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"Disney-Reliance merger nears completion, Jio Star set to launch". The Economic Times. 2024-11-13. Retrieved 2024-11-19.

On 19 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to JioStar. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Channels section restored

I restored the Channels section to the article (diff). It was previously removed with the edit summary "minus promo" (diff), but the lists are not promotional in tone, and consist entirely of blue-links to highly relevant Wikipedia articles that are directly related to this topic. The lists also function as a valid navigational aid as per WP:LISTPURP. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:51, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How to promote advertising...

By the way: the channels are also mentioned in a navigation template. The Banner talk 14:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

About Star Movies Hindi/Tamil channel

how did you got the info source? TanjiroDemonSlayer (talk) 05:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

request for a name change

hey guys, please change this Wikipedia page title to " Disney Star" as just published by the company ( Formerly Star India ) Suryansh Wiki (talk) 10:09, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Star Life" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Star Life has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 28 § Star Life until a consensus is reached. John123521 (Talk-Contib.) 08:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add channels of Viacom 18

I think we should add channels from Viacom 18 too. Ramsoni322 (talk) 15:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move the page to JioStar

JioStar is the name used as title on official website. Jio has long history of naming it's product without any space like JioCinema JioSaavan, JioTV, JioChat and many more. you can check the full list at Jio Wikipedia page. Abdullateefsherani (talk) 07:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First, you will need to read the message on your talk page as it relates to WP:COI. As far as the move, we go by what sources say. Funny how the company mentions the creation of its own Wikipedia page here, but it is also stated as Jio Star, not JioStar. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:58, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move this page to JioStar

I tried to move Disney Star page to JioStar page, but Wiki didn't allow it, reason given that this page already exists. Hence, had to move to a this page, someone with more rights may try. Indedits (talk) 08:58, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JioStar is a redirect, so you can't move to it. You can ask an administrator to do it for you at requested technical moves. Nyakase (talk ) 09:07, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move the page to JioStar.

Someone again moved the page to Disney Star, with is the old name. Please move the page back to JioStar. AngadSingh2004 (talk) 02:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Read the section above - moving this without consensus or sources is disruptive. Ravensfire (talk) 02:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you dumb or something. There is a complete press release about the merger and the reanming of the company. And there even interview of company's vice chairman with Bloomberg with it is clearly mentioned it is JioStar now, do check that out. And here is link to the press release on the official new website of JioStar: https://www.jiostar.com/pdf/14112024-JV.pdf

Check or gathered some information before you do anything stupid or claim false allegations. AngadSingh2004 (talk) 03:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The word is "dumb," not "dum" so I will pose the same question to you. Stop your disruption with these pages. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AngadSingh2004 stop the personal attacks and calmly discuss this with actual reliable, secondary sources supporting this. That's ALL that's being asked here and you're insulting people, forcing your way and basically trying to bully other editors. That doesn't work well. Do what's been asked of you here. This feels like something that you should be able to produce a good news source. Ravensfire (talk) 04:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Follow the instructions at WP:RSPM and open a Requested Moves discussion. There have been too many page moves for it recently to be considered as uncontroversial action. – robertsky (talk) 02:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 19 November 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. There is consensus not to move this at this point in time. No prejudice against a follow up RM in the future if the situation becomes more clear. Some editors also pointed out that this article may be retired and a new separate article be created for the new venture as is sometimes done to separate the history of companies. (closed by non-admin page mover) Raladic (talk) 01:46, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disney Star → JioStar – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. AngadSingh2004 (talk) 09:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 19:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

— AngadSingh2004 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

@AngadSingh2004 looks like you forgot to include a rationale for why the page should be moved (arguments based on points found in WP:Article Titles policy) RachelTensions (talk) 10:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move to JioStar, support move to Star India and support retaining current title. The company is named Star India Private Limited. "Star India" is a well-recognised and unambiguous name. The name "JioStar" has not yet been referenced officially so I don't think WP:NAMECHANGES applies. The only official use of the name is the website - jiostar.com. Even references by other sources are limited to mentioning the website. So the WP:COMMONNAME would then be either "Disney Star" or "Star India". Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 12:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EGq9Dd2igjc AngadSingh2004 (talk) 14:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JioStar https://g.co/kgs/Bdy3wLm AngadSingh2004 (talk) 14:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not good sources to prove otherwise. We are the Great (talk) 14:36, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For citing the rename, there are multiple (reliable) sources available, even though the youtube video could be considered one given it is published by Bloomberg, see WP:RSP#Bloomberg. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 05:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I am saying. AngadSingh2004 (talk) 09:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now: Wait till the name comes into usage, and becomes the WP:COMMONNAME. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 03:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Support~~ Oppose for now (delay renaming for a two weeks at least): Disney star itself is not a common name within most people, most of whom just know the platforms owned by them. The community within which it could be a commonname would be the investors and related ones, in which there would be a rapid dissemination of the information of renaming, especially for those concerned, and then this article will lose its perceived credibility for being 'old', 'not updated' and factually erroneous.

ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 05:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose There's no reason to rush to change this, and no reason to believe the proposed name is the WP:COMMONNAME; not sure the official name has even been announced by the company yet. RachelTensions (talk) 11:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello JioStar is a name officially confirmed by the media and the official website https://jiostar.com

However, as far as my knowledge JioStar is a joint venture created by Jio's Viacom 18 and Disney Star. Aastiksharma17 (talk) 08:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
JioStar is a joint venture created by Jio's Viacom 18 and Disney Star.
If that's the case and "JioStar" is a joint venture between Viacom18 and Disney Star then a whole new article should be created for it (if notable), or a blurb about the joint venture be included on each of the parent's respective articles.
Rushing to change the name of this article before we've even established the basis of what the new company is seems unnecessary. RachelTensions (talk) 16:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely AngadSingh2004 (talk) 09:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now We should wait untill official announcement and reliable sources publish the news about it.

Coolduckbird (talk) 07:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

https://x.com/starindia/status/1859614346449670295?t=_WaIdaWEwrbWJZyGlQbeIQ&s=19

https://x.com/viacom18/status/1859618614875390402?t=Q2_Qhtyfaah0yn7kzBHhrg&s=19

You can clearly see the use of JioStar as the company name. AngadSingh2004 (talk) 08:31, 24 November 2024 (UTC)— AngadSingh2004 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Since conditions are met according to WP:NAMECHANGES, I support renaming, considering enough reliable sources are available. Although WP:SOCIALMEDIA is allowed, please try to support with secondary sources.

Alternatively, since Viacom 18 and Disney Star have merged to form joint venture, both the articles could be retired and a new article named JioStar could be created too. Coolduckbird (talk) 09:31, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A new article could be created, but the registed company is still Star India Private Limited and Viacom18 still exists which hold the shares of JioStar/JV/'Star India Private Limited'so it is best to rename this article to JioStar form Disney Star (at was registered as 'Star India Private Limited' during its name as 'Disney Star') as Viacom18 page has been updated with the required information. AngadSingh2004 (talk) 10:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe they'll soon re-register with a new name... Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 13:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I missed it, but what independent reliable sources have been identified? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:29, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found a few sources [1][2][3][4][5], but we should not rush to change this article's name. Notability must be considered. Coolduckbird (talk) 06:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't care whether or not this article/talk page is moved, I just ask that if it is moved, please, page movers, leave a redirect when you move the article AND the article talk page. I just restored 18 redirect pages that were deleted as broken redirects because a redirect wasn't left the last time this talk page was moved. Please do not create dozens of broken redirects in the future by leaving a redirect behind if you move an article, both for the article and for the article talk page. I'm not sure why so many page movers don't do this because it just leaves broken redirects behind that either must be deleted or fixed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:03, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
page movers... and admins... – robertsky (talk) 19:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is some kind of default behavior that does not create a redirect for the Talk page when an article and its Talk page are moved together (at least under some circumstances). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Only when unchecking the create redirect option if I am not mistaken. – robertsky (talk) 06:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I confirm that. Looking back at my own edit history, I notice one set of circumstances that leads to this phenomenon, which is a round-robin move. When one of the Talk pages doesn't already exist, the Talk page title that formerly existed ends up being simply deleted when the titles are swapped. I don't know whether the script-based method of doing round-robin moves prevents that. I have only done a few round-robin moves, and I've done them manually. The instructions at WP:ROUNDROBIN do contain a sub-bullet of instructions about this, but not to a degree that I had fully understood and appreciated. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a known bug in the software that means that auto-deletion of talk pages simply does not work. How this affects these scripts I do not know, but it can badly affect the RM bots that post and remove talk page messages. Andrewa (talk) 20:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Relisting as there is still ongoing discussion of whether WP:NAMECHANGE is satisfied or if its too soon yet. Raladic (talk) 19:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I don't believe this name was existed as the sucessor of Disney Star. I rather see it as a separated company just like how Warner Bros. Discovery does, so creating the separate article is more necessary. Additionally, there's no rationale move for this article. 103.111.100.82 (talk) 05:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: On the website jiostar.com, at the very bottom, they still use © 2024 Star India Private Limited. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 17:42, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

First sentence & infobox

In the last few weeks there has been several flip-flops of how the company name appears in the first sentence. Rather than continue with this mess, we must come to a consensus on how the first sentence should appear.

