requested). However, it seems an admin deleted the file earlier.
- Yeah, I thought there was supposed to be some period of time too. In this case I was online less than 6 hours before it was deleted, and had not gotten your note, so evidently someone jumped the gun a bit. Don Lammers (talk) 18:16, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- (3) As per WP:IUP, SVG format should be used for logos. Shape and color rendering in SVG standard is superior to raster graphics (PNG, etc.); designers initially create logos as vector graphics and, if needed, later convert it to a raster format. In this particulat case, the vector logo was taken directly from ZooMontana website - extracted (using Inkscape) from one of PDF files available there. Hence, no worries about colours/shape.
- For this image I agree that SVG is appropriate because it was extracted directly from a document. I also agree that SVG is preferable whenever such an image can be found. However, most of what I've seen in the past was redrawn logos just to make them SVG, which I still don't understand or agree with (and is not really relevant here -- just a pet peeve of mine -- sorry for the rant). Don Lammers (talk) 18:16, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hope this clarifies the matter. kashmiri 02:49, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. All is good. Don Lammers (talk) 18:16, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- I now added the link to the source file. kashmiri 02:56, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. This makes it clear where it came from, and that it is from an official document, which was not the case before. Don Lammers (talk) 18:16, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
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Kargil
Hello, Glad to see that u made those corrections to the article on the district Kargil. U see, I am new and have no previous experience of either editing wiki pages or editing other articles. I don't even know how to use this talk page and am just randomly going about it. Thanks any way! Anwaraj (talk) 16:35, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Anwaraj
Google Street View
Please do not revert my edit anymore. I have two different sources for my edit! Thanks! - EugεnS¡m¡on(14) ® 16:27, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
- Even if you had ten thousand sources, you should not make these edits. This is not about lack of sources – it is about the Wikipedia policy of not mentioning events until they happen. See WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL and WP:BRD. kashmiri 16:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
- Specifically, "5. Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements" kashmiri 16:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
The problem there isn't just lack of sources, it's that unsourced opinions (some of them fringe) and speculation are presented as facts, that the "influences" section is vague and looks like someone added it as their own opinion, and that there's too much detail from primary sources. Peter James (talk) 12:40, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- You added all the crappy unsourced content back into the article with "Rv content blanking. Please see WP:PRESERVE and use {{cn}} for unsourced material, unless its inclusion is a clear policy/MOS violation" even though the policy violations have already been pointed out repeatedly. Why? If you're not going to self-revert, can we assume that you will find sources for the bits that can actually be supported by sources, and remove the rest; or are you exempt from WP:BURDEN in some way? bobrayner (talk) 12:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Peter James: Yes, I am not very familiar with that particular theory but I also see that large passages of the text are overly detailed and lack third-party sources. Also, I see WP:COI, or rather "conflict of thought", with User:Abhidevananda. Still, his contributions are definitely not as substandard as to be plainly reverted (in fact, thousands of text passages of much lower quality are up there on Wikipedia). Considering that in Indian tradition (parampara) teachings are traditionally passed down along a teacher-disciple lineage (usually without questioning), and both P. R. Sarkar and Abhidevananda Avadhuta (see Google) undoubtedly represent the same lineage, I would not discount his edits altogether; rather, suggest working from them.
- Bob Rayner, please see my reply above. Also read WP:BURDEN: Editors might object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references; consider adding a citation needed tag as an interim step. Additionally, looking through the edit history [9] you have a long history of reverting all edits by Abhidevananda. Same as to your warring on Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar with other editors. Any particular reason? kashmiri 13:05, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- I have been removing content with serious sourcing and NPOV problems. If Abhidevananda adds this stuff then Abhidevananda may well get reverted. Any other editor who adds crappy content may well see it removed or refactored too; it's nothing personal. I daresay that I have reverted spam, fluff, and fiction added by a hundred different editors, on different articles, in the last month. Concerning this particular article, there have been many previous calls for sources and attempts at talkpage discussion; the fact that nobody else heeded these pleas for editors to follow our most important principles does not give you carte blanche to reinsert content with sourcing and NPOV problems. Are you going to fix the problem that you have created? The simplest fix is the revert button, but if you're undertaking some other fix I'm interested in seeing your suggestions. bobrayner (talk) 13:17, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Only the more dubious parts were removed, others added by Abhidevananda (the main contributor of the article's content) remain without sources (such as the additions to the chronology), and most of the article is still sourced to Sarkar and people and organisations associated with PROUT, Sarkar and Ananda Marga. There's no history of reverting all edits by Abhidevananda, only reverts of the edits to restore the dubious content. Peter James (talk) 13:34, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hello again Kashmiri. Have you found any good sources for the content that you added to the article? bobrayner (talk) 09:48, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- Perhaps you missed my earlier message. Have you found any good sources for the content that you added to the article? On Talk:Progressive utilization theory, I have proposed that editors comply with WP:V and WP:NPOV in future; would you support or oppose that? bobrayner (talk) 14:09, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Bob, I fully agree with reminding all editors about WP:V and WP:NPOV whenever necessary. As to the sources, I did not add any content on my own, I only reverted content blanking. Sources should ideally be provided by the author of that content or other editors. The page is under full protection anyway kashmiri 20:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Perhaps you missed my earlier message. Have you found any good sources for the content that you added to the article? On Talk:Progressive utilization theory, I have proposed that editors comply with WP:V and WP:NPOV in future; would you support or oppose that? bobrayner (talk) 14:09, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hello again Kashmiri. Have you found any good sources for the content that you added to the article? bobrayner (talk) 09:48, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Created cardinal
The terminology generally used when a person becomes a cardinal is "x was created cardinal". This can be seen consistently throughout the cardinal article, and is even used within the infobox. Why did you feel the need to change the term to "elevated"? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:11, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- "created cardinal" sounded slightly weird to me; and if you insist on referring to cardinal then "elevated" is used more frequently there than "created". But I do not insist on the word, feel free to revert if you prefer. kashmiri 21:17, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it may well sound weird. But it is the common usage. (Read the Catholic Encyclopedia "Cardinal" article, especially the "Duties of Cardinals" section, for an example.) WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:20, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- "created cardinal" sounded slightly weird to me; and if you insist on referring to cardinal then "elevated" is used more frequently there than "created". But I do not insist on the word, feel free to revert if you prefer. kashmiri 21:17, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Macmillan Publishers
We have Macmillan Publishers with a hatnote to Macmillan Publishers (United States).
Does the template {{Big6 publishers USA}} belong in the former footer?
(I don't understand the situation and I have created Macmillan links still need disambiguation, as well as some that may be unhelpful.) --P64 (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, the template includes Macmillan Publishers and that's not an error. As the article states, Macmillan Publishers (United States) is defunct and by no means can be a big publisher. kashmiri 10:21, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
WA 2000
I'm suffering abuse from the same guy who you've been arguing with. ROG5728 I notice he also uses the same friends to back up his claims as he does against me. Could you take a look at my situation and give me some advice? This guy is really a bully. I ask because its the same guy you had a problem with in your article.
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Glock_pistol
He's used the same tactics as he used on you. Posting what he considers to be the rules while removing anything that contradicts what he's saying.
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Walther_WA_2000 Lbrad2001 (talk) 20:44, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Cookies!
Hey, thanks for helping out with The International Fact-Finding Mission on Israeli Settlements page! I appreciate you helping to make the article more neutral.Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 19:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC) | |
A kitten for you!
Thanks Kashmiri for your encouragement.I am completely new here your advice will surely be helpful for keeping a long relationship with wikipedia.
nivedita222 10:27, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Fact-Finding Settlements
Hi Kashmiri,
Balance is important and I do not think my edits violate Wikipedia guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christine2013 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Christine2013, Please refer to Manual of Style and policies, esp. WP:NPOV, the lecture of which will help you understand the Wikipedia project better. For now, you did not bother following the request and advices placed on your talk page, and keep adding biased and promotional information to the article. In addition, in violation of guidelines, you don't bother leaving edit summaries, you keep using bare URLs as references and now even don't bother signing your posts. Honestly, get yourself acquainted with the project better so that other won't have to spend hours correcting your text. kashmiri 17:50, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- There isn't any policy that says you must leave edit summaries. There isn't any policy that says you must use anything other than bare urls in a reference. There isn't any policy that says you must sign your posts. Honestly get yourself better acquainted with project so you can give people better advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.38.235 (talk) 13:22, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- Official Wikipedia policies and guidelines in case you were unable to find them:
- Edit summaries: WP:FIES#Always provide an edit summary. Section title says it all.
- URLs in citations: WP:LINKROT#Preventing link rot: "The first way to prevent link rot is to avoid bare URLs by recording as much of the exact title, author, publisher, and date of the source as possible."
- Signing your posts: WP:SIGN.
- Honestly, more cooperation with the community from an editor with so few contributions would be much appreciated.
- Regards, kashmiri 13:38, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- My post said there were no policies
- Help:Edit summary is not a policy
- Wikipedia:Link rot is a how to guide, not a policy
- Wikipedia:Signatures, finally at least you quote a behavioral guideline, still not a policy that saids "article talk pages and other discussion pages should be properly signed" but it does not say that signature must be used
- Honestly it would be great if you read the pages you quote and what you are responding to
- Question, how many edits do I have? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.38.235 (talk) 13:48, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- Question: Are you User:Christine2013? If so, you claimed that your edits "did not violate Wikipedia guidelines" (a few lines above). I pointed out that they did violate policies and guidelines. If you still can't see what you were doing wrongly, there is nothing else I can do except suggesting to read the policies and guidelines of this project again. No guide will say that an editor must do something; there is no compulsion to edit Wikipedia - hence a more civil word "should" is used all over. Hope this will end the discussion since if you are in denial it will lead nowhere. For edit counts, see here: [10]. Regards, kashmiri 14:47, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- No I am not Christine. You tell someone very impolitely that they are doing something wrong but it isn't wrong, they are suggestions. You could have written it like that and been nice about it to Christine. And then when someone confronts you about it you say there are policies and guidelines, but that has been proven wrong. You are the one who needs to go back and learn about Wikipedia before you start correcting people. I have been editing Wikipedia longer than you and have way more edits than you. There are policies that say you must do things or not do things but those things that you corrected Christine on are not any of them. Please stop talking down to people.
- Question: Are you User:Christine2013? If so, you claimed that your edits "did not violate Wikipedia guidelines" (a few lines above). I pointed out that they did violate policies and guidelines. If you still can't see what you were doing wrongly, there is nothing else I can do except suggesting to read the policies and guidelines of this project again. No guide will say that an editor must do something; there is no compulsion to edit Wikipedia - hence a more civil word "should" is used all over. Hope this will end the discussion since if you are in denial it will lead nowhere. For edit counts, see here: [10]. Regards, kashmiri 14:47, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- Another question, how is this edit vandalism? WP:Rollback is only to be used in a very limited set of circumstances. WP:Rollback#When to use rollback describes those circumstances. The only bullet point that could possibly apply is the first one of the five. The edit wasn't in your userspace, it wasn't rolling back an edit you made, as far as I can tell, Caroline is not a banned user and it does not look like you were using it to revert widespread edits. So you must have been calling it vandalism when you reverted it. It does not look like vandalism to me. Can you explain this or do you not understand what the right is supposed to be used for? Honestly you should learn the rules for using features before you use them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.38.235 (talk) 14:44, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- The user demonstrated a continuous pattern of editing in disregard of Wikipedia policies and guidelines, including removal of large portions of good quality text without prior discussion and replacing it with WP:BIAS. The user continued despite warnings, which can constitute WP:VANDALISM. Any further edits of this type will be reverted even without providing an edit summary. If in doubt, please take the matter to WP:AN. I don't feel like feeding a troll and will not respond further. kashmiri 15:00, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- That edit wasn't WP:Vandalism and you were wrong to revert it without an edit summary and if I do see you reverting non-vandalism edits I will raise it at WP:ANI since WP:AN would be the wrong venue. 24.126.38.235 (talk) 15:08, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- The user demonstrated a continuous pattern of editing in disregard of Wikipedia policies and guidelines, including removal of large portions of good quality text without prior discussion and replacing it with WP:BIAS. The user continued despite warnings, which can constitute WP:VANDALISM. Any further edits of this type will be reverted even without providing an edit summary. If in doubt, please take the matter to WP:AN. I don't feel like feeding a troll and will not respond further. kashmiri 15:00, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- My post said there were no policies
- Official Wikipedia policies and guidelines in case you were unable to find them:
- There isn't any policy that says you must leave edit summaries. There isn't any policy that says you must use anything other than bare urls in a reference. There isn't any policy that says you must sign your posts. Honestly get yourself better acquainted with project so you can give people better advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.38.235 (talk) 13:22, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Civility Award | ||
You handled this conflict with an immense amount of patience. You're certainly a civil person! Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 18:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC) |
Eugen_Simion_14
Kashmiri, I'm sorry about my offensive language but I was provoked by Eugen_Simion_14 for calling me an idiot. Check Nokia maps' history page. Please, give him a warning too just like you gave me a warming. Thank you.
