User talk:Alessandro57/Archive 2
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DYK for Church of St. Mary of the Spring (Istanbul)
On 6 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Church of St. Mary of the Spring (Istanbul), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
-- Cirt (talk) 00:04, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Maria-Martha Palaiologina
Hello again! Yes, I have some info: she was the eldest sister of Michael VIII (and the eldest among the siblings in general). She married Nikephoros Tarchaneiotes and had four children: Andronikos Tarchaneiotes, Michael Tarchaneiotes, John Tarchaneiotes and Theodora Tarchaneiotissa. I'll see if I can find a book with more details. Constantine ✍ 13:26, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Manastır Mosque, Istanbul
On 9 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Manastır Mosque, Istanbul, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Manastır Mosque (pictured) in Istanbul is one of the few surviving Byzantine religious buildings of Constantinople whose dedication remains uncertain? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Şeyh Süleyman Mosque
Hello! Your submission of Şeyh Süleyman Mosque at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!
I think you should go with a different hook and find some kind of reference for the location. Per Wikipedia:Did you know/Additional rules D2, we can't have uncited paragraphs :( Shouldn't be a big deal though :) Thanks for another interesting read! — Toдor Boжinov — 20:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Şeyh Süleyman Mosque
On 8 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Şeyh Süleyman Mosque, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Şeyh Süleyman Mosque in Istanbul was almost certainly an annex of Constantinople's Monastery of Pantokrator in the Byzantine Age? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Gatoclass (talk) 06:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
San Domenico
Hello Alessandro! Your action was quite correct. There are a number of policies that deal with this, chiefly Wikipedia:Content forking. In essence, this user created a content fork with no apparent value as a stand-alone article, and without even crediting the original author/article as required per Wikipedia:Splitting. Happy Christmas to you and your family too! Constantine ✍ 08:58, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
- The situation is bad. Not yet hopeless, but bad. People are losing their jobs, and those who have them often get unpaid as there isn't any cash available. Rents, debts and salaries are often not paid for months at a time. We are still waiting for some research grants we were "definitely" promised in September and which we don't know when and if they will ever come. I've got colleagues who are owed arrears for teaching jobs at universities for over a year now. Those who suffer most are lower middle-class people, i.e. the bulk of the population, but mostly in Athens. The provinces have not yet felt the impact so hard, chiefly because there is the usual "big family" support mechanism, and because life is about 50% cheaper there than the capital. But I can tell you, if someone shot a politician tomorrow (regardless of which party, the political system is thoroughly discredited), quite a few would applaud it. Constantine ✍ 09:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Help wanted from Italian speaker
Hi Alessandro57. I am randomly messaging a few users listed at [[Category:User it-N]] in the hope of getting input into a disagreement on the OR noticeboard regarding the use of an Italian language source. The basic question is whether a particular source can or cannot be used to support particular article content. Users currently involved in the discussion (me included) do not have a high level of proficiency in Italian, so a little help would be appreciated. If you have the time to spare, thanks in advance and the discussion is here: Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard#Murder of Meredith Kercher.--FormerIP (talk) 23:02, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
You recently set up a merge proposal for the Roman cuisine article and didn't complete it. I just established the discussion on the talk page, and would like to ask if you could please provide a reason why you believe it should be merged after the summary I provided? --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 21:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Little Hagia Sophia
Hello Alessandro! Nice photos indeed! For the video, AFAIK all Wikipedia cares about is that it is properly licensed. We don't really go for the "religious sensitivities" thing (or any other sort of sensitivity), so for instance we have photos of Bahá'u'lláh, we have depictions of Muhammad etc. It is the user's business how he got the video, but as long as it was he who did it, he can upload it and use it as he wants. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 10:38, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Go ahead! He has an amazing mastery of colours, I wish I could take photos half as good as his... Constantine ✍ 11:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Turkish Airlines and edit summaries
Hi! I notice you removed the Turkish Airlines headquarters while saying in your edit summary "Sources added" - Unfortunately that was not an adequate edit summary. When you remove things, you should have some kind of explanation as to why you are removing them, in your edit summary
Anyway I added back Turkish Airlines. A neighborhood article needs to cover the major corporations with head offices in the neighborhood. Turkish Airlines is the national airline of Turkey, so Bakirkoy needs to cover the airline. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:27, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Aha! I had the impression that Bakirköy dealt with the district. Where is the article about the district? Which Bakirkoy is tr:Bakırköy, İstanbul about? WhisperToMe (talk) 07:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- I see. So to disambiguate one could say "Bakirköy (district)" and move the map to the district, since the map seems to reflect the district and not the neighborhood. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:40, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's pretty late. I need to be going to bed soon ... :) WhisperToMe (talk) 09:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Do you do Zurich area photo requests? If so, if you don't mind, I have a few to present WhisperToMe (talk) 18:19, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Zurich photo requests
Here are the two photos I want the most:
- Swiss International Air Lines office at Zurich Airport in Kloten. OBSTGARTENSTRASSE 25, 8302 KLOTEN This is a map showing how to reach the office - This is for the Swiss International Air Lines article
- Swiss WorldCargo is in the same building. It might have a side of the building that says Swiss World Cargo; if so please photograph that side. The WorldCargo map is here
- Skyguide office at Zurich Airport - Map - Especially important as it was involved in the Bashkirian Airlines crash in 2002 - This is for the Skyguide and the 2002 Überlingen mid-air collision articles.
