User talk:157.181.151.144

Note for you

Many Hungarian towns have names with Slavic origin. That's not "Slovak nationalist propaganda", that's just history of a multicultural region. It would be good if you'd remember that, instead of throwing wild accusations. Azure94 (talk) 13:02, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

OK, many Hungarian toponyms are of Slavic origin. But there's no proof for Tatabánya specifically. The paper you cited (the link doesn't work for me, but I found that paper with a quick Google search at https://www.academia.edu/1286115/Eugen_Helimskis_Materialien_zur_Erforschung_der_%C3%A4ltesten_slawisch-ungarischen_Sprachkontakte) only contains something about the origins of "bánya" as a common noun, which I never challenged. I have two objections:

• No proof for the origins of "Tata". The paper you cited has nothing about it; the Slovak article has no references at all, while the Hungarian states something else than your addition (it says "Tata" is most probably a personal name, and it gives the impression that it's of a non-Slavic origin, while the inline citation says it's most probably formed in the Hungarian language, independently of other languages).
• No mention of Hungarian meaning of "bánya". OK, it's of Slavic origin, but not mentioning that it's present in the Hungarian language gives the impression that "Tatabánya" is a Slavic name "Hungarianized", while I'm pretty sure it's a compound of Hungarian words "Tata" and "bánya" (which in turn have their own origins, of course).

--157.181.151.144 (talk) 18:42, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

"Tata" is of Slavic and Indo-European origin. Hungarian is NOT an Indo-European language. Thus it's obvious that the name of the town can't be of Hungarian origin. The present name is made of two words, both of which have a non-Hungarian origin. Azure94 (talk) 14:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Also, I'd love to hear if you think the existence of this building in Tatabánya is too "Slovak propaganda". It seems to me that you have a chauvinistic reaction to anything reminding you of how multicultural the old Kingdom of Hungary was. Azure94 (talk) 14:26, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

The Wiktionary entry you cite doesn't state that the Hungarian word "tata" or the Hungarian name "Tata" would be a descendant of this Proto-Slavic word. I never said it isn't present in the Slavic languages, but there's no proof yet for the Slavic origin of "Tatabánya".

For the house: if I'd been chauvinistic, I'd say it's called "Bánhida Slovak house" because it's the only Slovak house in Bánhida. But I'm not—I only say that at least the relative majority has always been Hungarian, so claims about a larger place's (like Tata's/Tatabánya's) name being non-Hungarian require reliable sources—, I recognize that many other nationalities were present in the pre-1920 Hungary; of course the existence of the house is no propaganda, it's a fact (in contrast with your adding, which is at most a claim, without reliable sources proving it). --157.181.151.144 (talk) 00:25, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

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