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Guild of Copy Editors February 2017 News

Guild of Copy Editors February 2017 News Hello everyone, and welcome to the February 2017 GOCE newsletter. The Guild has been busy since the last time your coordinators sent out a newsletter! >>> Sign up for the March Drive! <<< December blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 11 through 17 December; the themes were Requests and eliminating the November 2015 backlog. Of the 14 editors who signed up, nine editors completed 29 articles. Barnstars and rollover totals are located here. Thanks to all who took part. January drive: The January drive was a great success. We set out to remove December 2015 and January and February 2016 from our backlog (195 articles), and by 22 January we had cleared those and had to add a third month (March 2016). At the end of the month we had almost cleared out that last month as well, for a total of 180 old articles removed from the backlog! We reduced our overall backlog by 337 articles, to a low of 1,465 articles, our second-lowest month-end total ever. We also handled all of the remaining requests from December 2016. Officially, 19 editors recorded 337 copy edits (over 679,000 words). February blitz: The one-week February blitz, focusing on the remaining March 2016 backlog and January 2017 requests, ran from 12 to 18 February. Seven editors reduced the total in those two backlog segments from 32 to 10 articles, leaving us in good shape going in to the March drive. Coordinator elections for the first half of 2017: In December, coordinators for the first half of 2017 were elected. Jonesey95 stepped aside as lead coordinator, remaining as coordinator and allowing Miniapolis to be the lead, and Tdslk and Corinne returned as coordinators. Thanks to all who participated! Speaking of coordinators, congratulations to Jonesey95 on their well-deserved induction into the Guild of Copy Editors Hall of Fame. The plaque reads: "For dedicated service as lead coordinator (2014, 1 July – 31 December 2015 and all of 2016) and coordinator (1 January – 30 June 2015 and 1 January – 30 June 2017); exceptional template-creation work (considerably streamlining project administration), and their emphasis on keeping the GOCE a drama-free zone." Housekeeping note: We do not send a newsletter before every drive or blitz. To have a better chance of knowing when the next event will start, add the GOCE's message box to your watchlist. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Miniapolis, Jonesey95, Corinne and Tdslk. >>> Sign up for the March Drive! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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March Madness 2017

G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:

• tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
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Roanoke Colony

My source said 18-carat, but then they got the spelling of "karat" wrong too. I'll report it and tell them what you said.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:29, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Karat gold is determined as parts per 24. 24k gold is 100% gold -pure - no added alloy(s). 18karat is 18/24k, or 75% gold & 25% alloy. 12k is 50%; and so forth. 10k gold (a later developed American standard) is rounded to 42%. 9k (the British standard - which the ring more than likely would have been if indeed it was genuine) is only 38% gold and 62% alloy. Whatever source you are using doesn't seem too reliable if it is getting such basics wrong. Hope that helps. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 18:31, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

You didn't ping me so I didn't see this. The Smithsonian "doesn't seem too reliable"?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

You didn't initially say what your source was, but I'd check it again. :-) GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 20:55, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Here is the source but I would have expected better. I need your help with something else, below.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:17, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Is there anything useful in This article?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:27, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

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Star Trek

Hi there, sorry about my revert. I was reading on my phone and thought you had removed the columns from the main references section. My mistake. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:58, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

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Milk lines

Hello GenQuest - think the milk line merge needs to be the other way about with Mammary crest the target. Any objections, thoughts.? --Iztwoz (talk) 07:22, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Either way works. Was following the merge request. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 07:32, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Will change it - sometimes the merge requests get mixed up - Thanks --Iztwoz (talk) 07:34, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

{moved to hall of fame}

Thank you. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 16:15, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

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User:Vchimpanzee/Patrick Lambert (Cherokee chief)

