Talk:Vishnu

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Text necessary info to vishnu wiki page such as,

By Adding, Destroyer of Evil, concept of Vishnu Avatar is protector of righteousness (good) and destroyer of u righteousness (evil) ,so it is necessary to add this word before bestower of karma. Narayana Name quote name by redirect link in below before The supreme being (vaishnavism) and by removing same title name link in other names

"Narayana" is not just another name or form of vishnu, narayana is aspect and important Epithet of vishnu deity.

it is necessary to add this names, because Entire description scriptures information found in this Narayana wiki article.

when i edit it, someone again reverted, it's any doubts anyone came discuss me, I answer for all debate it's necessary neutral point by good faiths or reverted my edits in vishnu wiki page history as reverted good faith . Blocked sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Durga is not the sister of Vishnu

Durga is not the sister of Vishnu, it is yogmaya who is considered the sister of Krishna. It is Meenkshi who is the sister of Aḻagar. Vishnu does not have any siblings, remove it. 2601:205:457E:9850:CDA0:2EC9:752C:5601 (talk) 01:15, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppet is back with another accounts

@Vinayvinyill is back with two sockpuppet accounts @Narine naresh and @Naanu neenu and is vandalising articles with his sectarian bias again. Please look into this. @Doug Weller @Abecedare @Dāsānudāsa Hbanm (talk) 20:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

@Hbanm, why you mentioned my username in this content, I can't understand, there is no relation with this @Naanu neenu account, he made edits on wiki pages, what he edit vandalism, I just correct it, you are confused with same letter names, What I add content in wiki based on reliable sources only. Narine naresh (talk) 00:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

What's your problem. Lol ! Naanu neenu (talk) 02:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

No problems, I just comment on yours user name, what you done in wiki, Don't add content without reliable source . Narine naresh (talk) 02:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Even Wikipedia gave me chance for editing, buy why you pls didn't get freedom for edits, this is too much. Block sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Encyclopedia is much better than Wikipedia. Naanu neenu (talk) 02:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Is anyone plz block This account

@Naanu neenu, he made vandalism on article. Narine naresh (talk) 02:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

This account @Naanu neenu

Also distributed my account by same letter name.

Block this @Naanu neenu Narine naresh (talk) 02:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

what a propaganda. I added similar content, but why you deleted. Wiki users are fools and rascal. Old image for Vishnu and new good statue for Shiva.

Politics by rascal red tiger and Chutiya Chronikiles Naanu neenu (talk) 02:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC) Block sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Blocked Naanu neenu. Doug Weller talk 08:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks but please block @Narine naresh too, both are the sockpuppets of same account @Vinayvinyill, he is trying to play smart by replying to himself with different account, look at the language used in both accounts and he is doing continuous vandalism in articles with his sectarian bias. Hbanm (talk) 11:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Agree, Narine naresh's recent vandalism on Shiva article clearly shows it. 245CMR•^💬📜 13:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

yes , I am Sock puppet block me.

Very waste time in wiki, edit wiki like swimming pool again and again in life. Narine naresh (talk) 13:24, 19 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Doug Weller

I kindly request you to plz block @Hbanm, which revert good edits Narine naresh (talk) 13:25, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey you wiki user's

@Hbanm

@Redtigerxyz

Why you jealous on Lord Vishnu. Narine naresh (talk) 13:27, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

May Lord Vishnu Bless to you all

OM Namo Narayanaya! Narine naresh (talk) 13:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC) Block sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

You and User:Bossfans are blocked as socks. Doug Weller talk 14:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I needed something to keep me awake this afternoon! Done. Doug Weller talk 14:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Please revert the edits by the two socks, thanks. Doug Weller talk 14:49, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Infobox Image

Although suggested by another sockpuppet, it seems he has suggested a good image of the deity with good composition, attributes and most importantly proper copyright info. One thing that can be noted that it depicts the god in his region form Guruvayurappan, but hardly any major difference between the 2 forms is present. Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 19:10, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@Dāsānudāsa new sockpuppet has reached out, pls see the case and do accordingly. Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 19:33, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I already changed the image of the Vaishnavism article (to one including a devotee praying to Vishnu, the lack of which seemed to be the cause of the complaint) on the off-chance it might placate Vinayvinyill and his various socks, but I guess not.