P. S. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post my request.
Делян (talk) 03:09, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, his edit summary was certainly inappropriate, but your reaction went much further and was much more public. See, many Wikipedia articles are very contentious - for instance, as you can see in topics related to Israel/Palestine, India-Pakistan conflict, MMR vaccine, thiomersal, 9/11, etc., etc. - and the discussion can sometimes get very heated. But WP:CIVILITY is nearly universally respected. Regards, kashmiri 03:21, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Wstrętny Brytol
"Wstrętny Brytol" It's nickname very popular in Poland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.253.158.157 (talk) 16:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Paul Barbeau
Thanks for your edit on Paul Barbeau. I must admit I was not alert. The edit history had both a user Paul Barbeau and an IP address. Yet, the IP user admitted he was Paul Barbeau. Somehow that did not sink in with me and I treated the IP user as if he was independent of the article. I know the policy about persons contributing to an article about themselves but my brain did not seem to be making all the connections. Thanks again for catching this. Donner60 (talk) 21:27, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Careful
Your citing of WP:LIBEL here: Talk:Burzynski_Clinic#Bias looks a lot like a legal threat. Be very careful about characterizing another editors edits in legalistic language (per WP:NLT). IRWolfie- (talk) 23:18, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
- That was a warning for User:JzG not to use the language he did ("Eric Merola is ... an outright crank", etc.). I have no interest whatsoever with Burzynski, etc.; nor even have I ever lived in the US. Simply, hope you agree these statements of his have nothing to do with improving the article. JzG as an admin should know very well that his primary duty is to make sure Wikimedia Foundation remains immune from prosecution. Which I am not 100% sure he understands. My comment was justified, and now that you made me revisit the discussion, and JzG has not changed his attitude, I think I might report this to WP:ANI. Regards, kashmiri 09:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- You missed my point. I am simply asking that you don't use legal language since it implies a legal threat. You cited WP:LIBEL in response to an editors comment, yet that policy is in reference to article content. IRWolfie- (talk) 10:22, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- I hope you don't suggest that linking to an official Wikipedia policy (becasue WP:LIBEL is one) constitutes a "legal threat." kashmiri 15:44, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- The policy is in relation to article content, but that doesn't seem to match the way you are citing it. I'm suggesting that saying "WP:LIBEL. You are warned. You are also misusing the Talk page which serves discussion on how to improve the article and not to run a campaign about the article's subject." sounds like you are suggesting another editor's comment is libellous, See Wikipedia:NLT#Perceived_legal_threats. IRWolfie- (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Correct, that's exactly what I warned about: that the other editor's comments violate WP:LIBEL. Nowhere did I threaten with legal action, though, so not really sure why you mentioned WP:NLT. kashmiri 22:57, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstand what I'm saying in that you appear to acknowledge that you are using the words to imply a legal violation, but I'm not going to labour the point, good day, IRWolfie- (talk) 16:21, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstand WP:NLT. I have all and every right to bring up legal violations and brand them as such. WP:NLT is about threatening to employ litigation, which I never did. Good day. kashmiri 16:32, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- At the very least read the section I linked to. IRWolfie- (talk) 18:39, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- BTW, it nowhere says that WP:LIBEL applies only to article content. It would be utterly absurd to assume so: it is an organisational policy, not a Manual of Style. kashmiri 16:38, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- This is what I understood from your comment above ("You cited WP:LIBEL in response to an editors comment, yet that policy is in reference to article content.") Anyway, let's end here, this is leading nowhere. kashmiri 19:59, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstand WP:NLT. I have all and every right to bring up legal violations and brand them as such. WP:NLT is about threatening to employ litigation, which I never did. Good day. kashmiri 16:32, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstand what I'm saying in that you appear to acknowledge that you are using the words to imply a legal violation, but I'm not going to labour the point, good day, IRWolfie- (talk) 16:21, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- Correct, that's exactly what I warned about: that the other editor's comments violate WP:LIBEL. Nowhere did I threaten with legal action, though, so not really sure why you mentioned WP:NLT. kashmiri 22:57, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- The policy is in relation to article content, but that doesn't seem to match the way you are citing it. I'm suggesting that saying "WP:LIBEL. You are warned. You are also misusing the Talk page which serves discussion on how to improve the article and not to run a campaign about the article's subject." sounds like you are suggesting another editor's comment is libellous, See Wikipedia:NLT#Perceived_legal_threats. IRWolfie- (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- I hope you don't suggest that linking to an official Wikipedia policy (becasue WP:LIBEL is one) constitutes a "legal threat." kashmiri 15:44, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- You missed my point. I am simply asking that you don't use legal language since it implies a legal threat. You cited WP:LIBEL in response to an editors comment, yet that policy is in reference to article content. IRWolfie- (talk) 10:22, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
National Moot Court Competition
Thanks for following up on this so the mistake would not linger until I got back online. I know what I was thinking when I saw it but I clearly did not perceive the hidden vandalism within the sourced comments. These errors are always embarrassing when one is trying to keep vandalism out. Fortunately, I have made them in a very small percentage of edits over time. Donner60 (talk) 16:50, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
I added this to the IP user's page and put a similar reply on my talk page: Sorry that I missed the fact you were reverting prior vandalism. User:Kashmiri has already reverted my edit and the page should now be returned to your edit. He also removed my warning on this page. I am embarrassed to say the least. The vandalism was cleverly inserted and I noted only the removal of references. Please note in edit summaries that you are reverting vandalism. In this case that should have prompted me to take a closer look at the entire article. Thanks for noting the vandalism in the first place and bringing it to my attention. Donner60 (talk) 17:01, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, Don't worry, it happens to me, too, from time to time. Large-scale text blanking from IP addresses is so often vandalism that I, too, not always take time even to open the diff. Here, I quickly restored the earlier version so that that IP editor doesn't feel that their comments are left without a reaction. Also, I left him/her a notice encouraging him/her to sign up for an account. kashmiri 17:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks again. Donner60 (talk) 17:19, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
US vs U.S.
US is not an acronym. It is an abbreviation. PayPal had both US and U.S. It now has only U.S.
Sleigh (talk) 12:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
- See Acronym for definition. MOS:ACRO specifically mentions the "US/U.S." case, making it clear that it needed to be corrected to "US". Anyway, thanks for trying to bring uniformity to the article. kashmiri 13:43, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 17:31, 3 May 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Faizan -Let's talk! 17:31, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- And Thanks for your edit here, I did not look at the text properly and restored it, Thanks! I will update the latest info. Faizan -Let's talk! 17:44, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- That's ok :) If you had anything current on Gwadar's economic impact, that would be very useful in the article. But looking at a recent photo of Gwadar Port on Google Maps (satellite imagery), I am somewhat doubtful of the reality. kashmiri 17:49, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Kargil Regarding "Wildlife section"
Hello, Yes! you are right. You see I'm a novice here and would try to rectify my wrong edits asap. Thanks for keeping an eye over the article.Anwaraj (talk) 14:54, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Anwaraj
Kargil
The required portion under the heading 'wildlife' has been shifted from the page 'Kargil' to the page 'Kargil District'. Plz do let me know if it is done aptly. Thank You Anwaraj (talk) 16:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Anwaraj
Balochistan
Hi, can u stop editing the balochistan page.
- Excuse me, please? kashmiri 19:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- Sad on this. This was never vandalism. Faizan 11:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Look at the edit history of that IP editor.[11] Over several months, he/she hasn't made a single meaningful edit to Wikipedia but instead kept adding unnecessary titles and breaking wikilinks all along. Despite all his/her edits being reverted by other editors who explained it was wrong, he/she continues. How would you name such behaviour? kashmiri TALK 12:09, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Again, I really don't see his edits as "Vandalism". He does not know about the WP:MOS, but this does not mean that he is vandalizing moron. I will term him as a suppressed Muslim, he just adds the traditional titles, depicting honor and respect. [12][13][14][15][16][17][18], etc. Were all these vandalism? He ought to be given a welcome message. See his helpful feedback, I am working on it. Faizan 12:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- We don't have a warning template for "suppressed Muslim" but we have for someone who persists in damaging articles. One or two such edits would certainly fall within WP:AGF; however, the persistence when other editors expressed disapproval of such edits crosses the line of good faith in my opinion. I won't attempt to carry out a psychological analysis, I am only concerned about the actions and their impact on the quality of this project. Other editors have to waste their time reverting the edits. I thus believe the IP editor should be finally told in plain language to stop this. kashmiri TALK 12:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- But the "plain language" was not used. Anyway, put it to bed. Faizan 12:31, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- We don't have a warning template for "suppressed Muslim" but we have for someone who persists in damaging articles. One or two such edits would certainly fall within WP:AGF; however, the persistence when other editors expressed disapproval of such edits crosses the line of good faith in my opinion. I won't attempt to carry out a psychological analysis, I am only concerned about the actions and their impact on the quality of this project. Other editors have to waste their time reverting the edits. I thus believe the IP editor should be finally told in plain language to stop this. kashmiri TALK 12:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Again, I really don't see his edits as "Vandalism". He does not know about the WP:MOS, but this does not mean that he is vandalizing moron. I will term him as a suppressed Muslim, he just adds the traditional titles, depicting honor and respect. [12][13][14][15][16][17][18], etc. Were all these vandalism? He ought to be given a welcome message. See his helpful feedback, I am working on it. Faizan 12:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Look at the edit history of that IP editor.[11] Over several months, he/she hasn't made a single meaningful edit to Wikipedia but instead kept adding unnecessary titles and breaking wikilinks all along. Despite all his/her edits being reverted by other editors who explained it was wrong, he/she continues. How would you name such behaviour? kashmiri TALK 12:09, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Sad on this. This was never vandalism. Faizan 11:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
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Ruđer Bošković
What is your problem, Sir? I'm writing you regarding the edit war on Ruđer Bošković's wikipedia article. I have right to claim his Croatian orgin because the listed source clearly says "Two hundred years ago February 13, 1787 the Croatian Jesuit mathematician Roger Boscovich,S.J. died". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rokonja (talk • contribs) 19:48, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- There has been a long discussion on the Talk page, and I suggest you read it all (including the Archives). There are sources available in support of all claims you wish. In any case, the current version of the page, with no reference to "nationality" (it being only a 19th century invention), is a result of long-standing WP:consensus. The article had gone through lots of wars before, please do not start "nationality competition" again. kashmiri TALK 19:54, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- I'm aware of your concern, but i'm not claiming his nationality, i'm claiming his orgin(ethnicity), and those two terms don't refer to same.
