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February 11, 2014
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[edit]- Sharavathi → Sharavati – (Discuss) – I request the name of this page be changed to "Sharavati". "th" in place of "t" is used only in a few southern districts of Karnataka and Tamilnadu state. Rest of the India uses the name Sharavati --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:34, 10 February 2014 (UTC) PuttuHegde (talk) 19:51, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Levan of Kartli → Prince Levan of Kartli – (Discuss) – He was a prince and regent so should be moved to "Prince". --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:25, 10 February 2014 (UTC) Jaqeli (talk) 17:07, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ministries of Sri Lanka → List of ministries of Sri Lanka – (Discuss) – The scope of this page is almost exclusively covered in Cabinet of Sri Lanka. The only other use of this page would be to turn it to a comprehensive list. FYI, we also have {{Ministries of Sri Lanka}}. --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC) Rehman 14:54, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hitachi Power Systems Canada → Mitusbishi Hitachi Power Systems Canada, Ltd. – (Discuss) – merger between Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Hitachi, Ltd. http://www.mhi.co.jp/en/news/story/pdf/14012802en.pdf 142.165.167.9 (talk) 21:55, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Castle of São Jorge → São Jorge Castle – (Discuss) – While the name in Portuguese directly translates to Castle of São Jorge, in English it's just not right. São Jorge Castle not only sounds right its correct by common practice of names in English (using the "X" of "X" is often awkward in English, spare names and officialities, i.e. Henry of Wales, City of San Jose). While I had originally opted for standardization amongst Portuguese castles, there is legitimate reason why this article should not follow this Castle of "X" plan, which I fully support for most other Portuguese castles, this is because the name of the castle is not toponymic. While it's completely reasoned to say the Castle of Beja, as it is the castle of the city of Beja, saying the Castle of São Jorge (saint George) makes no sense. I hope I have explained myself well and that we may change this. Apart from all this, in English its almost purely referred to as São Jorge Castle or Saint George's Castle, the former having higher popularity. Thank you. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 21:52, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Cambodian French → French in Cambodia – (Discuss) – This appears to be about the French language in Cambodia in general, not about a distinct dialect of French. — kwami (talk) 21:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Lao French → French in Laos – (Discuss) – This appears to be about the French language in Laos in general, not about a distinct dialect of French. — kwami (talk) 21:44, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Lancelot "Capability" Brown → Capability Brown – (Discuss) – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:STAGENAME. As our article says, and as the references support, this person was most commonly known as Capability Brown. STAGENAME says to avoid "adding a nickname, or a contracted version of the original first name(s) in quotes between first and last name." No, it's not an outright prohibition, but there's no need for this practice when there's a perfectly good name that hits all of the WP:CRITERIA without resorting to the nickname-in-quotes approach. BDD (talk) 21:27, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Couples → Couples (novel) – (Discuss) – too confusing 76.120.175.135 (talk) 21:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Roméo et Juliette, de la Haine à l'Amour → Romeo & Juliet (The Musical) – (Discuss) – The official name of the English version of the musical Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC) AlexTref871 (talk) 05:56, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Subdivisions of Hungary → Administrative divisions of Hungary – (Discuss) – Bold move was reverted with the one-sentence rationale, "controversial". Not enough info to explain what the other editor was thinking, but the proposed move target is consistent with Administrative divisions of Iran, Administrative divisions of Serbia, Administrative geography of the United Kingdom, etc. "Subdivisions" is a less optimal choice because it does not carry the connotation identifying the subject matter as political boundaries. Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:06, 10 February 2014 (UTC) VQuakr (talk) 03:11, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- Aftermath of the global surveillance disclosure → Reactions to global surveillance disclosures – (Discuss) – "The disclosures are ongoing" Anonymouscoward2421 (talk) 17:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Los Angeles Galaxy → LA Galaxy – (Discuss) – Although there was a failed requested move in September 2013 and I opposed the move at the time, I believe we have since gathered enough evidence to warrant such a move. Here are the facts:#In July 2007, after they signed David Beckham, they announced a new uniform and a new logo, where "Los Angeles" was replaced by "LA".#Since then, the team's web site was changed to lagalaxy.com.#On the team web site, the team is almost always referred to as "LA", not "Los Angeles".#On MLSSoccer.com, the team is almost always referred to as "LA" (notable exception: [1]).#Other sites still use "Los Angeles", but those numbers are fewer than those that use "LA" (see chart in previous move request).#The team's legal name is "Anschutz LA Soccer". You can verify this at the California Secretary of State web site (search for entity number C2499354). The company's registered address listed there is the same as that of Anschutz Entertainment Group.Unfortunately, because this took place so long ago, it is now impossible to find a press release or some other official statement wherein the name change is explicitly stated. However, here is some circumstantial evidence:#According to a tweet by the Galaxy marketing team, "LA Galaxy" is the official name of the club.#An interview with Alexi Lalas, who was general manager of the team in 2007 during the rebranding, states, "As the first Los Angeles based team to switch to LA officially..." (note that this is not a direct quote by Lalas, but a paraphrasing by the article author).#A blog entry from The Dallas Morning News states, "Side note: the club has been just LA Galaxy since their re-brand, not Los Angeles Galaxy."#This soccer writer's style guide: "Note: The official team name is the LA Galaxy, not the Los Angeles Galaxy. The full city name was dropped when the franchise rebranded in 2007." The style guide is written by David Agrell (see the site's WHOIS information), who is a former staff writer for MLSSoccer.com (see his LinkedIn profile and an example article: [2]). The style guide claims that "it serves as the official style guide for MLSsoccer.com."#The team's official brand assets refer to the team throughout as "LA Galaxy", although "Los Angeles Galaxy" is still noted as being acceptable. —howcheng {chat} 17:29, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- List of 2014 Indian Premier League personnel changes → IPL Auction 2014 – (Discuss) – "IPL Auction 2014" is already a redirecting page fro the the present page. But here I would like to request to change the name of the page to the proposed name as it is the more commonly used and referred term. Also a google search fro "IPL 2014 auction" does not even show the present page on 1st page of search.Althoght it does shows 2014 IPL page. This limits the reach of page. Also India being primary domain of this page proposed name would be easier for a bigger number of readers to understand than the present one. This move is also proposed for previos years IPL auction pages. Shabbygame (talk) 16:25, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Caste system among Indian Christians → Caste system among Christians – (Discuss) – Previously, for months, it was named as "Caste system among Christians", but Casta and caste system of africa were disputed by other editor on here. Right now, there is evident caste system, among christians in Sri Lanka,[3] it can be extended, it has been discussed. And there is caste discrimination in Pakistan.[4] So this page should cover multiple countries, once again. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:35, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Pac (wrestler) → Adrian Neville – (Discuss) – Has used the "Adrian Neville" ring name for more than a year. His greatest exposure, by far, has come from this name. None of the organizations he wrestled as "PAC" have the same worldwide outreach as WWE. GeicoHen (talk) 14:15, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ashley Fliehr → Charlotte (wrestler) – (Discuss) – She hasn't really wrestled as "Ashley Fliehr" or "Ashley Flair" from what I remember. All her notability has been as "Charlotte." GeicoHen (talk) 14:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sweet Nothing (song) → Sweet Nothing (Calvin Harris song) – (Discuss) – The discussion of the second RM above strongly suggests to me that the first would not succeed if proposed today, to the point that I think this should be tested. The possibility of a move review was raised with the closer of the first RM, but they have requested for what seem to me to be valid reasons that we go to a fresh RM instead, see above. Andrewa (talk) 13:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Child of the Universe (album) → Child of the Universe – (Discuss) – This is the only article on Wikipedia of it's name. Really hoping that an administrator can help by changing article name back to Child of the Universe. Child of the Universe redirects to the Child of the Universe (album) page. BennySOTOTW:) (talk) 13:14, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Live! with Kelly and Michael → Live with Kelly and Michael – (Discuss) – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Drive Time (talk) 11:02, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran → ? – (Discuss) – In accordance with other such articles and WP:COMMONNAME also this is a POV fork of adding "Islamic..." Lihaas (talk) 06:43, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
