Template talk:Infobox Gaelic games player

On 5 December 2022, it was proposed that this page be moved from Template:Infobox Gaelic Athletic Association player to Template:Infobox Gaelic games player. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Appearances line

I like the infobox, its badly needed, itl help keep the stats together. I put the info box on the Shane Ryan page to see how it looks. Should we remove the Appearances line, it'd be very hard to find those statistics. Frainc 00:41 May 28th

Looks good i'm goin to ask user:Boothy443 for some help with the code (Gnevin 15:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC))[reply]

How about changing the scoring bit to League 2006, and Championship 2006. It'd be easier to update on a yearly basis? Frainc 10:59 May 29th

I template that might be a good idea to catch ideas from is {{Football player infobox}}. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Update

I've finished my major update to the infobox here the fields . Fields in italics are required

If you have any trouble or question on the usage please feel free to drop me a line User_talk:Gnevin

code=Football/Hurling . Must be on or the other n/b the capitials
sport=Gaelic Football/Hurling
image=
name =short form name
irish =Name in irish
fullname= full name including middle names
placeofbirth= generaly their home county should be made a link where an artical excists
countryofbirth= also should be a link
dday= day of birth - bmonth = month of birth - byear = year of birth
dday = day of death - dmonth= month of death - dyear= year of death
feet= height in feet
inches = height in inches
occupation= Current job or if retired last job
nickname= where one is common
county=
province=
club= Current or last club
clposition=most played club postion, please use one of the following

   *  Goalkeeper
   *  Right Corner Back
   *  Full Back
   *  Left Corner Back
   *  Right Half Back
   *  Center Back
   *  Left Half Back
   *  Midfield
   *  Right Half Forward
   *  Center Forward
   *  Left Half Forward
   *  Right Corner Forward
   *  Full Forward
   *  Left Corner Forward

clubs=current club and any others use to separate clubs
clyears= years playing at the club(s) use to separate clubs
clapps(points)= apperences and total points at club(s) use to separate clubs
clcounty county = county championships
clprovince= club provincal championships
clallireland =club all-irelands
counties=current county and any others use to separate counties
icposition=most played club postion, please use one of the following

   *  Goalkeeper
   *  Right Corner Back
   *  Full Back
   *  Left Corner Back
   *  Right Half Back
   *  Center Back
   *  Left Half Back
   *  Midfield
   *  Right Half Forward
   *  Center Forward
   *  Left Half Forward
   *  Right Corner Forward
   *  Full Forward
   *  Left Corner Forward

icyears= years at senior intercounty level,' N.B senior only
icapps(points)= apperences and total points at county(ies)use to separate counties
icprovince= Senior provical championships
icallireland= Senior intercounty all irelands
nfl= National football league titles ,nhl should not be used if using this field
nhl=National hurling league titles,nfl should not be used if using this field
allstars= All stars
clupdate= Use (~~~~~) to make note when club information was last updated
icupdate=Use (~~~~~) to make note when county information was last updated

NFL

What dya write in the infobox to account for NFL titles? Frainc 15:25 8 Sept 2006

Scoring/ Appearnces

I take it this only is for Championship matchea and not NFL? (Derry Boi 13:15, 15 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Not all intercounty matchs but if you just have championship make just make a not at the bottom of the page saying so , i'm am planing to add the NFL/NHL to the infobox soon (Gnevin 13:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Dual players

Am stuck for ideas for dual players if i just add all the titles ect again the infobox will be far to long and is a non runner in my opinion. My idea is User:Gnevin/sandbox3 this has the down side of making the infobox too wide any idea would be helpful (Gnevin 13:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

See also User:Gnevin/sandbox5 , looks better dont you think (Gnevin 18:20, 15 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Yeah second one is better I think. (Derry Boi 19:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

All-Ireland Club titles

Is this just All-Ireland Senior Club Championship titles?

For example Enda Muldoon has won an All-Ireland Senior Club Championship medal AND a Kilmacrud Crokes 7s All-Ireland medal. Should we count this as one, or as two (with a note at the bottom)?

