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Hagia Sophia, again

Hello Alessandro,

In accordance with WP:BRD, as you have frequently cited in order to intimidate users from attempting to improve Wikipedia, I would kindly ask that you refrain from editing the Hagia Sophia article and adding elements which make it even worse than the original state without any consensus whatsoever. For any disagreements, I encourage you to pursue a civil dialogue in the talk page and respond to valid arguments and concerns rather than dismissing criticism. Thank you. --` (talk) 03:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello again, my remarks were directed towards your "museum" edit, which you have gracefully removed. I thank you. However, I would kindly mention that I had made no attempt to change the naming. That had been done by another user. Furthermore, your refusal to continue the discussion on the talk page and address my concerns effectively guarantees that no "consensus" will ever be reached. If you are truly willing to engage in a discussion, please do continue our discussion on the talk page - I welcome it. However, please do realize that as it is you who has, to date, failed to defend your stance against my concerns, it is up to you to either continue the discourse or call for third-party intervention, not me, and that my stance, rather than yours, will prevail by default should you continue to not respond to my concerns. Thank you for your understanding. --` (talk) 06:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello for a third time, although the necessity of having to solicit a response to my main argument for the seventh time is distressing. So, one more time: all Byzantine buildings that may or may not have been mosques but are now museums have their names listed in a way so that Greek comes first, including the Hagia Sophia's names as listed in the parentheses within introductory paragraph of the same article. Thus, the different order in the listing of names within the infobox is both confusing and conflicting with the rest of Wikipedia. Wikipedia's editing process cannot occur if you stubbornly and arrogantly claim victory and block changes without ever even remotely adequately addressing or even acknowledging concerns the other party has raised, and certainly cannot occur when you proceed to send rude, threatening (never mind poorly spell-checked) communication to other Wikipedians. My request is simple: please address the concern I have been civilly directing at you for the past month, which I have included, as always, in my message despite your continued ignorance of it, or please stop accusing me of failing to seek consensus.--` (talk) 07:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Thank you for addressing my concern for the first time in half a month. Now we can actually have a legitimate conversation on friendly terms. I honestly don't see why the lead-in should be changed rather than the infobox, seeing that the lead-ins for other Orthodox churches turned mosques turned museums also have lead-ins that feature Greek first, which would make changing the lead-ins a much more disruptive thing to do. Moreover, while I understand there isn't a rule stating that lead-ins and infoboxes should correspond, they should to maximize Wikipedia's utility and clarity to the reader, no?

Thanks again. --` (talk) 08:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Formal mediation has been requested

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Ostia (Rome)

Interwiki links are already replaced by Wikidata. Zhaofeng Li [talk... contribs...] 07:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

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Rome

Have you got any sources of RAI's involvement in production? Every source I can find only mentions HBO and BBC. Regards --Allthestrongbowintheworld (talk) 17:02, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Languages of Europe

hello. take a look. thanks 178.94.56.243 (talk) 05:32, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay

As we say in Italy "better late than never". Thanks.--EnStat (talk) 15:42, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Mogadishu

Hi. Mogadishu and Rome are not sister cities. The link alludes to a novel/fiction, not reality. In actuality, Mogadishu's sister cities are Almaty and Istanbul. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:45, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Arap Mosque

Hi Alessandro57! It's about your removal of the inscription's image. It is a fact that the inscription is attached next to the mosque's entrance. I would expect that the text points out to this misleading fact rather than ignoring it at all. Cheers. --CeeGee 06:30, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Italian GDP

All main articles similar to Italy like USA or France and many other main ones set already IMF 2014 data for GDP.the italian nominal GDP in 2014 is according to IMF 2,171 trillions $,the GDP ppp 1,808 trillions $,the nominal GDP per capita 36216 $ and the GDP ppp per capita is 30803 $.You can find all these data in the article List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) and related ones based on IMF Economic Database Outlook, april 2014.Italy it's ranked 8th and not 9th in fact Italy overtakes Russia.It's time to update in front of evidence.Thanks.89.97.225.68 (talk) 07:52, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