February 09, 2014
[edit]- The Satanist (Wheatley novel) → The Satanist (novel) – (Discuss) – The Satanist (novel) already redirects here. IIO owns "his" articles, so I don't blame why the redirect goes here. If The Satanist (novel) redirects here, the purpose to avoid ambiguity is a big FAIL. Either way the title is incorrect. At any case it should be The Satanist (Wheatley),as we don't use titles like the current, refer to Boxen (C. S. Lewis), The Ramayana (R. K. Narayan), Autobiography (Morrissey), or many of our books. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 22:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Massacre at Krusha e Madhe → Massacre at Velika Kruša – (Discuss) – As this article relates to a period prior to Kosovo's declaration of independence, I think many editors will agree that it is important for the sake of historical accuracy to use place names as they were prior to 2008. Massacre at Velika Kruša has 45,800 results on Google while Massacre at Krusha e Madhe 41,500 results I also must point out that reports by human rights groups were compiled by interviewing Albanian eyewitnesses and by assessing official reports from the time, which is probably why the place is referred to as both Velika Kruša and Krusha e Madhe in various contemporary reports. 23 editor (talk) 20:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- HR 7722 → HD 192310 – (Discuss) – Appears to be the most commonly-used name, as seen by a Google Scholar search and a SIMBAD search. StringTheory11 (t • c) 17:56, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Gaza → Gaza City – (Discuss) – Similar to ; Gaza City is a common reference to the capital of the Gaza Strip. Wickey-nl (talk) 17:13, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- 1983 CONCACAF U-17 Championship → 1983 CONCACAF U-16 Tournament – (Discuss) – The competitions that took place before 1991 were for players under 16 years. The requested move would also make the naming of the of series of CONCACAF youth tournaments for the same competition in different years consistent. TheBigJagielka (talk) 16:37, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Decoupling (disambiguation) → Decoupling – (Discuss) – I killed "decoupling" because is was nothing but inflated disambig page that collected totally unrelated topics. THere is nothing to write about the word "decoupling" itself beyond dicdef. - Altenmann >t 16:07, 9 February 2014 (UTC) - Altenmann >t 16:07, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Loving You Is Easy (song) → Loving You Is Easy – (Discuss) – They're all songs, and only this has an article Unreal7 (talk) 16:05, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Mark Read (singer) → Mark Read – (Discuss) – No one else called Mark Read (apart from the criminal, whose real name isn't used in the title of his article), and therefore really no need for a disambig page either. Unreal7 (talk) 15:27, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Gemini (2002 Tamil film) → Gemini (2002 film) – (Discuss) – no need for additional dab as other page moved to exact title -- Sriram speak up 14:29, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- AutoMaidan → Automaidan – (Discuss) – Main aricle was named Euromaidan, not EuroMaidan. Uk-wiki article named Автомайдан. Sources in mass media: [5] [6] [7] Official twitter: Automaidan. NickSt (talk) 14:23, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Raymond Wong (politician) → ? – (Discuss) – Wong Yuk-man is much more common used. Lmmnhn (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Israel's unilateral disengagement plan → Israel's unilateral disengagement from Gaza – (Discuss) – Executed plan is no longer a plan. Should the minor part of the four WB settlements be included, it may be Israel's unilateral disengagement, or more accurately Israel's 2005 unilateral disengagement. Wickey-nl (talk) 12:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- MDNA (album) → MDNA – (Discuss) – The Madonna's album is clearly the primary topic of MDNA. Google search engine shows 13,700,000 results for MDNA Madonna vs 136,000 results for MDNA mitochondria, it's over one-hundred times more. I don't understand why MDNA should be disambiguation, when the Mitochondrial DNA article itself doesn't use that title. Moreover, mDNA is not its only initialism, but only the alternative spelling of mtDNA. Per Google, there are 3,220,000 results for mtDNA mitochondria vs 136,000 results for mDNA mitochondria. You can see that mtDNA is more widely used for Mitochondrial DNA, rather than MDNA. Regards. Bluesatellite (talk) 12:06, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- F Album → F (KinKi Kids album) – (Discuss) – Both albums simply have "F" as title on the cover. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:25, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- More! More! More! → More! More! More! (Capsule album) – (Discuss) – Per WP:TITLE "Recognizability". The Japanese album gets no hits in English Google books. Although the ! ! ! aren't attached to the disco hit single+album More, More, More the current titling of the Japanese album is confusing and adding (Capsule album) to what is after all an article about a 2008 album by a Japanese electronic duo called Capsule is not in any way hurting those looking for the 2008 album by a Japanese electronic duo called Capsule rather than the disco standard. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Banana Republic → Banana Republic (fashion retailer) – (Discuss) – Articles "Banana Republic (with a capital R) and Banana republic with a lowercase R exist. Since this is a conflict in terms of a search, it's time to choose which gets the original and which gets the disambig. NintendoFan (Talk, Contribs) 07:25, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- 3 (Britney Spears song) → 3 (song) – (Discuss) – This is the only song with this name that has it's own page. The other song with this page was redirected because it fails to meet criteria. I would move the article myself, but it was requested to be moved to this so I figured it warranted a discussion. Shadow (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Rancho San Antonio County Park → Rancho San Antonio Open Space Preserve – (Discuss) – The county park is a small thing, basically just the bit east of the water tank. The article currently states that the park is 3800 acres, but this is wrong; it's really only 165 acres (see this link). Most of the land and most of the hiking is in the open-space preserve but not in the park. Many of the specific features mentioned in the article are actually in the open-space preserve but not in the park (including both the pictures, I think, though I'm not quite sure of that). Alternatively, the articles could be de-merged (they were apparently merged about four years ago), as the park and the OSP do seem to be distinct entities, but that strikes me as going overboard given that there's no obvious transition when you leave the park and go into the OSP Trovatore (talk) 03:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Chimborazo → Chimborazo (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – The primary topic of the word "Chimborazo" in the English language is the massive mountain in Ecuador. The other possible meanings are less significant to an encyclopedia, named something else, or both. Most of them are derived from the mountain's name, not that that matters much, but I'm just saying. The disambiguation page has unfortunately been viewed 1500 times in the past 90 days, which is a lot and suggests a lot of people come here looking for some article and yet do not find it. Hmm, wonder which article that is. The mountain's article has been read 46,000 times in the past 90 days (~10% of that over a specific 2-day period). I actually recommend looking at those pageview statistics just because there's an unusually prominent mountain there--just like Chimborazo! There's also a hospital called Chimborazo Hospital--apart from partial title match issues, it only got 600 views. The province in Ecuador is doubtlessly the most