User talk:JohnCD/Archive 8
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Your block
You blocked 115.117.252.231 now this person is using 115.117.212.151. In [1] he said what a loser johncd is ...lol..!!! AlphaGamma1991 (talk) 15:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I don't mind the edit summary - being abused is part of the job - but the substance of the edit gets him blocked. I shall be off for a time now, so if he comes back with another IP, go to AIV. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
A Mediocre Time with Tom & Dan
Hey im new to Wikipedia i was just seeing how the save page and show preview buttons work... the page was legit i had a lot more to add. http://www.tomanddan.com/ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/A-Mediocre-Time-with-Tom-and-Dan/v2 how can i get back to editing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smith.patrick87 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- (answered on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 19:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
New IP from vandal.
Remember the Indonesian vandal? He's back and has used three IP addresses to do his old tricks again. The latest is 202.70.58.110 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 14:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
You must have gotten distracted after closing the RfD discussion of Yea verily as "delete" - the redirect remains with the {{rfd}} on it. B.Wind (talk) 16:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- I did indeed get distracted. Fixed it now. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 17:48, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Byrne
After you did [2] that BLP is now getting IPEdu edits. I'd suggest that given the subject, it needs at least sprot. User:LeadSongDog come howl 18:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
- Done, thanks; also noindex-ed. The author seems to have abandoned it; in due course I will take it to MfD, but draft articles are usually allowed some months in user space. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi John, i was wondering why my page for Northern Conquest was deleted? Derek. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quadsey2010 (talk • contribs) 11:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi John, i was just wondering what makes any of the following pages any more valid then the one i was editing for Northern Conquest.
- Portland Naughty Dogs, San Antonio X-Factor or Orange County Bushwackers. Which from what i can see they have no more right to be on wikipedia based on the reasons you gave me for the deletion of my page. If possible can you clarify what i need to make the page acceptable.
- Thanks Quadsey2010 (talk) 14:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- (Replied - WP:WAX) + advice - on user's talk page). JohnCD (talk) 16:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Daviddaved/A trigonometric identity for a circulant matrix
Thanks for catching the second page. something lame from CBW 12:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. I don't often cite IAR, but it was useful there. JohnCD (talk) 16:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
hey
all that work for jest, thanks Martin garnham was fixing ref while you were deleting the same page, did'nt know what to do........ lol Mlpearc MESSAGE 15:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, it was kind of you to try to help but there were all sorts of things wrong with that page:
- It was copied from http://www.garnhamphotography.co.uk/. That is a copyright violation: I'm sure he would give permission, but you can't just copy stuff in without going through the proper copyright release process: WP:Requesting copyright permission
- Anyway, regardless of that, it was a blatant advertisement, full of promotional ad-speak: "distinctive, thought-provoking imagery", "dynamic, vibrant and stylish imagery", "help you excite and energise your marketing message"... Wikipedia requires a neutral point of view, not peacock terms.
- There is no indication that this photographer's business is notable in Wikipedia's terms.
- The author Garnham123 (talk · contribs) clearly has a conflict of interest
- Summary: Wikipedia is not for people to advertise in. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
- No prob. I thought fact that two editors working at the same time on the same was a kawinkadink ! Mlpearc MESSAGE 15:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
why did you delete my article. What did I do wrong. Gangsta Nupe is a nick name for my fraternity chapter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Betaupgangstanupes (talk • contribs) 22:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
- Explained notability requirement on his talk page. JohnCD (talk) 22:12, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
josh slattery
would you give a chance to work on it! he's an irish international basketballer but if you had given me a chance.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tksnackz (talk • contribs) 22:08, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
- Your article only said he was an up-and-coming college player. WP:UPANDCOMING is a phrase that arouses suspicion here - it usually means someone trying to use Wikipedia to promote themselves. If he's an international, that's different, why didn't you say so? I'll restore the article in 20 minutes or so, and put an "underconstruction" tag on to let you work on it. JohnCD (talk) 22:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Regarding Shinsei kamattechan
Hi,
Sorry, no idea whether this the right place for it, but thought I should report my concern over the deletion of the following page:
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Shinsei_kamattechan
I'm a music journalist based in Tokyo and am reviewing an album by this band. I checked the information in the above wiki page through Google's cache and found it extremely useful. The band is currently rising to prominence in Japan.
Just so you know, the page was of use to me and possibly to others.
Thanks, Daniel Robson (The Japan Times, Metropolis, Neo, NME etc)
61.202.36.108 (talk) 05:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- That article was deleted under the Proposed deletion process, which is intended for uncontroversial deletions, so it is automatically restored on request. However I have notified Gonzonoir (talk · contribs) who proposed its deletion, in case he wishes to nominate it under the Articles for deletion process, which would start a debate lasting seven days. Sorry to give you so much Wikipedia bureaucracy; the point is that Wikipedia doesn't aim to have articles about every person, band, company... the criterion is called notability, which is not a matter of opinion but needs to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." There are more detailed criteria for bands at WP:BAND, and it doesn't look to me as though this one meets them - to be up and coming is not enough; but maybe somebody can find supporting sources. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:20, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you block this user for very obvious reasons? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:20, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- Done JohnCD (talk) 09:32, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Modern
I placed modern Greek names in Greek letters and requested their moves as follows. Is that good or it should be rollbacked? If you feel that it is bad, feel free to rollback. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.22.142.78 (talk) 09:34, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think it's good - you should discuss a substantial change like that and get consensus before doing it. You could perhaps have redirects from the new spelling to the traditional one? I won't use rollback, because this isn't vandalism, but I will revert your changes. More comment later today. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- Redirects can be used instead. Complete modern spelling is listed here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.22.142.78 (talk) 10:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Re: Ralph de Sudeley
Have to admit, I feel somewhat vindicated knowing that I wasn't completely wrong. =) --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 14:44, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Speedy Decline of The Willing Well IV: The Final Cut
Oops, my bad. I guess I thought that it used to apply to albums and songs. Maybe it changed, or maybe I just wasn't using it correctly. Either way, I'll take it to AFD. Thanks! Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 16:30, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- There is the fairly new and very useful WP:CSD#A9 for music whose artist doesn't have an article, but that doesn't apply here either. There is good advice on speedy tagging at WP:A7M and WP:10CSD. regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:36, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Just checking...
... does We Like Folk... Who Cares... Destroy Us and Don't Get Bent Out Of Shape (the "dotless version" mentioned in the RfD nomination) also get deleted? B.Wind (talk) 23:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- It certainly does - missed that. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 08:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Copyright issue
Dear Sir:
According with your requisition in (http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Manager%E2%80%99s_Basic_Subjects), I am sending herewith a personal permission as holder of the copyright to the all material posted in Wikipedia . This text has been published by myself at the web in www.fivestarmanager.com, as well in the book "Manager´s Passport" ISBN 978-958-8482-03-3 which contains all the text as appear today in your wikypedia.
Best regard,
Luis G Jaramillo Ps No 8.254.610 Col Ph 57-4-311-2070 or 57-1-623-0262 lgjaramillo@fivestarmanager.com
--Aymsoft (talk) 22:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- (answered on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 15:19, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Page deleted incorrectly.
Ashley Steel page was deleted?
Hey I am Ashley Steel pornographic actress and model. I had hired my publicist to do my wiki page, along with many other things. She did Sunny Leone, Nikki Benz and others that work along side me.
Why was my page deleted by you? I believe it needs to be reinstated. I did not see the content of the page before they posted it but I imagine it is along the lines of my 5 year career in adult.
Thanks.
Ashley Steel ashleysteelxxx@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.105.78.139 (talk) 03:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a notice-board where you can pay a PR to post your details; we strongly disapprove of people editing for money, because of the conflict of interest involved. If your PR told you that s/he could get you a Wikipedia article, ask for your money back. The article was deleted because it gave no indication of notability, a requirement to have a Wikipedia article, which is not a matter of opinion but needs to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." More details at WP:Notability (people) and WP:PORNBIO. JohnCD (talk) 16:03, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
--- Thank you John. I greatly appreciate your response. I suspect that the article did not produce any notability due to a conflict with my publicist in which I believe they purposefully posted an unverified article. I never got to see what was posted and what links and references they used for it. I am sorry about hiring for article, but it was just one of the many things they were supposed to do and never did. I have asked for a complete refund, as this was the only thing left for them do in exchange for the large amount of money I paid for PR, since all other things and contacts they were supposed to utilize, fell through. I just wanted to be done with it since they are very angry and difficult to talk to. After reading your response, I feel like this is principle now. As for this, I gave them many cited links and information, and never saw the article so truthfully I cannot say that it was wikipedia worthy or not.
I greatly appreciate your response and truthfulness. If this is ok, I will likely use this statement in court... Thank you thank you thank you. - A Steel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.105.78.139 (talk) 02:49, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
You might be interested in this. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks for the heads-up on that situation John, i would have gotten back to you earlier if i wasn't busy with a couple other discussions. However, this made me think: Should the uw-delete user warnings contain a part for subjects of BLP pages? It makes no sense to add a custom text for every page blanker, and i doubt it is good PR - nor friendly for that matter - if we flat-out block the subject of an article. In those cases blankings are more understandable Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 12:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- A great many blankings are ordinary vandals, and I doubt if a high proportion are aggrieved article subjects. What might be worth considering, to save typing time when one suspects a "vandal" is the article subject, is a new template {{aggrievedsubject}} which says something like "If you are the article subject, please stop edit warring, we will be responsive to your concerns, state them on the article talk page, see WP:BLP/H for advice." As far as blocking goes, a short one may be the only way to prevent disruption in the short term, and as long as it is short, 1 or 3 hours rather than indef, and is accompanied by explanation, advice and corrective action, I don't think it's too unfriendly. JohnCD (talk) 20:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- That might indeed be a good idea. The vast majority will indeed be pure vandals, but for the couple of "Real" angry subjects that might be a good move. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 20:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- A great many blankings are ordinary vandals, and I doubt if a high proportion are aggrieved article subjects. What might be worth considering, to save typing time when one suspects a "vandal" is the article subject, is a new template {{aggrievedsubject}} which says something like "If you are the article subject, please stop edit warring, we will be responsive to your concerns, state them on the article talk page, see WP:BLP/H for advice." As far as blocking goes, a short one may be the only way to prevent disruption in the short term, and as long as it is short, 1 or 3 hours rather than indef, and is accompanied by explanation, advice and corrective action, I don't think it's too unfriendly. JohnCD (talk) 20:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi JohnCD. Looks like you may have accidentally deleted this article rather than the redirect to it. Olaf Davis (talk) 13:57, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- Aaaargh! Quite right, that's just what I did. Sorry about that. Restored. JohnCD (talk) 15:01, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- No problem, just wanted to let you know. Thanks for reverting. Best, Olaf Davis (talk) 15:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Re: Change of speedy reason
John, I've been wanting something like those links for ages. Thanks! =D --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 15:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- Begs the question, then: as a non-admin myself, am I allowed to pull off speedy tags if I don't think the article should be nuked, or is this something best left to admins for that decision? --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 16:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, you are allowed to: per WP:DEL#Speedy deletion: "Anyone except a page's creator may contest the speedy deletion of a page by removing the deletion notice from the page." If you do, best to (a) say why in the edit summary, (b) add any relevant maintenance templates like {{primarysources}}, (c) consider telling the tagger what you have done and why. JohnCD (talk) 16:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks...
...for your help with the Sphinx. Chrisrus (talk) 23:58, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
will hanrahan
John,
Many thanks for reverting the standard reference for Will Hanrahan. The vandalised article which appeared in various forms from March 5th to March 17th, containing multiple and hurtful libels, was brought to my attention by a Libel lawyer and a TV agent. The solicitor did in fact work for a leading English company. Various attempts to remove the libels gave the impression of multiple vandalism. In fact this vandalism was an attempt to remove the errant material.
