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Question from Manormedia (03:07, 20 February 2024)

hello I'm really struggling to get a proper biography image to use for my article on Angelo Molinari the actor. most of the images ive uploaded to commons violate the copyright rules. I wanted to use his photograph from IMDb. How can I upload an image that has already been poosted withouth violating the wikipedia policies? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. --Manormedia (talk) 03:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Manormedia. You cannot use any non-free or copyright protected photo in any article about a living person. The vast majority of contemporary photos that you find online are copyright protected, so it is your obligation to prove that any given photo is not copyright protected. You could take a photo of Molinari himself, and freely license it. You could contact Molinari or his team, and ask them to upload a freely licensed photo. But you cannot use a random photo lacking a free license. Cullen328 (talk) 03:52, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
I understand. Thank you very much for this. I was getting very discouraged. If I am able to get him to pose for a photo how would I prove that it is my original work? Manormedia (talk) 03:55, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Manormedia, the Exif data generated by your phone or camera will be sufficient. So, do not publish the photo anywhere else and do not turn off the data logging of your camera or phone. Cullen328 (talk) 04:04, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Okay great thanks so much! Manormedia (talk) 04:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Shreyansh Raghuwanshi (14:20, 22 February 2024)

Hello, I'm new to Wikipedia and interested in creating a new page. Could you please assist me with the process? I previously attempted to add a page, but it was deleted, and I'm unsure about the specific issues that led to its removal. I would appreciate your guidance on this matter. --Shreyansh Raghuwanshi (talk) 14:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Shreyansh Raghuwanshi. Your article TV Season Spoilers was overtly promotional, and promotional content is not permitted on Wikipedia. Please read the Neutral point of view, which is a core content policy. Also study Your first article. Cullen328 (talk) 17:58, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Pezfishy (18:40, 22 February 2024)

Hello, I am new to editing wikipedia pages and I was wondering if you had any tips or guidelines to edit by as you have edited over 1,000 articles and are a veteran of wikipedia. I would appreciate any help or guidance. Thanks! -Pezfishy Pezfishy (talk) 03:02, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Pezfishy. Welcome to Wikipedia. I suggest that you read Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia. There are plenty of links to more detailed pages. Feel free to ask more specific questions here or at the Teahouse. Cullen328 (talk) 04:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

New account, same behaviour?

You recently blocked user:Transport 2005 for disruptive behaviour. Now a new account user:2005Cars shows up with with exactly the same superfluous edits. I hear a lot of quacking. Am I right? The Banner talk 11:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

@The Banner CU blocked both. Doug Weller talk 12:08, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. The Banner talk 12:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
-Thanks, The Banner and Doug Weller. Cullen328 (talk) 19:14, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Brutalbeast88 (07:44, 26 February 2024)

BMG Welcome to Gboard clipboard, any text you copy will be saved here. --Brutalbeast88 (talk) 07:44, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

•Hello, User:Brutalbeast88. That's an aggressive and controversial username that you have selected. Maybe you can explain your choices, especially the "88" part. Why not pick "87" or "89"? Anyway, I have no idea what Gboard clipboard even means. Am I expected to Google that? Cullen328 (talk) 10:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Hafiz Afzaal Ahmad (14:26, 27 February 2024)

حوالہ کیسے بنا سکتا ہوں --Hafiz Afzaal Ahmad (talk) 14:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Hafiz Afzaal Ahmad. This is the English Wikipedia. Try the Urdu Wikipedia instead. Cullen328 (talk) 18:08, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

February music

story · music · places

Music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda Arendt. Cullen328 (talk) 19:42, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Just wanted to say thanks!

Just wanted to say thanks for jumping into the tea house discussion on art brut vs outsider art. I feel like this topic will most likely need some fleshing out before consensus is built. :) Thanks for your thoughts! Slacker13 (talk) 16:05, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

You are welcome, Slacker13. Cullen328 (talk) 19:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Likely LTA disruption at WP:ANI

There's ongoing disruption on WP:ANI by user that likely gamed their way to autoconfirmed right to get around semi-protection right after recent LTA disruption by non-confirmed user. Likely needs ECP on ANI. Stylez995 (talk) 07:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Stylez995, but ECP at ANI would prevent large numbers of newer good faith editors from defending themselves there. Cullen328 (talk) 07:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Haywaeth018 (23:49, 7 March 2024)