significant other topic, but it only received 1400 pageviews. (By the way; if there were a Nepalese province called Everest Province, would we make Everest a disambiguation page?) The Battle of Chimborazo is basically another partial title match and got just 300 views. There's a park in Virginia (wow, we are scraping the bottom of the barrel here!) with 700 views, and another partial title match for a district near that park with 100 views. All this to say, unsurprisingly, the main thing people are looking for when they search for Chimborazo is the big honking mountain in Ecuador whose peak is farther from the center of the earth than any other mountain on the planet (even Everest). The mountain called Chimborazo is an incredibly important topic and easily the most likely target for readers. Have a wonderful day. Red Slash 03:22, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Een beetje → 'n Beetje – (Discuss) – correct spelling per the single cover in the article and this image of the single. The Dutch Wikipedia article also gives "'n Beetje" but note that the Eurovision page on the song does use "Een Beetje". — AjaxSmack 02:10, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Castile-La Mancha → Castilla-La Mancha – (Discuss) – This is a semi-translation that has essentially no currency in any language. Don't mistake the subject of this article as the historical Castile; this is a department/state of Spain that sees relatively little English-language coverage and almost always is called "Castilla-La Mancha" in our language. I searched Google News alongside "Spain" to weed out as many Spanish-language results as possible; several seeped through anyway, but the general point is clear; there are a ton of English-language results for that title, and four for the title we currently have. One of those four is us! Castilla-La Mancha versus our current weird title, and I would hazard a guess that those three results on that page only called the department "Castile-La Mancha" because of us. The common name for the governmental province in English in the Spanish name, Castilla-La Mancha. Red Slash 00:00, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
February 08, 2014
[edit]- Let It Go (Disney song) → Let It Go (Idina Menzel song) – (Discuss) – Technically, it is her song as she is the performer. For example This Is Me (Demi Lovato song). Even if it were performed by the cast it would be Let It Go (Frozen song) like in Get It Right (Glee cast song). © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 23:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Steve Bullock (Montana politician) → Steve Bullock – (Discuss) – The governor of Montana is significantly more notable than a mayor, who is the only other person named Steve Bullock notable enough to be on the encyclopedia. (There are two other fellows who spell their names differently, but neither is particularly relevant). Google News results were almost entirely about the governor. Note that Steve Bullock has redirected here for almost a year. Red Slash 23:42, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ai (2014 film) → Ai (film) – (Discuss) –
- Cebu → Cebu (province) – (Discuss) – better 76.120.175.135 (talk) 23:20, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- HR 4523 → HD 102365 – (Discuss) – This star is more commonly referred to by this designation, as seen in SIMBAD and in Google Scholar results (while the HR designation does technically show up more in GS results, many of these are about a bill named "HR 4523", and not about the star). StringTheory11 (t • c) 20:23, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Collapsed lung → Collapsed lung (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – Of the three titles on this page, I would contend that the one people think of when they hear the phrase "collapsed lung" is Pneumothorax, the condition associated with a traumatic lung collapse due to an accident wherein the lung is punctured. The second, less prominent medical meaning, and the relatively little-known band, could even be addressed sufficiently in a redirect hatnote. However, with three topics, it is fair to keep the disambiguation page at a (disambiguation) title. Relisted. bd2412 T 17:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC) bd2412 T 17:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Last days → Last days (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – There are two separate reasons for this move. First, most of the works mentioned on this page are "The Last Days", with both a "The" preceding and all of the words capitalized. I believe this is a pretty clear WP:DIFFCAPS case. Second, all incoming links for the lowercase phrase (and even most for the capitalized phrase) refer to the religious idea of an end time. Since none of the works on the page is well known, this would indicate that end time is the primary topic of last days, possibly at any capitalization (although definitely in the lowercase). bd2412 T 17:51, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Goodness Gracious (song) → Goodness Gracious – (Discuss) – The song was originally at "Goodness Gracious", but was then changed to this. It doesn't need brackets, we could just use a hatnote to wiktionary. Unreal7 (talk) 17:07, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Idea Star Singer → Star Singer – (Discuss) – The show's name doesn't have Idea attached to it. It's simply Star Singer, and Idea is simply the sponsor. The new season is titled Sunfeast Delishus Star Singer. I guess it is safe to rename the page to Star Singer. ごだい (会話) 15:52, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- First Kiss → First Kiss (Aya Matsuura album) – (Discuss) – per WP:TITLE, this is neither recognizable nor WP:Primary Topic. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Tropical nations at the Winter Olympics → Tropical nations at the Winter Olympics and Paralympics – (Discuss) – as this already includes material on the paralympics, I propose that the article's title change to match the article's scope, and expand the article to more fully encompass the paralympics. -- 70.24.244.161 (talk) 15:01, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Turkish invasion of Cyprus → 1974 Cyprus war – (Discuss) – Rationale for the proposed page name change:
1. Fair Approach, Neutrality, Objectivity:
This way of entitling the article ("1974 Cyprus war") avoids any qualifying of the war and hence results almost no conflict. Definitely, this way of titleing the article is far more fair approach towards the "invasion/interference" POVs. When one use "invasion" (or equally the "interference") to depict the war in 1974 and hence thereby the entitling in Wikipedia, there are millions of Wikipedians on both sides of the conflict who oppose this way of qualifying the war (the qualifying is rejected by one of the sides in each cases). On the other hand, the sides accepts the existing of the "war".
2. Almost closed to objections:
Nobody can deny anything about each of the words in "1974 Cyprus war": It happened in 1974 and the operation finished in 1974; It was in Cyprus island; It was war. Even the Turkish Cypriots entitling it as "peace operation" accept that it was war. "peace operation" is rather to qualify the nature of the war, according to them, I think.
3. Google Search:
"1974 Cyprus War" (without quotes): 8,890,000 results
https://www.google.com.tr/?gws_rd=cr&ei=3TH2UuO_BKOX4wT08YHAAw#q=1974+Cyprus+War and
"Cyprus War" (with quotes): 10,400 results
https://www.google.com.tr/?gws_rd=cr&ei=OFT3UuHDEeWB4ATmk4C4AQ#q=%22Cyprus+war%22
"1974 Cyprus War" (with quotes): 78,500 results
https://www.google.com.tr/?gws_rd=cr&ei=3TH2UuO_BKOX4wT08YHAAw#q=%221974+Cyprus+War%22
Academia: Google Scholar Searchs:
"1974 Cyprus War" (without quotes): 39,700 results
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=1974+Cyprus+war&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5
"1974 Cyprus War" (with quotes): 19 results.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%221974+Cyprus+war%22&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5
NGram shows very very sharp decline after 1979 decision of Greece's court, and the usage "Turkish invasion of Cyprus" is deflating continuosly.: NGram.4. Robust proofs of the parties in discussion:
I am giving the following not for supporting the "intervention" side, but to support each side ("invasion"ers, "intervention"ers) has robust proofs to some extent. I will not give the robust proofs of "invasion"ers since they are known to the many participants of the discussion as well. I added the followings especially for those who do not know the followings.
The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE): (29.07.1974, Res. 573) "Turkish military intervention was the exercise of a right emanating from an international Treaty and the fulfilment of a legal and moral obligation."
Greece's Athens Court of Appeals (21.03.1979): "The Turkish military intervention in Cyprus, which was carried out in accordance with the Zurich and London Accords, was legal".
5. The alternatives may not be that much satisfactory:
Some people may suggest other alternatives ("Cyprus war in 1974" or "Cyprus war of 1974"), but "1974 Cyprus war" (as in "2013-14 Euroleague") suits better in Wikipedia practice.
