User talk:JMHamo/Archive 6

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues

What is your objection to treating A-League for the New Zealand teams the same way we treat MLS, NASL, and USL for Canadian teams at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues? Nfitz (talk) 22:50, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I have started a new discussion here New Zealand as you failed to do so... JMHamo (talk) 11:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay ... I didn't see the point, as it was a such a minor clean-up edit, that I couldn't for a second imagine would create any controversy. Nfitz (talk) 01:14, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Football athlete pages

Hi there! I have a question and was wondering if you can help me with it. I often do new page patrol, and frequently come across short pages made about professional football players or other athletes. At this point I just skip by them as am not familiar with what soccer clubs would produce notable enough players for inclusion. If I were to, say, research a page when it pops up to determine notability, where would you suggest I go to find that a) the team is notable enough for its players to have their own pages or b) what achievements the player is required to have in order to have their own page? Feel free to direct me to a policy page if you feel that's the best way of determining notability. Jeremy112233 (talk) 20:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

For football (soccer), the best thing to do is post on the WikiProject Football Talk page and you'll get the help you need :) JMHamo (talk)

Thank you! Jeremy112233 (talk) 21:03, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Mahmoud Najdi

Hello. Now I've had a proper look, it's as near as dammit identical to the pre-existing Mahmout Najdi with a "t". The spelling with a "t" is used in the Kicker reference in the article, and in Soccerway, but the article on de.wiki spells him with a "d". As the stats sources prefer the "t" spelling, I'll redirect him to Mahmout Najdi, if anyone knows better, they can sort it out. Whatever the correct transliteration, he's real enough and notable enough. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:28, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

LOI players

Is there any chance you could stop deleting pages? There is no justification for this vandalism. You need to change the rules. Wiki is losing people who go to the trouble of making pages only to have deleted by pettiness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.254.165 (talk) 21:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Have a read of Notability of players competing in the League Of Ireland on WikiProject Football for some background on League of Ireland players. I hope this helps you understand the situation a bit better. JMHamo (talk) 21:22, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, JMHamo. You have new messages at Malik Shabazz's talk page.
Message added 03:11, 7 March 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Ross Benjamin

With your permission, I have taken off the Speedy Delete tag. Notability has been asserted through two major translation prize wins. I have created almost 900 new articles on Wiki [1] so I do know the difference between what is notable and what is not. Thanks. --Peripatetic (talk) 14:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

You can't remove a speedy deletion tag from a page you created yourself. JMHamo (talk) 14:31, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Then perhaps you'd like to remove it, seeing that notability has been established? It's kind of disfiguring the page :-) -- Peripatetic (talk) 17:22, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, JMHamo. You have new messages at Musicologique's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Please find my answer and my talk page about the article you tagged for deletion about Gang Recording Studio. Thank you for your time

CSD tagging

A couple of comments about your tagging of articles. First, you can't use WP:CSD#A7 for an album or a song. You can only use WP:CSD#A9 and then only if both prongs are met. Second, for both WP:CSD#A1 and WP:CSD#A3, you must wait at least 10 minutes from article creation before using those tags (see the footnote that applies to both).--Bbb23 (talk) 18:20, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind... JMHamo (talk) 18:53, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi JM. Have a look at Σεμπάστιαν Μπιένιεκ. You tagged it A1 only 2 minutes after creation. There's a lot of context, but in Greek. It's an A10 on Sebastian Bieniek. Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 18:25, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

SPI notification

Hey, just letting you know that I not only snow closed the AfD for Warx2 and salted the article, but I added the two SPAs on the AfD to the SPI you started. I also posted the SPI notice on their pages, since I didn't see where you posted it on any of the editors' pages. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:53, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I also gave Guputa1111 a stern warning for the accusations he made about you and Cindamuse. Let me know if he continues, as I've outright told him that further behavior along these lines will lead to a block. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:13, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help Tokyogirl79, much appreciated. JMHamo (talk) 10:22, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Bug Bounty Programs can be improved.