The reference to Will Hanrahan as of 07.32 GMT, March 19th, is fine. I would be most grateful if you could keep a watch on the article to ensure the libels are not repeated. Meantime, the IP address of the author of scurilous writing has been forwarded to Police in Birmingham, England. For the record, and I hope you may be able to help on this, I would prefer if the article was removed for a short period. It has been prepared well by a clearly interested person but is not 100% correct.
If your advice is to leave and amend later, then I will follow it. (Willhanrahan (talk) 07:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC)) Willhanrahan (talk) 07:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
ANI discussion that may interest you
Hi john, i opened a topic on ANI regarding the will hanrahan issue. Seeing your involved as well i thought you may be interested to know. Kind regards, Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 11:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
re will h
Hello again,
I must say how impressed I am by the throughouness and sncerity of the administrators. I am new to Wikipedia and, though a victim of someone's efforts, think it excellent.
meantime, when googling my name, an errent insult remains as part of the top line. Can something be done about this?
best wishes
Will Hanrahan - the real one. Willhanrahan (talk) 14:10, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. I apologise for blocking you for a short time yesterday, but the situation was getting rather fraught and I wanted time to look back through the history and find a good version to stabilise on. The fact that Google shows the insult is not a new attack by the vandal, but just that Google has not yet caught up with the clean-up. Any Googler who clicks on the link gets taken to the proper version. I don't know, but will ask, whether there is anything we can do to accelerate Google's catch-up. Taking your article down temporarily would not help.
- We are reluctant to protect articles more than necessary, because the whole idea of Wikipedia is "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit", but I now have it on my watch-list, and so probably do several others, so that any changes will be observed and if the vandal returns we will protect again. "Semi-protection" which prevents editing by anonymous IP addresses and newly-registered accounts, will probably be enough - I have blocked the account "Roboteyes".
- Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:25, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Move
Please move Template:Greek Alphabet back to Template:Table Greekletters, because all articles about Greek letters already exceptionlessly use Template:Table Greekletters name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.191.101.120 (talk) 14:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't do that move, and I don't want to intervene in an area I know nothing about - I will pass your request to user Future Perfect at Sunrise (talk · contribs), who made the last edits there. If he does not agree, you could discuss on the talk page. JohnCD (talk) 16:48, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Future Perfect at Sunrise contradicts himself, so he is unreliable and should be permanently desysopped and permanently banned. See:
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:LaGrandefr , related to IP 211.115.80.146
"Please do not evade your block through logged-out editing, as you did here: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise&diff=347063583&oldid=347048562. If you want to appeal your block, you may post an {{unblock}} request here, but don't use IPs to edit anywhere else."
contradicts
revert of the same IP 211.115.80.146 , logged at http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Greek_language&action=historysubmit&diff=350866523&oldid=350864604 with "rv banned user Wikinger" reason.
Of course Wikinger and LaGrandefr are not the same person, so Future Perfect at Sunrise obviously faulters, and cannot be believed by anyone anymore.
Whole evidence is in this edit history: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Contributions/211.115.80.146
So please fulfill move request, as it is done by someone uninvolved in these Viking affairs. 79.191.237.235 (talk) 10:10, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
will h appreciation
Many thanks, John. Do feel free to email me direct. Your work interests me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.120.102 (talk) 20:41, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank You
Thanks for your quick response to my question!Lunagron (Talk) 21:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Lunagron has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!
Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!
- My pleasure. Thank you! JohnCD (talk) 21:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Brett Finley 1978 graduate of Robert E Lee High School Tyler Texas
You sir are not informed. Mr. Finley is a popular conservative speaker within circles in Texas. We would not expect a foreigner such as yourself to know this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.58.219.234 (talk) 23:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- If I am not informed, that is because the article did not inform me. It gave no indication that he meets Wikipedia's requirement of notability, which is not a matter of opinion but needs to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." More advice in WP:Notability (people) and WP:Your first article. JohnCD (talk) 23:12, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Delelted article
Hi - You deleted an article on Dr Des Fernandes. This really isn't advertising as he is not open for business of any kind. I wrote the article because he is a serious academic and has pioneered some important medical break-throughs in the science of skin care to prevent cancer. COuld you tell me what I said that was wrong, please?
jvwdv —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennievwdv (talk • contribs) 16:45, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- (replied on her talk page) JohnCD (talk) 11:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Jane Brownlee
Hi John
I'm trying to create an entry about Jane Brownlee, a note worthy teacher from Aylesbury who is the inspiration for the Jane Brownlee Scholarship. Could you let me finish the page please so I can show the reason for the entry?
Thanks Ben. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flashart1 (talk • contribs) 20:14, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- (userfied, and replied on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 11:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Just a favour.
Hello, my friend wrote an article on Wikipedia for me too see, but you deleted it before I could read it. Would it be possible just to bring it back for me to see and then you can delete it after. She put alot of effort in it for me too see and I would really like to see it. Regards, Briony Harris. Haribo 09 (talk) 18:53, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- That's not really the sort of thing Wikipedia is for, but since you ask so nicely... What was the actual title of the article? JohnCD (talk) 11:18, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello JohnCD, Thank you for accepting my request. It was called Who Does Vickii Buckland Love? Regards Briony Harris P.S I'm new to Wikipedia, I don't understand how to reply to your messages so I wrote a new post. Hope you don't mind. Haribo 09 (talk) 15:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- Right. I don't want to put it back in the actual encyclopedia, so I have put it into one of my user sub-pages at User:JohnCD/Who Does Vickii Buckland Love, and you can see it by clicking on that. I'll leave it there for the rest of today. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
That's understandable why you don't want to put it back onto the actual encyclopedia but thank you ever so much, you have made my day. Regards Briony Harris Haribo 09 (talk) 15:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- My pleasure. JohnCD (talk) 16:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Yakoke JohnCD!!!
Thank you for the deleting that information, we are still litigating our situation regarding land and recognition. We though Wikipedia would have been a place to impart knowledge and truth about the Choctaws of Florida. Unfortunately neutrality could not be obtained using your services.--76.3.3.249 (talk) 16:50, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi I am Dev161. I know you are about to delete my wiki page but could you please consider the following. I am creating the page to show how much work the students and writer of the film are putting. I will have reffrences up as soon as I can but could you please give me some time before the page is deleted.
Sincerly, Dev161 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dev161 (talk • contribs) 15:41, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- What you are asking for, really, is for Wikipedia to give you a sort of home page for your student film project, but Wikipedia is not a webspace provider, it's an encyclopedia, and it is only a useful encyclopedia because it has rules about what sort of subjects it covers. As far as extra time here goes, the PROD runs for seven days, you're allowed to remove the PROD notice at any time, the article would then be nominated at Articles for deletion, and that would take another seven days. Sorry, but that's all the time you can have here. Why not set up a Myspace page for your project? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:01, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
The Deletion Of Dell
(Cardell205 (talk) 08:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC))Recently The Dell(Rapper)Page Has Been Deleted & I Would Like To Know Why Was It Deleted. I Am Him & I Am A Upcoming Rapper Based In Birmingham, Alabama... Would You Please Help Me With Re-Creating It? Because I Am New To Wikipedia. (Cardell205 (talk) 08:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC))
- (replied at his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 22:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Learn Haitian Creole PROD
No problem, article much improved since I places the tag Codf1977 (talk) 20:50, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, John. Frankly, I wasn't sure if a speedy-delete applied in user space, but it was so obvious that this editor was simply trying to evade deletion rules that I took the closest course of action I could find. I honestly think he's trying to sandbag me with his claimed lack of knowledge about WP rules, but I could be wrong. I've long since given up on assuming good faith on his part. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 22:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, speedy G4 can apply in user space: the definition says "This excludes... content moved to user space for explicit improvement (but not simply to circumvent Wikipedia's deletion policy)", so you're into judging intentions. It was an entirely reasonable call on your part, but I think allowing it with a time limit is the right answer, and he has accepted that. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:17, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi John, Could you please kindly remove all of the above related pages that I messed up the other week & deleted- I have gotten used to the method now in which one needs to write a quality & accurate article on these Subjects! Kind Regards CyclocrossUK —Preceding unsigned comment added by CyclocrossUK (talk • contribs) 05:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- Don't worry, they have all been deleted. Any title that shows up red on your talk page - a "red-link" - means a deleted article. Links that go somehwhere are blue. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:45, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Lesly
Hi John,
I was notified that you speedily deleted Lesly as a redirect to a non-existent page. I am not an administrator, therefore I am unable to determine what the target was before the redirect was deleted or whether it was performing the same function I had it performing when I initially created it. In any case, I believe that a disambiguation page should exist at Lesly as there are articles about people with both the given name "Lesly" and the surname "Lesly". Would you object to my creation of such a disambiguation page at Lesly?
Neelix (talk) 12:16, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- Lesly was created by you in July, and was only ever a redirect to Lesly Masson, which was deleted on 13 March as an expired PROD, the concern being "Fails WP:ENT. Non-notable model." You didn't create or edit that article, but as it was PRODded you can have it back on request if you like, though it might then be taken to AfD. No, there's certainly no objection to you re-creating Lesly as a DAB page to any notable Leslys there may be around. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:37, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
History merge?
Hi. :) The question of deleting the history of removed material came up at copyclean following Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 March 4#List of pop culture references to the 69 sex position. Now that I've got enough caffeine in me (early yet, in my part of the world) to grasp what's going on with it, I agree that we don't need the history if the material is removed, but it seems there could be some danger of inadvertent restoration since the content is still in the article's history. What about a history merge to preserve that attribution so that there's no danger of that? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:17, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- Replied at copyclean. JohnCD (talk) 18:56, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, JohnCD. I apologize for not contacting you directly. I meant to discuss removed content in general, not your RfD decision. Thanks for responding. Flatscan (talk) 04:55, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- No problem - but ain't life complicated? I have done the talk-sub-page solution. JohnCD (talk) 16:39, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, JohnCD. I apologize for not contacting you directly. I meant to discuss removed content in general, not your RfD decision. Thanks for responding. Flatscan (talk) 04:55, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Donna Kennedy-Glans - Deleted Article
I've read most of the articles on wikipedia to avoid auto deletion and would like to know if you have any suggestions for getting the "Donna Kennedy-Glans" page onto Wikipedia. I believe the page is highly relevant within our city right now as there is a potential nomination contest between Conservative parties. I have revised the references provided throughout the article but haven't reposted it in fear that would annoy Wikipedia moderators even further. Any help would be greatly appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin.dubienski (talk • contribs) 22:08, 22 March 2010
- I will provide a longer answer on your talk page, but probably not till tomorrow. The short answer is that it read like a campaign poster, and your note suggests that you want an article for political purposes, but Wikipedia is specifically "not for advocacy, propaganda, or recruitment of any kind: commercial, political, religious, or otherwise" - see WP:NOTSOAPBOX. JohnCD (talk) 17:15, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I assume the G7 deletion of this page was in error, as I neither requested deletion or blanked the page. I just wanted to double-check before I re-create it (I'm only going to add a WikiProject tag). Regards, --Pawnkingthree (talk) 10:49, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
- No, it wasn't an error - the "one author" who requested deletion was User:WildBot, which adds a note like User:WildBot/msg to talk pages of articles where it finds a link to a DAB page. If that is later sorted out, it requests deletion of the talk page - there is a reason why it does that rather than just blank it, but I'm not sure what the reason is. Anyway, no problem with you re-creating the page. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:00, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Joshua Norris
I am curious to know your reason for speedily deleting my article on Joshua Norris? How would you like me to address the problem of: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject? I am new to Wikipedia. Perhaps some suggestions on how to improve my article would have sufficed, rather than deleting it without consulting the author. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Themainstreetexile (talk • contribs) 15:20, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
- (replied on user's talk page) JohnCD (talk) 22:49, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Derek Smart
Hi, can you help us with this Derek Smart page please? Thanks Wildcard999 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:07, 24 March 2010 (UTC).
