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Category:Relocated schools

About Category:Relocated schools, was this intended only for schools that moved from one city to another, or is it for schools which move to another campus in another location but within the same city or same U.S./Canadian school district? WhisperToMe (talk) 13:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

I created it because a number of schools founded in London in the late middle ages or early modern era as charitable foundations moved out to the surrounding counties in the late 19th century, partly as a result of the Clarendon Commission, or the early-mid 20th century (for more space?). I had in mind a more significant relocation than just a new building next door. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 14:11, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
as an aside - In some cases the move also came with a change from public school (private) to state school (public) and the alumni lists reflect this - Parmiter's School, St Clement Danes School. In one case (Royal Caledonian School) a boarding school became just the boarding facility, using local schools for the education component. oops forgot to @WhisperToMe: Cabayi (talk) 14:22, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification! I'm trying to figure out how to apply this category to schools in the United States and other countries. Several schools in the US moved campuses (not on the same lot with a different address, but a new lot in another neighborhood/area) but may or may not remain in the same municipality or in an unincorporated area (not in any municipality), or may or may not be in the same county (some cities are within multiple counties and many school districts serve all or portions of one or more counties). There's also the consideration of which school district a public school is in; the board of education of a school district operates the school, so it won't move beyond the school district's boundaries unless the said district merged with another school district.
Then there's China, which has a different municipal structure: prefecture-level cities seem to be the equivalent of U.S. counties, and within those are urban districts (one usually has the seat of the prefecture-level city), county-level cities (they are not the primary urban area of the prefecture-level city), and/or rural counties.
WhisperToMe (talk) 14:28, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
One more example is Japan: In the case of Tokyo Metropolis, it is not a single municipality but the equivalent of a U.S. county. The main urban area 23 special wards of Tokyo consists of several "districts" that are like their own municipalities. Do we count the 23 special wards as one city (like London or New York)? And what about the suburban municipalities in Tokyo Metropolis to the west (West Tokyo)? Count them separately from the 23 special wards? WhisperToMe (talk) 14:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
WhisperToMe, don't set too much store on London. The City of London is a very, very small part of London and each of the 32 boroughs (plus the City) is its own local education authority since the inner boroughs' partnership as ILEA was broken up nearly 40 years ago. And the LEA concept isn't what it was since the UK govt started enticing schools to become academies. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 13:59, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the notice! If anything it makes London's situation sounds like Tokyo's: each of the 23 special wards has its own education authority for elementary + junior high school (the metropolitan government operates public high schools). I am aware "The City of London" is just a small part of "Greater London"... but yes, it can get confusing for Americans. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:28, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Ryan Ashley

Hello Cabayi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ryan Ashley, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: (co)writing and producing a lot of songs for and/or with notable artists is clearly a claim of significance. Thank you. SoWhy 11:43, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

SoWhy, thanks for the heads-up. Being sourced to qobuz.com (a sales site rather than an independent source), ascap.com (a trade listing), and youtube (WP:UGC) is beyond my view of what might be considered a credible claim of significance. Cabayi (talk) 13:08, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
I assume you do know that the quality of the sourcing is not relevant for A7? Otherwise, badly sourced articles would be more eligible than unsourced articles. It's especially irrelevant, when a very short search is sufficient to verify one of those claims, e.g. being featured on a charting song or co-writing songs for MNEK. Even though WP:CSD does not explicitly feature a section like WP:BEFORE, I think it's reasonable to expect taggers to at least try googling once when doubting the credibility of the claims of significance, don't you? Regards SoWhy 13:57, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of SIX5SIX India

Hello Cabayi. I am ok with the deletion. But SIX5SIX India is a legitimate organization, I had just created the page today. I also want to inform you that, I don't operate through multiple user accounts and the user you had mentioned is a stranger to me. FootballExclusive (talk) 12:45, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

FootballExclusive, Then let's put it down as an unfortunate coincidence that you created SIX5SIX India just a week after Sachinjadhav0640's Six5Six was deleted, and that you should upload the company's logo at File:Sxx5six Logo 1.png so soon after Sachinjadhav0640's multiple copyright violations of the company's logo were cleared up, File:Six5Six Logo.svg, File:Six5Six Dec 2018.jpg, and File:Six5Six Sports India 2018.jpg. And that both you and Sachinjadhav0640 should have been intent on inserting 656 into as many articles as possible. Very unfortunate, indeed. Happy editing, Cabayi (talk) 13:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, indeed a very unfortunate coincidence. My intention of creating that unfortunate article: I didn't care about that organization, when it sponsored two football clubs in India. But I felt the need of an article, when they started to sponsor our national football team. Hope that some one puts a article of them in a correct way. Thank you.FootballExclusive (talk) 14:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Kgm2019

(Kgm2019 (talk) 12:02, 6 January 2019 (UTC))I saw your message but the thing is I have long lost access those accounts but I have no connection the accounts you listed

That puppetry we tripped over

I just wanted to drop a note of moral support here. The Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations page is a little intimidating at first glance but all they really need is pretty much exactly what you posted in your message on my talk page, you have it well-organized already. – Athaenara ✉ 16:24, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Athaenara Thanks for the support. I'm a frequent flyer at SPI but I try to err on the cautious side. This case, while I'm convinced they're all related, I wasn't sure they'd actually broken the rules. They're editing one-at-a-time (no overlapping edits), none have been blocked (yet)... I just wanted to be sure I wasn't getting carried away with having spotted them. I'll file an SPI. Cabayi (talk) 17:32, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Andrea Desmond

Hello Cabayi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Andrea Desmond, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: text is not promotional and contains a *lot* of claims of signifance, such as: signed to notable labels, trained by notable artist, nominated for notable award, opened for notable artist, writes music for notable label. Thank you. SoWhy 10:19, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Hello Cabbie, you just reviewed a page that I created. Can there be anything else that can be added or subtracted to make the page Legal Initiative for Forest and Environment (LIFE) better? I am a new Wikipedian. Your valuable suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sayantan life (talk) 12:54, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
You're advertising for your employer Legal Initiative for Forest and Environment (LIFE), and trying to disrupt the advertising aspect (G11) of the speedy deletion, contrary to all the notices placed on your talkpage. Cabayi (talk) 12:58, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
I've issued a COI and disruptive editing warning on his talk page. I was thinking about an immediate indef, but he seems to have made some minor edits elsewhere, so I've given him some rope. If he edits again without declaring his obvious COI, I'll indef. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:48, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Nomada Studio

Hello Cabayi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Nomada Studio, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G11 explicitly requires the text to be promotional in tone, not the intent. And developing a notable game indicates significance. Try WP:ATD-M maybe? Thank you. SoWhy 09:18, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

SoWhy There's no claim other than Gris (video game) in the article or on their website. I see no content that needs merging. Accordingly I've redirected the title. Cabayi (talk) 13:10, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

CopyVio re The Coroner (book)

It's a fair cop! I confess I didn't check for copyright issues when I lifted a whole load of (comment-hidden) text from the Matthew Hall (writer) article- I was concerned about a certain amount of 'puffery'/ 'sales-pitch' in some places but I hadn't got around to re-phrasing all these passages in my own words. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yadsalohcin (talk • contribs) 10:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Yadsalohcin, thanks for the pointer to the source. I've marked it for cleanup. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 11:55, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: BBC investigation into pre-pubescent rape evidence failures

Despite your presistent assertions on my talk page that my article BBC investigation into pre-pubescent rape evidence failures "appears to be a direct copy from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45335980", the article appears to be no such thing to anyone who bothers to look at it for even a second.

Instead, it includes some direct quotes from named individuals and phrases such as "contamination of forensic evidence" and "independently reviews forensic evidence for defence and prosecution cases", which were difficult to rewrite without losing or significantly distorting their meaning. These reused phrases may have been permissible under WP:LIMITED.

If you believed they weren't, the correct response under WP:G12 would have been "for equivocal cases that do not meet speedy deletion criteria (such as ... close paraphrasing), the article or the appropriate section should be blanked with {{subst:Copyvio|url=insert URL here}}". You absolutely did not have grounds for impatiently destroying this acticle by wrongly labeling it "a direct copy".

Your admission that you mindlessly outsourced a simple comparison to "copyright detector" software instead of personally reading my article shows you consider very young children who suffered the unimaginable horrors of being viciously raped then hopelessly failed by investigators to be worth neither your time nor space on Wikipedia. Tots & little ones matter! (talk) 01:14, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Tots & little ones matter!, I said "A score of 75% on the copyright detector shows you're copying the text". I didn't say that was the only check I performed.
You managed to quote from your sources in Berkhamsted child rape network without directly copying large chunks of text. Why can't you do the same in this article?
You're wikilawyering beyond the usual skills of someone with just 19 edits to their credit. Do you have another account? Cabayi (talk) 10:04, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Actually, Cabayi, it seems that the Berkhamsted page has its problems too – I've just blanked and listed it. It seems to me that our reviewing process may have slipped a cog there. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:41, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Justlettersandnumbers, thanks for the heads up. FYI, there's another discussion on the matter on Anthony Appleyard's talk page. Cabayi (talk) 14:03, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, yes, saw that too. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:06, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Nongkhae F.C.

