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As one of the show's biggest fans, I cleaned up the page quite a bit. I reorganized several bits of information, summarized some sections, and fixed up the quality of the writing. I think it looks very good now. Would someone please consider removing at least some of its tags? I know, there aren't very many sources cited, and I tried my best to find some, but really, what kind of sources would there be for a section that only describes how the game is played? Apparently, Wikipedia frowns on using video clips as sources, but what else is there? And why wouldn't the site accept video clips? It's information straight from the horse's mouth! 67.80.250.40 (talk) 20:57, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For the video clips, Youtube video clips are not considered reliable sources and they could possibly violate copyrights (see WP:YOUTUBE). Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:59, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to clarify what User:Sjones23 said on this point. Certainly, episodes are not reliable sources, and certain, per WP:LINKVIO, we cannot link to them. However, episodes can be used acceptably as self-published sources in this article about the show of which the episodes are a part, if no original research is required to make the claims in question. When citing an episode like that, we cannot include the link to it (unless we are sure that it does not violate copyright law), but we can (in the case of this show) name the episode title and perhaps give a brief quote from the episode justifying the point made in the text, and we can leave it for interested readers who want to see the episode to their own means. RJaguar3 | u | t 17:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How are the episodes "not reliable sources"??? You're practically getting it straight from the horse's mouth so to speak! What's next, The Complete Peanuts is now "not a reliable source" for content regarding the Peanuts strip???75.81.197.59 (talk) 10:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
RJaguar3 is saying that the proper way to reference an episode is to use Template:Cite episode, but since linking to user-submitted videos that are a copyright violation is not allowed, there's not a 100% verifiable way to prove that what one user said happened in a given episode actually happened. Sottolacqua (talk) 12:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be a tattletale or anything, but the Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego? (game show) page has a YouTube video as one of its sources. The only other source cited on that page came from a website whose information might have come from that very Wikipedia page (although I can't prove that). Maybe somebody should take a look. 67.80.250.40 (talk) 02:32, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What's Wikipedia's take on IMDB as a source? I had an IMDB page listed as a source in one section, but it was removed. I'm not sure if Wikipedia took it away or if it was deleted by someone else, since somebody added more details to the section. 67.80.250.40 (talk) 04:52, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you can check WP:RS/IMDB, it clearly states that IMDB is not a reliable source and using it as a source is deemed as discouraging to Wikipedia. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. I just added several episode references to the page, as per RJaguar's description. I now think the site looks fantastic. Now can somebody PLEASE remove the tags? 67.80.250.40 (talk) 23:27, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need help

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One section contains the phrase "see below." I thought it only proper to make those words a link; the user would click on them and be directed toward the section it's referring to (in this case, the "Pilot/Early Episodes" section). How do I do that? 67.80.250.40 (talk) 19:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Why is there a "citation needed" tag on the Featured Crooks section? Do we need to verify that these are the crooks featured on the show? Just direct a reader toward any episode. Or is there supposed to be a citation for every crook, with the reference being an episode in which he or she was featured? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.117.118 (talk) 00:11, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 December 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved (page mover nac) Flooded with them hundreds 09:14, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

– Both of these are incorrectly disambiguated, as "TV show" is not a supported disambiguator under WP:NCTV. Indeed, both of these were moved from the proposed disambiguation a year ago by Coin945 without discussion or explanation. The ledes of both of these articles identify them as "game shows", and sourcing at the Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego? also identify it as a "game show" (though the The New York Times source does acknowledge, "The game-show format, however, is merely a disguise. "Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?," which made its debut on public television last week, is actually a geography lesson."). Still, "game show" seems to be the best disambiguation choice for these under WP:NCTV. Failing that, then these should be at "(TV program)", not "(TV show)". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:28, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. If anyone has any contradicting sources, ping me. --Gonnym (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose but do support moving both to "(TV series)", distinguishing both further from the video game series and the standand way to disamb TV shows from other titles. Just realized that TVG supports (game show) for such a situation. Support --Masem (t) 19:40, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Masem, I know you've withdrawn your oppose, but I just want to point out that "(TV series)" would be incorrect in a case like this – as per WP:NCTV, these shows do not "relate part of an unfolding story, feature recurring settings or characters, or express a unifying narrative theme"; instead, for these TV shows: "Each episode of an on-going show usually is self-contained with little connection to other episodes, other than title, format, hosts, and other on-air personalities. These shows generally lack on-going narrative or story elements." That makes these "TV programs" not "TV series" under WP:NCTV. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:50, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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Should we at least mention it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:1D98:1E01:2983:C947:7D2E:F78A (talk) 16:33, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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