Hello, How do you make a new page? --Haywaeth018 (talk) 23:49, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Haywaeth018. I recommend learning about Wikipedia’s Policies and guidelines, and working on improving existing articles for a while. Then, read and study Your first article. Cullen328 (talk) 00:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Concaclon on Asım Vehbi (15:51, 10 March 2024)

very good --Concaclon (talk) 15:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Concaclon, that is not a question. Do you have one? Cullen328 (talk) 19:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Alfred Yanika (18:17, 10 March 2024)

I want to create an article about a musician, what can i do ? --Alfred Yanika (talk) 18:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Alfred Yanika. Attempting to write an autobiography is strongly discouraged and rarely successful. Please read Your first article. Cullen328 (talk) 19:16, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

  • Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
  • Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
  • Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
  • Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
  • Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
  • Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
  • Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
  • Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
  • Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
  • Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
  • Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
  • Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
  • Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
  • Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
  • Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
  • Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
  • Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

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Personal attacks directed against you on a user talk page

Hi!

Don't ask why I was snooping around the block log, there were no recent updates to the articles I was heavily editing.

Anyway, looks like IAmABigFarter is using strong curse words to 'get their point across', as well as bullying statements on their talk page against you, and presumably every other admin. I almost wonder if that's grounds for a talk page block too?

Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 07:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, ElegantlyClandestine. Useful "snooping" is just fine. Productive editors see something a bit odd, look into it, and address any disruption that they discover. I appreciate you letting me know about this. I have revoked the editor's talk page access, because they should be discussing how to get unblocked rather than throwing a temper tantrum. I glanced at your userpage and noticed that you are considerably younger than I am. Did you notice how boring and predictable and lacking in creativity that string of insults is? I can assure you from personal experience that I heard stupid insults just like that 60 years ago, and they had zero impact on me back then and zero impact now. Thank you, and keep up the good work. If you ever have any questions about editing, please feel free to ask. Cullen328 (talk) 07:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for that - thick skin is absolutely useful in these times. I just don’t understand why some people lack the ability to communicate correctly. And, yeah. It’ll be a while when stuff like that is just going to be nothing for me. So far, *phobic remarks against me do not make me budge. But for other things? I have yet to work on that.
Gosh, now I wish my real grandpa’s still alive… for now, he resonates in you. <3
Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 08:46, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words. Cullen328 (talk) 08:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Where to ask about WP:PROTECT?

Hi. As you're a "mentor", I thought I'd ask... :)
Where's the correct place to ask about WP:PROTECT and related Wikipedia concepts?
Thanks. galenIgh 04:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, .galenIgh. "Ask about" is a bit vague. Wikipedia talk:Protection policy is the place for formal discussions about the policy. You can ask questions at the Teahouse or at the Help desk. Or, you can ask me a more specific question right here. Cullen328 (talk) 04:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointers. It has to do with a combination of ECP, ARBECR, and Talk pages. I found some recent discussion. Will do more reading, but I think WT:ARBCOM is the place. galenIgh 15:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Category

Hi Jim, Hope all's well with you.

I originally asked the following of another admin whom I knew worked on cats, but now I see she's blocked so I deleted my request and am turning to you. My issue is that I wanted to make a schoolteacher category for a particular school so I could put George Mallory in it, but I forgot to put the word School at the end of the category Teachers at Charterhouse a minute or so ago when I created it. As an admin, is that something you could do, i.e. change the name of the category to Teachers at Charterhouse School? Or do I need to go through a complex process of nominating it etc? Years ago, I'm sure one used to be able to do this as a humdrum ordinary editor but that facility seems to have disappeared. Thanks! Ericoides (talk) 10:07, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Ericoides. Nice to hear from you. To be frank, I rarely work with categories except to add them to articles. I suggest that you take this matter to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. Cullen328 (talk) 16:48, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
OK, will do. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Regards, Ericoides (talk) 17:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Bauthier24