- Only two edits today, things seem to be stable - WP:BLP/N is the right place for this. JohnCD (talk) 22:46, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Urm.......???
WHO ARE YOU? Put back the page about "Niamh Jones" please!!!!
- I'm an administrator here, trying to keep nonsense out of a serious encyclopedia. Please don't waste our time. JohnCD (talk) 18:51, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your help on the SSFOA page John
It is now live
Lots of pain but finally there
Smile
If it needs any last touch up could you help?
God bless
Steven1969 (talk) 21:02, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
The Silver Star Families of America
Thanks again for your help John
If you see any last little mistakes let me know.
It is now live
God bless
Steven1969 (talk) 23:16, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Hey John, Please can you kindly permanently remove the 'clean up' advisories off of the Paul Wright (Cyclo-Cross) article. It is pretty much complete now- sources are (to back it up) are qite hard due to the time being pre-internet times etc... even obtaining 'actual' newspaper & any other info is difficult. This article is 100 correct & will be linked up hopefully to the rest of the Ace Racing Team in which my articles will be about. warm regards CcUK —Preceding unsigned comment added by CyclocrossUK (talk • contribs) 08:08, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Talk:Mambo (film)
Why was Talk:Mambo (film) deleted. I only created the article Mambo (film) a few a days. AFAIK G7 is "deleted by request by author" and I didn't. --Philcha (talk) 19:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- The "only author" on that talk page was User:WildBot, an automatic system which placed a message there that the article contained a link to a disambiguation page at Montage. When you fixed that today, Wildbot noticed, removed its message and tagged the talk page G7. You can read about what Wildbot does and why on its user page. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. But I've disambiguated a lot of links in the last 4-5 days. It would be disastrous if e.g. Talk:Annelid gone G7, but that hasn't occurred. Is it possible for G7s raised by User:WildBot to be placed in a separate category?
- I'll tell User:WildBot that it sawed more isuses{{[[Template:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]}} --Philcha (talk) 22:46, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- No, WildBot is intelligent enough not to G7 a talk page if anyone else has edited it. JohnCD (talk) 22:48, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- Why issued the G7 at all? An empty Talk page is normal for new articles? --Philcha (talk) 23:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure; once there has been content, even if it's blanked, the talk page becomes a blue-link, and I think that's thought to be confusing (a blanked, rather than empty, talk page often means someone is hiding warnings). Read WildBot's user page, and ask its owner if you have questions. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:14, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- Why issued the G7 at all? An empty Talk page is normal for new articles? --Philcha (talk) 23:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- No, WildBot is intelligent enough not to G7 a talk page if anyone else has edited it. JohnCD (talk) 22:48, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I dare say that you are a bit too fanatical in deleting new postings. Is no discussion necessary? I recently saw a film produced by Ramz media at the Montreal human rights festival, it won a major award. The film "Ghosts" is creating quite a stir in Canadian politics and an article on its producers if warranted.ACinfo (talk) 19:15, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- (replied on user's talk page) JohnCD (talk) 10:20, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Could you please but G.G.F.C back on i just created it yesterday about my indoor soccer club —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakmak9 (talk • contribs) 07:10, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- (replied on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 10:20, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Freelance Whales Deletion
Thanks for your adivce - I'll keep it in mind for next time! --American Vanquish (talk) 17:44, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
You deleted my article...
You just deleted my article on Canadian Ham and Brownies day This is pretty unfair.
It's not a nonfactual article, it's just an obscure Internet holiday. There are no lies in the article, it's all true. And I have a source. AbaddonTitus (talk) 18:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- It's so obscure that it has left no trace at all on Google or News. More advice on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 19:51, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Your deletion/userfication of Jason LH Seow
Hi JohnCD. I had to temporarily recreate Jason LH Seow because you userfied it without redirect. There's a bug in Special:NewPages where userfying an unpatrolled page without redirect causes the page to be stuck in the unpatrolled log. Userfying and then deleting, while admittedly annoying given the checkbox is there, is better for now because that properly removes the page from the unpatrolled log. I just thought I'd drop you a line and let you know. Thanks for your hard work! --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 00:29, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, I didn't know that; I must have done it a dozen times or more, each time thinking how convenient the check-box was; but I'll remember in future. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 10:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
You deleted my article
i had every permission to post an article about an upcoming artist. He said it was ok. i wanted to know if it was ok with you if i can try again, please. Everything stating with the young artist is true & i have every right. Different agents will be working with me to do the article, with your permission. Anonymouz99 (talk) 04:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)AnonymouzAnonymouz99 (talk) 04:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Copyright violation
Hi there. Would you have some time pls to look into this issue? In October 2009 I created a couple of articles about the African Movie Academy Awards (AMAA), including a list of African Movie Academy Awards ceremonies, highlighting some of the main events of the ceremonies and the nominees & winners (the articles were written by me, using my own words, and I did not copy & paste anything from anywhere). One of my main sources for the nominees & winners was the official website of the African Movie Academy Awards. Since October 2009 the content and the URLs of the AMAA website kept on changing, and thus I had to fix/adapt the references on the wikipedia articles accordingly. Now, to my surprise, the official AMAA site has copied & pasted the entire wikipedia text which I wrote last year in October unto their own website (e.g. here). Here's my question: what can be done to ensure that these wikipedia articles which I created won't be tagged for copyright-infringement, given the fact that it is the official AMAA site that copied from wikipedia? Amsaim (talk) 14:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
- Issue has been taken care of. :) Amsaim (talk) 14:54, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
AIV
Thanks. I ought to know this sort of thing, but I don't, and I find such information far more difficult to find than I think it should be. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- That's interesting to know. Thanks again! Pdfpdf (talk) 10:16, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
User talk:72.213.131.59 and attack filter
Hi, John. I don't understand. I don't see any contribs?? Dlohcierekim 21:49, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- The filter stopped them, but look at his filter log. I'm not sure I shouldn't have blocked, but he seemed to have stopped. JohnCD (talk) 21:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, I see Floquenbeam has blocked. JohnCD (talk) 21:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
deleting my stephen c neal page
I just started a stub for stephen c neal you you deleted it. I know the process for starting stubs quite well and adding just a few simple links is fine and in fact are part of the very instructions that are in the wikipedia guidelines... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Executivebios (talk • contribs) 22:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- You are quite wrong. An article consisting only of external links is not "fine" - it qualifies for speedy deletion under WP:CSD#A3 (No content). Your article contained only a single link to a company website, and had been like that for over an hour when I deleted it. People often put those in by way of advertisement, which is one reason why they are speedied.
- What the guidelines actually say is:
- WP:STUB: "When you write a stub, bear in mind that it should contain enough information for other editors to expand upon it. The key is to provide adequate context—articles with little or no context usually end up being speedily deleted."
- WP:Your first article#Things to avoid: "A single sentence or only a website link - articles need to have real content of their own."
- WP:List of bad article ideas #7: "Anything about which you are not going to write at least one complete sentence."
- WP:Avoiding common mistakes: "Articles which are too short to have encyclopedic value. Articles must establish the context and notability of the subject. If an article does not contain enough content to classify it as a stub, then it may qualify for speedy deletion. Instead of creating a very short article, consider adding more content to the page before saving it, or using the {{inuse}} tag to indicate that the article is in the process of expansion."
- JohnCD (talk) 13:42, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Why have you deleted the page? There is no untrue references in it and it is not attacking anyone, just referring to my friend who play football with? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoolio10 (talk • contribs) 13:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
- (replied on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 10:38, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
When you deleted this page (a redir to User:Qotsa37) you inadvertantly also deleted User talk:Qotsa37 rather than Talk:Qotsa37. Do you think you could repair? Thanks! I42 (talk) 21:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
- Done - sorry about that! JohnCD (talk) 21:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
- Many thanks! I42 (talk) 21:10, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Deletion
Hey, I think you removed my wiki page can I have it back? James Menzies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.180.16 (talk) 08:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
- No, you can't. You wouldn't want it back, it was a personal attack, but anyway this isn't a social-networking site like Facebook, it's an encyclopedia and article subjects have to be notable. JohnCD (talk) 09:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Its a serious page which am going to expand, errr yer I know its not facebook. why so bitter dude? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.180.16 (talk) 10:21, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
- A serious page? "he is trademarked by his curly wurly hair... In the afro incident of '92 he attempted to grow a full afro. This failed epically! ...15 harmed, no dead." It's not 1 April any more - this is a serious project to build an encyclopedia. Read WP:Your first article if you want to know more about it. JohnCD (talk) 10:36, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
why you such an angry person?! dont hate on me, HATER! come on give me it back :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.180.16 (talk) 17:41, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
tanhk you for deleting my article .. it s very nicr job ..
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayaandme (talk • contribs) 22:27, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Dravaragus
Dude you deleted my page, i hadn't finished writing it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.206.33 (talk) 10:33, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for deleting my page that someone was making horrible use of it and disgusting sentences.
Thank you John.
It's very much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewMcIntyre2010 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Notability of Stav Prodromou
I responded to your note about notability of Stav Prodromou on my talk page http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Gaiamei Gaiamei (talk) 18:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I cant believe you deleted my page. It was a birthday gift and you had no right to do so! I was going to take it down my self after my friend who the page was intended for had seen it. Thanks for making this world slightly duller you no life loser. Love Jodie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodie315x (talk • contribs) 14:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Talkpage
Sorry, I'll archive it now. I was inactive for about a year, so the newsletter started to pile up and I wasn't here to archive them.Inhumer (talk) 14:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Speedy warnings
Thanks for your advice on my talk page about speedy warnings. Since I don't use a template for the speedy delete, I don't know how to generate the warning on the editors page. Is there a quick template for it, or do I have to type it out each time? Thanks, Xtzou (Talk) 17:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry to butt in, but I think I can save some time on this. If you read the contents of the speedy deletion template, it should have a section that indicates how to notify the poster of the nomination. For example, when you tagged Export edge business college for speedy, the following appeared at the very bottom of the resulting tag:
- Please consider placing the template:
- {{subst:spam-warn|Export edge business college|header=1}} ~~~~
- on the talk page of the author.