I answered on the article`s talk page. Alex2006 (talk) 08:22, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

I cited all to update.If you'll leave all dated i'm not guilty.89.97.225.68 (talk) 08:24, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

No, the refs are still the old ones. You should change also them! Alex2006 (talk) 08:36, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Venetian Republic (2014)

I proposed this article "Venetian Republic (2014)" for the deletion. Could you tell us what do you think? Thank you in advance.--Ghepa90 (talk) 07:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Fondiaria-Sai

Can you give an explanation of your reverting edit? Better if you use the discussion page. Thanks. --Titiuscaiussempronius (talk) 10:16, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Uzbekistan

If you edit the page "Uzbekistan" without asking for the opinions of other users regarding your edit you will be blocked from the editing the article "Uzbekistan." -- 10:18, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Language issue in Italy

Hi Alessandro. I used again the note a because Law number 482 of 15 December 1999 says that those languages are just protected by law (it's different from recognized). The same law states that Italian is the official language. The only languages recognized and co-official with Italian in particular regions and territories are French, German, Ladin and Slovene whose recognition is explained by Italian constitution and bilateral treaties (and this is already explained in the note a of the infobox).--EnStat (talk) 10:18, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Kastellorizo

Hi Alessandro,

My name is Pantazis Houlis and I live in Kastellorizo. I am not sure of the purpose of deleting the link Kastellorizo.net. To me it seems you have not navigated yourself enough into it to appreciate its content.

For example:

1. It contains valuable information (especially the Greek version) regarding the origin of the name, including photos of the covers of extremely important books. 2. Direct links towards (extremely difficult to find for a normal user) to important old videos (1929 and 1943). 3. Direct communication with the seismic spot at the island (it was added recently). 4. Recent updates of the island's important phones for anyone to use (not just for "tourists"). 5. Many maps, including a huge old one (for archive purposes) which was directly donated by the Peiraius Kastellorizian Association and we have been given permission to put it online. More old maps to be added, as we have not scanned them yet.

Apart from this, it contains a lot more useful information, and I do not understand the scope of branding this site as "touristic", because it has absolutely no commercial gain in anyway (no paid advertisements).

Please explain to me this action. I believe you are using your status to have your way, and this is not fair for the island.

Pantazis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pantazis Houlis (talk • contribs) 13:52, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Removal Link from Hagia Sophia and Bosphorus Page

Dear Alessandro57,

I have just received the notice of external link removal about Hagia Sophia and Bosphorus Pages with the reason of violation.

However seeking your kind review of pages that linked has pure content and has no commercial use.

Respecting your kind judgement related with rules of wikipedia.

Yours Sincerely, Gokhan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Makanpagi (talk • contribs) 07:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Armenia discussion

Hi Alessandro57,

You undid my removal of the image

Seizure of Yerevan fortress by Russian troops in 1827 by Franz Roubaud.

. I explained the reason in my original post. This image is the same as on Yerevan site (capital of Armenia) and on Erivan fortress site (the old Yerevan). Note that no other picture repetitively appears in all those sites. I think the administrators should watch for these instances and prevent such cases themselves.

Regards, Cyber-Policeman (talk) 17:48, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

why?

hi, I look this, but in Sicily the name real is Trinacrìa! --SURDUS^(VII) 15:22, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

ho capito e grazie della risposta :) salutamu e bacemu li mani :D --SURDUS^(VII) 17:09, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

per curiosità siete siciliano?? --SURDUS^(VII) 18:02, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks, I just did what you suggested on Armenia talk page. Cyber-Policeman (talk) 21:33, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Good day

Allow me to explain you a most simple concept: you (neither I, or anyone else, for that matter) can decide, establish and publish, which number is enough to come under the definition of many.

Perhaps you will fail to understand, so I'll use a most simple example: I may have eaten 20 candies, but you cannot decide they're many. At least, not on an encyclopedia! ( ;) ). How dare you judge on my indulgence in the joys of sugar?! 20 candies may not be many for my stomach. They may be few.

