Talk:Counter (digital)

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Web Counter

Why is this on this page? This should be moved to a disambiguation page or something, it certainly isn't relevant.

Please sign yourself like everybody does. No reference to web counters appears on this page. However, since they are counters, they should probably appear in the article.

ICE77 (talk) 05:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree and I believe it's time to make the move, and I hereby make the following: #Requested move 9 March 2015 <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 02:03, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ripple Counter Diagrams

The ripple counter section talks exclusively about D-type flip flops, but the diagram has JK-type flip flops, if the diagram were a D-type flip flop, it may make more sense for the section. 152.2.88.109 (talk) 14:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I remember once reading about a kind of counter that, instead of counting in a normal positional numeral system, used some sort of alternate representation where the successor of any number always differs from it by only one digit. (As opposed to, say, 0999 and 1000 in decimal, which differ from each other in all four digits.) Unfortunately, I can't remember what it was called. Maybe some information could be added here? -- Milo

Nevermind. What I was thinking about was Gray code, which according to that article is primarily used for applications other than counting. -- Milo

You are truly right D flip picture should be added other wise it would be difficult for users to adapt the idea. - Jamistan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamistan (talk • contribs) 14:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Johnson and Decade counters

Can someone indicate why these were deleted? I'm restoring them for now, if you feel it's appropriate to delete them again, please let us know why on this page, just so we know. Thanks. B.Mearns ^*, KSC 12:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just a thought, why are Johnson and Rizie counters called so? Are there any major differences, or are the terms used interchangeably? Xcentaur 19:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dunno... The decade counter desc. is technically incorrect.. decade counters count from 0 to 10, but in binary. They only go through each output if they're a decoded decade counter, so... that's all kinds of wrong.

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Fernblatt (talk) 02:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Counter working in both directions

Is it possible to make a counter work in both directions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.240.254.224 (talk) 12:06, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, counters that work in both directions are called up/down counters. A control signal is used to activate the part of the counter that counts up and the one that counts down. Please sign yourself like everybody does.

ICE77 (talk) 05:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Binary and cascade counters

Since decimal counters are listed, binary should be listed as well. Cascade counters are listed but no explanation is given (no section is dedicated to them).

ICE77 (talk) 05:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How does the last counter of the page work?

I have some trouble understanding how the last counter pictured (with two white wheels and notched disks in between) works, even when looking at the other pictures of the same series. For instance, taking two wheels, which I call the left and right one (I am intentionally not calling them tens and units), the right wheel has a ratchet wheel on its left and the left wheel has a bump on its right. The bump is presumably for the carry, but I do not understand why the bump is on the left wheel. Shouldn't it be on the right one? Or is this counter counting from left to right? Assuming this is the case, and considering that the metal disks are located at fixed positions, because of the grooved rods, when the left wheel turns, and the left wheel is not on 9, then the bump does not push on the cut out metal strip and therefore does not act on the right wheel (but see below). But when the left wheel is on 9, then the metal strip acts on the ratched wheel and adds one to that wheel.

Apart from the strange left-to-right adding, I do not see how the metal strip can act on the wheel to the right, except if something were fixed on top of the metal strip. But I can't see such a thing. I would therefore appreciate it if there was a more detailed explanation of that counter. Is there a patent for it?Roegel (talk) 21:52, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 March 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved: Counter → Counter (digital); Counter (disambiguation) → Counter. EdJohnston (talk) 00:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Counter → Counter (digital) – Many other meanings of Counter exist, so no reason for the digital circuit meaning to be primary. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 02:03, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment this is a malformed multimove; it is missing the half for moving the disambiguationpage. -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 05:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support the most likely primary topic is countertop; Move the disambiguation page to this location.-- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 05:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – and move Counter (disambiguation) to Counter. Dicklyon (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but... the mechanical counters section should be then split into Mechanical counter stub article. The mechanical counters are definitely not digital counters. Z22 (talk) 05:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – and move Counter (disambiguation) to Counter. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support and move Counter (disambiguation) over Counter. Consider WP:SYSTEMICBIAS. Also, the dab needs some cleanup; many partial title matches there. Ivanvector (talk) 18:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, maybe Counter (electronics), there are things in an abacus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.162.73 (talk) 20:43, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is also a parallel discussion on what to do with Mechanical counter redirect that currently points to the Mechanical counters section of this page. See here Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 9#Mechanical counter, especially if this page is moved to have focus on digital/electronics. Z22 (talk) 00:19, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- It already focuses on electronic ones. It has done so since mid-2007, and even before then, the content of the article was the electronic ones. The mechanical section was an afterthought someone added after the article was focused on electronic ones. Changing the intro to talk about digital counters instead of electronic counters, would cover mechanical counters, since counters by definition are always digital, whether mechanical or electronic, since they "count". -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 02:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. CookieMonster755 (talk) 00:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - obviously the Pokémon move is primary. ... okay. I guess we'll put the DAB page as primary for now, even though countertop could/should be it. Great job by the nominator to notice this. Red Slash 01:44, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. No primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:16, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Split mechanical counter section

The Mechanical counter in itself is notable and it should have its own article. The current content can be a good stub for the new page. Some editors who discussed about the mechanical counter redirect (this discussion) also have similar idea. Z22 (talk) 01:00, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Then we'd need to rename the article again, since "digital counters" are all "counters" that 'count'. The nominal scope of this article are counters that are digital devices, that would be electronic and mechanical counters. If you remove counter (mechanical), then the rump article would need to move to counter (electronic) or electronic counter as digital counter/counter (digital) would no longer describe the scope of the remaining article. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rather, this should be the base article, and each class of counter can have a subarticle, thus there would be no splitting, rather a new article is created as a subarticle. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:01, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I started the Mechanical counter article. I would leave counter (digital), with a main tag from its mechanical section.--agr (talk) 09:56, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]