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Archive 1

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Collapsibility

Hey Fletcher, Could you please make this template collapsible? Lots of trying by me ended in a mess. I ~~hope~~ know you'll be able to fix it. Thanks for everything, Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 14:48, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Done, with default state as collapsed. If you want the default to show full, just remove the "collapsed" from the very first line. Cheers, • ɔ ʃ → 21:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 15:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I do believe the name isn't Fletcher...--mono 00:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I do... • ɔ ʃ → 01:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Really?--mono 00:39, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

You'd think I'd know my own name... —fetch ·comms 00:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Type message title here

Hi, Actually i am working for an IT Company & they want there presence on Wikipidia not for commercial purposes.Actually there are very few institutions & companies regarding project management & infrastructure in Pakistan.So we the leading company wants to share as much as we can.Our company is providing trainings & many services which others coudn't. Yesterday i submitted the information that our content writers created in house.Most of its content is on our website as well. But today the Article was removed. Here is the link "http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Expert_Systems" & this page was modified by you.Please guide me.I am also sending you the site reference if you want to go through it again. http://www.expertsystems.net

Regards, Farhan

Farzaash 10:35, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Please see this page about writing about your own company. Even if you did not hold a conflict of interest, your article used copyrighted material from your company's website, and even if you were allowed to use that, a company's own site is not a reliable source. All articles on Wikipedia must establish their notability through independent reliable sources. My advice is just to wait--if your company is really that notable, someone else will create an article about it. • ɔ ʃ → 21:25, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Proposal to Delete Actually Vandalism?

Hi there Fetchcomms,

The article Alex Day suddenly has a 'proposal to delete' notice at the top. It was placed there by User: 1BettingDisk at 14:17 on 5 May 2010.

The interesting thing is that this user account was created only minutes before, at 13:24 on 5 May 2010. It would appear that the user account was created for the sole purpose of getting this one article deleted.

I am all the more suspicious because I received, on YouTube, a message from someone called HandyScholar, who was asking questions about how I managed to write such a "comprehensive" article. I looked here on Wikipedia and found an account for someone named User: HandyScholar. Interestingly, the only activity for this account was to go, 5 minutes after creating the user account, and vote to delete an article about Chartjackers - a group of which Alex Day was a member.

Now we see a similar pattern of behavior towards this article. I'm very suspicious of the motives.

I suspect this is a form of vandalism. I wonder if you, or I, could delete this proposal for deletion. And is there any way to protect the article from this sort of thing?

I was going to just delete the proposed deletion tag and explain why, but I thought it might be wiser to first consult someone who's been around these parts a little longer than I've been.

Thanks for your help.

Wmoran9550 (talk) 16:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, moments after I posted the above note, User: Jayron32 removed the proposal for deletion on his own initiative. I guess that takes care of that problem. But I would still like to see some follow-up on this. Maybe you could advise me on that.

For the reasons I noted above, I suspect that User: 1BettingDisk and User: HandyScholar may actually be the same person, and that he or she may have a personal grudge against Alex Day.

One additional fact tends toward that same conclusion. The "issues" raised in the proposal for deletion are addressed extensively on the article's discussion page. And yet, this User: 1BettingDisk did not see fit to make any comment or contribution to that discussion.

If this user is carrying out a personal vendetta of some sort, I wonder whether their account should be closed. Of course, they can always create a new account, or simply vandalize the article without signing in at all. But it seems to me that something should be done.

Thanks again.

Wmoran9550 (talk) 16:46, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree--I will file an investigation if this continues, as HandyScholar has been inactive for quite some time now though. Thanks for the note, • ɔ ʃ → 21:28, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you.

Wmoran9550 (talk) 03:16, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I just undid most of a recent edit to the Alex Day by 92.0.127.9 This edit consisted mostly of the addition of derogatory "information" about Trock, supported by dead links or no references at all. I left in one assertion supported by a link to a magazine not online, as I am unable to verify that assertion myself. It may or may not be true. I can't tell. But I am wondering if this 92.0.127.9 is the same person as our User: 1BettingDisk and User: HandyScholar. Maybe we should just log this information and save it for possible later use. Please advise if you think I should do anything more, or undo anything I've done. Thanks.

Wmoran9550 (talk) 14:36, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about logging it--a CheckUser can see those easily. But please, remove all negative unsourced, unverifiable material per our policy. If this addition of derogatory material continues, request page protection. —fetch ·comms 14:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Once again, thank you so much. Wmoran9550 (talk) 17:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Seeking Guidance on McClure Article

Fetchcomms - The current submission of "McClure Arctic Expedition" is primarily a chronological narrative of the facts documented of this voyage. The sections near the bottom (Aftermath and Controversy, Contrasts with Franklin), are merely highlighting documented facts or primary-source opinions in hope of flavoring the legacy of the expedition. Several of McClure's decisions were criticized afterwards, and his escape from over 4 years on the ice bears comparison to Franklin's unfortunate fate.

That said, I will be happy to make any revisions that you suggest in order to present an appropriately toned article.

Thank you for your consideration.

