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Map of countries visited???
[edit]Why is there a map of countries he has visited? He's not some head of state or something. It looks like IShowSpeed himself has added that. Either that or one of his baby fans. 2405:201:4009:5182:F50B:5F71:498C:E8CC (talk) 14:01, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Removed. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:08, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- IMO this page shouldn't even exist. This is a TikTok influencer who is a non-notable figure. He's done nothing of historical or societal significance, unless you consider jump-scaring a 6 month old baby noteworthy. Why he even has a wikipedia page is beyond me, and I would encourage anyone with better edit access than myself to delete it and keep it deleted. Influencers who benefit from the suffering of others should not be given a platform or pseudo-officialization by Wikipedia. Unim1337 (talk) 16:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- He's one of the biggest social media influencers and one of the biggest streamers on YouTube. Wdym he's not notable enough? EarthDude (talk) 08:16, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- IMO this page shouldn't even exist. This is a TikTok influencer who is a non-notable figure. He's done nothing of historical or societal significance, unless you consider jump-scaring a 6 month old baby noteworthy. Why he even has a wikipedia page is beyond me, and I would encourage anyone with better edit access than myself to delete it and keep it deleted. Influencers who benefit from the suffering of others should not be given a platform or pseudo-officialization by Wikipedia. Unim1337 (talk) 16:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- FYI...it seemed to have been re-added. I have since gone in and removed the map and am trying to clean up this article as a whole. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 13:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- It got re-added again. I have just reverted the responsible user's edit. Underdwarf58 (talk) 10:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Schestos here are the details. Feel free to object if you want to readd the svg file Underdwarf58 (talk) 02:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I object to this because his content includes IRL streams in different countries. So wouldn't make sense to have a map?
- The arguments made by the IP and @Unim1337 are ridiculously stupid and are not of Wikipedia's standards. Schestos (talk) 01:31, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose. Map constitutes trivia and original research (unless every country he visited is listed in a reliable source). This doesn't belong in a Wikipedia article in my opinion. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 02:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Reliable sources for this topic are certainly available. Schestos (talk) 00:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Like what? Underdwarf58 (talk) 00:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Given that he brings crowds to wherever he is, news articles have covered him, including here in Australia. Schestos (talk) 04:40, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Which news articles? Can you give at least 2 links? BadEditor93 (talk) 15:08, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- And this is just two examples from one country. Schestos (talk) 11:55, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes...he may get media coverage and thus is a notable person but the countries map is still original research and is inappropriate for a Wikipedia article. It's trivia. Those sources you mentioned don't list every country he has visited. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 12:26, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Which news articles? Can you give at least 2 links? BadEditor93 (talk) 15:08, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Given that he brings crowds to wherever he is, news articles have covered him, including here in Australia. Schestos (talk) 04:40, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Like what? Underdwarf58 (talk) 00:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Reliable sources for this topic are certainly available. Schestos (talk) 00:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose. Map constitutes trivia and original research (unless every country he visited is listed in a reliable source). This doesn't belong in a Wikipedia article in my opinion. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 02:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Multiple issues template
[edit]Just added a multiple issues template to this article of various problems I think it has, between its many poor sources (i.e: entertainment/hype/rumor-containing/exaggerated/celebrity gossip sources), the way it is written, and the excessive details on trivial, non-encyclopedic things IShowSpeed has done. It seems like a fan wrote the article (and that map is probably original research).
Let me know if that multiple issues template is excessive or if it accurately depicts this article's many problems!
Unsure if the article warrants deletion, just needs massive cleanup. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 16:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can't tell if it contains promotional content or not.
- The article does at least do a decent job at portraying IShowSpeed's several JP controversies, but still seems like it is well below WP standards between sourcing, tone, and excessive detail on irrelevant things he has done.
- Some examples are the Norway segment and the Miami speeding luxury car segment.
- The sentence "...to prove his athleticism and silence skeptics who had previously doubted the authenticity of his car jump videos" shows clear bias and non-neutral tone.
- I think the article can be saved, but needs a lot of work to get it up to WP standards. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 16:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think a conflict of interest is happening here. I think many of the editors of this page are simply Speed fans, which leads to bias/advocacy/promotion. Nothing wrong with being a fan, but it leads to a buildup of poor quality edits over time. I do believe he's notable given his online presence, but the right sources and tone have to be used and poor quality/non-notable/WP:CRYSTALBALL-type info needs to be removed.
- General info: See AfD discussions for Speed's tours here and here. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 19:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
I was going to suggest that to start off dealing with the multiple issues, that the sourced paragraphs talking about him meeting various celebrities be removed. Celebrities meeting other celebrities isn't really notable in of itself, as that's just a normal part of being a huge influencer. But with the exception of the Christian Ronaldo paragraph (which is the only one that makes sense to keep up given Watkin's history with him), it seems someone already beat me to it. Zucat (talk) 19:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. There was/is too much "celebrity gossip" in this article. Watkins' controversies are important to cover, but Watkins meeting X person or going to X place really isn't important (though the tours are worth mentioning). Also, overly detailed paragraphs on what he did in places or what he did in certain streams is ridiculous. For instance, there was 5+ sentences of him getting injured/mobbed by a crowd in Norway, so I cut down majorly on that.
- I guess him meeting the Albanian PM can be removed also. This article's getting there. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 21:26, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just removed Indian singer and Albanian PM. Kept Noah Lyles exhibition race. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 21:33, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Citation help
[edit]To anyone that understands site design and wiki syntax better than me, I have a question.
On several citations in this article (particularly the beginning), the following text appears:
This reference is defined in a template or other generated block, and for now can only be edited in source mode.
Is there any way to get the citations accessible through visual editing? Is there a wiki bot out there to free these references from their template? Given the dozens of sources in this format it would be tedious to do manually.
Also, I've noticed that multiple references are used multiple times, so to condense those into one reference would be good to do. I'm sure a wikibot out there exists for that, but not sure how to find one.
Figured I'd ask anyone more qualified than I am. Will make cleaning up this article much easier. Thanks!
KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 18:36, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Disregard...manually did it. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 22:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Woah
[edit]That's a lot of issues on this page. I don't know if it's the most issues in the history of this Wikipedia page. Bakhos2010 (talk) 11:51, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- My initial reaction may have been a bit much, but the article did need a lot of cleanup (and still does). KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 21:27, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2024
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there is some misinformation i would like to fix Antony5050 (talk) 14:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:19, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2024
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I need to edit 51.179.109.68 (talk) 19:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, and the reason why you need to edit is? MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not done; give a more specific example of what you want to do to the article, preferably in a "change X to Y" format - OpalYosutebito (talk) 19:20, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
add old pictures from 2021 to the article
[edit]User:KnowledgeIsPower9281 a lot of big youtuber pages such as PewDiePie and MrBeast have their old pictures in their article despite it has no relations/mentions on the article at all. for example the pewdiepie one, theres a picture from when he was at Pax that has no mention at all on the article yet it got added there. the mrbeast one there's a picture back in 2018 that has no corelation at all yet it got added too. so i don't really get whats the problem with adding old pics of speed in the article Http iosue (talk) 17:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @Http iosue, see my response on my talk page. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 15:08, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
The amount Adin had to pay.
[edit]I think it would be better for the readers if someone added the amount Adin Ross had to pay to bail Ishowspeed[1] out of jail. 49.110.174.69 (talk) 04:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2025
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add - former mayor of lima, peru under occupations 2603:6080:77F0:7550:9031:F82C:D71:8F41 (talk) 06:56, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 14:29, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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