Thank you for patrolling!
I think Bug Bounty Programs is not reflecting any form promotion all it need some clean-up (some technical errors corrected by me), I have also removed the speedy deletion template and placed following template-

You may join the Talk:Bug Bounty Programs on the same topic. WOWIndian ^Talk 17:00, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Slimane Azem

I was wondering what I could do to avoid this speedy deletion. I will add more information about his biography in the future. In fact I thought that creating the page in english will attract new edits from other users. --Kiwi (talk) 16:54, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

- Thank you for not answering, and your tenacity to delete the page --Kiwi (talk) 11:12, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

WP:A11 on Surukot

Just to let you know that I've declined your WP:A11 on Surokot, as it is clearly not invented by the creator and a quick google search shows it as a real place (see this link for example.) Please do WP:BEFORE you add CSD tags. Thanks, Valenciano (talk) 09:21, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Kripa shankar chatterjee

Hi. I've declined your speedy as I reckon he passes A7 through having been an MLA. That's equivalent to being a member of the Welsh Assembly or of a state legislature in the US. How encyclopaedic the article is, that's another kettle of fish... Peridon (talk) 09:58, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I agree, a lot of work needed to bring it up to standard JMHamo (talk) 10:01, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

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African U-17 Championship squads

Thanks for the heads up TonyStarks (talk) 03:03, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Question

Hi, please don't take offence at this question. I wonder, do you contribute substantially towards wikipedia? Or do you prefer to just remove articles, further discouraging new editors and encyclopaedic development? After you triple nominations, I'm left questioning whether I should bother contributing to Wikipedia anymore. I think I should just setup my own mediawiki and leave this site because of editors like yourself, aggressively enforcing rules. WP:BRICKS Ayoopdog (talk) 23:41, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry you feel that way. Your pages have been nominated for deletion based on the fact that they do not satisfy Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. You are welcome to participate in the deletion discussion. Also, reading WP:5P may help you understand the principles by which Wikipedia operates. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 23:58, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

If you are uncertain whether or not an article should be deleted, it is best not to rush to have it deleted. Alternatives should be considered such as discussing issues with the article on the talk page. Don't ruin Wikipedia by letting overzealousness consume you WP:OVERZEALOUS. Ayoopdog (talk) 15:42, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

You may want to read WP:COI yourself. JMHamo (talk) 17:44, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

User:Rocatan

Please don't tag these accounts. Leave it for an SPI clerk or an administrator. For one thing, at the time you placed the tag on this puppet, it wasn't accurate because they had not yet been indefinitely blocked (now they are). But, even so, it's not your place to tag in this manner, even assuming you have the best of intentions. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:40, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem, was only trying to help. Thank you for keeping me in my place.

JMHamo (talk) 00:42, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

I hope I didn't sound overly harsh. I know you were trying to help. Unfortunately, sock tagging is a lot more complicated than many editors realize, i.e., which tag to use, whether to tag at all, etc. And not every administrator agrees, so best thing is just to leave it be. Think of it as one less thing to do on Wikipedia. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 00:54, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

No sweat - I understand the process quite well and thanks for doing the indefinite block. I'm happy that I used the correct CU tags as I noticed you didn't need to correct them. Keep up the good Admin work. JMHamo (talk) 01:01, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

re: Your draft article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dr K Ravvi Kumarr

I'm not the original author. Could you notify that person? Thanks. --Lexein (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Keith Costigan: Another editor removed the proposed deletion tag

Another editor removed the proposed deletion tag that you added to Keith Costigan with the comment "Played in the A-League which is fully pro. Meets WP:NFOOTBALL." Eastmain (talk • contribs) 11:17, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that, just haven't had the time to update the article with the citation that seems to prove he passes WP:NFOOTBALL. JMHamo (talk) 11:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Buccellati

Hello JMHamo. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Buccellati, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: not particularly promotional IMO. Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 22:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, sent it to AfD now... JMHamo (talk) 22:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Football at the Military World Games

Certainly; redirect (citing the AFD) and if you get reverted then we can take them to AFD then. Giant Snowman 18:02, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Mo Shariff

I've copied and pasted what I wrote on Katieh5584's talk page below.