And if you want to do more, perhaps a few others:
- Edelweiss Air at Zurich Airport - map
- Gate Gourmet - Borddienststrasse 8058 Zurich Airport Switzerland
- Kraft Foods Europe - Lindbergh-Allee 1 8152 Glattpark Switzerland
- Zimex Aviation - Cherstrasse 4 8152 Glattbrugg Map
- Swissport - Flughofstrasse 55 8152 Glattbrugg - Map
- Belair - Sägereistrasse 27 8152 Glattbrugg
While the following is at Zurich Airport, I have no additional information (addresses or maps) on how to find it: Helvetic Airways head office
All of them are around the same area, so it should be convenient to get them.
Thank you, WhisperToMe (talk) 23:19, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Pontic genocide
Hello Alex, I hope you are well! Although there are quite a lot of books on it in Greek, personally I am unaware of any English-language publications on the matter. From what I've read, the prevailing opinion among the more serious scholars is that it was not a "genocide" in the sense that there was not a systematic, government-sponsored annihilation campaign as that directed against the Armenians. As you know, labelling an event as "genocide" is mostly a political weapon nowadays and is so frequently used that it has virtually lost its meaning. While the Pontians too were subject to the forced labour battalions during WW1, they were not really targeted for extermination, and some of the local bishops were able to prevent even their conscription in the labour battalions, and in turn protected the Muslim population during the Russian occupation of 1916-1917. Most casualties occurred during the chaotic situation in the Pontus in 1918-1922, when government control collapsed and the countryside was dominated by Greek and Turkish armed bands. Needless to say, violence was reciprocal, but still rather limited. The Turks did not undertake a more systematized suppression and deportation campaign until 1921-22, to remove the threat of a second front during the Greek advance in the west. This sparked the most bloody phase, with a very violent guerrilla warfare going on as the Pontians were driven from the cities to the mountains. On the Turkish side, the bands of Topal Osman, loosely controlled by the Kemalist government, were responsible for several atrocities, while the Pontians too did undertake several reprisals and massacres against Muslim villages. Even so, the number of Pontian victims overall is comparatively low: IIRC, some 25,000-30,000, depending on estimates. It was certainly an act of ethnic cleansing, but if the Kemalists had wanted to eradicate the Pontians, they'd have done it and no one would have been able to do anything about it. Constantine ✍ 13:46, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- I'd say, persist. This mania to label everything as genocide is not only absurd, it is pernicious. The word is so loaded with negative connotations that it only perpetuates hatred and divisions, while distorting the true historical events. It makes a monolithic tale out of the complex weave that is human history, places it on a pedestal with the words "don't touch" upon it, stopping any genuine research and reflection on causes and significance. It must be opposed, whether it comes from Greek, Turkish, Italian, Albanian, Chinese or whatever else nationalists. Constantine ✍ 19:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- PS, Lewellyn Smith is one of my favourite authors too. Even though he is an ardent philhellene, he does not hesitate to call a spade a spade when it comes to what actually happened. I've gifted a Greek edition of his book to most of my friends... Constantine ✍ 19:31, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Well, being a philhellene does not (necessarily) mean being unobjective or biased. Scholars like Finlay, Runciman, Smith, Mazower are all interested in Greece and appreciate and love Greek history, culture and the Greek people, but that doesn't stop them from being objective and telling the dark side, the errors and crimes, of Greek history as well, just like many Greeks do (Sotiriou being an excellent case in point). It's only nationalists who view this as "treason" to the "cause". Personally, I am with Dionysios Solomos: "the nation must learn to consider as national what is true", an adage all too often ignored. Constantine ✍ 10:53, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Rosita Forbes
The Rosita Forbes on my user page was a redline (empty link) I put there a long time ago to remind me I should write an article about her. I never did. So thanks for your effort. She deserves a good article.Verne Equinox (talk) 03:42, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Regime change Libya
I agree with you that it is too early (jumping the gun) to change the governmental listings of Libyan cities from Libya to Libyan Interim Government, as per your reversions at Al Marj and Al Abyār. However, is there a place where this can be generally discussed and to which we may refer other editors? Responding here is fine. --Bejnar (talk) 15:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