Hello Cabayi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Nongkhae F.C., a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Playing in a notable league indicates importance/significance (WP:CCSI#TEAM). Thank you. SoWhy 08:17, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

SoWhy thanks for quoting your own essay. The relevant topic-specific guidance is Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability#Club notability. Nongkhae F.C. has not played in a national league, the two leagues given are both regional, 2016 Thai Division 3 Tournament Central Region & 2018 Thailand Amateur League Bangkok Metropolitan Region, and the club has not played in the Thai FA Cup. Please reconsider. Cabayi (talk) 08:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Again, A7 is not about notability, which you should be aware of. That's not citing "my own essay" but the policy that has existed for longer than you and I were active editors. And the deletion policy, WP:ATD especially, says don't delete what can be handled by editing. So my question to you: If the club is mentioned in the article about the league, why not redirect there instead? Regards SoWhy 08:35, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
SoWhy As soon as I pressed publish I knew I was going to get the significance / notability message :-) I'll take it to AFD.
why not redirect? - because football teams get promoted and relegated, and a redirect needs to have more validity than just until the end of the season. Cabayi (talk) 09:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
SoWhy No decline notice for Yingcharoen F.C.? Is the CSDH playing up? Cabayi (talk) 09:19, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Weird. I selected the notice. Possibly an edit conflict. Next time I'll try to leave some time between messages to the same editor. Thanks for the heads up! Regards SoWhy 09:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Help adjust page

Hello Cabayi ,thanks for helping move my page I created about Abigaba Cuthbert Mirembe. He represents Kibale constituency and NOT "Kinbale"as indicated on the page. Help edit changes.I'm Agaba Perez (talk) 12:39, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

??? I'd have sworn that the source at parliament.go.ug said Kinbale yesterday! Kibale is a redirect to Kibaale. Which spelling is right? There's nothing stopping you from making the change - just be careful, use the preview, and don't chop the page off halfway through again :-) Cabayi (talk) 14:32, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Tradimo Interactive ApS

Hello, can you tell me why did you delete the page of Tradimo ? I am quite new here, and i thought i bring enough references and write an article with quite neutral style, with no promotion or advertising, can you maybe move it to Draft so i can improve it more ? :) Regards, FlowerTeam25 (talk) 20:52, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

You'd have to ask the deleting admin for that. Cabayi (talk) 22:15, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Could you check my talk page?

I tried to create a school which actually exists in negombo (Prominent school) While this was rejected saying that it NEEDS to be covered by third party independent sources the page was deleted. Over your advice, I requested deletion for School articles that has zero references. And check what happened — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luewia (talk • contribs) 10:01, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Luewia, there's a big difference to pointing you to the how-to page and advising you to do it. Your problems with your article aren't a reason to delete other articles.
Anyway, now you know why nobody else put them up for deletion... But you're probably still blinded by your conflict of interest and still can't see it.
If your article had been written neutrally, hadn't included a load of links to affiliated websites, if you hadn't tainted it with your conflict of interest... who knows? Secondary/High schools are generally notable. Those that are privately owned businesses may be seen as advertising.
Since, as I recall, it was a religious school, I'll point you at some advice you may be more receptive to - Matthew 7:1–5. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 10:20, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Outing

I know you meant well by pointing out a connection regarding the Orchid Software and users, but such edits fall afoul of WP:OUTING. I know the connection. You know the connection. But since they haven't stated the connection and published it, we can't. I'll have to oversight the edit. Hope you understand. And it's easily done, I've done it myself in the past when it seems so blatantly obvious. Canterbury Tail talk 14:04, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Canterbury Tail, OK, message received. If you're oversighting then there a several more in my past that will also need oversight. As I recall it's always been as a follow-on comment on a {{uw-coi}}. User talk:Omgjaswant, User talk:SimonRedfern... Regards, Cabayi (talk) 22:46, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
& User talk:Constantin Turmac. Cabayi (talk) 22:56, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
& User talk:Aparashar, User talk:Acjwatt, User talk:Jasmine.louise, User talk:Majones1987, User talk:Adamcattel. That's all I can see going back to the start of last year. Cabayi (talk) 10:34, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Canterbury Tail, oops, I missed User talk:Sayantan life. Cabayi (talk) 07:24, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
At this point I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just something to bear in mind for the future. It's hard, I know, I've fallen afoul of it myself in the past especially when things are obvious. Canterbury Tail talk 13:26, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Robert McClenon. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, List of novae in 2019, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

Robert McClenon (talk) 08:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Robert McClenon, just one question - Why? You haven't tagged the article, commented on its talk page or left a note on its author's talk page. What do you expect to change if all you've done is unpatrol it?
Whatever your problem with the 2019 page may be, it'll probably apply to the 2018 page too. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 09:34, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
Oops. I was trying to mark it as reviewed, but it was apparently reviewed by someone else when I checked it, so that the action of the check button was opposite than what I intended. I will approve it. Robert McClenon (talk) 11:23, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
Hey, it happens. No worries. The only downside is that I've now got buttons on my mind. ;-) Cabayi (talk) 11:27, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

For some reason all USGS links return "The specified URL cannot be found", not just the one used for Epoufette Island. If you know of a fix for this, or if it is just temporary, let me know. If in fact it is permanent, that would be a lot of bad links. Fondycardinals (talk) 15:47, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Fondycardinals, Maybe it's on shutdown? Cabayi (talk) 18:18, 25 January 2019 (UTC) ... just checked usgs.gov, it is. Cabayi (talk) 18:20, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Danish Constituent Assembly

Hello Cabayi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Danish Constituent Assembly, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: 1848 Danish Constituent Assembly election is about the election. This article is about the assembly that was formed from that election. This article is not one that "does not expand upon, detail or improve information within any existing article". In text and subject this sufficiently different enough to avoid WP:A10 deletion. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 09:40, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Apologies for the boldness (no, not that WP:BOLD) of this above message - that's what the script does. It could be argued that the content this article should be in the 1848 Danish Constituent Assembly election#Aftermath section. 100% fine with me if you want to contest this. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:13, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Shirt58, I think, on reflection, I'd argue all the material should be histmerged into 1848 Danish Constituent Assembly. Putting everything under the election title seems misplaced when not all of the members were elected. However, the material in Ramblersen2's Danish Constituent Assembly needs to be fully translated first. Cabayi (talk) 17:25, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Ramblersen2 took the discussion to Talk:Danish Constituent Assembly#Copied comment from talk page. Closing & archiving. Cabayi (talk) 08:22, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Diligence

The Barnstar of Diligence
For checking sources and making sure all links work. Fondycardinals (talk) 19:53, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I expected your Guidance

Hello Cabayi and thanks for your answer for Draft:Alliance School Kermanshah. Per your former advice for Alliance school in Tehran, I prepared everything for Alliance Kermanshah but as soon as i clicked publish for the first sentence your note came up that this article is ALREADY in draft. You didn't give me any chance to continue even with the "in use" sign I had put there. Anyway you leave me no choice but to continue it in draft, but I expected your help and guidance.Wish you success. Alex-h (talk) 23:45, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Alex-h How often do you expect to be given the same advice - start in draftspace until it's ready - by me:
and others:
??? The template {{in use}} is not magic fairydust. The article still needs to adhere to the wiki's standards. -- Cabayi (talk) 18:55, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you - learning

Hi Cabayi - i appreciate the feedback and guidance. I appreciate you sending first article materials and when i take my next shot at a new page i'll make sure it adheres to all expectations. Until then i'll keep editing and contributing where i can. Best Slevison (talk) 19:19, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Page on Tyler Freeman

Once Tyler plays for SKC's Senior team then should I re-create the page? Gatorinator (talk) 16:41, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Gatorinator, That would be great... unless he becomes notable for something other than football in the meantime. Cabayi (talk) 18:13, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

"This flag template looks so strange"

Yes, I know it looks messed up.

#bodyContent a[title="User:Aaxelpediaa"] { background-color: #0000ff; color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; (talk) 10:03, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Amir Ahmad Chowdhury Ratan and Amir Ahmed Chowdhury Ratan

You have prodded one of these for possible deletion. I have cut the waffle and copyvio out of the other. This not just the same person (article and editor), but it looks to me like an attempt to circumvent possible deletion of the subject, who is possibly not notable. Do you have any ideas how to deal with this duplication? Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 14:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Acabashi, I would...
If anything survives, deal with the copyvio using {{copyvio-revdel  |url= URLofCopiedWebsite  
|start= OldestRevisionToBeDeleted  |end= NewestRevisionToBeDeletedOptional  }} on the article, and {{subst:cclean}} on the talk page or use User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js if you have it installed. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 17:16, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 17:22, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
And given the edit summary on the initial version of ed, give Nowbo a {{uw-coi}} - done. Cabayi (talk) 17:24, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

SPI clerking

Hi –

I see your interest in becoming an SPI clerk, and after some discussion with the other functionaries, I'm willing to take you on as a clerk trainee. Would you like to work with me? We'll proceed at your own pace, no pressure other than we currently have ten gazillion clerk requests that I expect you to take care of in the first 48 hours after we begin. (Kidding. I do a lot of that.) My last and only clerk trainee was Sir Sputnik, and he turned out pretty awesome. :-) The other clerks will also pitch in and help if we have questions, or if you'd like another perspective on something.

I won't be able to begin your training in earnest until the end of next week due to some previous commitments, but there are some preliminaries we can get out of the way. First, please be sure you're ready to make a commitment to us. It's not indentured servitude or anything, but we don't want to spend two or three months training you only for you to ghost on us. (You're obviously free to change your mind at any time.) Second, it's not exactly like being a CU or arb, but clerking opens you up to scrutiny on- and off-wiki that we as CUs and arbs are unable to prevent – this kind of thing, for example. There are other spellings of my name with similar, um, issues. The third-party Wikipedia/Wikimedia criticism sites will also start to pay closer attention to you and your edits, though not to the extent that they watch admins and functionaries. It is what it is and we usually have a lot of laughs about the username stuff, but if you have a thin skin about that kind of thing, maybe clerking isn't for you.

If you'd like to start, let me know and I'll set up a page where we can work. We're looking forward to having you as a member of the SPI team. :-) Katietalk 01:52, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

KrakatoaKatie, that would be awesome. The timing works for me as I'm away from home 'til the middle of next week. As for the name calling, I'm aware and generally find it says more about the name-caller than anybody else.
At the risk of sounding like a reality TV contestant, I'm looking forward to the journey. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 08:58, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Awesome! I've created User:Cabayi/Clerking, which will be our workspace. I've put your first steps there. I'll be available today, Wednesday, and Friday this week (traveling Tuesday and Thursday), then I should be around consistently after that for a couple of weeks. Don't be afraid to ask me or anyone else for help if you have questions. See you soon. :-) Katietalk 19:29, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

AfC help desk

Hi Cabayi, Thanks to for restoring it and informing me of the above page which I have accidentally remove the sections. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:05, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Question

Hello.

