Talk:Uma Musume Pretty Derby

Air dates are off?

The episodes are airing every Monday midnight in Japan, that means Monday 10 am in Washington, Jan 4, Jan 11 etc.

I am not sure whether Wiki uses the Japanese time, and midnight counts as next day. 157.181.151.144 (talk) 22:00, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

The current air dates presented on the page are correct for both seasons, episodes of season 1 started airing every sunday at 3:00 p.m. UTC, which is every monday at 12:00 a.m. JST as can be seen on the official website of the anime. Episodes of season 2 are currently airing every monday at 3:00 p.m. UTC, which is every tuesday at 12:00 a.m. JST as can also be seen on the official website of the anime. At 11:59 p.m. or 23h59, it is still monday but at 12:00 a.m., 00h00 or 24h00 it is now tuesday and Wikipedia uses the local time zones of where the products/events are selling/occuring, so JST in that case. 2A04:CEC0:118F:CE50:C79C:F952:E2B6:B388 (talk) 22:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be "Umamusume" without the space?

According to Cygames, that's how they are marketing the game/anime. Kinda important because it affects google search results 68.197.55.127 (talk) 19:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

It should. But all Western databases list it as separate, from ANN to MAL. Scineram (talk) 09:33, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

I think it's better we should follow Cygames' nomenclature as that is what the copyright holder is calling it, and WP:BLAR the current article in favor of Umamusume Pretty Derby, in spite of what MAL and ANN lists it as. --Jnglmpera (talk) 06:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Although MAL and ANN list it as Uma Musume, and it's more widely known as such, I believe it would be best to follow the official nomenclature. Crunchyroll, the distributor for it on the west, also lists it as Umamusume, and further reinforced by the release of the party game. 84.203.132.192 (talk) 08:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Timelines

Should we somehow indicate that lore and the history of the franchise were formally restarted after the release of the PAWORKS anime? I don't know if it was described in any sources, but the current plot directly contradicts the plot and style of the first trailers and manga (especially in terms of the amount of fanservice). Solaire the knight (talk) 06:14, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

The order of the characters

As a suggestion, I believe the characters should be listed in the order in the portal website, which is consistent and objective. The current order focus too much on the anime (and some manga), and is not general enough, especially lacking of the information of the video game. Uma Musume after all is a multimedia franchise. I will re-arrange the characters if no one disagrees. Thanks. NinetyNineDragon (talk) 17:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

I think simply listing them by alphabetic order is better. Officially there isn't any rhyme or rhythm as to what order the characters are listed on the official website (supposedly it's in the order of the character ID number but there isn't anything confirming that). --Jnglmpera (talk) 06:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I think listing them by alphabetic order does not make sense. First, intuitively Special Week should come first in the list, instead of Admire Vega. Second, I do not know any other examples of putting characters in alphabetic order. Third, the order in the portal website IS official, regardless of what it represents. NinetyNineDragon (talk) 16:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@Jnglmpera: Two weeks have passed, and I wonder whether you still oppose listing the characters by the order in the portal website. Rearranging the order is not minor edit and I would like to reach a consensus before doing that. Thank you. NinetyNineDragon (talk) 16:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

@NinetyNineDragon: I think the best option is to follow how ja:ウマ娘_プリティーダービー#ウマ娘 lists the characters, which is more or less in line with your suggestion... To quote the section's header: "記載順序はゲーム内のデフォルト設定に基づく（公式サイトのCHARACTERでも確認できる）。" which translates to "the order of listing is based on the in-game default settings (which can be checked on the official website's character page)," --Jnglmpera (talk) 05:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Although it is so much closer to my suggestion, I think if we follow "記載順序はゲーム内のデフォルト設定に基づく", it will focus too much on the game, which contradicts with one of the reasons why I suggest the change (the current order focus too much on the anime). Additionally, in the section's header, it is also mentioned "公式サイトのCHARACTERでも確認できる", which is equivalent to my suggestion: the characters listed in the order shown in the portal website. NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

@Jnglmpera: Another two weeks have passed, and may I have your comments? Thank you. NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Speaking from experience, the　Japanese fanbase seems to more or less follow the order that I said before (which is why the JP wiki has the characters listed in that order), since that's how the characters are listed on the website, and apparently the characters are sorted that way in the game (which most of the fanbase plays). Unfortunately that's all that I can say. --Jnglmpera (talk) 13:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Character list may not be necessary

Even in the Japanese version, there is an argument that a list of characters is unnecessary for reasons such as the amount of text, difficulty in reading, and suitability as a dictionary.ジョンドウ (talk) 15:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

I believe it is not an issue as there are plenty of lists of anime and manga characters in Wikipedia. NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:19, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't believe so. When people look up fictional works on Wikipedia (or any other sites such as TVTropes or any Fandom page) they also look up what kind of characters appear in said work, so if anything a character listing should be a prerequisite. --Jnglmpera (talk) 05:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Spoilers for Season 2 incomplete

The description for Season 2 only ends in Episode 3, other episodes are left uncomplete + season 3 and road to the top has no description whatsoever. Mfc6166 (talk) 15:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 21 July 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. I've also created a redirect per Jnglmpera suggestion. (non-admin closure) Waqar💬 14:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

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Uma Musume Pretty Derby → Umamusume Pretty Derby – The official title of the project by Cygames (the owners of the IP) has been Umamusume: Pretty Derby since at least 2021 when the mobile game released, see this press note, and has been more obvious with the releases on the west, including (attaching official websites) Umamusume Party Dash and the mobile game. This could be disputed due to western anime databases (mainly ANN and MAL) listing it as Uma Musume, but it should follow the official one (Crunchyroll, the distributor for the anime, also calls it this way) Kanade2611 (talk) 18:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Kanade2611 (talk) 21:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per WP:OFFICIALNAME. Uma Musume appears to be the WP:COMMONTITLE per Trends [1] AVNOJ1989 (talk) 20:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Rename or create at the very least create a redirect. Per my comment and related discussion at Talk:Uma_Musume_Pretty_Derby#Shouldn't_it_be_"Umamusume"_without_the_space?. --Jnglmpera (talk) 14:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Anime and manga, WikiProject Video games, and WikiProject Horse racing have been notified of this discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. Wikipedia titles do not correspond to the official name, but the common name in English sources, which in this case is definitely "Uma Musume". — Goszei (talk) 06:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.