- If you directly copy and paste the middle line (with the subst template), it will add the warning with your signature. —ShadowRanger (talk|stalk) 19:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Oops. Just realized John responded on your talk ages ago. Stupid multi-location threads. Sorry to butt in. —ShadowRanger (talk|stalk) 19:20, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Don't apologise - I have been thinking I must organise this talk page better. In principle I reply here, but when giving much advice I sometimes think it will be more useful on the other talk page. Then in principle I note here that I have done so, but I have been getting lazy about that. Maybe I need a note at the top: "Talk page stalkers welcome; if I have not replied here to a message it is probably because I have replied on the other talk page". Cheers, anyway. JohnCD (talk) 19:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- I thank both of you. I never would have noticed the fine print. Also, I'm trying to use the automatic method! Xtzou (Talk) 19:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Don't apologise - I have been thinking I must organise this talk page better. In principle I reply here, but when giving much advice I sometimes think it will be more useful on the other talk page. Then in principle I note here that I have done so, but I have been getting lazy about that. Maybe I need a note at the top: "Talk page stalkers welcome; if I have not replied here to a message it is probably because I have replied on the other talk page". Cheers, anyway. JohnCD (talk) 19:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Oops. Just realized John responded on your talk ages ago. Stupid multi-location threads. Sorry to butt in. —ShadowRanger (talk|stalk) 19:20, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I have gotten into an edit war over Jon Nelson. First I added a {{unreferencedblp}} tag, which was repeatedly removed. Then I took a closer look at the article and this musician was not mention in any of the articles linked to the page. So I added a {{db-person}} to the article which is now being repeatedly removed. I realise I never should have gotten into this war over these issues, and wish not to have any more to do with it. Whatever you think is the right thing to do. Regards, Xtzou (Talk) 21:40, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- If db tags are removed by the article author, you can give a {{uw-speedy2}} warning, which tells him what he ought to do (use "hangon"); if that's ignored, go on up to {{uw-speedy4}}, and then if the author persists report to WP:AIV. In this case, there is now a reference to an interview, and it seems he was a member of which has an article; that may well not be enough for WP:MUSICBIO but it is probably enough to pass A7, and I would probably have declined a speedy. I have put notability and refimprove tags on the article and we'll see if it improves; if not, PROD or AfD could be considered. JohnCD (talk) 22:07, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Well, he has removed the tags you added. And he removed the reference to the interview. Also, Jon Nelson is not mentioned in the Suicidal Tendencies article, or any of the others that are linked in his article. The editor doesn't appear amenable to advice. Xtzou (Talk) 22:12, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- He is in List of Suicidal Tendencies band members. I don't know why he's taken the reference out; it wasn't very high quality (a blog), and mainly in Portuguese, but it did confirm some of the stuff in the article. I've left a message; got to go to bed now. JohnCD (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- True he is on the List of Suicidal Tendencies band members but it says that he played from 1983-84 and never played on any release. Go to bed! Xtzou (Talk) 22:29, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- He is in List of Suicidal Tendencies band members. I don't know why he's taken the reference out; it wasn't very high quality (a blog), and mainly in Portuguese, but it did confirm some of the stuff in the article. I've left a message; got to go to bed now. JohnCD (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Well, he has removed the tags you added. And he removed the reference to the interview. Also, Jon Nelson is not mentioned in the Suicidal Tendencies article, or any of the others that are linked in his article. The editor doesn't appear amenable to advice. Xtzou (Talk) 22:12, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Hello I am perfectly aware that you have these “please don't delete my page “requests all the time. So not once am I going to ask that. I just want to state why I believe my page should be added again. The house in question is a student house which has gained a rather famous reputation in the street and in the area of Cathays. Many people from the University of UWIC know of the happenings which take place there. So this is why I believe as a representative for the house that it should be on Wikipedia. There is no harm in allowing it and it was all true what was said and was written professionally and was information that others would want to read. This page does not harm the reputation of Wikipedia.
Ewan Fraser —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ewan Fraser (talk • contribs) 22:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
- There are two reasons why I deleted your page: first, it contained derogatory information about named people, and Wikipedia has a strong policy on Biographies of living persons which directs that: "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." Second, even if the personal information was removed, though your student house is no doubt important and interesting to you and your friends, there was no indication that it was notable enough to have an article in an encyclopedia - that is our test for inclusion, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." We have this discussion often, so often that "my student dormitory" is No.4 on the List of bad article ideas. JohnCD (talk) 20:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I tagged Cathophilia as {{db-attack}} and blanked the page as it has sexual allegations regarding the Catholic Church that seemed inappropriate and that have already been covered more appropriately else where on Wikipedia. But I noticed the message on the editors talk page referred to personal attacks. Was that the wrong template to use? Thanks, Xtzou (Talk) 15:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- I undid the db, as I am unsure of the correct action here. I decided it was not an attack per say. Xtzou (Talk) 15:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- I see someone else has already deleted it as an attack. If you are in doubt, the master definitions of the speedy criteria are at WP:CSD, and G10 says "Pages that disparage or threaten their subject or some other entity, and serve no other purpose" - so the subject need not be a person. Some of the warning messages do talk about "personal attack", and it may be necessary to modify them or write a special one if you're dealing with an attack that's not on a person. JohnCD (talk) 15:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- ok. thanks! Xtzou (Talk) 15:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- I see someone else has already deleted it as an attack. If you are in doubt, the master definitions of the speedy criteria are at WP:CSD, and G10 says "Pages that disparage or threaten their subject or some other entity, and serve no other purpose" - so the subject need not be a person. Some of the warning messages do talk about "personal attack", and it may be necessary to modify them or write a special one if you're dealing with an attack that's not on a person. JohnCD (talk) 15:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
why you delete the article republic kshatriya while you not delete the somvanshi kshatriya.I have phd on Indian history and i know article kshatriya is not true but you did not allowed me for editing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Badal24 (talk • contribs) 08:09, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Attack pages
Sorry I didn't read it as sizable attack to start with, the Vandalism leapt out at me. I think sometime I am a little soft in giving the benefit of the doubt, but I take your point and will try and look for the attack element more. --Wintonian (talk) 10:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
RyTone Entertainment
Hi John - I'm fairly new to Wiki - can you give some advise on how to properly put my most recent contribution on Wiki back in place? I have a lot of on and offline material for references, but would appreciate your help to know exactly what to do..
Best,
D —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dspringerva (talk • contribs) 13:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Ambligian
You deleted the page Ambligian that I had tagged for speedy deletion. I thought that it came under G1, but you deleted it under G3. I'm sure that you were right, but it seemed to me to be more teenage gibberish that malicious vandalism. Could you please help me to understand these confusing rules by explaining why it came under G3 and not G1, so that I don't make the same mistake again? Thanks. •• Fly by Night (talk) 21:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- The master descriptions of the speedy deletion criteria are at WP:CSD, and G1 is very narrowly defined and only intended for things like "'&5ec@@#$$!8+!" or "Yaaaayyy LOL!!!!!". This one was pretty near that, but you could discern some meaning, just; G3 hoax or vandalism is useful for things that no-one could have supposed was a useful contribution (though G3 also can be misused, e.g where someone has invented a new word or a new religion, which is WP:NFT but not speediable). There is good advice about speedy tagging at WP:10CSD and WP:A7M. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advise. I'll read your links. Take care. •• Fly by Night (talk) 21:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Hannah Ventisei
You deleted this article whilst I was in the middle of editting it. Please undelete it, add add the following--Toddy1 (talk) 20:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Album On 14 April 2009, Sweetcorn Records published a CD by her entitled Live Life to the Full. This has nine tracks. Ref: [3]
- Sorry, but one album on iTunes isn't enough, unless it's been on a national chart - see WP:MUSICBIO for what a musical performer needs to have achieved before having a Wikipedia article. Good luck to Hannah, but she isn't there yet. JohnCD (talk) 21:04, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Attack on editor
I apologize; I followed instructions left in source code and should be ashamed. I didn't know what I was doing! I had never edited Wikipedia, nor do I plan on doing so in the future, but I feel like I should apologize for wasting your time. Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.213.131.59 (talk) 03:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Your decision not to delete this page seems odd to me. The discussion produced 2 in favour and 2 against, with the two in favour of deletion being the more established users. I don't know how much you know about motorsport but A1 Grand Prix is close to going out of existance without a rescue deal, any details of a possible future season cannot remotely be known. One large component of that is the fact that the season may not even be called '2010-11 A1 Grand Prix season' when it is created. There is every chance that a new owner could rename the series or that the season may not even start until 2011, a change of timescale such that the page would be called '2011 A1 Grand Prix season' or something similar. The chances of someone searching for '2010-11 A1 Grand Prix season' are very slim, especially as it is not the current season but the one after it. It is the same reason why we don't create redirect pages for every future season in other race series. You can't suggest that it is a good idea to create '2011 GP2 Series season' or something just to redirect to main page on the off-chance that someone might type that into the search box. The beauty of the search box is that it draws up a list of closely matching pages so if someone did type in '2010-11 A1 Grand Prix season' it would take them to the main A1 Grand Prix page anyway. I still think the page should be deleted, please to what you can. Thanks. Officially Mr X (talk) 14:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't close that deletion discussion, nor did I take part in it; but once it had decided to keep the only way to change that is to take it back to RfD, as it doesn't meet any of the speedy criteria - your G7 did not apply because you were not the author. As I said, I'm not sure I agree with the decision, it's not a particularly useful redirect, but it's not as though deleting it would save any space - deleted material still stays in the servers. JohnCD (talk) 14:51, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
delete Art of Movement page?
Hello there, I didn't create the page for "Art Of Movement", so I don't know if there was anything wrong with it. Therefore I was just wondering why you deleted it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayeffect (talk • contribs) 13:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
- All the article said was "Art of Movement is a B-boy crew based in Seattle, Washington. It was established on January 1st, 2002", with a list of members and links to Facebook and a Korean fansite. That doesn't show notability - see WP:BAND for what a group needs to have achieved before having a Wikipedia article, and WP:Your first article for advice if you think you can show they meet the standard and want to write an article. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
I am not sure if this is an attack page, a blatant hoax or what. "Most notably Atticus' life took a turn after an ordeal while attending a high performance USCA junior training camp in Rice Lake Wisconsin. Though little is know about that day, claims are boasted regarding a five gallon bucket of mixed soft drinks, a funnel, and a coffee pot full of eyelashes." Xtzou (Talk) 13:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- I'd say G3 hoax/vandalism was the right tag, and I see another admin has agreed. Not really derogatory enough to count as an attack, probably intended to be "funny". JohnCD (talk) 13:29, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! Xtzou (Talk) 13:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Response to Page Deletion
I understand about the difference between true and verifiable--I just wanted to do it for fun. Here's some sources that verify his Olympic career and career as a worker for BigBelly Solar. I can edit the page so that those are the only two facts listed. (by the way, you must be a very patient person seeing what people write on your page!)
Keep up the good work!
http://www.databaseolympics.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=KENNERIC01 http://www.spoke.com/info/p6R6B05/RichardKennelly —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dahanksta22 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Thx-Q
Hi John - thanks again - hopefully I can get in there soon to post supportive references. Another Q - I'm having problems with some images being deleted.. I upload them, but apparently they get marked for speedy deletion and get pulled down - due to copyright notices I believe. How should I go about this if an artist has given permission to use an image? I'd like to reload a few, but would like to get this corrected so they stay live.
Best - Daniel —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dspringerva (talk • contribs) 21:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Handling PRODs
Thanks for the note - I read the relevant section AFTER, not BEFORE my edit! Regards (Crusoe8181 (talk) 00:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)).
USER:CENTROCAPITAL/Alexander Sergeevich Afanasyev
Dear John, We appreciate your effort to keep us from littering the Wiki and your explanations given to CENTROCAPITAL in the last TALK
We ask you also to explain contradiction between what you said in the TALK to that what is in the article A7 citation:
"The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source"
. The exact understanding of the need for reliable and independent sources can be of great help for us.
With best regards. CENTROCAPITAL
Not too worried about it being converted to a PROD, John. I'm a little concerned about this user, though - doesn't take a genius to see that {{twain}} is very specific to Mr. Clemens and has little to do with Jantzn May. Misguided, perhaps? --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 21:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I think just misguided, he's a new, about-to-be-self-published author and thought WP would be a great place to promote himself and his proposed works. I guess he wanted to model articles for himself and all his to-be-written books on the way Mark Twain is covered, and didn't realise he was mucking up the Twain template. I nearly had a heart attack when I deleted his own article, then clicked on "What links here" to see if there were any redirects to tidy up, and saw a vast list of all the articles which transclude the Twain template. I explained about notability, we'll see whether he gets the message. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Maybe he is an about-to-be-published author but then again you have a track record of deleting the WP article about Malta's most published and best-known journalistDaphne Caruana Galizia, who has had her work published in national publications literally thousands of times. You deleted the article about the subject despite the fact that it had dozens of verified references from independent national publications. So excuse wikipedia if it doesn't gasp in amazement at your expertise in determing who is or isn't published! :D Qattusu (talk) 07:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
i dont understand
he is a local legend here in this area and alot of people know about him. We speak about him like chuck norris. I didnt mean to make fun of the site or degrage it in any way but alot of poeple were going to look for him on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The truth10681 (talk • contribs) 20:11, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
From Gaiamei
Please see my talk page for updates and request for input. Thank you Gaiamei (talk) 20:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
CENTROCAPITAL continued
Hello John,
Sorry for misleading actions of my team. I've created Centrocapital account to see what options WIKI has for us and how we will be able to contribute to WIKI in return. Earlier this year I've asked my assistant to check these options. Sorry that she decided to start with my biography which I consider not that notable. Team thinks different. But regulations are regulations and WIKI is a private project with rules that have to be followed. We accept this. So thanks for your actions. I appreciate cleaning and guarding job that you do, since it adds value to the whole of the project.