I'm sorry. I'm a bit confused with this talk thing here on Wikipedia. I sent you an email and I apologize. Just now I figured out that I can talk to you here. Sorry once again.

I wanted to ask regarding my page WorldHotels. If I disclose my affiliation with the company, would the text be good enough to get approved? No point in creating a new page if you are going to delete it as that would only waste our time and I don't want to for both sides. Please let me know.

Regards, Kristijan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristijanwh (talk • contribs) 10:14, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Kristijanwh, there are a couple of issues there...
If you want to take another stab at it, read the guidance in the welcome message on your talk page, read WP:YFA, WP:NCORP, and WP:AFC. Start with a draft, Draft:WorldHotels, and submit it for review. Don't put it in mainspace yourself.
Your writing style needs to change too. This is an encyclopedia, not a brochure. This also means that we need to see why the rest of the world might consider the topic notable, not why WorldHotels' marketing department considers the firm notable. This requires reliable, verifiable, independent sources.
It's quite possible that you're too close to the subject and your conflict of interest will prevent you writing objectively, but you're welcome to try. Cabayi (talk) 10:43, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

OK, thank you very much. It makes sense. I will try it again once I read everything you provided me with and see what I can do. Thank you and have a nice day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristijanwh (talk • contribs) 10:45, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

AlexBd25

Hey, I just wanted to point out that AlexBd25 is probably very young (pre-teen, even). The design document photos he added to his draft are almost identical to design documents my 10-year-old son makes as a hobby. I think we should exercise a bit more patience with him; we might get a new WP editor out of it. I mean, there's no chance he gets his article, however much forum shopping he does, so there's no real risk in humoring him. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 17:41, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

MjolnirPants, I commend your patience. Your point makes me wonder how Alex's parents handle being played off, one against the other? Here's hoping you're right to anticipate some productivity. Cabayi (talk) 17:51, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
I don't know if you're a parent or not, but I am, and let me assure you: playing one's parents off against each other seems to be a universal occurrence. This seems to be especially true for children who have realized that they're smarter than most; they try to use those smarts to get their way, not realizing that "able to outsmart a 10-year-old" doesn't mean "able to outsmart adults".
I'm planning on dropping in on Alex from time to time. Ask for some help fixing some video game articles and the like, to steer them away from working on their draft. Cross your fingers and knock on wood, for me. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 18:02, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Pages of Helmut Fischer GMBH and Fischer Measurement technologies India Private Limited

We have received the instruction to delete the pages created for Helmut Fischer GMBH and Fischer Measurement technologies India Private Limited although I am trying to get it approved by giving all kind of references which are available. It's just that I wanted to get the company page up on the wiki search and hence I was trying again and again. I have seen many other pages on the wiki with hardly any reference such as "SPECTRO Analytical Instruments" with none of its reference working but still approved as Wikipedia article/page. Despite the company being Notable enough with many independent references, we are not able to make the page live on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vijayrai90 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • "We"? - read WP:NOSHARING.
  • You were asked on 23 October, on your talk page, to declare your conflict of interest. You didn't.
  • You have repeatedly failed to fix the problems in your drafts and either created another name with a variant on the name or created an article directly showing contempt for the editors who gave you advice.
  • If you truly believe the article SPECTRO Analytical Instruments should not exist then you are free to nominate it for deletion. If you're just trying to bring down your competitors, don't.
I volunteer my time to help create an encyclopedia, not to help companies advertise. Cabayi (talk) 07:44, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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Regarding edits you reverted

Hi Cabayi,

You recently reverted some edits of mine that appeared to constitute vandalism, and nominated an article I created for speedy deletion. First of all, I'm terribly sorry about what appeared to be vandalism. I have a Chrome extension installed which replaces all instances of "cloud" with "butt" on all websites I visit, but it is meant to be read-only and not to make any actual destructive changes. I'll disable it for Wikipedia to prevent this from happening again. Thanks for letting me know and for reverting that change. I would however like to note that your comment on my talk page does not appear to adhere to Wikipedia's rule against personal attacks, and I would appreciate it if you kept your language neutral.

As for the notability of the two articles I had added, I could use some advice since it looks like you're much more involved on Wikipedia than I am. It's been years since I've made any large contributions, and the rules seem to have become much more complicated. My goal was to add two bean-to-bar chocolate manufacturers to the bean-to-bar chocolate manufacturers list. The simple fact that the two manufacturers I listed exist in the United States is of significance, because there are so few of them here. My original intent was to simply add the two companies to the list, but then I was shown a number of warnings saying the edits would be deleted if the entries didn't link to articles. Articles did not yet exist for either of the companies I wished to add, so my next goal was to create a stub article for each of them. I know it's important to include references on every article, so I included a reference for each to confirm their founding year and owners. One of the articles was moved to Draftspace for not having enough citations, so I ensured that each article had at least two references. Then you nominated one for speedy deletion, and the one in Draftspace was again rejected.

After the experiences I've had, I have a few questions to ask:

  1. How many references does one need for an article to not be deleted for not having enough?
  2. Is it sufficient to justify the existence of an article through discussion, or does its notability need to be made clear in the article text itself?
  3. Right now it feels like there isn't a way for me to add a small amount of information to the List article without burdening myself to write a full-fledged (non-stub) article for each of the entries. My hope here was that I could get something started with enough references to establish these places' existence and allow others to keep iterating on the articles as they see fit. Is there actually a way for me to add these two manufacturers to the list without taking on a huge amount of effort myself? I just want to help create a more accurate list!

Thanks for your time.CheeToS (talk) 18:27, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

CheeToS, The change was infantile vandalism. It may have been an unfortunate accident, but it was definitely infantile, and it coloured my reaction to the rest of your change. If you consider that to be a personal attack rather than a plain statement of fact, WP:ANI is the place to complain.
List articles exist to help readers navigate from one article to another. If something isn't notable enough for an article, it's not notable enough to go in the list. WP:WTAF.
The articles you're trying to write are about businesses which need to meet the criteria in WP:NCORP. The wiki was drowning in a flood of non-notable businesses trying use the wiki to advertise, so a minimum requirement (not just quantity, but quality too) for significant, reliable, verifiable, independent sources was introduced. Stubs are OK in some areas, mostly those where the temptation to advertise is less, or where they fill historical gaps, but for businesses which are currently operating, no.
Notability and notoriety are not the same.
-- Cabayi (talk) 19:17, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
I'm not looking to take action against you for your wording. I also don't think it's worth getting pedantic about whether or not it was "infantile vandalism," because a statement being true and being a personal attack aren't mutually exclusive; truthfulness wouldn't create an exception to the rule. I'm sure you deal with a lot of garbage and I appreciate and respect the volunteering you do here. I'm just asking you to consider your wording more carefully in the future, because in this instance, it came across as hostile, and that may cause others to become disinterested in contributing to Wikipedia if they were actually acting in good faith. Wikipedia's standards also seem to support this line of reasoning. Not trying to start an argument. Just asking you to consider it.
Thanks for the link to WP:NCORP. The guidelines there are much clearer. I think I could probably create a new article that meets them when I have some time. (Both of the businesses I was attempting to add are locally notable). Do you know if I'm going to run into trouble by recreating a previously-deleted article, if the new one shows an attempt at adhering to the guidelines?
Corrected the typo, thanks.
CheeToS (talk) 19:49, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
CheeToS, Indi chocolate got moved to Draft:Indi chocolate and tagged for the WP:AFC process. If you want to start again on Bakery Nouveau it would be best to start at Draft:Bakery Nouveau and include 
{{subst:AFC draft|CheeToS}}
at the head of the article. Going through the AFC review process takes longer but removes (nearly) all the risk of it being deleted.
I've tagged Draft talk:Indi chocolate with the relevant projects which may draw some assistance from interested editors. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 21:35, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
I appreciate it, thanks! CheeToS (talk) 21:40, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Saw that you've become a trainee clerk - great to have you join the SPI team! Best of luck with everything. GABgab 20:14, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Harare in fiction

Thank you for nominating Harare in fiction for deletion. I accidentally made it an article rather than a category, and I could not figure out how to delete it. Thanks again! Jgefd (talk) 20:30, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Lets talk about it

Let start dialogue about these retail store lists. Where is the correct place to have the discussion with the general Wikipedia community? Kind regards Vitreology (talk) 09:25, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Vitreology, Let's not. WP:NOTDIRECTORY is fundamental policy, not something that will be easily changed. WP:VPMISC or WP:VPPOL are probably the pages to not start this discussion. Cabayi (talk) 09:39, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
I appreciate the hint of humour. However these articles clearly meet the WP:STANDALONE criteria:
"Lists are commonly written to satisfy one of the following sets of criteria:"

"Short, complete lists of every item that is verifiably a member of the group. These should only be created if a complete list is reasonably short (less than 32K) and could be useful (e.g., for navigation) or interesting to readers. The inclusion of items must be supported by reliable sources. For example, if reliable sources indicate that a complete list would include the names of ten notable businesses and two non-notable businesses, then you are not required to omit the two non-notable businesses. However, if a complete list would include hundreds or thousands of entries, then you should use the notability standard to provide focus to the list."