Nationality=country where you live Race or people=ethnicity=people to who you belong to, in this case, Croats — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rokonja (talk • contribs) 19:58, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- I suggest you do a bit more research. Would Dalai Lama's nationality be Indian? Or perhaps Chinese? And there can't be Irish people living in US? Also, ethnicity has nothing to do with "belonging" but with ethnic origin. See, it's not really simple and as long you don't fully grasp the topics, I suggest you refrain from editing anything on nationality or ethnicity. Regards, kashmiri TALK 20:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
http://www.studyincroatia.hr/about-croatia/culture/300th-anniversary-of-the-birth-of-rudjer-josip-boskovic/rudjer-boskovic-full-biography Der Grosse Brockhaus Diccionario historico de la Compania de Jesus. 4. Bd., Rom/Madrid 2001. Baugert, W.: A History of the Society of Jesus. St Louis 1976. MacDonnell, J.: Jesuit Geometers. St Louis 1989. O'Malley, J.W. et al. (ed.): The Jesuits. Cultures, Sciences and the Arts, 1540-1773. Toronto 1999. Whyte, L.L. (ed.): Roger John Boscovich SJ, FRS, 1711-1787. Studies of his Life and Work. 1961. Gill, H. V.: Roger Boscovich SJ, Forerunner of Modern Physical Theories. Dublin 1941.
They all refer to him as a Croatian. At the time he was born, Dubrovnik was a Republic, but people living in that Republic were Croats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rokonja (talk • contribs) 01:45, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
- As I said, there is a long-standing consensus not to delve into the guy's ethnicity, nationality, etc., in the lead section, and I only ask that you respect it. Regards, kashmiri TALK 08:54, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Removal of my company from MDM page
Kashmiri, can I ask why you keep deleting MaaS360 from the mobile device management page, but every other vendor is left alone? We are one of the top 6 vendors for MDM as recognized by Gartner's Magic Quadrant, revenue and user base.
We have respectfully not created a page for ourselves because we did not want to sully Wikipedia's mantra of open information. All of our competitors have not had that same respect. Even Wikipedia says it at the top of their pages (these pages appear to be promotional).
I understand you are a volunteer and I appreciate the work you do. However, our removal without removing all of the MDM vendors comes across as biased and arbitrary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robpatey (talk • contribs) 20:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- I told you already: read WP:WTAF and WP:ELNO. Wikipedia is not for promotion, and since you now admitted that this was your company, you additionally have WP:CONFLICT OF INTEREST. By editing that article you are putting yourself in violation of Wikipedia policy. Regards, kashmiri TALK 20:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Kashmiri I'm not stupid I know what you told me. However you are delusional if you think all of the other vendors listed were not put on there by the company's respective marketing departments. Please remove "There are multiple vendors such as AppTec, BlackBerry, Notify Technology, SAP Afaria, Mcafee, MobileIron, AirWatch, AppSense, Citrix, Sophos and Good Technology which offer MDM capabilities" if you are going to remove us as well. Or please add us - a company like Good doesn't even offer MDM they offer contanerized email if we really want to talk abour purity of information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robpatey (talk • contribs) 20:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- Other vendors listed here have their own entries on Wikipedia - hence I said: write the article first. Other than that, I'd be more than happy to get rid of the entire vendor list as it now serves little purpose except product/service marketing. I'll think about justification and delete it. kashmiri TALK 20:55, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Kashmiri
A bowl of strawberries for you!
How do you do dear? My regrets for BLA episode. I ought not to revert all of your edit. Regards. Faizan 08:58, 29 June 2013 (UTC) |
Speedy deletion declined: File:Noor Zaman Naqshbandi Shazli.jpg
Hello Kashmiri. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of File:Noor Zaman Naqshbandi Shazli.jpg, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 12:08, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Major edits based on religious sympathies and deletion of facts
Hi, I have the Mubasshir Luqman page on my watchlist and you have been continuously removing major chunks of this article. At first I accepted your premise of improving the page but then I noticed you persistently keep deleting a specific & also important section. A search of Mr Luqman on the internet shows that this particular incident was an important part of his early journalistic career and as an important event in his professional career it cannot be left out of this article. In your reply you have also shown inadvertently that you might belong to this same sect. After doing a search on the net about Qadyanis and the religious tensions associated with them I have come to realize you might be compromised because of your personal religious beliefs as you have personally said so. Therefore I do not trust that you are neutral in this matter and I also believe that you are deliberately removing facts and important sections from this article because of your personal religious beliefs. As you know, wikipedia is an open representation of facts. This is above religious or other affiliations. You are welcomed to contribute based on your beliefs and tendencies but deletion of facts about real life events or personalities is equivalent to distortion. As an old editor of wikipedia, I cannot accept this. I have reported this incident to the mods as I believe your edits are not good faith. Please respond to the mod here: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Materialscientist#Continuous_non_good_faith_edits.2C_possibly_motivated_by_religious_sympathies I hope you will leave religious affiliations out of wikipedia. Thanks. Dr Pukhtunyar Afghan (talk) 05:16, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hi,
- Please refrain from second-guessing my religion or personal beliefs – please read WP:PERSONAL.
- If you are so bitter about deleting information about a citizen filing a petition in a local court which was dismissed, please take time to read the relevant policy on WP:BLPCRIME.
- I shortened the "Mediagate" part to two sentences as the story is covered extensively in a separate article, linked appropriately and well-sourced (not to personal blogs as in your WP:POV version) – do you have any specific problem with that?
- The appropriate place for any discussion on this article is yours, mine, or this article's talk page; your message to Materialscientist amounts to WP:CANVASSING and is not allowed on Wikipedia.
- Regards, kashmiri TALK 07:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
WP:FFD
Hello, I commented on the deletion discussion of File:Technoviking.jpg. thanks for your attention. regards. --Puramyun31 (talk) 09:55, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Syed Noor Zaman
Hello Kashmiri. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Syed Noor Zaman, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: How can it be the same as anything when it has no content? . Thank you. GedUK 12:26, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hi there. Just to let you know that this has been restored now. The G8 criteria about a talk page and no associated page doesn't really apply to Articles for Creation, because they're always created as a talk page (so that new users/IPs can create them). There is a critiera G13 for abandoned AfCs, but only after 6 months of abandonment. Regards, GedUK 12:09, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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Your move at Kamapitha
Your recent activity at Kamapitha, is serious breach of Wikipedias DR policy, look talk:Kamapitha for details. भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 12:40, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have no idea what DR you are talking about – the article is not listed at WP:DRN. As to your pattern of editing, it shows utter disregard to another editor's editing. Can you say, for example, why you reverted changes to formatting,[19] even though they were not related to your content POV? kashmiri TALK 14:01, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- By DR i mean WP:DR, advance formating is part of normal editing. The problem i referring is your last revert in Kamapitha leading to inclusion of a book termed unreliable by RSN (refer talk). भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 14:52, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Moving pages
When moving a page, you also need to move its connected talk page, which you didn't do for open access journal. The article open-access journal now has an empty talk page classifying it as a "redirect class" article. Please have a look. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 17:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Unable to, the target page already existed, only just requested speedy deletion to make place for the move. kashmiri TALK 17:24, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Redirect created, hope it won't interfere with speedy. kashmiri TALK 17:27, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it does interfere, you need to remove the redirect. Usually the admin who performs the deletion will take care of that. Also, you just edited the article replacing all instances of either "open access" or "Open Access" with "open-access". Some of the capitalized cases were titles and need to remain capitalized (and should reflect the hyphenation as used in the original source). Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 17:36, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- I paid attention not to replace when used in titles but will look again, thanks. Redirect removed.kashmiri TALK 17:39, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Please don't replace perfectly good citation templates (that took a lot of effort to create) with "cite doi" templates. The latter ones have many undesirable characteristics (for example, if the journal name is wikilinked, it will be bolded when used in the article of the journal itself) and, being independent templates that nobody watches, are targets for difficult to see vandalism. Thanks.
- Well, there has been a lot of discussion on doi templates (including the broader issue of storing data in the Template namespace). "Vandalism target" sounds catchy - but it is very unlikely IMHO in view of the vandalism patterns (the bold journal title issue does not apply to the majority of articles). Sill, in my opinion, considering the amount of time it takes to create a standard "cite" template, advantages of cite doi greatly outweigh the remote risk of vandalism or other issues.
- The majority of citations in this article were not properly formatted - I went on to use cite doi as it is prone to errors possibly introduced by "replace all" which was run by me and another editor earlier. kashmiri TALK 18:17, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- I disagree and you should at least have left those that were correct alone. Also, on the matter of the hyphen, I'm not sure that you're right in moving this page: Directory of Open Access Journals, Berlin Declaration on Open Access to Knowledge in the Sciences and Humanities, Bethesda Statement on Open Access Publishing, Budapest Open Access Initiative, Global Open Access Forum, Open Access Scholarly Publishers Association, Registry of Open Access Repositories, Social Science Open Access Repository... --Randykitty (talk) 18:38, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- No hyphen should be used in proper names (i.e, between capitalised words). Else, its compulsory - open-access Wiki, open-access network, open-access road, open-access resource, open-access repositories, list of open-access projects, list of open-access journals, etc. etc. Just have a look at article excerpts here [20] to see the usage. As to citation, only one was formatted correctly, so I went for consistency. kashmiri TALK 19:21, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Although I think you are acting in good faith by restoring the hyphen, I think it is incorrect. You say that 'No hyphen should be used in proper names (i.e, between capitalised words). Else, its compulsory'. While this is what the Wikipedia manual of style recommends, the MOS is itself a guideline because nothing is compulsory when it comes to grammar. Without wishing to delve in to an argument about descriptive linguistics, language is created by its usage and an encyclopedia must reflect that usage. As an academic librarian undertaking research into open access, I have to say that the phrase is rarely hyphenated these days. As as example see this recent Jisc conference at the British Library; the website uses 'open access monographs', not 'open-access monographs'. See also the definition given by DOAJ. Lawsonstu (talk) 15:22, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- No hyphen should be used in proper names (i.e, between capitalised words). Else, its compulsory - open-access Wiki, open-access network, open-access road, open-access resource, open-access repositories, list of open-access projects, list of open-access journals, etc. etc. Just have a look at article excerpts here [20] to see the usage. As to citation, only one was formatted correctly, so I went for consistency. kashmiri TALK 19:21, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- I disagree and you should at least have left those that were correct alone. Also, on the matter of the hyphen, I'm not sure that you're right in moving this page: Directory of Open Access Journals, Berlin Declaration on Open Access to Knowledge in the Sciences and Humanities, Bethesda Statement on Open Access Publishing, Budapest Open Access Initiative, Global Open Access Forum, Open Access Scholarly Publishers Association, Registry of Open Access Repositories, Social Science Open Access Repository... --Randykitty (talk) 18:38, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Please don't replace perfectly good citation templates (that took a lot of effort to create) with "cite doi" templates. The latter ones have many undesirable characteristics (for example, if the journal name is wikilinked, it will be bolded when used in the article of the journal itself) and, being independent templates that nobody watches, are targets for difficult to see vandalism. Thanks.
- I paid attention not to replace when used in titles but will look again, thanks. Redirect removed.kashmiri TALK 17:39, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it does interfere, you need to remove the redirect. Usually the admin who performs the deletion will take care of that. Also, you just edited the article replacing all instances of either "open access" or "Open Access" with "open-access". Some of the capitalized cases were titles and need to remain capitalized (and should reflect the hyphenation as used in the original source). Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 17:36, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Redirect created, hope it won't interfere with speedy. kashmiri TALK 17:27, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- I beg to disagree, and in more than one point. Firstly, I agree I was not very clear with saying "compulsory" - Wikipedia's entire Manual of Style is only a guideline and is not compulsory in any way. However, the English spelling has its rules outside of Wikipedia, and while the language is created by usage, spelling usually is governed by certain rules (which by the way are developed and codified by linguists, not librarians). For instance, despite the common usage, there, their and they're should be differentiated in spelling.