You seem to have some interest in Cherokee chiefs. I visited the Qualla Boundary with my former neighbors a few years back and saw a campaign billboard, but more importantly, lately I've been seeing articles in the Asheville Citizen-Times about the impeachment of the most recent chief. I thought I'd try writing an article for him, but I'm not getting anywhere. I'd appreciate any advice on what to include and where to find it from whoever is interested.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:27, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi, V. I'm not that well versed or follow much of the modern Cherokee Nations. My wife is part Cherokee, and I find the history of the peoples interesting and somewhat illuminating, and the sources regarding them somewhat more encyclopedic overall. Does the AC Times allow archival searching? Western North Carolina newspapers might be worth some searching also. You can try JSTOR or Highbeam or one of the other academic services for additional information or leads. User @Ocaasi: may be able to get you access for one of those services to do additional research. Usually you just have to ask what's available and you two can figure out which one best meets your needs, then use it periodically in article creations. Good luck with your article! GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 20:38, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

I was really needing advice on what to include. But I haven't had much luck searching. Thanks for responding.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:44, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Hey There. Using our A-Z Sources search I find several Cherokee publications from EBSCO, Newspaperarchive, and Newspapers.com. Those are the 3 I'd sign up for! link to search. Cheers! Jake Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 21:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

I'd look at prior articles regarding impeachments (Clinton, Nixon, Johnson) to get content and organization ideas. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 21:14, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

No, I don't want to write about his impeachment. That's already done, and devoting most of the article to that means it wouldn't be balanced.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:25, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Ocaasi I'm not finding anything about Patrick Lambert in any of those publications. A lot of them aren't even related to the Cherokee people other than the fact they cover a county or community named for them.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 14:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

I went ahead and finished my draft. I'd appreciate someone looking at it. There's very little about Lambert other than the impeachment, but since I found some information about his career prior to becoming chief, that may have been enough for just getting it to article space.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:26, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

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Sarah Bernhardt

Dear GenQuest: When you have the time, could you take another look at Sarah Bernhardt? I've added a large number of new online citations (now over two hundred); and I have done extensive cleanup. The article is now comparable in structure, length, style and tone with the articles on other major actresses (Audrey Hepburn, Katherine Hepburn, etc.). Please let me know what other changes might be needed needed in order to remove the tags on the heading. Cordially, SiefkinDR (talk) 18:14, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

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Please, close Merger discussion

see this page [[1]] Thank youA ri gi bod (talk) 17:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

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July 2017 edits reverted

Hello,

With all due respect, I believe my edits do not violate MoS, based on the following sentence of MOS:CAPFRAG, located at https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Captions#Formatting_and_punctuation

"If any complete sentence occurs in a caption, then all sentences, and any sentence fragments, in that caption should end with a period." (emphasis mine)

I believe I have followed this policy perfectly based on the fact that both captions are indeed complete sentences, with explanations in parentheses. To wit:

"Self-conscious about his rosacea, Morgan hated being photographed." (Even the last four words alone are a complete sentence. The preceding words do not invalidate this or suddenly cause a complete sentence to become incomplete.)

and

"Morgan's role in the economy was denounced as overpowering in this political cartoon." (This sentence could end at "overpowering" and still be complete.)

That is why I gave them periods, as the rule above indicates I should have.

If I am incorrect, please tell me why. I honestly do not believe that to be the case, and would never intentionally violate a rule in the MoS.

Warmest regards, 1980fast (talk) 21:21, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello, @1980fast:. Reading the current wording of that section of the MOS, I see where you get the impression that a single complete sentence is the guide for periods or final stops in captioning. That part of the MOS has apparently been slowly changed through the years, and I am not sure it is in a correct form currently. For example, the two samples given are grammatically wrong. I would encourage you at present to forego similar changes to existing articles, per wp:Status quo, while this gets sorted out. I am checking the other manuals of style and researching now where and when these changes took place at Wikipedia, what -if any- consensus there was for these changes, and will probably be initiating a discussion as to where we should go from here. Thanks for your patience. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 04:02, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, @GenQuest: I was completely unaware there were any changes, and the text I have quoted is indeed the only version of it that I have ever found. Can you clue me in as to how one should properly search MoS, so that I may see these changes (for example, the reading you relied upon) to know when MoS can and cannot be taken at face value? I am genuinely grateful for the heads-up. If I had any clue that the version I found was not derived from consensus, I would never have made those or any similar edits. I would also like to know how I can be kept in the loop on any discussion you may initiate, so that I may know the consensus that is ultimately reached therefrom, and edit accordingly in the future. 1980fast (talk) 05:47, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