Every item on these lists clearly meets the notability criteria.
The list itself is a very useful navigation aid for readers. Once enough of these store maps have been created, the data will be added into WikiData then accessed via an API from a mobile app, saving the world countless amounts of time and money when shopping. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitreology (talk • contribs) 09:58, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Vitreology, the closing comment left by Fram on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aisle information for Coles (Burwood, NSW) sums up the situation pretty well. Cabayi (talk) 10:49, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Broken template

Hello Cabayi; I noticed a wide range of articles no longer show the Russian flag in tables which use Template:Flagicon. It's absent from thousands of articles, but just as an example, you can see the issue in List of countries by copper production, 2015 table. I *think* I traced the issue to your edits of Template:Country data Russia on 19 January, where File:Flag of Russia (Kremlin.ru).svg was removed, but I'm not 100% sure if that is the cause, and I'm not familiar enough with the intricacies of template dependencies to find out. Maybe you could check it out? Thanks so much. — Define Real (talk) 10:40, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Define Real, It looks fine to me. The page has had over 5000 visitors since the change was made to the flag so it's extremely unlikely that it's been caused by the software re-rendering the page or template just now. I'm at a loss to explain it. Do you still have the problem? Cabayi (talk) 11:02, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Welp, sorry for wasting your time. I had this on my Chrome browser (imgur link) for several days on every article with the Flagicon Russia template, but your comment led me to check on Firefox and Explorer, where I did not experience the problem. Nothing a simple cache purge couldn't fix... — Define Real (talk) 11:14, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Define Real, List of countries by copper production was edited a few times on the 21st which would tie in with your several days experience. That could be the cause. Maybe.
So long as it's good now, that's all that matters. Happy editing, Cabayi (talk) 11:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Ekrem İmamoğlu

Dear Cabayi, thank you for your message. The first article Ekrem i̇mamoğlu should be deleted since I misspelled the surname (It had to use capital of authentic letter "İ") however, second article (Ekrem İmamoğlu) is correct. I'd be glad if you could help to eliminate the mistaken article, please. Thank you. Umi1903 (talk) 16:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Self-Sovereign Identity

Dear Cabayi, please recover https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Self-Sovereign_Identity article. This article is not about something that was invented by me. As I have replied in the reply "to speedy deletion" this topic is very well explored, it has a big digital footprint on the internet, it has big active live community that explores and publishes about this topic. Please see tag #SSI on Twitter, as well as other links: https://medium.com/learning-machine-blog/identity-and-digital-self-sovereignty-1f3faab7d9e3 https://ssimeetup.org/ http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2016/04/the-path-to-self-soverereign-identity.html https://www.moxytongue.com/2016/04/id2020-sovereign-authority.html Also! please note that this article has a draft page that was created 1 month earlier before I published my page. I have not seen the draft when I published mine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kantakuziv (talk • contribs) 17:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Kantakuziv, firstly, I'm not an admin so I can't restore your version of the article. Secondly, your version had faults which Draft:Self-sovereign identity does not.
As I recall, your version was sourced by two blogs (lifewithalacrity.com & moxytongue.com) which are WP:UGC where the sources cited in the draft meet the requirements to be reliable, verifiable, and independent. The use of only blogs was what gave me the impression that you had invented the topic.
Of the new sources you offer - ssimeetup.org is not independent, and the source on medium.com, though well written, is also a blog. They are no improvement over the previous sources.
Given these issues, and the choice of two versions of the article, the version currently at Draft:Self-sovereign identity is the better choice to build on. Please try to improve the draft to the point where it can be published.
I also need to tell you that blockchain has been a contentious area for the wiki, and special rules apply to editing topics in this area. I'll place the notice on your talk page so that you'll be aware of the restrictions.
I realise this is all news you didn't want to get and I'm sorry for that, but I hope you can see that it's for the greater good of the wiki. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 18:19, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Cabayi, the references to two blog posts about the concept of Self-Sovereign Identity were provided because they are the oldest references about this concept that I can find on the Internet. They also describe it very well. I am OK to add references like this one - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/16/magazine/beyond-the-bitcoin-bubble.html (the one mentioned in the draft by Daniel H Hardman). We can use Daniel H Hardman's draft, but I like mine more as its explains Self-Sovereign Identity directly using the first principles. His by contrasting it to the usual digital identities. Please, help to restore the page so community that explores this concept figure out the best way to write about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kantakuziv (talk • contribs) 08:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Kantakuziv, the deleting administrator was RHaworth. You'll have to ask him to restore it to your userspace. Cabayi (talk) 08:56, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Woops!!

Sorry Cabayi! We were both nominating Ekospol a.s. for deletion. However, I just put it up in AfD while you used Speedy. My apologies. I wanted it to get on record that this is the third time the page has been created. Is that okay? –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 13:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

MJL, No worries, I've added G4, G11, & salt. Cabayi (talk) 13:13, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks! Seems this user has gotten away with this for about 6 years now. I'm rather impressed. I'm currently reviewing their and 84.42.253.98's edit histories. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 13:17, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
MJL, the contributions of Myslimír Dobrotivý look connected too. Though probably too stale for anything other than a {{uw-agf-sock}}. Happy digging! Cabayi (talk) 13:23, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
MJL, a new puppet freshened things up so I've raised Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Marketing5. The reports of the stale accounts are pretty much for-the-record as nothing will come of them, but Marketing5 & Vkucera91 should be dealt with. Cabayi (talk) 14:03, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
(thank you for the pings by the way; I really appreciate it :D). I checked it out, and I'm writing a quick comment now! Thank you for the good work you do on Wikipedia!! –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 14:54, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

SergioGonza13

Hi, Cabayi I don't have much experience in this community. I didn't do the blanking in purpose i though old messages don't matter if you address them already. According to userboxes I don't know what you are talking about could please be more, thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SergioGonza13 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Conversation continued at User talk:SergioGonza13. Cabayi (talk) 09:52, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sharafuhere

I understand the reason for my block and that i will not repeat the kind of edits for which i was blocked. Please Unblock me and Please give me a last chance. If you give me a chance i will contribute well written, contain factually accurate and verifiable information, are broad in coverage, neutral in point of view, stable, and illustrated, where possible, by relevant images with suitable copyright licenses. i will not repeat the kind of edits for which i was blocked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K2share (talk • contribs) 17:10, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Playback Singer

This article is biased and unfairly written in favour of Ahmed Rushdi, there is plenty of WP:POV information and the sources don't back up the statements in the article. Even after checking the article Ahmed Rushdi which itself is full of unsourced content and looks as if it is written by a fan. Kishfan thinks this article is 'perfectly referenced' in his own words, it looks as if he is most probably a fan and is therefore defending the biased information that glorifies his idol in the article that desperately needs a cleanup. I have added a cleanup tag to the article and intend to clean the article very soon. He is nobody to decide the rules and I am merely following the guidelines. I request you to check out the article yourself to get a idea and guide me of what action I can take next to counter this abusive editor's agenda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unilexis (talk • contribs) 11:36, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the Blockchain notice

Thank you for sharing additional insights with the general sanctions system. Bird4116 (talk) 18:05, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Requesting speedy deletion

Please delete Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kishfan since it was a false report.-Kishfan (talk) 23:36, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Kishfan, That would remove the evidence that Wolf Cola uses socks to make false SPI accusations against you. Given your previous interactions with WC, do you really think they've finished? I think it's better & safer for you, in the long run, to keep it. I'll ping you again once it's all tidied up and we'll see how you feel then. Cabayi (talk) 09:25, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Kishfan, To quote your own words back to you "I can assure you they will strike again." In which case the closing notes on the cases (which will shortly be archived) will help you far more than a deleted case page (which, as Bbb23 has already told you, isn't going to be deleted).
I'm sorry for the stress you've been through, and I hope the final resolution is some recompense, Cabayi (talk) 10:37, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
As you say so Cabayi and I am grateful on your healing approach but I have a couple of questions. Hopefully you will apprise me on the subject.

1. Does this page Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kishfan would effect me by any means as I want to be admin myself?

2. Am I at liberty to nominate this for speedy del at any point of time? Looking forward for your concern.-Kishfan (talk) 11:13, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

1. Anyone who sees the SPI during your RFA will also see that it was a trouble-making attempt by a known sockpuppeteer, or you can point them to that outcome. You're more likely to encounter problems from blanking bad news from your talk page instead of archiving them. See Help:Archiving a talk page.
2. You've already had an answer from Bbb23 to that question. Asking the same question repeatedly until you get the answer you like isn't good. Cabayi (talk) 11:27, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
It's not about Asking the same question repeatedly until you get the answer you like. Actually I am literally not clear on the subject that's why asked Bbb23 also to have a policy based argument. Anyways grateful for archiving suggestion.-Kishfan (talk) 11:44, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Funny, Bbb23's reply on his talkpage looked pretty clear to me. Being told an administrator would consider it disruptive is a clear indicator you shouldn't do it. In the area of SPI, more than anywhere else on the wiki, there's no argument to be had. Take the hint, don't do it.
I know it can be difficult but, do yourself a favour, walk away from this SPI. Put it behind you. Cabayi (talk) 12:07, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Question

How many days till an account or IP becomes stale? ᴀɴᴏɴʏᴍᴜᴤᴤ ᴜᴤᴇʀ (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 19:37, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

How long is a piece of string? But in this case, two edits within three minutes ten days ago, that's stale. Cabayi (talk) 19:43, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Hygger (company)

Hello Cabayi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Hygger (company), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 cannot be applied to software and the article is not overly promotionally worded. Thank you. SoWhy 13:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

SoWhy, the article purports to be about the company, not the software. Cabayi (talk) 16:15, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Mohammed Saeed Al Sheikh Khaz'al

Hello Cabayi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Mohammed Saeed Al Sheikh Khaz'al, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: claims significance as a major diplomat working for the UAE, notable father (potential merge target), considering the dates more sources are likely in existence offline than online, so needs more discussion. Thank you. SoWhy 14:02, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

"where he acted as the middleman" does not amount to a position as a major diplomat. Cabayi (talk) 14:07, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

SPI clerk

Hi. I hope you are well. I have been inactive since a few weeks. I am really glad you are an SPI clerk now. Just wanted to ask you, when did that happen? —usernamekiran(talk) 19:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Usernamekiran. My offer to become a trainee got picked off the list the middle of last month. It's an interesting new side to the wiki. I'm just hoping it goes as well as last year's new year's resolution to quit facebook. Glad to see you've not gone astray - too many of our long-time colleagues have imploded or just drifted off. Cabayi (talk) 20:24, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: 7-layer dip