- Over the last 10 minutes or so I have been trying to Google up a high-quality source with more than cursory mention of the relevant rule along with a handful of examples; the best I got till now is [21]. Also, Cambridge Dictionary is consistent in hyphenated attributives - [22], [23], [24], etc., etc.
- That's the reason why I decided to undo your page rename. For the future, it would be helpful if you proposed such renames on the Talk page before carrying it out, especially when it is from a long-standing spelling version and/or goes against WP:MOS – so that other editors have a chance to comment. Regards, kashmiri TALK 20:31, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm still not convinced about the hyphen, but I take your point about proposing name changes on the article's talk page first. That's a good idea. Lawsonstu (talk) 20:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Faz shah
Hi Kashmiri My edits were not for any promotional purpose but very informative of how the Syeds from Sammara Iraq are settled in Kasmir with their tombs in mirpur and Dina. I'm sorry that you had to delete edits just try to provide information to Wikipedia users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faz.shah (talk • contribs) 02:04, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kashmiri thanks for the advise will ensure that full citation is provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faz.shah (talk • contribs) 17:58, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kashmiri thanks for the advise will ensure that full citation is provided. I'm still learning !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faz.shah (talk • contribs) 17:59, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kasmiri I read the help on table you advised me on but couldn't figure it out. I wonder if you would insert it for me in the list of shrines and moseulums of Pakistan. Like to add : moseulum of Hazrat Syed Hassan Shah badshah passed away in 1945 located in village Madukalus Dina Punjan Pakistan Thanks mate your the best Faz Faz.shah (talk) 18:14, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
This magazine has a long and respectable history. It is incorrect, as you wrote in Society of Biology that it was established in 2012: The March 2012 issue is marked "Volume 59 No 1". There must be sources about this publication and the stub merits to be expanded, which is why I just cleaned it up and didn't redirect it to the journal article. --Randykitty (talk) 10:38, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out, reverted. Still, the amount of information currently at The Biologist does not yet warrant a separate article IMHO. kashmiri TALK 10:44, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. And you're absolutely right about the current state of the article of course (somebody else has just PRODded it). I have no time right now, but have pinged the editor who created the stub. Hopefully he'll be able to add some stuff. --Randykitty (talk) 13:34, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, Could you look at the latest version of the lede in Talk:Kamapitha#Definition_of_Kamapitha. Thanks. Chaipau (talk) 12:28, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- Just looking, very sorry for taking so long. kashmiri TALK 09:16, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
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Language Map of Khyber Pukhtunkhwa
Hi Kashmiri, the map that was there is something that a four year old would draw with a crayon, a person who knows a little bit about pakistan and languages spoken there would know that it is inaccurate, biased and of very bad quality. What would you do if someone painted the entire kashmir valley as following hindu religion when we know that most of the population over there are muslims. We do not have any source for it on hand but we know as a matter of general knowledge that muslims make up majority of the population in Kashmir valley. Similarly, we know that most people in Karak, Buner, Shangla, Battagram, Kohat, Tooghar, Tank, Musakhel, and Killa Abdullah speaks pashto while the said maps (by the same author, without qouting any source) show them as speaking other languages, mostly hindko and saraiki. We should delete the said maps form wikipedia commons aswell. Tigerkhan007 (talk) 11:26, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. I suggest that instead of replacing one wrong map with another wrong (WP:OR) map you try to find a reliable source - a book, an article, etc. - on languages of KPK and just draft a map exactly as it is in the source, and quoting the source. Edit warring in articles is not the right thing to do.
- As to the current map, I will comment at Commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Map_of_languages_of_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa.jpg. Regards, kashmiri TALK 11:40, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, also i can assure you that i have read extensively on the subject and any research done on the subject would find the map i am proposing to be spot on. regards Tigerkhan007 (talk) 11:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
- No, it is not for other research to confirm your map; it is your map that should follow the existing research. See, Wikipedia is not to describe how things are (or an editor believes they are) but rather how things are reported in sources. A reliable source is needed for the map you propose. kashmiri TALK 11:51, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks kashmiri, you keep yourself pretty bussy dont you Tigerkhan007 (talk) 21:01, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Dear Kashmiri, Although you have undone my chnages, when i know for sure that pashto is the main languge of Tank District, where does it say that saraiki is the main language? what is the source for that?, Moreover, you have also ignored the ethnologue map. Regards Tigerkhan007 (talk) 05:55, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- 1. Go through article history and check what exactly I restored. 2. Wikipedia does not care what "you know for sure", read WP:OR. 3. The Ethnologue map does not show district borders, we are not allowed to guess them. kashmiri TALK 09:38, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
lalu prasad yadav
Sir, i edited lalu prasad yadav's page and in that i added that he recently in massive rally launched his two sons but i got to know that you removed it but i am just telling about his move in the politics ,there is nothing negative. Your convincing reply is desired.THANK YOU — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raju ranjan raj 007 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a politician's diary nor a newspaper, and in my opinion your information was not really important enough to be included in LYP's biography. It could go to articles about his sons if they exist. Additionally, anything that goes into a live article should be 100% correct with regard to grammar, punctuation and capitalisation, and your text failed, sorry! Regards, kashmiri TALK 17:54, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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Bcha
Paper pr chahe jo mrzi likh le saraikistan ek khwaab tha or khwaab rhega. Baap ki olad hay to lay kr dikhao 39.47.190.237 (talk) 15:24, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
- Khwaabon ke bare me likhnaa yahan manaa nahin hai. Paper jalane se idea ghaib nahin hota. kashmiri TALK 17:48, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Citation templates
I just noticed that you have created at least two pages as citation templates, quite literally:
Why? I question whether we should be cluttering up Wikipedia with such templates. Create the template and use it in the article. Period. -- Brangifer (talk) 05:24, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, this has been a subject of heated debate since DOI bot came into existence. Myself, I was always favouring use of citation templates - personally I think academic sources should even be integrated in Wikidata. The templates you mention were created automatically when I entered {{cite doi}} template in the article code. I think we also differ in our definition of "cluttering". Regards, kashmiri TALK 12:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Burzynski
You reverted the fact that his claimed Ph.D. is unverifiable. Perhaps you're not aware: it was almost certainly not a Ph.D. because Medical University of Lublin does not appear to have awarded that qualification at that time. I might have been a D.MSc. or similar, but the only source for the claim - literally, the only source - is a fax supplied by Burzynski and purporting to come from a person at Lublin. I don't think it's at all clear cut, and that's what the Quackwatch article said. I am pretty familiar with this subject, and as an admin I'm not given to random hatchet jobs. Guy (Help!) 20:25, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hi JzG, the Medical University of Lublin conferred doctorate in medical science since 1945 and doctorate in pharmaceutical sciences since 1962[25]. Doctorate in medical science is equivalent to the degree Doctor of Medicine which according to its Wikipedia entry is "equivalent to Ph.D."
- Certainly, I cannot vouch that Burzynski has indeed obtained a tertiary degree; this can only be confirmed by the university. There was no separate biochemistry doctorate at the University at the time, although I imagine it was possible to do a biochemistry specialisation within the pharmacology degree. However, since no sources seem to question his academic credentials (unless you can offer one), expressing doubts in them in a Wikipedia article felt slightly WP:OR to me. Hope you agree. Regards, kashmiri TALK 20:47, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, it was almost certainly a D.MSc. That's not a Ph.D. I think his academic credentials are questioned (see Orac / David Gorski's writing on the subject), and there is a difference between MD and PhD (MD is not a research doctorate, as such, at least not in the same sense) but it was of course long enough ago that his lack of a significant research career since would be much more relevant. I'd be inclined to say he was awarded a doctorate, which is completely accurate. I don't like "earned" because it's a value judgment (see the Bogdanov affair). Well, there's some relevance I guess: his claims to a Ph.D. are clearly false since the university did not award them at that time. That indicates playing fast and loose with facts, but frankly we hardly need more evidence of that with this guy! Guy (Help!) 22:37, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- JzG: I am sorry I have no idea what D.MSc. is, that's not an acronym I am recognising, Google search does not help, either. The only tertiary degrees in Poland are doctorate in medical science - a professional title equivalent to British (and American?) MD; and "simple" doctorate - an academic title broadly equivalent to PhD in non-medical subjects. I am fine with replacing PhD with MD in the article if you prefer, although I don't see this would change much due to incompatibility between Polish/European and American degrees. To the best of my knowledge, "earning a degree" is a valid phrase in English, although I agree it is slightly idiomatic - can be changed to "received a degree" or "was awarded a degree" if you prefer. BTW, what further career is expected after a doctorate? kashmiri TALK 22:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Doctorate in medical science is D.MSc, in the sources I've read. For a Ph. D. A normal career would include numerous publications in reliable journals; Burzynski has a few case studies. His output indicates a non-research tertiary degree. His career, by contrast, strongly suggests a rapacious quack, sadly. Guy (Help!) 23:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- So would D.MSc. be the same as Doctorate in Medicine (MD)? Regular publishing is "normal" only when a person is employed by a school or university and a specific number of publications per year form a part of their contract (unfortunately, that's how it is these days). Those who run their own businesses do not have such obligations and can publish whenever they want. Is it only me who does not find it strange? Also, making judgements about people's character based on their CVs goes slightly too far IMHO. kashmiri TALK 23:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Doctorate in medical science is D.MSc, in the sources I've read. For a Ph. D. A normal career would include numerous publications in reliable journals; Burzynski has a few case studies. His output indicates a non-research tertiary degree. His career, by contrast, strongly suggests a rapacious quack, sadly. Guy (Help!) 23:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- JzG: I am sorry I have no idea what D.MSc. is, that's not an acronym I am recognising, Google search does not help, either. The only tertiary degrees in Poland are doctorate in medical science - a professional title equivalent to British (and American?) MD; and "simple" doctorate - an academic title broadly equivalent to PhD in non-medical subjects. I am fine with replacing PhD with MD in the article if you prefer, although I don't see this would change much due to incompatibility between Polish/European and American degrees. To the best of my knowledge, "earning a degree" is a valid phrase in English, although I agree it is slightly idiomatic - can be changed to "received a degree" or "was awarded a degree" if you prefer. BTW, what further career is expected after a doctorate? kashmiri TALK 22:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, it was almost certainly a D.MSc. That's not a Ph.D. I think his academic credentials are questioned (see Orac / David Gorski's writing on the subject), and there is a difference between MD and PhD (MD is not a research doctorate, as such, at least not in the same sense) but it was of course long enough ago that his lack of a significant research career since would be much more relevant. I'd be inclined to say he was awarded a doctorate, which is completely accurate. I don't like "earned" because it's a value judgment (see the Bogdanov affair). Well, there's some relevance I guess: his claims to a Ph.D. are clearly false since the university did not award them at that time. That indicates playing fast and loose with facts, but frankly we hardly need more evidence of that with this guy! Guy (Help!) 22:37, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
GURJAR
Mr. Kashmiri, Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the page Gurjar has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. ,,,,Your recent editing history at Gurjar shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse. YOu can not judge the difference between right and wrong. Samrat Mihir Bhoja image was displayed on Gurjar since last 4 years with proper references and lots of debate already done in this regard. You can not change images by feeling yourself a right work. welcome for debate and argue for present references. Lots of efforts has been madeto improve this Gurjar Wikipedia with Editor like Chhora, Ashok Harsana, AP Singh, all are prominent historian and have better knowledge than you. Are you reverting yourself or i forward the request to admin for your behavior. Gurjeshwar (talk) 03:25, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
'Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Do not remove the authentic images of Gurjar personalities and contents from Gurjar wikipedia. Please debate before to edit this article. This is not the matter of choice that you previous version is much better. Samrat Mihir Bhoja image was displayed on Gurjar Wiki since last 4 years. Then why you are reverting this without telling a perfect reasons. This is objectionable. Thanks Gurjeshwar (talk) 03:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Gurjeshwar: The images were removed by another editor whose justification I found sound. On the other hand, you offered no reason when you undid the changes, except that the fact images have been there for a long time, and V Patel is a known person. See, this is an encyclopaedia, it is constantly edited and improved by various editors who have full right to add and remove images. Other editors felt that the images violated WP principles, so they removed them. I second that, and you should comply. You are not the owner of that article. Regards, kashmiri TALK 13:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- {{|Kashmiri}}:: I & other writers was regularly observing your and other writers activity specially on Gurjar article. You have also removed the images of Mihir Bhoja and Sardar Vallabh Bhaiu Patel. Mr. Gurjeshwar efforts to improve this article seems right as he has provided many citation in support of contents. At Wikipedia, information should not be biased and manipulative, as you are trying with other writers and convinced the admin for 3RR error for Mr. Gurjeshwar. You may not be convinced but majority of writers and viewers are convinced with citation in Gurjar wiki. So i request you not to remove any content and images in future.