Without piling on on his talk page, I don't see why one would ever need such an extension. Even off-Wikipedia. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Well, you see, it's the anti-Semitism. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
I totally agree, Deepfriedokra. The article Triple parentheses makes it clear, but what do I know? I am just a rootless cosmopolitan. Cullen328 (talk) 18:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
I guess I could be an American Cosmopolitan. Or maybe a fellow traveller. Maybe humans will learn to grow beyond labels. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
The more I look at this, the more I am convinced of a few things. First, this person was not ignorant of what they were putting on their computer(s). Secondly, while I am not certain they are a neo-Nazi, I strongly suspect they are some kind of ethno-nationalist. This brief lived addition to their talk page says a lot to me. Third, it is quite obvious that this editor has been around. I have no idea who they were in their previous incarnation(s), but this is not a newbie. And I note they have just vanished. Hmmm...
Courtesy ping Hide on Rosé -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
OMG My bad, apologize for not checking CA for the block :( I will revert my rename. Hide on Rosé (thảo luận | đóng góp | trung ương) 03:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
User got blocked at 16 March, 00:52, then requested rename at 05:45... (time is UTC+7). Hide on Rosé (thảo luận | đóng góp | trung ương) 03:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
@Hide on Rosé No worries. I got played by them too. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:20, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

I have never claimed to be a skilled sockpuppet detective, but I too doubt that this is a newbie. Cullen328 (talk) 04:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Newbie commenting on unblock requests

Hi, sorry to bug you but I can't seem to work out the right thing to do here - a new editor is wandering around leaving very negative comments on unblock requests: Special:Contributions/Al Boyer

It doesn't seem like it belongs on any particular board because it's just so....weird? If it needs to be reported somewhere, any guidance would be appreciated. My chronic pain + meds are making me very slow and I don't know what to do, but it seemed like something I should mention. Thanks for your time and I hope you're having a good day. StartGrammarTime (talk) 09:37, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

@StartGrammarTime (talk page stalker) Reverted and blocked. It might be interesting to see their unblock request! Doug Weller talk 09:55, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, StartGrammarTime. I was asleep when this happened. Cullen328 (talk) 16:22, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks @Doug Weller and Cullen! I would ask for advice for if this happens again but it's such a weird thing to do...(and I hadn't even thought of how interesting their unblock request will be!) StartGrammarTime (talk) 01:52, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Mcadorette (14:02, 20 March 2024)

Hello: I think I was last active here about 11 years ago when I tried an awful attempt at editing my high school's page. Are you still my assigned mentor? If so, I have some questions for you. If not, please point me in the right direction. Thanks, Mcadorette --Mcadorette (talk) 14:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Mcadorette. You can ask me whatever you want about editing Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 15:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Mitsubishi2 (04:00, 21 March 2024)

May i know how to make my Article (EBC Financial Group) to be publish on Wikipedia? Cause this is my first time upload the article. --Mitsubishi2 (talk) 04:00, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Mitsubishi2. Your deleted draft was jam packed full of puffery and promotional language. Promotional editing is forbidden on Wikipedia. Its only two references were to press releases issued by the company. Such overtly self-promotional references have no value on Wikipedia. We require references to multiple reliable sources that are entirely independent of the topic, and that devote significant coverage to the topic. Without furnishing such high quality references, it is not possible to write an acceptable Wikipedia article. Cullen328 (talk) 07:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
@Mitsubishi2: You might want to read the deletion notice I left and follow the embedded links . . . . -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:05, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Blue edits

Hello again!

So I’ve been frequenting an article whose expanded information I’m waiting for to add. Though I’ve noticed something a bit strange - the latest edit at the time (linked here) is coloured blue. This is on Damaged (film), by the way. I wonder what that means? Could it be something deep or is it just a glitch in the Matrix? I’m getting kind of suspicious about that. This also happened to one of my edits.

Thanks! (This was a late addition, whoops!)