Hello Cabayi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of 7-layer dip, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This one seems OK. There's a NYT recipe that uses it: https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1019914-seven-layer-dip. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 08:55, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Shirt58, Fair enough. Colgatepony234 created so much crap that needs cleaning up that there's bound to be the occasional "good" redirect among them. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 09:03, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
No worries. When I got the admin buttons, no-one told me "are you ready to royally piss off established editors by declining the occasional speedy deletion candidate that's worthwhile, amidst all the piles of Human crap that's in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion#the-guts?" Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:50, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I guess this is your case

An editor reopened it: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Banana19208. Apparently this is for your training, so I leave it in your good hands. Just making sure you knew, since you probably thought you were done with it. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:08, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Someguy1221, thanks for the pointer. Cabayi (talk) 06:52, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, hope you are fine. Please have a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/InsaafMaster. It might interests you.-Kishfan (talk) 17:01, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/A Great Catholic Person

I was surprised to see this closed so quickly. Is there a rule that a SPI can't be investigated against a user blocked for another reason? SportingFlyer T·C 07:28, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

SportingFlyer No rule, but what's the point of this SPI? AGCP hasn't edited in over 19 months, so CheckUser won't show anything. Any outcome will be based on behavioural analysis alone. If the link is proven, well they're both blocked already. If it's shown there's no connection, they've both been blocked for other reasons. Either way it'll have no impact. There was a discussion on WP:ANI. There's an unblock request. Now an SPI? If you have something to say about the unblock request, say it there. WP:MULTI applies, but that's not a rule either. Cabayi (talk) 07:47, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I didn't know CheckUser only worked in the past year, but they are appealing their block. As I noted in the SPI filing, whether I think an unblock should happen depends on whether this account is a sock. It's not useless. SportingFlyer T·C 20:25, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I should have looked closer at the block log (and so should you) -
  • 15:44, 28 March 2019 Bbb23 (talk | contribs) blocked AGreatPhoenixSunsFan (talk | contribs) with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked) ({{checkuserblock-account}})
which the blocking notification states is related to editing while logged out. So far as SPI is concerned, AGPSF has engaged in sockpuppetry. SPI is not set up to prove that AGPSF is not the sock of AGCP.
What you can assume from the report is that CU was used. If another named account was involved then it too would have been identified, blocked, and more than likely tagged. There's no reason to carry out a fresh SPI. If it were to proceed, my next step would be to tag it {{MoreInfo}} or {{DiffsNeeded}} and put the onus back on to you to provide more specific evidence as the evidence you've provided is weak.
  • "both editors made their only edit on Dillon Brooks within seven hours of each other"
They edited overnight 22-23 June 2017. The 2017 NBA draft was held 22 June. Editing a topic in the news isn't evidence of collusion or sockpuppetry, just an interest in the sports pages.
Having read through tyhe ANI thread it appears you're the only person still unconvinced that there is no link, and even you're not convinced that there is a link. You'll have to make up your own mind how you feel about AGPSF's unblock request, Cabayi (talk) 22:25, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Just a heads up, I've clarified the fact that the two users are unrelated at the SPI and archived it. We're done. Thanks for the ping.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:03, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I was familiar with the block as I've seen the user's talk page. I appreciate the confirmation from Bbb23 about them not being related. SportingFlyer T·C 01:59, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Access Bikes

Lol sorry but this was a AF joke ~~ JJBullet 11:24, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

LOL, the {{uw-speedy2}} isn't. Cabayi (talk) 11:27, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Five Points, Texas

I have declined your speedy tag. Geographical places such as townships are generally not speedy deleted, unless they are blatant hoaxes. Secondly, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Five Points, Texas closed as "speedy keep", which means the community has decided we should have an article on this, irrespective of who has contributed to it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:36, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Ritchie333, I have no dispute regarding the subject matter. My nom was based entirely on the relative merits of a "speedy keep" vs. WP:DENY. I didn't (and don't) believe the community decided irrespective of the author when the community was unaware who the author was. But the whole point of WP:DENY is that we don't waste more time on the socks than necessary, so I'll let it drop. Thanks for the notification. Cabayi (talk) 16:51, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
No problem. FWIW, I have seen numerous discussions about the merits of G5 and cases when it should apply. Iridescent should be able to give you a concise run-down of the most significant ones to have a look at it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

You are most welcome.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:06, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

April 20

Re: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Moylesy98 : Moylesy98 edited 6 hours before and about 11 hours after 2A00*D101's edits; a checkuser analysis of the IP's used by Moylesy98 *may* have told us (well the checkuser runner) something about the probably of the person behind Moylesy98 using that the IP address 2A00*D101. I'm happy to let your decision stand though. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:17, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Djm-leighpark - A checkuser cannot, will not, and is forbidden to, confirm an IP to a named user. If that were not the case you'd be right to ask for CU, but it is. Cabayi (talk) 15:40, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
OK. Thanks.Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Confused about CSD

Hello! I notice back in March you requested deletion of Hoolahoop per WP:CSDR3 (convenience link for admins). However, your edit was March 2019 and it was created in January 2018. It seems beyond the "recently created" aspect. It actually went through an RFD, which is why it was on my watchlist. Perhaps you made an error, but I'm also puzzled why Materialscientist fulfilled your request and deleted it. Could one or both of you comment? It was recreated in the last day or two. Killiondude (talk) 19:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Killiondude, It was one of 260+ redirects (User:Cabayi/CSD log#Colgate) created by the user, many based on funnysigns.net. MarkZusab appears to have recreated several. There's a discussion at User talk:Colgatepony234#About my redirects. Cabayi (talk) 21:13, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Loginwiki

Saw you and Bbb23 talking about xwiki CU at an SPI, and I felt it was probably a good idea to point out that there really is no such thing as true cross-wiki CU. Most people (including some admins/CUs) think that loginwiki tracks logins. What it actually tracks is the technical data only at moment of account creation, and for various reasons, it is mainly useful for dealing with LTAs who don't care about being caught (think Arturo et amici). There's a phab ticket for global CU somewhere that has been delayed for ages, but the intent there is to allow stewards to check to see if a global range block has collateral damage, not to track abuse.

We can collaborate with stewards in various ways, but they can't directly access en.wiki CU data without giving themselves the flag here, the odds of which are about zero since a local CU is almost always online at the same time as a steward if there was an emergency.

I'm not sure if loginwiki data would be helpful at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lagoo sab, but thought it was probably worth mentioning what stewards can/can't do from a purely technical standpoint since there is a lot of confusion about it in general :). TonyBallioni (talk) 01:51, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

TonyBallioni, is it T212779, (which has been created about 4 months ago)? Some progress is noted over T215072 and the mentioned intent of the orig. ticket does appear to be anti-abuse. ∯WBGconverse 06:31, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
TonyBallioni, Bbb23, Winged Blades of Godric, LouisAragon - A check was performed by Ruslik at m:Special:Diff/19032771#Lagoo sab@en.wikipedia. The accounts are unrelated. Cabayi (talk) 10:09, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Cabyai, yeah, based on the Wikidata accounts not having been created here, my guess was going to be they were created on a range that had an account creation block on en.wiki, so loginwiki would likely not turn up a confirmation to accounts created here (just as a guess, not having seen any data.)
Winged Blades of Godric, thanks for that. I think there is an older one, and I suspect the framing it as an anti-abuse issue was more an English-thing than anything else: two stewards whom I trust have said that the intent behind global CU is for collateral with global blocks. I oppose global CU for a few reasons, but I still doubt much will come of it anytime soon, so right now it’s all hypothetical (sorry for responding on your talk Cabyai.) TonyBallioni (talk) 12:22, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
No worries TonyBallioni, if this stuff is going to get explained on an obscure talk page I'm more than happy that it's my obscure talk page where I can find it.
A little more digging shows There'sNoTime holds both Steward & Checkuser. I'm happy with that way out of the situation next time round. Cabayi (talk) 12:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

PA

I didn't suggest anything of the sort. Why don't you just go back and read again what I said instead of taking things out of context and adding to the drama?Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:10, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Kudpung, "there was nothing misogynous in LP's comment" followed by a non-offensive, non-directed use of bitch in "Life is a bitch", which is NOT how LP used the word. (wikt:bitch#Noun meanings #3 & #8.) If you intended an alternative interpretation then I'm afraid it's got lost somewhere. Cabayi (talk) 13:29, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Editnotices/Page/Template:Infobox UK school

Template:Editnotices/Page/Template:Infobox UK school has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 18:21, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

'User:RaquelSalanchez' and Copyvio issues at 'Draft:Solving logic problems' at 'Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard'

Hi, Cabayi: I wish to apologise to all of you for these inconveniences on behalf of my students. With respect to matters such as copyright and rules of behaviour when contributing to Wikipedia, students were warned in a specific face-to-face meeting on January 31, 2019 (you can check the Calendar of activities for it) and, in any event, I did my best to ensure these community regulations were well and explicitly expressed, referred or linked in the project description page (Wikipedia:School and university projects/Discrete and numerical mathematics). I should be grateful if you would forward my apologies to the rest of the people concerned. Thank you for your understanding. I will continue my efforts to make sure that it never happens again. Kind regards, --Jmleonrojas (talk) 19:32, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:User wikipedia/Administrator

I reverted Template:User wikipedia/Administrator on the change you made today, but I only don't like the change directing to Special:Userrights. It is actually pretty confusing because for me it brings me to the interface to change user rights, while Special:Listusers is easy to see at a glance. I think you changed some other stuff that I didn't notice, so my revert wasn't challenging any of that :) TonyBallioni (talk) 02:22, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

TonyBallioni, my full reply is in Special:Permalink/894977109 but it had the side effect of adding me to Category:Wikipedia administrators, which is the same misleading stuff my change aimed at removing.
The TL;DR, overall, I enacted a user request, saw an improvement that could be made, and made it. If it's not an improvement for the folks who actually use it (like you), or it's fixing a non-problem, then Bold-Revert-ForgetIt! Happy editing, Cabayi (talk) 06:37, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Is there a way to change it so you’re not in the category? I don’t care about any of the rest of the template stuff, it’s just that you get a very different view that’s a bit overwhelming (and my initial thought was “Why do I want to change an admin’s user rights?” TonyBallioni (talk) 12:26, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
TonyBallioni, OK, here goes, trying |nocat=true...
Listusers links the user who matches OR follows alphabetically. Look quickly and you'd believe TonyBallina's an admin...
{{User wikipedia/Administrator|username=TonyBallina|nocat=true}}
This user is an administrator on the English Wikipedia. (verify)
Userrights links to the actual user's info, and you know TonyBallina's a fake...
{{User wikipedia/Administrator/sandbox|username=TonyBallina|nocat=true}}
This user is an administrator on the English Wikipedia. (verify)
-- Cabayi (talk) 13:19, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Apology and Response to Message

I’m sorry about the message that I posted earlier, I was upset because a few editors kept deleting my edits, and no one was providing an explanation. I understand now why it was deleted. Thank you! Michael Krhovjak (talk) 16:36, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I failed to sign in?