RoyalGurjar (talk) 13:22, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Indicscripts
FYI, WP:INDICSCRIPTS only applies to 1) Indicscripts (not Urdu / Persio-Arabic), 2) WikiProject India only topics (Not WikiProject Pakistan topics or overlapping topics). Clarification here. Please do not remove native scripts from topics that are also under the scope of other projects and are subject to a much wider predominant, unaltered, consensus. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:47, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- TopGun: OK, thanks for the link. When restoring scripts to the article, please add Ladakhi, Shina and Balti - languages officially spoken in Kargil district; and Kashmiri (written in Nastaliq, but feel free to add Nagari) - the official language of the Kashmir Valley. Also, could you correct the Hindi transliteration because it was wrong? It will also be good to remove languages from Kargil district because unlike Kargil war it does not fall within the scope of other projects than India. Or, was it "consensus" that they stayed there so long? Regards, kashmiri TALK 14:02, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- No problem. I don't really have any view about the district article. If no other Wikiproject is interested in working on it, obviously it would come under the indicscripts consensus and you can remove it (if it stayed there long was because no body wanted to do the effort to remove it). About the languages, although I can understand 90% Hindi since it is mutually intelligible with Urdu, it is not at all comprehensible to me in its written form, so I guess you will have to ask an Indian editor. I do not speak the local Kashmiri languages either. --lTopGunl (talk) 14:56, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- J&K, another instance.. left a talkpage message on article. --lTopGunl (talk) 02:07, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- @TopGun: Nope, disagree, and revisited the discussion again. Read again: the discussion was about "India-related articles" and "Pakistan-related articles", and not about Wikiproject tags. India-only related geographic names - that is, localities which have been only on Indian territory - should thus follow WP:INDICSCRIPT guidelines - irrespective whether other projects (like WP:Pakistan or WP:Central Asia) express interest in the article and tag them. Neither Kargil nor J&K (per definition in article) was ever in Pakistan, so WP:INDICSCRIPTS definitely applies there. Also interesting why Urdu spelling should be added when Urdu is only one of three official languages of the state, and spoken as mother tongue by a tiny minority? kashmiri TALK 02:24, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Hamza Yusuf
Dear Kashmiri, On what basis are you reverting?!? Are the quote and explanation not valid? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirriasrar (talk • contribs) 00:32, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Read WP:CONSENSUS. Other editors explained to you there (Talk:Hamza Yusuf), so I see no point of elaborating any further. kashmiri TALK 00:39, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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I think I fixed the citations that were incorrect. Let me know on what page I messed up and I will fix them too!
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Per WP:LEAD
The lead is supposed to summarize the article. Have expanded amyotrophic lateral sclerosis so that it does a better job doing this. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:19, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- User:Doc James I regret that you just reverted my work. LEDE should only summarise the most important points, and not everything what is below. I think the history of the discovery of ALS is of little relevance to the describing what ALS is and should be reduced to one short sentence at most ("The disorder was first described by ... in the year ..."). Debate on motor neurone disease should be definitely taken out of LEDE, it's confusing at best.
- I considered certain phrases wrong/misleading and I don't really understand why you reintroduced them. For example, "directly inherited from parents" is not very fortunate (because this sort of puts the fault on parents; I'd prefer talking about inherited mutations or hereditary causes without specifying from whom - mutations are usually passed down several generations; also, de novo mutations do occur where ancestors are not to blame); besides, is it possible to inherit a condition from parents other than "directly"? Then, saying "there is no clear cause" is an existential statement - correctly, we can only say that causes are not currently known/identified rather than "they are not there". You have again spread natural history between two distant paragraphs (and same to epidemiology and pathophysiology), removing logical flow that I tried to add to the lede. Sorry I can't sound more appreciating. Regards, kashmiri TALK 22:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes some good points. Have adjusted further. The lead is supposed to be about 3 or 4 paragraphs. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
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Please note that Sultan-ul-Arifeen is about a title, which was used by many people, and not about any particular person. Your continuous forcing Hamza Makhdoom, He is a Kashmiri Saint and you are a Kashmiri person, your are trying to specifies this title for him, that is why you again and again tagging it, I consider all three in my edit, if you know about other saints using this title enter them here with references Mrashid364 (talk) 17:15, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
You appear to be facing something fishy
I don't think we've encountered each other before, but I couldn't help but notice that you seem to be having some trouble. You may have noticed that the Special:Contributions/Mrashid364, Special:Contributions/Ayesha_Nb and Special:Contributions/Nainntara accounts all seem to have been created within two days of each other while Special:Contributions/Punjabsind82 was created a few days ago solely to support them. Special:Contributions/JugniSQ is a few months older but is editing the same exact articles.
Have you considered looking into this further and seeing if there is any meat puppetry involved? MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:13, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- @MezzoMezzo: Thanks, really appreciated someone noticed that as well as I was about to give up. I would add User:Neyn here, I am more than sure there is a small sock farm here, although my feeling is it's not a single editor. User:Mrashid364 is the oldest account, started in July 2012. Neyn, started in May 2014, has been a sleeper since this September until I touched Sultan ul Arifeen which was "his" article. I then proposed AfD for a couple of articles - and then a whole farm of sock- or meatpuppets appeared, lead by Mrashid364 alternating with Neyn. Don't know, I sort of gave up, I don't want to waste time on edit wars. An SPI would be a fair thing to do, although I am not sure I feel like going through all the history and justifying it for admins... Any thoughts? Regards, kashmiri TALK 19:19, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'm somewhat busy today, but I am willing to devote time to this tomorrow if you promise not to give up. I have no prior involvement in this but I've seen this kind of nonsense a lot over the years and it bothers me greatly. Wikipedia is an incredible site and people have no right to try to cash in on it, which is what I'm seeing. I can do the compiling of both the evidence of meat/sockpuppetry as well as the personal attacks, as some of the accounts are now going on to random talk pages and basically just talking bad about you (without letting you know, of course). Making statements such as mine aren't to be taken lightly, but I am 99% certain that there is something inappropriate going on with these accounts. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:07, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- @MezzoMezzo: Thanks man! Over years, I have also reported a fair number of sockpuppetry cases, some small, but also unbelievably large sock farms, numbering hundreds of socks. That's tedious work, but at least one learns to spot such users instantly. This one looks pretty easy, as the socks even admitted it somewhere. If you file a SPI, let me know please so that I can add my comments. Otherwise, let me know and might find time and energy in a few days to do it. BTW, did you see there is a new arrival in the herd: User:Dannywiki1? Already trying to mess up in Makhdoom. Regards, kashmiri TALK 17:55, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- He just managed to get Hamza Makhdoom deleted by an unsuspecting admin. kashmiri TALK 18:16, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
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Reply To Your Claim After my research on your edit history, I can confidently state that the edit war actually begun with you since 31st December 2014 initially at the article Sultan-ul-Arifeen. This edit war was not limited to one page but spread amonsgt other articles. This edit war was in fact not only against a school of thought but also against a holy saint, publication, organization, etc. Let me clarify, thousands of followers exist for any school of thought and by targeting these articles, you targetted a school of thought and hence, its followers. If you think, it is easy to let go of such negative steps which you have taken, it is not. The followers would obviously respond to your arguments and it’s upto them how each one responds. This trend is spreading quickly amongst the followers of that school of thought.
Also, User:kashmiri, User:MezzoMezzo, User:Shii and User:Раціональне анархіст you all have teamed up for deleting and placing negative arguments for a particular set of articles. This can also go against you can be declared as Sockpuppets. Editing on merit is acceptable and editing on bias is not acceptable and in fact you can be blocked for edit warring.
Hence, I advise you to take a step back from all this edit war which you have started and save yourself from the energy of editing articles about whch you should have nothing to do due to your lack of knowledge with regard to the topics. Wikipedia is free for all to edit and the followers of any school of thought will never accept people editing or changing their articles as per their own likes and dislikes. I am waiting for your positive response.
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- @W.white273: You have only listed four of like-minded editors? What about the checkusers that investigated your socks, and all the admins that oversaw the process? You know how much time so many people had to spend on defending the quality of this project from your disruptive editing?
- Wikipedia is free to edit but it has its set of WP:RULES that must be adhered to - and you have edited in breach of these rules. Not everything is suitable to be placed on Wikipedia - please read what Wikipedia is not. I think, Neyn, there is no point to discuss with you any further because you clearly don't want to read or understand the policies of this website, despite being told and sanctioned many times. kashmiri TALK 12:12, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
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Dear Kashmiri,
A certain someone has a write up concerning his past that is deeply affecting him today. Please allow me to make changes to his page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.133.32.3 (talk) 08:21, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
- @221.133.32.3: Sorry, I am not getting it. Could you be clearer please? kashmiri TALK 10:12, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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Western Sahara in List of country calling codes
I removed the Flag of Polisario from the List of country calling codes because the status of Western Sahara is not defined and the territory de jure does not belong neither to Polisario nor to Morocco. The neutral form is to put the name of the territory only. Wimmiden (talk) 16:15, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Wimmiden: The flag of Western Sahara is controlled by Template:Country data Western Sahara, you are more than welcome to raise the issue there - but be aware that the matter has been discussed in length at Country data Western Sahara, so I don't see much chances your proposal will meet with much success. I am reverting for now. kashmiri TALK 16:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Burzynski Clinic. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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Request for feedback
Some time back you placed COI and peacock tags at the George M. Church article, for clear reasons. I am wondering if you might return briefly to that article, and assist in a small way. We have persuaded Profs Church and Wu to edit via Talk suggestions, rather than directly, and this is working out. Some of their suggestions are taken, but many are not/cannot be, and they seem to be growing in the understanding of the process, and of WP policy expectations. For this set of positives steps—6 weeks of working alongside, without direct COI edits—I took the step to remove the COI tag today.
