Talk:Kardashev scale

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Huber Scale

Since then, the Kardashev scale has (due to being morally gravely misguided) been obsoleted and substituted with the Huber scale which is in accordance to the unique macro-ethical progression (rather than the to it strictly mutually exclusive energetic progression) based Fermi Paradox solution ( https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Fermi_paradox ):

The "Huber Scale" (using wildlife animal behavior as reference standard; though to be fair, wildlife animals do spread but it's limited to inter-continental scales, not interplanetary or interstellar, except possibly for interplanetary spread of extremophile microbes riding low-mass ice moons' super-sized water geysers' vents spewing material 10.000 kilometers to space & other ice moons part of ice moon systems consisting of dozens or hundreds of them):

-3: The extreme sub-animal level: A super-spreader civilization, for which (macro-)ethics is a foreign science, deliberately inducing the kick-starting of wild gruesome evolution of life all around itself interstellarly.

-2: The mediocre sub-animal level: An ethically orientation-less or too careless civilization that directly by its outer space activities (but also indirectly due to not hiding from others, consequently mis-guiding them & indirectly, remotely) risks the kick-starting of evolution of life all around itself, interstellarly accidentally.

-1: The mild sub-animal level: An ethically insecure but reluctant, hiding civilization that risks kick-starting evolution all around itself but just interplanetarily accidentally.

0: The wild animal equivalence level: A hiding civilization that macro-ethically behaves equivalent to as if it'd been just yet another animal species, staying on its planet.

1: A hiding civilization that is taking out & preventing some at interplanetary distances nearby planet-scale instances of evolution of life.

2: A hiding civilization that consistently, long-term keeps the local interstellar region of their deep space sovereignty (regarding safe intervention operations) impotent, sterile, wildlife-less, with especial focus on nearby super-spreader civilizations.

3: The ethically scientifically grounded, benevolent-god-like, hiding, infinitely long-termist & maximum-scale Schelling point collaboration & geologists, chem- & (evolutionary) biolog-ists, astro-nomers & -physicists, cosmologists, psycho- & socio-logists, computer scientists & mathematicians civilization that correctly identifies the cosmos as the ultimate meaning & utility monster to direct all efforts toward and that searches for, identifies & upon safe macro-ethical preferability assessments exploits step-wise towards cosmic time- & space-scales critical & in controllable or predictable manner in compound-effect concatenations upwards-cascading butterfly-effect branching- & tipping-points of the chaotic cosmic dynamic, namely on interplanetary, interstellar, galactic, inter-galactic & inter-big-crunch-cycle levels (as if it merely were weather-prediction & -manipulation towards ultimately for the overall summed up greater good favorable outcomes). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.192.195.234 (talk) 19:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you would like to create a draft article on the Huber Scale: Draft:Huber Scale. Peaceray (talk) 20:36, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you should try to stop writing while drinking. 2804:1B3:7080:DC0C:196C:723E:796E:D78B (talk) 19:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion between Energy, Power, and Solar Irradiance

The introductory section ‘Origin of the classification - First publication (1964)‘ alternately uses the terms “Energy“ and “Power“, and has a link under “Power“ that leads to “Solar Irradiance“.

This is incorrect and confusing. These are three distinct physical concepts :

I) The unit of measurement for Energy - a basic physical quantity, i.e., a capacity for producing work, heat, and/or light - is the joule (J), with dimensions [M1L2T-2]

II) The unit of measurement for Power - the rate of energy transfer - is the watt (W), with dimensions [M1L2T-3]

III) The unit of measurement for Solar Irradiance - the rate of solar energy transfer on and/or through a surface - is the watt per square meter (W/mˆ2), with dimensions [M1T-3]

In his 1964 paper, p. 219, Kardashev classifies types of technologically developed civilizations according to energy consumption quantified in erg/sec (or erg/s). The erg is a unit of energy and the erg per second (erg/s) is a unit of power with dimensions [M1L2T-3], where 1 erg/s is equal to 10E-7 watt or 0.0000001 W.

Therefore, the term “energy“ in the aforementioned section is to be replaced with “power“ or “rate of energy consumption“ where appropriate. Lambda70 (talk) 17:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]