- Hallo Bejar, sorry, maybe I was too fast, and I wrote a comment only on the first revert. Anyway, my point is clear, and coincides with yours (I think). The situation there is too fluid, and such edits doe not make (yet) any sense. moreover, they are also incorrect. The edit was in Field "Country". If there had been a field "Government" it would have been correct, but so it is plainly wrong. There is still one Libya, at least until a division will be officially ratified. The place could be the discussion page of Libya, I think, but i think that this only white noise, as a large part of the work done here. :-( Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 06:41, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Kastellorizo
Bingo! You are quite right, there is a lot of furore the past few days over a statement of the Turkish FM, Mehmet Davutoglu, who stated that Kastellorizo is "not in the Aegean", but in the Eastern Mediterranean, albeit he did qualify it as "a Greek island". The rub is that if Kastellorizo is part of the Aegean, then it will be considered along with the other Aegean islands in any Greco-Turkish settlement, which means it will be accorded a continental shelf and an extensive Exclusive Economic Zone (which AFAIK is also the current position per international law). The Turks favour a different interpretation in which Kastellorizo is an isolated exclave and a sui generis case, and has no continental shelf. Given the fact that the first position cuts off Turkey from the E. Med and its rumoured gas and oil deposits, as well as gives Greece a common maritime border with Cyprus and Egypt (see here), you can see why the Turks are trying to sneak in ambiguity in the island's status. In general, there's a lot going on the past few years, with Turkey exploiting it's own rising strength and Greece's weakness to push for concessions. We now have Turkish warships regularly cruising the Aegean a few dozen miles from Athens because (and I quote Davutoglu) "Turkey has a psychological need not to feel that the Aegean is only Greek". I like the Turks a lot, but comments like these make me mad, and you can imagine how others feel... So this is bound to spill over here too. Constantine ✍ 12:32, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
- You can read a few more details here. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 12:37, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, I quite agree that Kastellorizo isn't really in the Aegean. But that is what happens when politicians appropriate neutral geographical labels for their own purposes. Nice series of articles, thanks a lot! Although my knowledge of Italian is rather poor, I can read it well enough on account of my French and Spanish ;). The title is spot on, IMO. Constantine ✍ 13:07, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
- No, I didn't know that... Of course, there are a few on this side of the Aegean who make similar gestures, but when it comes from the actual leadership and not fringe MPs, it is worrisome. Let's hope that in the next visit to Eyüp he won't be girded with the sword of Osman... Constantine ✍ 14:25, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Re: Rabyanah
Hello there! The reason I put that tag is, the article has only 1 source, to fix the problem you should first fix Stub tag by adding more information on it and then try to Adding source to article to make them verfied and reliable and then I will remove the tag, and usually this process of tagging being done automatically (although I added this tag manually). Nima1024 (talk) 09:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, you did not understand, this tag means the (whole) article relies only on one source (means in number of sources), if that is not a source, the issue become worse and we should tag as Unreferenced. Nima1024 (talk) 09:23, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- The primary one is for not having a linked one source, if your source is book, put ISBN and if not try to add a source that has a link to elswhere. Nima1024 (talk) 09:30, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- From linking, I meant have close relationship with article subject, read here: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary.2C_secondary_and_tertiary_sources Nima1024 (talk) 09:33, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- I knew that before, happy you understand, so, first of all try to fix stub and then we go on about citations. Nima1024 (talk) 10:29, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- From linking, I meant have close relationship with article subject, read here: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary.2C_secondary_and_tertiary_sources Nima1024 (talk) 09:33, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- The primary one is for not having a linked one source, if your source is book, put ISBN and if not try to add a source that has a link to elswhere. Nima1024 (talk) 09:30, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Hagia Sophia