I would appreciate your providing a link to such a post. I am not aware of having done that. Thanks EditorASC (talk) 21:24, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

I really would appreciate your answering my request for a link. I just now put my IP number in a search box, but nothing comes up. [[1]] EditorASC (talk) 23:34, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

EditorASC, I'd appreciate your grasping the idea that not everybody is in your timezone and that they sleep from time to time. Asking ONCE on ONE page is enough, multiple times on three pages is annoying... I'm starting to see how you two wind each other up.

Oh dear, now YOU are annoyed? My heart bleeds... Maybe YOU are the one that should try to grasp some ideas before you post false and vicious, un-supportable allegations which many folks will think is true, simply because it is there!!! You know damn well that you found no such failure to sign in; that means you deliberately intended to do me harm by posting such a lie.
You deliberately posted false, vile innuendo on my talk page for which you KNEW you had not one shred of valid evidence to support it. Who the hell do you think you are? I want that vile and totally false allegation by you removed from my talk page without delay. EditorASC (talk) 11:08, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) EditorASC, that report had reasonable merit to assume that you were the IP user and might have forgot to log-in. Assume good faith of others and move on. ∯WBGconverse 11:25, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

That is total Bull Pucky! My IP shows I live in the Western U.S. and the other IPs are in Great Britain. There is no way I could fail to sign in and show an IP that is located in Great Britain. You all know that, but you are trying to cover up your failure to completely exonerate me from the scurrilous charges that the constantly lying Editor Manning has leveled against me because I dared to properly edit HIS ARTICLE, which he seems to think he owns. There is no way I can assume good faith when you all behave like a bunch of obsequious sycophants. EditorASC (talk) 11:43, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

EditorASC, we don't generally intend to violate your privacy by identifying the IPs used by your account, unless there are strong reasons. ∯WBGconverse 12:42, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

EditorASC,

If there's anything else you're unsure of, you know where Google is. Cabayi (talk) 14:27, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

vintage SPI

If you'd like to get involved in an SPI which is 9-10 years old, and has different conventions in the archive, I would suggest this. Regards, —usernamekiran(talk) 11:06, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Swaye Major

Can you help me create a biography for artist Swaye Major BrainL (talk) 20:02, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

NoCal SPI

I see the user was blocked based of CU, but I have some questions about your comment. You wrote Attack Ramon was recently active at the time of the last CU 01 February 2019 and didn't show up in the investigation. Why would that have mattered? nableezy - 22:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

No links, nonexistent SPIs... Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NoCal, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Attack Ramon ?? Cabayi (talk) 06:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
WP:Sockpuppet investigations/NoCal100. nableezy - 17:19, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Let me flip the question back at you - why did you expect a different outcome now than in February? How could I justify asking the checkusers to re-run an investigation which had been recently run and while the same parties' records were still fresh? Cabayi (talk) 12:30, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
You noticed that the user has in fact been blocked as a sock per CU findings, right? As far as a different outcome, the user in question was not checked in February. The only time Attack Ramon was listed was a year ago where it was archived without any investigation. There was no different outcome here, and using a past report that didnt even mention the account in question to attempt to close a current report still makes no sense to me and Id still like an answer as to why it would have mattered that a separate investigation where the account was not included did not find a connection to an account that was not mentioned. nableezy - 17:52, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, once you linked to the SPI I was aware of its outcome. So, what is it you actually want? A lesson in how to be wrong? To harangue me for having been wrong? Either way I see no constructive point in prolonging this conversation. Cabayi (talk) 05:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
No, I was not haranguing you, and Im sorry if thats what you feel that I was doing here. What I wanted was an answer to the original question, why you thought a report on an account that had not been previously checked should be closed due to other accounts having been checked previously. Im really just looking for what the basis was for closing it there was, as the stated reason doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me. nableezy - 05:53, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Not every account checked is explicitly named in the request or the report - how would sleepers be uncovered otherwise? A CU took place while AR was recently active. If using the same IP, device, browser I'd have expected him to show up when looking at the traits of socks associated with the master.
I can only assume that AR did something more NoCal100-ish, or used a toolset more closely related to the master between Feb & May. Cabayi (talk) 06:02, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
I dont think that is a safe assumption. A person may only edit from work with one account and from home with another, and a check may show that they are using the same browser/OS combination and in the same general vicinity and along with behavior that may be sufficient to make a relationship "likely". And that would not show up in a past check. nableezy - 19:47, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't want to get into the middle of this discussion, but I thought I'd share a few comments about checks for everyone's edification. It's true that sometimes checks of one account will turn up other accounts. However, many users use more than one range, and that makes it tougher to find everyone. If the CU is aware of the other ranges, they can check them separately, but that depends on the CU and how "thorough" they want to be. It can often be tedious and yield nothing, meaning a waste of time. If they are not aware, which is often the case, there's nothing more that can be done. I prefer not to share the technical characteristics of this case, but I can say that the reasons I ran the check were because Nableezy provided more evidence and because I had closed the year-old report with no comment, as they noted in the new report.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:05, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

NovaSkola sockpuppet investigation

Hi, Cabayi. I don't mean to intrude but have you been able to follow up on the sockpuppet investigation on Azerifactory which has currently been placed on hold? As you were concerned about my being a potential sockpuppet I have also clarified in my comments there why I am a returning low-activity user. Best regards, Wrenhaven (talk) 14:09, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Infobox country

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Template talk:Infobox country. Legobot (talk) 04:31, 30 May 2019 (UTC)


Cekli829

I see you stripped Cekli829 of their admin rights on azwiki but left their interface-admin rights. Is that what you meant to do? Cabayi (talk) 09:07, 28 May 2019 (UTC) Originally posted at User talk:Baskervill#Cekli829

I don't know what are you talking about. Did you read the discussions about Azviki on the Meta site? If you haven't read it you can read it here. First of all, I am not currently admin in Azerbaijani wikipedia and I can't remove anybody administrator rights. Azerbaijani wikipedia has two bureaucrats, and only they can remove admin status. First is necessary for the community to approve such a thing. But in my case steward remove status and he told me we can apply for new procedures. My admin procedure almost finish and I've got 54 positive votes at the moment. This is the biggest indicator of the community's reputation for me. Cekli829 can do the same for himself, but he knows that people will not trust him. I've always followed the rules and I've worked uninterruptedly for the expansion of the wikimedia movement in my country. I can help you more if you explain your views more clearly. I also advise you to contact Eldarado, one of the active bureaucrats of Azwiki. Regards.--Baskervill (talk) 02:29, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Baskervill, am I mis-reading the logs ? Cabayi (talk) 07:25, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
what do you mean by that?--Baskervill (talk) 18:04, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Baskervill, Eldarado, I mean that on 1 April Cekli829 was an administrator, on 14 May they weren't. 

06:57, 14 May 2019 Turkmen talk contribs changed group membership for Cekli829 from interface administrator to interface administrator, patroller and rollbacker (İdarəçi statusu alınıb) (thank)
15:38, 13 May 2019 Baskervill talk contribs unblocked Cekli829 talk contribs
15:30, 13 May 2019 Baskervill talk contribs blocked Cekli829 talk contribs with an expiration time of 1 month (account creation disabled) (Yetər ! Əl çək bu vikipediyadan.)
13:57, 13 May 2019 Araz Yaquboglu talk contribs unblocked Cekli829 talk contribs (müzakirə aparmadan idarəçinin idarəçini bloklamağı yaxşı olmayan bir nümunədir.)
12:56, 13 May 2019 Baskervill talk contribs blocked Cekli829 talk contribs with an expiration time of 1 month (account creation disabled) (Çoxsaylı hesabdan sui istifadəyə görə: Yetər !)
18:16, 1 April 2019 Eldarado talk contribs changed group membership for Cekli829 from administrator to administrator and interface administrator (thank)

Cekli829 still has interface-admin rights which is a more restricted privilege than administrator. If Cekli829 is no longer trusted to be an admin, why do they still have interface-admin? Cabayi (talk) 06:27, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

@Cabayi:, You are right I think, I will remove his Interface administrator right. Thank you for your attention. --eldarado ✉ 19:35, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Nicat49

Hi. I'm not Sock puppetry. This is mistake. All admins of azerbaijani wiki know me, you can ask their opinions about me. Also if you want you can check my account. About - Fuad Alakbarov (2nd nomination). My english is bad, but I read this page in azviki (Fuad Ələkbərov) and I think the article is eating enough sources, maybe I'm wrong but this is my opinion. Regards.--Nicat49 (talk) 02:39, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Fuad Alakbarov's article and other hundreds of articles about Azerbaijan or Azerbaijanis, I add to my Watchlist. I watch articles almost every day to protect them from vandalism. You can see my contributions. I saw this your edit and went to read and vote. Regards.--Nicat49 (talk) 05:41, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

File:Teahouse Barnstar Hires.png CC BY-SA 3.0 Heather Walls Teahouse Barnstar
This is for your valuable efforts on helping others in teahouse. PATH SLOPU 17:05, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

SPI Clerk?