We don’t make mistakes, just happy little accidents. - Bob Ross

Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 02:34, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Also, you could call me Nicole (or Nikki, I don't know which you prefer but that option is there). Maybe you should link it like this? Nicole?
Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 04:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, ElegantlyClandestine, known as "Nikki". I have no knowledge, expertise or opinion of almost all websites, other than Wikipedia and my own website. I may be a customer on some websites, but Wikipedia is the only one where I claim a modicum of expertise, and whatever influence that flows from that. Feel free to ask anything within my parameters of knowledge. Cullen328 (talk) 09:22, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Oh, alright. I'm still questioning the blue edits though, but I got a feeling it's just a superfluous tag. Still, I've no slightest idea on that happened. Thanks anyway! Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 09:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
While I may disagree with one of your recent actions (slightly), I am also well aware negative feedback is the norm here, and nobody expresses gratitude for the many helpful and uncontroversial actions Wikipedians do (here, you). Hence, I want you to know that I am grateful for all the mostly thankless admin-and-other activities you do. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Piotrus, that is very kind of you, and I really appreciate it. I can assure you that if the other editor in question chooses to appeal their block, I will evaluate their appeal with an open mind. Cullen328 (talk) 02:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
I also want to say that I do not edit for positive feedback although it is always nice to get. I edit to improve the encyclopedia, and that is its own reward. Good faith, thoughtful feedback from respected editors like you makes me revisit my thinking and decisions, and I try to keep an open mind. The corollary is that negative feedback does not bother me very much. Negative feedback from trolls, vandals and POV pushers just makes me laugh briefly. I do take the occasional threat of violence seriously, though. Cullen328 (talk) 02:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
As someone who had to face all of those - yes, including the latter - let's hope for more of the positive feedback. Nobody edits Wikipedia for it - we would starve to death - but I believe lack of "wikilove" or such is an enduring problem in our community that reduces our retention rate for editors. (I even wrote an academic paper on that few years ago [1]). Anyway, keep up the good job :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
In general for your particular brand of diplomatic straight talk, but specifically for The "deez" remark is an obvious reference to "deez nuts" memes which derive from the lyrics of a 30 year old Dr. Dre gangsta rap song that discusses a woman's facial contact with testicles while performing fellatio. It is an inappropriate allusion to use while interacting with another editor, which is such champion wikivoice I feel it ought to be framed. asilvering (talk) 18:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
By the way, I shared this exchange with a non-wikipedian friend as an example of wikipedia's "polite but direct" communication ideals, and she wants to know how you'd explain that glomping is unacceptable behaviour, if you'll indulge us. -- asilvering (talk) 18:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Asilvering, frankly, I had never heard the word "glomping" but was immediately reminded of "glamping", which is a portmanteau of "glamorous camping". It refers to people who willingly spend $300.00 per night to sleep in a fancy yurt or tipi. So, Google informed me that "glomping" is a term for sudden violent hugging. Well, violence is bad. Then, I checked Urban Dictionary which is not a reliable source but is often informative on such matters. I know almost nothing about anime and manga. There is a secondary definition of Living in an RV while on someone else’s property, using their space and/or resources for free. (A hybrid of ‘glamping’ and ‘glomming’.) So, the circle has closed and our vocabulary lesson is complete. "Hybrid" in this context appears to be a synonym of "portmanteau". Cullen328 (talk) 19:03, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
I shall never again read the word "glomping" without associating it with the modern version of a party at Le hameau de la Reine. Though, with luck, I will never again read the word "glomping". -- asilvering (talk) 19:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

March music

story · music · places

in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Vacation pics uploaded, at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Some days later, a calf in the mist and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Persistent editor on Damsel (2024 film)

Hello again!

Mike and I were editing on the same article as shown on the topic title - a film, to simplify things. Then there’s this user who thinks their ‘special review’ should stay there because it’s ‘reputable’. To me and Mike? It wasn’t. It was a Wix website, are they kidding us for this?

If there’s anything me or Mike can do, tell either of us either on my talk page or his talk page. But if it’s something you should do, please go ahead. Thanks again!

I apologise in advance if my tone seems to be a bit rushing or a bit demanding. Perhaps it’s just me being a bit too full of myself too.

Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 14:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, ElegantlyClandestine. The editor in question seems to be promoting their own website and I have warned them to stop. Cullen328 (talk) 18:59, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! I was asleep when it all went down, but I’m glad you responded. Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 00:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:O Quarto Cristal

Not seeing the promo. Looks like a poem in Portuguese. Best -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I used the wrong tag, Deepfriedokra. I changed it. Cullen328 (talk) 22:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Are you OK? It's not in user space. . . . . . -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Regrets, Deepfriedokra. I am preparing for a lengthy road trip to view the April 8 total eclipse of the sun, and am a bit distracted. I will not tag any other material for deletion unless I am confident that my tag is accurate. Cullen328 (talk) 16:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Just so you are OK. I was worried. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

What to do about IP that keeps adding Islamic honourifics

Hi, I'm QwertyForest! I have noticed that 80.5.35.232 has been repeatedly adding Islamic honourifics to the article Judgement Day in Islam. Their edits have been reverted a total of 4 times in the space of a hour, twice by me, and they have 3 warnings on their talk page, yet they have added them in again. Considering the situation, is dispute resolution or AN/I more appropriate? QwertyForest (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I happened to see this complaint, and have blocked the IP editor 31 hours for edit warring. EdJohnston (talk) 16:12, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, EdJohnston. Cullen328 (talk) 17:22, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I completely agree...

