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"Don't Panic" GA review

I think I have addressed all your concerns. Please check. Regards, Efe (talk) 02:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I was actually reviewing the article right before this note. I've passed it; good work on the article. DiverseMentality 02:13, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Diverse. Me and ThinkBlue only need one more article for two GT nominations, Parachutes and X&Y. So if you are interested in reviewing "Fix You", please do it. :) --Efe (talk) 02:30, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I think I'll go for both Violet Hill (song) and Fix You. DiverseMentality 02:39, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. --Efe (talk) 03:30, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Ashanti

Ashanti is not of Puerto Rican decent? Good call, no I mean 'great" call. The fact that she has only declared herself as only "Black" doesn't really mean anything if she "were" of a mixed descent like so many (especially the Asian blogs) claim that she is, but those are not reliable. The problem was the "Disney Kids - Trading Places" should have clarified which Ashanti they were referring to. What can you do, these things happen, right? Take care, Tony the Marine (talk) 03:30, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Yup, they sure do. And I just realized I misspelled "descent". How embarrassing! DiverseMentality 06:38, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Jclemens RfA

Jclemens' RfA Thankspam

		JClemens' RfA Thanks
		Thank you for participating in my Request for Adminship, which passed with 77 supporting and 2 opposing. Regardless of your position, I thank you for the time you took to examine my record and formulate your response. Jclemens (talk) 02:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Paper Trail

I've seen you doing work with the audio box and I had a thought that the box would look better without the "No Matter What" reference. That way you could see all the content more clear.

I didn't want to remove the reference just to have it added again. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 20:35, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

It does look a littler cluttered with the reference in the description of the audio sample. I'll try to work it into the section. DiverseMentality 21:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Bring on the dancing knaves - the beer has wine gums have arrived

Have an unyielding beer on me. Let the amber nectar flow all day and night. Let it run down the mountains and through the caverns and across the rich lawns to swamp the streets. Let it rain beer. Let the heavens open and shine forth beer. Let it all be beer. Wonderful beer. And let it be as deep as the heart of a lion. This is an acknowledgment of your participation in the RfA of: SilkTork *YES!. 19:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in my RfA

I just wanted to take a moment to say "thank you" for taking the time and effort to participate in my recent RfA. As you may know, the discussion closed 66/0/1 and I'm now a holder of the mop. I will keep working to improve the encyclopedia and appreciate the trust which you have placed in me. - Dravecky (talk) 00:19, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

You haven't heard?

Jennifer Hudson's brother-in-law was arrested for the murders today. I added that info myself, but take a look at the article to see if it's alright. I used E! Online and MTV as sources. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 05:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

And the LA Times. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 05:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I've made a few grammar and info changes. The sources are solid. DiverseMentality 05:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Sol-Angel and the Hadley St. Dreams

I just wanted to leave you a quick note and thank you for dropping in and taking care of so many items on the list for the GA review. Thank you very much for your hard work and helping to hasten the review. – Ms. Sarita ^Confer 07:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all. And thank you for also working on the article, including fixing my error of not titling the reference and for taking time to review the article. DiverseMentality 07:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Good Article Nom

Hello, if you have time, would you mind taking a look at Stephens City, Virginia. I nom'd it for Good Article Status a couple days ago. It is under "Places" on the Good Article Nom page. Thanks...NeutralHomer • Talk • December 2, 2008 @ 19:43

Hey there, Neutralhomer. Unfortunately, I don't review articles outside the music topic yet. For now, you'll just have to be patient and wait for someone else to review it. DiverseMentality 19:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Okie Dokie :) Thanks for the reply :) Take Care...NeutralHomer • Talk • December 2, 2008 @ 20:04

Query

Could you please tell me why you quick-failed "808s & Heartbreak" without a SINGLE explanation? I'm assuming you missed the Fail box's main point of "State which criteria were not met on the article's talk page". Please reply, otherwise I shall assume it was vandalism and renominate it. -- A ^talk/_contribs 18:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I left the explanation on the review page. Why would I fail for you to assume it's vandalism? DiverseMentality 22:13, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Because its happened before? Thanks for the comments. -- A ^talk/_contribs 22:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I started reviewing GANs not too long, and I haven't seen an instance where that has happened yet, so I wouldn't have known these unexplaiend fails have happened on a regular basis. Best to assume good faith than to jump to conclusions, right? DiverseMentality 22:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Earth Song

Hi DM, responded here, made improvements and left the odd question. Nearly done. Cheers. — Realist² 15:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your careful consideration at my successful RfA. Please let me know on my talk page if you have any suggestions for me. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 22:18, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Solange Knowles

Hi, Diverse. Thanks for helping me with the GA review. Hope it goes smoothly. --Efe (talk) 11:50, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all. Glad to help. DiverseMentality 18:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Wooooo! Nice. nice. But Durova is busy, I think. --Efe (talk) 00:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, thank you; the photographer was kind enough to change the license to be used here. We'll just have to wait until Durova has time; hopefully soon. DiverseMentality 01:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I did not saw that one. I was checking for freely-licensed images in Flickr but none, only images not allowed in the project. --Efe (talk) 06:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

That won't get much results! I look for all types, and I message the original author asking them for use. That's an easier, more effective trick. DiverseMentality 06:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

But others don't release their images to either CC-BY or CC-BY-SA. There are lots of Beyonce images that are damn excellent. I tried to ask the author but he only released it under CC-NC. Too bad. --Efe (talk) 10:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

White Lies good article review

I've left a couple of comments on the review page of the above article, if you could help me out, that would be great.