6. Counter arguements of the defenders of "Turkish invasion of Cyprus":
I know there are people who opposes the above proposal. It would be fair and ethical to bring here based on what they objected the above proposal (I added my replies as well):Δρ.Κ.: It is the WP:COMMONNAME of the invasion. That's what's called by the majority of the reliable sources. : Alexyflemming: Non-neutral but common names https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME#Non-neutral_but_common_names
Notable circumstances under which Wikipedia often avoids a common name for lacking neutrality include the following:
1. Trendy slogans and monikers that seem unlikely to be remembered or connected with a particular issue years later
2. Colloquialisms where far more encyclopedic alternatives are obvious
T*U: Somehow you forgot to mention the main clause: In such cases, the prevalence of the name ... generally overrides concern that Wikipedia might appear as endorsing one side of an issue. The prevalence of the name "Turkish invasion of Cyprus" for what happened in 1974 is so obvious in English language literature that it is the only possible choice for the title. : Alexyflemming: As you state: "...generally overries...", not "...always overrides..."!. Also, English language literature well metions the events of that period as "the war in 1974" as well. Hence, "Turkish invasion of Cyprus" is not the only possible choice for the title. Alexyflemming (talk) 15:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Catch! → ? – (Discuss) – This really could be an article about anything couldn't it... In ictu oculi (talk) 14:24, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sundarbans Reserve Forest → Sundarbans – (Discuss) – This article used be titled Sundarbans, which is the world's largest mangrove forest. It was mistakenly moved to Sundarbans Reserve Forest. No such thing exists. Sundarbans have 4 reserve forests within it. 3 in Bangladesh and 1 in West Bengal. The reason for the move was avoiding edit warring, where there had never been an edit war at this article. Aditya(talk • contribs) 14:22, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Žiče, Slovenske Konjice → Žiče – (Discuss) – By far the best known place named Žiče. Eleassar my talk 13:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- George Hutchinson (footballer born 1929) → George Hutchinson (footballer) – (Discuss) – There is only one footballer named George Hutchinson with a WP article so further disambig with DOB is pointless. This change was reverted with a claim that it is needed in order to disambiguate from a similarly named Australian rules footballer. A DOB doesn't serve any disambiguation purpose for that reason. Bladeboy1889 (talk) 08:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Outside Satan → Hors Satan – (Discuss) – As far as I can tell, this film has never been released under the name "Outside Satan", and was released under its French title in all English-speaking territories, theatrically and on DVD. "Outside Satan" is an informal translation used in some publications and databases, often appearing in parentheses after the French title. The awkward translation also garbles the French multiple meanings of "outside", "except" and "get out/be gone", which is presumably why the French title was retained internationally. Wetdogmeat (talk) 01:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Communes of Algeria → Municipalities of Algeria – (Discuss) – Since this is the English Wikipedia, use the English translation for baladiyah and not the French. The article was named with the English name until one user changed it, with specific reference to French "move to commune as this is officially recognised in French". Relisted. BDD (talk) 00:44, 8 February 2014 (UTC) Androoox (talk) 22:19, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Zach Fucale → Zachary Fucale – (Discuss) – A quick Google search shows the most commonly used name for this player is Zachary Fucale. It is also the name used on the QMJHL website [8] and the Montreal Canadiens website [9]. It is also his real name. Relisted. BDD (talk) 00:03, 8 February 2014 (UTC) Permafrost46 (talk) 18:14, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
February 07, 2014
[edit]- Pere Marquette → Pere Marquette (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – Jacques Marquette is the primary topic for this title. All of the other entries on this dab are named for him and are much less likely to be the subject of a search for "Pere Marquette". Therefore this dab should be moved over the top of Pere Marquette (disambiguation) (which does not have any significant history) and Pere Marquette should be changed to redirect to Jacques Marquette. Relisted. BDD (talk) 23:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC) Nick Number (talk) 22:47, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- States-General of the Netherlands → States General of the Netherlands – (Discuss) – The official site speaks of the States General (without a dash), the very first sentence is even "The official name of the Dutch Parliament is the States General (Staten-Generaal).", so I propose moving this article. (Luxorr (talk) 21:58, 7 February 2014 (UTC))
- John Walsh → John Walsh (television host) – (Discuss) – Out of an abundance of caution, I decided to bring this move request here. John Walsh (Montana politician) has just been named to the US Senate to replace the outgoing Max Baucus, new US Ambassador to China. Given the prominence this office accords the new Sen. John Walsh, I think it is inappropriate to maintain a direct link from "John Walsh" to the television host. Given the number of articles concerning various John Walshes in Wikipedia, I feel it is wisest to direct the name to the disambiguation page. It is also possible to rename the article of the television host to John Edward Walsh (his full name); but, the television host is not commonly referred to in this way. Also, the article John Edward Walsh currently exists, and refers to a 19th-century Irish politician. Xoloz (talk) 18:30, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
- Wind gap → Wind gap (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – See above. Wind gap is the primary meaning. All the others are spelt "windgap" except Wind Gap, Pennsylvania which is a small village and has a disambiguator already. Bermicourt (talk) 17:24, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
- Morikami Park → George Morikami – (Discuss) – This article is primarily about the person, and only tangentally mentions the park. This is a notable Florida settler who deserves his own article. Furthermore there already is another article dealing with the museum, and perhaps that content and some of this content can be merged to address the park. Greg Bard (talk) 16:56, 7 February 2014 (UTC) Greg Bard (talk) 16:56, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
- People of Sheffield → Demography of Sheffield – (Discuss) – To be in line with the titling of other UK city articles, such as Demography of Birmingham. 'People of...' titles usually apply to a region and not a settlement. Half past formerly SUFCboy 14:34, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hindmarsh Stadium → Coopers Stadium – (Discuss) – Venue has naming right sponsorship, no longer called Hindmarsh Stadium David.goodchild (talk) 05:56, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
- Heliopolis Palace → Ittihadiya Palace – (Discuss) – This was its name before the 1960s when it was a hotel and was called "Heliopolis Palace Hotel". It has been renamed to "Ittihadiya Palace" (Arabic:قصر الاتحادية → Kasr al Ittihadiya) and now it is Egypt's main presidential palace. Relisted. BDD (talk) 00:00, 7 February 2014 (UTC) Fitzcarmalan (talk) 11:56, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
- Rotation group → Rotation group (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – From the recent discussions it seems clear many of the topics here are related, and that 'rotation group' is more than just a title but is the (concrete) thing that relates them. I thought of creating an article but one already exists, orthogonal group. So rotation group should redirect there, this page should be at rotation group (disambiguation) with rotation group as its primary topic. Relisted. BDD (talk) 00:00, 7 February 2014 (UTC) JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 20:14, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
February 06, 2014