Hello Alessandro! I'm fine, thanks a lot, I hope the same is true on your side too :) On the issue at hand, I agree that the agenda is obvious, although carefully phrased to appear neutral-ish. I am not an expert in Islamic issues, but I'd say your point is correct: from the moment that the prayer was uttered in a building that was a focal point of one religion and was clearly intended to serve a similar role under Islam, it became a mosque. Especially since ritual trappings are rather unimportant in Islam (and Christianity, in its essence), a mosque being primarily a congregation hall. You might want to ask some other users, perhaps at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. Otherwise, you might consider taking it up with some administrators, since a user who is practically a single-purpose account is unlikely to let go easily. Constantine ✍ 09:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hah, well, I wouldn't know... Things are bad, no sign of improving yet. People are increasingly not paying their bills, as cash is scarce all-around. If you have money set aside, now is the time to come to Greece and buy cheap cars, flats and what not. People are fed up with our politicos, for instance, I've heard of cases where ministers have gotten booed out of restaurants, but again, this has been so for the past ten years or so, and there's no real alternative. And that's the worst thing, this sense of stagnation and hopelessness. As the saying here goes, we've already it rock bottom, and have started digging... Constantine ✍ 11:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- The crisis is still felt more than seen, and the situation hasn't yet become desperate. We're still a quite affluent nation, after all, and we still like to have a good time, eat well and spend money when abroad (Greeks and Spaniards are the best tourists, they buy everything up), perhaps all the more in times like these when the general atmosphere is rather depressive. Constantine ✍ 11:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hmmm, the issue is odd. If his only concern is that a building "is used" as a church/mosque etc vs "is" a church/mosque (which is how he presents it in the latest argument), then this is a (remarkably pedantic) content dispute. I do agree that there is probably another agenda, given the previous discussions, but the issue is whether you can prove it. So far, the user hasn't violated any WP policies, so you can't refer him to WP:ANI. Your only options are WP:RFC or WP:RFM. Constantine ✍ 07:02, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well, that's one of the joys of participating in an international, open-to-all encyclopedia! Cheers, and bon courage. Constantine ✍ 08:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good reply. Constantine ✍ 08:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've made a suggestion to end this dispute, if it is picked up, OK. Otherwise, admin intervention will probably be required. You can try ANI, although odds are that you'll be referred back to RFC for dispute resolution... Constantine ✍ 09:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good reply. Constantine ✍ 08:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well, that's one of the joys of participating in an international, open-to-all encyclopedia! Cheers, and bon courage. Constantine ✍ 08:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi there Alessandro57, I got your message. Unfortunately I do not have Runciman and Müller-Wiener with me. However I do agree that the Hagia Sophia was not just used as a mosque but was actually converted into a mosque (sounds a bit odd trying to make a difference between those two). I think you can bring in the argument that simply the construction of the minarets and the minbar speak for that fact. If that user should still give you problems, consider going here WP:Dispute resolution. I hope that helps. Gryffindor (talk) 16:22, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Book
Hello Alex! No, I did not know the book, but it does indeed seem to be that cheap (quite a surprise for me too, Greek books are usually rather pricey...) Most Greek bookstores have delivery services, but they mostly serve only addresses in Greece. There are however a few that send books abroad(e.g.). Constantine ✍ 08:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Book
Hello Alex! No, I did not know the book, but it does indeed seem to be that cheap (quite a surprise for me too, Greek books are usually rather pricey...) Most Greek bookstores have delivery services, but they mostly serve only addresses in Greece. There are however a few that send books abroad(e.g.). Constantine ✍ 08:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Re:Hagia Sophia
Hey Alex, forgive me for the late reply. I'm actually not too knowledgeable on what constitutes an official conversion of a non-mosque to a mosque or the usage of a non-mosque as a mosque. I've edited a number of mosque articles, and the only one I think is relevant to this situation is the Umayyad Mosque. Upon the Muslim conquest of Damascus and in the very early period of Arab rule, the mosque (which had been a Byzantine cathedral) was actually shared by the Christians and the Muslims with each group being allocated a section of the building for religious use. It was later converted into a full-fledged mosque by an Umayyad ruler, al-Walid. Perhaps there is a similarity between this and the Hagia Sophia. Hope that helps at least a little. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:08, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Swiss photo requests