Spookyland (talk) 15:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

My only advice is to cut any unnecessary detail from the article, focusing more on the main points. The tone isn't bad, but it's a bit overly descriptive in some areas, making it sound almost like a story. Things like "and the warm climate generally agreed with the crew." might be changed to "weather at the time was warm, making it easier for the crew." Also sentences like "Periods of calm were often punctuated by the sudden groaning of the ship timbers, as the ice threatened to nip the vessel." could be eliminated altogether (or just merged into the next sentence to tell that it encountered trouble with ice, and they tried to solve these issues). • ɔ ʃ → 20:33, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Type message title here

Greetings, I submitted a post on Phillip Mills a couple of weeks ago, which was rejected on the grounds it contained text from an existing website www.lesmills.com. Actually, I am a communications specialist with Les Mills International and that text was generated by our department. If there is any implied copywright on that text, it surely belongs to us. How can we progress this post? cheers g

Grant R Chapman (talk) 21:43, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

You must email our OTRS team at permissions-en

wikimedia.org. The instructions for doing so are at this page. Thanks, • ɔ ʃ → 21:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Newest Message

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Talkback

User:IBen/TB mono 00:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

User signature

Your current user signature (• ɔ ʃ →) is pretty awful. Can you change it (back) to something less obnoxious, please? Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 15:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

How is it obnoxious? It looks nice to me. • ɔ ʃ → 15:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't contain your user name. --MZMcBride (talk) 15:36, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't have to, right? • ɔ ʃ → 15:38, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Are there other user signatures that don't? --MZMcBride (talk) 15:40, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

User:JzG, for instance. • ɔ ʃ → 15:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Ahhh, I wondered what those marks were on the page. If they're some kind of symbols, it's not rendering as anything readable on at least two different browsers, to the point that it wasn't even obvious to me that they are a signature. Please reconsider. Risker (talk) 16:36, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Also, do you know what JzG stands for, Fetchcomms? :D Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 16:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

They're IPA characters... :P It shouldn't be the browser, it should be the fonts installed (and it works even on an iPad for me). And yes, I do know what JzG stands for (although it's not obvious without having read the book). I'll see if I can change it to something nicer... *sigh*, and I was just starting to like it. • ɔ ʃ → 22:12, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Fetchcomms; sometimes for non-wikipedia related reasons users aren't able to add fonts or make other changes to their setups, and in this case I wouldn't even have been certain what I was looking for in order to make a change. Particularly for those who have nonstandard or foreign-language setups, your change will make a positive difference. Risker (talk) 22:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

If it's any consolation, Fetchcomms, your current signature is just as pretty. AGK 14:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Fetchcomms - I noticed that you reviewed my proposed NARI article and I was wondering if you could give me additional insight as to why it was declined. I'm very new to this, and I hope it's not the end of the road for my article. I truly believe NARI deserves a presence in Wikipedia but I want to make sure it is done right. I greatly appreciate any help/advice/guidance you could give to me to make this happen. <phone redacted> Thank you!

NariNational (talk) 19:37, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

(Note, I've removed the phone number to prevent against spam, etc., and barring emergency matters, communication on this page is fine.) The reason it was declined was because it comprised copyrighted material. Even if this were not the case, all articles on Wikipedia must contain multiple reliable sources for two main reasons: to allow one to verify all the information, and to help establish the subject's notability. Reliable sources include news articles, magazines, books, scholarly journals, etc. (but not blogs, NARI's own website, etc.). You should also cite these sources using footnotes, but the main thing first is to gather the sources first. I suggest looking at Google News and other related places. Regards, • ɔ ʃ → 22:18, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading File:Larry Thompson - Color Photo.jpg.

Thank you for your message. I am obviously new to the photo uploading requirements for Wikipedia. I contacted Mr. Thompson's office subsequent to your message. His office gave to me permission to use the photo in question stating that Mr. Thompson was the owner of the picture and the copyright holder. Apparently, they use the picture for the majority of his press. How should I describe the picture to satisfy Wikipedia's requirements? Please advise.

Thank you.

ProductionFan (talk) 00:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

If they gave you written permission, please send a copy to: permissions-en

wikimedia.org . Please be sure that the consent of permission email includes a compatible free license (such as the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 license) that the original photographer/copyright holder has chosen. For an example of what the permissions email from his office should look like, see this page. Thank you, —fetch ·comms 00:52, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Shivaji-riding.jpg

Hi Fetchcomms. I declined the speedy deletion tag you placed on File:Shivaji-riding.jpg. Please remember that the {{db-f7}} tag should only be used when a file bears an inappropriate license tag or inappropriate fair-use rationale claim (e.g. A photograph of a school mascot out in a field claimed to be a non-free logo). For files that violate WP:NFCC, please consider using the {{subst:dnfcc}} tag instead. Thanks, FASTILY_sock^(TALK) 03:26, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah--didn't realize it was a mascot. But it feels odd tagging as F4--if it had a fur, it's probably copyrighted. Would using a dfu work as well (I thought that was part of F7 at first)? —fetch ·comms 03:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, perhaps I should have explained myself more clearly - (e.g. means "for the sake of example). The {{subst:nld}} tag basically means that we don't know the license. Whether the file is free or non-free, if no license is provided, they all fall under the same category. On a side note, because the image is that of a statue, which can be non-free due to lack of FOP, or just plain old copyrighting (yes, 2D and 3D art can be copyrighted), the Fair-use rationale table template may have been appropriate here. Hope that helps to answer your question. Regards, FASTILY_sock^(TALK) 03:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Yep, thanks (and oh how I hate dealing with complicated FOP differences in countries... :P). —fetch ·comms 03:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

User:IBen/TB mono 05:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of Gynecologic Oncology Group publications

The article List of Gynecologic Oncology Group publications has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

unencyclopedic - clear violation of Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I was just splitting the list off from the original article, but I'm not sure where the image collection, link list, or something that should be on Wikisource. While the list may be excessive, I'm not sure how it fits into the description you mentioned -- seems to me more like a list of books by an author, etc. —fetch ·comms 19:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

OK. Try the more general Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information criterion. The list is of zero interest to the general reader. It certainly does not belong on Wikisource: or any other wiki project. The only place for this list is the GOGs own website. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Rejected page

You rejected my page, Barry Baker, can u ytell me what i am doing wrong ?