@1980fast:; I'll ping you when the discussion gets going. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 06:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, @GenQuest:! Very much appreciated! 1980fast (talk) 04:46, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

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re sock revert

I noticed your post about the IP being a sock. I've had some issues with the same IP that are very similar to edits made by User:HansMair. Perhaps they are one and the same user. Brad (talk) 01:22, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello, @Brad101: I have to disagree with you on any similarities between these two. The two editors show very different editing styles, as well as community interaction styles. 208.184.211.50 is [more than likely] another new sock of User:Duane E. Tressler, who has used multiple IPs for a couple of years now, all of which show a remarkably consistent editing style. This one doesn't fit the bill. From what I have seen so far, HM seems to be here to build an encyclopedia, and I am not seeing disruption on his part. Or is there something I am missing? Please, let me know. FYI: There is a CheckUser system available for researching reporting suspected socks. If you are interested, you can report him on that page, and they'll do the rest. You will need to provide illustrative edit-history diffs to make your case. Regards, GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 20:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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about Ching Hai

Hallo GenQuest, Thank you for your message. With respect, but which of my edit violate NPOV ? Do you really think Ching is the first name and Hai is the last name? What involves NPOV? Please kindly let me know. Thank you! Janberlin (talk) 21:22, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

It's the wording. Phrasing in articles such as (and this is paraphrased from the article:) "..is officially known as Supreme Master..." is not encyclopedic unless sourced to a Reliable, third party source (the italics and bolding are mine). The source referencing the statement you inserted is considered a primary source, so neutrality is not a given. The previous wording to the addition of your edits was more neutral in tone, that's why the change was made.

Understand: anyone, or anyplace, or anything being referred to (or using an honorific such) as "Supreme," "Glorious," "Most Exalted," "Grandest Poobahnic," etc. are by their very nature non-neutral representations of a person, place, or thing. Such words are considered weasel words in Wikipedia, and the battle to weed them out of articles about editors' favorite person, place, or thing is relentless and on going. That kind of phraseology is bound to attract alot of attention—and quickly so—around here. There are exceptions, especially when it comes to royalty, so know that other stuff exists on Wikipedia, and it is handled in a case-by-case manner.

I hope this gives you an idea of what is expected in an article about a living person. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 21:58, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

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Seeking support for proposed Wikiproject Quantum Mechanics

Hi, thanks for all your contributions! I'm reaching out to members of the community who might be interested in a Wikiproject dedicated to QM. The goal is to create articles which can be read and understood by laypersons but that also thoroughly present the technical details of the subject. As it stands now, too many QM articles feature ledes filled with jargon and lack introduction or overview sections.

I hope you'll support the proposal and contribute as a member when the time comes.

Thanks

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Here's the proposal page. Forgot that last time :-| Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 03:03, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

I would support this, don't know what kind of help I'd be, though. Let me know. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"}

User talk:208.184.211.50

So, I was actually the one who blocked User talk:Duane E. Tressler two years ago, and indeed I see a resemblance. Do you have more evidence, are there more accounts? Is there socking, clear block evasion on specific articles? If you respond here please ping me; I'm going back to look at more of that IP's edits. Drmies (talk) 03:58, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

@Drmies:Taking a break from a wiki-break. I'll try to make some time to investigate. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 16:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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This has been authorized

Your behavior on Wikipedia is shameful. You are standing in the way of constructive editing. I have been authorized to use my people's special brand of sorcery to adversely affect your credit score. Below 600... here you come! Your unpleasantness does have its consequences. Shalom. 185.77.248.9 (talk) 23:57, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. Rest assured, they will be given all the proper consideration for which they are due. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 00:09, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	For your work. HindWiki (Love My India) • Talk to Hindustani ! 11:10, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks! GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 19:10, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Draft:Music of Stranger Things

