User talk:Crisco 1492/Archive 45

Archive 40

←

Archive 43

Archive 44

Archive 45

Archive 46

Archive 47

→

Archive 50

Rentjong Atjeh

Dimohon untuk memberikan suara di sini. Untuk di Wikipedia bahasa Inggris, mengapa artikel Rentjong Atjeh belum diusulkan sebagai AB? Padahal artikelnya bagus 'lho... Hanamanteo (talk) 06:40, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Haa... lah... Idemu gila, bung Hanam. Wong artikelnya saja (terlalu) pendek, masa mau dicalonkan sbagai AP? yg bner aja? klo id:De Stem des Bloeds dan Djaoeh Dimata sy masih stuju, tapi klo klo Rentjong Atjeh? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 06:31, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

• Kalau Rentjong Atjeh saya belum mencari data di arsip Belanda, jadi belum bisa dikatakan lengkap. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Adi, tidaklah gila saya mengusulkan artikel Rentjong Atjeh menjadi AP. Sudah memenuhi syarat-syarat AP. Kecuali jika tidak memenuhi syarat-syarat AP, mungkin tak apa jika anda bilang saya gila... Hanamanteo (talk) 12:29, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Lagipula, jika cukup rujukan, maka sudah siap untuk diusulkan... Lain kali, jangan asal ucap! Hanamanteo (talk) 12:30, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Memang sih sudah cukup ref.nya tapi, bitanya itu terlalu pendek (7.900 bita), artikelnya. Lagipula, om Woodrich juga bilang klo sumber2 berbahasa Belanda masih kurang. Jgn pula kita (terlalu) mudah utk terpesona akan artikel2 yg ditulis dgn tdk menyalahi peraturan. Artikelnya itu kurang panjang (7.900 bita); De Stem des Bloeds (12.000 bita), Allah jang Palsoe (18.000 bita), dan Djaoeh Dimata (19.000 bita) saja lebih panjang artikelnya. Jgn-lah terlalu sering utk memudahkan sesuatu dlm Wikipedia! Itu namanya mempermainkan sistem. Adalah "dosa" dlm Wikipedia, utk mencari celah yg (katanya) utk kebaikan, eh.... tahunya utk sesuka-hati perutnya. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 03:56, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Coba lihat id:Taman Nasional Gunung Halimun Salak dan id:Nama orang Minangkabau. Artikel itu pendek, namun lengkap. Lagipula ada perbedaan antara "Artikel pendek namun lengkap" dengan "Artikel panjang namun kurang lengkap". Lain kali, jangan cuma pikirkan isinya yang anda anggap pendek itu, pikirkan juga rujukannya, gambarnya, lagipula kata-katanya sudah dimengeri karena yang menulisnya sendiri ialah Farras... Hanamanteo (talk) 04:45, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Itu jelas beda zaman. Taman Nasional Gunung Halimun itu dijadikan AP pada masa2 awal Wikipedia (antara 2006-2008), jadi masih pas dgn keadaan/standar yg ditetapkan oleh Wikipedia. Klo Nama orang Minangkabu itu jelas kentara perbedaannya itu, 13.000 bita. Beritahukan/kasi lihat kpd sy, adakan artikel en.wp yg panjangnya hanyalah 8.000 bita saja! --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 05:27, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Apakah karna Farras & Woodrich-lah yg mengusahakan artikel sejarah ini, anda lantas mati-matian membela Rentjong Atjeh jadi AP? Tdk! Tdk bener klo dijadikan AP! Nah, coba anda nilai artikel ini, Astaman dan Noesa Penida. Sdh pantas belum sbagai AP? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 05:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Aduh, mengapa 'ya orang ini suka mempermasalahkan orang yang mengusulkan suatu AP? Saya lihat, anda suka memperhatikan panjang suatu AP, padahal, panjang dan pendek suatu artikel bukan termasuk kriteria AP, yang ada, lengkap. Lagipula, sumber dari Belanda yang disebutkan Tn. Woodrich itu sebenarnya bukanlah keharusan, cuma saran saja. Coba anda berpikir untuk tidak menghalang-halangi seseorang tanpa alasan yang jelas. Anda 'kan editor, jadi gunakan jabatan tersebut dengan bijak, jangan suka berbuat kurang bijak... Hanamanteo (talk) 15:51, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Saya tidak akan mengusulkan 2 artikel yang disebut anda karena artikel itu masih belum memenuhi kriteria AP. Ingat, asumsikan niat baik! Hanamanteo (talk) 15:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Sy rasa bukan begitu masalahnya. Selain pendek, artikel pilihan juga harus memasukkan pendapat yg umum/mayoritas (yg masyhur) dan minoritas. Nah, artikel Rentjong Atjeh dlm hal ini juga hanya memuat pendapat dari sisi org Indonesia saja. Nah, bagaimana sumber dari org Belanda? dari De Sumatra Post, Java Bode, bagaimana pula dgn De Indisch Courant atw Soerabaijasch Handelsblad? Jadi, slain pendek, sumber daripada minoritas itu sendiri -yakni sumber berbahasa Belanda- saja belum dicantumkan. Sy mengutip kata om Woodrich, "Kalau Rentjong Atjeh saya belum mencari data di arsip Belanda, jadi belum bisa dikatakan lengkap". Oleh sebab itu, jgn melupakan apa kata "tuan rumah" (yaitu om Chris Woodrich itu sendiri) sbg. pemilik user talk. Yg kedua, anda memanfaatkan celah dlm kriteria AP, yakni "pendek tapi lengkap atw panjang tapi kurang lengkap." Inikan namanya mempermainkan sistem, yaitu dgn jalan itulah artikel2 yg lengkap, memenuhi syarat artikel dlm Wikipedia, yg dibuat oleh org terkenal pula, anda jadikan sebagai AP. Itukan namanya mempermainkan sistem. Sy sdh beritahu sjak awal: dosa mempermain sistem Wikipedia itu! --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 06:39, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Sudahlah, jangan berkelahi. Setiap orang punya hak untuk mengusulkan AP/AB,'kan? Lagipula, sumber dari Belanda itu saran dari Tn. Woodrich. Dalam syarat-syarat AP pun, tak ada poin yang menyebutkan bahwa harus ada sumber dari luar negeri, yang benar harus ada rujukan yang terpercaya, tak pandang ia dari dalam/luar negeri. Yang anda sebut mempermainkan sumber itu tidak tepat, karena itu merupakan tuduhan yang tidak berdasar. Mempermainkan sistem Wikipedia itu, contohnya vandalisme di Wikipedia dan jangan pula anda bilang pengusulan ini merupakan vandalisme. Saya sudah mempertimbangkannya dengan baik. Lagipula, tak mungkinlah bagi saya untuk mengusulkan artikel id:Mega Mendoeng karena kurang rujukan. Hanamanteo (talk) 10:25, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Menurut kriteria, AP harus punya pendapat mayoritas dan mengetengahkan pula pendapat minoritas. Yg terakhir, jgn-lah skali2 anda undang sy utk memilih artikel Rentjong Atjeh. Pendapat sy sdh clear? Klo sdh, sy tinggalkan dan takkan sy bicarakan lagi masalah ini ibarat ksatria yg masih punya harga diri. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 12:02, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of History of Chincoteague, Virginia

Hello! Your submission of History of Chincoteague, Virginia at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. I'm never sure whether I should post queries on the DYK nominator's page or the main contributors but hopefully you won't shout too loudly at me if I'm making a silly mistake on this and just not seeing it? It's a fab article and I don't understand why it's languished without being DYK reviewed for so long. SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:26, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Dharma Wiratama Museum

Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

22 minutes and no queue to promote

I managed to throw together one full prep and two mostly full ones, but that won't do any good if no admin shows up to get the first one into a queue. If you're around and can do it, we won't get off schedule. Unfortunately, it's past my bedtime, so I can't stay around to see what happens... I realize you're probably not at the computer at the moment, but just in case... BlueMoonset (talk) 07:37, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

• Got one, not sure if it's late or not. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

• It's a little late, but thanks for saving us from a lot late! (You did give me a bit of a scare there with prep 3, though, before you reverted.) And now it's really past my bedtime; I had to do some cleanup after Nikkimaria discovered not one but two problematic hooks in prep 2... BlueMoonset (talk) 08:36, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

• Yeah... I was rereading your message, then went... "partially built? oh no..." — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:42, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

• (I'm assuming that the bot will pick up queue 6 at 08:40 UTC; if it doesn't, we may have a bigger problem...) BlueMoonset (talk) 08:39, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

• I protected the image, so it shouldn't be screaming at us. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:42, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

References of Javanese script

Hi Crisco.

Saya baru saja melengkapi rujukan dalam artikel Javanese script. Apakah semuanya sudah ter-cover dan cukup untuk meningkatkan kualitas artikel? Alteaven (talk) 03:34, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

• Untuk B seperti sudah cukup. Mohon rujukannya diformatting ya. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:36, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
• Diformat bagaimana? Alteaven (talk) 04:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

• Misalnya http://alteaven.deviantart.com/art/Aturra-Java-365645184 perlu penerbit, situs, kapan diakses, dsb. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:20, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Picture cropping

Two of my DYK nominations have a picture that is overly long or broad, Jahrhundertring and Wilfred Byng Kenrick. As you know, the two editors whom I would ask to crop are not available. Can you do it? Or tell me how to learn to do it myself? In both cases, the cropped version should not replace the original. The former could be cropped mostly at the top, for the other I suggest a detail from the center. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:03, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I have a Windows operating system and Firefox as the browser, and this is what I do.

1. Click on the image to open it.
2. Right-click and choose "save image as".
3. Save the image on your computer with an appropriate file name (I tend to keep the original file name and add "crop" to the end e.g. "Wagner.jpg" becomes "Wagner crop.jpg"
4. Find and open the picture on your computer, and open it (I have Windows Live Photo Gallery, but other software will be much the same)
5. Find the "crop" tool, and play around with this until you have got rid of the bits you don't want. Then save it.
6. Where the image page for the uncropped image says "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. Information from its description page there is shown below.", click on the words "description page" to go to Commons.
7. Click on "edit" at the top of the page, and copy everything
8. At Commons, in the toolbar on the left hand side, find "upload file" (under participation) and open this in a new tab or window for ease, then click "Back to the old form" (at the top), then "use the basic upload form" (at the bottom), and you end up here
9. Click "Browse" and find your file e.g. "Wagner crop.jpg"
10. In the summary box, replace everything that's there already with the material you have copied from the original file (description, licence, categories etc). Adjust the description as necessary
11. Add a note to say that the file has been cropped from [[:File:Wagner.jpg]] (don't forget the ":" before the word "File"
12. Click on "upload file" and it should be uploaded
13. Enjoy!

Crisco may have some better ideas but that's the general approach, I hope... If you're cropping to show one particular person from a group, then you may want to think of a better filename than "X crop.jpg" and you may need to find one or two more appropriate categories, but the upload's the main thing. Bencherlite^Talk 19:23, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, will try, but not now, - still on vacation, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Bencher. That's pretty much all I do when cropping, unless I'm also trying to clean the background at the same time (and that takes a bit more work). I'll see if I can help here Gerda. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:26, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thank you both! Now I have a new situation to solve: someone else cropped the image for Jahrhundertring and replaced the original. I would like to have both, one for stamp size, one for articles, namely Patrice Chéreau who is on the Main page now. I would prefer the original name for the cropped version because "File:Gwyneth Chéreau.jpg" seems also cropped :) (short for Gwyneth Jones in staging of Wagner's Ring Cycle by Patrice Chéreau) - The other might be File:Centenary Ring.jpg or what you think is good. Ideas welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:30, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

ps: the other article went to prep without the picture, - I will follow the recipe above some other day, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

• If the image is not on the MP yet or protected, I'd download the crop, revert the upload, and upload separately at Commons. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:31, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

• I don't know what you mean, the image was on the MP and is archived, also in my memories (and the DYK statistic), - what you suggest sounds good anyway, I will take care of the articles when you tell me what you did, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:16, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Fractional currency FLC

Hi Crisco 1492- I believe I've addressed your comments. Thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 21:36, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

• When possible could you have another quick look. I had not explained something adequately: shinplasters (as an alternate word for fractional currency) was issued by the federal government (the subject of this list), and also by local merchants and municipalities (i.e., script). I have clarified that the laws against shinplasters was leveled against script, not federally-issued fractional currency. Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 23:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

• I got that after looking at the Shinplaster article, but this needs to be clear for people too lazy to click as well. I will check your additions when I get home from work. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:12, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

• Many thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 23:24, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: Frank's Cock

This is a note to let the main editors of Frank's Cock know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on December 1, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask Bencherlite (talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 1, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Frank's Cock is a 1993 Canadian short film written and directed by Mike Hoolboom (pictured). The eight-minute production stars Callum Keith Rennie as an unnamed narrator who discusses his relationship with his partner, Frank. The two met while the narrator was a teenager and spent nearly ten years together. Frank has since been diagnosed with AIDS, and the narrator fears his lover's death. The story was based on the experience of one of Hoolboom's friends at People With AIDS, which Hoolboom adapted after receiving a commission to create a short film about breaking up. Shot on a low budget, the work is shown in a split-screen format with interspersed scenes from popular culture, gay pornography, and human creation; this format is meant to symbolise the "fragmentation of the body" experienced by AIDS sufferers. Produced by Alex Mackenzie, Frank's Cock was critically acclaimed and won several awards, including the NFB–John Spotton Award for best Canadian short film at the 1994 Toronto International Film Festival. The script has been republished several times and has inspired a short on LGBT issues in Canada's native community. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

• I can't wait. Preparing popcorn (gotta go shopping, after all). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:11, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

And another DYK candidate

Franklin Peale. Still needs work and images but I have it in mainspace. I'd suggest the blurb be about his being sent to Europe for two years. Long overdue for an article, and there was one very briefly but it was deleted.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:24, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

• At Template:Did you know nominations/Franklin Peale. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:27, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for History of Chincoteague, Virginia

The DYK project (nominate) 09:34, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

61st Oscars (1989)

Hi there.