I have followed the instructions, hopefully the page is ok now, can u check it for me please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbystevens (talk • contribs) 21:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Bobbystevens (talk) 23:03, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, I removed your email because it's easiest to communicate here, on my talk page. Your article was declined because it did not contain multiple reliable sources, such as books, news articles, magazines, etc. This source doesn't even mention Bobby Baker, and this one does not constitute significant coverage. —fetch ·comms 00:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

ok, thanks i will find some more links —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbystevens (talk • contribs) 11:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Can you have another look and see if this is betta, the links only show up as numbers tho ???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbystevens (talk • contribs) 12:17, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

YouTube is not a reliable source, nor are press releases and Wikipedia references. This is still not significant coverage. Please reformat the sources as shown in this guide. —fetch ·comms 12:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I have tried re formating one of the resource, the first one, is this how it should be ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbystevens (talk • contribs) 14:22, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

ok, i think i have it now, can u check it, i will expand once it is created. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbystevens (talk • contribs) 21:06, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

No, see this:

Referencing

How references work

Simple references

These require two parts;

a)

Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>

b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";

== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Fetchcomms/reftest and try it out.

Named references

Chzz was born in 1837, <ref name="MyBook">
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> in Footown.<ref name="MyBook"/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Thanks, —fetch ·comms 14:47, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Format correct, but the actual sources still do not meet the requirements. —fetch ·comms 22:03, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Someone probably needs help

The author of Mutual Recognition of States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) probably needs someone to teach them how to make tables. The whole article, consisting of pretty much a single table, is approx. 220 kb, which can take some time to load. I myself am not versed in the table making ways, so I was hoping you, (who I found randomly through Recent Changes of the Wikipedia namespace) could help them out. The author is User:Orthorhombic. (I do not require talkback templates) Bramble claw x 01:48, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Uh... I'd just remove the whole table because it will never fit on the page, and it'll always be big (and confusing). It's probably best to ask the author to add more prose rather than a big, unwieldy table. —fetch ·comms 01:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Bramble claw x 02:01, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

GA nomination of Northwest Airlines Flight 253

Hello Fetchcomms, I'll be reviewing Northwest Airlines Flight 253, an article you nominated, for GA status. As it is quite long, it may take a couple days for me to crank out a full review. Wasn't it nicknamed the Chrismas Day bombing or something? Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 18:38, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Take all the time you need :) And yes, it was. Thanks for taking this one on, —fetch ·comms 02:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

OK, I've completed the review - just two little minor things need your attention. They're really quick, so I won't bother putting it on hold. Airplaneman ✈ 23:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

FIxed, I hope. —fetch ·comms 02:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Passed! I left a short comment on the review page. Airplaneman ✈ 02:48, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Erm... fast? Hmmm... what would you have done? I couldn't find any other things that weren't GA quality... :) Airplaneman ✈ 03:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Meh, true (although that's biased from me!) Thanks again, —fetch ·comms 03:04, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem! Was fun to read :). (Disclaimer: the reason why all of my [10] GA reviews to date have passed is because I tend to pick and review only good articles [no pun intended]). Airplaneman ✈ 03:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Follow up on images being deleted

Just to let you know, the Wikipedia volunteers never responded to my email providing the permission I was granted to use the images you flagged. I left all of the verbiage on my talk page so you can refresh. It will be gone from there in the next day or so to clean it up, and the images in question are gradually being eaten by the delete bot. I found a way to re-write the article without them, but thought I'd at least mention it was a total time sink. Going to send out another round of requests to get better images put in place, and will make sure it meets the policy that's been set to avoid wasting my time and that of the volunteers who actually keep on top of things. Why are non-approved justifications still in the drop down on the upload form? Semi-rhetorical, but seemed like it was worth asking. Thanks. Wallanon (talk) 03:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The images were mostly likely deleted because the code {{OTRS pending}} was never added to the image pages, which indicates the permissions emails pending verification--I'm not sure why that was never even described in any of the deletion notices, however. The non-approved justifications are on the image form because using that automatically tags it with a deletion notice (because it is unapproved). —fetch ·comms 03:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Since the images were useful but not critical, I just chalked it up to bad luck. Was less than thrilled I didn't get them placed before they were flagged, but that's how it goes. Hopefully I can stay off the radar now. Thanks again. Wallanon (talk) 03:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Editor Review

I just wanted to say that you picked the most awful time to do the editor review. :) My edits were at an okay level, but getting the Earth Cabal going has basically ruined all of that. I'm going to focus on editing mostly again, I just wanted to get this cabal going. I don't think of Wikipedia as MySpace, nor do I treat it like that, usually. Hi878 (talk) 22:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

My point was that you shouldn't have bothered with the cabal (or any secret pages, for that matter) in the first place. Doing so only distracts others and takes up their own time they could be spending on writing just to deal with all the little details involved. Maybe you don't want to, and I don't care either way (as long as this doesn't get too big of an issue), but if I were in your place, I'd U1 all the pages and start making a few new articles. Perhaps finding something you enjoy writing about is the hardest part, then gathering the info and putting it all together isn't too much work. —fetch ·comms 01:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we'll ever agree on the Secret Page/Cabal part, os I'll leave that alone. However, I don't think that I am going to start to terribly many new articles, because I just don't feel that I would be able to put together quality articles. If someone could help me with the Alden J. Blethen article, so that I got to a point that I knew what I was doing, I might start doing that. At this point, however, I think that I'll mostly just stick to vandal-fighting. Hi878 (talk) 04:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, do you think that you would be able to help me with that? I would really appreciate it. Reply on my talk page, please. Hi878 (talk) 03:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Excellent User Page Award
		It's a totally a new kind of userpage --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 07:51, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Another barnstar...

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For getting Northwest Airlines Flight 253 to a good article. My comments at your editor review about content work are now completely invalid. Cheers, C628 (talk) 01:07, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

AfC

I ec'd with you in closing this. Keep up the diligent work at AfC! (And I really like your userpage and navbar, by the way.) {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 02:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Motto of the Day

Hi there, Fetchcomms! Thought you might be interested in Motto of the Day, a collaborative (and totally voluntary) effort by a group of Wikipedians to create original, inspirational mottos. Have a good motto idea? Share it here, comment on some of the mottos there or just pass this message onto your friends.