Hello GenQuest. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Draft:Music of Stranger Things, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Actually, this was a cut-paste move from draft-space to main-space.We perform hist-merges in such cases, to preserve attribution and these particular cross-space redirects are almost-always kept. Thank you. Winged Blades ^Godric 11:17, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

@Winged Blades of Godric: Cut and Paste moves from the Draft realm might as well be cut and paste moves from your own laptop, the redirect cross-realm pointer is really not necessary, IMO, or has there actually developed a consensus to do it that way? I really don't mess with the Draft space very often and should probably know the right way to do it. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"}

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Thanks for helping with the merge backlog!

That was getting pretty moldy. Good work! Homunq (࿓) 21:54, 21 November 2017 (UTC) ps. I'm hoping you finish the voting method merge soon. But even if not, great job.

Still thanks a lot. But if you're not going to finish the job on voting method, can you remove the "working" tag on the requested merges page? Homunq (࿓) 21:52, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Bump... Homunq (࿓) 19:51, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Again, thanks for handling the stuff that you did handle. As for this one... if you don't do this by December 15th, is it OK if I remove your "working" comment on the request for merges page, so that somebody else can do it? Homunq (࿓) 18:06, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

That's fine. Too busy in RL right now to do much. Regards, GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 13:41, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

It seems that this is just going stale again. I think doing this merge should be almost as simple as just changing voting method to a redirect; so if you could help with this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks either way! Homunq (࿓) 16:56, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

New Page Reviewing

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I'll consider it @Insertcleverphrasehere:. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 16:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Redirect of Urban Field to Urban Agriculture

Hi - just catching up with my watchlist emails, and I see you completed this redirect. Thanks for that. I fear you might have misunderstood the direction the merger discussion was going in, as Urban Agriculture has nothing to do with the uncited concept of Urban field - which, if anything, is more of a planning/human population term in which 'field' is synonymous with 'area'. To support 'urban field' meaning the same as 'urban area' see here, here, here, here and here, for example. Whilst I accept there was not much input, the mood really was away from the original merger proposal which you implemented, and towards my recommendation of a redirect to Urbanism. I genuinely think this makes far more sense, but wanted to raise this with you first, rather than cause annoyance by making a unilateral change. Are you Ok if I go ahead and make the logical change to this redirect? I'm happy to discuss further, of course. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 02:50, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

(PS: I hope you agree to joining us on the WP:NPP team - there's still a 13,500 article backlog that needs checking!. Nick.)

@Nick Moyes: that re-target of the redirect is acceptable and should happen going by the discussion you folks had at the article talk page. Sorry I missed it. Thanks for the feedback. Further, I will consider your request regarding NPP. Thanks again. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 16:25, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting

As we approach the end of the year, the Military History project is looking to recognise editors who have made a real difference. Each year we do this by bestowing two awards: the Military Historian of the Year and the Military History Newcomer of the Year. The co-ordinators invite all project members to get involved by nominating any editor they feel merits recognition for their contributions to the project. Nominations for both awards are open between 00:01 on 2 December 2017 and 23:59 on 15 December 2017. After this, a 14-day voting period will follow commencing at 00:01 on 16 December 2017. Nominations and voting will take place on the main project talkpage: here and here. Thank you for your time. For the co-ordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:36, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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User group for Military Historians