I was wondering if you will be could proofread 61st Academy Awards regarding featured list candidacy since you have done several film awards lists. I understand you may be busy, but I just want some feedback on grammatical errors or contents and I would be grateful for the extra help. I also pledged that this will be the final Oscar ceremony list that I hope to promote for 2013 (I resume college this January so I'm not sure if I have time to keep up with further nominations until I know what happens). Thanks.

BTW: Thank you for promoting the 1996 Oscars. Very grateful.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 16:52, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

• As I would be wearing my delegate's cap while reviewing, any review from me will likely wait until promotion is imminent. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:28, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

• That's fine with me. I already got some more feedback from colleagues already. I think the nomination is going strong, so far. I'm assuming good faith that you're helping with the process.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 08:52, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

KTH

I will get to [Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of works by Kwee Tek Hoay/archive1 this] shortly! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 22:36, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! Though I don't think you should be supporting unless we want Giants/Hahc to close the nom. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:37, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Amir Hamzah

Hello Crisco. Terima kasih kepada anda dan penyunting-penyunting lain yang menulis artikel. Saya sedang menterjemahkannya ke dalam bahasa Melayu dan kelihatan terjemahan saya sedang dialihkan ke dalam bahasa Indonesia. Harap-harap artikel BM dapat dijadikan rencana pilihan ms-wiki. Terima kasih. Algazel (talk) 01:02, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

• Semoga... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:58, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Ruma Maida

Saran, bagaimana kalau artikel Ruma Maida ditayangkan bulan Desember 2013? Soalnya, belum pernah ditayangkan. Padahal, artikel itu sudah menjadi AP sekitar 1 tahun lalu. Hanamanteo (talk) 04:14, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

• Saya sudah mengajukan film lain untuk bulan tersebut. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:41, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Apakah film Frank's Cock? Saya juga ingin bertanya, film Frank's Cock itu film apaan, sih? Hanamanteo (talk) 10:21, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

• Coba baca artikelnya. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:31, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Sudah saya baca. Temanya mengenai AIDS, namun 'kok, temanya ada kaitan dengan LGBT? Hanamanteo (talk) 00:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

• Emang kenapa? Pada tahun2 itu banyak orang percaya bahwa AIDS hanya dapat menginfeksi orang homoseksual. Lagi pula, dalam budaya Barat (apalagi yang avant-gard) tidak ada masalah membahas sexualitas (baik yang heteroseksual maupun homoseksual) secara eksplisit dalam film yang dituju kepada penonton dewasa. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:06, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Begitu 'ya. Hanamanteo (talk) 07:41, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Miss Riboet's Orion

The DYK project (nominate) 06:09, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

61st Academy Awards

Hi, I fixed everything you mentioned for Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/61st Academy Awards/archive1. Thanks.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 01:48, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

• Yep, I've watchlisted (and replied). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:52, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Karađorđe (film)

Crisco, what would you recommend for this nom, which had extensive close paraphrasing issues. I pinged Yoninah, who reviewed it, and got a reply on my talk page that when the editor had made a couple of minor edits that didn't really address the close paraphrasing, Yoninah took care of it for the English sources, but can't deal with the Serbo-Croatian sources where—it seems likely—further close paraphrasing exists. Yoninah doesn't feel comfortable approving an article under these circumstances, which is very understandable.

If you could either take a look at the article yourself or make a suggestion about the best way to determine an outcome, that would be great. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:51, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

• Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

61st Oscars

Hi, is there anything else I need to resolve?

--Birdienest81 (talk) 05:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 06 November 2013

• News and notes: Alleged "outing" of editor's personal information leads to Wikipedia ban

• Traffic report: Danse Macabre

• Featured content: Five years of work leads to 63-article featured topic

• WikiProject report: WikiProject Accessibility

• Arbitration report: Ebionites 3 case closed

• Discussion report: Sockpuppet investigations, VisualEditor, Wikidata's birthday, and more

• Read this Signpost in full
• Single-page
• Unsubscribe
• EdwardsBot (talk) 06:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Lily van Java dan Amir Hamzah

Dimohon untuk memberikan suara di sini dan di sini. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 07:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Buah Rindu

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Buah Rindu you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tim riley -- Tim riley (talk) 11:25, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

(Bloody bot! "Hi there", forsooth!) I'll be cutting the ceremonial GA tape for this article, but have left a handful of wholly optional suggestions you may care to consider before I do the honours. – Tim riley (talk) 12:09, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

• LOL. Could be worse. Could be "wuzzup". Have replied. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:11, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Buah Rindu

The article Buah Rindu you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Buah Rindu for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tim riley -- Tim riley (talk) 12:26, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congrats on been elected elegate! I knew that you would of made a great assitant director! You deserved this promotion! I am very so happy for you! Congrats again, I hope you will have a wonderful ride as a new delegate!  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 12:53, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Row of taxis at the International Commerce Centre, Kowloon, Hong Kong

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Kowloon Waterfront, Hong Kong, 2013-08-09, DD 05.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello, just wanted to thank you for nominating this picture. I am glad you liked it so much. All the best, Poco² 17:25, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

• Don't mention it. I was actually in HK around this time for Wikimania. Shame I didn't see you there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:32, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Roesia si Pengkor

The DYK project (nominate) 00:18, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Njai Dasima (1932 film)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Njai Dasima (1932 film) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period.

Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dwaipayanc -- Dwaipayanc (talk) 17:46, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Blurred Lines

Since you were the admin that block Blurred Lines for being a sockpuppet, this discussion at Commons may be of interest to you. Beerest355 Talk 22:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

• I agree with Trijnstel that the user is quacking really loudly. Consecutive editing periods, similar topics (popular culture, particularly TV), and a penchant for blanking his talk page whenever there's something he doesn't like. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Ajah Berdosa

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

User:189.62.144.40

Hello again. Long time, no write.

I'm writing to you again due to a problem user. Can you block 189.62.144.40 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)? Based on the edits and MO, this user on this address is most probably the same user as the one on 189.102.111.66 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)—changing dates and other info without any verifiable source and putting the title of the article on the edit summary. Please action this ASAP. I'm seeing that he's editing with some regularity now (at least once a day since last Saturday). - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 02:31, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• He's not active right now. If he comes back let me know (I see you just gave the warning yesterday). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:35, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, but note the time of that warning (2:34 am HK time; 1:34 am WIB) compared to the time of his last edit (4:35 pm HK time; 3:35 pm WIB). It seems that again, he ignored the warnings. Furthermore, I may not catch him in the act since this week, my work shift is in the afternoon. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 02:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• I will try to keep an eye on it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:51, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

There's still the chance I might ring you up earlier, either in the late afternoon or evening. It's Veterans Day yesterday, and since my work's clients are in the States, I do expect to stay at home today since there might be nothing to work on. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 03:00, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Alright, no worries. I'll be home most of the day (darn masters thesis!) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:06, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• He's back, blocked, and reverted. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/BBC First World War centenary season

Crisco, does this run afoul of WP:DYKSG#D7, on the "unexpanded headers" point? It's an article on BBC programs for the centenary of WWI, and many of the programs are named, but without explanation of what they are. I was wondering whether this could be considered complete enough for a new article, or if it isn't. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:01, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Ugh. Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:40, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks. I appreciate it. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Don't mention it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:08, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for inspiring a new user.

Just want to mention that you've inspired me with contributions directly and indirectly to the Women in Indonesia page, and Lontar Foundation page. I am also Canadian and have just begun on three fabulous languages of the Wiki. Cheerpoy (talk) 21:49, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for letting me know! I hope that you find this place an interesting one... it's certainly gotten me to dig a little deeper in my field. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:12, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Joshua Tree National Park

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Joshua Tree National Park 2013.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for nominating my work. Nice that the nomination has been successful. --Tuxyso (talk) 08:08, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

• Always glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Beata Beatrix

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Dante Gabriel Rossetti - Beata Beatrix, 1864-1870.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:50, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

sambisari

hey did you see any londo live in the houses on the approach road (like say on the east side of the road 100 metres south of the entrance..) ?? satusuro 15:49, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

• I knew there'd be a comment from you. I took the approach road from the north (don't know if that was open 20 years ago, still quite narrow... we never went through Jl. Solo). Didn't see any foreigners outside the temple complex. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/No Love Allowed

Crisco, I was wondering if you could do a review of this one. I had to withdraw after losing patience with Tomica, and BaldyBill engendered a hostile response—though I do wonder at the criticism of the Vibe source, since the Wikipedia article on Vibe (magazine) seems to give it reasonable bona fides, at least for a review under their auspices, though I don't know their online standards. (Unfortunately, online typo correction seems to be a rare thing, even at normally reliable sources.) Thanks for considering it. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• I've generally treated Vibe as reasonably reliable, particularly for reviews. It is a fairly major publication in its field. Yes, online typos rarely get fixed... digital world possibilities with a print-medium mindset. I don't feel comfortable with this nomination and think a spotcheck of sources needs to be carried out. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:20, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Good to have another view of Vibe. I also didn't feel comfortable with the nom, once Tomica failed to make that fix. I can call for another reviewer there, but I've already taken myself out of doing anything more; if we can't get anyone to review it, what happens? We're asking for a major investment of time with the spotchecks, and I know we'd be reluctant to promote without them. I could ask Nikkimaria, but I feel like I'm imposing on her a lot, lately. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:45, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

• I say if it fails, it fails. I don't have the time to invest in full spotchecks right now (starting an international seminar later, and I have to teach) but maybe someone will pick it up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:57, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Kami, Perempuan

Tn. Woodrich, saya lihat di artikel Kami, Perempuan, pada bagian referensinya 'kok ada kata "Woodrow, Chris"? Bukankah itu adalah nama asli anda yaitu Chris Woodrich? Jadi, anda juga membuat buku? Wah, kalau begitu, hebat, 'dong! Tampang anda yang sedang mengajar seperti di sini itu memang benar anda? Kalau begitu, pas saya liburan ke Yogyakarta (jikalau ada waktu yang mendukung), saya harus ketemu anda 'nih! Hanamanteo (talk) 16:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

• Itu artikel yang sempat saya menulis, iya. Memang sastra Indonesia merupakan bidang saya. Boleh, kalau saudara ke Jogja. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:11, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Boleh tidak kita mengambil sumber artikel dari karya kita sendiri? Contohnnya anda mengambil sumber dari karya anda sendiri untuk artikel Kami, Perempuan. Apakah perbuatan tersebut dikategorikan sebagai riset asli? Hanamanteo (talk) 09:00, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

• Riset asli kan riset yang belum pernah diterbitkan sebelumnya (alias menjadi "asli Wikipedia"). Yang ini sudah diterbitkan. Abstraknya juga bisa dibaca di situs penerbit, yaitu Universitas Sanata Dharma. Kalau merujuk karya diri sendiri, saya merasa hal ini boleh asal tidak melewati batas yang wajar. Di sini artikel tersebut hanya digunakan untuk satu paragraf saja, sementara paragraf-paragraf lain di artikel ini dari sumber lain sekali. Ada 5 atau 6 sumber di sana, bukan hanya satu. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:11, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Mohon memberikan suara

Anda dimohon oleh saya untuk memberikan suara di sini dan sini. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 04:14, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

• Yg Lily van Java belum ada. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:05, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Bukan, Tn. Woodrich, saya salah ketik. Coba anda klik lagi, mungkin sudah bisa. Hanamanteo (talk) 15:14, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Pattimura

Crisco, sebenernya saya mau bilang ini dari dulu cuman baru keinget hari ini. Saya lihat artikel id:Pattimura di WBI rada berbenturan antara versi Kristen (Thomas Matulessy) & versi Islam (Ahmad Lussy). Padahal saya ingat kalo dulu versi Ahmad Lussy ditolak di artikel Pattimura di Wikipedia bahasa Inggris dengan alasan This text is based on one very biased source: "Api Sejarah", AM Suryanegara. Tolong donk benerin artikel Pattimura yang di WBI tersebut. --Erik Fastman (talk) 12:50, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