So I demand you at once to quit this disgusting hatemongering. State the number of these alleged camps, and source your statement. That many will disappear, till then. --80.181.225.114 (talk) 16:12, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Country map

Hello, I think the map reversal from wiki's administrators should have been done few days ago when the long-standing dark green/light green map was replaced with dark green only. Based on wiki experience, a country map shows in light green uncontrolled territories (e.g., Georgia, Pakistan, Ukraine). Why Azerbaijan is an exception? Thanks, 135.23.201.115 (talk) 15:21, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Anonymous troublemaker at 80.181.225.114

Hello Alex- I see from the talk page of the above IP that you have also run into trouble with this person. Have you brought it to anyone else's attention? I'm considering putting something on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. I'll watch here for your answer. Eric ^talk 23:18, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi again- FYI, I reported the IP on ANI and at Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism#User-reported. Eric ^talk 23:48, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Eric, and thanks for writing! Yes, I agree, I was also going to report him. Anyway, I think that he is a typical case of disruptive Editor, so he belongs to ANI. We will see there :-) Alex2006 (talk) 04:36, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your input at the ANI, Alex. I think it might be helpful to change lager to camps so more anglophone readers will understand, and to change the South Tyrol link to the article's history. But I wanted to check with you first before editing your comment. What do you think? Eric ^talk 12:57, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

I agree with you about both points,Eric. In Italy and Switzerland, where I live, "lager" is understood quite well, but this is for sure not the case in the anglophone world... Alex2006 (talk) 13:27, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Country map

Hi, why did you revert the map of Azerbaijan with uncontrolled territories to the one without? All countries on wikipedia with uncontrolled territories are shown in dark-light greet palette. It was the case with this country too until few days ago. Do I miss something here? Cyber-Policeman (talk) 19:00, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Alessandro,

Please see additional information on the Azerbaijan talk page regarding the map issue. Note that the map of Azerbaijan was shown in light green/dark green colors for more than 95% of time since November 2012 already based on discussion on the talk page. It was reverted to a single color format without following a proper procedure.

Cyber-Policeman (talk) 15:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

So you're attracted to brown-haired women huh? :-P

Have you ever been to the Middle East? :-) --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 11:38, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Brown-haired people are extremely rare in Kuwait, but I'm one of them. :-P Have you ever been to places like Kuwait, Dubai, etc? :-) --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 11:51, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

You might want to take a look at this

User talk:180.200.141.39 - you reverted most of his edits, but see the link I added at the bottom and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2 - as you can see, besides the fact that he was clearly deliberately using misleading edit summaries, those edits were in violation of the ArbCom decision. I'm guessing it might be a blocked editor but I could be wrong. Dougweller (talk) 12:24, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

You're supposed to assume good faith, Alex

Hi Alex. I just read a comment you wrote in the talk page of user Kwamikagami:

Turkish Language

Good morning,

actually on Talk:Turkish language there is a discussion of the same time that you are having about Azeri language. I would be glad if you could bring there your opinion. The problem there does not seem to be big one at first glance, but this edit is part of an agenda, pursued on different articles, to "Europize" different languages and peoples. Alex2006 (talk) 09:22, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Link: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#Turkish_Language

First of all, you're supposed to assume good faith with regard to the contributions of all editors, not the least of whom are the well-established editors of Wikipedia. Your assumption that my edits are part of an agenda to "Europeanize" different languages and peoples is a false accusation on your part. Furthermore, all edits I have made to these articles are indisputably factual. I was rather disappointed to read that comment from you.

Last but not least, if you want to invite another editor for a third opinion, then by all means do so. But the fact you chose this specific editor -- who was involved in disruptive editing, deliberate removal of content and abuse of tags vandalism -- could only be seen as an attempt to gain consensus via canvassing. By all means, Wikipedia allows us to invite other editors to offer their views, but bringing this to the attention of user Kwamikagami, who was edit-warring and refusing to discuss his content dispute with me in another article talk page just recently, is unfortunately a form of canvassing.