MOTD Needs Your Help!

Delivered By –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Having seen the page before, it's a bit too much of a mess for me (someone really needs to archive/remove those old nominees...), so thanks, but no thanks. Sorry, —fetch ·comms 12:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Oh, but you should, it's fun. :) Hi878 (talk) 18:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Response to review comment that has put Chicanery (album) article on Hold in Articles for creation/Chicanery (album)

Thank you for reviewing my article submission. The current determination as a result of the review has been to put this article on Hold. The stated reason is that there should be a band page prior to the transferral of the album article to "live" status. I have been working on a band page, however, that article has been more time consuming, and I completed the album page first. I anticipate completion of the band article this weekend (see my user talk page 3 Chicanery band page(draft) for status), and submission of that article for review to Articles for Creation early next week. With knowledge that a band article is in the making for submission within the next week, can we release this article to go "live" now? If not, I will likely have to perform a file retrieval of the album cover image since the orphaned file period may expire. Again, thank you for a speedy review, especially since there was a backlog of article candidates requiring review. I have left a message on the submitted article page, and I have gone to live chat, also, however, noone was available. Doc2234 (talk) 14:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I would strongly recommend holding off (there is no guarantee that the band article will be made live yet, and someone may decide to nominate the album article for deletion before the band page is created, etc.) I would just save the file and reupload it when needed, if it is deleted. Thanks, —fetch ·comms 20:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I was finally able to discuss the issue on live chat, and the recommendation was the same. I am working on the band article as fast as I can. Thank you for your response. Doc2234 (talk) 22:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

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User:Enoxod

Hi there Fetchcomms, I'm sure you you're well aware of blocked user Enoxod (talk · contribs). A few minutes ago, a new user Dungcaaol (talk · contribs), who popped up on my watchlist when they added a logo in the Lady Gaga article. I reverted the user and reviewed their contributions. After reviewing Los Cerritos Center, it seems that Dungcaaol appears to be Enoxod, but they haven't shared edits to any other article. I'm not familiar with the editor at all, so I thought it might interest you to review the contributions and possibly initiate a sockpuppet investigation if needed. Regards. — ξ ^xplicit 06:31, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Definitely: He edited the talk page too. —fetch ·comms 18:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

And this. If you want, request a CU to verify/get a rangeblock/find any more possible socks, but this one's a duck to me. —fetch ·comms 18:15, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I missed that the new account edited Enoxod's talk page. I went ahead and blocked it as a duck. — ξ ^xplicit 18:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Confused....

Been helping out at Afc since I started, though one thing I never understood was what template reviewers used to notify authors that there article had been declined. I use subst:afc not and then type a manual comment, but is there a quicker way?

Acather96 (talk) 09:12, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Try User:Tim Song/afchelper4.js. —fetch ·comms 18:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Fisherman's Village Photo

Hi, I took the picture of the docks at Fisherman's Village. There is no copyright on it. Sorry. How should I proceed? Best, Jules

Julesd17 (talk) 13:09, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the image has been deleted already. Please reupload it, but follow the directions on the form. Make sure to choose the appropriate copyright license: {{pd-self}}, which means that it was created by you but you have released copyrights. —fetch ·comms 18:13, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello

I should add to Machiavelli (disambiguation), please decline request. Andewz111 (talk · contribs) (typo intended) 00:11, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

HI

		Sunshine!
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DougieSC 22:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Just Something to Tinker with

I have the layout all mapped out. each item is placed where I would like it to be. All items have their "width values" in the items description as you can see on This Page, you will need to open you browser to full view then the layout will be shown as I planned. All the items ( inserts ) I would like on my page and they correspond to the layout on the other page are here Inserts. the "height" of each should be relative to the item type and it's position on the page. The Image of Myself, I would like it set at 300px a the rest of the page built off and around that size, matching somewhat in size and position to that. Nothing should overlap outside the background field, ( be it green or blue ). The Nave-plate might be best outside the frame and obviously at the top. And I'm leaning towards navplate #2 with frame/background #2. Mlpearc pull my chain Trib's 01:34, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey no worries, thanx for the attempt. see ya around Mlpearc pull my chain Trib's 00:27, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Newsletter

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive! We have now reached the halfway point, and here's what has happened so far.

Requests Report - Good news! The number of special requests waiting to be edited has been reduced drastically, with almost all of the remaining items having editors committed to getting them done. Good work, people!
Target Report - ɳorɑfʈ's initial target of reducing the backlog of articles for copy edit turned out to be ~~unrealistic~~ insane, so a new target was set: we hope to reduce the to backlog to less than 7,500 items in the queue by the end of the month. The number in the queue was 7,950 as of close of business yesterday.
- If we "concentrate our firepower" we can wipe out Jan, Feb, and March 2008, meaning the drive will have cleared four months off the backlog queue. Please consider copyediting from one of these months.
Rewards Report - We now have some clear leaders on the board in all three Gold Star categories, and many people have qualified for the various barnstars. It is not too late to participate, as it takes just 2,000 words (pre-edit) to qualify for a barnstar! Don't wait! Start participating today. Remember, the ultimate winner is Wikipedia.
Notice to Participants - For those who have indicated that you will be working on certain articles on the drive page in your respective tally box, please ensure that you complete these copyedits as soon as possible.

Thank you very much for your participation so far!

- Coordinator: ɳorɑfʈ^Talk! Co-coordinators: Diannaa ^TALK and S Masters (talk)

This newsletter by Diannaa (writer) and SMasters (writer and typesetter).
Thrown onto your doorstep by ɳorɑfʈ on a red Huffy bike.

ɳorɑfʈ^Talk! 07:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

FFU

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Image: Larry Thompson - Color Photo.jpg

Dear Fetchcomms:

I advised Mr. Thompson to send the copyright letter to permissions-en@wikimedia.org, as you suggested. He informed me that he sent the letter on May 10, 2010. How long is the review process? Will I have to upload the picture again, or, when approved, will it merely show up again on the page of the article? Please advise.