Count as one we cant have every thing in the infobox its huge as it is . I'd mention the 7's in the body of the articial as its not that important in the grand scheme of things (Gnevin 13:28, 16 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

No problem.

(Derry Boi 14:00, 16 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Wrapping

Why does "Gaelic football" or "Gaelic games" wrap to the next line when entered as the players sport? There seems to be plenty of room in one line. I just think it looks a bit messy. Scolaire 17:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Occupation??

Should there not be an entry in the player infoboxes for their jobs?? Just a thought.--Macca7174 02:10, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done (Gnevin 19:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Incorporating Templates

Could you make it that the infobox incorporates templates?? useful ones are {{template:Birth date and age}} (keeps the age of the player up to date, changing it on his/her birthdate), {{template:death date and age}} (calculates age of player at date of death), {{template:height}} (converts metric and imperial units in height). see Peter Canavan for examples of a few of them (obviously, not death date)--Macca7174 19:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The problem i see here is that clearly the death template is used to replace the living template eg if i put both in for a dead person their age will keep increasing after they have passed ,i'm going to have to think about this (Gnevin 18:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Ok so i can use {{Birth date}}, leave it with me for a while(Gnevin 19:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC))[reply]

OK cheers, I was really just enquiring if it could be done, but it'd be good if you could get it going.--Macca7174 22:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Captions

Just a quick request for a caption for images - such as on Marlon Brando.--Macca7174 22:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I had an attempt at doing it myself, and I think I was pretty close, check the page history - I might have missed a line of code or something (I don't write too mcuh code)--Macca7174 00:28, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I got captions to work (it doesn't seem to work when you provide both "alt" and "caption" though) See Joe Canning for an example. -- Seaninryan (talk) 16:13, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

italicised the Irish names

minor edit to italicise the irish names to comply with Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Foreign_terms. Plus its looks good.--Macca7174 _talk 20:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Resizing images.

Just wondering if there's a way of using a different sized image in the infobox from the default 250px one. Thanks. Derry Boi (talk) 12:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New fields

What about the possibility of including international caps and possibly Railway Cup medals in the infobox or would that be overkill?Derry Boi (talk) 23:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would prob be overkill as we'd have people asking for University stuff then .The box on Peter Canavan is nearly 1/3 the size of the page Gnevin (talk) 08:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah you're probably right actually.Derry Boi (talk) 09:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merging Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer and Template:Infobox GAA player

Following the recent nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer, I've had a go at merging it with Template:Infobox GAA player in the sandbox (permalink). It appears to work reasonably well. However, at the moment:

The sport parameter needs to be blank for a dual player
It is possible to have lines with Position, Football position and Hurling position at the same time.
If you use icallireland along with icallirelandf and/or icallirelandh, then both the entries will appear separately. The same happens with the provincial and club equivalents.

There are a few testcases listed at Template:Infobox GAA player/testcases, but it could use a few more. I could do with some help finding new and exciting ways to break it, and some consensus on whether it is suitable (or can be made suitable) for deployment, or if it ends up making things too complicated altogether. Teester (talk) 11:29, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work! This was on my "to do" list. Given the number of transclusions of this template (in comparison with the dual one), we just need to make absolutely sure the appearance does not change current transclusions. The dual ones can be checked individually since there are so few at the moment. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 21:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I kind of forgot about this for the past month or two! There have been a few changes in Template:Infobox GAA player since I started this, so I've updated the sandbox version to reflect these changes. I've also replaced Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer with this sandbox version and it seems to be working pretty well. The only issue I've identified so far is in cases where players using Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer had a {{{sport}}} parameter defined. Since there's only around 100 articles using this template, it should be easy enough to go through them and remove it from the affected articles. The next step will be to then incorporate the extra bits from Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer into Template:Infobox GAA player (and make sure there are no untoward effects there) Teester (talk) 15:36, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All seems to have gone well, so I've copied Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer to Template:Infobox GAA player. Both templates are now the same. My plan is now to leave things like this for about a week or so to give time for problems to be found, then redirect Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer here. Teester (talk) 21:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed that User:Magioladitis has removed all the elements from Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer from this template, so I'm not going to finish merging until I get feedback as to why it was done. It may be that he/she was simply unaware of the effort to merge the two templates, has found an issue with the merge, or feels that the merge is not a good idea. Teester (talk) 12:28, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Magioladitis has said it was just an error that the changes were undone, so I've redirected Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer here. Just need to update the documentation and then that's one less template to worry about! Teester (talk) 13:37, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering what was going on. Thanks yet again for your hard work on this template. I agree that it's better to have only one template! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added the missing "death_place" parameter and simplified a bit. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What happened to club position? Gnevin (talk) 13:24, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2016