Have a good night. :-) --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 21:26, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Kutsuit, sorry, I don`t agree: first of all, I think that you are doing your edits in perfect good faith: you are just trying to let pass your POV that some countries (Azerbaijan, Turkey) are a little bit more European than they are in reality, and you really believe it: there are several edits of you that points all in this direction. Now, at the moment there are three editors who all have the same problem with you, in three different article, about the same issue. This means that we have here a general problem, and I find just normal to discuss this problem all together. Canvassing, means to invite friendly, uninvolved users to support your views, but this is not the case: moreover, in that case I would have invited him to join this discussion with a mail, instead of writing a message just below a message of you, where you were waiting for an answer: this shows full transparency. Good morning :-) Alex2006 (talk) 02:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry Alex, but you weren't assuming good faith regarding my edits, otherwise you wouldn't have falsely accused me of being part of an agenda to "Europeanize" certain languages and peoples. All of my edits on Wikipedia have attempted to make the articles more neutral, informative and encyclopedic. My edits have made articles more consistent. The inconsistency of including the likes of Azerbaijan and Turkey in some Europe-related articles (but not in others) had to be corrected. I've made articles more consistent and more neutral, and expanded the definitions of certain terms with reliable sources. Therefore, if there are people who have a problem with me stating the facts then that's their problem. All information, concerning countries at the crossroads of Europe and Asia, that I've added to Europe-related articles have been cited by reliable sources, therefore for you to suggest to another member that I have an agenda constitutes a personal attack. Good morning to you too. ;-) --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 09:25, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Last but not least, I'm not trying to push any POV. That also constitutes not assuming good faith on your part, unfortunately. If you must know, there are many things I disagree with, but it doesn't stop me from trying to make articles encyclopedic. For instance, there's a particular political party that I downright despise, but every time a disputable edit is made to its page, I have to remove it because it's denied by the party, even if I believe what the edit says. I'm not here to push a POV. I'm here to classify things correctly and neutrally. --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 09:33, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I spotted another form of canvassing on your part, Alex

Alex, not only have you engaged in canvassing with user Kwamikagami, as mentioned in the posts above, but I have also seen you attempt another form of canvassing with user Psychonaut.

Before you deny it, here are the problems with your messages to these users:

1. With Kwamikagami, you have used a tactic known as "campaigning", by falsely suggesting to the user that I have an agenda to Europeanize certain languages and peoples.

2. With Psychonaut, you have used a tactic known as "vote-stacking", since you are already aware of the dispute I have with the said user in another topic, and therefore are fully aware of what opinions he may hold when it comes to disputes that I'm involved with.

This is the message you sent to Psychonaut:

Turkish Language

Good morning,

actually on Talk:Turkish language there is a discussion related to your discussion about Turkish in Languages of Europe. I would be glad if you could bring there your opinion. Alex2006 (talk) 09:15, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I will say it one last time, Alex. If you try to game the system by attracting consensus again, I'll have you reported to the admins. You have actually rendered your contribution in the Languages of Europe talk page irrelevant by resorting to these tactics. --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 12:41, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Kutsuit, Alex's contacting me was probably not canvassing, because according to the guideline, contacting "editors who have participated in previous discussions on the same topic (or closely related topics)" with a neutrally worded invitation to contribute is expressly permited as a form of appropriate notification. You and I were already engaging in a discussion of European vs. Asian Turkish speakers elsewhere. As long as Alex wasn't selective in contacting me (to the exclusion of other people involved in other discussions on the same topic), this was not problematic. It certainly wasn't votestacking as I never took him up on his offer to participate.

This is the second or third time in just a few minutes where you've issued bogus warnings to users based on imagined rule violations. (In one recent example, you told me that I broke a rule about issuing user talk templates. However, the "rule" you linked to is merely an essay, and in any case I never issued any user talk template to you.) Please cool it with the accusations. —Psychonaut (talk) 13:02, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your post Psychonaut. As I explained to Kuitsuit, I invited you and another user to discuss this issue together since all three of us were involved in discussions on very similar subjects at the same time with her on three different articles. Moreover, if someone with some experience wants really to canvass, he/she uses the email, and not the talk page. :-) Alex2006 (talk) 13:14, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Speaking of "don't shoot yourself in the foot"...