Hi! Have you had a chance to get the photo requests in Switzerland? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 06:34, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Borgo
OK to discuss the matter, but writing "famous" "famous" everywhere is discouraged in Wikipedia. I wonder how can you accuse me of "vandalism" since I am one of the most active anit-vandals here, especially for what concerns Italian articles. I notice I had also corrected your error (which is typical anyway) of confusing tuff with tufa in English. Ciao and good work! --'''Attilios''' (talk) 09:39, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Honestly, I consider your version quite poor from the format point of view, but anyway it's OK. Ciao e buon viaggio. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 09:45, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I gave a look to the differences, and the POV in your article is rather inacceptable. Also, with "vandalism" you perhaps meant the limination of "the most beautiful" or so, or the description of St. Peter's appearance as a postcard. But I think for such speculations you should provide a source... otherwise it's difficult to sustain that a church is a postcard in an encyclopedia which does not accept WP:Original resarch. Don't you think? So I think the articles is better as it is for now. I fyou want, in the meantime I can ask the opinion of somebody expert of POV and other matters here, but (IMHO) I've few doubts he could keep your version. Ciao e buon viaggio di nuovo. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 09:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Mhmhm... I am also from Rome, but more humbly I have baptized in a horrendous 20th century church in Gaeta. As for your article, my deletions do not mean I don't agree with the content, but since we have rules here, we should respect them if we want to increase Wikipedia's respectability. Please don't get stuck with your version (see Wikipedia:Article ownership); the Wiki mechanism will allow your version to get easily restored with sources once you'll return. In the meantime I prefer the articles remains wikipedic as it is now. Let me. Ciao e fammi sapere. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 18:20, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ciao! No, sono nato a Roma ma credo mi abbiano battezzato a Gaeta da dove provengono i miei. Ora vivo a Torino però... Per quanto riguarda l'articolo, ti ripeto, sono d'accordissimo con te circa la cosa: il problema è che qui simili opinioni hanno bisogno di essere accompagnate da qualche citazione (tra l'altro ho anche io un libro di Insolera - a Gaeta, ma non quello che menzioni tu). Quando hai tempo, per favore inseriscile. Tornando a noi, io qui avrò scritto o corretto, o comunque reso decenti, svariate migliaia di articoli circa l'Italia (l'ultimo, Basilica of Sant'Elia), che altrimenti versebbero in stato pietoso, laddove qui esistono articoli enormi su star del wrestling o centri commerciali dell'Indiana. Florence faceva veramente schifo ad esempio (mi ero fidato, visto che gli anglosassoni sono fissati con Firenze, e invece no)! Se vuoi collaborare sei il benvenuto! A presto!! (PS: in Svizzera dove? Io sono stato parecchie volte a Berna e Thun dove vive un mio amico). --'''Attilios''' (talk) 12:50, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Mhmhm... I am also from Rome, but more humbly I have baptized in a horrendous 20th century church in Gaeta. As for your article, my deletions do not mean I don't agree with the content, but since we have rules here, we should respect them if we want to increase Wikipedia's respectability. Please don't get stuck with your version (see Wikipedia:Article ownership); the Wiki mechanism will allow your version to get easily restored with sources once you'll return. In the meantime I prefer the articles remains wikipedic as it is now. Let me. Ciao e fammi sapere. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 18:20, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I gave a look to the differences, and the POV in your article is rather inacceptable. Also, with "vandalism" you perhaps meant the limination of "the most beautiful" or so, or the description of St. Peter's appearance as a postcard. But I think for such speculations you should provide a source... otherwise it's difficult to sustain that a church is a postcard in an encyclopedia which does not accept WP:Original resarch. Don't you think? So I think the articles is better as it is for now. I fyou want, in the meantime I can ask the opinion of somebody expert of POV and other matters here, but (IMHO) I've few doubts he could keep your version. Ciao e buon viaggio di nuovo. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 09:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Respectivly