Thank you.

ProductionFan (talk) 23:32, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi ProductionFan, Fechcomms had me look at the permissions queue and I found the email from Mr. Thompson. I just need to verify something about ownership with him but hopefully we should be set when I hear back (it won't sit in queue again it goes straight to me now). After I here back if it's all set I'll just undelete the image, you won't need to reupload it. You may have to put it back on the page (bots usually remove it when it gets deleted) but I usually try to go back and update the page when I undelete an image. James (T C) 23:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK problem

Hello! Your submission of Break The Barrier at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Little Mountain 5 00:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, thanks for pointing out that issue with my menu bar. I didn't even notice Enti342 (talk) 20:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Question about Newpage Patrol

I came across an article that was written in German. Because I can read some German, It was pretty clear it was an attack page. I tagged it with {{db-attack}}. Is that the best decision even though it was written in another language other than English? wiooiw ^(talk) 14:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Anything that falls under G10 in English falls under it in any other language, too. —fetch ·comms 14:41, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 99 support, 9 oppose, and 2 neutral. Your support was much appreciated.

Regards -- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 16:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Fortus 3D Production Systems

Regarding Fortus 3D Production Systems article. Stratasys is the manufacturer of Fortus 3D Production Systems who wrote the press release posted on Business wire. Would it help if we pointed back to our own website? I thought it would be better to reference an outside source. http://www.fortus.com/stratasys.aspx?id=5976 Let me know what we need to do to fix this article.

63.232.147.98 (talk) 17:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Mentoring:

Per your email, I've looked over my edits and my mission here. Instead of writing a long piece here, I will state that I have decided to take up your offer (If you're up for it, I'm always free for mentoring. I want you to get the hang of things, especially if you just need some more time.) for mentoring to get a better grip "clue" on what's happening here. I am still sorting through your comments; you mentioned "incidents", namely the AfD thing, Codedon, other various comments from me, etc., although I must say I have tried to respond calmly and find a compromise. I do understand that WP:DTTR has become a problem from my first edits and I'm trying to deal with that. So, I'd appreciate your help; no idea where to begin.--moɳo 03:41, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Break The Barrier

On 21 May, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Break The Barrier, which you recently nominated. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Question

Where would I go to propose a policy. A administrator has been deleting World War I and World War II photos because the authors are unknown. I want to propose a policy to protect wartime photos taken of battles and such where there is a source (website, database, archive) of the photo, but the exact photo taker is unknown. Thank you --Alpha Quadrant (talk) 22:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) You may be looking for the policy village pump. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 22:38, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

In any case, images not in the public domain must have an author in order to verify their copyright status (unless it is clearly stated in the source, but that wouldn't make much sense because the source wouldn't be able to verify it either). In my opinion, this policy would be largely unsuccessful. —fetch ·comms 23:14, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok, so I shouldn't even try then? --Alpha Quadrant (talk) 01:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, copyright is a serious issue, and if there's no definite confirmation of its copyright, it would be deleted. So, the policy you would be proposing would contradict that, and I would say it's not worth proposing. —fetch ·comms 01:11, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thank you --Alpha Quadrant (talk) 01:13, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:NoAutosign

Template:NoAutosign has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. — Jeff G. ツ 02:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Digital Group Audio

Did you not see that the submission was copy-and-pasted from the company website? That is one of the WP:AFCR#Quick fail criteria that should be checked for first; I came across the submission at User:EarwigBot/AfC copyvios. PleaseStand ^(talk) 04:14, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Nope, the bot failed and I ran a quick check on Google that didn't show anything, but I admit I did not have time to run a few other paragraphs. Thanks for catching it; sometimes, the bot marks a cv but doesn't update the other page. —fetch ·comms 14:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

User:IBen/TB moɳo 04:26, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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On:Shinichi Ikejiri

Please let me know where I can write my opinion. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 18:38, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Severe weather

I got started on it, but saw you wanted to do it. That's fine. Go right ahead. I did part of it, but didn't get very far. Auntieruth55 (talk) 01:47, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh by all means, continue. I'm still bogged down with work for another 3 or 4 days, so I doubt I'll be able to get very far either. —fetch ·comms 01:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm trying to finish my dissertation this week, so I don't need another distraction. the contest will go on, I'm sure, so we can discuss it next month. ;) It's interesting but sometimes I have no idea what the editor means. Auntieruth55 (talk) 02:00, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Aw, writing those things suck. If it's OK with you, I can try and do some work on it later in the week? —fetch ·comms 02:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and between us, we'll get it done. :) Auntieruth55 (talk) 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Group notice

I was looking at how you got that cool editnotice that showed up on all your subpages (it didn't work on mine) and realized that you created a group notice. Since you're an accountcreator, you can modify these notices and I was wondering if you could create Template:Editnotices/Group/User:Mono for me with the following content:

Content

I ask that you do not edit this page without my permission. If you would like to propose an edit, contact me.

Do not use this page to send a message to me. Use my talk page to talk to me. Thanks. mono

Thanks!--mono 02:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

{{Adminhelp}} An admin could do it also.--mono 02:20, 24 May 2010 (UTC)--mono 02:20, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

1. That shows up on the guestbook page too (wait, you oppose guestbooks, rite?) 2. Use help templates on your own page, as it directs you to (and don't use it for trivial items like this) and 3. amend it per #1 and I'll see what I can do. —fetch ·comms 02:31, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Modified. mono 02:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Doug Yasinsky

On 24 May, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Doug Yasinsky, which you recently nominated. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 18:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Fetchcomms...

For your support on my RfA. Also, just out of curiousity, what does Fetchcomms mean? cheers, Efcmagnew (talk) 03:05, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

It means stuff. :) —fetch ·comms 03:17, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

COI?