Greetings,

"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2017 News

Guild of Copy Editors December 2017 News Hello copy editors! Welcome to the December 2017 GOCE newsletter, which contains nine months(!) of updates. The Guild has been busy and successful; your diligent efforts in 2017 has brought the backlog of articles requiring copy edit to below 1,000 articles for the first time. Thanks to all editors who have contributed their time and energy to help make this happen. >>> Sign up for the January Drive! <<< >>> Participate in the Coordinator Elections! <<< Our copy-editing drives (month-long backlog-reduction drives held in odd-numbered months) and blitzes (week-long themed editing in even-numbered months) have been very successful this year. March drive: We set out to remove April, May, and June 2016 from our backlog and all February 2017 Requests (a total of 304 articles). By the end of the month, all but 22 of these articles were cleared. Officially, of the 28 who signed up, 22 editors recorded 257 copy edits (439,952 words). (These numbers do not always make sense when you compare them to the overall reduction in the backlog, because not all editors record every copy edit on the drive page.) April blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 16 through 22 April; the theme was Requests. Of the 15 who signed up, 9 editors completed 43 articles (81,822 words). May drive: The goals were to remove July, August, and September 2016 from the backlog and to complete all March 2017 Requests (a total of 300 articles). By the end of the month, we had reduced our overall backlog to an all-time low of 1,388 articles. Of the 28 who signed up, 17 editors completed 187 articles (321,810 words). June blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 18 through 24 June; the theme was Requests. Of the 16 who signed up, 9 editors completed 28 copy edits (117,089 words). 2017 Coordinator elections: In June, coordinators for the second half of 2017 were elected. Jonesey95 moved back into the lead coordinator position, with Miniapolis stepping down to remain as coordinator; Tdslk and Corinne returned as coordinators, and Keira1996 rejoined after an extended absence. Thanks to all who participated! July drive: We set out to remove August, September, October, and November 2016 from the backlog and to complete all May and June 2017 Requests (a total of 242 articles). The drive was an enormous success, and the target was nearly achieved within three weeks, so that December 2016 was added to the "old articles" list used as a goal for the drive. By the end of the month, only three articles from 2016 remained, and for the second drive in a row, the backlog was reduced to a new all-time low, this time to 1,363 articles. Of the 33 who signed up, 21 editors completed 337 articles (556,482 words). August blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 20 through 26 August; the theme was biographical articles tagged for copy editing for more than six months (47 articles). Of the 13 who signed up, 11 editors completed 38 copy edits (42,589 words). September drive: The goals were to remove January, February, and March 2017 from the backlog and to complete all August 2017 Requests (a total of 338 articles). Of the 19 who signed up, 14 editors completed 121 copy edits (267,227 words). October blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 22 through 28 October; the theme was Requests. Of the 14 who signed up, 8 editors completed 20 articles (55,642 words). November drive: We set out again to remove January, February, and March 2017 from the backlog and to complete all October 2017 Requests (a total of 207 articles). By the end of the month, these goals were reached and the backlog shrank to its lowest total ever, 997 articles, the first time it had fallen under one thousand (click on the graph above to see this amazing feat in graphical form). It was also the first time that the oldest copy-edit tag was less than eight months old. Of the 25 who signed up, 16 editors completed 159 articles (285,929 words). 2018 Coordinator elections: Voting is open for the election of coordinators for the first half of 2018. Please visit the election page to vote between now and December 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Thanks for participating! Housekeeping note: We do not send a newsletter before (or after) every drive or blitz. To have a better chance of knowing when the next event will start, add the GOCE's message box to your watchlist. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Miniapolis, Corinne, Tdslk, and Keira1996. >>> Sign up for the January Drive! <<< >>> Participate in the Coordinator Elections! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Type 91 torpedo

Hi. I noticed that you had had a go at copy editing this. And marked your edit 1st pass. Having made a stab myself at sorting it out I am gritting my teeth already, so I know what you mean. I am boldly editing on the grounds that I can hardly make it worse. But please feel free to chip in, you can hardly have less experience than me - all assistance gratefully received. Oh, and thanks for the thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:04, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I am really very busy running a project in RL right now, so don't have a lot of free time to work on Wikipedia much. I will go through it as time allows, but you should carry on if so inclined. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 00:12, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

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Mount Tabor Indian Community

GenQuest, thank you for your note. I apologize for doing this page rather backwards. I have not built any pages since 2008 and have done little editing since then as well. Due to health situations, my comprehension is not what it was, or maybe it's getting older, but I refuse to accept that part. :-) I thank all for patience as I put this together. I completely changed it from the initial page, as it was just too long. Kinda hard to put over 170 years of history down without a book. The Texas State Historical Association has done a good job and I was involved in that, with that 1 page taking almost a year and a half due to length and data vetting.