• Bukannya "Be Bold" juga berlaku di WB Indonesia? Sumber ilmiah tidak jelas apakah Pattimura itu seorang Kristen atau Muslim (Kristen, Muslim, dst.), jadi lazimnya dinyatakan bahwa sumber tidak setuju. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:17, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Morotai mutiny

Saya lihat, ada artikel Morotai Mutiny yang menjadi AP, namun belum diberi tag ProyekWiki Indonesia. Tn. Woodich, boleh tidak saya menambahkan tag ProyekWiki Indonesia di halaman pembicaraan artikel itu? Hanamanteo (talk) 04:14, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

• Sudah saya menambahkan templat tersebut. Terima kasih untuk infonya. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:09, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Sama-sama! Hanamanteo (talk) 15:30, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Langit Makin Mendung

Saya lihat di Talk:Langit Makin Mendung, 'kan ada tag permohonan status artikel bagus yang diberikan oleh anonim, namun, sampai sekarang, mengapa artikel ini belum dinilai, padahal sudah 2 bulan tag itu diberikan? Hanamanteo (talk) 15:33, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

• Antrian di GAN kan panjang sekali. Ada yang sampai 4 bulan belum di-review. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:28, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 November 2013

• Traffic report: Google Doodlebugs bust the block

• Featured content: 1244 Chinese handscroll leads nine-strong picture contingent

• Special report: FDC staff raise the benchmarks for activities, impact, planning, and governance

• News and notes: Trademark at issue again with the Italian Wikipedia and wikipedia.it

• WikiProject report: The world of soap operas

• Discussion report: Commas, Draft namespace proposal, education updates, and more

• Read this Signpost in full
• Single-page
• Unsubscribe
• EdwardsBot (talk) 08:23, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Njai Dasima (film 1932) dan Kami, Perempoean

Anda dimohon oleh saya untuk memberikan suara di sini dan sini. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 16:22, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Kami, Perempuan

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Steeplechase 2013

Hi Crisco 1492- I try to avoid making assumptions - in FP, specifically the set of fractional currency that was just promoted (and the set of FRBN currency which might get enough support), am I correct in believing that each individual image of the set counts as a piece of featured content for the Steeplechase? If this is the case then I will officially enter. I have three more days to nominate eligible material. Thanks in advance for your input.-Godot13 (talk) 06:30, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

• I think it should. I'd ask Hahc21 about that. Thanks for the feedback on the Sambisari picture... I will try and fix it when I get home. I made sure to save the raw files for that series of pictures. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:59, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK

Hi Crisco, would you be able to review this DYK nom so that I have time to fix any issues in time for the 50th anniversary on Saturday please? Thanks, Matty.007 15:01, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

I've tried to fix the issues. Thanks, Matty.007 19:40, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations!

		The Really Nice View for Really Nice Work Award
		Hello Crisco 1492, I saw that you have been doing some really nice work on Wikipedia, including loads on DYK and Featured Pictures, my watchlist keeps getting pinged by featured picture success notification, but you have also been very active elsewhere; so I thought that you deserved to be the third recipient of the 'Really Nice View' award. Congratulations! Matty.007 15:15, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:38, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

If you have some spare time

Would you mind FA reviewing Elgin, Illinois, Centennial half dollar? It's just been bypassed for now for promotion. It has three supports but at one time had an oppose so I guess it's gonna take a little bit more.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:33, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

• Just on my way out for supper, but I'll be glad to stop by. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Portal:Freedom of speech - for peer review

• Portal:Freedom of speech

I've placed Portal:Freedom of speech up for portal peer review. Comments would be welcome, at Wikipedia:Portal peer review/Freedom of speech/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 23:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

• We'll see. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:39, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/US Postal Currency 5 cent 1862 1863

Hi Crisco-

I am nominating a fractional note for FP delist as it duplicates one in the recently promoted complete set. I'm letting you know because you were the original nominator of the file.

I made two more banknote nominations today and then I'm going to give currency a rest for a while to work on a complete Silver Certificate type set (FLC). You are a great supporter of getting currency featured and I appreciate it.-Godot13 (talk) 15:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads up. Will reply there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:21, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Expansion of TFL on the main page

A new discussion regarding the expansion of TFL on the main page has been started. As a fellow FL delegate, your views on this matter would be appreciated. – SchroCat (talk) 09:54, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Gender

[1] Yes writing out "(female)" is awkward, but her gender *IS* important because the Wikipedia article and its references explain that "She also gained notability as she was the only woman, other than Hillary Clinton, in the photograph." While reading the whole article makes it obvious which depicted person on the photo is associated with the "Audrey Tomason" name in the article, not writing out her gender creates two difficulties that are worse than putting the awkward note "(female)": first, I had *great* difficulty understanding who "Audrey Tomason" is looking at the photo and at the list of people in the photo: the description says "standing" and "from left to right" and if someone closely looks at the photo it's possible to identify her correctly in the first instance, but the chance of mistaken identification is quite high, and I actually misidentified her (I actually thought she was a male standing near her, only much later reading the whole article I understood my mistake). I regularly interpret English Wikipedia articles in Greek to other people, which means I read the English text and I say aloud the Greek translation as I tranlate the text on my head in real time, and I regularly make mistakes regarding the genders of people as I don't know what names are associated with which gender, I actually was reading aloud interpreting this article and I announced to the other people who were listening to me that she was a male near her, then I wondered who this young woman is and I assumed she were probably a low-ranking employee like e.g. a cleaner or a random journalist as I didn't see the list of names containing any other female than Clinton, and then I looked closer in the photo and found out the person whose shoulder is visible and with the list of names I understood my mistake and corrected myself. Because she holds an apparently high-ranking office, someone not being able to understand genders from foreign names would immediately assume she is male because males are more often associated with high government positions. So, the mistake I did could be done by other people as well, some of whom may be interpreters who read articles aloud to other people who listen. Problem is, interpreters can't know that in the next paragraphs the article specifically refers to her as a woman, so such a mistake regarding her gender could go unnoticed for some time. Of this problem regarding genders isn't only in this article, but it's a good case here, so I think we need some way to give the gender info in the encyclopedia, as the English language isn't good at giving the gender info (in Greek it's virtually impossible to refer to any person without giving out the gender info, nearly all words carry the gender information). While the inclusion of gender after names may seem awkard, allowing such gender mistakes to happen seem more of a problem to me. Cogiati (talk) 12:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

• TL; DR. Short version: if it is clear in the body of the text that Tomason is female, having to indicate that she is female with a parenthetical could be downright insulting, as if saying "yeah, this person has a fairly high position even though she's female", clearly a position we shouldn't be taking. That the individuals' positions in the photograph are numbered in that list also makes where she is perfectly clear.12:50, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
  • (Talk page stalker: C's talk page happens still to be on my watchlist). Cogiati (I speak as a retired woman French professor): Crisco is right. The reason is that English and the gendered languages have gone in opposite directions on the question of indicating gender when talking about a person's profession. The bottom line is that in English we strive for gender neutrality unless there is a compelling reason to specify gender (first woman president, only male midwife, etc.); I see none in this instance. Personally, I also deplore the recent move towards using "female" instead of "woman" in contexts like this. I'm a woman not a female. Ideally I'm a retired French professor, period. If you have to specify, for example you want to say that professors who are women get screwed if they take time out to raise their kids, then that's "women professors" not "female professors" get screwed. Hope this helps. Awien (talk) 18:38, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks much

Thank you for your point you made recently at Ian Rose's talk page. It's just I'm heading out of town soon and will have limited Internet access for a while. But I understand your point, Crisco 1492, and I'll give it a rest for a while. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 01:04, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Komik Si Juki

Om Woodrich, boleh tdk aku membuat artikel komik Indonesia/dlm negeri yg baru terkenal setahun blakangan ini. Ini rancangannya. Boleh tdk, om dan sdh bisa dijadikan artikel blum? Sbab, sy skali-skali -sbagaimana pesan Faza Ibnu Ubaidillah/Faza Meon- harus [punya semangat] "anti-mainstream" sedikit. Jadi, ap udah boleh dibuatin artikelnya blum? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 02:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

• Kalau sumbernya memadai, mengapa tidak? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:00, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Minta review-nya, om. Satu lagi om, tlg jelaskan kpd beta ttg perilaku "anti-mainstream" secara luas. Atas penjelasan om Woodrich, sy berucap trima kasi. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 08:16, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

• Sepertinya sudah cukup, tapi hati2... jangan sampai bahasanya terlalu promosional. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:38, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Promosi? Ide yg bagus, om Sy kira sy tdk promosi. Tapi, "anti-mainstream" itu [kabarnya] artinya itu adalah di luar kebiasaan, kan? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 08:51, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

• Maksudnya yang seperti "belum bulat setahun" dsb. Kalau anti-mainstream, boleh dianggap anti-popular atau anti-hal-hal yang disukai orang awam. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:55, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Klo Phineas and Ferb (sering nonton d RCTI jam 7 pagi) termasuk anak2 yg "anti-mainstream" gx kak? Sbab, mereka sring mengada-ngada. Mulai dari membuat benteng yg menjulang hingga sekian puluh (atw bahkan ratusan) kaki, membuat roket, membawa sapi k bulan, dll. Habis itu, d Indonesia film utk anak2 pertama itu dibuat pada thn brapa sih? Thn '50-an sdh ada gak? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 07:55, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

• Film yang ditujukan terkhusus untuk anak sudah ada pada tahun... 60-an sepertinya. Tapi baru booming akhir2 ini. Kalau Phineas and Ferb rasanya tidak masuk bagian dari counterculture yang menjadi tandanya "anti-mainstream". — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Di kranten ada 'gak koran2 yg menerangkan berita2 ttg film anak d Indonesia? Misalnya, dari De Sumatra Post, Java Bode, atw Bataviaasch Nieuwsblad? Kmudian, sayang skali film kartn yg sy sbut d atas rupanya tdk termasuk "anti-mainstream". Soalnya gini, kak, membawa monyet k luar angkasa itu 'kan udah biasa. Nah, skrg sapi yg dibawa k luar angkasa. Itu 'kan luar biasa. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 08:46, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

• Pada tahun 1960an sudah tidak ada koran berbahasa Belanda di Indonesia lagi. Orang2 Belanda udah lama diusir dari Nusantara. Adegan yang tidak logis tidak mesti anti-mainstream (dan soal sapi di luar angkasa, sudah lama ada "Hey Diddle Diddle"). Anti-mainstream mengartikan diri sebagai oposisi yang disengaja terhadap hal-hal yang dianggap "mainstream". Apakah tidak ada artikel counterculture dalam berbahasa Indonesia? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:57, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Tidak. Tapi, skali2 boleh dicoba oleh para antariksawan d negeri Amerika. Lalu, masalah koran. Kan kata om, "Orang2 Belanda udah lama diusir dari Nusantara" tapi kayaknya baru mau akhir thn 50'an lah org2 Belanda itu semua pada diusir kcuali org2 yg keukeuh (kukuh) hatinya, sperti Fritz G. Schadt, André Joseph Guillaume Henri Kostermans, dll. Tapi sialnya, tiada org Indo (atawa Belanda) yg mau kerja d pers (thn. 60-an) --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 09:11, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

• Maksud saya memang bukan setiap individu yang merupakan orang Belanda (Zoetmulder dkk. masih di Indonesia pada tahun2 itu). Tetapi mereka tetaplah kaum yang tersingkirkan, yang tidak menduduki posisi kekuasaan, dan karena itu tidak dimungkinkan untuk mengembangkan pers tersendiri. Soal orang Indo tidak masuk pers lagi pada tahun 1950an, aku merasa mungkin cenderung seperti itu... tapi masih ada yang ikut pers. Dekker, misalnya. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:33, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Aduh, kok pembicaraan kita malah makin ngelantur, 'ya? Baiklah, Dekker. Dekker itu kerja d pers klo gak salah pada awal-awal abad ke 19. Om lihat pada De Expres dia, dan bagaimana dia sering berdebat dengan Karel Zaalberg yg sdh jelas lebih mendukung orang Indo ketimbang bangsa sy sendiri om, bangsa Indonesia. Lalu, waktu Dekker masuk Islam, dia kan banyak nulis di majalah Hikmah, majalahnya Masyumi. Tuan boleh baca di Douwes Dekker:Sang Inspirator Revolusi (Tempo:November 2012). Lalu Kostermans, sepengetahuan sy, org ini pernah kerja buat LIPI d bagian botani. Artinya, masih ada org Indo yg mau kerja buat pemerintah (Indonesia). Tapi, ngomong2 ttg nasibnya org2 Indo itu, memang sungguh memprihatinkan. Ada yg sampe k Belanda, langsung dibeda-bedakan, sbab ada yg org Belanda tapi kulitnya sawo matang. Sbenarnya, sy ini ngomongkan nasib org Indo, sebab sy masih punya keturunan Belanda -kata bpk sy, om. Makanya, sy prihatin melihat nasibnya org2 Indo. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 11:24, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