Hello!
I think I am supposed to ask for your input/help before anything else. I created a new investigation Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dansong22. Could you look at it and tell me if I've got something right? I think checkuser would be helpful in comparing IPs and users but I don't know if it's on or whether it's my job to do that. Most emphasis seems to be on providing specific evidence, more specifically with diffs. I am not sure how much work I am expected to do, whether I am being tardy or just slaving through data that a bot would examine better in 48 milliseconds. Finally, how long before I might get some indication of whether my suspicions will be confirmed by the process and some action taken? Thanks! Usedtobecool TALK 20:24, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

My questions have all been answered. So, you can consider this matter closed. Cheers! Usedtobecool TALK 17:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Critical Care Nurse

Hi - I feel I ought to apologise for my review of this earlier today. I looked for sources this morning, and thought that there was enough stuff online to allow an article to be written; having seen your PROD, I looked a bit more carefully this afternoon, and I think I was allowing the large number of dependent sources to blind me to the lack of independent ones. I'll aim to be more thorough in future before marking an article as reviewed. GirthSummit (blether) 18:04, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit, no need to apologise. We all see things through different eyes, that's why the wiki succeeds as a collaborative effort. Happy editing, Cabayi (talk) 05:46, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Decline of new page

Hi @Cabayi: I want to know what should be done in order to get the page https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Pandita_Ramabai_Mukti_Mission — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revival1991 (talk • contribs) 10:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Read the comments I left on your draft, follow the links, read the guidance, add sources, show that people who are not associated with the mission have noticed it and find it important enough to write about. Cabayi (talk) 10:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Kumar Keshav

Hi Cabayi it has been really disappointing that I did not get any revert as to why you deleted the page which I was trying to come up with and ratehr called it a rip off of someone else's page. Please look into it again. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramsingh21194 (talk • contribs) 09:06, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Ramsingh21194 You didn't get an answer because you didn't ping me. Also, I didn't delete the page. The REDRIECT (which was left left behind when you moved the page into mainspace without waiting for the article's review) was overwritten (and marked as deleted) when the article was moved back to draftspace. I shall look into it again and deal with all the issues I find.
When it was finally deleted, it wasn't as a rip-off of someone else's draft, it was as a rip-off of three external websites. Cabayi (talk) 09:32, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing my SPI

Nice! Now, may you please review Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jeffthero? This time, not all accounts are blocked! TitanSymphony (talk) 14:18, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

IP

Hi Cabayi,

We interacted several times in the past, and I want to take the opportunity to (anonymously) write you a few words: Probably you are not British born, or if you are, you grew up in struggling family of Indians, Pakistanis or Bangladeshis. I cannot stop you from making Wikipedia the reason of your existence, but for the sake of Wikipedia as an institution, I hope you will never accede to become an administrator of any sort.

P.S. The opening statement on your user page should rather read that: "you (whatever your real name is) are nothing but an unlucky ape, rejected in society, in search on the www for a purpose in life". (I am sure receive numerous such remarks, because your talk page is always freshly archived). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.166.203.89 (talk • contribs) 10:05, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

  • I deliberately maintain a distinction between my on-wiki and off-wiki life. You are of course free to make whatever guesses you like.
  • I would never dream of messing with a quote from Terry Pratchett. It says what I wanted to say, that words can be (and often are) misinterpreted... as you seem to have done. Cabayi (talk) 12:20, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Hey

Haven't been around for a while and came back to see your hiatus notice (although it was posted before I took a break). I think we all need a break sometimes and I'm glad you're taking one. Hope to see you back soon! --qedk (t 桜 c) 07:18, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

"List of United Kingdom MPs by seniority, 2010–" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect List of United Kingdom MPs by seniority, 2010–. Since you had some involvement with the List of United Kingdom MPs by seniority, 2010– redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Geolodus (talk) 14:09, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

"List of MPs for constituencies in England 2010–" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect List of MPs for constituencies in England 2010–. Since you had some involvement with the List of MPs for constituencies in England 2010– redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 15:54, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Unsure of how to resubmit for review process.

Hi Cabayi. I submitted an article for Phillip Ahn M.D. and edited it the draft with more information and references. I am confused why the original reviewer commented "seems like one credit in a videogame is not enough" because I did prior research before submitting and Daniel Pesina has a Wikipedia page and he also is also only known for Mortal Kombat II. I have linked more references and Ahn's photos are even on WikiMedia Commons already.

How do I get the draft reviewed? I did not mean to "bypass" the review process but I was confused as to how to get it reviewed with the new edits. Thanks!

Responding to: Special:Permalink/915962499#September 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Titusthecat (talk • contribs)

Titusthecat,
Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 12:09, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

welcome back

Good to see you. Glad you're here. :-) Katietalk 17:24, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

KrakatoaKatie, it's mostly because the Arbcom's proposals reassert that the community is self-policing and that something should be done about CIVIL. So, thank you, and thanks to your fellow arbs. Glad to be back. Cabayi (talk) 17:29, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the Review

Cabayi Thanks for reviewing some of my articles. Would you also mind going through some other that are in pending for quite some time now?

Bishal Shrestha (talk) 06:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Bishal Shrestha, I will if you'll do me the favour of polishing up Kedar Nath Upadhyay. I followed your articles from one CJ to another, and came to KNU... let's just say that it's obviously not one of yours. Cabayi (talk) 06:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
@Cabayi:  Done Done and Dusted! I am in process of creating article for the CJs of Nepal. Will be working on improving existing ones as I complete the process. Bishal Shrestha (talk) 07:01, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Done. Except for Luke Toki. I don't find contestants on TV shows to be notable, though that's just my personal view. I'm sure someone else will review it soon.
@Cabayi: Thanks for the review. Luke Toki was in fact a contestant on the TV show, but there was substantial news around him throughout most of the national media. I've included the citations that shows has the coverage on him. Some interesting facts that I think I should be including:
I note that Kedar Prasad Giri was the last CJ of the kingdom & the first CJ of the republic. If the transition was seamless then perhaps there's nothing to say. But it might be worth a few words? Cabayi (talk) 06:51, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
@Cabayi: That's something I missed out even though it was right in front of my eyes. Will definitely include it. Thanks for the suggestion. Bishal Shrestha (talk) 07:01, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

promotion to full SPI clerk

Congratulations! After discussion with the functionaries, you've been promoted to full SPI clerk. (We actually did it while you were gone and we were waiting for you to come back before we announced it. Surprise!) This means you can ditch the CAW template and consign it to the nether regions, never to be heard from again. You also get a raise. We don't yet know how much that will be, but it's commensurate with the compensation that nobody else gets. ;-)

Thanks for your hard work – you're doing a great job and it's much appreciated. Yay! Katietalk 17:26, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Katie to you and the other functionaries. I appreciate the vote of confidence and I'll try to live up to it.
Should I subst out the existing CAW uses, or blank the CAW then subst, or just G7?
Finally, I'd never want to be greedy. How about a 40% rise? Cabayi (talk) 18:09, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Just leave it all as is. Future clerk trainees could want to have a look. (Ditching means you don't have to use it going forward.) And everybody else got a 10% raise and liked it, buddy. It goes down 1% every time you complain. ;-) Katietalk 18:45, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Lacking any witty quips, so I'll just say congratulations, Cabayi :) GABgab 02:29, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mcook66

Hey Cabayi, pls take a look a this SPI opened by me.Andrew Base (talk) 06:04, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Andrew Base, there's a 4 month gap between the two accounts. Where's the WP:ILLEGIT behaviour? Cabayi (talk) 07:15, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Sucking eggs

While I appreciate the advice was given in good faith, I am not really that stupid!! My watchlist is set up correctly to display edits from Wikidata and I can do see occasional Wikidata edits on my watchlist. But yesterday, when I made some changes to Shaun Micheel (Q1755828), these were not picked up by my watchlist. It would be nice if you could try it, to see if there actually is a problem. I know Wikidata watchlist integration has been problematic in the past. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:57, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

MSGJ, that wasn't my intention. Personally, I turned off the wikidata notifications long ago as my watchlist was drowning in them, driving the signal-noise ratio down to the point of making the watchlist useless. I was certainly not implying anything like, [2].
I turned on wikidata notifications in my prefs - & saw nothing.
I altered the watchlist filters so that "Wikidata edits" wasn't omitted, then so that "Wikidata edits" was the only filter selected, and finally removed all filters. In all 3 cases I saw wikidata changes on Operation Varsity, Operation Varsity (Q1360624), but not on Micheel. I've tried watching both the enwiki article & the corresponding wikidata, no difference.
There seem to be as many wikidata changes settings as there are Facebook privacy settings.
Since I seem to be in danger of adding more heat than light to the discussion, I'll shut up now. Cabayi (talk) 10:07, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
LOL to Father Ted! Thanks for confirming that there does indeed seem to be a problem with watchlist integration. It is disappointing that this is still a problem after so many years of Wikidata. I will find somewhere appropriate to report it. No, it's definitely more light than heat ;) Cheers — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:46, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Great minds think alike ...