[edit]- Flor de la Mar → Frol de la Mar – (Discuss) – Although I supported the original move from Frol de la Mar to Flor de la Mar, I am requesting a reversal of the move now. The spelling Frol de la Mar, although apparently a misspelling, is the common name of this ship. It is spelled this way in practically all Portuguese chronicles of the time (e.g. ,e.g. Albuquerque, Barros, Correia, Couto) and my research since indicates that most secondary sources spell it this way as well. Moreover, all children's books I have come across on the Portuguese discoveries insist on spelling it Frol, indicating to me this is not merely scholarly preciseness, but the affectionate and widely-accepted spelling for this famous ship. Changing it from Frol to Flor was a mistake, akin to "correcting" the spelling of "Beatles" to "Beetles". The current article title is not even a full "correction" but a bastardization of the correct and misspelled terms (the original Portuguese would have been Flor do Mar, not Flor de la Mar, "de la" is as much a spelling "mistake" as "Frol"). The original move did not have much of any discussion and really had no basis beyond a intuitive jarring discomfort with "Frol", and really just ignored the sources. So I propose a return to the common Frol de la Mar, the spelling by which this ship is commonly known and referred to. Relisted. BDD (talk) 23:58, 6 February 2014 (UTC) Walrasiad (talk) 13:32, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Batavian revolution → Batavian Revolution – (Discuss) – All "Revolution" articles are capitalized, this should be done for the sake of consistency. Charles Essie (talk) 20:46, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Marek Zidlicky → Marek Zidlicky – (Discuss) – Two reasons: 1) the vast majority of Czech ice hockey players are at their diacriticized name variants, 2) it appears on the talkpage that the close of the previous move was not met with much enthusiasm. The discussion itself is why I post this RM instead of just boldly moving the page. I don't see why this particular player should be an exception. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Tom Cullen (actor) → Tom Cullen – (Discuss) – Tom Cullen is currently a disambiguation page linking to the actor's article and identifying two characters named Tom Cullen (neither with their own article). I think any character coverage should exist at the fictional works' articles. Maybe we can mention these characters at Thomas Cullen (a disambiguation page) instead? Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Big Beat Records (Atlantic Records subsidiary) → Big Beat Records (American record label) – (Discuss) – How can a reader know the difference between both record labels. The current titles are an assumption readers already know there are two record labels sharing the name, and that they are subsidiaries from other companies. WP:MOS RL recommends better solutions than the current titles, like Big Beat Records (US) and Big Beat Records (UK). © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 17:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Particularly dangerous situation → Particularly Dangerous Situation – (Discuss) – Particularly Dangerous Situation has always been capitalized by the National Weather Service, and has, it seems, been used by the NWS alone, meaning that there are no situations where the issue of capitalization varies. Here is one example from a page I recently visited: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/2013/ww0262.html. This is the most common, as well as the official usage of the term, which is another reason for which this move should be executed, as stated in the policy WP:TITLE and in the essay WP:OFFICIAL. There are, I believe, other examples included in the references at the page Particularly dangerous situation. I couldn't move the page because there is a redirect at Particularly Dangerous Situation. This redirect had a second edit by a bot, and so I cannot execute this move myself. I do not think that this issue should be very controversial. Dustin talk 15:44, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Gay → Gay (terminology) – (Discuss) –
My understanding is that the primary use of "Gay" to refer to Homosexuality, not to refer to the word "Gay" itself. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 06:57, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- NET Act → No Electronic Theft Act – (Discuss) – I wonder if the Manual of Style dictates the primary article name by the acronym since usually the acronym is the redirect and the full name is the article. (NBA will redirect to a disamib or National Basketball Association). If this is to be the primary, then the acronym if the official name. NintendoFan (Talk, Contributions) 02:57, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau → P. A. Parenteau – (Discuss) – As regarded by NHL (and everyone else), his WP:COMMONNAME is PA Parenteau. Gloss • talk 02:23, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ksiolajidebt → KSIOlajidebt – (Discuss) – or KsiOlajidebt. While I was copy-editing it, I noted it says the name is a mixture from the name of his Halo clan (K.S.I.) and his name (Olajidebt). If his YouTube account is pronounced /Key Es Ai Olajidebt/ this is not a stylization as capital letters are not styles, but acronyms; and WP:MOSTM is neutral to CamelCase cases. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 01:55, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sook Ching massacre → Sook Ching – (Discuss) – The "massacre" is redundant, like "Holocaust Massacre". For evidence of usage, see below. Srnec (talk) 00:48, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- World Heritage Sites in Germany → List of World Heritage Sites in Germany – (Discuss) – If this article is a list, is categorized as a list and rated as a list, shouldn't it be named "List of List of World Heritage Sites in Germany", as all other lists at Category:Lists of World Heritage Sites?- ELEKHHT 00:32, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Jerusalem Chords Bridge → Bridge of Strings – (Discuss) – The bridge is much more commonly known as the "Bridge of Strings" rather than the "Chords Bridge",[10] [11] and its Hebrew name (Gesher HaMeitarim) translates as "Bridge of Strings". The Jerusalem Light Rail's website and Jerusalem Municipality's website also refer to it as "Bridge of Strings"[12][13]. Additionally, "Jersualem" is not officially part of the bridge's name, and is just where the bridge is located. –Dream out loud (talk) 00:00, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
February 05, 2014
[edit]- Eric Williams → Eric Williams (prime minister) – (Discuss) – There are so many an Eric Williams. The prime minister of Trinidad and Tobago looks popular. However, the basketball player may also be popular. Both popular more than the writer. The stats for prime minister isn't exactly accurate, as far as I can see. Surely they must be also looking for the prime suspect of the 2013 Kaufman County murders (not popular right now), Erik Williams (American football) or the comic book supervillian Grim Reaper (real name Eric Williams). As for significance, being a prime minister of the island country... may be more prestigious and historical than being a writer, actor, or basketball player... or I'm wrong. George Ho (talk) 23:37, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hungarian–Romanian war of 1919 → Hungarian–Romanian War – (Discuss) – I can't think of any other war in history that uses the name "Hungarian–Romanian War", plus, that title already redirects here. Charles Essie (talk) 21:23, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Moorestown Township, New Jersey → Moorestown, New Jersey – (Discuss) – Provide more common name, without the word "Township". This word also provides a little redundancy in the title, since Moorestown already has the word "town" in it. Also, per WP:Common name Tinton5 (talk) 21:10, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Just Another Night (Icona Pop song) → Just Another Night – (Discuss) – No need for "Icona Pop song" 82.24.119.9 (talk) 20:39, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Istok → Istog – (Discuss) – Per Wikipedia:COMMONNAME and Istog is also the name officially used by the Town's Local Government in the English Language.*Google Search:**Istog = 2,120,000**Istok = 1,830,000*Google Book Search:**Istog = 236,000**Istok = 96,000*Google Scholar (Journal) Search:**Istog = 29,200**Istok = 14,300
NB Please note that Istok is also the name of several small towns in Poland, as well as the name of several medium sized businesses.