I would next like to begin to address the peacock issues, and here is where I would like to ask your assistance. Could you take a little time, whatever you can spare, and start a Talk section at that article, and begin a list of peacock issues to be investigated? A format like:
- Section XYZ:
- "here is some text wherein I call myself the 'King of the World' "
would be very helpful, because I can come in and, one-by-one, fix them, and indicate having done so with Done. Could you give that article a bit of time, listing places where you see peacock text? Cheers, Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 23:27, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @Leprof 7272:, thanks, I will gladly go through the article. I will only have time towards the end of this week, would that be all right? kashmiri TALK 08:05, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
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Hello Kashmiri. Is okay if I send you a Wikipedia-Email re Burzynski Clinic article? Thank you, IHTS (talk) 05:04, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Ihardlythinkso: Sure! I might not be able to look into this closer for a few days - busy time - but will try respond asap. kashmiri TALK 08:02, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
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Dear User, Kindly read [26] and there are many such links if you want, Indic script from place names should not be deleted according to consensus made. Thank you. --Vtk1987 (talk) 15:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Vtk1987: Sorry, that's only your private discussion with another editor and has nothing to do with community-wide consensus. If you feel that the community decision should be reviewed please propose this at the Wikiproject India. Until such a decision is formally made please do not revert, or you will risk a block. Regards, kashmiri TALK 18:18, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Found it!!
Wikipedia guidelines mentioning use of "local language" in lead of City names. read here] on Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cities.--Human3015 talk • 04:41, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- This Wikiproject page does not override the RFC - precisely, it is the other way round. If you think an exception to the RFC is warranted, feel free to raise it at the WikiProject India. I will follow the consensus. kashmiri TALK 17:49, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Those are guidelines given for writing lead, WP:IndicScript don't have rfc or consensus, those are also guidelines. Thank you. --Human3015 talk • 17:56, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- As I said, do not argue with me, it was not me who came up with the rules of editing Wikipedia. The RfC is there, it was closed and summarised, please do not ask me to post the links again, you have them all under WP:INDICSCRIPTS. If you don't like it, propose a change at WT:IN. Until the previous consensus is overriden by a new one, it remains binding. kashmiri TALK 18:02, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- I think Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cities are binding on everyone regarding cities. Personal opinions are not welcomed on Wikipedia. Kindly stick to rules. Thank you. --Human3015 talk • 19:09, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Wikiproject pages are not binding, RfC's are. Personal opinions are very welcome as long as they are not disruptive. EOT. kashmiri TALK 19:10, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thats again your personal opinion that your personal opinion is not disruptive. Anyway, leave it. Cheers.--Human3015 talk • 19:25, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Wikiproject pages are not binding, RfC's are. Personal opinions are very welcome as long as they are not disruptive. EOT. kashmiri TALK 19:10, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- I think Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cities are binding on everyone regarding cities. Personal opinions are not welcomed on Wikipedia. Kindly stick to rules. Thank you. --Human3015 talk • 19:09, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- As I said, do not argue with me, it was not me who came up with the rules of editing Wikipedia. The RfC is there, it was closed and summarised, please do not ask me to post the links again, you have them all under WP:INDICSCRIPTS. If you don't like it, propose a change at WT:IN. Until the previous consensus is overriden by a new one, it remains binding. kashmiri TALK 18:02, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Those are guidelines given for writing lead, WP:IndicScript don't have rfc or consensus, those are also guidelines. Thank you. --Human3015 talk • 17:56, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
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- Hi @Human3015:, I am very sorry but I don't really speak the language :/ kashmiri TALK 22:46, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Kashmiri - I noticed in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faqr-e-Iqbal (2nd nomination) that you commented that the main contributor is required to abstain from voting. That is, in fact, not true - the author of the article can make his/her case like everyone else. See Wikipedia:Guide to deletion#Discussion for a brief note about this. I would actually argue that the creator and main contributors have the most valuable opinions in these discussions as they obviously put in some time to create or improve an article, so they must think it's worth something. I hope this makes sense. Cheers - "Pepper" @ 18:12, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @Pepper:, point taken, will keep it in mind for the future. Regards, kashmiri TALK 19:48, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Sockpuppet investigation
Hi Kashmiri. I saw that you were in the process of providing diff evidence for several suspected sock puppets, but that you haven't followed up on it. Perhaps you have forgotten, so here is a reminder. - HyperGaruda (talk) 17:49, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @HyperGaruda:, thanks for the reminder. Will do it shortly! Regards, kashmiri TALK 18:42, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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Please stop deleting Karachi related articles WikiBulova (talk) 16:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC) You also don't need seperate Kashmir Railway either it should be redirected to Pakistan Railway. WikiBulova (talk) 16:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- @WikiBulova: I am not deleting anything. You create promotional articles that duplicate 70% of the content of existing articles, mostly by copy and paste. Me and other editors tried to point you out that this is unnecessary and goes against Wikipedia policies, which you are welcome to study. Thank you also to read WP:BRD. Besides, I fail to understand the connection between Kashmir Railway and your Karachi articles. kashmiri TALK 16:45, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- I am not surprised since you have also failed to understand Media in Karachi. WikiBulova (talk) 16:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- @WikiBulova: Please undo all your changes to the articles on Kashmir Shaivism I edited, or I am taking the matter to the Administrators. kashmiri TALK 16:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- As you have not done it, I am reverting the changes myself and proceeding with WP:ANI report. kashmiri TALK 17:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- @WikiBulova: Please undo all your changes to the articles on Kashmir Shaivism I edited, or I am taking the matter to the Administrators. kashmiri TALK 16:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- I am not surprised since you have also failed to understand Media in Karachi. WikiBulova (talk) 16:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
What's the difference between them? Primary and secondary? 68.100.166.227 (talk) 01:44, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
: List of Sufi orders is just what it says: a list of Sufi orders. If you want to have a list of most influential Sufi orders, why don't you create a separate article? Otherwise there will be confusion. Please note that the second article should be referenced to reliable sources because we Wikipedians cannot ourselves decide who is influential and who is not. Otherwise, great job to-date, carry on. kashmiri TALK 01:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry didn't notice your title. The first one is supposed to list all the Sufis (I know it may sound funny). The second one has to list all Sufi orders. I have a problem with the second one, because all lists should either be referenced to a source (which will prove that all list items are notable) or should list other Wikipedia articles. But the second list has plenty of red links and unlinked names, and is totally unreferenced. Should be really cleaned up. kashmiri TALK 01:51, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- I think both of them attempts to list Sufis, but the second list contains most of the people from India, and some of the names appears in both of these lists.. There are overlapping parts...
68.100.166.227 (talk) 02:02, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- I guess you are right. I have no problem with combining these lists into a single one. Do you think it would be a good idea? If so, feel free to go ahead, I will support it although I won't have time to do it myself for now. kashmiri TALK 12:23, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Frontiers Media removal of academic editor blog posts
According to his Wikipedia page, Jonathan Eisen "is the academic editor-in-chief of the open access journal PLOS Biology". He probably has a dozen other affiliations in scientific publishing, from a quick google I found Biology Direct, PLoS Computational Biology, Molecular Biology and Evolution, Genome Research, Journal of Molecular Evolution, Microbiology, National Academy of Sciences - Committee on Life Sciences, ASM Communications.
That is what I'd call an "expert" in scientific publishing! (And his blog is called "award winning", and his blogging/twitter activity is even mentioned in Nature: https://dx.doi.org/10.1038%2F4591050a too.)
Dorothy Bishop is listed as "editorial advisor" for "BMC Psychology", as "editorial board / former editor" of "Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry", as "Board of Associate Editors" for "COGNITIVE NEUROPSYCHOLOGY", as "Advisory Editorial Board" for "International Journal of Language & Communication Disorders", and "Editorial board" for "International Journal of Research and Practice"; "Editorial board" for "Applied Psycholinguistics", all with very different publishers. Just a few of her activity that I could find. She clearly has an "expert" opinion on scientific publishing, because she has been doing this for over 20 years. Her blog is also prize-winning: http://goodthinkingsociety.org/winners-of-2012-uk-science-blog-prize/
Clearly, both are highly respected scientists, with award-winning blogs, that serve as editors in many journals. Their low opinion on Frontier is a "reliable source" of Frontiers spam problem.
You may want to reconsider your opinion, otherwise I would suggest a WP:THIRDOPINION --HelpUsStopSpam (talk) 16:49, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- I fully agree that they are scientists in their respoctive fields, their blogs could surely be quoted when discussing matters belonging to biology or psychology. However, the statement you are trying to substatiate has nothing to do with these fields. An IT expert opinion would have more relevance, because in the subject mail spam, a biology professor is as as much of an "expert" as any John Doe.
- See, simply because a known scientist has complained of email does not turn him/her into an authority that should be quoted! Definitely it's not a reliable source for a public encyclopaedia. Please note that "academic editor" is an entirely different job (and skill set) than just "editor". However, I am happy to seek third opinion if you prefer so, although if I could chose I'd rather ask someone uninvolved in this article/topic. Regards, kashmiri TALK 17:04, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- It is about scientific publishing. They are experienced editors, so they are experts on publishing. An IT opinion would be much less relevant in my opinion. Deevy also discusses the problem of "editorial practices", so we might even want to cite her in other places, too. She writes e.g.: "Questions are being raised about the quality of editing and reviewing in Frontiers." --HelpUsStopSpam (talk) 17:11, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Wiki Stalking
Stop stalking me !! You seem to be mean vindictive person !!! WikiBulova (talk) 13:29, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- @WikiBulova: Can I know the reasons of your revert? What does "colwdith" stand for? Note Wikipedia is not your private notepad but a public service that anyone is free to edit and improve, including me. You now seem to deliberately damage wiki coding which is disruptive. kashmiri TALK 13:32, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- Also, new editors sometimes require additional monitoring, I think you should be grateful that someone follows and corrects your mistakes. kashmiri TALK 13:34, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- You have proven to be stalker and mean vindictive person. WikiBulova (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- Read WP:PERSONAL so that you don't get blocked for your comments towards fellow editors. kashmiri TALK 13:38, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- Wiki Stalking is also a serious issue. You can go ahead and report me. That will also expose you as a serial stalker. WikiBulova (talk) 00:37, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- Read WP:PERSONAL so that you don't get blocked for your comments towards fellow editors. kashmiri TALK 13:38, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- You have proven to be stalker and mean vindictive person. WikiBulova (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
please consider the inclusion of page peer Viqar Ul aslam
As now there are solid links like Greater Kashmir link which shows the credibility of sources used and verifies other details, the page is following the guidelines as it provides reliable sources like Greater Kashmir news paper. Please check again and help in including the page, your help is appreciated! Thank you Thewikisquad (talk) 18:14, 17 December 2015 (UTC) Thewikisquad (talk) 18:14, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Thewikisquad: Wikipedia does not include everyone who has ever been mentioned in the press. Every biography here has to fulfil certain criteria which are listed at WP:BIO - I would like to encourage you to read this. For now, I have nominated the article for deletion discussion as I believe the person is not WP:NOTABLE enough for Wikipedia. Let's wait and see what other editors will say. kashmiri TALK 18:17, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Kashmiri: The mentions are from credible source and are for notable achievement of the person, press is a very strong verifier of information. Please tag off the nomination tag and provide some more time to get the article biography requirements fulfilled and also put in more content so that you can review it! As I'm new I will need sometime to add information it will injustice to his page if Its nominated for deletion so quick as I believe that person has a large following and deserved to be on Wikipedia! Please help in making the article more reliable and fit for wiki standards! And also I would request to search the person on YouTube you'll see his TV Interviews and company profile also his key projects First International Android Radio from Kashmir - Cityfmjk that's a notable project and would give him some more credits for that also check his JK Meeqat Project that was featured on National TV : ETV Urdu reputed national news TV. That guy is notable and needs proper place on Wikipedia. Thank You Thewikisquad (talk) 18:51, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Please feel free to leave me message on my talk page, I'm on mobile as soon as I hit on a laptop I'll edit my projects here properly I hope you'll help all the way in making my experience on Wikipedia great!
- And I really appreciate your responses thank you again!