If other people could also report them, that would be good. I am running out of the energy/inclination to do so. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 09:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

@Dāsānudāsa

Adding old image to Vishnu and Godd statue for Shiva.

why so much difference my dear @Dāsānudāsa

So many statue of Vishnu are found in world such as Angkor wat Vishnu temple, Cambodia, Garuda wisnu kencana, so many, add This

if you didn't add atleast change shiva image add old photo to shiva, treat all are equal, you promote Shiva supremacy and wiki user's shows bad light to Lord Vishnu.

only karma can teach you.

Good Bye 👋🫂

@Chronikhiles

@Chariotrider555

@Seyamar

@Redtigerxyz Jeevan jeeva jr (talk) 11:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC) Block sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Why are you so obsessed with statues? The main image on the Vishnu article is much better than that on Shiva, in my opinion. Nothing on the latter article shows any kind of "supremacy". Dāsānudāsa (talk) 11:12, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

And why so many info on infobox shiva and less info to Vishnu, isn't supremacy?

Unnecessary content add in shiva wiki info, Mahakala is another name of Shiva but you put as God of time and Also you add Cosmic dancer, it's also unnecessary, because it's name is Nataraja, add his names to as other names not in info.

Shiva is a pan-Hindu deity, introduction should be pan-Hindu in nature, lead adds his sectarian as Supreme later Jeevan jeeva jr (talk) 11:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Shiva is a pan-Hindu deity, introduction should be pan-Hindu in nature, lead adds his sectarian as Supreme later

@Dāsānudāsa Jeevan jeeva jr (talk) 11:20, 25 August 2024 (UTC) Block sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

i have replaced the img with a better crop, @Dāsānudāsa I have made this article, along with few others, extended protected so u can relax a bit. Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 04:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Regarding the new image, I don't really like that we've basically given in to the endless sockpuppetry, but the picture is fine, I suppose. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 08:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

@Dāsānudāsa @Seyamar As has already been observed, this is Guruvayurappan rather than Vishnu. I'm not sure about this, but I b Chronikhiles ^(talk) 10:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I believe the peacock feathers of the image signify the deity being a form of both Vishnu and Krishna. I would suggest we favour a more pan-Hindu representation rather than a regional one if possible. Chronikhiles ^(talk) 10:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

You mean like the one that was there previously? 😜 Dāsānudāsa (talk) 10:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

@Dāsānudāsa I personally wasn't fully for it to be honest. We can do better. Chronikhiles ^(talk) 14:09, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

There may be some differences in the iconography of Vishnu and Guruyavuappan in general, but in this painting, it seems the artist has leaned more towards Vishnu. Regarding the Peacock feather, in recent times, it has been commonly associated with Vishnu along with Krishna. Personally, I don't feel much of problem with this image as it doesn't give the regional vibe and seems like a widely used depiction of Vishnu. Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 10:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

@Dāsānudāsa:@Chronikhiles:I do believe the best image for this article was the one from Ravi Varma press which had the god seated in centre surrounded by the other avatars. Only if that img could be cropped in a desired way, this discussion would have been settled months back. Nvm, I think the current image is satisfactory. Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 10:39, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