*Support as nominator. IJA (talk) 20:23, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Shout!!! → Shout!!! (Idoling song) – (Discuss) – per support in previous RM. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:21, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Provably secure cryptographic hash function → Security of cryptographic hash functions – (Discuss) – Possibly move this article to Security of cryptographic hash functions and then incorporate the content of Cryptographic hash function#Properties and Provably secure cryptographic hash function#Types of Security of Hash Functions along with a section about Provably secure cryptographic hash functions. Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:07, 5 February 2014 (UTC) RavelTwig (talk) 02:11, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Adyghe people → Circassians – (Discuss) – per WP:COMMONNAME Jaqeli (talk) 17:28, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Czechoslovakian wolfdog → Czechoslovakian Wolfdog – (Discuss) – To coincide with about 10 text mentions with a capital W and not one with a small w. Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC) SergeWoodzing (talk) 07:47, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- Ottoman Porte → Sublime Porte – (Discuss) – The more common name. Srnec (talk) 16:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Dwyriw → Dwyrhiw – (Discuss) – The existing name does not appear on map searches e.g. streetmaps but Dwyrhiw does. Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:13, 5 February 2014 (UTC) Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- Tampa Bay Derby Darlins → Tampa Roller Derby – (Discuss) – in 2012 Tampa Bay Derby Derlins changed the name of their organization to Tampa Roller Derby. The Wikipedia article should reflect this information. Tampa Roller Derby Blondie Blitz (talk) 16:04, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hater (band) → Hater – (Discuss) – Only subject with this name. Unreal7 (talk) 15:34, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Lived a Lie (You Me at Six song) → Lived a Lie – (Discuss) – Only thing called "Lived a Lie". Billboard Man (talk) 15:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- John Smith (United States Senator from Ohio) → John Smith (Ohio politician, born 1735) – (Discuss) – This is a more typical way of disambiguating a title, per WP:NCP. The more concise John Smith (Ohio politician) is ambiguous with John Quincy Smith. Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:44, 5 February 2014 (UTC) BDD (talk) 00:42, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- Dispersion of the apostles → Dispersion of the Apostles – (Discuss) – The article is about a liturgical feast (a proper noun), not about an event (common noun). The present title is misleading. Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:01, 5 February 2014 (UTC) Esoglou (talk) 14:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- O. C. Ukeje → OC Ukeje – (Discuss) –
- Boris, Hereditary Prince of Montenegro → Boris Petrovitch Njegosh – (Discuss) – It's what he calls himself: see own website, linkedin, behance, video on youtube, web article, etc Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:37, 5 February 2014 (UTC) DrKiernan (talk) 22:52, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Octagonal → Octagonal (horse) – (Discuss) – this should redirect to octagon as the primary usage of "octagonal" is as an adjective for the polygon, and this WP:ASTONISHes as the landing point. Also will prevent linkage failures for people expecting wikilinks of adjectives to link to the primary topic noun. -- 70.50.148.248 (talk) 07:44, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sydney Derby (A-League) → Sydney Derby – (Discuss) – Other articles which once previously occupied the desired move location no longer exist, and those that did exist had been renamed to specific 'event' titles. As such there is no need for any disambiguation page at the target location and this topic is not only the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Sydney Derby" it is now the only topic on Wiki. Macktheknifeau (talk) 06:11, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Li Na (tennis) → Li Na – (Discuss) – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to usage, if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." Compare [14] with [15], [16], [17], [18], [19]. The tennis player had 64 times more traffic than all the other 5 Li Na's combined — even if stats were skewed last month due to her AO win, I don't think it's farfetched to declare she IS the primary topic. (One is free to check stats for other months.) Timmyshin (talk) 00:17, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
February 04, 2014
[edit]- Gustav Adolph Day → Gustavus Adolphus Day – (Discuss) – The king which this day is named for is usually called Gustavus Adolphus in English and he is not called Gustav Adolph even in Swedish (in Swedish, he is called Gustaf II Adolf or Gustav II Adolf). Ove Raul (talk) 22:49, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- Chow-chow → Chow-chow (food) – (Discuss) – The name of this dish isn't consistently written with a hyphen, so I suspect most readers looking up this title or its redirect Chowchow are actually looking for the well-known dog breed Chow Chow. I'd like to see this page moved to a clearer title, with the hyphenated and unspaced variants redirecting there as a primary topic. --BDD (talk) 21:43, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- Mushihime-sama Futari → Mushihimesama Futari – (Discuss) – On the CAVE talk page, it has been decided to remove the hyphens from all titles in order to avoid confusion and remain consistent with the official spelling of the games. Jotamide (talk) 20:12, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- Mushihime-sama → Mushihimesama – (Discuss) – On the CAVE talk page, it has been decided to remove the hyphens from all titles in order to avoid confusion and remain consistent with the official spelling of the games. Jotamide (talk) 20:11, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta! → Mamorukun Curse! – (Discuss) – The game has been localized and it has received an English name. Link for reference. Jotamide (talk) 20:08, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- William Waddell (footballer) → Willie Waddell – (Discuss) – I think he was more commonly known as Willie. As "Willie Waddell" redirects here anyway, I think it makes more sense to use the title without parentheses. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- Korea national basketball team → South Korea national basketball team – (Discuss) – Per WP:COMMONNAME, Regardless of the teams official name, The country is called South Korea, and not just Korea. Also it should be South Korea to match the article on the country of South Korea, I see also most of other Korean national teams pages (like Football, Volleyball , Handball and even Baseball) use South Korea. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:29, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- District of Uroševac → District of Ferizaj – (Discuss) – The city has recently been renamed from Uroševac to Ferizaj. When a similar move was decided for Đakovica to Gjakova, the closing admin also moved the District of Đakovica page for consistency. I suggest a similar move here. T*U (talk) 16:05, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- John Early → John Early (bishop) – (Discuss) – There are now four articles named John Early, none substantially more notable than the next, so a disambiguation page is needed. Teemu08 (talk) 15:37, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- C. C. Little → Clarence Cook Little – (Discuss) – article should probably have full name as title. --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:32, 4 February 2014 (UTC) SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:21, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- In-depth sensory analysis → ? – (Discuss) – Unless citations can be found to show that sensory analysis is restricted solely to the sense of smell, this article is imperfectly titled. We need to determine whether this needs moving to a new title, and, if so, what that title should be. It may well be that a new title is needed in any case. Fiddle Faddle 15:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- Surface 2 → Microsoft Surface 2 – (Discuss) – As per the Microsoft Surface 2 and the Microsoft Surface Pro 2 tablets, their predecessors, the Microsoft Surface and the Microsoft Surface Pro, respectively, both have the brand name Microsoft which is the manufacturer. Compared to most articles, the latter two follow the style used by the articles for other gadgets, such as Samsung Galaxy S4 which has Samsung, the name of the manufacturer. The reason for the move is to follow the norm of other articles. Importance of the brand name is another reason. Japanese Rail Fan (talk) 12:20, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- Joseph Schereschewsky → Samuel Isaac Joseph Schereschewsky – (Discuss) – There has been an amicable Talk Page discussion and disagreement, though a move before consensus.To summarize:One interpretation is that the title of the article should be Samuel Isaac Joseph Schereschewsky, from which it was moved, because that is the Common Name: found almost without exception in web searches (Joseph is not found in those searches); in all but one of many Wikipedia articles; in his own published books; WorldCat authority page; standard reference works and encyclopedias both online and print; and in recent scholarship, including a recent scholarly biography.The searches:* Google Search + Joseph Schereschewsky on the first three pages gets only one hits for Joseph S., the rest are SIJS.