Hi Cabayi, sorry I didn't realise you had opened an SPI already into the Flytime Promotions accounts. Mine has been merged with yours, so probably unnecessary and duplicative, but I'm sure will be sorted out. Thanks for getting onto it so promptly! Melcous (talk) 12:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Melcous, triplicate in fact, SpicyMilkBoy also spotted it. I've started an AFD to clean up the UPE at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cecil Hammond. Cheers, Cabayi (talk) 16:33, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

SPI case

Hi, I was the one who filed Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vishnu jayadeep/Archive. It was supposed to be a check-user case, but I forgot to add that. Could you do that now? I have also found out some IPs this user is editing. 2409:4073:19D:4FFB:BCEF:2FF:FFD8:AA09 (talk) 14:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

2409:4073:19D:4FFB:BCEF:2FF:FFD8:AA09, Checkusers will never confirm a connection between an IP address and a named user account. It's part of the deal that comes with creating an account.

Edit without revealing your IP address (which can be used to trace your physical location) to the public.
— Wikipedia:Why create an account?

If you have new evidence you're welcome to file a new report. Cabayi (talk) 18:11, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
So where can I report logged-out editing (it's very obvious) by this user? 2409:4073:99:55F:49A8:2C81:215B:2E4A (talk) 10:40, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
  • If it's just a matter of editing while not logged in, place a {{uw-login}} warning on the user's talk page. If they persist, then add a reminder. If they persist, then add another reminder. If they keep on (and it really starts to look like deliberate behaviour rather than carelessness), then WP:ANI is the place to take it.
  • If they're pursuing a course of WP:ILLEGIT behaviour then file a WP:SPI report. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 13:12, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Another cfd

Could you perhaps close Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_November_2#Category:Lists_of_UK_MPs_2017– as well? Oculi (talk) 10:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done I'm not sure I'm supposed to, but there's no other logical outcome from the discussions. WP:IAR Cabayi (talk) 11:49, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 10

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (October 2019).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 10th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

about the Draft:The Independent(pharmacy)

Hello @User:Cabayi, have a nice day. Regarding the The Independent Pharmacy, I don't have any conflict of interest to the topic, I have done this in good faith because I am impressed by there works. I will submit now the article. Thanks and God Bless Marknamz8931 (talk) 16:03, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Marknamz8931, Thanks for replying. Some of your actions in regard to the article are often used by spammers trying to advertise on Wikipedia and made me feel it was necessary to ask the question.
The sources you've provided are generic, about pharmacy regulation, or just mentions in passing. The article needs at least two significant, reliable, verifiable, independent sources to pass the Wiki's requirements for articles about businesses. None of the present sources meet those requirements. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 08:40, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Cabayi, Hi thanks for the advice. I'm not aware for the proper content or guidelines on the content. Its not my intention on doing advertisement here. I'm always looking for other articles here on wikipedia in hope to gain some idea about putting a good article.Thanks for the response hope you will guide me in making the article live. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marknamz8931 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Marknamz8931, I don't think the problems are with your writing, it's that the business just isn't notable. Some topics just aren't, and no matter how much you write about them, it won't change their lack of notability.
Editing and improving existing articles is a much easier route into Wikipedia. Starting a new article from scratch is notoriously difficult, WP:YFA.
You don't need to ping me on my own talk page. It's safe to assume every editor has their own talk page on their watchlist. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 10:34, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Your Expertise & Input Greatly Required At This AFD

Hey, I hope this message reaches you well. You see I opened an AFD on the article titled Sonnia Agu. Which can be found Here I believe it is a non notable article that fails woefully basic WP:GNG standards for inclusion. Celestina007 (talk) 21:33, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Updating. What is the proper placement of Category, Living Person.

Just wanted to thank you for the help on my Dakota Laden page. I'm still learning. If you have an opportunity, can you recheck my page and look to see what I need to add or fix thus far? Your info. was very helpful though my application of it may be questionable. Thank you. 😁 KeesyM (talk) 08:58, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

KeesyM, I've done the style & placement stuff for you. The problems as I see them at present:
  • You're claiming he's notable on the pasis of shows which don't have wiki pages themselves. Are they notable? Is he notable separately from any show, or should Dakota Laden just redirect to some show's page?
For comparison...
  • " and is currently ongoing" - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. What you write today still needs to make sense in 20 or 50 years time. Words like "currently" get dated very quickly. See MOS:DATED for ways around it which improve the text now, and ensure the article will receive some attention to update it in the future.
  • IMDb is considered user generated content and not as a reliable source. See WP:CITINGIMDB.
  • Two of the sources do look reliable, startribune.com and twincities.com, but I don't know enough about either to say with any authority, and there's no indication in WP:RSP.
  • Categories aren't used in Drafts (WP:DRAFTNOCAT) they're deactivated by preceding them with a colon... [[:Category:Living people]] Once the article is moved to mainspace the leading colon is removed. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 10:07, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you.

Yes. Thank you! Will keep trying and reading and hopefully I will improve. 😁 KeesyM (talk) 05:47, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

This user has again started harassing me.

Hi, I saw your warning on the talk page of Edward Zigma in which you said that was their last chance to improve and user is back and undoing my reverts. See this edit, they removed content without summary and content was added with consensus on talk page. Also, they undo my this edit in which I removed details from non-RS. Kindly, take some action on this user. This is causing stress. -- Harshil want to talk? 13:48, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Please do something. Arbitration enforcement without any proof and calling me hindutva terrorist on their talk page.-- Harshil want to talk? 14:22, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

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Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Personal attacks on Wiktionary by confirmed sockpuppet of globally locked long-term abuser

Hi! You recently requested a global lock for Tirgil34 and various of his socks at Meta-Wiki.[3] This global lock was granted on October 27.[4]

On November 5, Hirabutor, a confirmed sockpuppet of Tirgil34, made personal attacks at Wiktionary on me and other Wikipedia editors.[5] Could you request a global lock for Hirabutor as well? Krakkos (talk) 19:31, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Krakkos, Hirabutor is blocked as a sock but not a confirmed sock. Hirabutor's behaviour on Wiktionary is a matter for Wiktionary's processes, not enwiki's. Finally, looking through the archive of Tirgil34's SPI it looks like you're more acquainted with the history and better placed than me to make the case for a global lock at m:SRG. Cabayi (talk) 12:49, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Alright, no worries. Krakkos (talk) 10:50, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

DeepMap

Hi - just a courtesy heads up that I improved an article that you prodded, DeepMap. Let me know if you think it's better now. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:30, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Timtempleton, thanks for the heads up. You've done a solid effort in improving the article, however the company itself is still not notable.
The promise of an NYTimes reference was disappointing as it turned out to be just a mention in a list (not WP:SIGCOV) done by CB Insights (who they?), just churnalism at its basest.
The Bloomberg ref promised rich pickings from Ford's backing of the company, but turned out to be Ford "working with" DeepMap while actually investing in other companies. Ford are obviously trying to pick a winner in the field and, while maintaining good relations, don't necessarily see DeepMap as that eventual winner.
The rest just seems to be coverage of the company's funding rounds which aren't of encyclopedic interest. Honestly, it still fails WP:NCORP.
Reading the refs has made me more aware (in a "well, duh, of course" moment) of :
  • the unwillingness of motor companies to surrender their dashboards to Google & Apple,
  • the more accurate mapping required ahead of the marketing of self-drive cars, and
  • the impending ability of Google & Apple to quite literally drive traffic to their advertisers' sites.
There's likely an interesting article there, but this profile of one small player in the field, which has made little noise outside its fundraising, isn't it. Cabayi (talk) 14:08, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Timtempleton, I've raised an AFD - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DeepMap. Cabayi (talk) 14:22, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

December 2019

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If you believe the linked site is not violating copyright with respect to the material, then you should do one of the following:

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If the material is available on a different site that satisfies one of the above conditions, link to that site instead. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 04:56, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Request on 04:00:32, 18 December 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Paul sachudhanandam


My posts are frequently targeted by Cabayi, please help me to improve the article.

Paul sachudhanandam (talk) 04:00, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas, Cabayi!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity.CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:04, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks CAPTAIN RAJU, I hope you and yours also have a merry Christmas and a great 2020. Cabayi (talk) 22:20, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Good luck

豊かな十年へようこそ/WELCOME TO THE D20s

Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune.
このミラPはCabayiたちのメリークリスマスも新年も変革と幸運の豊かな十年をおめでとうございます！
フレフレ、みんなの未来！/GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FUTURE!
ミラP 04:24, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Miraclepine, and may the twenties be as kind to you and yours. Cabayi (talk) 05:40, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

SPI

In case you might have missed the pings, I would ask if you can revisit Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/संदेश हिवाळे especially the most recent diffs I provided[6]? Thanks. Aman Kumar Goel(Talk) 20:16, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Aman.kumar.goel don't worry, the case will get further consideration. Since I understand neither Hindi nor Marathi, and there's a chunk of new evidence on those wikis, I'm not the clerk to do it. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 17:26, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Ducks

Hey Cabayi, 2 ducks Professor (Chief) Kolawole Waziri Olagboyega & Olagboyega created their own userpage with the same content. And since i don't know where to report this specifically (CU is not needed), going through a clerk might be the best option. Hope you can help. Thanks :) Minorax (talk) 08:39, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Minorax,

  • SPI is still the place, you just skip the "Request CheckUser evidence" checkbox (if you're using Twinkle). BUT, on the basis of what they've done so far, it's possible they're WP:VALIDALT accounts.
  • I'd be inclined to nominate the pages for WP:U5 and see where the narcissism takes them.
Isn't your RFA on commons done yet? Good luck, Cabayi (talk) 09:04, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, I've nominated the userpages for U5. As regards to the RFA, the support is at 69-70% so it's not gonna pass, thanks for your support anyways :) Minorax (talk) 09:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Minorax, I should also have said (if I'd been fully awake at the time and had my first coffee), that cautioning each of them with {{uw-agf-sock}} would be useful. It ensures they're aware of the community's expectations, and removes any defence by claiming ignorance. I've tagged them.
Shame about the RFA. If it hadn't been side-tracked by the mistaken sock accusation it would have been safely over the line. I hope you recover from the mishap and I wish you better luck next time. Cabayi (talk) 11:17, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Thank you :) Minorax (talk) 12:00, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
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