...with everything you said here. I become bored with the April Fool's Day jokes here, like, 15 years ago. It's the same unfunny nonsense every year. Should have been phased out or banned years ago.

Also agree about Wikipe-tan. By coincidence, a few days ago something reminded me about how that character was completely misogynistic garbage and I'm glad at least one other person feels similarly. Acalamari 10:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

It is nice to know that at least one other editor agrees, Acalamari. Thanks. Cullen328 (talk) 15:55, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Some trolls

"I am concerned about the negative behavior of some trolls." You made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that. :) --Yamla (talk) 11:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Yamla, WP:IAR allows me to make an occasional comment even after being instructed that No further edits should be made to this discussion. Glad you laughed. Cullen328 (talk) 16:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Remember that Wix site self-promoter?

He’s back with a vengeance.

To put things short, he’s been warned twice (last I remember he is straight to level three on two separate infractions. Now, it looks like his ego caught up to him, stating that his, quote ‘awful website’ has ‘five thousand readers,’ more so than the reviewers we ‘think are more revered and valuable.’ And then that self-promoter goes to attack Mike by calling him ‘elitist,’ which is funny because you were the one who warned him first, and must have ignored it. And then that editor stated that Mike had ‘the deciding point of view?’ Haha!

You’ll see below that one-sided circus (referring to the self-promoter) that I have my own response to the situation. Dare I say that it won’t end well for that editor?

In this crazy world, I do… I just want [in this case], an end to this…

Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 22:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, ElegantlyClandestine. How it ended is that I indefinitely blocked Jgdh71. Story over. Thanks for keeping me informed. Cullen328 (talk) 03:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Oh my. Thank you! You’ve definitely delivered on your username, cull[ing] the editing privileges of that editor.
I can sleep in peace to this album…
Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 06:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Rizen10 (20:25, 4 April 2024)

Чего? Какой наставник блять --Rizen10 (talk) 20:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Woah, Jim. I’ll be the first to say they do not like you. (Yes, I understood the last word, it’s a common curse with Gen Zs in case they don’t want to say the real thing in English. The nerve of some people…)
Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 22:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Ignore that comment, ElegantlyClandestine. Cullen328 (talk) 00:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Whoop – that didn't ping. Don't worry, I still check various talk pages anyway. Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 11:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Been thinking

of changing my username to CeruleanTenkianShuriken. I think it would garner more respect. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:04, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

You can, of course, do whatever you want, within reason, the Wikipedia editor currently known as Deepfriedokra. But I would have a really hard time remembering that one. Cullen328 (talk) 08:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
kmmmmm -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:11, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Of course, Deepfriedokra, my phone, which has a better memory than I do, would rapidly learn the new spelling. Cullen328 (talk) 08:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Maybe DeepCeruleanShuriken. People might not get the Neal Asher reference. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
You know, I declined that draft with the intent of education. The next reviewer rejected it. But before all that, it was (and is) tagged for WP:G11. I hate to dash peoples dreams, but they are not getting the message. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Eclipse

I saw the note your profile about your roadtrip and just wanted to wish you a Happy Eclipse! Polyamorph (talk) 07:23, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Polyamorph, it was a delightful experience in every way, and thank you for asking. I cannot provide more details, because a block evading editor is trolling me for some reason about my family eclipse viewing trip. Cullen328 (talk) 05:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
That can't be good. I'm sure they've got a bone to pick, but what do I know? Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 08:13, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Recent responses