Is this editing in conflict of interest? Thanks. PleaseStand ^(talk) 21:05, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. But they said they get the guidelines, and imo, COI's no biggy if they don't actually end up spamming. The article might need a few MOS tweaks, and maybe revised tone in parts, but overall the sourcing is better, etc. Just keep an eye on it. —fetch ·comms 21:31, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Question

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Where do I put the reason for a license of an image on the page. Contact me with the information once you get this message. See File:Scratte.jpg to see what I'm talking about. --Hjfhksdjf (talk) 23:23, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Reply

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ACC request

Break the reservation for MJSent, please. Open The Windows, sir! 20:42, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Why? —fetch ·comms 20:45, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I've never had the chance to create an account. Open The Windows, sir! 20:55, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

... So you want me to give you one? Let's be sensible here; it doesn't matter who creates it as long as it's created. If you sat in the IRC channel and waited, eventually you'd get one. If that's too boring for you, please don't ask others to unreserve just for you. Patience is key, and the number you make doesn't matter. —fetch ·comms 20:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Nothing here. Open The Windows, sir! 21:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

As Fetchcomms said, you just have to be patient. If you are that keen to create one, wait for one to turn up (and the gap between them can vary from between 5 seconds and 10 hours) - as Fetchcomms says, your best bet is to come to the IRC channel. Otherwise you'll just have to keep an eye out on the tool, and reserve one yourself - no one will unreserve one for you, that's not how it works. "Patience, my young apprentice" to misquote from Star Wars! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 21:15, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Page archiving

Excuse me Fetchcomms. Do you know how to archive a page? (Jordan S. Wilson (talk) 23:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC))

Basically, copy whatever you want archived into a subpage (like User talk:MetroFan2009/Archive 1) and then remove it from the original talk page. I think you tried to archive your user page--did you want your talk page archived instead? —fetch ·comms 23:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes Please!! (Jordan S. Wilson (talk) 23:42, 27 May 2010 (UTC))

Thank you Fetchcomms I owe you that much!!(Jordan S. Wilson (talk) 23:55, 27 May 2010 (UTC))

No problem :) —fetch ·comms 23:57, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject MO

May I ask for what you are doing for Wikipedia:WikiProject Missouri and its child wikiprojects? (Jordan S. Wilson (talk) 00:36, 28 May 2010 (UTC))

Nothing much at the moment, but I'm planning to get all the state park articles down, and the list of Missouri National Historic Places or something, and the state dinosaur article. Hopefully I have time! —fetch ·comms 00:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello!

Hope I ain't wasting my time. Anyway a corrupt mod got my old accounts banned over nothing and now he won't stop leaving sockpuppets tags on everything he thinks is me. Please stop feeding them. The mod I refer to is called Michael. I cannot pronounce the second half of his name.202.93.213.34 (talk) 01:50, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Blocked. Thanks for the note, —fetch ·comms 01:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Can we remove the notices from the Alex Day article?

I'm not sure what the proper procedure is for this. When the Alex Day article was first published, User:Cptmurdok came along and tagged it for three problems: notability, recentism, and external reference deviations. I fixed the external reference problem right away, and I think the recentism problem has been dealt with by now. The case against notability was never very strong, and I think a fair reading of the article, with its 64 footnotes, shows the notability of the subject. Moreover, I've dealt extensively with the notability issue on the article's discussion page, Talk:Alex_Day, where I went so far as to construct a Notability Matrix, showing that the subject satisfies half a dozen different Wikipedia notability criteria. No one has added anything to the discussion to rebut that analysis. In short, I think it's time to remove those tags. But I don't know who has the authority to do that. I contacted User:Cptmurdok about this a couple weeks ago, and I haven't gotten any reply from him at all. You strike me as a fair and competent editor. I wonder if you could take a look at the article and the discussion, and if you agree that the issues have been dealt with, could you remove the tags? Thanks.

Wmoran9550 (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Anyone can remove a tag from an article, so you can feel free to remove them if the issues have been resolved. —fetch ·comms 17:12, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I was a little worried about doing it myself, because it might look like I was "asserting ownership" or whatever the Wiki sin is called. But I think what I'll do then is just add a note to the discussion page about why I'm removing the tags, and say pretty much what I said in the above note to you. Thanks for your help. Wmoran9550 (talk) 20:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Nobel of X

Please take a look at the proposal I made in Talk:List of prizes known as the Nobel of a field to ensure the future quality of the list. Your comments would be much appreciated :) Cheers, Waldir ^talk 06:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I belive you reviewed my article "OnlySee"...

Hello,

I belive you reviewed my article OnlySeethat was in the Articles For Creation page yesterday, and placed its inspection on hold. I thank you for doing this and not just immediatly dismissing it. I am contacting you here on your Talk Page since I am relatively new to Wikipedia and am unsure of any other way to respond to your comments. Now, I have made some tweaks to the article and removed what I belive was the unreputable link that you had mentioned. I did leave the one other reference, for, since it is a page hosted by the National Library of Australia, I belived it was a reputable and trust-worthy source. Now, if there is ANYTHING else that I can reasonably do to make the article more "post-worthy," please let me know as soon as possible. Thank you so much for your time, patience, and help.

 cdeboghorsczhy

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/OnlySee

Cdeboghorsczhy (talk) 16:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Basically, please just find one or two additional sources which mention this album (good sources can be news articles, books, magazines, etc.) and the article should be created after that. —fetch ·comms 18:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the clairification. Please, do not delete the article just yet, and allow me time to gather more references. If you or anyone else has any questions and/or comments, please contact me via my talk page.

cdeboghorsczhy--Cdeboghorsczhy (talk) 18:15, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Image copyright Question

Hi! Thanks for reviewing my uploaded image, Train rescue gyaneshwari express.jpg. Currently, the copyright holder of this image cannot be contacted by me. So, can I upload a new version of the image instead of the old one? The new image is taken by my mobile camera and is completely my work.