Over the last few weeks, the name of the company in the first sentence has 43 times:

First sentence change history

Disney Star → Star India [6]
Star India → Disney Star [7]
Disney Star → Star India [8]
Star India → Jio Star [9]
Jio Star → Disney Star [10]
Disney Star → Jio Star [11]
Jio Star → Star India private limited (SIPL) [12]
Star India private limited (SIPL) → Jiostar [13]
Jiostar → JioStar [14]
JioStar → Jio Star [15]
Jio Star → JioStar [16]
JioStar → Star India Private Limited [17]
Star India Private Limited → Disney Star [18]
Disney Star → JioStar [19]
JioStar → Disney Star [20]
Disney Star →Jio Star, registered as, Star India Private Limited [21]
Jio Star, registered as, Star India Private Limited → Star India Private Limited [22]
Star India Private Limited → JioStar [23]
JioStar → Jio Star [24]
Jio Star → JioStar [25]
JioStar → DisneyStar [26]
DisneyStar → Jiostar [27]
Jiostar → JioStar [28]
JioStar → JioStar, registered as (Star India Private Limited) [29]
JioStar, registered as (Star India Private Limited) → Star India Private Limited [30]
Star India Private Limited → JioStar, also known as Star India Private Limited [31]
JioStar, also known as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, formerly known as Star India Private Limited [32]
JioStar, formerly known as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, d/b/a Star India Private Limited [33]
JioStar, d/b/a Star India Private Limited → JioStar, i.e., Star India Private Limited [34]
JioStar, i.e., Star India Private Limited → JioStar, registered as Star India Private Limited [35]
JioStar, registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, previously Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited [36]
JioStar, previously Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, registered as Star India Private Limited [37]
JioStar, registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, previously Star TV, Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited [38]
JioStar, previously Star TV, Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, registered as Star India Private Limited [39]
JioStar, registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, previously Star TV, Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited [40]
JioStar, previously Star TV, Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, formerly Star TV, Star India, and Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited [41]
JioStar, formerly Star TV, Star India, and Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, formerly known as (Star TV, Star India, and Disney Star) registered as Star India Private Limited [42]
JioStar, formerly known as (Star TV, Star India, and Disney Star) registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar (formerly known as Star TV, Star India, and now doing business as Disney Star), registered as Star India Private Limited [43]
JioStar (formerly known as Star TV, Star India, and now doing business as Disney Star), registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar (formerly known as Star TV, Star India, and Disney Star), registered as Star India Private Limited [44]
JioStar (formerly known as Star TV, Star India, and Disney Star), registered as Star India Private Limited → JioStar, registered as Star India Private Limited [45]
JioStar, registered as Star India Private Limited → Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited [46]
Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited → jio star, registered as Star India Private Limited [47]
jio star, registered as Star India Private Limited → Disney Star, registered as Star India Private Limited [48]

In the infobox, the "name" field has also changed a similar amount of times. Other contentious infobox fields that keep changing are the company logo, the "traded as" field, the "former name" field, and the "successor" field.

Instead of continuing these shenanigans, can we please have a discussion and come to a consensus about how exactly the first sentence of this article should be worded, as well as what exactly should appear in the infobox fields. RachelTensions (talk) 22:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: "JioStar, registered as Star India Private Limited" Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 03:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: First sentence should mention JioStar, registered as Star India Pvt Ltd, as this is the current name. The solution can be the that the page of JioStar should have current version and Disney Star page should have older version of September, with some corrections, if required. Or Disney Star page can be removed and redirect to JioStar page as the company was always Star India Private Limited, Disney branded it as Disney Star, but it's registered name remained Star India, now assets of Viacom18 have been merged into the same company, Star India. And the new leadership has branded Star India as JioStar. Indedits (talk) 03:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose any name change at the moment. Not sure what you mean by consensus as consensus was already gained through the RfC in the previous section last month. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose what? This isn’t proposing any article moves. This is specifically asking how the content of the article should be worded given there has been a very large amount of changes. RachelTensions (talk) 19:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose ANY name change whatsoever as consensus has already made the determination of how the title should be in the first sentence. Let me know if I should clarify further. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Where/how do you propose the corporate entity now apparently known as "JioStar" be included, and at what location? Do you think this article should be solely on Disney Star, with the JioStar joint venture being spun off into its own article? RachelTensions (talk) 21:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It already is included in the history section. Maybe once SOCKs, UPEs and others stop attempting to rebrand the company on its behalf, I will be of mind to opine further. Until then, consensus has been made so my opinion is irrelevant. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]