In hindsight, it possibly would have been easier to just leave them here... --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 15:39, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I've replied. I'll do my best to work on the article as well. DiverseMentality 17:21, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for all your help --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 02:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

What do you think of the lead of the article at the moment? Is it good for the GA status? --00:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Yup, all good. Just a few more issues left. DiverseMentality 01:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I think i may have dealt with all the issues. Get back to me if you think its good enough --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 05:07, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll give the article another look tomorrow morning, I WikiGnome at night. DiverseMentality 06:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

T.I

Since Ti is locked, pls edit it for me.
I thinkthe 1st TI section should be changed from 'early life' to 'bio'. Then add his kids. Here is the info to add:

TI has sons sons Messiah Ya'Majesty(2000) and Domani Uriah(2001) with ex-girlfriend Lashon Dixon. His daughter Deyjah Imani Harris(2004) is with another ex. He has dated R&B singer Tameka Cottle on and off since 2001. They have two sons : Clifford Joseph Harris 3rd(25 Aug 04) and Major Philant Harris (17 May 08). Their daughter Llayah Armour Harris was stillborn on 21 March 2007 . Cottle has daughter Zonnique Pullins(96)with a record producer named Zebo .

Thanks DM. 72.66.94.160 (talk) 00:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, looking at the references, NNDb is not a reliable source; I'm not sure of celebrity-babies.com, so I'll look over the site and figure that out. I'll work the two sourced by Vibe and E! into the article. DiverseMentality 01:28, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thx.Why isnt NNDB relaible? 'celebrity-babies.com' is owned by People (magazine) so I know that is reliable. Anyways his kids are all over the web so it shouldnt be hard 2 find them. Also how come when kids names are added to bios it gets reverted citing privacy? Steven Speilberg, Ang Jolie, etc ahve their kids names on their apges. It isnt like were giving out their address. Thx.

NNDb can be edited by anyone, making it an unreliable source. I'll do some searching for T.I.'s children's names. Also, what article is this reverting being done at? Adding children's names backed with reliable sources doesn't violate any policy. DiverseMentality 21:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:The Cookbook/GA1

Reviewed, nothing major, could be done in an hours work probably. — Realist² 18:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, Realist. I'll work on those issues. DiverseMentality 18:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

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"Umbrella" GA review

Yeah, I noticed it. I will be attending a conference, so if I fail to address the concerns in one week, would it be fine if you extend it? --Efe (talk) 09:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. --Efe (talk) 05:31, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

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I Will Follow You into the Dark

Read your GA review and tweaked the article.--Remurmur (talk) 08:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

re

all HongKong people called him either his Chinese name or the name "MC Jin", he also named himself "MC Jin" on a programme of radio--JackyCheung (talk) 11:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

um...but don't you think that no disambig is better?--JackyCheung (talk) 02:41, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

replied

to a recent request on this poor fellow's talk. 86.44.18.218 (talk) 10:43, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Replied on that talk page. DiverseMentality 02:18, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

While we're in the shop, I asked a while ago how you determined sources as unreliable in your 808s & Hearbreak GA review, on that page. 86.44.18.218 (talk) 10:43, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Self-published sources, such as self-created blogs and self-created sites, are not acceptable sources per our verifiability policy. I have no idea why I added Rap-Up though, that's a magazine; my mistake on that one. DiverseMentality 02:18, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Ne-Yo

On the history section of the article Ne-Yo, you state that the years active field should state 1999-present, because "writing credits began in 1999" (which is what you provided in the edit summary). I had put 2005-present because releasing singles (and probably recording albums) began in 2005. I would like to know what "writing credits" means and what it has to do with his years active. Merry Christmas!-71.63.45.143 (talk) 22:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

If you view his writing discography, he started writing songs since 1999. DiverseMentality 02:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

FYI, I am working on the article. =) --Efe (talk) 10:41, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I saw you added to it late last night and I saw how you've expanded it. Good stuff. DiverseMentality 22:59, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I think I understand now. Thanks for the info.-71.63.45.143 (talk) 22:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem. DiverseMentality 22:59, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

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Merry Chistmas, too, DiverseMentality. Have a fruitful Wiki2009. --Efe (talk) 08:38, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks, Merry Christmas! Gary King (talk) 16:51, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Winter Holiday

Hope you have a wonderful winter holiday. — Realist² 16:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas from Promethean

O'Hai there Explicit, Merry Christmas!

Explicit,
I wish you and your family all the best this Christmas and that you also have a Happy and safe new year.
Thankyou for all your contributions to Wikipedia this year and I look forward to seeing many more from you in the future.
Your work around Wikipedia has not gone un-noticed, this notice is testimony to that
Please feel free to drop by my talkpage any time to say Hi, as I will probably say Hi back :)

All the Best.   «l| Ψrometheăn ™|l»  (talk)

Re: Merry Christmas

Thank you very much indeed! Have yourself a wonderful Christmas too. Funk Junkie (talk) 19:04, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas from me as well, DM! --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 01:38, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Merry Christmas

Thank you so much for the Christmas wishes. It was very thoughtful of you. I hope you had a wonderful day! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family! – Ms. Sarita ^Confer 04:23, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Merry Christmas

Hey, thanks for the Christmas wish! I apologize fo my lateness. Hopefully, you had a spectacular Christmas. Have a Happy New Year! -- A ^talk/_contribs 18:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:JuStar

