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Reference named "tanaberetroIGN":
- From Donkey Kong Country Returns: Craig Harris (17 June 2010). "E3 2010: Kensuke Tanabe and the Metroid Palm Tree". IGN. IGN. Retrieved 18 June 2010.
- From Retro Studios: Harris, Craig (17 June 2010). "E3 2010: Kensuke Tanabe and the Metroid Palm Tree". IGN.com. IGN Entertainment. Retrieved 18 June 2010.
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Orphaned references in Donkey Kong Country (series)
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Reference named "Amazon.com":
- From High-definition video: "Amazon.com: Help > Digital Products > Amazon Video On Demand". Amazon.com. Retrieved 2009-10-16.
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- From Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest: "Donkey Kong Country 2 at Amazon.com". Amazon.com. Retrieved 2009-09-25.
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Merge to Donkey Kong
[edit]This article is chock-full of original research. Truth is that I'm finding few sources that discuss DKC as a separate series... it looks like someone just split out out from Donkey Kong#Donkey Kong Country series without the sourcing to warrant it. It also led to a bunch of other conclusions, such as including the DKL games and DK64 as part of the "DKC" series when no sources affirm that. As of now, would be better to cover all of this within the context of the main series article, and only split out summary style when the sourcing warrants it. czar 19:32, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Czar: I'm in favor of this change. I think your evaluation of this article is correct. How would I handle starting the appropriate discussion? E to the Pi times i (talk | contribs) 19:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- @E to the Pi times i, this is the first response in over a year, so I wouldn't consider this controversial. Merge any necessary material if you have time and then we'd just redirect. czar 20:26, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, I think I may put a hold on combining. It will be more efficient to combine things after I've finished working on the DKC trilogy articles, since I will have collected reliable sources into distilled information about each game. E to the Pi times i (talk | contribs) 21:20, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- @E to the Pi times i, this is the first response in over a year, so I wouldn't consider this controversial. Merge any necessary material if you have time and then we'd just redirect. czar 20:26, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Two people is no consensus to merge anything (especially over one year after proposing it with no response). This needs to opened up much further and a lot more discussion with more people before anything can be done without possible reconsideration or edit wars over the issue.217.43.203.61 (talk) 21:49, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- The concern is notability. Czar said
"I'm finding few sources that discuss DKC as a separate series..."
and"[it] would be better to cover all of this within the context of the main series article, and only split out summary style when the sourcing warrants it."
Wikipedia:Notability saysIf a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.
From my reading of czar's research and my personal research, the DKC series may not merit a separate article from the DK series because it's not covered significantly as an independent entity in reliable sources. If you have reliable sources which cover the DKC series as a separate entity, you are welcome to add them, but otherwise redirection may be this article's future. I am not opposed to having an AfD in the future.
- No response for a year can be taken as a sign either that nobody cares or has good, reliable source supported arguments for keeping the article. I suspect the former. Regardless, I am not taking any action in the near future. E to the Pi times i (talk | contribs) 03:25, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Reopening this conversation. Does anyone have any sources that indicate that DKC is treated as a separate and distinct series from DK? Apart from sharing the same titles and cast of characters, I don't see why this should be treated any differently than sequels within the main DK series. czar 22:31, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Czar: The official website for Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze refers to the game as "the latest installment in the Donkey Kong Country series." Additionally, executive producer of Donkey Kong Country Returns and Tropical Freeze, Kensuke Tanabe, has referred to it as a "series" in multiple interviews. Toadster101 (talk) 19:05, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- But do those mentions indicate that DKC is treated as a separate/distinct series from DK? We judge independent notability on whether a topic has significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. What sources show depth into the distinction of DKC or the distinction between DKC and DK in general? If not significant, would still make sense to cover summary style within the respective section of the parent DK series article. czar 10:37, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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Donkey Kong 64's relation to the series
[edit]From my understanding, Donkey Kong 64 is not part of the Donkey Kong Country series. I have made my argument for removing it from the page here. If you are planning to revert, please discuss before reverting. --E to the Pi times i (talk) 19:58, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- (Much later comment) the essay I originally linked to support this is my own original research. This issue is discussed more legitimately here. eπi (talk | contribs) 16:56, 18 April 2019 (UTC)