Please reply to this message as soon as possible. Thank you once again. Tatiraju.rishabh (talk) 17:24, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, I moved this to the bottom (because new messages are supposed to go to the bottom...), and you need to upload a new file altogether, not just a new version. If you can contact the copyright holder of this image, ask them to email OTRS at permissions-en

wikimedia.org and have him release File:Train rescue gyaneshwari express.jpg under an appropriate license. —fetch ·comms 17:34, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Eli Bridge

Thx. 92.11.238.139 (talk) 22:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation Page

Hey, I created a disambiguation page for Baker County School District. You said that two items wasn't enough to create one. How many items are needed to create a page for this? What is the least number that would satisfy you for creation of that page? Thanks! Tamer of hope (talk) 03:17, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages are only needed for three or more articles. As I said previously, your best bet is to use a hatnote instead, unless there is another Baker County School District article. —fetch ·comms 20:35, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hi! I am not sure what is expected from meregarding m submission on the "Wiener algebra", I added some material - better? //Logexp Logexp (talk) 17:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Logexp (talk) 17:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

If possible, could you elaborate on a few things (such as "space of absolutely convergent Fourier series"--is there a link to describe that?), and clarify the large line of math symbols--just to provide "context", if I'm making any sense at all. I'm not really a math person, so you don't need to oversimplify, but just try to link or expand on what a regular person might find confusing. —fetch ·comms 20:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Articles for Creation barnstar
		For your endless contributions to the AfC Wikiproject, I award you this barnstar. Slon02 (talk) 20:44, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

History of the Rove formation

I see you removed that I had applied for FA for this article. About a month ago I did submit the article for FA consideration, but did something wrong (surprise!!) and SandyGeorgia intervened. After looking at the article she removed it from the FA submission page and suggested I ask AWickert for help. A couple of days ago, I finally did ask him to review one section of the article, which he did. Now I'm in the process of absorbing AND implementing his suggestions. It will be a while before I resubmit a new-and-improved article. With your question mark I assumed you weren't sure what was happening. Bettymnz4 (talk) 22:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, yes--I removed the {{FAC}} template because it was throwing an error; when you are ready to nominate it for FA status, add {{subst:FAC}} at the very top of the talk page. —fetch ·comms 23:24, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2010 May newsletter

We are half way through round 3, with a little under a month to go. The current overall leader is Sasata (submissions), who has 570 points. He leads pool C. Pools A, B and D are led by Hunter Kahn (submissions), Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) and White Shadows (submissions) respectively. Anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.

Two of last year's final 8, Theleftorium (submissions) and Scorpion0422 (submissions), have dropped out of the competition, saying they would rather their place went to someone who will have more time on their hands than them next round. On a related note, a special thank you goes to White Shadows (submissions) for his help behind the scenes once again. There is currently a problem with the poster, perhaps caused by the new skin- take a look at this discussion and see if you can help. The competition has continued to tick over well with minimal need for judge intervention, so thank you to everyone making that possible. Good luck to all! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 20:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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You're right, Hummie Mann nomination was premature as CSD but the original page was nothing more than a first stab at the article with links and little else. There was no evidence it was going to be properly expanded.

Prestonmag (talk) 22:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

However, one should always wait before tagging for deletion (excepting blatant cases like "Suzy is 8 and she's awesome", "this is stupid", etc.) if an article makes a claim of notability, rather than CSDing minutes after creation. Wikipedia, after all, is an encyclopedia for anyone to edit--you can always improve articles too. —fetch ·comms 22:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: ACC 48373

I reserved it before I saw the comments. I've unreserved it. Cheers, --The High Fin Sperm Whale 23:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

WP:APPLE's Backlog Elimination Drive is over!

As the coordinator of the WikiProject Apple Inc. Backlog Elimination Drive for May 2010, I would like to thank you for your active participation in the drive.

I am writing to inform you that we have assessed all project articles. We thank all of our participants, as we couldn't have done it without you!

Once again, thank you for participating, and we appreciate the meaningful drop in the numbers due to your hard work and efforts. Awards will be delivered soon to our participants!

Cheers, mono 03:30, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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420recordings an independent record label and marketing company out of virginia released one of Cory Gunz's singles called Richer than Richie in 2008. is this better i need help on added this thanx

Hi, I am not exactly sure what you are referring to. Could you please be a bit more specific in your question? For example, please give me a link to the page to which you are discussing and what parts you need help on. Thanks, —fetch ·comms 20:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

420recordings 05:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Admin Nomination

Hi Fetchcomms, You are obviously a brilliant and highly skilled editor, active with over 20 thousand contribs. Would you consider letting me nominate you for adminship?

Acather96 (talk) 07:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I know Fetchcomms appreciates your praise, however he is urm, not seeking adminship. mono 18:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I want to finish all my writing goals first. Which might take a while, so don't plan on seeing me as a sysop before the end of the year. —fetch ·comms 19:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Feedback needed on feedback idea

To GB fan,Fetchcomms, Chzz and Captain-n00dle

I'd like some feedback on a thought I have to address most of the remaining items in Category:Requests to move a userspace draft. I could be bold and just do it, but I'd like some reaction from some of the more experienced contributors to Requests for feedback.

As background, I stumbled across the Category about three weeks ago. It contained 242 requests, some going back to November. (This discovery is what prompted me to work on a proposal for a Feedback Patrol.) I've been working on cleaning out the backlog, and have it under 75 at the moment. The good news is that over 170 have been addressed, either by moving when appropriate, or a message to the editor when substantial work is needed prior to a move. The bad news is that I worked on the list with a triage mentality, moving the ones that were in good shape, sending a notice to the ones that were in very bad shape, and passing on ones where I wasn't quite sure how to respond, so the ones left are a little trickier than the ones I've processed.