Hi, a number of sources list Shariff as being born in Newham rather than Burundi. The ever-reliable Find My Past lists an Abdulla Mohamed Sharif as being born in Newham in 1993, a very similar name to the one registered with the Premier League (cited on the page). Based on this, I would say it is too much of a coincidence and that he was probably born in Newham rather than Burundi. Given that pretty much every source lists him as English too, I think it is most likely that the QPR website is wrong on this one. Cg29692 (talk) 18:52, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the article Talk page and build consensus before reverting, per WP:BRD. JMHamo (talk) 18:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Apologies. I've posted the above on the article talk page. Cg29692 (talk) 18:57, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Master Mena

Hi. I've taken your tag off, as the article had just been restored per REFUND by FreeRangeFrog. It wasn't possible to see this from the history, so you wouldn't have known. Peridon (talk) 13:37, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks JMHamo (talk) 13:42, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

About Gamemaster eleven's article Kyle Hyland

I think It meets all the criteria in the General notability guideline, how does it not??? Allthatjaz (talk) 22:55, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

He fails WP:NFOOTBALL because he has not played senior first team football for a club playing in a fully professional league JMHamo (talk) 22:58, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

About article Kyle Hyland

Did I fix what Was requested??? Gamemaster eleven (talk) 23:22, 3 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamemaster eleven (talk • contribs)

No, he has not made his league debut yet, so is therefore not notable. Once he makes his debut, it will pass WP:NFOOTBALL, Also, I don't know if you're aware, that you're only allowed one Wikipedia account. Could you let me know if Allthatjaz is also you so it can be blocked? Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 23:30, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Your Inquiry on user Allthatjaz

Yes Allthatjaz is me. This is only may third day on Wikipedia and I didn't know You Were only allowed one account. yes please delete Allthatjaz. My appologies Gamemaster eleven (talk) 00:28, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I have arranged to have it blocked. JMHamo (talk) 00:40, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Done Giant Snowman 20:20, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Duplicate articles

Hi, you need WP:HISTMERGE. Giant Snowman 08:28, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Also, regarding the AFDs, you probably would have been better of WP:BUNDLEing them. Giant Snowman 08:39, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I would have bundled them as I did with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AFC U-14 Championship if I realized in time. It was only after I noticed. JMHamo (talk) 09:34, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Ethel Howes

Hi, I saw you put a speedy deletion message on my page and I think that was wrong. She was important because she was a prominent psychologist and I am currently editing the page. I think you were too quick to put a notice on my page while it was still clearly under construction. Melissah135 (talk) 19:00, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Use your Sandbox to work on articles and situations like this won't happen... JMHamo (talk) 19:46, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I prefer to begin working on articles in the mainspace and, like I said, it was still clearly under construction. Maybe next time you shouldn't put a speedy deletion on a page that just began construction minutes before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melissah135 (talk • contribs) 20:11, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Also consider WP:AFC JMHamo (talk) 20:17, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I can assure you, the articles I write are backed by valid sources and I don't need to wait several weeks to have them approved. Melissah135 (talk) 20:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I have no doubt that the articles are notable, but if you work in your Sandbox and get the article up to standard before moving them in to the Main space, you will avoid the inconvenience of Speedy deletion and BLPPROD tags like this one on your other Gloria Chisum article. JMHamo (talk) 20:36, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate your help reviewing every article I've ever written on Wikipedia. I believe I've now satisfied your complaints, however, feel free to continue stalking my contributions page. Melissah135 (talk) 21:08, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

In general, you don't slap a speedy deletion tag on an article that has the {{under construction}} template, JMH. That's just being needlessly process-beholden. Furthermore, overhasty CSD tagging is a major reason for new editors leaving Wikipedia (e.g. these Signpost articles: 1, 2, the whole reason for developing the VisualEditor, etc., etc.). Can you please not continue this practice? Thanks, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 22:07, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Joshuaforest

Thanks, blocked him. Giant Snowman 20:02, 5 April 2014 (UTC)