What I do need help with is pictures! I just cannot figure how to do it. I am very involved as a historian and genealogist associated with the Mount Tabor Indian Community, so I have a wealth of photos that would qualify for this page and at least 5 others I have done back in 2008. Any help you can give me would be so greatly appreciated.

Another issue I am unclear on is signature. I have got it on how to do it on here, but on edits, not sure where to put a signature or on the page I created recently. I don't remember putting a signature on any old pages I created between 2005-2008. I would like to be more involved, but I need to bring the brain up to speed.

Thank you again for any help you can give me.

Terran57 (talk) 00:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)Terran57Terran57 (talk) 00:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

@Terran57: you have done a good job on the page content. There are some style and wiki issues, but they are easily fixed. When you are done and comfortable with your content additions, let me know and I'll do a complete copy-edit for you.

As far as signatures, just use the four tildes (~~~~) on these kinds of talk pages, but never in the articles themselves. Your article contributions can be found by anyone looking at the "View History" button above the article title when on the page. We don't sign articles around here because of the collaborative nature of the project.

Pictures are another beast. Where did you get these pictures? Pictures, maps, etc. you'll have to upload to Wikipedia Commons, where you would have to assign a copyright license for legal purposes. They have to be licensed as either your own created pictures, or as attributable to the original author(s). If they are in the public domain or educational, there are licenses for that, too. I'm not well versed myself on all the ramifications of attribution, but I can find you the people or resources to help you with that when you are ready. Let me know if I can help you.

Thanks again for your efforts at adding to Wikipedia. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 01:53, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

@GenQuest:

Thank you very much for your assistance. I finished edits on the page today. Although I have went over it twice, I am sure I missed a typo or two, pus I would welcome style and Wiki issues assistance as you see fit. Again, thank you.

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GOCE February 2018 news

Guild of Copy Editors February 2018 News Welcome to the February 2018 GOCE newsletter in which you will find Guild updates since the December edition. We got to a great start for the year, holding the backlog at nine months. 100 requests were submitted in the first 6 weeks of the year and were swiftly handled with an average completion time of 9 days. >>> Sign up for the March Drive! <<< Coordinator elections: In December, coordinators for the first half of 2018 were elected. Jonesey95 remained as lead coordinator and Corrine, Miniapolis and Tdslk as assistant coordinators. Keira1996 stepped down as assistant coordinator and was replaced by Reidgreg. Thanks to all who participated! End of year reports were prepared for 2016 and 2017, providing a detailed look at the Guild's long-term progress. January drive: We set out to remove April, May, and June 2017 from our backlog and all December 2017 Requests (a total of 275 articles). As with previous years, the January drive was an outstanding success and by the end of the month all but 57 of these articles were cleared. Officially, of the 38 who signed up, 21 editors recorded 259 copy edits (490,256 words). February blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 11 through 17 February, focusing on Requests and the last articles tagged in May 2017. At the end of the week there were only 14 pending requests, with none older than 20 days. Of the 11 who signed up, 10 editors completed 35 copy edits (98,538 words). Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Miniapolis, Corinne, Tdslk, and Reidgreg. >>> Sign up for the March Drive! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive

G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:

• tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
• adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
• updating the open tasks template on Milhist's task force pages
• creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 April and runs until 23:59 UTC on 30 April 2018. Those interested in participating can sign up here.