You may wish to review this User - as you have had dealings with them recently. They are continuously making disruptive edits, and also blanking out all comments on their talk page, so it looks like they have had no issues. Unsure if this is against wiki policy Eight88 (talk) 00:16, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey there Eight88; blanking one's talk page isn't against policy, but his disruptive editing is definitely an issue. It gets tiresome. DiverseMentality 01:22, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Are you able to do anything about this User? Refer E=MC² (Mariah Carey album). How does one tell whether this User and an IP address are the same? User talk:89.214.175.137 . Both editing at same time, both blanking their talkpages. Eight88 (talk) 21:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

You can report in two places for users not following WP:CHARTS and constantly causing disruption: WP:AIV and WP:ANI. DiverseMentality 23:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Eight88 (talk) 00:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Liberian

I-20 is Liberian. His parents are Liberian. Ask him yourself. PR Dece/28th/2008' 3:58 A.M. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pekin Republican (talk • contribs) 08:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks.

I appreciate you taking the time to correct vandalism on our page and others. Do you have any suggestions for minimizing acts of vandalism? Is there a simple way of taking the page back to July, 30, 2008? Is there a way of blocking consistent abusers?

Sincerely, 207.88.53.69 (talk) 16:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome. There are a few ways of minimizing acts of vandalism: users who receive a final warning and vandalize after their warning can be reported to Administrators for a temporary block to avoid further disruption. If multiple IPs and new users consistently vandalize an article where blocking is not an option, you can request an article to be protected. Hope I've helped. DiverseMentality 17:49, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

The sources

Well I'm pretty sure I left all the awards with sources...after the name of every award I left a source, but anyways, here --> http://www.yoraps.com/news1.php?subaction=showfull&id=1230653828&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1& http://www.yoraps.com/news1.php?subaction=showfull&id=1230291864&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1& http://www.yoraps.com/news1.php?subaction=showfull&id=1229506906&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1& http://www.yoraps.com/news1.php?subaction=showfull&id=1229440468&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1& http://yoraps.com/news1.php?subaction=showfull&id=1229324711&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1& —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.129.97 (talk) 03:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you meant to contact User:Mfield, as he removed the Yo! awards. Regardless, please see Talk:Lupe Fiasco#The Yo! rap awards for further information. DiverseMentality 03:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

My sincerest apologies!

Sorry, but I've been on vacation and it's only now I've logged into Wikipedia and saw your Christmas message, so please don't think that I've disregarded that. I hope you had a great holiday season as well and I wish you a great '09! --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 02:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

No worries, I just cried myself to sleep every night. Hope you enjoyed your holiday vacation. DiverseMentality 02:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Sean Paul's name

How do you cite things DuttyYo (talk) 16:48, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks DuttyYo (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

ok i was right in the begining i have found sufficient evidence from his own official website http://www.allseanpaul.com/biography/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by DuttyYo (talk • contribs) 23:42, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Flagged Revs

Hi,

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Request to move article Want It,Need It incomplete

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vandalism issues

Hello I am user bmedick and my articles continue to get vandalized by user Peter Stella and Peecee1978. Just thought you should know. I don't know what do anymore, I work hard on these articles and people for some reason get enjoyment out of destroying them. Pretty annoying, ugh! Any way you could help would be great. Thanks. Bmedick (talk) 17:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

If you could link me to any articles where these two are vandalizing, I'll look over them and take any appropriate action. DiverseMentality 19:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Madonna, Rihanna, Britney according to WP:SINGLE

Hi Diverse, i am in the process of modifying the single pages of the above artists according to WP:SINGLE for being a WP:GA article. Can you please keep an eye on their changes. I was recommended to you by User:Realist2. Thanking you, "Legolas" (talk) 04:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Are there any specific articles you have in mind? DiverseMentality 04:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

All the single pages by these artists donot meet the guidelines according to WP:SINGLE, so i am in the middle of editing them. You can check out the Madonna singles. I have completed editing till Like A Prayer. "Legolas" (talk) 05:10, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Ludacris and Ne Yo review

Why was the review taken off of the page written by This Is Hip Hop? The reviewer is also reviewing albums on www.okayplayer.com (none have gone up yet). Why can't the review be added to the page? Not really understanding this process and people monitoring over things that are added. Because if you are monitoring things on this page are incorrect. "Virgo" was not sampled in "MVP". The producer sampled parts of "MVP" for the song's chorus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pan21897 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Why are you taking down the review? Did you go to the site and read them? What was wrong with the review? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pan21897 (talk • contribs) 05:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I left an edit summary of Only ten reviews per WP:ALBUMS. If you read the last paragraph of this section, it states that no more than ten reviews should be added, and you added an eleventh. Hopefully I've cleared things up. DiverseMentality 05:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Duets:_The_Final_Chapter

^^^^ Has more than 10 reviews. Why hasn't the rules been followed for this as well? Can the review be added someplace else on the pages? I'm sorry, but I'm just not understanding the process.