Speaking of Wikipedia:Don't shoot yourself in the foot, I strongly advise you to take caution before escalating matters by bringing administrators into our disputes. The last thing you want to do is let the administrators know about your canvassing (i.e. campaigning and vote-stacking), edit-warring, deliberate removal of sourced content (i.e. blanking/illegitimate vandalism), stalking, false accusations (of me having an agenda and a POV to push), personal attacks, inability to assume good faith, etc. You've been involved in all of these things and perhaps more, therefore my advice to you is to settle the disputes you have with me in a civilized way. If you want to escalate the issue, it's your call, but trust me it wont end good for either of us. If, however, you want to settle your disputes properly -- and trust me, I've settled disputes with so many editors before you -- then I suggest you stop your personal attacks, false accusations, canvassing and removal of sourced content, and look for a compromise. That's my final suggestion. --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 09:00, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Florestano Di Fausto

The DYK project (nominate) 21:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

July 2014

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 16:25, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Early bird

You must be an "early to beeed and, early to risee, makes a man healthy and wealthy and wiiiiiiiise" case. What time is it in Italia? Last night you forgot to sign your last discussion. Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 05:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

That's correct, Why should I have a User Name :-) . I go to sleep at 9, and wake up at 5 (aaaargh!). Now here it's 7:35, GMT+1. And what time is it where you live? BTW, Iyi Bayramlar! Alex2006 (talk) 05:36, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. 8:41. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 05:41, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Then you are in Turkey Why should I have a User Name :-) (Istanbul?) Alex2006 (talk) 05:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Ankara, the capital, at the moment. But I will be away in a few days. Good-bye. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 05:49, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Big mistake in Italy presentation

Italy in its presentation is ranked 9th as nominal GDP in 2012 according to IMF data and this wrong.In 2012 (see List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) )Italy was ranked 8th after the last revision in April 2014.In 2014 April data Italy is ranked 8th too by the 2014 year.This shuould be updated please like for all countries .All countries are ranked by 2014 data by IMF.if you check Russia is ranked 9th so we can't be 9th neither in 2012 neither in 2014.In this page are the Symbols of the Italian State that must be respected for their prestige.Can you updated these data?If you don't understand me ask me ,i'm italian too.Thanks Alessandro.Gladio4772 (talk) 14:29, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Hallo User:Gladio4772, you could do it too: is there any special reason why you are asking me to do it? Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 05:38, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I can't unlock Italy article.Non posso aprire la voce "Italia".Andrebbe scritto che l'Italia e' ottava e non nona come pil nominale secondo i dati di Aprile 2014 del FMI.Non solo e' vecchio il dato sul 2012 nella presentazione ma anche sbagliato.Non so come fare...andrebbe scritto nella presentazione e nella parte dell'economia della voce Italy che l'Italia ' ottava per pil nominale nel 014 secondo l'FMI.Ho fatto presente nel profilo che sono invalido bipolare con forti disturbi.I wrote you in italian to make all easier.Can ou help me to correct in the right way?Thanks a lot!Gladio4772 (talk) 06:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

About Central Asia

Why do you delete "It is one of the six independent Turkic states." from Central Asia Turkic countries' pages. This is not wrong information. I live in there and you cannot do that. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaiserpnemonia (talk • contribs) 15:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

I answered on your talk page. Alex2006 (talk) 17:41, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Revert on Alitalia

Hi Alessandro57,

You reverted my good faith edit to the Alitalia article by referring to "consensus". But you did not refer to where that "consensus" is to be found (and as I am not part of that consensus, it can hardly any longer be called a consensus; at most a previous / past consensus). I can find nothing about it on the talk page of Alitalia, neither on the talk page of the Carpatair article. It do not find it okay to refer to a claimed consensus without linking to it, especially if it is not even part of the current article's talk page. This is Wikipedia, so references and fact checking is crucial; this also includes any claims of "consensus".