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Books & Bytes - Issue 27

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Another RfC on Net Neutrality

A month ago you participated in an RfC at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 147#Net neutrality. The same proposal has been posted again at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal: A US-only CentralNotice in support of Net Neutrality. (This notice has been sent to all who participated in the prior RfC, regardless of which side they supported). --Guy Macon (talk) 20:51, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for your edit to The Firesign Theatre

Removing the reference to the Clinton presidency made me rethink it. I still reverted you, but changed the link to United States presidential election, 1992. When Bergman said "we kicked the fascists out of office", he obviously was referring to the change in political climate accompanying the change in presidential parties (what has become known as the Reagan era replaced by Clinton's presidency (not as far-reaching or similarly recognized as an "era"). I hope you find this agreeable. Perhaps I could replace "energized by" with "encouraged by". JustinTime55 (talk) 18:24, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Respectfully, that's a bit OR. What may be an "obvious" reference to you may not be so to the rest of us. The fact you're trying to present is: "...following the 1992 presidential election, Bergman..." and should simply be stated as such. Any additional metaphors (such as 'energized by', 'because of', 'excited by', etc.) is mere flourish and indicates a causation that may not actually exist (due to Synthesis) – unless actually stated in the reference(s). You already have Bergman's statement highlighted in a quote box above, why not let the reader decide what he meant. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 23:56, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

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June 2018 GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors June 2018 News Welcome to the June 2018 GOCE newsletter, in which you will find Guild updates since the February edition. Progress continues to be made on the copyediting backlog, which has been reduced to 7 months and reached a new all-time low. Requests continue to be handled efficiently this year, with 272 completed by the end of May (an average completion time of 10.5 days). Fewer than 10% of these waited longer than 20 days, and the longest wait time was 29 days. Wikipedia in general, and the Guild in particular, experienced a deep loss with the death on 20 March of Corinne. Corinne (a GOCE coordinator since 1 July 2016) was a tireless aide on the requests page, and her peerless copyediting is a part of innumerable GAs and FAs. Her good cheer, courtesy and tact are very much missed. March drive: The goal was to remove June, July and August 2017 from our backlog and all February 2018 Requests (a total of 219 articles). This drive was an outstanding success, and by the end of the month all but eight of these articles were cleared. Of the 33 editors who signed up, 19 recorded 277 copy edits (425,758 words). April blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 15 through 21 April, focusing on Requests and the last eight articles tagged in August 2017. At the end of the week there were only 17 pending requests, with none older than 17 days. Of the nine editors who signed up, eight editors completed 22 copy edits (62,412 words). May drive: We set out to remove September, October and November 2017 from our backlog and all April 2018 Requests (a total of 298 articles). There was great success this month with the backlog more than halved from 1,449 articles at the beginning of the month to a record low of 716 articles. Officially, of the 20 who signed up, 15 editors recorded 151 copy edits (248,813 words). Coordinator elections: It's election time again. Nominations for Guild coordinators (who will serve a six-month term for the second half of 2018) have begun, and will close at 23:59 UTC on 15 June. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are eligible, and self-nominations are encouraged. Voting will take place between 00:01 UTC on 16 June and 23:59 UTC on 30 June. June blitz: Stay tuned for this one-week copy-editing blitz, which will take place in mid-June. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Corinne, Jonesey95, Miniapolis, Reidgreg and Tdslk. >>> Participate in the June elections! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Books & Bytes – Issue 28

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Proposed mergers

Just to let you know in case you haven't seen it, I think this comment is in reply to the comment you left above it. Richard3120 (talk) 00:21, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

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Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress#Chronological order of polls

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Guild of Copy Editors August 2018 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the August 2018 GOCE newsletter. Thanks to everyone who participated in the Guild's June election; your new and returning coordinators are listed below. The next election will occur in December 2018; all Wikipedia editors in good standing may take part. Our [[Wikipedi a:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/June 2018|June blitz]] focused on Requests and articles tagged for copy edit in October 2017. Of the eleven people who signed up, eight editors recorded a total of 28 copy edits, including 3 articles of more than 10,000 words. Complete results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Thanks to everyone who participated in the July drive. Of the seventeen people who signed up, thirteen editors completed 194 copy edits, successfully removing all articles tagged in the last three months of 2017. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are here. The August blitz will run for one week, from 19 to 25 August. Sign up now! Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Tdslk. >>> Sign up for the August blitz! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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