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Wrong aircraft type on S3E5

The Philippine Airlines 434 Aircraft should be Boeing 747-283BM Combi not McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30F 222.127.220.123 (talk) 14:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is listed at the bottom of the box not at the top. CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 00:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

S24E1 notes

Since its now been removed twice, i’m making this talkpage post. We add notes on various episodes, some of which could reasonably be seen as pointless, like “this accident was remade in another series” or even “this was the 100th episode”.

For this episode, i think its important that we note the fact Dave Cronin isn’t actually alive any more [he passed away in 2015], but this also highlights that this is a unique situation that hasn’t occurred before: in almost every other episode made thus far, if someone involved with the accident plane or the investigation is no longer alive to be interviewed, either someone else on either side is interviewed [ie the first officer, a fellow pilot from the airline, a surviving flight attendant or one of the non-lead investigators involved in the investigation], or a random investigator unconnected to the investigation is asked to provide commentary on what happened.

Instead, Mayday have chosen to use what they’ve repeatedly stated as being extremely low quality footage [and also content which Nat Geo technically don’t have rights for, hence the remakes of these old episode incidents to begin with] from the interview they did way back in 2003 for the original episode, but haven’t actually called out anywhere the fact that he isn’t alive any longer. Thus, if someone watches the episode and hasn’t seen S1E1, they would be forgiven for thinking Cronin is still alive, even though he’s not.

with that in mind, i feel that a note on this probably-one-off situation is relevant to the article, since where else should this be mentioned? Its not relevant to the accident, but its relevant to the episode that was broadcast, and this page is focused on details about the episodes created by Cineflix for the Mayday series. Thanks. — CitroenLover (talk) 23:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It has been 5 days since I posted this discussion topic, but it has received no reply. I will leave it for another week, but should nobody reply here by next Saturday, I will just restore my edits to the page, as an assumption that there is no issue with them. -- CitroenLover (talk) 19:22, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need other editors to agree on this point before putting it back on via consensus. Maybe in the future when somebody agrees it should be on, but for now, leave it out. FONHJKKKK (talk) 20:16, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FONHJKKKK I agree that consensus is needed, but as you can see, nobody in the community that edits the Mayday pages is posting in this discussion arguing for or against the addition of this information, other than myself. I was asked to start a talkpage post to seek consensus, several days have passed with no editors actually contributing, much less the initial editor who reverted my contribution without providing a compelling reason. Telling someone to “leave it” isn’t a very compelling reason to exclude useful contextual information from a Wikipedia article.

WP:BOLD is a thing as well: if no editors offer compelling reasons “not” to include the information, then restoring that information to the page is not going against consensus, it is simply a case that no consensus exists to keep the information off the page.

As you’re here, do feel free to contribute towards the actual topic of discussion, if you have anything that can be added, otherwise my point stands that there isn’t any opposition from anyone to the inclusion of this information on the page, other than “I don’t like the information”. — CitroenLover (talk) 20:53, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the information is simply not necessary, remember that National Geographic has the International Transmission rights and no other channel opposes it making its decisions Since it has more than 97% of international rights for transmission and Internet users and fans of the series are not interested in the change of episodes, because it is a documentary that still has the memory of and the legacy of the pilots, that is why the Remakes are made, in the form of Honor to Those who walled this is seen on Alaska 261, Japan Air 123 and United 811, The essence of the original is maintained with some High Resolution Felix202 (talk) 03:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Air Disasters S7

It seems that Smithsonian might be moving to release S7, as they aired "Lockerbie Disaster". However, YTTV may have incorrectly listed it as S23E2102.

I'll update it once more episodes come out. Interstate264 (talk) 02:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, this is really weird. They're airing Mayday season 7, but aside from the episode you note, none of the episodes have a season or episode number! And there's no reference to find the correct season. Smithsonian's Air Disasters page is a redirect to Paramount+, but the P+ page only lists 19 seasons.