As you said, you can userfy the source code that have been created. Despite I have a plenty to say to the world I personally have no current plans to contribute much, probably I'll be more available at the time of retirement. Since team insists on finding as much as possible reliable independent references (and my history is not only GM – I started as a research scientist with about 20-ty published papers some of which got in the Citation Index, so they have a chance to file the form) can you please userfy Centrocapital/Alexander Sergeevich Afanasyev source code for user Afalse? This will save my assistant some time when she’ll be ready to submit the article for validation – first with me and then, if possible, with you (confirm please).
I’ll take more care of our actions next time and allocate some time to understand what corresponding WP policies are. I will delete the Centrocapital account since it violates WIKI username policies, as soon as you will transfer user data to my personal username Afalse
Regards, Alexander Afanasyev —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afalse (talk • contribs) 07:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Lionel Bastos
I see you deleted the page I was putting up.
I have the content edited now and need this restored.
Kind regards, Michelle —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.213.126.2 (talk) 13:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
The Banner - Reflection Of The Shadow Of The Beast (deleted content)
You deleted an entry I entered about an album that my band recorded. It was never released and clearly stated so, but with that being the situation I really can't produce any "press" on the matter. The label is now defunct and it's a years old, dead in the water situation. Being that it was a signed, internationally touring, professional band I'd say it doesn't fall under the reasoning on your list of reasons to delete things. It's part of the accurate history of a band. I can send you a copy of the song if you would like, but other than that it doesn't exist. The point of me writing about it was to let people know that it DID exist and how we ended up getting out of one record contract and into another. It was a vital part of the history of the band that no one knows about. Just seems silly is all and while I see that perhaps this works in some situations, it's definitely not on par with your examples: "the band you started with your friends, (even the ones that are so close to being noticed/signed/gigged) the shop down the street that sells good donuts." The rest of The Banner's page is a fairly detailed page and having been in it for years I can tell you you're doing the opposite of fact finding in this situation. You've simply deleted facts.
Thank you, Ian Mullen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darth Mattingly (talk • contribs) 22:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- The fact that an unreleased album exists is not enough for it to have a Wikipedia article - there is a general notability requirement at WP:Notability, based on the need to show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject," and a specific one at WP:NALBUMS. It's unlikely that an unreleased album will have attracted the necessary independent comment, and this article was deleted as a result of a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reflection In The Shadow Of The Beast (Unreleased). You are quite right to come first to me, as the admin who closed that discussion, but I see no reason to change my view; your next step, if you want to pursue it, is WP:Deletion review. From what you say, it does not sound as though there is any possibility of improving the article to meet the notability requirements.
- You have a point that while the album is not important in itself, it is an interesting part of the band's history. Why not add a brief description of the album and its background to the band's article which, as someone remarked in the discussion, is fairly thin? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
ANDDDDDD why did you delete the lamberts rainbow fruit page?!?!?!?!?! i dont understand why you would delete it if it is a real company? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.150.64.90 (talk) 16:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- It's not enough to be a real company - Wikipedia doesn't have articles about every company. Article subjects have to be WP:Notable, see also WP:CORP. More advice on your talk page, assuming you're Lukelamb21 (talk). JohnCD (talk) 21:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Noahs Ark 3D
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Noahs Ark 3D redir etc - thanks for that; I was about to do same myself, but my connection is playing up. Cheers, Chzz ► 18:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- No worries - I came on it via a "helpme" on the author's talk page. I've explained to him. JohnCD (talk) 18:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi there! I want to ask you about Discover Trinidad and Tobago. Although it is very carefully worded, it seems to me like an advertisement for the book and its related publications. What do you think? Xtzou (Talk) 21:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- At a quick look, all I have time for now, it is certainly not "blatant advertising" enough for a G11 speedy. Notability might be doubtful - I haven't checked out the references to see whether there is any independent comment - but that's not a speedy matter, and in fact I don't see any grounds for speedy. Suggest you see whether any of the references are actually independent, and if not consider adding {{notability}} or {{primarysources}} templates as appropriate. JohnCD (talk) 21:43, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- It's claim to fame is that it is recommended as further reading by the Encyclopedia Britannica and About.com, and a restaurant it featured is mentioned at a TrimiGormet.com. I suppose that is enough. It has similar articles on two of its "Sister publications" Caribbean Beat and Caribbean Review of Books (CRB) and will soon have articles on two others: ENERGY Caribbean and the Trinidad & Tobago Business Guide (TTBG). (Actually, that external link from the article is dead.) Xtzou (Talk) 22:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Flying Pig Productions
HiJohnCD you were most helpful the other day in helping with the establishmen of the page, I was wondering if you could assist again on the talk by adding constructive crit. The problem may have been that I have based the article on other ones such as 'Burnistoun','Abderite Theatre Company', 'Scotland the What?', 'Comedy Unit'. And thought I was establishing a good factual based article for others to develop later. Any help would be appreciated? Would it be better if I just got somebody else to do it? Do I need more references? A lot of articles appear to have no references whatsoever. Any help appreciated. Steverance (talk) 10:35, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Don't be too alarmed by the "maintenance templates" on the article - they are suggestions for improvement, not threats of deletion. I see OrangeMike has been doing some work on the article and giving advice; you can post at WP:Requests for feedback if you want more opinions. IMO you have enough references to establish notability. Yes, there indeed a lot of substandard and unreferenced articles about, but we're trying to apply a higher standard to new ones. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
further vandalsim
Hi JohnCD.
Again someone seems to wilfully ignore Wikipedia's aims and seeks to hurt me personally by placing or reverting to offensive comments on a page about me - Will Hanrahan. John, I would be most grateful if the page about me was regularly watched to avoid this happening. Indeed, I would be happy for it to be deleted for the time being. I did not write it, have spent some time taking away comments attributed to me which I did not make and removing some hyperbole which seems to have been listed from a BBC site. offtoriorob did a brilliant job on April 11th of allowing the hurtful reversion to remain for only a few minutes - but it is a shame it has to be done. The errant vandal, incidentally, should be blocked in my opinion. Willhanrahan (talk) 13:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Will Hanrahan. Perhaps you could semi protect it indefinitely John considering the comment from the OTRS identified subject and the current apparent liberal attitude towards semi protection of BLP articles in the endless wait for flagged revisions. Off2riorob (talk) 14:52, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Semi-protected for six months - I don't really like indef, but I have marked the date on my calendar and will watch after it. Also blocked the latest attacker, though it was probably a throwaway account. Well done, Rob, to pick it up so quickly. JohnCD (talk) 15:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Six months is plenty, thanks very much John. Off2riorob (talk) 16:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Semi-protected for six months - I don't really like indef, but I have marked the date on my calendar and will watch after it. Also blocked the latest attacker, though it was probably a throwaway account. Well done, Rob, to pick it up so quickly. JohnCD (talk) 15:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Thnk You Note
Thanks John,
If one has to read - he/she will.
Anyway thanks for a good controlling. Alexander. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afalse (talk • contribs) 15:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
vandal blocking - a thank you
John,
Most grateful for the protection afforded the page. 81.152.120.22 (talk) 16:37, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
User:81.107.83.85
ok then, just thought id let you know, as the ip is wreak valley college, as that is the page they were vandelising. also, cleaning up the page to as it was before (blanking)
- Sghfdhdfghdfgfd (talk) 20:51, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
does this qualify for g11?
Does User:Ericmyers360 qualify for CSD G11, or is it excluded from G11 because its a User page? Brambleclawx 21:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- While I'm asking: does any action need to be taken in regards to User talk:136.235.244.101? I saw all this random stuff on it (appeared be HTML or something of the sort). Brambleclawx 21:24, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Any page can be subject to a G11 deletion, so user pages are not an exception (except for G2 for obvious reasons). In this case though there is nothing really promotional on that page (yet), is there? You should rather leave them a message and explain that their planned usage of the userpage conflicts with WP:NOTHOST. As for the IP talk page, it looks like an attempt to add HTML markup, possibly a harmful script. Blanking was a good thing since it looks like it belongs to a school[4]. I added the appropriate tag to it. Regards SoWhy 21:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah. Thanks. The word "script" on their page was what really caught my eye there. Brambleclawx 21:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, SoWhy; all I'd add is (a) at the head of the "General" section of WP:CSD it says "These apply to all namespaces" (unlike the A speedies which are for articles only) and (b) another useful guideline to point a user like Ericmyers360 to is WP:BFAQ. Have a look at his talk page to see what I thought was the right message. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah. Thanks. The word "script" on their page was what really caught my eye there. Brambleclawx 21:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Any page can be subject to a G11 deletion, so user pages are not an exception (except for G2 for obvious reasons). In this case though there is nothing really promotional on that page (yet), is there? You should rather leave them a message and explain that their planned usage of the userpage conflicts with WP:NOTHOST. As for the IP talk page, it looks like an attempt to add HTML markup, possibly a harmful script. Blanking was a good thing since it looks like it belongs to a school[4]. I added the appropriate tag to it. Regards SoWhy 21:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
As you declined my speedy deletion I will now have to prod it for the same reason (apparently entirely original research to be published on WP), an unneccessary prolongation in my eyes. Also it is most likely it is also a copyvio since it looks like the text was copied from another source. De728631 (talk) 18:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, you prodded it already. Anyway, I think one could have sped this up. De728631 (talk) 18:08, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- I know it can be frustrating, but the CSD criteria are deliberately tightly drawn, and "Original research" is specifically excluded as a speedy reason - #3 in the list of non-criteria at WP:NOTCSD. If it's copyvio, it's not from anything on-line that Google indexes; I think it's probably first publication. I should have made clear that I was doing the PROD - sorry. JohnCD (talk) 18:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. It should be gone in a week. De728631 (talk) 18:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- I know it can be frustrating, but the CSD criteria are deliberately tightly drawn, and "Original research" is specifically excluded as a speedy reason - #3 in the list of non-criteria at WP:NOTCSD. If it's copyvio, it's not from anything on-line that Google indexes; I think it's probably first publication. I should have made clear that I was doing the PROD - sorry. JohnCD (talk) 18:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Shades of Grey
Thank you for your response to my talk page. You advised I guard against original research, a guideline I recently read. I understand and agree in concept and whereas the issue may be black and white I am grey in the following regard: I served in the 56th FACOM, stood in formation at a parade along with at least 1000 others, and witnessed the presentation of the Army Superior Unit Award by then NATO Commander Gen W. Clark to then 56th FACOM Commander BG R.K. Bean. I am as certain of these as I am that Paris is in France but have not found references to cite. Would I be precluded from stating these facts in your opinion.My76Strat (talk) 20:43, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you would, because you are now up against the third of our key content policies (after WP:NPOV and WP:NOR): WP:Verifiability, which includes: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true." There is a possible loophole in that that applies to "anything challenged or likely to be challenged" - if you consider your statement would not be likely to be challenged, you could try putting it in, but if it were questioned and you had no reliable source, it would have to come out. JohnCD (talk) 21:50, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted talk page?