Didn't answer the question about the Ne-Yo review. It was a citation towards a review for the album. Pan21897 (talk) 04:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

That's because no one has gotten around to it, but I have just taken care of that one. There are thousands of articles, so there's bound to be plenty of articles with more reviews. As for the Ne-Yo, I'm assuming you mean this edit where you added the link. That is based on the critical reception of all reviews listed in Metacritic's website, not for each positive review the album received. Also, there's no need to create a new section for every response, just reply in this section. Thank you. DiverseMentality 04:32, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Alicia Keys

Hi Diverse. Keys is actually one of my future projects; as you can see, I have been adding stuffs lately. But I am fully aware that you've been there before I had my first edit, or prior to adding Keys one of my projects. And I see you have added more refs there, and even passed it to PR. Just want to let you know that I am willing to help in the GA/FA process. --Efe (talk) 12:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll be needing all the help I can get. DiverseMentality 00:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Poker Face

Can you come to the Poker Face (Lady GaGa song) page. There is some major screwup at the Chart procession subsection table and i can't figure it out. Please help! "Legolas" (talk) 09:02, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Hopefully I got it right. DiverseMentality 09:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't seem to get it fixed (I'm bad with succession tables...). You might want to ask someone else to do it on the talk page. DiverseMentality 09:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Wa wa wa, wat to do now??? Anyways thanks for your help. Appreciated. "Legolas" (talk) 09:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Ashanti (singer)

Yes, sorry about that, I was reverting to an old version but did not realize you had reverted to an even older revision beforehand. I have undone it. -RunningOnBrains 04:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Augie March

Thanks for your attention to the article! I'll have a look through your concerns and get back to you once everything's fixed up. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 23:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC).

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Kanonkas

Thank you DiverseMentality for voting in my successfully closed RfA! I'm glad that you trust me. Ping me if you need anything! Best regards, --Kanonkas :  Talk  19:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA thankspam

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Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Record_Charts#List_of_number-one_hits_.28United_States.29

A concern has been raised on the project's talk page. Please have a look. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 11:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 80 support, 2 oppose, and 1 neutral. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the community has placed in me. R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Seeing Sounds

Hi, I am reviewing your article, Seeing Sounds, for GA and have left my initial comments at Talk:Seeing Sounds/GA1. In general, the article looks good. Some of the prose needs clarification and perhaps some of the quotes should go into blockquotes or quoteboxes. Please feel free to contact me with comments or questions. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 16:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Augie March

Thanks for the comment on my talk page, and I may just do that. Apart from the refs, is there currently any issue with the article that would stop you agreeing to put it to GA? Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 10:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC).

Hey, is there anything else that needs to be done before it can be passed? Giggy (talk) 13:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

thank you

My RFA passed today at 150/48/6. I wanted to thank you for weighing in on the RFA--I will do everything I can to uphold the policies of this site, and try to make it a better place. All the comments, questions, and in particular the opposes I plan to work on and learn from, so that I can hopefully always do the right thing with the huge trust given to me. rootology (C)(T) 08:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for the trust you placed in me by supporting my RfA (which passed and, apparently, I am now an admin!). I will do my best to continue to act in a way that is consistent with the policies of wikipedia as well with our common desire to build and perfect this repository of human knowledge; and can only hope that you never feel that your trust was misplaced. Thanks again! --Regent's Park (Rose Garden) 00:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at WikiProject Record Charts

Please see this discussion and provide your opinion on proposed page moves. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 01:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Alicia Keys

I am reviewing your article, Alicia Keys, for GA and have left some comments at Talk:Alicia Keys/GA1. Just a few things listed, as it is a wonderful article. I did some copy editing which you are free to change. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:21, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for another review, Mattisse. I'll get to it ASAP. DiverseMentality 22:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Tools

Why the lack of extra tools? I appreciate some people don't want the bit but I'm sure it would come in handy at times.... Pedro :  Chat  16:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey there, Pedro. I'm going to have to pass for now for now. Considering that Spring semester at school begins Monday, I'm not sure how active I'll still be. I also don't want to rush into becoming an admin; I want to make sure I'm 100% ready for the position. Thanks for the thought, though. DiverseMentality 20:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Of course, and I understand your RL commitments. Let me know when you fancy a week of purgatory and I'd be happy to nominate if you wanted. Happy editing! Pedro :  Chat  23:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry - I accidently reviewed Stargate (production team)

By mistake I reviewed Stargate (production team) and transcluded Talk:Stargate (production team)/GA1. I don't know how you want to handle it. You can just go ahead and do your review and ignore mine. I did not notify the nominator, User:Efe. Sorry! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 21:49, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

You got to it first, go ahead. No worries. DiverseMentality 22:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

OK. I don't know how that happened! Thanks for being gracious about it! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 23:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

What?!?!

No mention of Chris Brown's canceled Grammy performance and investigation for assaulting a woman? I was watching Chris Brown to see if anybody would add anything, but it's like nobody knows! I know, I know, be bold, but still! --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 03:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I've added it. Don't be afraid to be bold. DiverseMentality 04:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Alicia Keys POV

Regarding your edit here; what part of the section do you feel is POV? DiverseMentality 04:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Every part of the section. It's supposed to discuss the music style of the singer, but is, instead, a compilation of praises of how she is great, and has great artistry, and is the best thing to ever happen to music. I've read many criticisms of Alicia Keys, especially of her last album from reputable sources that claim how she is overrated (consider a Chicago Tribune article, or Washington Post: "When I think of her [Alicia Keys], I can't help but type 'overrated.'" Theres' a host of other articles. While I do not expect that these sources should definitely be mentioned in the article, I do expect some sort of balance. Orane (talk) 05:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