Fwiw, appreciate the quality of your responses to the recently blocked editor with health concerns. I've no idea if their issues are genuine and/or if any of the advice will actually help, but I felt your replies were a good mix of empathy and redirection toward more productive activities. So: as another random editor, thanks for the good work. -- Euryalus (talk) 22:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait, is it someone I know, Euryalus? I feel like it's an editor I've had some form of a clash with over self-promotion. Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 00:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Don't know, sorry. -- Euryalus (talk) 02:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Peek this. Maybe it’ll have some similarities? Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 02:43, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, it's not that person. :) -- Euryalus (talk) 02:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Euryalus, thank you very much. I happen to have a son with mental health issues and have spent decades trying to do my best to help him. ElegantlyClandestine, please do not comment on controversial matters that you do not understand. Please make a comment only when you are reasonably sure that it will be helpful. Because I am traveling, and am on the 10th day of a 17 day trip, my Wikipedia time is limited. Cullen328 (talk) 03:16, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Oh. Whoops. Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 04:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

April music

story · music · places

I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the statue (look up places)? - I was undecided so show three versions ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Today I see Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:48, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

WhereverWeAreNow

The gift that just keeps on giving. 😢 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

"There's nothing I can do
A total eclipse of the heart" --Bonnie Tyler -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Deepfriedokra, "I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky, I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black". Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. Cullen328 (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from OneNationWiki (15:39, 13 April 2024)

How do I make this page public? And to stop saying my user at the top?

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:OneNationWiki --OneNationWiki (talk) 15:39, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Use the WP:AFC process. I drop a welcome on your talk. (WP:user pages are not for article creation.) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
OneNationWiki, self-promotion is forbidden on Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 16:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

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Meh

WhereverWeAreNow is at UTRS appeal #87530. I told them to describe what constructive edits. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, I may be a "mean old man" as John Lennon sang in Mean Mister Mustard 55 years ago, but that appeal strikes me as neither sincere nor convincing, and not at all self-reflective. In the spirit of full disclosure, let me inform you that I am a big mustard fan and enjoy many varieties. Cullen328 (talk) 07:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
You and me both. I already declined the one, so meh 2.0. ahhhhh, look at all the lonely people -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Please check into things before commenting was received as dismissive

Please check into things before commenting from [2] was received as dismissive.

From my point of view, I was commenting on bullying in that thread, and to be told that I should not comment over a technicality was received as dismissive. Are there arbiters of comments on ANI?

ANI threads are not private, and I have every right to share my concern over unhealthy behavior. If one wants to be constructive , they can acknowledge the point being made. Tonymetz 💬 00:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Tonymetz, you and I see the Chris troutman matter differently, and I am not going to try to persuade you to accept my view of troutman. As for your specific question Are there arbiters of comments on ANI?, that would be consensus of editors, action by administrators, and intervention by the Arbitration Committee. Let me know if you have any other questions. Cullen328 (talk) 00:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
I regret that I hurt your feelings. That was not at all my intention. Cullen328 (talk) 00:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
thanks for hearing me out. Tonymetz 💬 01:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Tonymetz, you are welcome, and I am grateful that we can discuss this disagreement respectfully. I have paid attention to what you have said. Cullen328 (talk) 01:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
fwiw i didn't disagree with you on the outcome of the ANI. Tonymetz 💬 18:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Question

An editor is making the claim an "interim consensus" has been reached in a discussion. I have never heard of an "interim consensus", I think I know the answer, but is this just made up? or have I missed something?

Context [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]

Hope you're well,  // Timothy :: talk  07:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, TimothyBlue. Good to hear from you. The term "interim consensus" is new to me, but I think I may have heard "working consensus" a few times. My view is that if a convincing consensus recognized by all experienced good faith editors has not been established, then weaker "quasi-consensus" arguments should carry very little weight. I see that the editor making that argument is blocked. Do you need any help from me at this time? Cullen328 (talk) 07:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
As for being well, I am slowly recovering from some unpleasant respiratory virus or "bug" that is not COVID-19 but makes me want to stay in bed feeling sorry for myself. No big deal, and many people are wrestling with far worse health issues. Cullen328 (talk) 07:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
I hope you've had a chance to enjoy some wildflowers, the hills north of LA are beautiful.  // Timothy :: talk  07:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
TimothyBlue, I actually saw extensive fields of bluebonnets for the first time in Texas during my 17 day road trip to Dallas to observe the total eclipse of the sun on April 8. Upon returning to Northern California, I started seeing the Golden Poppies that are the official floral symbol of my home state. I saw some great beauty in Southern California in the first couple of days of my trip, especially the dramatic snow-capped mountains near San Bernardino. Really spectacular scenery heading south to that city. Cullen328 (talk) 08:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Martin Olav Sabo

The Mpls downtown post office a 1930s art deco building has been renamed in his honor, would like to add this info to Honorable Sabo’s info MplsProud (talk) 13:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, MplsProud. This is usually done by adding a "Legacy" section. You will also need to add a reference to a reliable source that verifies the renaming. Cullen328 (talk) 17:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Shall we name OJ as the killer of Goldman and Brown?