Hi. I'm a student who put up the article "Decree of Philippi, 242 BCE." According to the talk page history, you deleted my talk page. I received this notification:
A page with this title has previously been deleted. If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below. 13:53, 25 March 2010 JohnCD (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Decree of Philippi, 242 BCE" (G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page)
Please explain why? This article and monitoring changes made is part of my final project for a class. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Headani (talk • contribs) 21:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- Don't worry, the "only author" who had put anything on that talk page was User:WildBot, a "bot" or automatic system, which checks for links that go to disambiguation pages and for clarity should be amended to point to the actual target. WildBot found three (Macedonian, Antigonus, Neapolis) and made a note on the talk page. Then, after you sorted them out, it deleted that note and, as the "only author" asked for the page to be deleted. Why it does that rather than leave the page blank, I don't know; but if you have something to put on the talk page, go ahead and create it again, no problem. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
u all suck
u are all gay retards who have nothin better to do than "patrol" peoples pages you all are complete and total losers or as most people call you guys NERDS or DORKS!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanjc1 (talk • contribs) 00:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
i hate u
why are u deleting everybodys page i mean what is your problem r u gay or something why can't we just make pages about ourselves you suck and why r u bieng so gay —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanjc1 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- This is an encyclopedia - if you want to "just make pages about ourselves" try Myspace or Facebook. JohnCD (talk) 13:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you
... for the asked-for speedies! Hamamelis (talk) 11:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- My pleasure - db-author speedies are the easy ones, no need to think, just check the history and zap. JohnCD (talk) 13:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Insignificance
You are of no significance; A blade of grass, a grain of sand on the beach - remember this when you deem to count yourself so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.236.30 (talk) 16:12, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- I know, but thanks for reminding me. JohnCD (talk) 13:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Acrimoney
Please note, Acrimoney is the SOURCE of the articles the bot found on BestThinking.com,not the other way around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megvon (talk • contribs) 13:30, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
- If the words have been published before, wherever it was, we would need a copyright release as explained at WP:Copyrights#Contributors' rights and obligations; but in any case, this article was unsuitable for other reasons - see Wikipedia is not a dictionary and Wikipedia does not document the usage of neologisms. You could try Wiktionary, but they too have fairly demanding inclusion criteria such as "Usage in permanently recorded media, conveying meaning, in at least three independent instances spanning at least a year." JohnCD (talk) 13:49, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Acrimoney
Thanks for your explanation. I understand. It is a clever "word" and an interesting blog! --Megvon (talk) 17:25, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
My talk page
Thanks for sorting out the vandalism! 18:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Flandrensis
Greetings,
In 2009 you have delete an article about the micronation Grand Duchy of Flandrensis because we didn't have a reliable source. Well, now we have one: http://www.rtbf.be/video/v_questions-a-la-une?id=42342&category=info (a documentary of the RTBF. I would like to remake our page (with the relevant information of course). --Niels Vermeersch (talk) 10:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- The title has not been salted, so there is nothing to prevent you posting the article again. However, as it was deleted after a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grand Duchy of Flandrensis, it is liable to be speedily deleted as a repost of deleted material. You would do best to make a draft in your userspace at User:Niels Vermeersch/Grand Duchy of Flandrensis and then approach user Stifle (talk · contribs), the administrator who closed that discussion, to see if he agrees that your redraft overcomes the reasons for deletion. If you cannot convince him, you can go to WP:Deletion review.
- Before you put much effort into this, please read WP:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day and (if you are the Grand Duke) WP:Conflict of interest. You will need to show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" to establish notability. The link you provide above only takes me to a screen which says "Aucune vidéo disponible actuellement" and some text which does not mention your "Grand Duchy." If the content of the video was just an interview with you as an example of those who "rêvent de se faire anoblir et sont prêts pour cela à déployer des trésors d'ingéniosité," I doubt whether it would be enough for notability; but you can certainly try again. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your answer, but it's not my intention to write an article about notability. The documentary goes about nobility and people who buy titles, but they also refered to micronations, they show a part of Danny Wallace and Flandrensis. I just want to write an short article with information about Flandrensis, in that documentary we explained how we claimed land, why our micronation is inspired on the medieval Flanders etc. Only the information that they showed in the documentary --Niels Vermeersch (talk) 15:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- You have two difficulties to overcome: Verifiability: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true." What a reliable source needs to show is (to put it bluntly) that the Grand Duchy has some existence outside your own head, that it is more than something you made up one day. A TV interview might help with that.
- But there is still the problem of Notability. I know you are not writing an article about notability, but if your article is to be in Wikipedia it needs to establish the notability of your micronation; to show that someone independent of it has taken it seriously enough that there is (if I keep repeating this, it is because it is the real problem you face) "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." In my opinion an interview with you talking about your micronation will not be enough for that.
- You are welcome to try again, though. Make the best article you can in your userspace, post if you like at WP:Requests for feedback to get comments, then ask user Stifle (talk · contribs) if he thinks you have overcome the problems which caused deletion at the AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Question about an article
What do you think of this article, TheatreWorks (Silicon Valley) Complete repertoire? It is a very long, unreferenced list, and it seems to me it is WP:NOT. Perhaps you do not agree with me. How should I be looking at it? Best, Xtzou (Talk) 17:02, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- This sort of article is a matter of opinion. I myself don't like it much - IMO this sort of detail should be on the theatre's own website, and pointed to from their article. As far as I can see this information isn't on the theatre's website, so one could make a case under WP:NOTWEBHOST and WP:IINFO; but I suspect that an AfD would turn into an inconclusive, wrangling argument and end up "no consensus", and it's probably not worth it. It certainly needs sources, and I have put an "unref" tag on it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:29, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. The editor removed previous tags I put on there. I suspect, though I may be wrong, he will remove yours. But you are right, it's not worth hassling over. Xtzou (Talk) 20:32, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Advice sought on Greg Smith (broadcaster/speaker)
Hi, this article appears to be a complete copy/paste of Tony Robbins. Even his name is used in most of the article (only in the first few sections has the name been changed) and the references pertain to Robbins. Should this be speedy deleted as a hoax or should it be a prod with an explanation? Best, Xtzou (Talk) 19:49, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- I think he's using an existing article as a template for a new one - newbies fairly often do that, with confusing results. I have left him a message; he has also triggered Cluebot by deleting a large chunk of the Robbins material with no edit summary. One tip - if a newbie has not had a Welcome paragraph, it's always worth giving one, preferably before a first speedy warning or other notice. {{welcome}} is a good one, or {{firstarticle}} if their first article is about to be speedied. Both those need to be subst-ed. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:13, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing that. I didn't realize that was what was happening at first. Now I feel guilty. His article indicates that he is not likely to be notable. Xtzou (Talk) 20:40, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
New Zealking sock
Hi JohnCD. Thanks for blocking Limezest. Should I "reopen" Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zealking? Normally, I would use Twinkle to report a sockpuppet, but since we are going by WP:DENY, I would like to avoid the publicity, i.e. notifying the creep. Favonian (talk) 21:35, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- I'm actually not sure what to do here, as the SPI has been archived - I shall ask Nawlinwiki who seems to have taken the lead on this one. JohnCD (talk) 21:37, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Speedy delete question
No worries ... but I am curious. Is such a redirect truly helpful to the project, since it merely changes the case of a single character? I could understand if it was a nickname of the person. This seems like it should have been a page-move instead of a redirect. How should one handle this in the future? Thanks for looking at this, and for any assistance you can provide. Question answered on talk page. Thanks! --McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:53, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the additional insight ... that'll help me a lot going forward. I appreciate it! :) --McDoobAU93 (talk) 16:09, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Brad Hager
Hey.
I'm writing my Bio page and I don't appreciate you deleting it. I'm starting a business and I'd like for people to be able to read about the owners so they can see how our ideals translate into our product. I didn't even finish the page, which I've spent the last 3 hrs working on. I know you're retired but you shouldn't over sensor this utility. Please leave me alone.
Brad —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhaggler (talk • contribs) 18:56, 26 April 2010
- Sorry, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a notice-board. More advice on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 19:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
zujna
i just created a page and it was instantly deleted...zujna is a word used by a tribe in argentina...it is an insult indirectly translated as fuckin bitch ass nigger...directly translated it means incapable person.. please allow this
- Sorry, but Wikipedia is not a dictionary. JohnCD (talk) 20:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Sunta und die Klauses
Hi JohnCD,
you deleted my entry about "Sunta und die Klauses", a band which is very close to my heart on the grounds that it had no relevant information regarding the band. I can provide any information you require regarding this band, as everything stated was entirely true and relevant to the subject. It would be greatly appreciated if this were reinstated somehow, as there are many people who want to know about this particular band. I would also appreciate it if you would maybe give me some hints as to how I could write an article that won't be considered straight away for speedy deletion as I feel that there are many reasons as to why this should be part of the great online encyclopedia that is Wikipedia.
Thank you Tgreen1550 (talk) 21:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
- I'm afraid being true isn't enough: as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia has notability standards for article subjects. The requirements for bands are explained at WP:BAND, and reasons for not writing about yourself or your own band at WP:COI. For hints on writing acceptable articles, read WP:Your first article, especially the section Things to avoid. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:23, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, that's helped a bit. Maybe I'll wait for someone else to write an article about Sunta... Tgreen1550 (talk) 11:48, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Request for deleted article content
Hi John - could you send me a copy of the deleted version of J. P. Morgan (cartoonist) and its edit history? I would like to interwiki to WikiFur:. Thanks! GreenReaper (talk) 02:59, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Done JohnCD (talk) 08:19, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Indonesian vandal alert.
Remember the Indonesian long term vandal I've reported to you before? He's back. Same MO. This time, he used the following IP address in the 110.138.32.0/20 range:
- 110.138.32.159 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 110.138.41.213 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
He hasn't showed up in an address beyond the above range, but 110.138.32.0/20 is the best shot we have so far until he uses a third address. BTW, if I'm not mistaken, you are more hesitant when it comes to rangeblocks, but I've also told this to Peter. Just thought I'd give you a heads up. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 09:15, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- I've commented at ANI. The trouble is, he's too hit-and-run for short rangeblocks to be effective. JohnCD (talk) 10:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Wow! Mercury delay line memory!
Never seen it, but I recall my PhD supervisor describing it to me in the early '90s - and he must have been in his late '50s then! I remember being fascinated by the concept, intended to read up on it but completely forgot about it- until I read your user page, which I only did because you deleted the Gillian Duffy page I created (I think). So, there you go, a positive message from a 'deletee', as I notice you seem to get quite a lot of negative comment:). Cheers 1812ahill (talk) 18:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- I mentioned that on my user page to help counter the often-expressed view that all admins are 15 years old. The machine was an English Electric DEUCE, circa 1960. Mercury delay-lines make programming a real puzzle, because you have to arrange that the instruction and the operand pop to the top of their tubes at the same time. There were a few one-word and four-word tubes as parking areas, but it was still tricky. There were other types of delay-line - the Ferranti Sirius used torsional vibrations in metal wires. The really amazing thing, seen from today, is what could be achieved in storage less than one hundred-thousandth of what the meanest PC has now.
