Talk:Monster Truck Madness

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Review: April 15, 2020. (Reviewed version).

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Did you know... that the 1996 racing video game Monster Truck Madness was designed to accurately simulate monster-truck events such as drag tracks and enclosed circuit races?

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Monster Truck Madness 64 should NOT be merged with this wiki article.

Monster Truck Madness 1 and Monster Truck Madness 2 are related games. Monster Truck Madness 64 is not. It has nothing to do with the first, it was not developed by the same company and was not commissioned by microsoft. It's played on a game console, not on a PC. While there are similarities in the titles the three games have nothing in common. They do not belong on the same page and should receive completely separate treatment.

However, I will acknowledge that because each game deals with the subject of monster trucks then it would be understandable if a link to each was included in the other's 'related' links area.

Note. If Monster Truck Madness 64 was to be merged with mtm1 and mtm2 then it would follow that you should also merge the two games 4x4 Evolution and 4x4 Evolution 2 with this article as well... since they 'were' developed by the same software company and in fact use the same game engine and can even run some mtm tracks. However, that would be wrong too since the two 4x4 Evolution game titles are not monster truck games, they do not share the same game physics, the publisher was godgames (not microsoft) and in fact the developer was seeking to distance themselves from their earlier work. If the purpose of a wiki is clarity of thought, ideas and understanding, then it is imperative that MTM64 be kept separate and distinct from MTM1 and MTM2 and that Evo1 and Evo2 be kept separate from them as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.8.174.158 (talk • contribs) 06:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:36, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a trial version of Monster Truck Madness appeared as part of Microsoft Interactive CD Sampler? Source: (October 1996) Microsoft Interactive CD Sampler (Microsoft), scene: Games Arena: Monster Truck Madness Trial Version (Aya's note: Look at this YouTube video of a guy (namely Roadgeek) going through Microsoft Interactive CD Sampler, because at one point it showcases the installation screen for Monster Truck Madness Trial Version after he clicks on the Monster Truck Madness logo shown in the Games Arena section; he's also using a Windows 9x machine, like 95 or something. Also view this video of CEO100able playing the trial version of Monster Truck Madness)

ALT1: ... that the 1996 racing video game Monster Truck Madness was designed to accurately simulate monster truck events such as drag tracks and enclosed circuit races? Source: (May 16, 1996) Microsoft Monster Truck Madness Crushes and Leaps Its Way Into Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) (Microsoft)
Comment: Here's the two references that I cited in the article:^[1]^[2]
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John Huntington

5x expanded by I'm Aya Syameimaru! (talk). Self-nominated at 07:55, 28 February 2020 (UTC).[reply]

@I'm Aya Syameimaru!: The hook provided is a little bland: perhaps something else can be said about the game, whether it be about its development or its reception and legacy? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I have an idea: Look at the "ALT1" I've added! _{Aya Syameimaru 文々。新聞} 02:35, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's still a bit on the vague side. Maybe a simple explanation of what kind of accuracy this means? You can refer to the development section for ideas. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:00, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I modified it. Just refined the hook, made it more obvious. _{Aya Syameimaru 文々。新聞} 12:26, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds okay, although it's admittedly not a spectacular hook. Would it be a good idea to mention the year of release as well? I don't think accurate simulations were commonplace back then. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 07:26, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes I agree it's a good idea to put the year of release in the hook. And you know what? I just did it now. _{Aya Syameimaru 文々。新聞} 07:57, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article meets DYK expansion requirements, length is good, hooks are cited inline and verified. Currently unable to check for close paraphrasing as Earwigs is currently having technical issues. A QPQ was done but not necessary as this is the nominator's first nom. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:54, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think the copyvios are very unlikely. I did check for close paraphrasing with Earwigs, and found basically no rip-offs in my text ever. Aya Syameimaru 文々。新聞 11:07, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I now modified the alternative hook to link to Monster truck. Aya Syameimaru 文々。新聞 17:43, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should be good to go now as Earwigs managed to work and didn't find any close paraphrasing. I'm approving only ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now the main page is ready for some Down & Dirty Racing! I'm Aya Syameimaru! I 文々。新聞 05:51, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Microsoft (October 1996). Microsoft Interactive CD Sampler (Microsoft Windows). Microsoft. Scene: Games Arena: Monster Truck Madness Trial Version.
^ "Microsoft Monster Truck Madness Crushes and Leaps Its Way Into Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3)". Microsoft. Microsoft. May 16, 1996. Archived from the original on February 16, 2020. Retrieved February 16, 2020.

March 2020

Hi there, I'm Aya Syameimaru! I guess this is the first time you're reviewing a Good Article Nomination (GAN). If you read the Reviewing section of the GAN Instructions page, then good luck! I expanded and improved the article frequently for over a month. I'm Aya Syameimaru! I 文々。新聞 06:42, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't be surprised if you played Monster Truck Madness. I thought you enjoyed it well. I'm Aya Syameimaru! I 文々。新聞 07:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think they are actually reviewing the article. I would suggest speedy delete the GAN and start over. GamerPro64 16:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I guess so. I'm Aya Syameimaru! I 文々。新聞 17:18, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Monster Truck Madness/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sjones23 (talk · contribs) 21:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I'll start the review here. First, I think the lead may need to be at least two to three paragraphs as per WP:LEADSECTION (so far, it's about 23,905). There was also one citation that's already dead, but it's all fixed up. I'll continue reading the article and assess some of the sections before giving a final rating. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Currently, the lead has two paragraphs. I'm Aya Syameimaru! I 文々。新聞 21:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment (appropriately enough): The truck Samson is only mentioned in an image caption. Although it makes sense to only list those of the game's twelve trucks that have Wikipedia articles (which I think is what's being done in "Gameplay"), it might make sense to include the other eight in a footnote. --Usernameunique (talk) 01:28, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. I'm taking your good idea into consideration. I'm Aya Syameimaru!I文々。新聞Iuserbako 01:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, now I implemented your suggestion into the article with this footnote:

Other monster trucks include Bear Foot, Boogey Van, Carolina Crusher, Monster Patrol, Overkill, Power Wheels Bigfoot, Rampage, Samson, and Wildfoot.

I'm Aya Syameimaru!I文々。新聞Iuserbako 01:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, I'm Aya Syameimaru!. As you can see, I've adjusted it slightly in the article. Also, although it's an uncontroversial statement, I would still add a source to the footnote. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added a source to the footnote. I'm Aya Syameimaru!I文々。新聞Iuserbako 05:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the article takes 9-10 minutes to read, and at this point, with 1180 words, can be reviewed with ease I think. «“I'm Aya Syameimaru!”I„文々。新聞“I„userbako”» 10:31, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

All right, here's my assessment of the article.

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

This article has now been passed. Nice work. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:58, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are you ready for some down and dirty racing? Go! «“I'm Aya Syameimaru!”I„文々。新聞“I„userbako”» 06:18, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

4x4 Evo

@2nd Ias: Does 4x4 Evo have any relation to this game? If so, I think that it should be more clearly explained. If not, it should probably have mention cut as it appears rather awkward and unrelated. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 05:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[trialver-1] Microsoft (October 1996). Microsoft Interactive CD Sampler (Microsoft Windows). Microsoft. Scene: Games Arena: Monster Truck Madness Trial Version.

[e3-2] "Microsoft Monster Truck Madness Crushes and Leaps Its Way Into Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3)". Microsoft. Microsoft. May 16, 1996. Archived from the original on February 16, 2020. Retrieved February 16, 2020.

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