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:O._J._Simpson#How_should_we_treat_Simpson's_%E2%80%9Cculpability%E2%80%9D_in_the_murders;_neutral_or_adamant?

I have raised the discussion as to whether how we should reflect's Simpson's culpability for the "crime of the century", much like LHO is named "guilty". Discussions open here. 92.17.198.220 (talk) 21:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC) The talk section is "How should we treat Simpson's “culpability” in the murders; neutral or adamant?" 92.17.198.220 (talk) 21:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) We post sourced information, he wasn't convicted, you want to invent a resolution? - FlightTime (open channel) 21:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
I support Muboshgu's formulation, which is that he was found not guilty in a criminal trial and liable in a civil trial. The situation is not analogous to Oswald, who was killed long before he could be tried, much like John Wilkes Booth. Cullen328 (talk) 21:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
As for the "crime of the century", that would be the Holocaust, in my view. Cullen328 (talk) 21:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Problmeista edits

In future interventions, please be considerate that new editors may not be familiar with all policy and jargon, and be sure to avoid a hostile approach. I will assume you did not intend this, but your messages expressed accusations of wrongdoing and seemed very hostile. You were I the right, just kindly be sensitive to avoid future problems. 24.38.179.20 (talk) 04:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Violating policy is wrongdoing, even if unintentional, and in this case, you violated both the Neutral point of view policy and the policy against Edit warring. In the future, comply with policies and guidelines, do not dig in your heels when challenged and when policies are explained to you, and all will be well. Cullen328 (talk) 05:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
I have acknowledged that I made a mistake in posting my contributions and violated the site standards. I am asking you to reconsider your approach to assumption of good faith and civility, and to be more thoughtful in your explanations. I see that Wikipedia guidelines instruct standards of engagement and behavior as well. I am not criticizing your judgement, just want to politely ask that you avoid unintentionally discouraging new editors. 24.38.179.20 (talk) 05:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
IP editor, I said absolutely nothing to discourage you from editing in any way. If I didn't want you to edit, I could have blocked you, but I did not block you because I decided to give you a chance. I simply explained the policy issues in clear, neutral prose. I am an adminstrator and my role is to put a stop to policy violations. I said nothing unfriendly to you unless you consider explanations of policy inherently unfriendly. I suggest you move on to improving the encyclopedia in accordance with policies and guidelines, instead of relitigating this minor incident. Cullen328 (talk) 05:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
I understand your position and do not mean to suggest you have been deliberately unfriendly, I see you were acting to uphold policy. I also don't mean any attempt to embarrass or assert righteousness here. I was wrong. If there's some other more appropriate venue to communicate this, I apologize for not being aware. However, I would ask you to be careful in your language to avoid casting aspersions of malicious, vandalistic intent. Specifically, the language "Willingly violating" I will tell you that, in context, your contributions were received as a snub, as though only certain people are allowed to edit this project. Again, you may refer to the talk page on "Problemista" to see an example of a clear and patient example of explanation by user Erik. I would hope and assume you would prefer to encourage new editors in that way rather than insist on violations. If you are busy and focused on a patrol task, please consider asking other editors to explain, as some seem happy to do so. In short, your explanations may be more editorialized and less clear than you mean them to be. I do not wish to carry this further, will gladly remove the message if this page not is not accordant with conventions, but sincerely ask that you carefully consider the reception of your communications. 24.38.179.20 (talk) 06:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
IP editor, I communicated with you regarding policy clearly and unambiguously without any hostility or negativity. That you continue to fixate on this incident and try to find fault with my input reflects far more negatively on you than it does on me. Earlier, I suggested that you move on to improving the encyclopedia in accordance with policies and guidelines. You did not heed my suggestion, and are continuing with this unnecessary axe grinding. So, now I must insist that you move on, and stop pestering me. I hope that is clear. Please stop posting on my user talk page. I have the right to make that request although I regret doing so. Cullen328 (talk) 07:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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