Furthermore, you did not move the information to the Carpatair article, even though you said it belonged there. So the result was that you just deleted the information instead of moving it to where you believe is the right place for it. I do not find that okay either. If you don't have the time to finish the job, don't start it. In the future, add the information to what you believe is the right place first, and then delete it from what you believe to be the wrong place if you still have time and energy left to do it.

--Jhertel (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

delete

Why you delete my changes? Seka123 (talk) 08:22, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Italian art in Dalmatia

Can you please state what is undue in writing that the influence of Italian art goes beyon the borders of modern Italy? Silvio1973 (talk) 10:45, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Le premetto che stiamo parlando di una linea e mezza di testo. E' cosi' inappropriato rispetto all'influenza dell'arte italiana in Dalmazia?

A barnstar for you

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For all your high-quality content work, a grateful project has awarded you this Tireless Barnstar. Bishonen | talk 18:40, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Etymology and food history

The name of a food can be a useful hint about the food's origin, but it is just one piece of evidence among others. And of course the word history has to be studied just as critically as anything else. The sources given in the dolma article for a supposed origin as Armenian toli 'leaf' are not very strong, and not very convincing. Where is the documentation? Why would toli become tolma? For another example of a dubious and forced food etymology, see the supposed Coptic etymology for falafel (and the corresponding discussion on the Talk page). For that matter, there are Greeks who refuse to believe that γύρος is a calque of Turkish döner -- but it used to be called ντονέρ in Greek! --Macrakis (talk) 02:54, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Dolma

3RR bloock for the other editor, but you seem to be at 3RR also, so I'd leave it for a while. Start a discussion on the talk page if you haven't already. No terrible rush, you don't want someone else to block you (or me of course, I can't let one person edit war and block another, but it shouldn't come to that). Dougweller (talk) 09:09, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Reverts

Undoing part of someone's edit counts as a revert.Dougweller (talk) 11:51, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Google translate edits

I don't know if you might like to copyedit Palazzo FAO? I think some of it it may have been written by feeding phrases from La Stampa into Google translate. :-( Bishonen | talk 14:21, 21 August 2014 (UTC).

RE:Question

Hi Alex2006. It is 'tolma' in Georgian. Acquired from Turkish i believe. elmasmelih 07:27, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Altieri family

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:12, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Altieri family

You're welcome! I'd also like to suggest that in the first line, "history" is probably better than "story". Awien (talk) 17:42, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Copying my comment

Alessandro, it was inappropriate for you to copy my comment on your Talk page to Talk:Dolma. If I want to write on Talk:Dolma, I can do it myself. It is wrong to take my personal response to you and copy it to Talk:Dolma. --Macrakis (talk) 20:29, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Yet another barnstar

		WikiProject Architecture Award
		A well-deserved addition to your collection, for a long-running series of excellent articles on the historic landmarks of Istanbul, with an eclectic sprinkling of interesting articles on Kastellorizo or Italian architecture. Well done and as always, keep it up! Constantine ✍ 18:06, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Grüsse und alles Beste aus Wien ;) !

DYK for Cistern of Aetius

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Rospigliosi family

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:27, 1 September 2014 (UTC) 12:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Marvellous article with great writing, well done. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 12:46, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Kontoskalion

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Suleiman the Maginiticeft

Hello,I think he had a daughter Nuriye Gul with Fulane ,and son Abdullah too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SekaNovi02 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

You have to add a reliable source (as a book, NO blogs, etc.) to this info. Alex2006 (talk) 09:18, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Rome

You reverted my edit in the article about Italy. Your motivation: the comparison is among cities, and "urban area" is not a precise concept. Granted. Neither is "city", which a typical ill-defined concept. Italy's capital is the most populous commune in Italy, not the biggest metropolitan area. It is also larger than Paris (the commune) or the city of London or any of the boroughs of New York City, by the number of its inhabitants. Yet it would be ridiculous to say, or imply, that Rome is larger than London or Paris or New York. Administrative divisions do not catch the social and economic phenomenon of an urban area. Rome has many distinctions, but it's not the most populous metropolitan area in Italy; Milan and Naples are larger.