- @Thewikisquad: I understand, and nobody hopefully doubts that the person did what is in the press. However, the person's deeds might be considered insufficient for an encylopaedia article. Moreover, it's always much safer to propose a new article at Articles for Creation, particularly if starting on Wikipedia for the first time, or to draft it first in your own userspace and ask others for comments and improvements. Because what goes to the "live Wikipedia", or mainspace, has to fulfil quite a lot of criteria, failing which it risks being deleted.
- The article is now under deletion discussion which will last 7 days before any decision is made. During this time you are welcome to improve the article - if you believe the person is sure to fulfil all the criteria for NOTABILITY. Regards, kashmiri TALK 20:39, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Also, please keep in mind that you should not edit the article in case you are yourself the article subject or are associated with the article subject, because this is considered conflict of interest. Regards, kashmiri TALK 20:41, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Kashmiri: I understand that and I have a list of random people and articles who I want to update and are all notable people. I have been reading the guidelines for a while now! Thewikisquad (talk) 21:15, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I hope you have taken off the tag and have reviewed the article again as I have edited the articles and made it more precise and with compliance to Wikipedia guidelines. I'll be researching more on the subject and Upload that tomorrow! Thanks Thewikisquad (talk) 21:17, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, an AfD tag once placed cannot be removed. The discussion has to go until end. Please get yourself acquainted with Wikipedia policies before editing! Regards, kashmiri TALK 22:03, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Re. speedy deletion of Zi Corporation
I created this article because IMHO it was an interesting piece of history relating to software patents as well as mobile software. The article has clearly lived a troubled life, so I have restored the real content here: User:Egil/Zi_Corporation As such, I think a speedy deletion should not have been done, do you agree? -- Egil (talk) 12:42, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Egil, not sure about the deletion process - the article did not include any claims to significance. Merely being engaged in lawsuits is not really something that automatically gives right to an encyclopaedia article, and apart from lawsuits the company did not seem to comply with WP:NCORP. So, technically, a speedy deletion was admissible. But you are always free to propose the article at Articles for Creation, or even request undelete (an admin will then look into the matter). Regards, kashmiri TALK 12:49, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Do not keep on tagging my redirects with "Speedy Deletion"
I have noticed that you have been tagging all the redirects I have made with "Speedy Deletion" tags. While I am willing to discuss and justify all redirects I have made, it would be very tedious to do so on my part, and it would be somehow autocratic on your part, if you just keep tagging "Speedy Deletion" without discussing or inquiry. Thank you. THE IMPERIOUS DORK (talk) 17:27, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, yes, the vast majority of your redirects do not comply with WP:REDIR and fall under criteria of speedy deletion as implausible typos. Nobody types or searches for "Pho'o", it is just implausible. Additionally, it is not allowed to do as you did when redirecting song titles an article on an Eurovision contest - as you might know, ALL articles should be notable in order to be included in Wikipedia, that including redirects. Please, please read WP:R, especially WP:R#DELETE points 2 and 8, before you embark on such a pointless redirect creation spree. kashmiri TALK 17:34, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
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I submit
If you wish to keep Islam as a secretive, difficult, and inaccessible religion for the West to study, please, spell everything in ways only a few Muslim "experts" will understand, and refuse to let typical protocol in grammar to enter the article. I submit to the will of Allah (or those who claim to speak for Allah). You have my word, this is the last time I will ever attempt such foolishness here. Scott P. (talk) 13:53, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Scottperry: Oh, why didn't you then move it to mazhab? Mazhab shows twice as many hits as madhab. Spelling discussion aside, this was also about your "moving" pages by copying and pasting. — kashmiri TALK 13:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Scottperry: Also, there are actually only 302 results for madhhab [27] and 360 for madhab [28], so the difference is rather negligible. — kashmiri TALK 14:12, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure how you came up with the low results. If you wanted I could show you links for how I got results in the thousands. As you know, the lack of a simple and widely recognized transliteration system for transliterating Arabic into English quite troublesome. As I see it, this refusal of Muslims to permit simplicity and uniformity in this, is a sort of xenophobic protectionist reflexive act on the part of many Muslims. An attempt to obscure and hide the glory of Islam from outsiders and to keep it only for Arabs. But if that is to be, it is to be. Scott P. (talk) 18:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Did you follow the links I showed you? It's simple, boy, when searching in Google just click "Next" to the right of "Gooooooogle" at the bottom of the results page, and look at the hit count again. See? — kashmiri TALK 19:32, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- In any case, this discussion (1) should be on the topic talk page, and (2) should have been enjoined before renaming the page. Radical changes in Wikipedia require consensus. Grammar'sLittleHelper (talk) 20:27, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Sfarney: Agreed. To be fair, Scottperry initiated such a discussion after he copied and pasted the page text to new title [29], but it got lost after I reverted the "move". — kashmiri TALK 20:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- In any case, this discussion (1) should be on the topic talk page, and (2) should have been enjoined before renaming the page. Radical changes in Wikipedia require consensus. Grammar'sLittleHelper (talk) 20:27, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Did you follow the links I showed you? It's simple, boy, when searching in Google just click "Next" to the right of "Gooooooogle" at the bottom of the results page, and look at the hit count again. See? — kashmiri TALK 19:32, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure how you came up with the low results. If you wanted I could show you links for how I got results in the thousands. As you know, the lack of a simple and widely recognized transliteration system for transliterating Arabic into English quite troublesome. As I see it, this refusal of Muslims to permit simplicity and uniformity in this, is a sort of xenophobic protectionist reflexive act on the part of many Muslims. An attempt to obscure and hide the glory of Islam from outsiders and to keep it only for Arabs. But if that is to be, it is to be. Scott P. (talk) 18:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Reverting edits on Microparticles page
Microparticles page as it stands right now is full of inaccurate and incomplete information. I was attempting to correct it and expand on it. I don't understand why you label my changes "spam." Why do you insist on keeping the incorrect information? I also don't understand why "microspheres" page was removed and now a redirect to "microparticles."MicrosphereExpert (talk) 04:03, 16 January 2016 (UTC)MicrosphereExpert
- @MicrosphereExpert: First, your edits were copied and pasted from a copyrighted source, which is a copyright violation. Second, all your links were to a commercial site that sells microparticles, and to another site run by the same company. This is a clear case of promotion which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Hope this clarifies. — kashmiri TALK 11:54, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Prabuddha Bharata list of contributors
I expect you to understand how important is a list of contributors in a serious journal like Prabuddha Bharata. Any person who is sincerely into academics shall understand that. I believe Wikipedia is not just for casual readers but also for such people who are earnestly into some research and are looking for meaningful articles. Your repetitive act of removing the list is absolutely unnecessary. While 'cleaning pages' I hope you do not let your personal biases influence you, which is presently the case . Nandini2311 (talk) 07:14, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is precisely for casual readers. You have been pointed, by many editors, to a number of Wikipedia policies that your edits keep violating, and I advise you to take time and read them before editing any further. Additionally, read WP:SOCK (you have been pointed this already). — kashmiri TALK 11:58, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Tantra Contributions
Dear Kashmiri, You have deleted my contributions on the grounds that they 'appeared to be promotions'. The goal of Wikipedia is to provide information on a particular topic in an easily accessible way. Prabuddha Bharata is an English monthly journal in its 121st year and has a great reputation in humanities. This journal has brought out a special number on Reflections on Tantra, which has contributions from reputed academics all over the world covering all disciplines of Tantra. Just reading this one issue, readers can have a comprehensive idea of the subject and that is why it was uploaded by me. Did you go through the contents and the brief introductions of the authors who have written there? I suggest that you do that. Just deleting the contributions is not doing any service to the Wikipedia community. Thank you.Sudhavedanta (talk) 02:29, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Dear Sudhavedanta, I did not delete any links to Prabuddha Bharata at Tantra, also you did not add such links - unless you edited as User:ProwlingRaven (but see WP:SOCK if this is the case) and were reverted by Dharmalion76. I believe this journal issue is of value to the topics and can be added, but under "Further reading" and not under "External links" (see WP:EXT for policy). It does contain quite a few interesting articles in English (even if its many articles look at Tantra from hopelessly Advaita point of view, others concern specifically the Ramakrishna Mission, and still others are reprints of 19th century (!) publications).
- As to your edits at Prabuddha Bharata that I actually reverted, (1) the long list of contributors, none of which is individually notable for Wikipedia, violated WP:NLIST; while (2) the poem did not help the readers in the slightest degree to understand what Prabuddha Bharata journal is all about. Wikipedia articles do not normally contain poems – there is a sister project called Wikisource created specifically for this purpose, so feel free to add the poem there and link to it from within the article. Hope this helps. Regards, — kashmiri TALK 12:51, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Dear Kashmiri, All the articles in Prabuddha Bharata are in the English language and include Kashmir Shaivism, Shrividya, Buddhist Tantra, and also Vaishnava Tantra. Please refer to someone qualified in Tantra and you will get the correct feedback. So, please add the issue to the Further Reading column. The list of contributors enables the readers to understand the history of the journal. Please keep in mind the readership and please understand that this journal is very reputed. Just because some people do not understand it cannot make the journal immaterial.Sudhavedanta (talk) 13:12, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Sudhavedanta: Journal added. As to list of contributors, no the list does not enable the readers to understand anything. Readers are not familiar with the majority if not all of those surnames and will only be confused by throwing at them a list of ~50 surnames with no other information. High chances are that most of these names are not even notable enough to be included in Wikipedia – whilst per WP:NLIST, only people with independent notability should be included in embedded lists. Did you see any other journal article on Wikipedia that would list all its contributors? See, for instance, Nature for an example of a quality entry on a well-known journal. — kashmiri TALK 22:56, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Dear Kashmiri, Almost all the entries in the list of contributors have separate Wikipedia entries for their names. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia. All subjects should be covered here and so should be the humanities and social sciences. Prabuddha Bharata is a journal devoted to these disciplines. Not many may know of Rhys Davids, but he has contributed to various fields and has an entry in Wikipedia. So, please do not talk about 'chances'. Please verify before deleting. All these people are experts in their fields. When a person wants to know about a journal, they get a fair idea by seeing the contributors. Journals like Revue Philosophique and Mind may not be popular but are highly respected journals in philosophy. I understand that you want to serve the Wikipedia community by cleaning unwanted elements in entries. So do I. However, if we just clean material without verifying them, we can end up reducing the richness of Wikipedia. Having said that, I understand that it is really cumbersome to scroll down fifty entries. Instead, I can put them in a run-in format, so that the whole list would come in three or four lines. Also, I can give links to their respective Wikipedia pages. I think that would be good. What do you say? Sudhavedanta (talk) 02:36, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Dear Kashmiri, I have told you the importance of the page and the journal and it is only five lines of text that does lot of help. I am a scholar in these fields and constantly communicate with fellow-scholars, who requested that such details be given. While you are doing good work helping the Wikipedia community, one cannot be an expert in all fields. There are thousands of Wikipedia pages about various issues and publications and persons, that run into many many more pages than this page of Prabuddha Bharata. So, what is the issue here, Kashmiri? Is this some kind of directed attack? First, you betrayed ignorance of all that was there in the page by saying that no contributor was worth the name. Now, you want to prove your supremacy by simply doing meaningless edits. Please do not misuse the Wikipedia space. Please end this that has now taken all forms of an edit war.Sudhavedanta (talk) 06:46, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Sudhavedanta: You have been clearly told that no, this list is not acceptable per Wikipedia policies and Manual of Style. I also have serious doubts about your "list of contributors to the journal", considering that it includes Henry David Thoreau who died 30 years before the journal was founded. The January 2016 issue includes articles by Sir John Woodroffe without any comment - but Sir Woodroffe also died eighty years ago. I have doubts whether those authors wrote for Prabuddha Bharata or your journal just copied their texts. As your list is completely unsourced, I am sorry it cannot be part of the article. If you still don't agree, you are welcome to take the matter to WP:RFC. Additionally, please refrain from personal attacks if you don't want to be blocked from editing. Regards, — kashmiri TALK 16:29, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Dear Kashmiri, Prabuddha Bharata was started in 1896. John Woodroffe wrote in it several times and those articles have been reprinted in this issue with an editorial note about the original issue in which it was published in. 117.243.181.64 (talk) 16:53, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Removing the BLPPROD tag from Łukasz Rzepecki
Hello. I noticed that you removed the BLPPROD tag from the Łukasz Rzepecki article without adding any sources. Yet, members of national parliaments are inherently notable, but biographies of living people need reliable sources. I added a source to the article, but next time, please do not remove the tag until the article is fixed. • Gene93k (talk) 03:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Gene93k: Thanks. Added another source. — kashmiri TALK 13:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Prabuddha Bharata List of Contributors
The English monthly journal https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Prabuddha_Bharata page requires a list of eminent contributors. The journal was started in 1896 and is now in its 121st year and is devoted to the humanities and the social sciences. The archives of the journal are available in a DVD. The list of the contributors was selected from these records. This journal is a reputed one and its copies are found in most libraries on humanities and social sciences. Since the list of contributors helps understand the work published in the journal, it was given. Some editors have cast aspersions on this list. I need help to protect this list. Sudhavedanta (talk) 17:14, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- You should take the discussion to the talk page and start an RFC there.--Adam in MO Talk 13:56, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- Removed RfC template as this is not what an RfC is meant for. Take the issue to the article talkpage and consider starting an RfC on the article talkpage, not a user talkpage. Cheers, Doctor Crazy in Room 102 of The Mental Asylum 01:10, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Yousuf Gabriel
Dear Kashmiri, I hope you are well. I know you are busy but I'll be very glad and grateful if you'll please look at the Yousuf Gabriel page and in particular at the deletion recommendation page. I believe the page clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO and may have been created by a fan (the only editor aside from me) to promote the sale of a book. In any event, the article relies on unacceptable or weak sources and says almost nothing that can be considered encyclopedic. Thanks and best regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 16:55, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
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maya (illusion)
hi, please see the talk page Maya_(illusion). request your continued participation please. thanks. --Mayasutra [= No ||| Illusion =] (talk) 14:34, 23 April 2016 (UTC)mayasutra
- Hi. Find the following books linking ancient egyptian with PIE. This is for info only. Thanks.