Regarding "S23E2102"... up until season 18 in 2022, Smithsonian always had 10 episode seasons. Season 18 had 24, back to 10 for season 19, and then a whopping 30 for season 20 (which was all re-edits of The Accident Files). So either the new episodes are season 21, or season 20 really should have been S20, S21, and S22 at 10 episodes each, with the new season being S23.

This is not the first time Smithsonian has made error is the listing data. Msschmitt (talk) 05:16, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More confusion:

Spectrum's guide now lists this season's episodes as continuations of season 20: Scratching the Surface is S20 E31, Lockerbie Disaster is S20 E32, etc.
But if you go to the Smithsonian Channel's TV Schedule, it is season 21. For example, Falling Fast is S21 E6.

So which is it? I'm inclined to go with S21. Msschmitt (talk) 20:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Smithsonian Channels TV Schedule and the Spectrum guide are now, finally, both in agreement: we're watching "new" episodes in Air Disasters Season 21. So I'm updating as such in the page. Msschmitt (talk) 20:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can we add Crash of the Century back?

It got cut when they remade the episode and because it's legally in a weird middle ground spot, but since then other episodes definitely part of Mayday have also been remade and other S1 and S2 era works have had weird distribution issues.

Also two separate official channels uploaded it as a Mayday episode and everyone in the community calls it one, I think the choice years ago to cut it from the spot was misguided.

Here's the source of it to add back if it's agreed-

Spin-offs (2005)

Mayday has one episode that is not a part of any particular season: Crash of the Century, a 90-minute special investigating the infamous Tenerife airport disaster.

#	Title	Incident	Original air date
Special	"Crash of the Century"	The Tenerife airport disaster	2005
On 27 March 1977, the deadliest-ever aviation accident occurs at Los Rodeos Airport (now known as Tenerife-North Airport) in the Canary Islands, when Pan American World Airways Flight 1736 and KLM Flight 4805 collide on the runway in thick fog during the KLM aircraft's attempt to take off, killing 583 people. The poor weather played a part in the disaster, but the fundamental causes of the crash were numerous errors by the pilots of the two aircraft and the airport's air traffic control officers. Note: The television program was a co-production between French and Canadian companies, with Cineflix, Adélaïde Productions and Galaxie Production co-producing.^[1] A derivative production for NOVA, The Deadliest Plane Crash, first aired on PBS on 17 October 2006.^[1] The program is not branded as Mayday by Cineflix.^[2] Type of aircraft: Flight 1736: Boeing 747-100; Flight 4805: Boeing 747-200B

2604:3D09:1F7F:8B00:D18D:E940:F4B1:B6F7 (talk) 00:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be better if it was just mentioned in the actual Tenerife episode. Interstate264 (talk) 18:40, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ ^a ^b "The Deadliest Plane Crash: NOVA investigates the worst aviation accident of all time. Aired October 17, 2006 on PBS". NOVA. Archived from the original on 30 October 2012. Retrieved 30 October 2012. Crash of the Century © Galaxie Production / Near-Miss Productions Inc./ Adélaïde Production, 2005. A France-Canada co-production. Produced by Galaxie Production - Cineflix - Adélaïde Productions in association with Canal D, an Astral Media Network; M6; BSkyB
^ "Crash of the Century". Cineflix Productions. Retrieved 30 October 2012.

[Deadliest-1] "The Deadliest Plane Crash: NOVA investigates the worst aviation accident of all time. Aired October 17, 2006 on PBS". NOVA. Archived from the original on 30 October 2012. Retrieved 30 October 2012. Crash of the Century © Galaxie Production / Near-Miss Productions Inc./ Adélaïde Production, 2005. A France-Canada co-production. Produced by Galaxie Production - Cineflix - Adélaïde Productions in association with Canal D, an Astral Media Network; M6; BSkyB

[2] "Crash of the Century". Cineflix Productions. Retrieved 30 October 2012.

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