@Seyamar Alright I'm not going to press on this, as long as it doesn't violate policy we're good. Chronikhiles ^(talk) 14:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I personally do not think this image is a good choice for the infobox image. Firstly I do not believe we should be appeasing sock puppet edits in order to stop them from coming (the previous image had a consensus among non-sockpuppets). I agree with the criticism that this image rather depicts Guruvayurappan (with Krishna influence) rather than Vishnu. The image should be one that is non-sectarian and solely depicts Vishnu's attributes and not those associated with any avatar or local idol. Furthermore, I oppose what is the seemingly overwhelming preference for infobox images to be depictions of Hindu deities in the Western artistic tradition (painting or sculpture) (see Vishnu, Shiva, Lakshmi, Saraswati, Parvati, Kartikeya, Kali, Hanuman, etc.). These images in the Western art/scupltural style have artistic features (realistic human proportions, perspective, ) that for most of the history of the worship of these deities were unknown. Ideally, infobox images should be historically relevant depictions of these deities in artistic forms that are appropriate for high quality encyclopedic publications. While I am not opposed to the complete removal of Western-derived images of Hindu deities, their promotion over other artistic styles is highly problematic. Chariotrider555 (talk) 21:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Maybe a picture of murti of Vishnu from a temple can be used? e.g. Dashavatara Temple, Deogarh#/media/File:Deogarh, Dasavatara-Tempel Vishnu (1999) (cropped).JPG Asteramellus (talk) 16:17, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

plz dont add this sculpture even current image is 100 times better. Jayanthkaikini (talk) 16:28, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Statue of Vishnu in Batu caves.

File:Images (1)~2.jpg Jayanthkaikini (talk) 16:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

whats wrong to replace previous image, peacock feather related to Vishnu not only to Guruvayoor or Krishna.

Is anyone add Vishnu statue by suitable liscence Jayanthkaikini (talk) 16:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 16:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Jayanthkaikini yes - sorry for confusion - I saw the image on that temple page and thought it might be a murti in that temple. What I am suggesting is that if there is a picture of a Vishnu murti in a temple, that can be used instead of some depictions. Asteramellus (talk) 16:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia Nick names.

parkinson Dougweller

Rascal Red tiger

Donkey Dasanudasa

Chutiya Chronikhiles

Cardrive chariotrider

Foolish Hban

So called seyamar

@Seyamar

@Dāsānudāsa

@Chronikhiles

@Chariotrider555

@Hbanm

@Dougweller Jayanthkaikini (talk) 12:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

And so many people jeaulous to Lord vishnu for eg in wiki, such as Dasanudasa and red tiger and all fake shiva Andha Bhaktas and so called fools and rascals.

@Chariotrider555

@Chronikhiles

@Dāsānudāsa

@Seyamar

@Hbanm

@Dougweller

@Redtigerxyz Jayanthkaikini (talk) 12:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey Rascasl @Redtigerxyz, why so much jealous on Lord Vishnu, you randi, worst devil. you fool. Add good statue for shiva in wiki, but why you added old photo for vishnu. Jayanthkaikini (talk) 12:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Redtigerxyz

so many propaganda for Vaishnavism and lord Vishnu.

This red tiger 🐅 is from Maharashtra, he is shaivism, that' why he hate Vaishnavs, add old for Vishnu wiki page, why there is so many statue of Vishnu in the world.

And why you added shiva statue of Shiva for wiki page, why not added images. Lol

What a hypocrisy,,

There is no children for Lord Vishnu, but you added devasena and sundarvalli as daughter, even none of the purana mentioned about it, it found only in Tamil tradition. Not necessary added this

And there is more son of Shiva , but you deleted when someone added children name, Goddess Ashoka Sundari and Goddesses Manasa is also daughter of Shiva, it information found in some purana, but you deleted as not mainstream,

What a hypocrisy ??

You believe in some tamil tradition information that God children, but you didnt believe what information found in puranas, that' not mainstream for you,

Fake information is good citations for you and original authentic source is not main stream. Very non sense for this very jealous on Jayanthkaikini (talk) 12:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 16:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Jayanthkaikini, the Devasena point which u made is valid, but none of the above users have added that. Also, Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 14:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

The scriptures don't promote using such pathetic words and whining bigot nature, by which u are degrading yourself and your views. None of us give a damn care to it. Also stop tagging me unnecessarily Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 14:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Seyamar If I may, I suggest we engage no further with him rather than respond to his provocation. Chronikhiles ^(talk) 16:16, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 October 2024

Spelling error in the 'Iconography Section': should be 'abode' and not 'adobe' - see "His adobe is described as Vaikuntha and his mount (vahana) is the bird king Garuda.[32]" Sheemiee (talk) 10:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

done Asteramellus (talk) 11:17, 15 October 2024 (UTC)