One little question. Why is it significant to mention the size of the commune but not of its metropolitan area?

However, I won't revert the edit. I'm in no mood to start an edit war. But I do suggest that you think about it and see if your reversal was justified. Pan Brerus (talk) 22:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Your Edits at South Tyrol

Hi Alessandro,

thank you for your message. I am not sure which discussion thread you are referring to. The province is however triple-language in its status, therefore it is correct to use at least the original German name and the Italian version of it. Thank you. Gryffindor (talk) 09:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

What you seem to be referring to is the name of the cities, not what the captions of the streets should be called. Where in the discussion does it state how the name of the streets should be given? Gryffindor (talk) 09:55, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Alessandro, not a problem. I have left both German and Italian names in the image caption, I hope that is acceptable as a compromise? Gryffindor (talk) 09:59, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

I completely agree with you. I wish you a nice day. Gryffindor (talk) 10:01, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Question

Hi.. I am from persian wikipedia; so sorry if i have an awful language. I have question from you. I changed the picture of Maiden's Tower, because Not only the new one but also the quality than the pervious one. So is it not better to replace it?--Farshid . Talk 09:01, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cistern of Mocius

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Mussolini

I have had a go at understanding how to edit Wikipedia. It is very complicated! Anyway, here is a suggested change to the Mussolini article:

Suggested text, replace:

Originally a member of the Italian Socialist Party (PSI), Mussolini was expelled from the PSI due to his opposition to the party's stance on neutrality in World War I.

with:

In 1912 Mussolini was the leading member of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party (PSI). Prior to 1914 he was a keen supporter of the Socialist International, starting the series of meetings in Switzerland that organised the communist revolutions and insurrections that swept through Europe from 1917. Mussolini was expelled from the PSI due to his opposition to the party's stance on neutrality in World War I.

Thanks for writing! I did not forget this task, but now I am abroad without computer. As soon as I will be back home, I will add this important information! Thanks for your patience. Alex2006 (talk) 10:03, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cistern of Aspar

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK nom/Kızıl Kilise

Hi! My DYK nom/Kızıl Kilise was stopped due to "close paraphrasing" issues. I've been advised to ask someone for help. As I know that you're interested in historical churches in Turkey and you're good in English I kindly ask you to copyedit the article Kızıl Kilise accordingly if you have time. Otherwise, please let me know so that I can ask someone another. Thank you. --CeeGee 08:53, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Neorion Harbour

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:02, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm really enjoying this series of articles on Byzantine infrastructure in Istanbul Nick-D (talk) 04:34, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cistern of the Hebdomon

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Prosphorion Harbour

Hello! Your submission of Prosphorion Harbour at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:34, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Italian Libya

Hello! I was doing some categorization work on Libyan history, and am rather puzzled by the existence of two articles and categories for what appears to be the same thing: Italian Libya and Italian North Africa. This is all the more puzzling since the distinction is not made in the Italian WP, as far as I can see. The issue had come up before at Talk:Italian Libya, but apparently nothing was done about it. Before merging the articles myself, I thought I'd better ask the only Italian I know around here ;) Constantine ✍ 19:49, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Constantine, and thanks for writing, and for your mail of last week! I just came back from three weeks vacation (Karpas, I Polis and Roma Urbs). The answer is easy: in North Africa Italy had in the beginning two colonies, Tripolitania and Cirenaica. After the conquest of Fezzan and the appointment of Balbo as general governor, in 1934 the territory was organized as a single colony, named Libya, a name which was "recovered" from Latin by Italian geographers to denominate the territory located between Tunisia and Egypt, and that was already used after 1911, but only in a geographic sense and never in an official form before 1934 (in the guide of Italy of 1929, the territory is still described in two chapters as Tripolitania and Cirenaica, with a small addition about Fezzan and the Sahara oases). The problem is that I never heard the denomination "Africa Settentrionale Italiana" or ASI before: I am afraid that this is a wiki-creation inspired by the much more famous (and official) Africa Orientale Italiana (AOI), a.k.a. "L`Impero", established in 1937. Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 17:34, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello again and welcome back (and I envy you your vacations)! I knew the administrative history, but is there really any point to having two different articles and categories? Would you not agree that one (for simplicity and clarity's sake at "Italian Libya") would suffice? Constantine ✍ 17:39, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Of course, there is no need for two articles, and Libya is the right name, also because this is the common name in the history books. One can point out the administrative divisions in the "history" section. Alex2006 (talk) 17:45, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Great. I'll go ahead and perform the merger then. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 17:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Banzai! :-) Alex2006 (talk) 17:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I see you wasted no time ;). Thanks again. What next, after you finish the harbours? Constantine ✍ 19:47, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Ciao Constantine, next step is for sure the Pretorium (I don't like that last red spot on the template :-)): the problem is that next week my wife will come back from the City, and it will be the end again for my free time :-( Alex2006 (talk) 12:20, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Prosphorion Harbour