• Wekek, ngelantur dikit gpp, kan? Memang ada orang Indo yang bekerja untuk pemerintah, tetapi pada awal revolusi semua orang Indo itu dipandang sebagai mata-mata atau calon mata-mata. Bukanlah kebetulan kalau perempuan penggoda dalam Darah dan Doa itu perempuan Indo... dan memang banyak yang dibunuh pada periode Bersiap (akhir tahun 1945) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Klo kaka ingin cari populasi org Indo terbanyak di Kalimantan Barat, carilah di daerah Kabupten Bengkayang dkat Malaysia. D sana, waktu jaman perang revolusi hingga thn. 60-an, org2 Belanda yg gx bisa pulang k Belanda yg padahal kelahiran Kalimantan, pada akhirnya banyak yg lari ke itu kabupaten. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 02:36, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

• Oh begitu. Boleh, kalau saya sempat ke Kalimantan. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:19, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Klo d Jawa, org2 Indo macam sy 'ni paling banyak d kota ap saja? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 07:34, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

• Konon di Purworejo masih banyak. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:46, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Muslim atw tdk? 'Dah itu, apakah mereka punya -setidaknya- sedikit ciri2 org Belanda (paling tdk kw2)? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 12:00, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

• Teman saya yang memberitahukan saya soal ini itu Nasrani. Saya tidak tahu apakah orang2 Indo di Purworejo itu rata2 Muslim atau tidak. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:09, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Kak, sy mulai jenuh membicarakan asal-usul diri sy (org Indo). Ada yg sy hendak tanyakan, sbentar lagi sy mau menulis artikel Mohammad Natsir dgn memakai buku otobiografi org lain, yakni buku Douwes Dekker yg sy sbut di atas. Masalahnya, penulis & kontributor itu buku mencapai lebih dari 30 org, jadi gimana? Apakah sy menulis para penulis beserta kontributornya itu "Setiadi, Purwanto (Penanggung Jawab), dkk." atw "Setiadi, Purwanto (Penanggung Jawab), et al."? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 05:40, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

• Et al. boleh, atau juga boleh berdasarkan penulis artikel atau bab. Ada pula biografi Natsir yang dapat diperoleh... saya pernah lihat satu di Gramedia. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:08, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Jadi gimana? Ap penulisannya harus "Setiadi dkk. (2012), hal.150-51."? Atw bagaimana? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 06:12, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Betul, seperti itu. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:29, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Oooo... gitu. Trima kasih, om. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 06:33, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Jadi, bagaimana dgn ini ? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 06:57, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

• Barangkali Tempo dimasukkan ke field "editor1-last=" — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:02, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

UN Peer Review

Hey Crisco, I just opened a peer review for United Nations; I think it's just about ready to go to GA, but this topic is so sprawling that I thought I'd get other eyes on it first. Would you be willing to take a look? Khazar2 (talk) 02:32, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• I'll try to have a look-see sometime this week. I'll be heading for Jakarta in a couple weeks to do research for my thesis, so everything is a bit rush-rush right now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:39, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• Very cool. How's the thesis coming? -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:40, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• Something like 60 pages (A4, double space) and 17,500 words. The proposal's been accepted, so I just have to write the darn thing (and try to find some data at Sinematek Indonesia, the National Archives of Indonesia, National Library of Indonesia, H. B. Jassin Documentation Centre, and the library of the University of Indonesia). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:44, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• How long does it have to be in the end? -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:46, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• I think 75 is the bare minimum. I'm aiming for about 120 pages or so. At the rate I'm going, it shouldn't be too bad. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:49, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• Nice. Given your experience here, I shouldn't think producing mass amounts of footnoted prose should slow you down in the least. Good luck, keep me posted on how it goes... -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:52, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• Will do. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:05, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Lisensi yg pas

Kak, sy ini mau masukin gambar karangan Frederick Turner (1852-....) dari buku Australian grasses Buku ini dikarangnya pada thn 1895, jadi bagaimana perihal lisensinya? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 04:27, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• Turner meninggal tahun 1939, jadi PD-1923 dan PD-Australia sudah cukup. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:40, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Trima kasih. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 04:41, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Bagaimana dgn gambar gambar jukut sauheum (Setaria palmifolia (Willd.) Stapf) dari buku Emergency food plants and poisonous plants karangan Elmer Drew Merril pada tahun 1943 di AS? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 05:02, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• Ada "copyright symbol" tidak? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:10, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Maksud om? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 05:11, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• Ini. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:35, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Soekiman's image

Hey Chris. I noticed that Soekiman Wirjosandjojo image is not available in Commons. Can you find and upload it? This is very important since he was one of the Indonesian PM. Thank you. SpartacksCompatriot 16:27, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• I don't seem to have anything on my computer yet. I may try and find some old newspapers (1951/52, most likely) if I have time. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:39, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Soekarno: Indonesia Merdeka

Dalam waktu yang tidak lama, akan tayang film Soekarno: Indonesia Merdeka mulai Desember depan. Teringin rasanya saya membuat dan mengembangkannya hingga menjadi AP di WBI, karena film ini mengisahkan bapak proklamator Indonesia, Ir. Soekarno. Namun, saya kebingungan mencari sumber yang berkaitan. Bang Woodrich, saya ingin bertanya, saya lihat, di artikel ?, terdapat banyak sekali sember, nah, darimanakah anda mendapat sumbernya? Apakah di Google atau apa? Soalnya saya ingin mencari sebanyak-banyaknya rujukan mengenai film ini dengan harapan bisa menjadi artikel yang berkualitas. Nah, kalau seperti ini, peluang artikel ini untuk menjadi AP di WBI menjadi terbuka lebar. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 05:06, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

• Google. Tapi tunggulah, sampai filmnya keluar. Awal Januari mungkin... banyak sekali resensi film yang bisa didapat. Kalau DVD-nya sudah keluar malah lebih baik lagi. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:29, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Yet another DYK related Q from me

Hi Crisco, sorry to keep asking you questions about DYK; but I have another. How many DYKs would you consider a reasonable number in regard to helping format the hooks for prep areas? Thanks again for all the help; Matty.007 16:09, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• For editing the prep areas you don't need a set amount of DYKs. You need to know the DYK process, however, and be sure that you check the pages for issues before promoting them. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:35, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
  • I'm not planning on doing anything like that yet, probably when I am closer to 50 DYKs, but I was wondering what you felt a good amount of experience was. Thanks, Matty.007 08:58, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
    • For typos and the like, I think you'd be ready now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:07, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 November 2013

• From the editor: The Signpost needs your help

• Book review: Peter Burke's Social History of Knowledge—ambitious, fascinating, and exhaustive

• Featured content: Rockin' the featured pictures

• WikiProject report: Score! American football on Wikipedia

• News and notes: Foundation to Wiki-PR: cease and desist; Arbitration Committee elections starting

• Traffic report: Ill Winds

• Arbitration report: WMF opens the door for non-admin arbitrators

• Read this Signpost in full
• Single-page
• Unsubscribe
• EdwardsBot (talk) 12:58, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Franklin Peale

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:37, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Njai Dasima (1932 film)

The article Njai Dasima (1932 film) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Njai Dasima (1932 film) for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dwaipayanc -- Dwaipayanc (talk) 20:02, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Prep 4

Hi Crisco, I just noticed you are working on the queues and prep areas at the moment. Sorry to be a complete pain but did you see I had posted a note at WT:DYK about the hook for Wellington Suspension Bridge presently in Prep 4? Perhaps it's not possible to change it though .... SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:42, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

• I didn't do Prep 4 and was just intent on getting something to queue. If there is a date request and you (or the nominator) have an issue with the article running now, there is no issue against pulling it from prep. Just make sure to move the template a bit further south (to the special holdings area) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:44, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Crisco, thanks for the prompt response - no, it wasn't a specific date request, per se, it was simply it is scheduled to run during the night and I would be in the land of nod while it was appearing (and also it's about a bridge in Scotland so probably of more interest during UK day time). I did also leave a note on Gilderien's page but I do appreciate there aren't many approved hooks to work with just now. SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

• I don't think there is an issue if you move it to Prep 2 (evening in UK, I believe). Prep 1 is full, but you could probably trade an American hook. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:05, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I didn't think I could do that as I'm the nominator - and article creator? SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:12, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

• Fair enough. I've done it (switch to prep 1). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:23, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, very much appreciated - I'll leave you in peace now to get on with your work ... SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:32, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Carmyllie Railway

Hello! Your submission of Carmyllie Railway at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Rcej (Robert) – talk 12:33, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

User talk:BlueMoonset#Asking advice

Crisco, I was hoping you could weigh in on my talk page; Cwmhiraeth has a question about a joint nom with another user, who just had a nom rejected due to attribution issues with material copied from CC sources (and the consequent huge reduction in text that could be considered "new"). I gave it my best shot, but I'm not sure I got it right. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

• Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Delisting feature picture

You have voted on the delisting of US Postal Currency 5 cent 1862 1863. Some new information has been presented. Would you consider reviewing your vote?

The deletion request was started because it was assumed that File:US-Fractional (1st Issue)-$0.05-Fr.1231.jpg was the same currency as File:US Postal Currency 5 cent 1862 1863.jpg. The Fr.1231 currency was in better condition so it should replace "US Postal Currency 5 cent 1862 1863" as the featured image. They are not the same. The older file is of type Fr.1230 because it has an ABC monogram on the back. As a security measure, the US Post Office had the front and back of the bills printed by two companies. The back of the Fr.1230 was printed by the American Banknote Company and their ABC monogram appears in the lower right corner. The Fractional currency (United States) article explains the difference but does not show an example. -- SWTPC6800 (talk) 18:41, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Signpost appearance

Greetings, Crisco. The draft of Featured Content in next week's Signpost includes a summary of Fakih Usman. If you're happy with that summary, great! No action is needed. But if you think a different summary would be more appropriate, feel free to edit or rewrite it as you like (so long as it fits in with the length and tone of other entries). All the best, – Quadell ^(talk) 19:00, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

• Wow, a notice. I must say that's a lot more than I've known any FC writer (including myself) to do. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:22, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

bantuan terjemahan

Halo Crisco, Anda bisa bantu ngartiin ini dalam bahasa Indonesia kagak:

• to which their country's animators should aspire
• detailed recreation of a rural Malay childhood

--Erik Fastman (talk) 11:10, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• Yang layak dicita-citakan semua animator di negara itu
• Rekreasi masa kanak-kanak yang sangat mendetail. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:48, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Two images from Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Unused

I found an article, Craniofacial prosthesis, which might be used for the following two pictures from Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Unused: File:French mutilé without mask2.jpg and File:French mutilé with mask2.jpg. What do you think? Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 12:56, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• It's possible, but I'd check with someone from WP:MED first to see if it is the same treatment. Maybe Doc James or one of his comrades would know. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:16, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:20, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks, Doc. Looking at Google I rather agree (seems to be a prosthetic chin?), though I note that most things in Google Image Search are noses, ears, or eye sockets. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:28, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Jinnah pic

Beats me how that happened. Partisan schedule a bad pic for Jinnah's birthday?--Wehwalt (talk) 08:39, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

• More or less. POTD is not protected while in the queue, after all. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:04, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

  Peale had a good DYK. I think I am going to get complaints that article is too long, but it is what was out there.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

  I wouldn't worry about that. So long as it's focused and clear there shouldn't be a problem. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:46, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I think it is. It's probably the best bio of Peale available. If there's a better one, I'd like to read it.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:05, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Image question

As you're an image minded sort of chap, I thought I'd check this with you. This version of an article I've been working on has several images. I've removed quite a few of them as I think they are dubious. They're probably PD in their place of origin, but I think they fall foul of US Copyright under the 1996 thing (whose name escapes me and I haven't the patience to chase it up!). Yet they are on Commons. But I'd like a second opinion. Also, on that article (D'Oliveira affair), is there any scope for a fair use image such as B. J. Vorster or Basil D'Oliveira. I suspect it's not justified, but again I'd like your opinion as you are rather better than me at this kind of thing. Thanks! Sarastro1 (talk) 21:07, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Uruguay Round Agreements Act (URAA)? Chris857 (talk) 21:39, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

That's the chap! Sarastro1 (talk) 21:36, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• I've yet to see a single image that is definitely PD. Most of them fall afoul of the first URAA clause (in the template): They were not PD in their source country at the time of the Act. I haven't even been able to confirm File:Alexander Frederick Douglas-Home official.jpg. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:32, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• Except the Oval. That's fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:38, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

POTD December 12

Hi Crisco, thank you for informing me that File:Quito Accordion player.jpg will appear as POTD on December 12 2013. Regards, --Cayambe (talk) 15:24, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• You're welcome. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:39, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:POTD/2013-12-10

Looks good to me. Thank you, --Iifar (talk) 18:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Carmyllie Railway

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Lintah Darat

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Test

• @FAC coordinators: : So how is our test working? Would be nice to write about Soerjadi Soerjadarma (i.e. Suryadi Suryadarma)... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:56, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
  • That worked, tks mate. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:05, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
    • Glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Crisco 1492. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of chief ministers from Bharatiya Janata Party/archive1.
Message added 05:06, 30 November 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 05:06, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Alhamdulillah dan....

