Talk:Detective Pikachu (video game)
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Reverting title of page
[edit]Since the game has only been released in Japan and as the other articles retain the Japanese title, could we dismiss using the English title until the game is officially announced by Nintendo. Thank you! Zacharyalejandro (talk) 22:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- That's not how this works. Every one of our English-language reliable sources refers to the game as "Great Detective Pikachu", which makes for its common name. This is the English Wikipedia—we prefer English-language sources when available, and we prefer using the name that those sources use. czar 04:20, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well someone needs to quit changing the name causing a redirect, I would like it to stop. Either use the Japanese name, or keep the English title as the page name! Zacharyalejandro (talk) 18:31, 4 May 2016 (UTC)Zacharyalejandro
- Common name should really apply to only official English-licensed names (for example, manga and light novels with lengthy names will be referred to by its shorthand name provided it is licensed with that name). Great Detective Pikachu is, for all intents and purposes, still just a fan name until the game is actually confirmed for an English release. Gaming article sites only use English names for the sake of convenience. Wonchop (talk) 09:55, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
- The entire point of COMMONNAME is that we should use the most commonly used name in English-language regardless of its official status. I definitely support "Great Detective Pikachu".--IDVtalk 10:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
- It still needs some official basis. It's why we can't just call the Toei series of Yu-Gi-Oh! "Yu-Gi-Oh! Season Zero" despite everyone else calling it that. Frankly the whole COMMONNAME thing needs a good looking at since Gyakuten Kenji 2 has been moved to Ace Attorney Investigations 2 despite having no official English release and Mother (video game) retaining its Japanese title despite being officially released as EarthBound Beginnings.Wonchop (talk) 10:17, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- See comment below. If the English press calls it by an English name all the time (like Valkyria Chronicles III, for example) then its correct to use the English name. That's why we use Ace Attorney Investigations 2. Sergecross73 msg me 13:46, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- It still needs some official basis. It's why we can't just call the Toei series of Yu-Gi-Oh! "Yu-Gi-Oh! Season Zero" despite everyone else calling it that. Frankly the whole COMMONNAME thing needs a good looking at since Gyakuten Kenji 2 has been moved to Ace Attorney Investigations 2 despite having no official English release and Mother (video game) retaining its Japanese title despite being officially released as EarthBound Beginnings.Wonchop (talk) 10:17, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- The entire point of COMMONNAME is that we should use the most commonly used name in English-language regardless of its official status. I definitely support "Great Detective Pikachu".--IDVtalk 10:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
- This is a very clear cut case of WP:COMMONNAME and WP:USEENGLISH. Following those two in conjunction, Great Detective Pikachu is definitely the option to use. Sergecross73 msg me 13:46, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- While I do understand your point, @Wonchop:, we tend not to use official titles just because they are official. That's exactly what WP:COMMONNAME is about. Currently, WP:VG's reliable sources use Great Detective Pikachu. And as such, we should too. If reliable sources will start calling it differently, so shall we. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 13:51, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- On a sidenote, if reliable sources reported on fans petitioning Danny DeVito to voice Pikachu, that too is a reason for inclusion. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 13:53, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- For the record, I always prefer using the most commonly used name in English sources over whatever official titles are available. ~Mable (chat) 21:53, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- On a sidenote, if reliable sources reported on fans petitioning Danny DeVito to voice Pikachu, that too is a reason for inclusion. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 13:53, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- While I do understand your point, @Wonchop:, we tend not to use official titles just because they are official. That's exactly what WP:COMMONNAME is about. Currently, WP:VG's reliable sources use Great Detective Pikachu. And as such, we should too. If reliable sources will start calling it differently, so shall we. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 13:51, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that it should be Great Detective Pikachu for now, but what happens if it's officially localized and released under a different name, which all the RS then begin to pick up? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:10, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- We would change it when all the RS's pick it up since unless it's something like the original Morher which was only officially released in English 25 years later it's unlikely that the official English title won't become more common after release..--174.91.187.80 (talk) 01:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, and most of the time, especially with a title like this, every video game website under the sun is going to run a story about it being localized, so chances are, it'll warrant a change pretty much right away... Sergecross73 msg me 13:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Well after being known as Mother for 25 years, I think that's a special case. If this is released in English under a different name, say next week, would people even remember the unofficial name (this one) in 5 years? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 22:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- I can't imagine anyone comparing this with the first Mother situation if it is announced next week.--174.91.187.80 (talk) 04:27, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- We would change it when all the RS's pick it up since unless it's something like the original Morher which was only officially released in English 25 years later it's unlikely that the official English title won't become more common after release..--174.91.187.80 (talk) 01:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Just a heads up, this game's now officially going to be released in English as Detective Pikachu, so whatever magic you need to work to correct the article name, do that.Wonchop (talk) 15:25, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
English cover of Detective Pikachu
[edit]Can we please put a stop to all the edit warring with the English covers? It's a fact that the NA cover isn't showing up. Get over it, please. Stop reverting when the EU cover image, which DOES show up, works just fine. MizukaS (talk) 16:30, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- What do you mean, it isn't showing up?--Alexandra IDVtalk 19:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- This is what I'm seeing. MizukaS (talk) 00:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- You have an old cache saved, try pressing ctrl+f5.--Alexandra IDVtalk 10:48, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- This is what I'm seeing. MizukaS (talk) 00:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- The lower quality image that was unnecessarily added had its poor fair-use rationale upgraded. Since it now meets the bare minimum guidelines, there is no longer an issue. « Ryūkotsusei » 02:33, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Japanese release date
[edit]The digital version released in Japan in 2016 only has the first chapter of the game. The game that is coming out now, March 2018, isn't simply a western release of the 2016 game, but an expanded version with more content, as the article says. What the article currently doesn't make clear is that the two releases are different and that the expanded one is also coming out in Japan. The article currently gives the impression that the 2016 game is the same as the 2018 one, particularly when stating the release dates. Whatever102030 (talk) 15:09, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- I actually did differentiate this in the article header when the worldwide release was announced and I got my facts straight back in January, but it was recently cut for simplicity, for reasons I don't fully understand but won't argue against. Guess it's just best to see what some others think, whether it's worth making the header slightly more cluttered, or just putting it all in the Development section. Or neither. GloverMist (talk) 15:18, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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