In many cases, the ones left have some promise, but need some attention regarding notability and other issues. However, in many cases, the request is quite dated. If the editors last edit is a few months old, I don't see it as a good use of resources to spend time assessing notability if the editor is no longer interested in contributing. (Obviously, if you read the draft and want to work on it personally, you can and should, but in many cases, if the original editor isn't going to help, there's not much point in working on it.)

My suggestion is to pick a cutoff date, say one month, and if there have been no edits within the last month, send a note to the editor and ask if they are still interested. (Anything more recent should be addressed on an individual basis.)

Sample message:

You asked that userspace draft be moved into article space. We apologize for the extreme delay in responding to this request. We believe there are some issues that need to be addressed before moving this draft, however, we would like to make sure you are still interested in working on this before we review it in detail. In the mean time, we will remove the {{move draft}} request. Please respond if you want the review completed, either by replacing the {{move draft}} template, by posting a note at my talk page, or by posting a request at Requests for feedback.

--SPhilbrick T 11:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I see no problems with that. I noticed that category several months ago, but it was on one of those many drafts left untouched for a while. I'm thinking if it's possible to merge this category with feedback requests--Chzz mentioned to me earlier about having bot report these on IRC, and we could use {{PAGESINCAT}} in a banner somewhere on the feed page to keep track of how many pages there are to be moved. Perhaps a bit of a bolder (and requiring more discussion) idea would be to merge the {{move draft}} category pages into WP:AfC, as AfC already deals with a lot of registered users submitting articles, who might not be ready to just create one in mainspace. Of course, this would add to more workload, but I think it could be managed. —fetch ·comms 19:50, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I haven't spent hardly any time at WP:AfC, so let me poke around to get a sense of it. I'm happy that you see the linkage between Requests for feedback andCategory:Requests to move a userspace draft; I've been worried someone will assume that {{move draft}} belongs with WP:RM, and I'm convinced it does not.

I think I can depopulate most of the stale requests in the next couple days, then I'll go back to work on a more organized approach to addressing the upcoming requests.--SPhilbrick T 20:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Backlog Elimination Drive Wrap-up

Thanks very much to all who helped with the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive. We were very close to meeting our target of 7,500 articles remaining in the backlog. Our most shining success is the incredible reduction in the backlog of Special Requests. That part of the project saw a drop from 62 articles in the queue, some dating back to February of 2009, down to a stunning THREE, all of which were being edited at the close of the drive. The Special Requests page will now be a great resource for people looking to tidy up their article in advance of a GA or FA nomination, instead of a place where articles go to die.

Moving forward

The drive has not only forced a great leap forward in reducing the backlog. It has helped promote the Guild, and led to a greater awareness of the level of vigilance required to keep the backlog manageable. Ideas such as charts, graphs, and barnstars helped motivate editors, and meeting other users helped quell any feelings gnomish editors may have had in the past that they were toiling all alone. Keep up the good work people!!

Stats

Almost everyone who participated will receive a barnstar. We will be handing these out over the next week or so.

Five people will receive the highest award for word count (80,000 or more), the Most Excellent Order of the Caretaker's Star: Bullock, Diannaa, NielsenGW, S Masters, and Torchiest.
The Order of the Superior Scribe (40,000+) goes to Auntieruth55, Bobnorwal, Kojozone, Lfstevens, and Mlpearc.
fds wins the Modern Guild of Copy Editors Barnstar (30,000+).
The Old School League of Copyeditors Barnstar for 20,000+ is awarded to A. Parrot, mono, Truthkeeper88, and The Utahraptor.
the Tireless Conributor Barnstar (12,000+) goes to dtgriffith, Laurinavicius, and Quinxorin.
Buggie111, Brickie, cymru lass, liquidluck, noraft, and Yellow Monkey get the Cleanup Barnstar for 8,000+ words.
The Working Man's Barnstar for 4,000+ words goes to Annalise and fetchcomms.
The Modest Barnstar is awarded to Theo10011 and The Tito.

Gold Star Award

The Gold Star Award goes to the top editor in three challenges: Number of special requests fulfilled, number of articles edited, and number of words. Here are the final results.

**Final results: Gold Star Award:**
	Requests	Articles	Words
1.	SMasters (17)	Torchiest (250)	NielsenGW (150,360)
2.	Bobnorwal (13)	Diannaa (212)	Diannaa (136,200)
3.	Bullock (9)	kojozone (76)	Torchiest (125,000)

Coordinator: ɳorɑfʈ^Talk! Co-coordinators: Diannaa ^TALK and S Masters (talk)

Revision junk

The progress on MacBook Air has ground to a halt; your referencing changes would be done except that I cannot find your revision. In theory, it would be the revision before your timestamp (here), however you cite a ref 45 (ref 45 is a blog, please remove/find alternate) which doesn't exist in the revision above. Could you provide the revision ID so I can make the changes? mono 21:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Um. Please get the timestamp from UTC. Sigs are always UTC time, but page histories are per your prefs--I assume you set it to your time zone. —fetch ·comms 21:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I specifically reset it for that purpose... mono 21:54, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I did it the hard way and went through a ton of revisions. Is this the one? mono 21:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah... I guess Airplaneman removed some other ref while I was looking at it, so I was one off. —fetch ·comms 22:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for causing the confusion – @FC: your talkback template seems to link only to your userpage (I clicked the one from mono's talk). Airplaneman ✈ 22:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Oops, my script didn't seem to want to edit the page, so I did it manual and forgot to type the whole thing. Fixed anywho. —fetch ·comms 22:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I've begun work. mono 22:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Type message title here

thanks for looking at my 1st posting attempt, memory under anesthesia

Mejensen1 (talk) 03:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ricky Blues

On 2 June, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ricky Blues, which you recently nominated. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:YaSSL logo.svg

A tag has been placed on File:YaSSL logo.svg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section I2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. —fetch ·comms 22:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

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