Bung, sy bersyukur karna klo d sini, AP harus diperiksa panjang lebar (lebih2 dlm hal bhs.) dan apa sebabnya, faktor ke-tatabahasa-an itu [klo dilihat] paling penting dlm penilaian/syarat satu artikel sbelum menjadi AP? Toh di id.wp aja, syarat ke-tatabahasa-an aja gx penting2 amat?

Yg kedua, film suara yg paling awal d dunia itu apa judulnya, dan kapan diciptakan? Dan waktu awal-awal penciptaan film suara, bagaimana cara memasukkan suara k dlm film yg kita target? Lalu, ap sbabnya daerah2 sperti Kalimantan Barat itu yang sejarahnya masih "gelap" itu ref. nya harus dirujuk memakai koran-koran Belanda (terutama waktu zaman Bersiap hingga rentang thn. 50-an akhir) gak seperti sejarah org2 d P. Jawa yg "terang boelan benderang"?

Salam. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 06:13, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

• Budaya Indonesia memang kurang memusatkan soal tata bahasa (lihat aja, banyak buku yang tidak pernah disunting dengan baik). Don Juan merupakan film suara (full sound) panjang pertama... kalau prosesnya saya kurang menguasai. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:29, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm.... tuan mulai menyindir.... sy rasa nggak. Buku2 botani [yg 1/4-nya itu sy pinjam dari perpus sekolah] itu ejaannya bagus semua, kok. Tatabahasa-nya sy kira bagus, lalu, huruf. Huruf dlm buku2 sy tdk kurang, tdk pula lebih melainkan semuanya sudah di-edit dgn baik, walaupun buku2 yg lain, sy tak tahu nasib mereka. O ya, satu lagi. Ap beda bhs. Inggris (yg ada d Britania) dan yg ada d Amerika? Atas jawaban tuan, sy berucap terima kasih. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 06:37, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

• Silahkan periksa sendiri. Bukalah buku EYD, misalnya, lalu membandingkan apa yang seharusnya dengan apa yang terdapat dalam buku sastra, teks, atau lain2. Saya sudah menemukan banyak kesalahan dalam buku2 yang diterbitkan oleh Gadjah Mada Press dan penerbit universitas lain (apalagi buku ajar!). Kalau perbedaan AmE dan BrE, baiknya membaca Comparison of American and British English. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/The Day The Earth Smiled

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:The Day the Earth Smiled - PIA17172.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:52, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Problem with AFC again

Hi Crisco. The RIIHFF awards list was declined by Hasteur again. Actually all he did was recopy his original decline notice and left another rude message in the edit history. Is there anyway I could get a second opinion from another reviewer? 72.74.209.230 (talk) 01:10, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

• I still think this individual does not know how to review at AFC and should not do so. However, we've already seen that drama seems to follow this little clique... have you tried asking at WT:AFC? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:36, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I've left a message there. Thanks. 72.74.214.254 (talk) 21:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:43, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Yellow-spotted Honeyeater

The Yellow-spotted Honeyeater article isn't a stub any more thanks to King jakob c 2's expansion, and therefore File:Meliphaga notata - Daintree Village.jpg from Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Unused can be used now as POTD. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads up. Will schedule it now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:46, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Some motor oil for you!

	The "You're a Machine" Award
	As you appear to be an unstoppable android of content creation, I hereby award you this motor oil to quench your thirst. Thanks for using your talents for good instead of evil. -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:55, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

• LOL, thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:01, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

• ... for good: today's Frank's Cock, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

• Glad you like it, Gerda. Surprised how little vandalism thus far. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:10, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

• Can't help much today, will sing "Wachet auf!" (Wake up!), not by JS but son Johann Christoph Friedrich Bach wo tried to outdo his dad ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:POTD/2013-12-20

Mansion was founded sometime before the 17th century, but the castle is built 1907-1912. Regards, --Iifar (talk) 09:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

• Okay, thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:07, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For an excellent article on Frank's Cock on the front page - and for the subsequent slings and arrows. - SchroCat (talk) 09:35, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

F's C: GA & FA

I noticed that Frank's Cock landed on today's Featured Article page of the English Wikipedia, and so I scratched my head and said, "Hm... I wonder if Crisco1492 is involved in that somehow..." And so I looked, and sure enough: there you were! Well done on getting this article reviewed and through "committee" (do people really still say things like "poofter's disease" these days?? Incroyable). KDS4444^Talk 11:10, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks, KDS; it was a fun article to work on. To be honest the vandalism hasn't been as bad as I thought it would be... so far. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:15, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

needses

gollum like we needses categories for nei/dutch era movieses, for precious... we needses either Films made in... or Films of or Filmses, we needses, for precious... dateses just boring and unhelpfulses, lack of catses makeses hungry for more fisheses... satusuro 00:38, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

sheesh me dumsess, found the right bit to add... apolses satusuro 01:02, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

• Nossses worriess, we mussst.... themss kategorieessssss issss wellsss putss togetherrs.. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:34, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

keeping up with the gollummsesness - needsses dinas purbakala article like yesterday... satusuro 09:13, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

• Weessh agreeesssh.... Dinas Purbakala, under the Ministry of Education and Culture I believe? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:15, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

(Silly hobbitses. Don't quite knows how to talk like proper Smeagols, do they? No, they doesn'ts. Not nice, not nice at allsess! But they has to try, doesn't they? Yesssss.... Makes good effortses!)

KDS4444^Talk 11:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Matty.007is wishing you a Merry Christmas (quite possibly a White Christmas.

Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove.

Spread the Christmas spirit by adding {{subst:User:Matty.007/template/Christmas}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message. If everyone who got this put it on two talk pages, we would have... lots of Christmas spirit! Have fun finding links in this message!

• Thanks Matty. No chance for a White Christmas in Jakarta though! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:39, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Ah well, we can always dream. Matty.007 11:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
    • Quite true. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:10, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations on getting Frank's Cock to FA status and then FA of the Day! Good to see more avant-garde film related stuff up there. Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks. It was certainly an interesting experience, and I would like to return to Hoolboom's works as well... I think there are a couple more that are notable. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:32, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

• Congrats from me too! It's always a pleasure to see your stuff on the front page in any of its sections, but particularly that one. -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:04, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks. I am pleasantly surprised by the reaction thus far... no concerns at WT:MP so far. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:07, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Or not. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Bar-backed Partridge

The Bar-backed Partridge article isn't a stub any more thanks to HueSatLum's expansion, and therefore File:Arborophila brunneopectus male - Kaeng Krachan.jpg and File:Arborophila brunneopectus female - Kaeng Krachan.jpg from Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Unused can be used now as POTD (probably on the same day). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 20:23, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks. Agree about the double run. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Pather Panchali peer review

Hi! If you have time, could you please have a look into this? Your comments will be highly appreciated in this peer review. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:36, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

• Don't think I'll have time. December looks to be quite busy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

• That's ok. If you have time :) I am not yet sure about when I'll aim for the FAC. That may be well beyond December.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

William Burges

Burges made TFA today - currently causing somewhat less controversy than yesterday's contribution! - and I wanted to drop you a line of thanks for all of your work on the images. They needed reviewing, I was quite unable to so, and I hugely appreciate your undertaking the task. Thanks and regards. KJP1 (talk) 07:29, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

• Always glad to help. A great big congratulations there! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:13, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Crisco 1492. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Needle Galaxy 4565.jpeg.
Message added 13:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hope now you may support the picture... Herald talk with me 13:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Frankscock

Remember the user Frankscock? I think they have a new account called Franklin dfd. Is this a legitimate account, or a sockpuppet? George8211^{what did I break now?} 20:16, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

• Not a new account. Frankscock was only blocked for breaching username policy, so he changed his name to Franklin dfd. Besides I doubt he will be back. Beerest 2 talk 20:23, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks. George8211^{what did I break now?} 20:30, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
    • What Beerrest said. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:28, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Frank's Cock

Can you reduce its expiration? Vandalism was due to WP:TFA, so by 4 December it will be normalized. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 06:27, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• Cut back a bit. I'm still keeping protection though, as the link is still on the MP and the IP-hopper doesn't seem like one to give up easily. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:51, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Plumbeous Water Redstart

The Plumbeous Water Redstart article isn't a stub any more thanks to Bloom6132's expansion, and therefore File:Rhyacornis fuliginosus - Doi Inthanon.jpg from Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Unused can be used now as POTD. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 09:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• Saw that. January seems about right. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:25, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
  • I agree with you on that. Another FP saved from the "Stubbity stub stub"-Hell. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 09:33, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
    • Yay! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:41, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Favour?

Hi Crisco, Cassianto and I have been slowly working on Hattie Jacques, with a view to an FAC visit in the not-too-distant future. We're still in copy edit mode, but I wondered if you could have a quick look over the images before we get to PR? Many thanks for any help you can provide. - SchroCat (talk) 23:10, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

• I'll try to do something (getting ready for a long trip to Jakarta though, so no promises on timeliness). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:48, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• That's great, cheers. No rush at all, and if it's after the PR has started running, then its not a problem at all. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 08:55, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• Question though: are the images fixed (i.e. are you not going to add any more?) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:57, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• I don't think so. Should be all OK as it is - there's not much from her time we can use, as she's too 'new', and didn't get into any US productions, so the opportunities for finding free images are very slim. - SchroCat (talk) 09:34, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• Agree with you. Not worried about the two FU images and the TT one (we've checked that before). Will check rest later. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:44, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Carpet from Bagdad/archive1

I looked over the article structure in light of your suggestion to merge the fairly stubby Marketing section and indeed did so, although in a slightly different manner than you'd proposed. I'd love to see what you think of the current state of The Carpet from Bagdad, especially if you've got time to give it a closer examination. Your silent film articles may hail from the other side of the Pacific from mine, but I've certainly noticed your work on Indonesian arts and culture topics. Hopefully, I can start getting some of the lost American films of the 1910s to join them at FA. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• Alright, I'll try to stop by tonight (my time). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Much appreciated, whenever you have the free time available. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 23:00, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Maraton 2014

Bang Woodrich, di WBI ada lomba membuat artikel sebanyak-banyaknya pada akhir tahun 2013 dan awal tahun 2014, yaitu id:Wikipedia:Maraton/2014. Bang, saya undang anda untuk berpartisipasi dalam lomba ini dengan membuat artikel bertema Indonesia sebanyak-banyaknya, contohnya artikel Lintah Darat, belum ada artikelnys di WBI, jadi anda bisa membuat artikel ini untuk lomba ini. Kalau abang ingin tahu tentang lomba ini, harap hubungi saya di halaman pembicaraan saya di WBI. Terima kasih dan salam sejahtera! Hanamanteo (talk) 02:55, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

• Terima kasih atas undangannya, tetapi saya akan sangat sibuk bulan ini dengan kajian S2 saya di Jakarta. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:35, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Sama-sama bang. Hanamanteo (talk) 06:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Nyanyi Sunyi

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Nyanyi Sunyi you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Moswento -- Moswento (talk) 10:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Crisco 1492. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Needle Galaxy 4565.jpeg.
Message added 15:34, 4 December 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Herald talk with me 15:34, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

The Freedom of speech Barnstar

	The Freedom of speech Barnstar
	The Freedom of speech Barnstar is awarded to Crisco 1492, for contributions related to expanding and improving the quality of articles on Wikipedia relevant to freedom of speech and censorship, most recently with the WP:FA contribution of Frank's Cock. — Cirt (talk) 09:28, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Cirt! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:53, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
  • You're most welcome, — Cirt (talk) 20:25, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 December 2013

• Traffic report: Kennedy shot Who

• Recent research: Reciprocity and reputation motivate contributions to Wikipedia; indigenous knowledge and "cultural imperialism"; how PR people see Wikipedia

• Discussion report: Musical scores, diversity conference, Module:Convert, and more

• News and notes: One decade of Wikisource; FDC recommendations raise serious questions

• WikiProject report: Electronic Apple Pie

• Featured content: F*&!

• Arbitration report: Ottoman Empire–Turkey naming dispute case opens; New discretionary sanctions draft proposal available for review

• Read this Signpost in full
• Single-page
• Unsubscribe
• EdwardsBot (talk) 07:02, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Kadisoka

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

A few things

Crisco, I would appreciate your help with a few things, if at all possible:

• I got this reply from a ping to Maury Markowitz on a couple of QPQs he owes. I'm at a loss for what to say: perhaps you can think of something?
• Template:Did you know nominations/Roman Putin – can you please take a look at this one and see whether the X is appropriate, and if not take whatever next step ought to be done?
• Template:Did you know nominations/Elizabeth (BioShock) – as Victuallers and I seem to be coming from completely different positions (and neither of us is actually reviewing this), might you check it out or even finish the review or give your opinion of the hooks?