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Mihrimah Sultan

Hi Alessandro57,Mihrimah was 2nd Haseki Sultan of Otoman Empire after her mother Hurrem Sultan. Mihrimah father Sultan Suleiman THE Magnficent died In 1566, She was not only a Princess BUT also assumed the title of Valide Sultan because her mother Hurrem sultan died before her father in 1558, and she is conscider the 1st most beautiful lady of Ottoman empire and HER mother Hurrem Sultan consider the 2nd most beautiful lady. Hurrem was he officeholder of the title haseki sultan and then succeeded by mihrimah and then nurbanu. the valida ayse hafsa sultan was the officeholder of the title valida sultan n then mihrimah assumed the tile of valide sultan. plz admin take action on haseki topic and valide sultan.I want to send u some portrait of Mihrimah sultan bt I cannot know that how can it upload. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Ghunchaali43 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghunchaali43 (talk • contribs) 05:09, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Saiman Miah

Dear Alessandro, I invite you to express your opinion about the article for deletion. --Rossi101 (talk) 19:17, 20 October 2014 (UTC)Rossi101

ITALY PRESENTATION

Italy according the citation is a "major european power able to exert its influence on the global scale".Antiochus the Great (see history of the article) without passing by a discussion in Italy Talk changed it .He cut what he liked and added "middle".A major european power is AT LEAST a MAIN MIDDLE power .In Italy article are the Italian State Symbols and their prestige must be respected.He seems to have too personal opinions in writing as reported also in his talk by other people.Time to restore the old presentation.Thanks.151.40.121.76 (talk) 15:29, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Ali Qushji

Ali Qushji was ethnic Uzbek. He is not Turkish. I am a college history teacher and I am pretty sure I know the fact. Please do not revert my edit thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Izzy.neon (talk • contribs) 20:10, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Kızıl Kilise

Alex, please respond to Nikkimaria's post here; there are some issues from your recent edits that need to be resolved before the review can continue. Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 19:28, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Hallo BlueMoonset, Nikkimaria is happy now! I hope that CeeGee will at least thank us :-) Alex2006 (talk) 06:38, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Alessandro! I'm back again after so long time. I had very limited access to WP in that time period. I appreciate very much your efforts as I see that you contributed a great part of that work. Gracia mille! I hope I can do also something for you whenever you are in need. Ciao for now! --CeeGee 16:06, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

About Safiye Sultan

Leslie P. Peirce is biased and subjective. She bashes Safiye Sultan and praises Nurbanu Sultan. She ruined the identity of Safiye Sultan. Remember that. 95.7.172.79 (talk) 11:12, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

I repeat: you should bring reliable sources, and discuss them on the talk page: a signature on a letter - altough interesting - is only WP:OR. Alex2006 (talk) 16:08, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Kazandibi

	Kazandibi
	Thank you. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:05, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cuisine of Corsica

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:02, 6 December 2014 (UTC)