- I didn't see your version of Duffy; what I deleted (responding to this request at ANI, because of WP:BLP1E and WP:BLPNAME concerns), was the redirect left behind after the article had been recreated and then moved to another title. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 20:39, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I often nostalgically reminisce about my own computing youth and the coding efficiency that used to be achieved (e.g. Elite) in 32kB. Computing was much more fun in those days, when an individual could just about get their head around the entirity of a system. Hey ho, progress eh! ;) 1812ahill (talk) 22:09, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
You deleted the page I made. Kelsey Jean Brown is an actual person. Why did you delete it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Musechronicler (talk • contribs) 22:54, 28 April 2010
- To have an article, it's not enough to be an actual person; a subject has to be notable, which requires showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". The jokey tone of your article suggests that what you want is a social-networking site like Facebook, not a serious encyclopedia. See WP:Your first article for more advice. JohnCD (talk) 10:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
A page on Gillian Duffy should exist.
Please undelete. This is clearly notable. This woman is in the headlines of every national British newspaper. Julien Foster (talk) 22:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- See WP:109PAPERS and WP:BLP1E - also more detailed reply below. JohnCD (talk) 10:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I believe you deleted a page on Gillian Duffy. Without knowing the contents of that page, it is impossible for me to judge whether that was the right thing to do or not. But the women is very notable and there should be a page about her. If you are unaware of how notable she is, look on the BBC web site. Her name is on the front page, and there have been more comments on the "Have your say" pages about here than any other - by a very significant margin too. Drkirkby (talk) 01:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Gillian Duffy falls clearly into the category of people notable only for one event so that any article should be about the event, not about the person. The article created about her was moved to the title Bigoted woman incident; what I deleted was the remaining redirect which linked her name to that title - see the discussion at ANI. The renamed article was deleted by another admin after this AfD where a strong consensus agreed that it was against the WP:NOTNEWS policy. That has been challenged at WP:DRV#Bigoted woman incident, which is the right place to comment if you think the incident is really more than a two days' wonder and needs more coverage than it has already got in United Kingdom general election, 2010#Notable campaign events; in any case, under the WP:BLP policy we should not have an article named for the unfortunate Mrs Duffy. JohnCD (talk) 09:50, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi, is there a way to handle articles like Non-Store Retailing that reference predominantly other wikipedia articles? Regards, Xtzou (Talk) 16:19, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Nevermind, someone removed the references. Xtzou (Talk) 18:17, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Fulda-Main Railway
Thanks, yes I'll create a page in due course.--Grahame (talk) 12:00, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
User pages ending up on "New pages"
Hi, User:Mefistofele page somehow ended up in "New pages". That is not common, is it. I requested Speedy deletion before I realized that it was a user page. I have undid my request. But I am wondering how that happened, and if it will happen again. Regards, Xtzou (Talk) 16:10, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- I have no idea how that could happen - my first thought was, it must not be a real user page, but it seems that it is; and the last edit before your speedy was eight days earlier, so I don't see what could have propelled it onto New Pages. You could ask at the WP:Help desk and see if anyone has an idea? JohnCD (talk) 16:16, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Re: User talk:66.99.63.66 - the school block you put earlier today
Hello, I just noticed on my Watchlist that this anon IP is doing test edits now on its talkpage. Nothing major - just mickey mouse ramblings. --Morenooso (talk) 20:51, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- So they are - doesn't look too serious. I'll keep an eye, tidy up when they get bored, and if necessary warn them that talk page access may be disabled if they don't stop. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 20:55, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Please stop deleting Mary L Washington
JohnCD,
I am writing from Baltimore, Maryland in the USA. I appreciate the work that you do to edit and organize Wikipedia. It is because of people like you that the site remains relevant, useful, and uncluttered by nonsense.
However, I think you are in error about your repeted deletion of the entry for Mary L Washington.
The Wikipedia policy for unimportant topics reads:
"A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content). An article about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. This criterion applies only to articles about web content and to articles about people, organizations, and individual animals themselves, not to articles about their books, albums, software, or other creative works. This criterion does not apply to species of animals, only to individual animal(s). The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source. The criterion does apply if the claim of significance or importance given is not credible. If the claim's credibility is unclear, you can improve the article yourself, propose deletion, or list the article at articles for deletion."
I would contend that a candidate for public office is, in fact, an important and significant person. The fact that we live far from you geographically does not mean that our electoral politics are irrelevant or uninportant. I feel quite certain that serious, credible candidates for public office are people of significance, regardless of whether they are in England, the US, or the Middle East.
Under the A7 rule, it does not matter whether the article could be longer (it should), better cited (it should), or beter cited (it should). These are all editing tasks that need to be accomplished, and I am happy for people to comment on ways to improve the entry. But once the article mentions credibly that she is a candidate for public office, the deletion provisions of A7 no longer apply.
Thank you very much.
Baltigreen (talk) 20:09, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- To start with, two disclaimers: first, I have not "repeatedly" deleted this article: as far as I know, it has only been deleted once though, after doing that, I also deleted as a matter of housekeeping a link to it from another article. Second, that I am British has nothing to do with it: Wikipedia is international and as an administrator I work by Wikipedia's rules and standards, not by my own knowledge or opinions.
- The A7 standard which you quote is the standard for speedy deletion, not for retention in the encyclopedia. Articles which pass A7 have to meet a higher standard if they are to be kept, but may only be deleted by more leisurely processes such as WP:Articles for deletion (a debate lasting seven days at the end of which an uninvolved administrator decides what is the consensus, based on the arguments not on the number of "votes".)
- One of the requirements for being kept is notability, defined as having had "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The detail of how this is applied in particular cases is a matter of consensus modified by continuing debate. For political candidates, until recently, the rule was that merely being an unelected candidate for political office was not considered to confer notability. There was good reason for this: one of the dangers for an anyone-can-edit encyclopedia is that it will be used as a free notice-board by people wishing to advertise or promote (or attack) something, and in an election atmosphere there is a risk that candidates' articles are likely to be used as campaign posters and/or be vandalised by opponents or their supporters.
- Until recently, articles about candidates were therefore routinely deleted. Recently the policy has been revised (see WP:POLITICIAN) to provide that, if the election itself is of enough significance to have an article, a candidate's article may be converted into a redirect to the election, so that someone searching for it is taken there. See, for example, Harriett Baldwin, a candidate for the UK Parliament at the forthcoming general election, whose article has been redirected to the section about the election in West Worcestershire (UK Parliament constituency). Before deleting Ms Washington's article, I checked to see if there was a reference to the coming mid-term election under Maryland General Assembly or Maryland House of Delegates District 43 to which it could be redirected, but there is not.
- So, in summary, the consensus at Wikipedia is that being a candidate for public office does not make someone notable, and if this article were nominated at WP:Articles for deletion, in my view it would be deleted - or redirected to Maryland House of Delegates District 43 if someone were to update that with a section on the forthcoming election, with a list of candidates.
- That leaves the question of whether being a candidate meets the lower A7 bar of "significance or importance". You believe it does; I don't, mainly because of the huge number of candidates for various offices all over the world, many of whom are not elected and are never heard of again, and also because in this case the nature of the claim is clear, and better citation would do nothing to help.
- However, that is a judgement call, and if you wish I will restore the article and nominate it for deletion under AfD. Alternatively, if you care to add a section to Maryland House of Delegates District 43 about the election, with a list of candidates, you can (or I will be happy to) create redirects for Ms Washington, and the other candidates, to that article. If you prefer, give me a list of the candidates and their parties, with a reference to a reliable source I can cite, and I will make a table in the article.
- Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:35, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks
If you tag something, it gets fixed :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:15, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your excellent summation. As you have no doubt noticed, I have become somewhat exasperated by the author's unending attempts to get this article about an entirely non-notable film permanently ensconced on WP. He's had multiple chances — I can't remember ever seeing an article go to AfD four times. It's time for this to go, once and for all. But I suspect he will try one more time. Keep the main article name bookmarked. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 01:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, the editor of Platinum Networkers doesn't get the idea and keeps removing tags. Best wishes, Xtzou (Talk) 14:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I ADF'd it. Hope that was the right thing to do. Xtzou (Talk) 14:48, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- That's one way to deal with it - probably better to work up through the warnings to {{uw-speedy4}}, they will usually stop by then, if not go to AIV. I've closed the AfD as a G11 speedy. JohnCD (talk) 20:04, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
My page: Alex Kenrick
Check out the new page and let me keep it until I can post a link to the youtube video Thank you Veteranken (talk) 18:21, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
3RR
I have stopped reverting Satpanth as I have reverted the same edit three times. I noticed you warned the editor in question regarding the 3 revert rule. The exact same edit has now been implemented multiple times by an IP. Another vandalfighter is currently reverting the page. Am I interpreting the 3RR correctly? --N419BH (talk) 18:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- You are right to be cautious: the rules are at WP:3RR and you will see that there is an exception for reverting "obvious vandalism – edits which any well-intentioned user would immediately agree constitute vandalism". In this case I don't think it was obvious vandalism - he was edit-warring to put his version in, but may have been well-intentioned. I have blocked the IP and another admin has blocked the user; I have also semi-protected the article for 6 hours in case they find another IP. I hope they will get the message. JohnCD (talk) 18:54, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks for your assistance and clarification. I actually think the editor has valid information, but it was unsourced, partially in a foreign language, deleted large quantities of content, and seemed to be a COI per the username. --N419BH (talk) 19:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have added a note to Satpanthi's talk page explaining WP:BRD and WP:DR. JohnCD (talk) 19:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks for your assistance and clarification. I actually think the editor has valid information, but it was unsourced, partially in a foreign language, deleted large quantities of content, and seemed to be a COI per the username. --N419BH (talk) 19:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
User name
Thanks for the comment. I was hoping that by including the name of the company I work for in my user name it would serve two prposes. 1. seperate my accounts so I can easily keep track of them and 2. provide a quick disclosure that I am part of the organization. I understand this service is not an advertising board and didn't mean to make it appear I was advertising...was just trying to meet the above mentioned 2 goals. I'll change the username to something else. I do appreciate the comments and help along the way as I am trying to meet both the spirit and letter of the wikipedia laws. Jbrown verint (talk) 19:11, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see any need for you to change your username. There are two issues here: the first is that accounts have to represent individuals, not groups, so account names that are those of companies are not allowed; but yours makes clear that you are an individual. The other issue is conflict of interest, and there you are quite right that a clear disclosure of your interest is a good thing. I'll put some appropriate links to help you on your talk page. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks John. I appreciate your assistance. Jbrown verint (talk) 19:47, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleted article seems to have been merged, not deleted
You were the closing admin at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moses as symbol in American history. The author of the deleted article simply merged it with Moses, see Moses#Symbol in American history. What do we normally do about this? I an others were unhappy with it before this was discovered. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 15:47, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have commented at Talk:Moses. JohnCD (talk) 21:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
TWINKLE
Hi, sorry to bother you. I was just wondering why I don't have full TW capabilities (I'm editing from a shared educational establishment I.P address). I still have the "warn" and "arv" tabs on the top of my window, but none of the normal article tags. Thanks. Claritas (talk) 11:35, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't know anything about Twinkle. Try posting at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle which seems to be fairly active. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I think it's because I'm using a rather primitive version of Internet explorer. Claritas (talk) 11:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Uogy
sir can you explain why the uogy is deleted its a popular group of university of gujrat(uog).please tell me wta=hat was the main error in that we have copy rights —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yahiyaiqbal (talk • contribs) 14:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- Notability explained on his talk page. JohnCD (talk) 14:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Favor?