Thanks for anything you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:16, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

• Doing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:01, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Nyanyi Sunyi

The article Nyanyi Sunyi you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Nyanyi Sunyi for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Moswento -- Moswento (talk) 10:02, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

chooks

In view of various conversations - have a chook... satusuro 02:04, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK needs prep to queue move

Crisco, since it looks like you might be around, we're about 18 minutes late for the next main page promotion, because there's one prep (not ready until after the deadline) and no queues. If you see this and can do something, many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:18, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:24, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thank you! BlueMoonset (talk) 00:37, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

• Glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:40, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

• It seems unlikely that you're around, but I just stopped by and saw that there are only a few minutes before we're late again, so I thought I'd try a ping. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:07, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

• Crap, sorry. I was at a friend's place near Wonosari. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:19, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Violation of IBAN?

Hello,

Today I noticed that TonyTheTiger started reviewing United Nations, which was nominated to GAN by Khazar. The Legobot left a comment about this on Khazar's talk page with Tony's signature. Is this a violation of the (indefinite) interaction ban between them? Thanks. Mohamed CJ (talk) 13:09, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

• I believe so. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:13, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Batik shirt

It's probably in the media where you are, of course, but it's fun to see this little aside on Mandela's predilection for Indonesian batik amid all the (absolutely deserved) outpourings of praise and admiration for his amazing achievements:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-25258953

Awien (talk) 17:26, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

• That's interesting. Thanks for the read! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:49, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! Awien (talk) 23:03, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Kalasan

An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, File:Kalasan Temple from the north-east, 23 November 2013.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Armbrust The Homunculus 03:50, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

• Awesome! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:05, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Patent misuse

Crisco, I'm not sure whether this was part of a class or not, but the nominator has had only one edit since the end of October (mid-November), and the creator hasn't edited in about two weeks. I'm also not sure this ever had a full review, though Victuallers appears to have some issues with it (and his ALT is the only valid remaining hook; I just had to strike the original as too long). If you could give this a look and see what might be done, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:01, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

• Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:24, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Undangan diskusi id:Wikipedia:Artikel pilihan/Usulan/Kampung Boy (serial TV)

Mohon kiranya Anda dapat berpartisipasi lebih lanjut untuk memberikan komentar, pendapat, ataupun saran di sini .
Terima kasih dan salam sejahtera. --Erik Fastman (talk) 07:42, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Magnavox Odyssey

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Magnavox-Odyssey-Console-Set.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:02, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library Survey

As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 15:06, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Monster (company)

Hi Crisco. You previously pitched in on this article and I was hoping you could provide some fresh perspective here. The challenge, or so it would seem, is to create a section title besides "Controversies" per WP:Criticism, but that is not as watered down as "Pricing and performance." CorporateM (Talk) 04:18, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

image status on DYK nom

Hi Crisco, if you get the chance would you mind having a look at the Lilian Bland DYK nomination, please? I'm not sure about the image as although it has a US PD tag, it also has a 'possibly un-free' template. SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:34, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

• Have replied at the deletion discussion. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:33, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated! SagaciousPhil - Chat 23:57, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Crisco, I can see you've been uploading some other images for this (I always seem to manage to give you more work to do!). The DYK nominator appears to have just been indefinitely blocked [2] but I guess I can try contacting the article creator Andrew Gray? Or can the 'main/alternate' account take over? I was going to suggest either holding the nomination until the image concerns are clarified or running the hook (once I've double checked the rest of the DYK criteria) without an image - or maybe substituting one of the others you've found ... but would they reproduce well enough? SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:21, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I drafted most of the article but AD moved it to mainspace & added the image. I'll have a look at this tonight when I've some free time. Andrew Gray (talk) 12:44, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Okay, here's my conclusion: I have no evidence at all but I'm really quite confident that image was published around the time of the flight. Bland faded from public attention very fast; nothing was then written about her until the 1960s. It seems quite unlikely these photos were taken, not published, and then unearthed for the first time in her eighties.

The article is an unfinished mess, though (it was a userspace draft) and really needs some cleaning. I'll see if I can do some before it goes live. Andrew Gray (talk) 22:29, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry, you caught me just before flying out to Jakarta. I will try and take a look. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:32, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

• I'd suggest not worrying about the images too much. Make sure the article is up to par. The image doesn't have to run with it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:35, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/FTC v. Actavis, Inc.

Could you have a look at this and check to see if there is anything else I haven't covered?--Launchballer 08:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

• Guess it looks detailed enough. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:35, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Uncle David FA

Hello there Crisco. Given your previous work on Frank's Cock, I was wondering if you might be interested in having a look over at Uncle David, a similarly LGBT-themed avant-garde film that is currently undergoing FAC. Of course, there's no pressure, but if you do have a spare minute, any feedback or a statement of support/oppose would be appreciated. All the best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:34, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

• Hi MBO. I'm in Jakarta right now and don't have time for serious reviewing. If this is still at FAC when I get back home I'll drop on by (ping me if I haven't gotten there by New Year). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:36, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Sure thing; enjoy Jakarta! Midnightblueowl (talk) 16:20, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Vardges Sureniants

Crisco, I know you're in Jakarta right now—I hope you're having a great time—but I'm hoping that as someone who works from foreign language sources and does his own translating, you'll understand the issue here and whether it even is an issue. For some reason, NinaGreen and/or Proudbolsayhe have decided that I'm an expert, but you'll know what the issues are here, if any are indeed germane. Thank you very much. (If it just isn't in the cards, please let me know and I'll try to find someone else to handle it.) The original request was made on my talk page. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:34, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Kami, Perempuan

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Kami, Perempuan you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Taylor Trescott -- Taylor Trescott (talk) 03:22, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 December 2013

• Traffic report: Deaths of Mandela, Walker top the list

• In the media: Edward Snowden a "hero"; German Wikipedia court ruling

• News and notes: Wiki Loves Monuments—winners announced

• WikiProject report: WikiProject Wine

• Interview: Wikipedia's first Featured Article centurion

• Featured content: Viewer discretion advised

• Technology report: MediaWiki 1.22 released

• Read this Signpost in full
• Single-page
• Unsubscribe
• EdwardsBot (talk) 04:40, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

odd edits

some clever bunnies over times some arts havent been watched so carefully have peppered indonesian articles with refs to eb - watcha think? zap, or discuss first? satusuro 15:20, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

• EB? Britannica? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:33, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
• yup - trust jk is ok satusuro 11:50, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Better EB than nothing, I guess, and at least it's not an unreliable source. Jakarta is... Jakarta. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:53, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Gulp

I just did my first POTD_protected creation. I think I got everything: local version saved (not even sure that's needed, but it wasn't protected on commons when I looked), POTD_protected saved, blurb checked for English... I see you're not here much, but if you see this, I'd be more at ease if you looked it over and gave a thumbs up. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:50, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

• Looks peachy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:54, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Possible POTD and a question.

Hi Crisco- I was thinking about putting up a $1,000 1882 Gold Certificate for POTD January 11th (Alexander Hamilton's birthday). On commons there is Media of the Day, which does not appear to require any featuring process. There is a 5 minute video, a rap song written about Alexander Hamilton, that I was thinking of submitting, but I wanted your opinion if it was too long, not appropriate, etc. Many thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 02:11, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

• Re: MOTD (Commons): That's perfectly fine. They've shown 15-minute works before. POTD should be fine. Do you want to do the honours yourself (i.e. write the blurb?) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:47, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

• I'll take a shot at the blurb... Spent 4 hours scanning Indonesian bank notes today (at 800dpi). Just grabbing every different type and will sort out later (so far 1950's and 1960's). Some beautiful designs...-Godot13 (talk) 00:21, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

• That sounds very purdy. I might go to the Bank of Indonesia museum sometime this week (in Jakarta, so it's not too far), but shame they don't allow photography. I did get some coins though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:57, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Howdy

Hey Crisco. I'm finishing the AfC backlog tonight. That's right. Hey, can you do something for Kastella, maybe just some basic cleanup, wikilinks, a ref or two? (I found nothing for "Gammalamma".) Drmies (talk) 02:49, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

• Am in Jakarta and thus not able to do any serious editing. At least I'll get those categories sorted out. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:50, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Kami, Perempuan

The article Kami, Perempuan you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Kami, Perempuan for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Taylor Trescott -- Taylor Trescott (talk) 00:22, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

61st Oscars

Hi there, I understand you are busy with your thesis but I just wanted to ask you if you find this piece of information added by User:Korny O'Near acceptable for inclusion for the 61st Oscars. I am wondering if it sounds too gossipy or sensationalistic for a featured list.

Bowman herself has claimed that she was made to sign a gag order the next day prohibiting her from speaking to the press about her performance for the next 13 years. She finally spoke about it publicly in a 2013 interview, in which she described the performance as looking "like a gay bar mitzvah". --Birdienest81 (talk) 20:29, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

• I'd cut it down, at the very least. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:05, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Templat Avatar

mau nanya nih bung Crisco, saya liat di artikel List of Avatar: The Last Airbender episodes ada kode macam {{:Avatar: The Last Airbender (season 1)}}, {{:Avatar: The Last Airbender (season 2)}}, {{:Avatar: The Last Airbender (season 3)}} itu merujuknya kemana ya ? Saya rujuk ke Template:Avatar: The Last Airbender (season 1) tidak bisa, saya rujuk ke Template::Avatar: The Last Airbender (season 1) juga tidak bisa. Anda tau kagak kode tersebut merujuknya kemana ? --Erik Fastman (talk) 04:38, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

• Bukannya memang tidak ada templat itu? Adanya {{Avatar: The Last Airbender}} di Wikipedia bahasa Inggris. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:07, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

December 2013

Hello, I'm BracketBot. I have automatically detected that your edit to Kami, Perempuan may have broken the syntax by modifying 1 "()"s. If you have, don't worry: just edit the page again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on my operator's talk page.

List of unpaired brackets remaining on the page:

• {{lang|id|Poesat Keboedajaan}}; in Japanese, {{nihongo|''Keimin Bunka Shidōsho''|啓民文化指導所}})) opened in [[Jakarta]] on 1 April 1943, Pane served as the head of its literature desk. This office

Thanks, BracketBot (talk) 13:25, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Smithsonian

Hi Crisco- I made the request for a higher resolution image of the Star Spangled Banner. I had no idea what I was in for... The request needs to go through their publicity office as it is classified as an iconic national treasure. I will follow up with them as it is crazy that the English Wikipedia article does not even have an image of the entire object.
Different topic: the Indonesian "Featured Picture" process, if an image is highlighted in green after the voting period is over, does that mean it is featured, or simply chosen to be shown on the main page in the future, or both? Many thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 05:32, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• Green is chosen to be featured in a certain period (three days, I think). So, for instance, File:Astoria Hotel SPB.jpg would be running from 9-12 January 2014. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:45, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Kami, Perempuan

The article Kami, Perempuan you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Kami, Perempuan for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Taylor Trescott -- Taylor Trescott (talk) 22:32, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:41, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• No problem. It's a very nice article. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 19:18, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring at Talk:Claude Monet

Sorry, didn't notice the WikiBreak message

Hey, Crisco, would you mind handling this, or pointing it to another uninvolved admin who could? User:Modernist is editwarring at Talk:Claude Monet. I gave him a 3RR warning, which he deleted from his talk page within minutes and continued with another revert at Talk:Claude Monet. Sorry to be a pain in your ass. Curly Turkey (gobble) 11:53, 16 December 2013 (UTC) For what it's worth - he started an insulting thread attacking me and another editor regarding a dispute at the Monet article - which I've been working on since 2006. He's contributed 1 edit (yesterday) to the article - I've contributed many hours and more than 350 edits there. Please settle this dispute; appreciated...Modernist (talk) 12:00, 16 December 2013 (UTC) (talk page stalker) I don't want to get embroiled in this, but Modernist, that sounds a little like the ""I have spent hours editing this article. You are vandalising my work!"" example given on Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. Just my personal opinion though, I appreciate that you have significantly helped the article. Best, Matty.007 12:06, 16 December 2013 (UTC) Yeah, I can understand what you're saying - but it's not about the article it's about the personal attacks on the talk page...Modernist (talk) 12:09, 16 December 2013 (UTC) Just to be clear---I'm not asking for any admin to waste their time wading through Modernist's personal attacks, I'd just like to see the editwarring dealt with appropriately. Curly Turkey (gobble) 12:22, 16 December 2013 (UTC) There wasn't any editwarring only inappropriate accusations...Modernist (talk) 12:27, 16 December 2013 (UTC) (talk page stalker) Like Matty.007, I do not want to get embroiled in this either, but yes, there has been edit warring too (over the title) - as well as a lot of personal attacks going in various directions. - SchroCat (talk) 12:53, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