(My response at my talk page) Oh my. It should not be. It was just recently passed to GA status. First thing, I suggest to invite User:Journalist who tagged it to explain in detail the reasons why, and points lines where arguable. I believe its because of the quotes, but its quotes. Second, contact User:Mattisse since he/she is the one who reviewed it. If that part is indeed POVish in nature, Mattisse should have noticed it. I see what I can help when they're comments become live. --Efe (talk) 06:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, Orane is here. Since there are lots of quotations there, I think it should be balanced, including those negatives, as pointed out by him. --Efe (talk) 06:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Consider the balance here as opposed to the section in the Alicia Keys article. Orane (talk) 08:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to work on that. DiverseMentality 22:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

A good improvement. Sounds more balanced. Thanks, and sorry for the bother. Orane (talk) 04:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Rihanna

I'm personally not interested in an edit war, so please see Talk:Rihanna#2009 Grammy's. --Whip it! ^{Now whip it good!} 05:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Chris Brown Vandalism

I thought you would like to know that User:Thetruthreport has now been banned. I noticed we both warned him over his vandalism on the Chris Brown page, but I also saw he had a history of committing vandalism and the administrators agreed when i reported him. Magemirlen (talk) 08:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice. DiverseMentality 22:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

My apologies

My apologies if I came off unusually pushy at Talk:Rihanna#2009 Grammy's. My goal wasn't to offend any other editors or to try and "have it my way" with the argument. I want what's best for the article like everyone else. --Whip it! ^{Now whip it good!} 23:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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Thank You!

Thank you for your last minute support in my RfA, which passed with 61 support, 3 oppose, and 1 neutral You're right -- it never hurts. Cheers! Nja247 20:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Userbox for GA reviews

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P$C

Just to let you know that this page, which you PRODdded some time ago and was deleted accordingly, has had the deletion contested at today's DRV. In accordance with PROD policy, the article has now been restored. I am letting you know in case you wish to AFD it. Stifle (talk) 17:34, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

What Are You Going to Do with Your Life?

Hi, thanks for the GA review and the pass. I wish I could do them all that easily! Thanks again, --JD554 (talk) 08:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

A pleasure, it was a great article. DiverseMentality 20:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Charts

We have two unresolved threads. Please visit. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 04:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

West End Girls

Thanks for all your help, and for passing the article. Regards. Frcm1988 (talk) 23:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. Congratulations and good work. DiverseMentality 23:52, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Natashajones2009

I think Aaliyahforever is the puppeteer, while Natasha is the sock. I'll make the corrections and move the page appropriately to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aaliyahforever. MuZemike 23:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about that. I was on both users' talk pages, I must've got them mixed up. Thanks for the correction. DiverseMentality 23:25, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

IP 189.101.5.219

Response my talk Jeepday (talk) 22:24, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Trolling

Thanks for the revert of the trolling on my user talk page! Camw (talk) 22:58, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. DiverseMentality 23:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Eminem

Hi man, can you please revert the WP:MOS violation disguised as "cleanup"? Much appreciated, thanks! 130.216.30.234 (talk) 22:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Nas Untitled Album Reviews

Please consider adding this notable professional review from AllHipHop.com. The site is the most popular Hip-Hop website in the world with over 5 million monthly visitors and also one of the most respected sites for news, album reviews, and interviews. It is a very thorough album review. Allahschild1981 (talk) 04:04, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

http://allhiphop.com/stories/reviews/archive/2008/07/07/20264494.aspx

Even if that is the case, only ten reviews are allowed in the infobox. Since there are already ten reviews there, there's no need for any additional reviews. Further information can be found here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums#Professional reviews. DiverseMentality 04:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Pete Wentz

Not sure why you edited out the official pete wentz twitter link from his wiki entry? It's very relevant to him as a person - you'll see he uses it many times a day...

Let me know. Thx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woknad (talk • contribs) 22:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It's unnecessary external link. If you take a look at WP:EL and WP:NOTLINK, there should be a limited amount of links. Considering he has a blog that links to his Twitter, it's also redundant. DiverseMentality 22:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

How about this - the bartskulls films url is a deadlink and not a valid link for pete wentz. Let's remove that and add the twitter link - which as I mentioned is highly relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woknad (talk • contribs) 20:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I've removed a few external links. As I mentioned above, there's no need for the Twitter link when it's linked in his official blog. DiverseMentality 20:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand your argument. If you don't click his blog link how do you know there is a twitter? The information posted on each is completely different as well. It's not redundant at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woknad (talk • contribs) 20:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

We can't link every site that leads to an artist; Wikipedia is not a link repository. Per WP:ELNO, points ten and eleven: "(10) Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace and Facebook), chat or discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups), USENET newsgroups or e-mail lists. (11) Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority (this exception is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for biographies)." Many musicians have a Twitter account, but because those links are available on their official site or blog, they're unnecessary and clog up the external links section. DiverseMentality 20:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

AssessorTags

Hi! I just wanted to let you know that I have added WikiProject Songs to the AssessorTags script as requested. Thanks for the interest, and be sure to let me know if you'd like to see other projects added or have other suggestions. –Drilnoth (T • C) 01:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I plan on requesting a few more, but I don't want to flood you with work. I would like to point out that your notices have a typo in the last sentence: "Please not" → "Please note". DiverseMentality 01:26, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

D'oh! Thanks for pointing out that typo. Anyway, feel free to add in requests... they really don't take long, unless the project has a lot of task forces, work groups, or the like. –Drilnoth (T • C) 01:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Lupe Fiasco's new album

I want to edit the information about his future albums and wanted to know if I should post this