* WorldCat Search = Joseph Schereschewsky returns books by or about SIJS. The items by "Joseph" are another person, his son.* WorldCat Authority Page = Schereschewsky, S. I. J. (Samuel Isaac Joseph) 1831-1906, doesn't give Joseph. The books by or about him use SIJS or initials, not "Joseph S."* Google Search "Joseph Schereschewsky -samuel", that is, to see how many hits there are for "Joseph S." without "Samuel," does indeed return a lot of hits, but many are to some other form of the name including "Joseph," not to "Joseph S."* Calendar of saints (Episcopal Church)#Calendar (October) gives SIJS.The other interpretation is that the article should not be moved back, but should remain Joseph: in an Anglican church prayer, for which there is one citation (online), quoted in two others, that he is called Joseph, which indicates that this is his common name and that the above argument is "pedantic." To quote::"Although they also include his full name, both THIS WEBPAGE and THIS ONE, which I am assuming are based on official Episcopal Church sources, refer to him simply in the prayers as Joseph Schereschewsky. This is a very strong indication that this is how he was commonly known by those who did actually know him."And::"It is not surprising that older and more formal sources include his full name. That was once common practice in older church sources with bishops. Such sources can be misleading as they can give the false impression that this was how bishops were normally known." ch (talk) 03:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Couples" → "Couples" (album) – (Discuss) – Primary is the John Updike novel Couples. the extra " not used in Google Books sources Relisted. BDD (talk) 22:24, 3 February 2014 (UTC) In ictu oculi (talk) 11:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sagara, Karnataka → Sagar, Karnataka – (Discuss) – The official spelling of this town as per India Government is "Sagar". Please visit the official government website http://www.indiapost.gov.in/pin/ and enter the pin code of this town 577401 to know the real spelling. PuttuHegde (talk) 20:25, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- List of APB Opinions → List of Accounting Principles Board Opinions – (Discuss) – WP:ARTICLETITLE Relisted. BDD (talk) 20:22, 3 February 2014 (UTC) 174.3.125.23 (talk) 10:44, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Wotan → Wotan (disambiguation) – (Discuss) –
- Mozart's Sister (film) → Mozart's Sister – (Discuss) – No need for disambiguation. An appropriate hatnote could be included to Maria Anna Mozart. BOVINEBOY2008 15:13, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Armistice with Germany → World War I Armistice – (Discuss) – Per "Title isn't global" above, the current title (Armistice with Germany) clearly violates WP:POVNAMING and WP:WORLDVIEW as it frames the article in the perspective of the Allied forces. An armistice must be between multiple parties, so it can only be "with" one party from the perspective of another party. This would no doubt deter readers from Germany, Austria, Hungary, etc., and might also be confused with any other armistice involving Germany as a party (for example, the Second Armistice at Compiègne). Other alternative titles would include First Armistice at Compiègne and 1918 Armistice, either of which would be neutral (and which ought to serve as redirects), but I suggest World War I Armistice (or World War I armistice) would be the most easily recognisable title for this article. Relisted Andrewa (talk) 10:49, 3 February 2014 (UTC) sroc 💬 17:54, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- Film projector → Film projector (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – The motion picture version is the primary topic of film, so it makes sense that the primary topic of Film projector would be Movie projector. Frankly, I have never heard of a slide projector being called a "film projector" at all. I would either move this disambiguation page and redirect "Film projector" to "Movie projector", or turn this page into a redirect without preserving the disambiguation page, and have a hatnote at "Movie projector" pointing to Slide projector. bd2412 T 03:01, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Richard Carlson → Richard Carlson (actor) – (Discuss) – The actor is not more popular or significant than the author/psychotherapist. Looking at credentials, the actor didn't star in a leading television role. Rather he made significant guest television appearances and B-movie appearances. The author/psychotherapist wrote so many self-help books that have been bestsellers. Probably the author is more popular than the actor; the stats of the actor are not accurate. George Ho (talk) 02:45, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Fascist manifesto → Manifesto of the Italian Fasci of Combat – (Discuss) – The full name should be used as the title of this article for several reasons:1. A "fascio" was a league, and as there were more than one such organization at the time this document was published, it is important that the full name identify this particular organization. The Italian word "fascismo" later came to represent an ideology.2. This document represents a primitive form of fascism that changed significantly into Italian fascism under the leadership of Mussolini, so it should be clear that this is not actually definitive of what "fascism" has come to mean.3. The document that did formally establish the political and ideological foundations of Italian fascism is "The Manifesto of the Fascist Intellectuals." The Doctrine of Fascism also defines the ideology much more accurately than does this so-called Fascist Manifesto.Possible controversy: It is true that this document seems to be commonly referred to as the “Fascist Manifesto.” However, it doesn't ever occur in Italian, and when this simplified term is used in English, it lends credence to the simplistic impression that fascism is fundamentally a leftist ideology (see above discussion). Julierbutler (talk) 23:41, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
- Il bidone → Il Bidone – (Discuss) – This is the way the title seems to appear most in the United States, Great Britain, etc. with capital B. It's also the way most similar Wikipedia articles and the internet in general capitalizes foreign films that are more distributed in original foreign language. Hihono (talk) 22:35, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
- Book of Tang → Old Book of Tang – (Discuss) – WP:PRECISION states that "titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article". The current title can either refer to this book, or New Book of Tang (Both books shared the same title; "old" and "new" are just disambiguation adjectives.) Timmyshin (talk) 22:34, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
- What's Going On (Marvin Gaye album) → What's Going On – (Discuss) – I understand the thinking behind the recent move request; however, as the overwhelming amount of readers are looking for either the song or the album, by moving the primary name to a disamb page, the bulk of readers are arriving on the wrong page and are needing to click through to their desired destination after being distracted by the disamb page. It would be preferable to direct readers to either the album or the song, and then provide a hat note: "This article is about the album/song, for the song/album, click here, for other possible meanings, click here". As the album gets 30% to 40% more readers per month, that would indicate it's the more likely contender for being the primary topic, though using the song as the primary topic would also be acceptable. SilkTork ✔Tea time 08:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
- Lahmajoon → Lahmajun – (Discuss) – Reverse redirect, as present exaggerated phoneticism Lahmajoon is deprecated and not represented in article. --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 02:55, 2 February 2014 (UTC) Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- Samar → Samar Island – (Discuss) – Fails WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: A topic is primary for a term, with respect to usage, if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term.. While there was clear support for Samar->Samar (province), there was not that much for having the plain name be associated with the island. It was not at all discussed the importance of items from India or Israel. There are many people named Samar. Some links:* Samar (name)* Samar, Israel* Samar (1999 film), a Hindi/Urdu film* Samar (2013 film), an Indian Tamil film* Samar (yacht), one of longest motor yachts* Samar cobra (Naja samarensis)If until recently the province was thought of to be primary, then it probably was close in importance to the island. But if the two are close and many others exist, how can it be assured the current name does not violate WP:PRIMARYTOPIC? I will inform WikiProject India and Israel. Androoox (talk) 23:53, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Coach Ernie Pantusso → Ernie Pantusso – (Discuss) – I tried to rename Emmett Brown to "Doc Emmett Brown", but the result was not moved. There is Marshal Matt Dillon, but it has "Marshal" to distinguish the fictional lead character of Gunsmoke from the actor Matt Dillon. There is no other existing character/person "Ernie Pantuso". In the show, he is always called "Coach", as Emmett Brown has been called Doc. However, people prefer omitting "Doc", so "Coach" should be omitted, as well, to be consistent with titles named after Cheers characters' full names. Alternatively, you can vote for "Ernie Pantuso", which is the accurate name of the character. Per WP:COMMONNAMES, an accurate name should be used; regardless of sources, an inaccurate name should not be used. "Pantusso" is a misspelling of the Italian surname "Pantuso"; I wonder why "reliable" sources use 'Pantusso'. This character is undeniably Italian, albeit implied. George Ho (talk) 22:55, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Golden Globe Award → Golden Globe Awards – (Discuss) – I believe that the successful move at the Academy Awards page speaks for itself here. These pages all focus on the award ceremony, not the awards themselves.. Corvoe (speak to me) 21:00, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Critics' Choice Movie Award → Critics' Choice Movie Awards