• Sigh... both of you: if you are still edit warring, I suggest asking a third party to weigh in / ask for page protection so that discussion is enforced. I've been quite busy, so I cannot do it right now. The joys of digitizing several thousand pages of documents... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:03, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for National Press Monument

Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:31, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Pengusulan AP

Bang Woodrich, dimohon untuk memberikan suara di sini, sini, sini, dan sini. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 15:03, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• Saya sudah mendukung satu. Satunya lagi ada masalah dengan gambar, dan dua lainnya nunggu kabar apakah akan diadakan daftar pilihan atau tidak dulu. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:08, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Permasalahan mengenai gambarnya sudah saya ambil sikap (menghapus gambar yang bermasalah). Oh, 'ya, mohon memberikan suara di sini dan sini. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 14:05, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

• Baik, terima kasih. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:42, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Si Ronda

Crisco, bisa tidak anda memeriksa suntingan saya di id:Si Ronda dan id:Nancy Bikin Pembalesan? h, 'ya, mengapa anda menghapus templat ini. Mohon dijelaskan. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 08:57, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

• Templatnya dihapus karena belum bisa dibuat tanpa adanya templat lain dulu, yang lebih baik ditunda pembuatannya. Suntingan sudah saya periksa. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:00, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Terima kasih, Abang Woodrich. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:03, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

• Sama2. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Geography by Ptolemy

Hi,

I saw that this was closed. I still thank you for supporting it. Meanwhile, I made a new version of this document, which is of much better quality than the previous one: File:La Cosmographie de Claude Ptolemée.pdf (PDF format this time, because I didn't manage to make a DJVU file as good as this PDF). Do you think I can renominate it? How so? Thanks, Yann (talk) 13:13, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• Ooooohhh... that's impressive. Yeah, renominating it is fine. I'd just do as you did before, but add a "2" after the title. So, for example, you'd create something like Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Geography by Ptolemy 2 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:07, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 December 2013

• WikiProject report: Babel Series: Tunisia on the French Wikipedia

• Traffic report: Hopper to the top

• Discussion report: Usernames, template data and documentation, Main page, and more

• News and notes: Nine new arbitrators announced

• Featured content: Triangulum, the most boring constellation in the universe

• Technology report: Introducing the GLAMWikiToolset

• Read this Signpost in full
• Single-page
• Unsubscribe
• EdwardsBot (talk) 06:54, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

FAC

Hi, can you review this nomination if you get some time. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 17:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Quick image check favour?

{{{2}}}

What do you think of the status / licensing of this image? I'd like to use it for Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 26, 2013 but I'm always a bit wary of taking images from places other than the FA in question without getting a second pair of eyes. Thanks, Bencherlite^Talk 19:41, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

• I wouldn't use it. That's a fairly professional looking image, from an editor with very few edits, and no EXIF data. Suspicious in the best of circumstances. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:14, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Freedom of speech portal for Featured candidate

I've nominated Portal:Freedom of speech for Featured quality consideration, discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Freedom of speech. — Cirt (talk) 04:48, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

AV-8B FAC

Hi Crisco 1492, due to your extensive FAC experience, I'm wondering if you are willing to have a look at McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II and provide some comments and insight at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II/archive2. Regards, --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 05:25, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

• I may, once I have time, but I am still in Jakarta and do not have a regular connection. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:27, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

• No worries. Thanks in advance. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 05:42, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Another image question ...

Hi Crisco, sorry I know you're really busy and sort of on a wiki-break at the moment but if you get the chance could you tell me if the license on this image [3] is okay for DYK? I sort of got my knuckles rapped over another image license recently so I'm weary of being in trouble again SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:54, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Weary or wary? :) Matty.007 17:36, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Wary - and now suitably chastised for brain and fingers on keyboard not being fully in synch (I guess I must also be too weary to think straight) SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

You'll be more wary next time. Matty.007 18:36, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

• File:Prince James Francis Edward Stuart by Anton Raphael Mengs.jpg is certainly PD. Mengs died almost 250 years ago, and this is a 2D reproduction of a 2D object (and thus the US does not recognise any new copyright for the photograph or scan). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:58, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Crisco! SagaciousPhil - Chat 06:46, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Joseph Ducreux

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Joseph Ducreux (French - Self-Portrait, Yawning - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:38, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

FAC for Lieutenant Governor of New Jersey

You do rather solid, detailed, insightful FAC reviews. If you have the time in the next few days, could you take a look at the FAC for Lieutenant Governor of New Jersey? I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions for improvement.--ColonelHenry (talk) 20:56, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

• As with the above three requests, I will try when I get back home from Jakarta. No guarantees either way though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:24, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Pengusulan AB

Bang Woodrich, dimohon untuk memberikan suara di sini, sini. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 06:32, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!
	May 2013 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals! All the best Gavin / SchroCat (talk) 20:39, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Schro! You too — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:00, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Chain Reaction (sculpture)

Crisco, I have no idea when you're returning from Jakarta, but in case it's relatively soon, there's a disagreement over a picture of a fairly recent public sculpture in the US and whether a picture of it is valid for use on DYK. Regardless, have a wonderful time—and, if you're still there, holiday—while you're there; I hope you find everything you need for your research. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:15, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

• Done, though Masem seems to have gotten there first. Lots for my thesis, and lots for Wikipedia. I think I now have the sources to bring Roekiah and D. Djajakusuma (at the very least) to FA. God knows I got another dozen pictures of Roekiah that we can use. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:09, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• Great! Thank you so much, and glad the time in Jakarta has been very productive. Best of luck with the future FACs! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:12, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Meng-update arsip di archive.org

Om Woodrich, sy tadi meng-update situs Pemerintah Provinsi Kalimantan Barat d Archive. Cuma, itu "kudet" (kurang update), mau sy update per-23 Desember 2013, sebagaimana d kalbarprov.go.id, kok sy gak bisa mengupdate versi 23 Des. 2013, om? Pertanyaan sy, bagaimana cara meng-update situs d archive.com, utk memperbaharui situs itu yg pernah ditulis sebelumnya. Ini adalah versi yg "kudet"-nya, om. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 13:00, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

• Sudah pernah menggunakan http://www.webcitation.org belum? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Pernah, om Woodrich prnah trangkan hal itu pd sy, cuma,,,, sy mmbca prmbritahuan bhw situs Webcitation.com itu mau ditutup gara2 kurang biaya. Makanya, om, sy bralih pake archive.com. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 02:28, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• Pemberitahuan tersebut sudah hilang dari situs mereka. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Oooo..... jadi, WebCite sdh "kaya" lagi, tak "hidup kekurangan" lagi? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 07:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• Nah, itu tidak bisa saya jawab. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:37, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Makanya, sy justru menghindari itu WebCite. Khawatir nanti jadi ditutup, eh.... rupanya situs2 yg dulu sy pernah arsip di situ malah hilang "ke laut", dan tak pernah kembali. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 07:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• Kalaupun mereka guling tikar, situs yang sudah diarsipkan tetap bisa diakses. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:41, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Gitu y, om? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 07:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas

“ Christ said, "I and my father are one", and you repeat it. Yet it has not helped mankind. For nineteen hundred years men have not understood that saying. They make Christ the saviour of men. He is God and we are worms! ” — Swami Vivekananda, Swami Vivekananda's quotes on Jesus Christ

Tito☸Dutta 17:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

A Holiday Turkey!

What's a holiday without a funny-tasting chicken? Most flavourful they are soonest after glaring directly into the twinkle of your eye.

Gobble gobble! Curly Turkey (gobble) 02:38, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Turkey! You too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:05, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

I wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2014! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! — ΛΧΣ21 Call me Hahc21 21:02, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Hahc! You too! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:06, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas! :-)

Happy Yuletides!

Merry Yuletides to you! (And a happy new year!)

~TheGeneralUser (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Hi Crisco, Wishing you a very Happy and Wonderful Merry Christmas! Hope you are having a great time with family and friends :-) Best wishes. ~TheGeneralUser (talk) 23:41, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks, and a merry Christmas to you and yours. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Banknotes

Hi Crisco-

The first batch of "earlier" Indonesian banknotes (1946-1948) can be found here. I've got about 80 or so to process. Not all the series are complete (the two posted are), but a nice assortment from most of the issues from the 1940's through 1970's. - Godot13 (talk) 03:49, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

• Those are beautiful. We really should have an article on the Java Bank (I think I started something in user space, but I'm usually drawn more to military history and popular culture). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
  • If you've got a draft going we can work on it... I can turn the images into a table to accompany the article... Just a thought.-Godot13 (talk) 20:39, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
    • I've got User:Crisco 1492/Java Bank. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:38, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
      • Looking around a bit. Take a look at De Javasche Bank (section) of this article and let me know if developing a separate article (without going into significant detail) would be duplicating effort...-Godot13 (talk) 23:02, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
        • That section is long enough that it would be best split (or merged into the article in my user space). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:00, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
          • Okay. A few references which may cover most of the bases: 1) A book on the De Javasche Bank, dated (1918), but good background; 2) official website of the bank containing an 8-file history; 3) a website giving the history of the bank officers; and 4) from the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank archives, a 1930 Bank of Java Annual Report (brief). When you get a chance (I know you're doing thesis research...), let me know what you think of these sources.--Godot13 (talk) 04:49, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
            • Very cool, all of the sources look useful. Here's hoping a stalker or two (or a stalkee perhaps) sees this. The Batavia (Jakarta) branch is now the Bank of Indonesia museum... if the weather clears up I may try and get a photograph. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:26, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
              • What have you ever needed my help for, Crisco? Drmies (talk) 13:11, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
                • LOL! Only when I went to leave a message did I understand why Drmies replied... There is also an article on nlwiki, but it's very brief.-Godot13 (talk) 19:21, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
                  • My good doctor, of course for reading Dutch! Well, you or Google translate...
                  • Godot: Yeah, I noticed. But something is better than nothing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:07, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
• Hi Crisco- I'm working up a draft of a banknote table that could possibly accompany an article. It may be over-inclusive right now but there is a 1947 series (Republik Indonesia) I haven't worked up yet that shows how currency was being issued by two banks simultaneously prior to the 1949 Java Bank nationalization.--Godot13 (talk) 06:14, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Quite nice. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, as from 1945 to 1949 both the Republican government and the Dutch colonial one (often as the Netherlands Indies Civil Administration) were vying for power, and both claiming sovereignty over the archipelago. It's particularly fun for writing articles like Djaoeh di Mata. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:36, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Hope you had a wonderful holiday and are heading into an excellent New Year! Very glad to have you back among us. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:05, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• <spooky voice>Among the living</spooky voice> Thanks, glad to be back... though yesterday I got to thinking the house spent the whole three weeks I was gone planning how to have its revenge on me. Electricity is still touch and go. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Yikes! I wouldn't want to be touched by electricity! (I would want it to touch the lights and the computer and keep the internet connection running, though.) Do you have a backup power supply that helps smooth out power availability?