Since you're hopefully online -- I'm wondering if I might entreat upon you to help me out with two other files (link) I'm thinking these might be the floorboards of the transclusion pyramids. Quite sorry to bother. — WCityMike 11:47, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done JohnCD (talk) 12:25, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sincere thanks again for the assistance, and I'm sorry the nesting went a little farther than I had expected. WCityMike 00:13, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Why hello ther
you imbasil that was a real incounter with the arn aedy himself if you do not intend in causing any hassel with me i shall see things through. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alberto einsteineo (talk • contribs) 12:15, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Source FM article deletion
Hey JohnCD I'm fairly new to Wikipedia, so I totally respect your decision to delete the article. However, I'm not quite sure why that happened - Source FM is a community radio show that broadcasts 14 hours a day to a potential of 40,000 listeners. Most of the time we achieve 5,000 listeners at any one time. If you could make me aware of the reasons you deleted the article - again, I respect your decision - then I can let you know whether or not it corresponds with what's actually going on as far as I'm aware. If you want more info, we have a website: www.thesourcefm.co.uk Thanks very much —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sourcefm (talk • contribs) 12:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- I just commented back on my page about the article, Sourcefm =)--Fumitol (talk) 13:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- (Username-blocked, invited to set up an individual account, but told about Notability and COI.) JohnCD (talk) 16:26, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your assistance JohnCD!--Fumitol (talk) 16:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- (Username-blocked, invited to set up an individual account, but told about Notability and COI.) JohnCD (talk) 16:26, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Dan Maes Deletion
Thank you for your feedback, now i finally understand. I will rework the page.
Is it possible to get a copy of the wikitext that was deleted so i can start with that? I run wikimedia at home, so i can clean it up there and repost. I was trying to get a page setup for Dan, and didn't really have a lot of information to start with so i used his BIO page as a starting point. I'll get with them first before i repost.
Eckirchn (talk) 16:43, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- As it is copyright, I can't restore it to a user page, but I have emailed you a copy. Check out WP:Your first article, WP:Notability and WP:Notability (people), especially WP:POLITICIAN, and be careful not to make it sound like an election manifesto - Wikipedia is extremely sensitive about being used for any kind of promotion. For instance, dump the section "Dan's Plan for Colorado" - anything like that would get it immediately deleted under speedy deletion clause G11 "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". You want a dry, neutrally-worded description of who he is and what he has done. JohnCD (talk) 17:11, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank You
Thanks for all your help on my talk page. I really appreciate it. --N419BH (talk) 17:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- My pleasure. Don't often get thanked for deletions! JohnCD (talk) 17:46, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Haha, I can say the same thing about warning vandals. I did get an interesting reply once... --N419BH (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Gillian Duffy as a redirect page
Hi!
I had just created a redirect page from Gillian Duffy to the Notable Incidents section of the Election article, and I decided that I should let you and the other deleting admin know about it out of courtesy. I then discovered that there was a major debate about it on the ANI page, so I decided to explain my actions there. If you still feel it should be deleted, I won't consider it wheel warring. Stephen! Coming... 13:45, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for letting me know. I have commented at the ANI discussion: for reasons explained there, I would prefer to delete the redirect again, but I will wait for others' views. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:13, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- If by the redirect for deletion, you mean the Bigotted woman incident page, I whole heartedly agree: delete, salt, bury radioactive waste to make sure no one recreates that article in any way shape or form. As for redirecting Gillian Duffy, I don't really see that as an issue, provided that what it redirects to is neutral in tone. However, I still stand by what I said about not minding if the consensus goes for a deletion, and I apprectiate you taking the stance on ANI of letting the consensus decide. Stephen! Coming... 15:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- There seems to be consensus to redelete and salt, so I have done that. I can see the case for having a link from the name to let people find out about the incident, but I think it is over-ridden by the consideration I have just put to someone in the DRV who said, we shouldn't say "X is a bigot", but it's OK to say "Y said X was a bigot": would you be happy if, for the rest of your life, a Wikipedia search for your name led to a statement that the Prime Minister said you were a bigot? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- If by the redirect for deletion, you mean the Bigotted woman incident page, I whole heartedly agree: delete, salt, bury radioactive waste to make sure no one recreates that article in any way shape or form. As for redirecting Gillian Duffy, I don't really see that as an issue, provided that what it redirects to is neutral in tone. However, I still stand by what I said about not minding if the consensus goes for a deletion, and I apprectiate you taking the stance on ANI of letting the consensus decide. Stephen! Coming... 15:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I'm not familiar with all the previous discussion on this, but would you comment please at Talk:Gillian Duffy? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:58, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Licensing Question
I've copied the instructions section at the top of this page and modified it for use on my talk page. I have changed the link so my talk page is the one edited, not yours. Is that legitimate under Wikipedia's license? --N419BH (talk) 02:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome, I'm pleased you like it. I'm not entirely satisfied, but haven't found time to tinker. I don't think licensing is an issue, but anyway I'm the only person who might have complained. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:56, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Pretty sure the first sentence at the bottom of the edit page applies: "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit here." Thought I'd let you know though as a courtesy. If I come up with any enlightening ways of improving it I'll let you know. Cheers! --N419BH (talk) 22:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, you're certainly allowed to copy, modify, and do what you like with it (including sell it); the only thing the license would require is that you attribute it to me. I will waive that. JohnCD (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll throw a little note on the bottom of it anyway. --N419BH (talk) 19:52, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, you're certainly allowed to copy, modify, and do what you like with it (including sell it); the only thing the license would require is that you attribute it to me. I will waive that. JohnCD (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Pretty sure the first sentence at the bottom of the edit page applies: "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit here." Thought I'd let you know though as a courtesy. If I come up with any enlightening ways of improving it I'll let you know. Cheers! --N419BH (talk) 22:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I am wondering if I tagged this correctly. At first I tagged it {{db-person}} (because it has a real person's facebook link in it), and then I tagged it {{vandalism}} because of the title. Which is right? Thanks, Xtzou (Talk) 19:30, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Either would do - I think I would choose A7 because it seems to be about a real person; G3 vandalism implies something the author could not possibly have intended as a valid encyclopedia article and one could (with enormous effort to AGF) just have imagined this was someone with no malicious intent though having no idea what WP is about. JohnCD (talk) 19:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Whoops. It's gone before I had a chance to change it. Thanks for your reply. Xtzou (Talk) 19:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Ryan Morrison
Thanks for cleaning that speedy deletion request off Ryan Morrison, it was placed there in error. You are correct that it's recent history is just vandalism and the article itself is fine beyond that. Sorry for the noise.--RadioFan (talk) 20:25, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Messages crossed - it may actually still be a hoax, but it will take a bit more digging and then maybe an AfD. JohnCD (talk) 20:30, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I'm having trouble finding sources. IMDB links dont cut it here as references (especially since this person isn't mentioned in either reference). It's been AFD'd, weigh in there if you can.--RadioFan (talk) 20:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Mrs. Duffy
Original quote:
For a policy reason, I would cite the passage in WP:BLP#Presumption in favor of privacy about: "...dealing with individuals whose notability stems largely or entirely from being victims of another's actions. Wikipedia editors must not act, intentionally or otherwise, in a way that amounts to participating in or prolonging the victimization." JohnCD (talk) 13:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
See my ANI response:
In essence, we need to decide what we want to include and then be consistent. The Mrs. Duffy issue potentially has the issue of supporters having one opinion and opponents having another. Once we are consistent, then that problem can be reduced. Should we come up with a practice that Wikipedia will not have obscure stuff, just mainstream stuff? Or everything goes? If we have a policy of "I will decide once I see it", then there will constantly be conflict. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 15:27, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
- This is the long-running argument between inclusionists and deletionists, and I fear it is not going to be settled any time soon. Discussion has managed to get WP:N agreed as a way of deciding what is obscure and what is mainstream, and WP:NOT as an attempt to set some boundaries, but there is still enough uncertainty and overlap for these arguments to keep recurring, and enough people who disagree with one or the other to be constantly testing the boundaries. JohnCD (talk) 20:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Douglaseivindhall
Douglaseivindhall left a message on my talk page prior to being blocked and he said he wants to edit as Douglaseivindhall. Consider blocking Dhall10067 indefinitely and change the indef block to temporary for Douglaseivindhall. Marcus Aurelius (talk) 16:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done but, if I read the message right, the account he wants to use is Douglaseivindhallgerber (talk · contribs), so I have transferred the temporary block to that one. JohnCD (talk) 21:34, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, never noticed the -gerber suffix.Marcus Aurelius (talk) 21:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you
Hi John, Thank you for your message and tips. I'm looking forward to being a contributor in the Wiki community. Cheers, EmilyPalm (talk) 20:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleting TheorecticalBullshit
This actually doesn't meet the speedy guidelines. It is not an attack page. Per the target's article page, and his youtube channel]. Please try to do a little research on things before deleting, but I could see how this could happen. Therefore I am recreating the redirects. Cheer. Adam in MO Talk 09:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Also I don't know who tagged it. But notifying the creator, or major contributor(s) of a AFD is standard procedure. Thanks.Adam in MO Talk 09:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right, sorry about that - it did look like an all-too-common form of sneaky attack article. And yes, the tagger should have notified you, I will have a word with her, she is fairly new. JohnCD (talk) 09:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah it's no big deal. I think the duck test probably failed us here.--Adam in MO Talk 10:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right, sorry about that - it did look like an all-too-common form of sneaky attack article. And yes, the tagger should have notified you, I will have a word with her, she is fairly new. JohnCD (talk) 09:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of TheoreticalBullshit
Sophie(: 10:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sophie, this is precisely the situation those warnings are meant to prevent. I am glad we can get something out of this. Happy Editing!--Adam in MO Talk 10:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Iv also made User:Sophie/csd for the pages iv tagged so i/you can track whats happend to them and if the deletion tags have been removed or not
- (edit conflict) Yes, the point of the warnings is to give the author time to make a case. Also, without one, the new author just sees his article isn't there, thinks he pressed the wrong button, and probably just puts it in again. If it is a new author who hasn't had a Welcome mesage, you should also give one before the speedy tag - {{firstarticle}} is a good one - which again gives useful links like WP:Your first article to help the newbie do better next time. We get a lot of criticism for presenting an unfriendly face to new contributors, and it's off-putting if the first message they get is a warning. Attack pages are one exception - I don't think it's sensible to say "thank you for your contributions" to an attacker.
- I agree, there is a problem with authors removing speedy tags from their articles, but if you put the page on your watchlist you can see if that happens, put the tag back and warn the author with {{uw-speedy1}} etc. Actually, there is a bot, SPDPatrolBot, which often does that for you. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- With adding {{firstarticle}} before the speedy, I'v noticed that when I add a speedy notice to someones unwelcomed page, It automatily added a welcome. see here cause I didnt persoanlly add the welcome notice. Sophie(: 11:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Some of them do, some of them don't - you just have to press "Show preview" and see whether you've got the effect you want. Also {{firstarticle}} seems to automatically add a signature, and the others don't. It would be nice if they were more consistent, but you get used to the differences. JohnCD (talk) 11:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- With adding {{firstarticle}} before the speedy, I'v noticed that when I add a speedy notice to someones unwelcomed page, It automatily added a welcome. see here cause I didnt persoanlly add the welcome notice. Sophie(: 11:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I agree, there is a problem with authors removing speedy tags from their articles, but if you put the page on your watchlist you can see if that happens, put the tag back and warn the author with {{uw-speedy1}} etc. Actually, there is a bot, SPDPatrolBot, which often does that for you. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
yeah
oh no it's not facebook.. thanks I couldn't tell since it's something entirely different... thanks to you and your crew i won't be creating any pages on here ever. awesome. DSWJR (talk) 00:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- someones not happy :P Sophie(: 09:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- Can't please everyone :( --JohnCD (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- yea :( but some people got to learn the rules :P, also got your message :), althought there was a hidden message at the top of my talk page, but i dont think you see it when you make a new section, but iv added an edit notice now :) Sophie(: 11:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Can't please everyone :( --JohnCD (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Good close. I totally forgot to block Peoplemedia (talk · contribs) during all my cleanup, so I'm glad you did that... — Scientizzle 22:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- They haven't edited since August 08, but just as well to have them blocked before they come back to try to promote another client. JohnCD (talk) 11:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)