- Directors Guild of America Award → Directors Guild of America Awards
- Producers Guild of America Award → Producers Guild of America Awards
- Screen Actors Guild Award → Screen Actors Guild Awards
- Annie Award → Annie Awards
- Saturn Award → Saturn Awards
- NAACP Image Award → NAACP Image Awards
- Writers Guild of America Award → Writers Guild of America Awards
- Edgar Award → Edgar Awards
- ADG Excellence in Production Design Award → ADG Excellence in Production Design Awards
- Young Artist Award → Young Artist Awards
- GLAAD Media Award → GLAAD Media Awards
- XRCO Award → XRCO Awards
- Common Gull → Mew Gull – (Discuss) – Wikiproject Birds has adopted the IOC nomenclature as its naming convention. It appears that a lot of informal conversation has already occurred regarding this species (at least since August 2009). Now formalizing the process here.....Pvmoutside (talk) 20:32, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Baclaran, Parañaque → Baclaran – (Discuss) – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC --RioHondo (talk) 16:18, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ayala Alabang, Muntinlupa → Ayala Alabang – (Discuss) – Per WP:UNDAB --RioHondo (talk) 16:14, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Alabang, Muntinlupa → Alabang – (Discuss) – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Alabang Town Center, Alabang railway station, Alabang Girls and Alabang–Zapote Road all pertain to the famous suburb of Metro Manila in Muntinlupa. --RioHondo (talk) 16:11, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ashton Gate → Ashton Gate, Bristol – (Discuss) – Further to the discussion at Talk:Ashton Gate Stadium, which proposed moving the stadium to the primary article, I believe that the term is ambiguous. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- Embrace (2014 album) → Embrace (Embrace (English band) album) – (Discuss) – Per WP:NCM "Disambiguate albums [...] by artist and not by year unless the [same] artist releases multiple albums with the same name" (emphasis mine). For example Weezer (1994 album), Weezer (2001 album) and Weezer (2008 album). Embrace albums were not released by the same artist, our standard is to further dismbiguate like in Lucero (Lucero entertainer album) and Lucero (Lucero band album) or Bleach (Bleach (American band) album) and Bleach (Bleach (Japanese band) album). © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 15:11, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hot 100 Airplay (Radio Songs) → Radio Songs (chart) – (Discuss) – the name of the chart has been officially changed to Radio Songs per this announcement on Billboard.com. Not sure if this should be move to Radio Songs, currently an article for an album which can be moved to Radio Songs (album), or if Radio Songs should be repurposed as a disambiguation page, or just continue with the use of hatnotes. Relisted. BDD (talk) 22:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC) StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:20, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
- Ben Richards (actor) → Ben Richards – (Discuss) – Already redirects here. --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC) Unreal7 (talk) 15:09, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Manchester capitalism → Manchester School of Economics – (Discuss) – "Manchester capitalism" gives 18,000 Google results, whilst "Manchester School of Economics" gives over 634,000 results. A scholarly study of the Manchester school by W. D. Grampp is titled The Manchester School of Economics (Stanford University Press, 1960). In Morley's Life of Cobden and Trevelyan's Life of Bright the phrase "Manchester school" appears many times, "Manchester capitalism" not even once. Relisted. BDD (talk) 19:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC) Britannicus (talk) 20:37, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Balangiga, Eastern Samar → Balangiga – (Discuss) – Per WP:PRECISE and WP:CONCISE. Disambiguation not needed as Balangiga redirects here. – RioHondo (talk) 15:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sagada, Mountain Province → Sagada – (Discuss) – Per WP:PRECISE and WP:CONCISE. Disambiguation not needed as Sagada redirects here. – RioHondo (talk) 15:02, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- Bellingham (disambiguation) → Bellingham – (Discuss) – Belingham is a redirect to the main article making this page difficult to find. Better to move this page to Bellingham?? Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:22, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- One Last Time (song) → One Last Time (Agnes Carlsson song) – (Discuss) – The 2012 Swedish single reached No.33 in Sweden, but One Last Time (Glen Campbell song) (1972 single from album Glen Travis Campbell) reached No.33 on the Billboard US Country song / 78 on the general Billboard 100 and gets 100 hits in Google Books. One Last Time (Dusty Drake song), a 9/11 memorial (2003 single) also gets some Google Book coverage. No one has written standalone articles for these 2 singles, but the Agnes song is WP:RECENT and it would benefit readers for the Swedish artist's single to not be titled as if it was the only (song). See One Last Time. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:37, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Palestinian freedom of movement → Palestinian restriction of movement – (Discuss) – Current title reflects the opposite of the subject of the article. Wickey-nl (talk) Relisted. bd2412 T 20:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC) 16:17, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- Free Christians (Britain) → Free Christian – (Discuss) – The cited article was originally under Free Christian but was merged, without consultation, to Liberal Christians. A page of non-specific content with links to various groups was then placed under Free Christian. There was a proposal made in October 2013 to return Free Christian page to its earlier state, using the content on Liberal Christians. Other interested users are broadly in agreement with the proposal. Please could someone action this. Relisted 19:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC) StockportFCF (talk) 13:22, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Frunzik Mkrtchyan → Mher Mkrtchyan – (Discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME Երևանցի talk 05:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Munich Tramway → Trams in Munich – (Discuss) – Standard form name for articles in this series, eg Trams in Germany, Trams in Frankfurt am Main (and also Trams in Amsterdam, Trams in Budapest, Trams in Lisbon, Trams in Vienna, etc). A similar move is proposed for Berlin tram and supported by several editors. See also my comments in the archived discussion above. Bahnfrend (talk) 13:06, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- Requirements of IFRS → Requirements of International Financial Reporting Standards – (Discuss) – WP:ARTICLETITLE 174.3.125.23 (talk) 06:09, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- Siren (noisemaker) → siren (device) – (Discuss) – Following on from the RM above, this seems a better disambiguator. Andrewa (talk) 20:02, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- Srbica → Skenderaj – (Discuss) – Official name of city Skenderaj in English and Albanian. The most recent references on this subject, Deçan and Gjakova -- Maurice07 (talk) 21:53, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Chasing the Sun (song) → Chasing the Sun – (Discuss) – chasing the sun the wanted produces over 13 million results, chasing the sun chris poland just 53,000, chasing the sun indigenous just 92,500 and chasing the sun tara oram just 58,400. The three albums received barely 300 views combined last month, the song almost 4,000. Unreal7 (talk) 14:19, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Want! → Want (Berryz Kobo song) – (Discuss) – Presence of absence of the ! on the Japanese song is not consistent or sufficient to disambiguate. Want (Berryz Kobo song) can redirect or vice versa In ictu oculi (talk) 14:11, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Adam Birch → Joey Mercury – (Discuss) – With Birch now apparently retired, "Joey Mercury" is by far the name under which he received his greatest exposure. This will allow more direct linking. McPhail (talk) 21:11, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Stop the Music → Stop the Music (P-Money song) – (Discuss) – If there's a primary topic it'd be Bert Parks' 1948 radio/TV show. The NZ DJ was No.1 in NZ in 2004, but outside New Zealand doesn't seem more notable than the Shirelles etc. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:11, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Władysław Sikorski's death controversy → Death of Władysław Sikorski – (Discuss) – Having the article be about Sikorski's death - perhaps merging the article about the crash into this article (the reverse of a previously proposed merge) - would make it a more comprehensive and informative article. The Bushranger One ping only 00:34, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Eitarō Ozawa → Eitaro Ozawa – (Discuss) –