" On March 22, 2009, he posted on his FnF Army blog the quote "If You Build It...Somebody Should Show Up..." and a link to the Twitter account We Are Lasers. It was revealed to be his Twitter account with the name "Album No. 3". Later that same day, he posted on his Twitter account that he did not like where The Great American Rap Album was going so he has postponed it. So instead he's going to use an old concept he had thought of and use that for his new album. He had also stated that LupE.N.D. was canceled without any explanation why. " where it leaves off in the ""The Great American Rap Album (2009–present)"" section or should I somehow blend it in? Also does Twitter count as a reliable source? It is from Lupe himself. The proof is there in the references. I would like your opinion. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.191.207.49 (talk • contribs) 06:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Twitter isn't a reliable source, so that can't be used. The closest thing I found to reliable was AllHipHop, but even then, it's in the Rumors section, it's not written in stone. It's best to for a reliable source to pick up on the story, like Billboard, Rap-Up or directly from Fiasco's own site. DiverseMentality 16:07, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

But if the Twitter is his and he posted the link to his twitter in his blog? I understand and I'll just wait for a reliable source to post something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.129.94.96 (talk) 20:33, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

La Isla Bonita

Hi Diverse, I'm developing the article "La Isla Bonita" for GA here. could you please take a look and see if anything's missing. Also i'm kinda low on the critical reception area. could you help me out with that. thanks. --Legolas ^(talktome) 06:37, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll give it a look when I come back from school in about… five hours or so. DiverseMentality 16:07, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits. It was a real help. :) --Legolas ^(talktome) 03:47, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem at all. DiverseMentality 04:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

This may be a dumb question...

...But why'd you change your name? --Whip it! ^{Now whip it good!} 03:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

A vague explanation can be found on my user page. — Σxplicit 01:32, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar!

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	For your participation in the Spring 2009 GAN backlog elimination drive, in which you reviewed 5 articles, you are granted this barnstar! Great work! —The participants on the Spring 2009 GAN backlog elimination drive 21:20, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

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Request for an interview

Hi, I am a researcher studying Wikipedia, specifically looking at the use of scripts and gadgets like Twinkle. One of my chapters is an account of the routine block of a vandal - one who you reverted and warned. I'd like to make sure that I have all the details correct, and also want to ask you a few questions about how you use various tools in the wiki. Would you be free for a short interview over e-mail? If so, please leave a message on my talk page or contact me via email. I have a PGP/GPG key pair that you can use to contact me securely if you so desire. Stu ^(aeiou)_{I'm Researching Wikipedia} 16:53, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Temporary injunction and your use of my monobook script

Hi,

I am pleased to see that you have used my monobook script to remove the autoformatting or linking of dates or other functions; I hope you have found it useful.

This is to let you know that ArbCom has announced a temporary injunction against the "mass delinking of dates". You can still delink dates on an occasional basis; however, you may wish to be cautious and use the script only for its non-date functions until the issue is resolved by an RFC poll. You may wish to express your view on autoformatting and date linking in the RFC at: Wikipedia:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll.

Regards Lightmouse (talk) 18:57, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Age Ain't Nothing but a Number

Hey there Journalist, I noticed you moved Age Ain't Nothing but a Number to Age Ain't Nothing But a Number. I'd like to point out that capitalization of the word but is incorrect. Per WP:ALBUMCAPS, but is a coordinating conjunction and should not be capitalized. I was going to move the article back to it's appropriate capitalization, but that page already has two edits, so I thought I'd let you know. — Σxplicit 08:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for the heads up, and I'm glad you haven't changed it just yet. It took me a long time to actually sort out my head (is it a conjunction? is it a preposition etc), but I actually think that it is an adverb, and that's why I changed it (as we know, adverbs are capitalized).

Answers.com states

• But

adv.

1. Merely; just; only.

2. And nothing more.

This sorts of fits in with the idea of the phrase "Age Is Nothing But a Number— Age Is Merely a Number/Age Is Only a Number/Age Is a Number, and Nothing More/Age Is Just a Number..." you get the idea. Thoughts? Orane (talk) 00:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Then again, on Dictionary.com under conjunction, point two, it reads, "except; save". Age Ain't Nothing but a Number → Age is nothing except a number. In this case, it is a conjunction and seems to work. I suppose this is arguable. — Σxplicit 01:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I see your point, but there's a slight difference. "Except/save" suggest that it is this, because it is not all of those other things. In other words, "except" seems simply to exclude conditions/things (I hate everyone except you).

However the original phrase "Age Is Nothing But a Number" implies something more than that — it attaches a value/judgement to it, which makes it adverbial in nature. The phrase aims to belittle the concept fo "age" to the status of a number, (rendering it insignificant), which makes adverbs like "merely" or "just" far more appropriate and befitting. Won't you agree?

I know "except" works, but why settle for something that simply works when you have something that hits the nail on the head? Orane (talk) 01:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I went ahead and searched a few sites that listed the album (Allmusic, Rolling Stone, iTunes, etc.) and, those that used proper capitalization did in fact capitalize but. Guess I was wrong on this one. — Σxplicit 02:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

No problem. And I wouldn't say you're wrong; you did have a valid point, and as I stated your idea also works. Orane (talk) 03:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

School

Can I ask what college you attend? I go to Mt. San Antonio College in southern California. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 05:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

For the matter of privacy, I can't comfortably reveal the college I attend; sorry. Though I don't mind reveal that I am also in southern California. — Σxplicit 05:12, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Not a problem. Nice to know fellow Californians. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 05:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Fantasy Ride