I suppose now wouldn't be an ideal time to ask you to take a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Women in Philippine art, but it's been sitting for about four weeks, apparently waiting for a second opinion from an experienced DYK reviewer, so I'm hoping you can give an opinion when you get the chance. Thank you very much. (I had already asked Orlady for a similar favor a few hours ago, so with you back, I didn't have to ask her again.) BlueMoonset (talk) 04:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Weighed in. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

FLN

Hi Crisco, when you've got time, would you mind taking another look at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of currencies in Europe/archive1 please? I would quite like some action on the page, so that I can have more of a chance. Thanks, Matty.007 20:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Checkers speech

See footnote 58.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Alright. However, you seem to have taken more than you were supposed to... -1400 characters? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:37, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I noticed a couple of badly sourced things that slipped through, and that really had no place in the article. Fairly POV.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:54, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Alright, fair enough. Was just curious to see that disappear without a mention — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:08, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• I was more concerned about addressing your point, actually, the others I quickly saw as junk stuff. I try to keep up with all edits to articles I'm concerned with, but it's an imperfect science, especially when I'm out of touch for a few days or stuff gets covered over on my watchlist by subsequent edits. Haven't noticed much film stuff moving, how's that going?--Wehwalt (talk) 12:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Three weeks with very little access to internet will do that to a person (i.e. not much time online). However, I have an absolute wealth of photographs from the 1940s through 1950s that I digitized, so our articles will be a lot better illustrated. I also think I have enough to bring Roekiah and D. Djajakusuma to FAC, once I utilize the new sources. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:33, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Excellent, archive delving is a joy indeed. Amazing what is out there that no one had any idea was PD.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:20, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Indeed... just getting access to magazines from the period is a blessing, considering how few libraries seem to stock them. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

POTD January 11

Hi Crisco- Would you mind having a look at this description just to make sure that it is okay/appropriate. The statement about Hamilton being the only non-native member of the Founding Fathers is cited in the article, and I verified the source article directly for accuracy. I'm open to making any changes you suggest. Also, do I need to put this info into another area? Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 19:58, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Yup... somehow I've already messed this up by putting a commons POTD template on it... oops.-Godot13 (talk) 20:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• LOL. I've copyedited the blurb a little. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:27, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Very much appreciated.-Godot13 (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Don't mention it — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:POTD/2013-12-28

Hi Crisco, and welcome back. I (hopefully) improved the caption on tomorrow's POTD (actually just before you created the protected version) to replace trivial measurements with a better summary of the article. I don't want to break anything, so could you check the new caption and copy it to Template:POTD_protected/2013-12-28? Many thanks, ~HueSatLum 01:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Sure, makes for easier reading. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:29, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

The imagemap on Template:POTD protected/2013-12-28 contains a wrong link to the firs file. It should be "File:Arborophila_brunneopectus_male_-_Kaeng_Krachan.jpg" instead of "https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arborophila_brunneopectus_male_-_Kaeng_Krachan.jpg". Could you fix this? Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 01:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

• Done. Thanks for catching this. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:40, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 December 2013

• Recent research: Cross-language editors, election predictions, vandalism experiments

• Featured content: Drunken birds and treasonous kings

• Discussion report: Draft namespace, VisualEditor meetings

• WikiProject report: More Great WikiProject Logos

• News and notes: IEG round 2 funding rewards diverse ambitions

• Technology report: OAuth: future of user designed tools

• Read this Signpost in full
• Single-page
• Unsubscribe
• EdwardsBot (talk) 05:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Undeletion request for Buddha Bar

Greetings! Can you undelete Buddha Bar? I'd like to move it to draft space and try to rehabilitate it. Cheers! bd2412 T 02:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

• Which version? That article's been deleted four times already. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:56, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
  • I went ahead and gave it my own best shot. The draft is at Draft:Buddha Bar. Cheers again! bd2412 T 05:48, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
    • That looks pretty good, actually. Shame most of the sources don't discuss the chain in-depth. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:34, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

hey

have you seen this one around at all? [Degroot, Véronique Myriam Yvonne (2009), Candi, space and landscape : a study on the distribution, orientation and spatial organization of Central Javanese temple remains, Leiden Institute for Area Studies, SAS Indonesie, Faculty of Arts, Leiden University, retrieved 30 December 2013] Candi-Space-Landscape-Distribution-Organization (wow just triggered an anti amazon filter message blacklist message same colour as your talk page message - sheehs - pretty cool for this time of night...) satusuro 15:40, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

• Doesn't KITLV have a downloadable version of that? I seem to recall downloading it. LOL on the Amazon message — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:44, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

yup - when i saw you were editing sambisari a vague search came up with her phd and yes https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/handle/1887/13781 its there - as for sheesh blacklisted stuff, give me sate kambing with peanut sauce anytime... satusuro 15:51, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

• Yum. I prefer beef though. They often don't serve the nut sauce with goat anymore. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:58, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Infobox Photo Discussion

Hi. Can you offer your opinion in this discussion regarding the better photo for an article Infobox? Thanks, and Happy Holidays. Nightscream (talk) 23:47, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Crisco. Thanks for participating in the discussion. Sorry to bug you again, but two other photos have been added to the discussion since you voiced your preference. Could you post again to indicate whether your previously-stated preference remains the same? Thanks, and have a Happy New Year! Nightscream (talk) 18:28, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

GA deletion

I'd like to do the GA review on United Nations. I noticed you deleted a previous review only days ago. Why? Chris Troutman (talk) 01:01, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Reviewer and main contributor had an interaction ban, so the would-be reviewer withdrew. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:03, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

not quite proddable

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Alyssa_Saufika_Umari a vast sea of unverifiable over-detail with not a cite in sight, please check... maybe all pinch from a website dalam bahhassaa yang lain daripada inggeris? satusuro 06:38, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Did you try BLP prod? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:02, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• oops - saw that, thanks, jelas sekarang... satusuro 07:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

FLC images

Hi Crisco, I'm sure you've seen that I've got Bibliography of E.W. Hornung at FLC at the moment. All the images on the page are newly uploaded to Commons (by me), and I wonder if you wouldn't mind running your eye over them to make sure they are all OK? Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• What's the status in Britain? You'd need to know the cover artist for that, usually. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:28, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Should be OK: they are all old enough to pass in the UK (I think), and I've tried to use US editions wherever possible to limit the double status clearance. - SchroCat (talk) 09:49, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Also, make sure the date parameters are filled in correctly. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:29, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• I thought they were—unless I'm missing something obvious (which is highly likely!) - SchroCat (talk) 09:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Well, some of them say "2013-..." for instance (File:Notes of a Camp Follower.png) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:44, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Ah - that was dropped in by the upload wizard (and I thought that meant it was right). They'll all be wrong on that score, so I'll tweak accordingly (and presume that just a year is sufficient, rather than a more specific date). Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 12:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Right, just the year. The date is probably from EXIF data or something, but that's certainly not what you're looking for. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:10, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• All sorted - it's the top ten uploads on this lot. The most recent book was 1919 and all bar one (I think) are the US editions. The single British work is A Bride from the Bush – 1890.PNG: does this also need a UK tag too? - SchroCat (talk) 12:17, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• It should, yes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia featured picture / File:Burj Khalifa.jpg

Hi Crisco, Could you let me know how I can find when the Wikipedia featured picture / File:Burj Khalifa.jpg will be listed in the Wikipedia Today's featured picture? Warm regards --Donaldtong (talk) 01:21, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

The following message came from Armbrust talk page;

Hi Armbrust, Would you give me a tip of how I can find the Wikipedia featured picture / File:Burj Khalifa.jpg will be or will not be selected in the Wikipedia Today's featured picture? Thanks in advance --Donaldtong (talk) 07:14, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

The featured pictures for the Picture of the day panel of the Main Page are selected (mostly) in the order they were promoted. I don't see any reason, why this picture shouldn't be selected, but I have no idea, when this will happen. The selection of the images is done by Crisco 1492, so it would be better if you would ask him about this. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 08:43, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Armbrust for letting me know. The ping didn't work, for some reason. If it goes in accordance with order of promotion, sometime in 2015 is most likely. However, if you want it run earlier just let me know. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Crisco for your replied answer. Would it be possible if this image File:Burj Khalifa.jpg can run earlier in the Wikipedia Today's featured picture? Thanks in advance --Donaldtong (talk) 13:46, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Certainly. Any particular date in mind?14:00, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Would it be possible to be listed on 2 November 2014? Many thanks --Donaldtong (talk) 23:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
    • Sure. It's scheduled here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:38, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
      • Awesome! Thank you so much Crisco! May I take this opportunity to say, Wishing you to have a great and happy new year! --Donaldtong (talk) 09:00, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
        • Thanks, you too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:02, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Supreme Court of the Republic of Texas

Crisco, it looks like this one is turning toxic, and there's been a call for an admin. Maybe I shouldn't be the one to go looking for one, but I'd like it to be someone familiar with DYK. Or should I have gone directly to WT:DYK with the admin request? Please let me know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:32, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Replied. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:42, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thank you for stopping by. I think, however, this one's going to end up at WT:DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

PS: Happy New Year! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:25, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

• Likely... hope it's not ruining your night. Happy new year to you too! I had a fun enough one, though 2014 has been boring so far. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:32, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks for stepping in. That hook was pretty much what I had in mind when I made my suggestions earlierbut he was damned if he'd listen to me. (I'm so tired of it that I'm going to ignore that December 1836 to January 1840 isn't what I'd call four years, but it doesn't surprise me that he doesn't care.) I don't know why I'm butting heads with people this week; Victuallers has his knickers in a twist over an approval he made that I went to promote but found I couldn't when I checked the article. Maybe I need to take a break from DYK—I can't believe I was typing this while 2013 turned to 2014 here and I didn't even notice. Not really how I wanted to start 2014, but I'm definitely hoping it gets better and better from here. Come to think of it, being free of that mess is a good augur... BlueMoonset (talk) 05:05, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

• Three years it is then (I was going by years alone, but you're right... it's much closer to three). Get some sleep, rest, watch some Glee... you deserve it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:04, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Crisco 1492!

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Crisco 1492: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, BusterD (talk) 06:09, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2014}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

• Thanks Buster> — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:55, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

FAC for How Brown Saw the Baseball Game

OK, you said you wanted to be notified when I renominated this, so here it is. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 01:31, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

• Awesome, be right there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Greetings!

	Happy New Year, 2014
	From Amandajm (talk) 10:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC) Wells Cathedral, Somerset, photographed by Rod on a December morning

• Thanks Amanda! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:25, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK

Thanks for the DYK review. Any reason for the AGF tick? Thanks, Matty.007 10:31, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

• None in particular, no. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:32, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Bank Indonesia 5 Rupiah (1957)

Happy New Year, and thanks for your help.-Godot13 (talk) 08:27, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks Godot. Now that is a very nice scan. Wow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, well worth waiting for.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:16, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for all of your work

Thank you very much for all of your work on Indonesian films, &c. I love your seemingly regular DYK articles on these topics. and congratulations on getting Article of the Day for Gagak Item. Keep up the good work. —  AjaxSmack  22:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks Ajax! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:43, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Your nom

I see it. I am holding off on reviews until at least this weekend. I wind up not that far from you on this trip, globally speaking, as I will be in Canberra and Sydney at the end of Feb/beginning of March.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:43, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

• No worries. Have a safe trip (and if you are in the area [a bit closer than Oz], feel free to drop by! I have plenty of coins if you want to collect 'em, though probably too damaged to be worth anything later). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:06, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't think I own very much in the Indonesian sphere, there might be a couple of aluminum pieces in my "junk bag" (sorry). I think I have a Netherlands East Indies 1 cent with the hole in it somewhere around, but I'd have to hunt for it. I'll be in Singapore in April 2015, that's in your ballpark. Lafayette dollar, the first of the two coin articles that person from Porlock on my talk kept distracting me from, is in mainspace, if you want to do the DYK, which should probably be about it being the first US coin to feature a US citizen.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:41, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

• Yeah, I know, they aren't very good quality. But the 1,000 rupiah piece is pretty decent, and the pre-2000 stuff seems to have been made out of something other than aluminium. Will take a look. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:45, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

• I think it was from the 1950s or 1960s. I think they sold a lot of them to companies that marketed them to kids, like the Littleton Coin Co. Low denomination. On my one very brief visit to Indonesia, to an industrial island near Singapore, I saw no coins, everything was paper money.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

• Really? If it was Batam, I can kinda understand that (it's a relatively expensive place to live, and the coins used to be a maximum of 500 rupiah [5 cents, give or take]). Interesting! I rather like the old 50-rupiah coins (this one)... nice design, I think, though quite small. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:57, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Congrats on the TFA Crisco and Happy New Year!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:50, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks Blofeld! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:06, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
• From me too, Crisco. Looks like a fun flick. Have you seen all those movies you've written up? Have a great 2014, Drmies (talk) 14:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Sadly, no Drmies. The ones I've been writing about are lost (or at least none of the sources I've seen know where they are). Djaoeh Dimata is at Sinematek Indonesia, but when I asked they told me it wasn't in viewing condition. The last film FA I wrote on something I've seen was Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI, which was a... lengthy... work. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:53, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
    • Oops, yes, I forgot about your ongoing fight against oblivion. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. I hope to get back to our bird at some point; I got the sources in my office, but internet access at home has been spotty: the cable guy is coming this afternoon. Drmies (talk) 16:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
      • Thanks, Dr. I really wish I could help more than I have so far. At least I'll be able to copyedit for y'all. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:45, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

UK signatures

Hi Crisco, just looked at File:Sheridan Smith signature.png: I thought signatures from the UK were not allowed? - SchroCat (talk) 20:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

• Since it is uploaded on the English Wikipedia, UK copyright law doesn't matter too much. The important thing is that it's public domain in the US. Now, as to whether it is or not... that's not my expertise. I suspect so, though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 01 January 2014

• Traffic report: A year stuck in traffic

• Arbitration report: Examining the Committee's year

• In the media: Does Wikipedia need a medical disclaimer?

• Book review: Common Knowledge: An Ethnography of Wikipedia

• News and notes: The year in review

• Discussion report: Article incubator, dates and fractions, medical disclaimer

• WikiProject report: Where Are They Now? Fifth Edition

• Featured content: 2013—the trends

• Technology report: Looking back on 2013

• Read this Signpost in full
• Single-page
• Unsubscribe
• EdwardsBot (talk) 05:20, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Rachmat Kartolo

Hello! Your submission of Rachmat Kartolo at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Lajbi ^{Holla @ me • CP} 10:14, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Commented. Lajbi ^{Holla @ me • CP} 10:52, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

• No need to ping me, it's on my WP:WATCHLIST. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:54, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Crisco 1492. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know.
Message added 11:55, 5 January 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Matty.007 11:55, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Rachmat Kartolo

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 6 January 2014 (UTC)