I know what this word means and how to use it, thank you very much, since I am a native English speaker. In the cobntext in which it occurs in the Mimar Sinarticle it is a nonsense. I also entirely fail to see why yourverted edits that improved syntx& &removed a repetition of dates. Incidentlly what is a Macmillan? some alterntive to the OED, I imagine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLongTone (talk • contribs) 18:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC) ...Unless the respectivly refer to Michaelangelo & Leonardo, in which case change thathepreceding 'he' to 'they'. I hake no claims to know a geat dea about this subject (it's obviously an areain which you have specilist knowlege): I merely admire Sinan'swor immensely am trying to improve th readability of this article. Which has clearly been largely written by people who are notnative speaers of English.TheLongTone (talk) 19:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- I like the expression 'washing in the Thames' very much. I'll be more careful in the future.TheLongTone (talk) 10:56, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
labeling others' edits as "vandalism"
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- Yup. Whether the revert was justified or not, labelling it as vandalism wasn't William M. Connolley (talk) 09:50, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Kastellórizo language links
Hi, can you explain to me why you want to keep the language links for italian and turkish? There is no italian or turkish wikipedia site behind these links...! 14:49, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Can we Talk ?
Dear Alex,
I know from personal experience of some of the difficulies involved in writing in another language, on a litterary level (as oppose to colloquial). The first time when I had an article of mine published in Italian, I tried writting in Italian , they had a look at my effort, said write it in English we will translate it. The translator did a very good job, they sent me the bozze- proofs, and there was this one sentense, which was pefect Italian, but had absolutely no relationship to my meaning. Well I wrote my own version in Italian of what it was that I meant, but it didn't get changed, so now I've got an article in print, and people reading it will forever be saying, what does the author mean here ?
Basically I was wondering If we could have a discussion in real time, this evening. I know that Zurich time is ahead of London time by an hour, so if you can at all, send me a note, giving both times to avoid comfusion. If you can't do today, give another date, I am self-employed and my shedules are fairly flexible. I was thinking we might try and get a discussion going on this page.
ciao ciao John 14:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
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DYK archives
Please explain this edit. Materialscientist (talk) 06:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Cheers. In the past, I was sometimes posting my comments at someone's user page rather than their talk page :-). Materialscientist (talk) 06:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Nominations are at T:TDYK. Materialscientist (talk) 06:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Church of St. George of Samatya
Hello! Your submission of Church of St. George of Samatya at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! — Toдor Boжinov — 13:28, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter which one. Just make sure you review any article that's currently unreviewed on DYK. Let me know when you've done that so I can pass your nomination :) Best, — Toдor Boжinov — 13:47, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review and for the interesting article you submitted at DYK! In the future, make sure you review another article before you post your nom and indicate that at the nomination page of your article. Best wishes, — Toдor Boжinov — 14:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Haha, there's no need for that, but you're welcome to do it, of course :) I often like to browse through the noms and review any that I find particularly interesting, even when I don't have a current nomination running. It can be fun, actually :) Best, — Toдor Boжinov — 14:49, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review and for the interesting article you submitted at DYK! In the future, make sure you review another article before you post your nom and indicate that at the nomination page of your article. Best wishes, — Toдor Boжinov — 14:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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Kemankeş Mustafa
Hi, can you please provide a reference for your addition to article Kemankeş Mustafa Pasha. Happy editting. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Your DYK nom for Odalar Mosque
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Edits of Turkic States
Hi Alessandro, thanks for explaining the reverting my edits on Turkic states.
I understand your example of Italy/Latin, US/Anglo. but your argument has shortcomings.
These Turkic states and peoples speak same basic language and share same culture, I have traveled across that region and I saw that.
I thought that would be natural referencing them together.
Since some of these pages already mentions this point, why not unify all references?