Jeeze, can you believe some people? there is over 5 different verifiable sources which prove that the track listing has been confirmed. Its even more ridiculous because Ciaraword.com (official website) has even approved amazon's version for pre-order therefore it must be correct right? this article needs protection from IP vandalism. Thanks for putting in the request. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:48, 7 April 2009 (UTC))

Yes, it gets tiresome, especially since Ciara's official website confirms that the track listing on Amazon.com is the correct one. And no problem for the request for protection. — Σxplicit 21:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

How is adding that table vandalism —Preceding unsigned comment added by TrEeMaNsHoE (talk • contribs) 21:00, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

RFA thanks

My RFA passed today at 61/5/4. Thanks for participating in my RFA. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the WP community has placed in me. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 21:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

A plea for "by-the-bookness"

Didn't recognize you under the new name ... I was surprised to see a new editor so vigorously defending Wikipedia against the Brazil Hot 100. Can I persuade you to stick scrupulously to the four level warning structure when enforcing WP:BADCHARTS? There are enough people that think it's questionable to call it vandalism in the first place, there's no reason to give them extra ammunition by shortcutting a warning level. A peak at User talk:201.209.224.71 shows the warnings I get. The higher warnings are

• {{subst:uw-vandalism2|article name|Do not add the xxx charts, or any other chart listed at WP:BADCHARTS to any Wikipedia articles.}}
• {{subst:uw-vandalism3|article name|You must not add the xxx charts, or any other chart listed at WP:BADCHARTS to any Wikipedia articles.}}
• {{subst:uw-vandalism4|article name|You must not add the xxx charts, or any other chart listed at WP:BADCHARTS to any Wikipedia articles.}}

—Kww(talk) 03:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I knew no one knew who I was anymore. Anyway, I was unaware these warning templates existed. I've added them to my quick list and I'll make sure to make use of them from now on. Thanks for the notice. — Σxplicit 04:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

You can always customize the trailer message of the "uw-vandalism" macros to fit the situation by adding the custom text as a second argument. I usually do, both because that "Thank you" at the end irritates me and because it helps make sure the person receiving it gets the point. A message like You've been informed multiple times that gossip blogs can't be used as sources tacked onto the vandalism message can go along way. With newbies, sometimes the reason they repeat the bad edit is because they haven't got a clue as to why it was treated as vandalism. 99% of the time, it's because they're vandals, but there always is the 1%.—Kww(talk) 04:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I guess it depends on the situation. Some IP editors are completely unaware of WP:BADCHARTS and probaby don't bother reading it, while others are persistent to get the chart in there despite being told not to add it. I use the "thank you" at the end for first time offenders. Past that, I feel the warnings should be straight to the point and shouldn't be sugarcoated with courtesies, as they either don't read our guidelines and polices or just straight out ignore them. — Σxplicit 04:22, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: HotCat

Thanks for the suggestion, But I find my way alot easier. :) QuasyBoy 14:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thankspam

Thanks to everyone who took the time and trouble to take part in my RfA whether support, oppose or neutral. All comments are valued and will be considered carefully in the coming weeks. Feel free to add more advice on my talk page if you think I need it. SpinningSpark 00:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC) In case you're wondering, the image is a smiley, just a little more aesthetic, but not as serious as the Mona Lisa

Jennifer Lopez (no accent)

Actually there is an accent over the 'O' in her last name, but accents aren't "important" in the English language is it is seldom included. I didn't correct it though because it is in English, not in SPanish or another language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexander.hugh.george (talk • contribs) 18:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

If that were true, that Spanish Wikipedia would have the accent above the "o", which it doesn't. — Σxplicit 18:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Alicia Keys

Hey, I responded to your comment on my talk page, but in the process, I accidentally removed it, or something happened. I've tried putting it back, but there seems to be some problems with my talk page again. This has happened many times before, unfortunately. I'll see if I can do anything about it later. Anyway, as I was saying there, I should have been more clear about the whole "Biography" title. There may be a few featured articles that have that "Biography" title, but they usually don't. Not to mention that more and more of those "Biography" titles are starting to gradually be removed. Either way, it's still an unnecessary title, in my opinion. As I said in the edit summary, the whole article is technically a biography. If you want to discuss this further, go ahead and respond to my comment on your talk page, as I'll have it watched. Take care. -- Luke4545 (talk) 20:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Your talk page issue is definitely strange. I hope things get fixed quickly. As for the header, I'd have to argue that it is necessary as not the entire article is strictly her biography. For example, the "Musical style" section of the article is more of an analysis of the artist's music from a critical perspective. I'd say this hardly has anything to do with her life, but more of how others view her musicianship. I think the biography header distinguishes her personal life and career endeavors from her musical style, as well as the following sections. — Σxplicit 20:29, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but if a section like "Musical style" is thought to not be part of her biography, then why would it be necessary to have a "Biography" title to distinguish anything in the first place? It's just adding a header to content and sections that are already established in the mind of the reader, going by that rationale; thus, it's unnecessary. I don't know if what I'm saying is making any sense; so, I apologize if that's the case. Heh. Also, I remember someone in another article pointing out a policy or discussion regarding the unnecessary use of "Biography" titles. I'll try to find it, and if I do, I'll post it here. -- Luke4545 (talk) 20:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I completely understand what you mean. If you do find that discussion regarding the header, I'd like to give it a look. Okay, so now, let's say you removed the biography header from Janet Jackson, which currently has ten sections in the table of contents. Were you to removed it and manage it like you did in Keys' article, that would add up to almost twenty sections in the ToC. It would become overwhelming and messy. In this case, the biography header would from making the ToC overwhelming. — Σxplicit 21:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