- (1) The Nostratic Macrofamily: A Study in Distant Linguistic Relationship, by Allan R Bomhard and John C Kerns, p.3-4.
- (2) Indo-European and the Indo-Europeans: A Reconstruction and Historical Analysis of a Proto-Language and Proto-Culture, by Thomas V Gamkrelidze and Vjaceslav V Ivanov, p.773.
- (3) The Sound of Indo-european: Phonetics, Phonemics and Morphophonemics: Volume 4 of Copenhagen studies in Indo-European, edited by Benedicte Nielsen Whitehead, p.477-481.
- --Mayasutra [= No ||| Illusion =] (talk) 15:33, 24 April 2016 (UTC)Mayasutra
- Hi. In the Rig, maya is mentioned about 102 times; including plurals / compound words / adjectives/ verbs, such as mAyAyA, mAyAbhiH, mAyinamAyaso, mAyAvAn, etc. Did not find maya used in context of measure. I do not have access to Thomas O'Neil's book (Maya in Sankara: Measuring the Immeasurable, p.35). If you have access to the book, please could you reproduce the verse(s) and his interpretation, so it wud be useful to know how he derived the context of measure for maya. Thank you. --Mayasutra [= No ||| Illusion =] (talk) 16:01, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Mayasutra
thirumular's maya
Verses on maya from the english translation of tamil scholar Thirumoolar:
Vedas: An Extract Of The Universal Values, Gyan Publishing House, 2001:
382. Nadha united with Bindhu; from this union, of Nadha-Bindhu did Shiva and Sakthi appears; Gnana arose from Lord Shiva and Kriya from Sakthi and Iccha (desire) arose from Bindhu itself.
383. Maya appeared from Sakthi, and the two mingled like a jewel and its lustre; He who make the Maya appear, remains far, far away beyond description.
384. Paraparam and Paraparai conjoined far, far away in the distance of time. After that, did Nadha conjoin with Bindhu and further on Sadhashiva united with Shakti; Ana Sakthi acts on prakriti Maya (material) sphere. This sphere is known as (Maan) 'Mahat'. Thus was Mahat born. From Mahat evolves the five elements, earth-water-fire-ether and space and thus mahat is the finite support of these five elements.
385. Space evolved out of Maya, then, air from space, water from air and from water the earth's hard crust, thus they, the five elements formed in succession. The five subtle essences (Tanmanthras) appeared from maya and from them, the five gross elements (Bhootas) appeared.
2190. The acts of Kriya, lead to Shiva Tathwa and the practise of prolonged yoga leads to divine grace and knowledge In Chariya, contemplation of the Lord's form, confers many blessings, and in jnana, the entire cosmic creation is comprehended at once. 1. Shiva (Nadha); 1.Sakti (Bindhu); 3.Sadhashiva (Sadhakhya); 4.Iswara (Maheswara); 5. Suddha Vidhya (Rudhra) — these five are the first evolutes of Param. They are known as Lord Shiva Tathwas, and are in the pure Maya sphere.
2191. The beginningless Param brought about this order. Insurpassing wonder and in appropriate graduation, He established these evolutes---Shiva, Sakthi and Sadhashiva, the Pure Isa and the noble Vidhyatatthwas Bodha, Kalas, Niyathi, Time and Mamaya (impure maya).
2192......These twelve Tathwas (5 plus 7) are above the 24 Prakiritis or Athma Tathwas. Of these, seven belong to the lower strata (Vishya Tathwas) and five to the upper strata (Shiva Tathwas).
2193. The impurities are Aanaya (egoity), Maya (ignorance)....
2244. The Pralayakalas who stand with Aanava, reside in Maya (Suddha), yet this Maya does not affect them with Mamaya's (Ashuddha) Kamya desires that the Sakalas possess. They indeed are one hundred and eight Rudhras.
2267...This way are Sakthi (water) and Shiva (fire) mingled there.
2268. Of the thirty-six Tathwas, twenty-four are Asuddha (impure) seven are suddha-asudhha (Misera or pure/impure) and five with pure Maya are Suddha (pure). These Tathwas are thus divided in three divisions as Suddha (pure), Suddha-Asuddha (pure/impure) and Asuddha (impure). All these stand with Lord Shiva at the appropriate stages. Out of the thirty-six Tathwas enumerated in the Saiva Siddhantha School of Philosophy, twenty-four are considered as Athma Tathwas...
2768. The Lord stands and dances ever for those who trascend Maya and Mamaya, for them to witness.
--Mayasutra [= No ||| Illusion =] (talk) 19:07, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Mayaustra
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Says "An article should not include product pricing or availability information unless there is an independent source and a justified reason for the mention."
There is an independent source and there is justification so prices are reasonable to include. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:37, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Doc James: What's the justification, other than just giving an estimated annual cost for an uninsured patient in one out of 183 countries of the world? Shall this possible reason apply to other drugs and countries, too? Thanks! — kashmiri TALK 20:54, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- This ref provide a price range for a bunch of countries http://erc.msh.org/dmpguide/resultsdetail.cfm?language=english&code=SAL01D&s_year=2014&year=2014&str=100%20mcg%2Fdose&desc=Salbutamol&pack=new&frm=INHALER&rte=INH&class_code2=&supplement=&class_name=%28%29%3Cbr%3E
- So we are not talking about a single country but a bunch of countries. Prices for a single medication in a bunch of countries does not vary that much. And price differences between developed countries is usually not that much. (USA is usually most but other countries have laws regarding how high prices can be compared to other countries)
- Linezolid is much more expensive than Septra is all countries. Both are used for MRSA. I regularly see people who come to the ER as the first doctor they saw prescribed a treatment that was more than they could afford and they are looking for a less expensive option. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:58, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- You wrote about consensus at WT:MED. I checked out the most recent threads on drug pricing but don't see any "consensus".
- https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_19#Drug_pricing_reminder – no retail prices!
- https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_67#Prices – consensus here is about not adding prices
- https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_78#Reliable_sources_for_drug_pricing.3F – consensus: no retail prices
- I see you have been arguing for adding pricing info, but didn't see many takers for this.
- Wholesale drug pricing varies in the range of up to 5x between various developed countries. Retail pricing is irrelevant in many (most?) developed countries as state-funded healthcare results in lack of "retail price" for prescription drugs, moreover consensus is against adding retail pricing. — kashmiri TALK 21:06, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- 5x difference in price is very small. In Canada medications outside of hospital are not covered. And somebody is paying. We are not writing for "patients" but for a wider audience which may include hospital admin, governments. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:16, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Here you have price of septra in India: [30].
- And here a comparison of ex-factory drug prices in various OECD countries: [31]. As you can see, wholesale price of branded drugs in some countries can be even as little as 20% of the corresponding US price. Adding US prices to Wikipedia is at best irrelevant for the majority of the world, and misleading at worst. — kashmiri TALK 21:21, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Once again a 5X difference is tiny. Different drugs vary in prince by more than 100,000,000 fold. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:16, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- For example the new hep C treatments cost from $20,000 to $100,000 for a course depending on which option is chosen and were in the world it is gotten. Somebody pays. If you get it covered it would likely increase your appreciation I would hope. If not it will be a tough choice for many. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:26, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Doc James: Correct. So, remind me again please why you insist on having "average price in the US" on Wikipedia? Why not average drug price say, in India (1.2 billion people)? Or in the EU (0.5 billion)? Personally, I consider US pricing information as irrelevant for the majority of readers who have health insurance, and misleading for the rest. It also appears that the WT:MED consensus was not to include retail pricing in articles. Will you object if I remove pricing information from salbutamol? FYI, the annual cost of oral salbutamol 4mg tds in India is around $15. Regards, — kashmiri TALK 15:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- You wrote about consensus at WT:MED. I checked out the most recent threads on drug pricing but don't see any "consensus".
- The US often has some of the more expensive pricing. Therefore prices in most countries is somewhere between the global price listed and the US price.
- Canada partly bases our prices on prices in the USA.
- The USA makes up a significant portion of the English speaking world.
- The US makes up a significant portion of our EN readership, therefore for prevalence I often include the prevalence of diseases in the US (Canada, Australia, India(when available), and the UK)
- Oral salbutamol in India? Interesting. You will notice that $15 is between $1.12 and $50 therefore our pricing info IS useful for people in India.
- India by the way can buy pharmaceuticals at these prices http://erc.msh.org/dmpguide/resultsdetail.cfm?language=english&code=SAL01D&s_year=2014&year=2014&str=100%20mcg%2Fdose&desc=Salbutamol&pack=new&frm=INHALER&rte=INH&class_code2=&supplement=&class_name=%28%29%3Cbr%3E
- Yes I would object to you removing it. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Doc James: What about you going AGAINST consensus with your adding retail drug prices all over? Is that not a valid reason for removal? — kashmiri TALK 21:04, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- As for the rest, I suggest you dig more into the subject of drug pricing across the world. Regards, — kashmiri TALK 21:04, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- I am not seeing consensus not to include this information.
- I have a decent grasp of cost benefit analysis and international drug pricing thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:05, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, so I will add an RFC if you agree. — kashmiri TALK 21:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- Done [32] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:46, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Doc James: If I wrote I will do, politeness would require to let me do it. — kashmiri TALK 08:50, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- Done [32] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:46, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, so I will add an RFC if you agree. — kashmiri TALK 21:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)