Ismet11 (talk) 15:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
The image you re-added to Istanbul#First settlements does not depict the city prior to 330. Even if you contend that "Galata" existed back then (debatable), one can very clearly see the first bridge over the Golden Horn, which was not built until Justinian I's reign in the 6th century. The caption of the image (derived from the original collection, presumably) even says "Constantinople in Byzantine times"; it would not have used the name "Constantinople" if the image was depicting the city prior to 330. Please do not restore the image. -- tariqabjotu 07:16, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
User:Tariqabjotu is constantly erasing the twin city section of Istanbul. Every city (even small towns) with twin cities has a section about twin cities.
User:Tariqabjotu is constantly erasing the twin city section of Istanbul. Every city (even small towns) with twin cities has a section about twin cities. This is not helpful for readers if any reference (even a wiki link) about twin cities is completely removed.
This is definately not about the manual of style, as it is his claim to completely erase it. If a section in an article becomes too long, a separate article is created, in this case for the twin cities of Istanbul, because there are many and a section in the Istanbul article would be too long.
And importantly to save space in the Istanbul article, the twin city section has been reduced as an internal wiki link (as a seperate article was created ) to direct readers. Readers will not automatically assume that there is an article about twin cities of Istanbul and may not realize it.
Could you warn this user. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.254.133.114 (talk) 18:53, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- Don't be a jerk. This comment is completely unnecessary, not to mention wrong. -- tariqabjotu 19:40, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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A bowl of strawberries for you!
but isnt vatican city inside the vatican? A part of rome? Ric5575 (talk) 21:32, 12 January 2012 (UTC) |
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sweet Ric5575 (talk) 23:48, 13 January 2012 (UTC) |
A cheeseburger for you!
Ps, i might add more things to the article, but feel free to extract or delete anything that seems wrong, ps the rioni part was just to extend the article :) Ric5575 (talk) 23:51, 13 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Italy vs. Italian Republic?
May I ask why you seem to be opposed to the phrase "modern day Italy" linking to the Italy page? Walrasiad (talk) 08:37, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Fermi
kept the Italian citizenship till his death. He was born in Italy, this should be enough to call him Italian...I revert your change now. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio.napoli (talk • contribs) 08:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi again! Yes, it's DYK25 medal for wikipedians, who created or expanded at least 25 DYK articles. By the speed you are creating new interesting articles you will soon reach the DYK50 medal level as well. :-) You should enter your name in the List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs. Cheers.CeeGee (talk) 14:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
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Borsig Palace
- I was thinking the same thing. That way every one who reviews it knows the full story.--Ishtar456 (talk) 16:58, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
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Greeks lived in all three cities. I don't see a point to replace Istanbul with Constantinople or Byzantium every time Greeks are mentioned in article about Istanbul. If somebody wants to emphasize that Greeks lived in Constantinople and Byzantium they can do it in those articles, not in article about Istanbul. There would be a point to add information that Greeks lived in the city which is today Istanbul since it was Byzantium or Constantinople, but this information is already presented in the article many times.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello Allessandro. Could you take a look at the talk page of this article? John Julius Norwich has a slightly different version of the story of the inspiration for the church's founding than is now in the article. I wonder if you have any sources which bear on the subject. Regards, Kablammo (talk) 12:47, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for your very quick response! You may wish to look at Basilica of San Vitale, where there have been a number of recent changes, including an assertion that the church in Constantinople was inspired by the one in Ravenna. I removed it[1] as my meagre sources seem to indicate that, if anything, it was the other way round. Thanks again. Kablammo (talk) 16:10, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Temple of Juno Moneta
Hi Alessandro, I would appreciate it if you explain to me the reason for your removal of Juno Moneta from the list of temples in the landmarks of Rome template. You said in your edit summary that it is from 2000 years (which I doubt since it is stated that it was consecrated from c. 344 BC) and that it cannot be included as one of today's landmarks. Is the temple of Jupiter Capitolinus one of today's landmarks or any other temple from the ones listed ? Alain08 (talk) 17:25, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Since you put it that way, I totally agree with you. If the template deals with Landmarks in Rome as of today (2012), then only visible and practically preserved landmarks should be listed. Thank you for clarifying it to me and Buon Compleanno to Roma :) Alain08 (talk) 14:50, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
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