If you count those sub-sections in the Janet Jackson article, there are still over 20 titles. So, I don't see how taking out the "Biography" title in that case would make the ToC seem overwhelming and messy. It would just be a difference of turning those sub-sections into single sections. I guess we just have a difference of opinion on appearance. Maybe in an article such as that, if you want to keep everything as is, then using the heading "Career" may be more appropriate. I know it may seem like a matter of semantics, but "Biography" just seems too all-encompassing. I don't know if I'd implement that type of formatting in every article that has a "Biography" heading, but for those that have a lot of sections, changing "Biography" to a different title (such as "Career") wouldn't be too much of a problem. What do you think? -- Luke4545 (talk) 21:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I suppose that would work. If there is a consensus to not use a "biography" header, perhaps it should be discussed and noted in WP:BLP? — Σxplicit 22:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I think discussion in WP:MOS may be more appropriate, but WP:BLP might work as well. As I said, though, I remember someone mentioning a policy or discussion somewhere about this; I'm still trying to find it. There was brief discussion over at WP:MOSHEAD, but that was from nearly two years ago. The instance I'm referring to was fairly recent I think. -- Luke4545 (talk) 22:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I guess it does makes more sense to start a discussion in WT:MOS. I'll create a new discussion there shortly. — Σxplicit 22:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Someone alluded to this over at WT:MOS, but you may be interested in checking out Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies). There's been extensive discussion over there regarding "Biography" headings. -- Luke4545 (talk) 07:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I'll search the archives when I return from school later today. — Σxplicit 16:13, 20 April 2009 (UTC) Alright, I found a discussion of this exact topic, found here. The discussion seems to be divided, much like we are, and there still seems to be no consensus on whether biography headers should be used or not. — Σxplicit 21:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

So, how do you propose we go about this further? I don't know if we're editing any other similar articles besides Alicia Keys, but I think, at the very least for articles with a lot of sections (i.e. Janet Jackson), "Biography" headings should be re-named to something such as "Career," as I alluded to above. For articles that don't have a lot of sections, I think "Biography" headings should be removed completely, or possibly renamed, if appropriate. Anyway, I'd be interested if you have any other suggestions. -- Luke4545 (talk) 01:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps starting a discussion on articles that use the header? To get more discussion going, see the viewpoints of others. I don't necessarily mean hunting down biographies for these headings, but when seeing one, discussing it and see if others agree with your view or have arguments against it. — Σxplicit 05:32, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you think a time frame should be put on that type discussion? For example, what if discussion is started on that topic, but no one responds to it for a couple of weeks, or there is very little discussion? Should changes be made then? Or perhaps go ahead with the changes first, and then if anyone has any objections to it, they can bring it up in the talk page? I could mention that in the edit summary. I'd probably be willing to go along with either option, unless you have something else in mind. -- Luke4545 (talk) 05:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

It's up to you, really. You can boldly alter the heading, or discuss it on the talk page first. If you plan to discuss it first, I usually wait for two weeks to allow editors time to reply. If no replies are made, I would then go ahead with the change. If a revert is made, there's always WP:BRD. — Σxplicit 06:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Alrighty. I think I'll go ahead and attempt either of the scenarios you outlined - the choice being dependent on the article. Anyway, it was good having this discussion with you. -- Luke4545 (talk) 06:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry Case

I am sorry if i am accused of Suppuppetry to Block user Television Radio because that user has been accused of abusing to many accounts am I wish I wasn't accused of that because I am a new User To Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Staskiworski (talk • contribs) 20:29, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. — Σxplicit 20:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Smells like a duck to me as well. Good catch, Explicit! Wuhwuzdat (talk) 02:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I caught him after seeing your your edit in Alicia Keys. — Σxplicit 03:48, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

bad charts???

The charts that i add are legitimate, as are the citations i add to them, i just think that I need a list of ALL the charts that are there because obviously i am doing them wrong.

And i need this list of "bad charts" because i keep getting that the charts im adding are apart of this bad charts list but how do i refer to this list to know what not to add???

and could i get a list of all the "good" charts so i know what to add?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldt88 07 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Peaceful Editing

		The Barnstar of Peace
		for constant co-operation when asked for and for using iniative in the constant improvement of articles Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:24, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for the barnstar! — Σxplicit 21:44, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Evan Ross on Girlfriends

Hello. I was the editor on all 8 seasons of "Girlfriends". Evan Ross appeared, uncredited, in episode 171. He plays a record producer, and has multiple lines of dialogue. I am not sure how you want me to verify this; I just checked youtube and only the very end of the episode (a scene with Crissette Michelle and Persia White) is posted. Season 8 isn't on DVD yet, so I cannot grab a screen shot. I am not sure what I can do other than say that I was the editor and he was in the show. Phatnblak (talk) 02:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Found a page from the New York Times. He was uncredited on screen, but the Times apparently knew he was on because they list him in the episode. Here is the link: http://tv.nytimes.com/episode/71769/Girlfriends/overview —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phatnblak (talk • contribs) 02:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

RFA thank you

My RFA passed today at 75/2/1 so I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. Special thanks go to GlassCobra and FlyingToaster for their nomination and support. Cheers! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank-you!

Thank-you for helping everyone with music charts and what to add. You are making wikipedia a good and liable place to get information. Thank-you again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Microwave09 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind comment. — Σxplicit 03:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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