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This template is used to make edit requests to the page. What exactly is the change you're proposing? Empty requests will be very quickly closed Not done, as this one has. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 17:00, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A link to a DAB page

In Des Ferguson, this template is generating the link All-Irelands in the infobox - i.e. to a DAB page, instead of the correct target of All-Ireland Senior Football Championship. Could someone take a look at this problem, please? Narky Blert (talk) 19:44, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The same thing happens in Leo McLoone. I suspect that he doesn't play camogie. Can someone please sort out the problems caused by this template? Narky Blert (talk) 01:37, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If the code= parameter is not specified, the infobox produces a link to a disambiguation page. I've added code=Football to both articles. This may be technically wrong (Ferguson is also a hurler) but I think it's reasonable as both are notable for their Gaelic football. This fix would not work for a player with significant achievements in multiple sports, but I can't find any examples which are currently causing a problem. Certes (talk) 08:55, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed a few others. This search (currently empty) should find most future problems. Certes (talk) 09:33, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Two proposals

These are proposals to include two additional types of parameters in this infobox (both are already found in Template:Infobox person and are implied by the inclusion of others in this infobox but not specifically included here).

#1: Addition of 'education' and 'alma_mater'

Currently there is place only only for the college team details of the player if the player attended a third-level institution. This links to the relevant team (UCD GAA, DCU GAA, UCC GAA, etc). The addition of 'alma_mater' would allow for the inclusion of the name of the third-level institution (University College Dublin, Dublin City University, University College Cork, etc) which surely precedes the team - the player attends as a student before joining the team. There is also the possibility that a player has attended a third-level institution without playing for its team, though having played for a county. The addition (above 'occupation' as seen at the 'person' infobox) would look as follows:

| feet               = 
| inches             = 
| nickname           = 
| education          = 
| alma_mater         = 
| occupation         =

#2: Addition of 'home_town' and 'residence'

Currently, only the 'birthplace' parameter is included. In many cases a player may have been born in a town they would not consider their home town (a town that happens to have a hospital). A player may have been born in Sligo or Clonmel but may consider their home town to be Nenagh or Tubbercurry. Likewise, where they live now might be different. The addition (based on the 'person' infobox) would look as follows:

| death_date         = 
| death_place        = 
| residence          = 
| home_town          = 
| feet               = 
| inches             = 
| nickname           =

Requested move 14 February 2019

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the template to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 04:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Gaelic Athletic Association player → Template:Infobox Gaelic games player – The player plays the sport(s) - in this case Gaelic games. Having the governing body in the title would be like having a Template:Infobox Football Association player or Template:Infobox FIFA player. It is also a shorter title. 2001:BB6:A32:6E58:7DA2:A7E3:A5FD:AA77 (talk) 21:53, 14 February 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. В²C ☎ 23:15, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Gaelic Athletic Association is the actual term of art, which makes this case different from the other examples named. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:31, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Camogie

This infobox doesn't work well for camogie or for female players in general. We could add a new parameter for gender (is there a standard name and value for that?) or produce a copy of the template for women's sports. I'm happy to help but would welcome advice on which of those routes to follow. Some links such as All-Ireland Senior Ladies' Football Championship are obvious but we'll need an expert to provide a list of relevant cups etc. Previous discussion here. Any thoughts please? Certes (talk) 16:29, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend you don't create a separate template for women. That has rather sexist implications (women in sports have to be handled differently). Coastside (talk) 18:38, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think that this template could be used (and is being used quite a bit) for camogie (and should it be used for Gaelic handball?), but camogie is not mentioned in the documentation at all. I would be happy to work on adapting this template to add formal, documented support for camogie. While I am at it, are there other GAA sports that should be added? – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:19, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All-Irelands points to dab page - need new codes

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This template is generating the link All-Irelands in the infobox - i.e. to a DAB page, instead of the correct target for some pages.

This search shows the problem pages.

Seems we at least need new codes for All-Ireland Senior Ladies' Football Championship for women. Also, the documentation only shows F for Football and H for Hurling, and there are clearly other options. Coastside (talk) 18:21, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed Séamus Darby which had a lowercase code. The other two examples are women, and this template only works properly for men: see previous section. Certes (talk) 18:32, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This request is not clear enough to act on for someone unfamiliar with the template. In the meantime, I have added tracking for unsupported parameters, using Category:Pages using infobox Gaelic Athletic Association player with unknown parameters. A red error message will appear when you preview a page in the category. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:42, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

After a further look at the documentation, it looks like you have |icallirelandf=, which links to men's football, and |icallirelandh=, which links to men's hurling. If you want to link to more sports, you may want to add |icallirelandlf= for ladies' football and |icallirelandc= for camogie, and corresponding parameters for all-stars, position, and related fields. Does it sound like I am on the right track? – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:55, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seems right, I think, but I don't get the code parameter. Why does that only have Football/Hurling? How is the code parameter supposed to work with the icallireland parameters? Very confusing.Coastside (talk) 00:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't looked at it enough to get it either, but I think I could figure it out. See above for my comments on camogie, which seems like it could and should be added. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: This change needs to be discussed before this template can be edited. We are discussing, and I will be happy to make changes to the sandbox once we figure out what is needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:55, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think the template works for people who only play one sport and for men in dual sports. The problem comes when someone is active in both camogie and [ladies'] football: the values for label20 to data23b assume that the two sports are hurling and men's football, and we can't use code= to set it right whilst keeping both sports. An article like Rena Buckley has no way to tell the template which two sports are required, other than manually coding the wikilinks as done for sport=, counties=, etc. Certes (talk) 14:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Managerial information

Just had a look at Brian Cody's article and there's no information in his infobox at all about his role as a manager, which is more iconic than his playing career. I suggest we add in parameters in regards to managerial stats. Alex Ferguson's infobox for example, has stats and data from his playing and management career. The Optimistic One (talk) 21:42, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 December 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 22:50, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Gaelic Athletic Association player → Template:Infobox Gaelic games player – As per the recent renaming here. It looks likes the infobox was moved to "Gaelic Athletic Association" to overcome the "GAA" disambiguation issue at its original title of "Infobox GAA player" - " in full" is what the edit summary says. But the infobox is also used for camogie players. The Camogie Association oversees this game, not the Gaelic Athletic Association. The infobox is also used for players of ladies' Gaelic football. The Ladies' Gaelic Football Association oversees that, not the Gaelic Athletic Association. The proposed title aligns it with others, such as Template:Infobox Gaelic games county board, Template:Infobox Gaelic games county team, Template:Infobox Gaelic games manager and Template:Infobox Gaelic games tournament. "Gaelic games" is also more CONCISE. Gaois (talk) 21:32, 5 December 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 00:21, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Nominator lays out a cogent argument that the proposed title is an improvement along multiple WP:CRITERIA. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:18, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested Edit - Allow infobox to be child

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Can a knowledgeable editor please adjust Template:Infobox Gaelic games player so that it can become a child module like Template:Infobox martial artist can? If you need a working example, view the infobox at CM Punk which has child modules within it CeltBrowne (talk) 19:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already done Use |embed=yes. See Justin McNulty for an example. Feel free to improve the documentation; it is not protected. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be able to explain why Alan Dillon is displaying two images when I try and use the format from Justin McNulty? CeltBrowne (talk) 03:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per the documentation: "This template uses the Wikidata property: image (P18)". I worked around the automatic display in lieu of fixing this rare occurrence with an edit to the template. Others are welcome to make the template more sophisticated. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]